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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: pootypooty on March 12, 2008, 11:24:23 AM
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From hitsdailydouble.com:
ROSS IS BOSS
IDJ Rapper, Now 27, Snoop Dogg Battle It Out for Top Spot
March 12, 2008
South Beach rapper Rick Ross is ready to take his spring break…at the top of the charts.
The IDJ hip-hop star follows up his hit 2006 debut Port of Miami with Trilla, which appears the odds-on favorite to debut at #1 on next week’s HITS Album sales chart.
Based on one-day sales reports from those retailers not hightailing to Austin for SxSW, and even some that are, the gangsta hip-hopper looks set for between 165-175k in first-week sales.
Now 27, the latest edition of the long-running hits compilation series, comes out through John Ingrassia’s SBMG Commercial Music Group, is running just behind Ross with 160-170k, and could challenge for the top spot yet.
Behind the two leaders is Geffen’s perennial Snoop Dogg, whose new album Ego Trippin’ is a lock for #3 with what appears around 130k in sales.
Terror Squad/Capitol rap vet Fat Joe’s The Elephant in the Room cannot be ignored. It looks to be in the 50k range, which will be good enough for a Top 10, maybe even a Top 5, bow.
Sony’s Now ‘80s, a variation on the formula, now looks like it could sell around 40k, which would put it within sniffing distance of the Top 10 these days.
Concord’s Randy Jackson album, Randy Jackson’s Music Club, Vol. 1, seems to be headed for the 15-20k range, but could go higher with some expected on-air Idol mentions.
The market was down 3% vs. last week, down 11% vs. same week last year and now down 12% year-to-date.
Hey, it could be worse. You could be Eliot Spitzer. Or Client 9, for that matter.
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lol @ rick ross selling more than snoopy...
nowadays people don't recognize what good music is.
it's a shame
ego trippin is the shit! buy it!
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7624174
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^^well i'm not surprise that Rick Ross is out selling Snoop..U just have to check his album out and know why..
His style is very much different, plus it's what is reigning or what's 'Hot' right now..
Not saying nothing bad about Snoop's album, cuz i'm more of a snoop fan than i am of Rick Ross..just saying it like it is...
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^^^I heard rick ross' album... it's just another hip hop record for me.
garbage in my opinion
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It's not just a shame it's fuckin insane Snoop doesn't sell more than Rick Ross. Big Snoopy is coming with a fresh breeze, Ross on the other hand be coming with that same ol same ol.. He's just fooling these youngstas (or whoever is buying his album), style ain't hot, that shit been done too many times! Support the West buy Ego Trippin instead!
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no fuckin way ross is gonna outsell snoop 1st week or beyond..mark my words
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130k first week, WTF? I was thinking AT LEAST 200k!!!
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Snoopy only dropped yesterday. His numbers will most certainly be higher than Ross by next week. if not, then... :'(
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if true, then that's pathetic
if he sells 130k he won't ever see gold, even with one of the biggest tracks of his life
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^he'll certainly go gold
Plies sold like 90K first week and he's about to hit gold
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this is sales only for one day
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snoop wil sell 260k
mark my words
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snoop wil sell 260k
mark my words
:) hopefully he will sell more than rick ross, but i dont know. The last times he realeased in november- dec , people usely buy more cds couse of cristmas and such .. march is a more dead month, i hope snooop sell okay first week . I think he will sell the same like janet jackson
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That rick ross cd was straight garbage to me. I hope that Snoop outsells that bullshit.
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??? does soundscan also count amazon sales and mp3 album sales??
snoop dogg is number one in hiphop with 34 on amazon bestsellers in music
and he is number 10 in mp3 albums on amazon
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snoop wil sell 260k
mark my words
:) hopefully he will sell more than rick ross, but i dont know. The last times he realeased in november- dec , people usely buy more cds couse of cristmas and such .. march is a more dead month, i hope snooop sell okay first week . I think he will sell the same like janet jackson
peope got more money to spend in march than in december because of the holidays...
let's wait for a week and we will find out :)
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That rick ross cd was straight garbage to me. I hope that Snoop outsells that bullshit.
seriously. that shit was pretty awful :-\
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is tha album that bad^^ ??? ??? ???
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is tha album that bad^^ ??? ??? ???
5.5/10 IMO..and I am usually a very friendly rater ;)
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^^Whoa!!!..i'd figured his album would be you know..'hot'.. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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^2 many songs sound the same..and he cut some great records and put on some really sub par ones..god only knows why
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Well Rick Ross is backed by Jay Z so what did yall expect!
