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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Elano on February 15, 2008, 07:33:51 AM
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A man killed six people in a Northern Illinois University.
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I am presuming that once again no one was appointed to have a concealed carry permit, if so they could have taken out the person before he could complete his rampage. Also go to prozacs own website and read their own health insert, you will find that in many cases these shooters were on 4 different psychotrophic drugs and what sometimes happens as a result of this consumption, is the person literally flips out, these serotonin reuptake inhibitors interfere with the minds brave waves, that is after all how they work but by doing so, the person can just literally flip out. The final quick point I wanted to make on this issue though, is society is falling apart, poverty and uncertainty threatens to explode beyond any control, even the elites are scared about the bubble which they have helped to create and so as a result, people are going to need their arms. Thanks to the mass hysteria that followed the dun blane tragedy, this right was taken away from us here in the UK, but lets not get this twisted, these incidents always lead to a concerted campaign and effort for "more control" but incrementally they are trying to demonise guns to the point where they can seduce the average person into handing in their guns.
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OK,but why the schools ?
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There are not that many school shootings it's just when they do occur, the media spotlight is shone upon them. As a former local editor once said to me when we were talking about news and the headlines they carry, he said to me if something occurs continuously, there is no reason for to carry the story, we like the type of incidents which are different and don't occur very often.
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Still talking the conspiracy theories, eh?
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What outlandish "conspiracy theories" would these be?
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Let me just summarise what i just said
A major culprit of people flipping out is psychotrophic drugs
No concealed carry permit means no one to take down the crazed fuck
A concerted effort to impose more gun control, well gee that's a surprise
The media covering the event because it's an event that doesn't happen often
A society falling apart
Yep you are right that's a conspiracy theory
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kids are crazy, parents arent doing their job.
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their lives probably suck to the degree where they feel like they got nothing to lose and the people they want to take it out are at school, quite simple and understandable really.
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I'm going to say something that might be kind of pathetic or scary, but hey...
I find it weird that there aren't much more of those shootings, to be perfectly honest with ya. I completely understand those guys. I mean, seriously, when you got nothing going for yourself and you get fucked up physically and verbally by those guys in school, with no support from either parents or anything else, why not going out shooting instead of going out glooming? Seriously. I can't even blame them. I never really say that, because it hate it when people use stuff like society/computer games/etc as an excuse, but in those cases, I am pretty sure that the people who did it would have been fairly normal if they had a much better life.
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Let me just summarise what i just said
A major culprit of people flipping out is psychotrophic drugs
No concealed carry permit means no one to take down the crazed fuck
A concerted effort to impose more gun control, well gee that's a surprise
The media covering the event because it's an event that doesn't happen often
A society falling apart
Yep you are right that's a conspiracy theory
Agreed. And to add to that, the Supreme Court is on the verge of possibly voting against the 2nd Amendment with a court case involving arms in the DC area. Is this just a coincidence? Maybe so...but if that's the case then call yourself a coincidence theorist.
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A man killed six people in a Northern Illinois University.
Excellent write up.
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Let me just summarise what i just said
A major culprit of people flipping out is psychotrophic drugs
No concealed carry permit means no one to take down the crazed fuck
A concerted effort to impose more gun control, well gee that's a surprise
The media covering the event because it's an event that doesn't happen often
A society falling apart
Yep you are right that's a conspiracy theory
Agreed. And to add to that, the Supreme Court is on the verge of possibly voting against the 2nd Amendment with a court case involving arms in the DC area. Is this just a coincidence? Maybe so...but if that's the case then call yourself a coincidence theorist.
Do you guys really think that, assuming the government was taken over by fascists tomorrow, they would give a shit about civilians with nothing but hunting rifles, shotguns, pistols, and an occasional civvie version of the AK-47 or AR-15? Do you really think that civilians ownership of guns is by itself a "check on tyranny" or whatever?
You do realize how full of holes that idea is, right? You do realize that a bunch of civilians with guns (even if it's a number as large as 80 million) does not constitute a guerilla army by itself?
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I'm going to say something that might be kind of pathetic or scary, but hey...