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Well Rick Ross is backed by Jay Z so what did yall expect!
but ross doesn't even have a single doin anythin decent out :-\
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If Rick Ross outsells Snoop Im never buying a new age hiphop cd AGAIN! that shit is weak, what the fuck are people listening to nowadays? Rick Ross is the type of artist that I would only download his singles, and even after a week, they sound played out. Wow, he figured out how to rhyme Ross with Boss and spit that same shit a million times on his new album over the same beats. Fuck that shit! If anyone is going to buy a Snoop Dogg album, Ego Trippin should be the ONE!
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Well Rick Ross is backed by Jay Z so what did yall expect!
but ross doesn't even have a single doin anythin decent out :-\
think he means they are buying their own shit.....cause i havent heard any noise anywhere about Rick Ross its a bit fishy....
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but Jay-z isn't even head of def jam anymore fellas :-\
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Thats bullshit...if rick ross outsell snoop something gotta be wrong...def jam probably doin some foul shit ..
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i hope the best for snoop but i dont think "ego trippin" will sell more than "tha blue carpet treatment" if these numbers are right . Snoops "sensual seduction" campain have failed . but i hope the best :)
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Don't worry, Snoop gonna go Plat, not Rick Ross.
Trust me.
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thought it do at least 200k :-\
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is tha album that bad^^ ??? ??? ???
Yah man, all the songs he released before it came out were all the decent ones, the rest of the songs on the album are trash, they all sound the same, not worth downloading at all lol!!!
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the South really supporting their artists if Ross sells that much with his coke raps :-\
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^thats not even that much (ross) seems just that snoop ain't sellin at all..130K? wtf?
it'll go up..thats just an estimate after 1 day..
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lol @ rick ross selling more than snoopy...
nowadays people don't recognize what good music is.
it's a shame
ego trippin is the shit! buy it!
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7624174
I guess it hurts when tha home team loses lol. Snoop was/is just as much as a "Gangsta" rapper as Ross, same story different shit, im handin' out e-kleenex 3 any1 who needs it
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^thats not even that much (ross) seems just that snoop ain't sellin at all..130K? wtf?
it'll go up..thats just an estimate after 1 day..
im thinking it might go up but maybe to about 150k
I don't think he is doing the 180-200 that I thought :-\
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Ricky Ross's shit > snoop any day of the week that ol' talentless geezer should retire cuz he holdin down the west and the real talent.
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I like that Rick Ross album. There are a few songs that I could do without, but I'm always bumpin' Maybach Music and Billionaire.
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I like that Rick Ross album. There are a few songs that I could do without, but I'm always bumpin' Maybach Music and Billionaire.
I love maybach music. Luxury Tax is great as well. 2 many similar sounding songs though for me. Plus i don't see the big deal about "the boss" single at all :-\ :-\
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and its normal...Kids loves Rick Ross & Lil Wayne... those that likes Snoop doesnt buy records anymore ..so it makes sense
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I like that Rick Ross album. There are a few songs that I could do without, but I'm always bumpin' Maybach Music and Billionaire.
I love maybach music. Luxury Tax is great as well. 2 many similar sounding songs though for me. Plus i don't see the big deal about "the boss" single at all :-\ :-\
^The only good thing about "The Boss" is the hook. :-\
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Snoop STILL got it and Ross got that shit too, the home team is losin' 4 ya'll face it, tha south is tha most "innovative" (i had 2 steal it) coast 2 ever be put out (even though tha east and tha west paved tha way). even if ppl didnt have access 2 shit like limewire, they would still sell more, kids buy ringtones, ol skool fans (90's and up) buy half and d/l tha other half, and OG fans (70's and up) buy MOSTLY all tha records they want. u cant blame Rick Ross 4 puttin' out a good album and sellin more than Snoop bcuz alot MORE ppl were open minded enough 2 lissen 2 tha album instead of passin' it off as "I'm So Hood pt. 33" and "Husslin' pt. 90". if Snoop was dressed in ALL BLUE and throwun up crip signs and rappin about Drive bys ova Dr. Dre beats then yall would b havin a fag fest rite now. like i said b4 Snoop is WAAY biggger than Doggystyle now and music in general (even though thats wat he's famous 4). NOBODY has forgotten about tha past, all we (most ppl) did was go 2 sleep and wake up tha next morning. shit im still bumpin' Muddy Waters and Chapter 2 World Domination, but that new Pete Rock shit is fire and that new Rick Ross album is bananas, same wit' dat Chris Brown shit (Yes I said Chris Brown). if u r too lazy 2 type in a new artist in your limewire search bar then thats ur fault. an album "single" is an album "single", something 2 draw ppl in and summerize wat ur about. why do think u hear tha same shit in music when an artist in ANY genre drops a single, weather its from tha past or present. 2pac "brendas got a baby" - tha album was on some conchis shit, Luther Vandross - all his songs were about tha same thing but they callin him a legend. now I DO blame tha companies for playin tha same songs on FM radio, but if ur too broke 2 buy Satelite radio, dont get mad- if u have tha internet then u have access, if u make $15 a month then u can pay 4 it. now i know everybody didnt know this shit or even took tha time out 2 think about it but now since u now go out and do something about it.
and like I've also said b4, if u dont like tha music thats out 2day, MAKE UR OWN FUCKIN MUSIC
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^I am a BIG ross fan (Port Of Miami is pretty fuckin dope) but his new album is a Frisbee
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^I am a BIG ross fan (Port Of Miami is pretty fuckin dope) but his new album is a Frisbee
ur opinion is urs, keep it. dont spread haterism, why u think thats wat alot of rappers talk about, its bcuz ppl do tha same shit thats infested wit this board (and SOME others too). everyday ALL day and its a trend that needs 2 stop and we need moderators (some should b paid) 2 erase this shit off of here
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^I am a BIG ross fan (Port Of Miami is pretty fuckin dope) but his new album is a Frisbee
ur opinion is urs, keep it. dont spread haterism, why u think thats wat alot of rappers talk about, its bcuz ppl do tha same shit thats infested wit this board (and SOME others too)
u dropped your opinion, why can't i drop mine?
so because i don't like the cd i am an automatic hater? learn 2 read, i said i am a BIG ross fan. I just refuse to dick ride him for the sake of it. If its wack, im gonna say it. Same situation if its a hot album.
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^I am a BIG ross fan (Port Of Miami is pretty fuckin dope) but his new album is a Frisbee
ur opinion is urs, keep it. dont spread haterism, why u think thats wat alot of rappers talk about, its bcuz ppl do tha same shit thats infested wit this board (and SOME others too)
u dropped your opinion, why can't i drop mine?
so because i don't like the cd i am an automatic hater? learn 2 read, i said i am a BIG ross fan. I just refuse to dick ride him for the sake of it. If its wack, im gonna say it. Same situation if its a hot album.
i neva called u a hater but look at wat ppl have been ritin' ever since u started this topic. MOST of them havent even heard POM or Trilla and callin it a fluke. its haterism 2 tha max, no disrespects 2 u but thats wat it is. u cant control ppl's thoughts on here anyways but u can open them, but why would u kill Hip Hop (metaphorically speaking) on a forum that u already know is 1 of tha problems wit todays industries. its a buncha young minded ppl hoppin on tha hate tha new Hip Hop artist trend.
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I own both of Ross' albums. Average to me.
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When tha game of Hip Hop is backed in2 a corner 4 tha last time, then ppl will begin 2 realize wat waz is now gone. how creative and new do u want shit 2 b, i hear music from different genres ALL THE TIME and its still got tha same beats and subjects matters as hip hop just wit a different twist. i think negative opinions being expressed all tha time is wat kills an artist even though that artist is good. nobody was sayin hip hop was dead wen Black Star was on some "lighter" Public Enemy shit or nobody was sayin' Soul was dead wen Minnie Ripperton died, so why is Hip Hop dead bcuz Pac & BIG are dead bcuz thats wat its all about, those two (and not even all that much Biggie anymore). Hip Hop is long from dead but it'll be just anotha disco at tha rate ppl are goin. there needs 2 education of Hip Hop, not just a buncha shit talkin about anotha mans work bcuz Nas said somethin and EVERYBODY hopped on his dick and then downloaded his album.