I find it weird that there aren't much more of those shootings, to be perfectly honest with ya. I completely understand those guys. I mean, seriously, when you got nothing going for yourself and you get fucked up physically and verbally by those guys in school, with no support from either parents or anything else, why not going out shooting instead of going out glooming? Seriously. I can't even blame them. I never really say that, because it hate it when people use stuff like society/computer games/etc as an excuse, but in those cases, I am pretty sure that the people who did it would have been fairly normal if they had a much better life.
Yeah, but 90% of the time, the dudes who do this kinda shit are narcissists who basically live life feeling sorry for themselves instead of trying to do something. I mean, it's understandable to me when middle school and high school kids get fed up and start bussin at their classmates for making fun of them, but college and grad school? People have matured by that age, so there isn't really much physical or verbal abuse in that environment. College is when you're supposed to leave your past behind; you're surrounded by people you've never met before (90% of the time...assuming you go to a school in an area other than where you lived). Even if you think high school and middle school sucked, you have the chance to start again, try new things, sleep with countless bitches, etc. If you're still living in the past, not taking advantage of the opportunities you've got...you're just fucking retarded.
That Cho Sung-Hui (or whatever) dude who shot up VA Tech is a perfect example. He used to get picked on from middle school to high school cause he spoke with a fucked-up accent. Fair enough, that sucks, might make me think of pulling triggers on crackers if I were in his position. But then he goes to college, his roommates are trying to get him out of his shell, and yet he still acts like a total psycho and isolates himself socially, unwilling to try new things or connect with anyone, and the few times he does talk to people, he's talking about having an imaginary girlfriend. And then he gets to senior year and he's still basically the same insecure person he was in high school, cause he was too fucking stupid to realize he had a chance to leave it all behind. I think the real reason he finally got to dumpin on the crackers isn't so much that anyone made fun of him (cause by all accounts, that ain't what happened to him at VA Tech); it's the fact that he realized how isolated he'd made himself the past four years. Once he realized that, he became totally pessimistic about his future and decided, "Ah, what the fuck...I 'll throw some hollowpoints at 'em."
So basically, I don't sympathize too much with those dudes who do this kinda shit. Especially when it's in college or grad school. If you're still acting like one of those gun fetishist loner Travis Bickle types when you're in your 20s, you've got nobody to blame but yourself.
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More fundamentally, people have a right to defend themselves, criminals can still acquire guns, people get killed because they have no means of defending themselves, or they get severely injured.
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More fundamentally, people have a right to defend themselves, criminals can still acquire guns, people get killed because they have no means of defending themselves, or they get severely injured.
Criminals have a more difficult time acquiring guns when there are stricter gun control laws. There are also other ways of defending yourself besides guns.
But, since you seem to think gun control is part of a government conspiracy, I assumed you believed so because it's part of a government attempt to control us. I am telling you that that is bullshit. Answer my question: Do you think governments (especially one with an army as well-funded and well-armed as the U.S. armed forces) are really afraid of citizens owning guns?
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Firstly in the UK where a total gun ban exists, gun crime is on the increase and secondly if someone breaks into your home, or more than one person even you should have that right to defend yourself whether it's a gun or a knife or whatever. Thirdly a government would never turn it's vision against a population when the nation has a population armed to the teeth, that is what historically gun control has been about, surrender your guns, you are no longer a potential or current threat.
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Firstly in the UK where a total gun ban exists, gun crime is on the increase and secondly if someone breaks into your home, or more than one person even you should have that right to defend yourself whether it's a gun or a knife or whatever.
First of all, I don't agree with what the British government did (struck me as knee-jerk reactionary shit). However, most of the "gun crimes" in the U.K. the past few years have been committed with fake guns (replicas, airsoft, toys of various kinds). That is hardly the same thing.
Second, the issue is...would people in America NEED guns to defend themselves if the criminals couldn't get ahold of guns? That is the big thing to consider.
Thirdly a government would never turn it's vision against a population when the nation has a population armed to the teeth, that is what historically gun control has been about, surrender your guns, you are no longer a potential or current threat.