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When tha game of Hip Hop is backed in2 a corner 4 tha last time, then ppl will begin 2 realize wat waz is now gone. how creative and new do u want shit 2 b, i hear music from different genres ALL THE TIME and its still got tha same beats and subjects matters as hip hop just wit a different twist. i think negative opinions being expressed all tha time is wat kills an artist even though that artist is good. nobody was sayin hip hop was dead wen Black Star was on some "lighter" Public Enemy shit or nobody was sayin' Soul was dead wen Minnie Ripperton died, so why is Hip Hop dead bcuz Pac & BIG are dead bcuz thats wat its all about, those two (and not even all that much Biggie anymore). Hip Hop is long from dead but it'll be just anotha disco at tha rate ppl are goin. there needs 2 education of Hip Hop, not just a buncha shit talkin about anotha mans work bcuz Nas said somethin and EVERYBODY hopped on his dick and then downloaded his album.
I listen to EVERYTHING. I own at least 2500 albums, most spent with my hard earned money. So in listening so as much music as I have Rick Ross is average to me. I don't think he is wack, but Trilla and POM just don't get regular burn in the ride and at the house with me. Now that new Pete Rock is a different story.
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^I am a BIG ross fan (Port Of Miami is pretty fuckin dope) but his new album is a Frisbee
ur opinion is urs, keep it. dont spread haterism, why u think thats wat alot of rappers talk about, its bcuz ppl do tha same shit thats infested wit this board (and SOME others too)
u dropped your opinion, why can't i drop mine?
so because i don't like the cd i am an automatic hater? learn 2 read, i said i am a BIG ross fan. I just refuse to dick ride him for the sake of it. If its wack, im gonna say it. Same situation if its a hot album.
i neva called u a hater but look at wat ppl have been ritin' ever since u started this topic. MOST of them havent even heard POM or Trilla and callin it a fluke. its haterism 2 tha max, no disrespects 2 u but thats wat it is. u cant control ppl's thoughts on here anyways but u can open them, but why would u kill Hip Hop (metaphorically speaking) on a forum that u already know is 1 of tha problems wit todays industries. its a buncha young minded ppl hoppin on tha hate tha new Hip Hop artist trend.
I didn't start this topic lol. Well i've heard both so i don't apply 2 that. If they haven't heard his albums, than i agree it's hating. But if they have and dont like it, can't say nothin. Its their own opinion. I wouldn't say a forum like this is a problem with today's industry at all.
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I still do not see what the big deal about Ross outselling Snoop is.
Both of their albums are of equal quality anyways, someone said every track on Trilla sounds the same,
as if the more introspective/retrospective tracks on Ego-Trippin' do not all sound the same, givvveeee meeee a breeeaaaakkk.
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I still do not see what the big deal about Ross outselling Snoop is.
Both of their albums are of equal quality anyways, someone said every track on Trilla sounds the same,
as if the more introspective/retrospective tracks on Ego-Trippin' do not all sound the same, givvveeee meeee a breeeaaaakkk.
Because it's Snoop. In most cases if you say Snoop to most they would think the rapper before the cartoon character. He is damn near a icon so really other than Ross and Fat Joe and he is not dropping a album traditionally in the winter time with the heavyweights, most believe he should EASILY outsell the comp.
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Because it's Snoop. In most cases if you say Snoop to most they would think the rapper before the cartoon character. He is damn near a icon so really other than Ross and Fat Joe and he is not dropping a album traditionally in the winter time with the heavyweights, most believe he should EASILY outsell the comp.
thing is, the economy on which snoop would typically push those numbers (against heavyweights and flyweights alike) has changed much like the same the perception of snoop from 92-07. there can always be the question of maybe ross has a more dedicated fanbase, or a campaign that will produce more numbers.
once again, if snoop had dropped Doggystyle I could see some justification in some of these responses. but just because its snoop dogg its suppose to triumph above said opposition "just because"? I'll be on the sideline for that one.
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Because it's Snoop. In most cases if you say Snoop to most they would think the rapper before the cartoon character. He is damn near a icon so really other than Ross and Fat Joe and he is not dropping a album traditionally in the winter time with the heavyweights, most believe he should EASILY outsell the comp.
thing is, the economy on which snoop would typically push those numbers (against heavyweights and flyweights alike) has changed much like the same the perception of snoop from 92-07. there can always be the question of maybe ross has a more dedicated fanbase, or a campaign that will produce more numbers.
once again, if snoop had dropped Doggystyle I could see some justification in some of these responses. but just because its snoop dogg its suppose to triumph above said opposition "just because"? I'll be on the sideline for that one.
I highly doubt Ross is putting up 800k like his last album. He really does not have a monster hit like Hustlin on this album. I do agree things have changed alot music wise in sales and support across the board. But I would be highly surprised if Snoop did not go at least gold on this album. Ross this time around is going to need multiple hit records to crack gold this time.
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^I am a BIG ross fan (Port Of Miami is pretty fuckin dope) but his new album is a Frisbee
ur opinion is urs, keep it. dont spread haterism, why u think thats wat alot of rappers talk about, its bcuz ppl do tha same shit thats infested wit this board (and SOME others too)
u dropped your opinion, why can't i drop mine?
so because i don't like the cd i am an automatic hater? learn 2 read, i said i am a BIG ross fan. I just refuse to dick ride him for the sake of it. If its wack, im gonna say it. Same situation if its a hot album.
i neva called u a hater but look at wat ppl have been ritin' ever since u started this topic. MOST of them havent even heard POM or Trilla and callin it a fluke. its haterism 2 tha max, no disrespects 2 u but thats wat it is. u cant control ppl's thoughts on here anyways but u can open them, but why would u kill Hip Hop (metaphorically speaking) on a forum that u already know is 1 of tha problems wit todays industries. its a buncha young minded ppl hoppin on tha hate tha new Hip Hop artist trend.
I didn't start this topic lol. Well i've heard both so i don't apply 2 that. If they haven't heard his albums, than i agree it's hating. But if they have and dont like it, can't say nothin. Its their own opinion. I wouldn't say a forum like this is a problem with today's industry at all.
this forum is a problem, cuz its tha only WestSide based forum on tha internet and all folx do is fill it up wit nonsense. MOST folx dont even give it a lissen just bcuz its from tha south or tha nigga is a hussle rapper. now NOT EVERYONE is gonna like tha same things but most folx like most shit, its just a common fact. if u like hip hop then u like down south music, it just goes togetha, wheather u from south central or brooklyn, if u say u dont or u neva give it a chance then ur ignorant (and not in a good way). and this isnt just 4 Ross's album its for ALL Hip Hop, u cant call somethin dead or weak if u dont kno it exist. that like me sayin all tha ants in my backyard are dead but they all are in my home----- breathe on that 4 a little bit.
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i guarantee to all snoop will outsell ross in the end
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^I am a BIG ross fan (Port Of Miami is pretty fuckin dope) but his new album is a Frisbee
ur opinion is urs, keep it. dont spread haterism, why u think thats wat alot of rappers talk about, its bcuz ppl do tha same shit thats infested wit this board (and SOME others too)
u dropped your opinion, why can't i drop mine?
so because i don't like the cd i am an automatic hater? learn 2 read, i said i am a BIG ross fan. I just refuse to dick ride him for the sake of it. If its wack, im gonna say it. Same situation if its a hot album.
i neva called u a hater but look at wat ppl have been ritin' ever since u started this topic. MOST of them havent even heard POM or Trilla and callin it a fluke. its haterism 2 tha max, no disrespects 2 u but thats wat it is. u cant control ppl's thoughts on here anyways but u can open them, but why would u kill Hip Hop (metaphorically speaking) on a forum that u already know is 1 of tha problems wit todays industries. its a buncha young minded ppl hoppin on tha hate tha new Hip Hop artist trend.
I didn't start this topic lol. Well i've heard both so i don't apply 2 that. If they haven't heard his albums, than i agree it's hating. But if they have and dont like it, can't say nothin. Its their own opinion. I wouldn't say a forum like this is a problem with today's industry at all.
this forum is a problem, cuz its tha only WestSide based forum on tha internet and all folx do is fill it up wit nonsense. MOST folx dont even give it a lissen just bcuz its from tha south or tha nigga is a hussle rapper. now NOT EVERYONE is gonna like tha same things but most folx like most shit, its just a common fact. if u like hip hop then u like down south music, it just goes togetha, wheather u from south central or brooklyn, if u say u dont or u neva give it a chance then ur ignorant (and not in a good way). and this isnt just 4 Ross's album its for ALL Hip Hop, u cant call somethin dead or weak if u dont kno it exist. that like me sayin all tha ants in my backyard are dead but they all are in my home----- breathe on that 4 a little bit.
People get what they want out of this forum. But that is every forum trust me. There are some very knowledgable and great posters here. They can talk about any form of music you want and have intelligent convo to match about it. Like you said in another post, there is alot of bs out there.