I hear this argument all the time, and I don't buy it. See, NRA members in this country have a habit of saying, "We would still be ruled by the British if we didn't have guns!", but that is total bullshit. The colonists won because they had the backing of the French government (which paid something like 90% of their war bill and sent troops over for nearly every major operation). The same thing applies to any other guerilla movement throughout history. Simply having a population armed with guns isn't enough; you need training, organization, and a CONSTANT supply of arms and supplies from a government willing to puts its ass on the line for you. That is the biggest factor. There has never been a rebel group in history that was even remotely effective without the support of foreign governments. Think about it:
-The Viet Cong had the backing of the Chinese, Soviet, and North Vietnamese governments
-The PLO had the backing of all the Arab states as well as the Chinese and Soviets
-The Afghan Mujahideen had the backing of the American CIA and Pakistan
-Hezbollah has the backing of Iran and Syria
-The Provisional IRA had the backing of Libya
-The Northern Alliance finally kicked out the Taliban because of us
...need I go on? Well, OK, the exceptions to this rule are guerilla movements that have control over areas with valuable resources that can be traded for weapons...this is the case in Africa (where you have rebel groups like my own RUF, or UNITA) who take control of diamond-mining areas and sell the stones to arms dealers. Or, you may have groups like the FARC in Colombia who have a huge stake in the narcotics trade and can profit from that.
But you get the point. The American people are, first of all, hardly "armed to the teeth". Second, how would they form an effective guerilla movement? Who would support them? How would they organize? Do you expect them to actually try it? Guerillas are almost always recruited from the poorest of the poor, people who have no cushy lifestyle to go back to. You think the average cracker would decide to live life in the bush as long as they've got working AC and food on the table?
Shit, I think the single biggest problem is that most of the pro-gunners in America are willing to support the Bush administration, which you agree has been extremely detrimental to freedom in this country.
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RIP to all those kids. fucked up world we live in.
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simple white people are crazy...
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simple white people are crazy...
lol, thats kinda true. mostly all the shootings have been done by white males except for the Virginia tech one.
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shit, I never thought that I could agree with something Foday said :o
RIP to all those kids. fucked up world we live in.
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what's up with gun shooting in schools in usa? it's becoming a banal thing, people could have chose the gun control route but they chose to gun cult so that shit is banal now, cnn didn't mention it
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simple white people are crazy...
lol, thats kinda true. mostly all the shootings have been done by white males except for the Virginia tech one.
yup and notice how u wont see them blamin white rock n roll music......... nope............. its just another day for them
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simple white people are crazy...
lol, thats kinda true. mostly all the shootings have been done by white males except for the Virginia tech one.
yup and notice how u wont see them blamin white rock n roll music......... nope............. its just another day for them
true
gangster rap made them do it ::)
sagging is such a big problem but white kids going nuts with guns is nothing
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simple white people are crazy...
lol, thats kinda true. mostly all the shootings have been done by white males except for the Virginia tech one.
yup and notice how u wont see them blamin white rock n roll music......... nope............. its just another day for them
That's not true. Marilyn Manson got blamed for the Columbine shit.
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simple white people are crazy...
lol, thats kinda true. mostly all the shootings have been done by white males except for the Virginia tech one.
yup and notice how u wont see them blamin white rock n roll music......... nope............. its just another day for them
That's not true. Marilyn Manson got blamed for the Columbine shit.
you know what eye mean..... they will sit there and attack hip hop ..... all day..... its nothing compared to what they did with rock n roll satanic music... they kind of just let it slide
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^Well young blacks kill a lot more people casually, so...
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^Well young blacks kill a lot more people casually, so...
thats true. but its not casually, theres usually beef. these white males that run into their schools with guns kill innocent women and men for no reason. a black male in the ghetto isnt going kill someone because they were an outcast.
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^Well young blacks kill a lot more people casually, so...
thats true. but its not casually, theres usually beef. these white males that run into their schools with guns kill innocent women and men for no reason. a black male in the ghetto isnt going kill someone because they were an outcast.
So what? Killing just to get a rep or because of some immature beef, pocket change etc is also retarded. LOL@it being considered cool to shoot someone cause he's got a red tshirt when those things are actually retarded as fuck.
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^Well young blacks kill a lot more people casually, so...
thats true. but its not casually, theres usually beef. these white males that run into their schools with guns kill innocent women and men for no reason. a black male in the ghetto isnt going kill someone because they were an outcast.
So what? Killing just to get a rep or because of some immature beef, pocket change etc is also retarded. LOL@it being considered cool to shoot someone cause he's got a red tshirt when those things are actually retarded as fuck.
i agree with you, to me and you it seems stupid, but to them its what they grew up with and it means life or death.