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Snoop or Ross wont go Gold, nobody will-- pretty soon Gold will b tha new Diamond
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MAN FUCC CORNY ASS RICK ROSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!! That dude is wacc
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^I am a BIG ross fan (Port Of Miami is pretty fuckin dope) but his new album is a Frisbee
ur opinion is urs, keep it. dont spread haterism, why u think thats wat alot of rappers talk about, its bcuz ppl do tha same shit thats infested wit this board (and SOME others too)
u dropped your opinion, why can't i drop mine?
so because i don't like the cd i am an automatic hater? learn 2 read, i said i am a BIG ross fan. I just refuse to dick ride him for the sake of it. If its wack, im gonna say it. Same situation if its a hot album.
i neva called u a hater but look at wat ppl have been ritin' ever since u started this topic. MOST of them havent even heard POM or Trilla and callin it a fluke. its haterism 2 tha max, no disrespects 2 u but thats wat it is. u cant control ppl's thoughts on here anyways but u can open them, but why would u kill Hip Hop (metaphorically speaking) on a forum that u already know is 1 of tha problems wit todays industries. its a buncha young minded ppl hoppin on tha hate tha new Hip Hop artist trend.
I didn't start this topic lol. Well i've heard both so i don't apply 2 that. If they haven't heard his albums, than i agree it's hating. But if they have and dont like it, can't say nothin. Its their own opinion. I wouldn't say a forum like this is a problem with today's industry at all.
this forum is a problem, cuz its tha only WestSide based forum on tha internet and all folx do is fill it up wit nonsense. MOST folx dont even give it a lissen just bcuz its from tha south or tha nigga is a hussle rapper. now NOT EVERYONE is gonna like tha same things but most folx like most shit, its just a common fact. if u like hip hop then u like down south music, it just goes togetha, wheather u from south central or brooklyn, if u say u dont or u neva give it a chance then ur ignorant (and not in a good way). and this isnt just 4 Ross's album its for ALL Hip Hop, u cant call somethin dead or weak if u dont kno it exist. that like me sayin all tha ants in my backyard are dead but they all are in my home----- breathe on that 4 a little bit.
People get what they want out of this forum. But that is every forum trust me. There are some very knowledgable and great posters here. They can talk about any form of music you want and have intelligent convo to match about it. Like you said in another post, there is alot of bs out there.
wen i find wat u tryna say is on here (about hip hop) then i'll change my mind
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Snoop or Ross wont go Gold, nobody will-- pretty soon Gold will b tha new Diamond
are u serious? i guarantee you at least 1 of them do, if not both. Platinum is the new diamond, that makes more sense.
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^I am a BIG ross fan (Port Of Miami is pretty fuckin dope) but his new album is a Frisbee
ur opinion is urs, keep it. dont spread haterism, why u think thats wat alot of rappers talk about, its bcuz ppl do tha same shit thats infested wit this board (and SOME others too)
u dropped your opinion, why can't i drop mine?
so because i don't like the cd i am an automatic hater? learn 2 read, i said i am a BIG ross fan. I just refuse to dick ride him for the sake of it. If its wack, im gonna say it. Same situation if its a hot album.
i neva called u a hater but look at wat ppl have been ritin' ever since u started this topic. MOST of them havent even heard POM or Trilla and callin it a fluke. its haterism 2 tha max, no disrespects 2 u but thats wat it is. u cant control ppl's thoughts on here anyways but u can open them, but why would u kill Hip Hop (metaphorically speaking) on a forum that u already know is 1 of tha problems wit todays industries. its a buncha young minded ppl hoppin on tha hate tha new Hip Hop artist trend.
I didn't start this topic lol. Well i've heard both so i don't apply 2 that. If they haven't heard his albums, than i agree it's hating. But if they have and dont like it, can't say nothin. Its their own opinion. I wouldn't say a forum like this is a problem with today's industry at all.
this forum is a problem, cuz its tha only WestSide based forum on tha internet and all folx do is fill it up wit nonsense. MOST folx dont even give it a lissen just bcuz its from tha south or tha nigga is a hussle rapper. now NOT EVERYONE is gonna like tha same things but most folx like most shit, its just a common fact. if u like hip hop then u like down south music, it just goes togetha, wheather u from south central or brooklyn, if u say u dont or u neva give it a chance then ur ignorant (and not in a good way). and this isnt just 4 Ross's album its for ALL Hip Hop, u cant call somethin dead or weak if u dont kno it exist. that like me sayin all tha ants in my backyard are dead but they all are in my home----- breathe on that 4 a little bit.
People get what they want out of this forum. But that is every forum trust me. There are some very knowledgable and great posters here. They can talk about any form of music you want and have intelligent convo to match about it. Like you said in another post, there is alot of bs out there.
wen i find wat u tryna say is on here (about hip hop) then i'll change my mind
Check Outbound Section, use the search engine and see the convos Tanj, Bundy (yes Al Bundy) Lunatic, HighEyeCue, Dre-Day, Quiet Truth, Chad Vader, and others be having in here about music. I am forgetting alot of cats so no disrespect to the homies, but there is alot of dope convos in here.
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I highly doubt Ross is putting up 800k like his last album. He really does not have a monster hit like Hustlin on this album. I do agree things have changed alot music wise in sales and support across the board. But I would be highly surprised if Snoop did not go at least gold on this album. Ross this time around is going to need multiple hit records to crack gold this time.
I too doubt he has a hit that can propell the entire project like Hustlin'. I doubt Snoop does too though, I honestly dont think Snoop's dropped a single that could do that since the Rhythm & Gangsta album. Thats That Shit got momentum moving for his project, and Sensual Seduction is a good start -- it may be too early to tell. He always has a bunch of potential singles but nothing thats just been "GAH!" in the last few years.
I dont know though, I wouldnt be too surprised if Snoop didnt. If he had released this album a year or two from now I would, but I am still teething off Blue Carpet. I was anticipating Blue Carp because of what I was left with with R&G (now I love this record but I hated it at the time, history is probably repeating itself with E.T, but I doubt it.)
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I highly doubt Ross is putting up 800k like his last album. He really does not have a monster hit like Hustlin on this album. I do agree things have changed alot music wise in sales and support across the board. But I would be highly surprised if Snoop did not go at least gold on this album. Ross this time around is going to need multiple hit records to crack gold this time.
I too doubt he has a hit that can propell the entire project like Hustlin'. I doubt Snoop does too though, I honestly dont think Snoop's dropped a single that could do that since the Rhythm & Gangsta album. Thats That Shit got momentum moving for his project, and Sensual Seduction is a good start -- it may be too early to tell. He always has a bunch of potential singles but nothing thats just been "GAH!" in the last few years.
I dont know though, I wouldnt be too surprised if Snoop didnt. If he had released this album a year or two from now I would, but I am still teething off Blue Carpet. I was anticipating Blue Carp because of what I was left with with R&G (now I love this record but I hated it at the time, history is probably repeating itself with E.T, but I doubt it.)
True. But I have always said that Snoop's and his record label's selection of singles needs work.
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theres alot of bullshit everywhere on a every forum.... its just a matter of perspective
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I highly doubt Ross is putting up 800k like his last album. He really does not have a monster hit like Hustlin on this album. I do agree things have changed alot music wise in sales and support across the board. But I would be highly surprised if Snoop did not go at least gold on this album. Ross this time around is going to need multiple hit records to crack gold this time.
I too doubt he has a hit that can propell the entire project like Hustlin'. I doubt Snoop does too though, I honestly dont think Snoop's dropped a single that could do that since the Rhythm & Gangsta album. Thats That Shit got momentum moving for his project, and Sensual Seduction is a good start -- it may be too early to tell. He always has a bunch of potential singles but nothing thats just been "GAH!" in the last few years.
I dont know though, I wouldnt be too surprised if Snoop didnt. If he had released this album a year or two from now I would, but I am still teething off Blue Carpet. I was anticipating Blue Carp because of what I was left with with R&G (now I love this record but I hated it at the time, history is probably repeating itself with E.T, but I doubt it.)
True. But I have always said that Snoop's and his record label's selection of singles needs work.
Sexual Seduction is HUGE, its bigger than just tha rap stations its even on tha Michael Baisden show as tha backround music. like i said Snoop is bigger than music, ALOT of artist are, ppl just dont c it. once u on TV, then its up 2 u 2 decide on how ur career goes and ends. even JaRule had that chance, but fucked it up miserably
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I highly doubt Ross is putting up 800k like his last album. He really does not have a monster hit like Hustlin on this album. I do agree things have changed alot music wise in sales and support across the board. But I would be highly surprised if Snoop did not go at least gold on this album. Ross this time around is going to need multiple hit records to crack gold this time.
I too doubt he has a hit that can propell the entire project like Hustlin'. I doubt Snoop does too though, I honestly dont think Snoop's dropped a single that could do that since the Rhythm & Gangsta album. Thats That Shit got momentum moving for his project, and Sensual Seduction is a good start -- it may be too early to tell. He always has a bunch of potential singles but nothing thats just been "GAH!" in the last few years.
I dont know though, I wouldnt be too surprised if Snoop didnt. If he had released this album a year or two from now I would, but I am still teething off Blue Carpet. I was anticipating Blue Carp because of what I was left with with R&G (now I love this record but I hated it at the time, history is probably repeating itself with E.T, but I doubt it.)
True. But I have always said that Snoop's and his record label's selection of singles needs work.
Sexual Seduction is HUGE, its bigger than just tha rap stations its even on tha Michael Baisden show as tha backround music. like i said Snoop is bigger than music, ALOT of artist are, ppl just dont c it. once u on TV, then its up 2 u 2 decide on how ur career goes and ends. even JaRule had that chance, but fucked it up miserably
I was not talking about Sexual Seduction. That is a no brainer.
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I highly doubt Ross is putting up 800k like his last album. He really does not have a monster hit like Hustlin on this album. I do agree things have changed alot music wise in sales and support across the board. But I would be highly surprised if Snoop did not go at least gold on this album. Ross this time around is going to need multiple hit records to crack gold this time.
I too doubt he has a hit that can propell the entire project like Hustlin'. I doubt Snoop does too though, I honestly dont think Snoop's dropped a single that could do that since the Rhythm & Gangsta album. Thats That Shit got momentum moving for his project, and Sensual Seduction is a good start -- it may be too early to tell. He always has a bunch of potential singles but nothing thats just been "GAH!" in the last few years.
I dont know though, I wouldnt be too surprised if Snoop didnt. If he had released this album a year or two from now I would, but I am still teething off Blue Carpet. I was anticipating Blue Carp because of what I was left with with R&G (now I love this record but I hated it at the time, history is probably repeating itself with E.T, but I doubt it.)
True. But I have always said that Snoop's and his record label's selection of singles needs work.
Sexual Seduction is HUGE, its bigger than just tha rap stations its even on tha Michael Baisden show as tha backround music. like i said Snoop is bigger than music, ALOT of artist are, ppl just dont c it. once u on TV, then its up 2 u 2 decide on how ur career goes and ends. even JaRule had that chance, but fucked it up miserably
I was not talking about Sexual Seduction. That is a no brainer.
oh
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maybe cuz know one wants to hear sell out snoopy and his sensual seduction bullshit
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Snoop or Ross wont go Gold, nobody will-- pretty soon Gold will b tha new Diamond
are u serious? i guarantee you at least 1 of them do, if not both. Platinum is the new diamond, that makes more sense.
When Plies dropped Shawty last year dont u think that that single if released in 1998 woulda went platinum tha 1st week it dropped or even double platinum cuz it was so popular??? compare tha numbers and stats my nigga. Jay Z didnt even break platinum (his best album since Tha Dynasty), Snoop's last junt didnt even break platinum, Kanye/50 had 2 make an imaginary beef 2 go platinum, dont think cuz Akon sells 3000000 records on his first album or second means he's at tha top of tha food chain, its only the begginners popularity wave, EVERYONE has it at 1 point or anotha. they used 2 sell 12 million records back in tha 80's, and in tha 90's a some went went diamond or CLOSE (6,7,8,9 mill), early 00's the high point was 3 to 5 million and nowadays its platinum. If Michael Jackson woulda dropped Thriller last week he wouldnt even sell a 4th of wat he sold then, same wit da Beetles. Tha times have OFFICIALLY (and left me EMPHASIZE That) changed, and its not just wit music
Its not like im saying anything u dont already know and its not like its anything new going on, it is wat it is
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MAN WHY are niggaz talking about rick ross ? he would go on my list of wackest rappers ever really quicc !!!!!!
old fat ass , funny looking , talking over a beat ass nigga PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!! FUCC RICK ROSS , FAKE NIGGA
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theres a whole lot of ignorant shit goin in here...
too many of yall are ignorant to record sales and the way the they work.
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I was particularly surprised with Snoop's 1st-day sales forecast. The reason being is the fact that not only did he have a radio-friendly single blowing up the airwaves, but he also had the top rated reality show on E! Network cross promoting him for the past 3 months. With that much face time, it usually translates into modest sales revenue. However, American Idol judge Randy Jackson also dropped his own album yesterday and it's on pace of selling 20k. With that in mind, American Idol is THE highest rated TV show in America, so it makes for a hard case to argue why that particular medium didn't boost their 1st-week sales projections.
On a side-note, I wasn't aware that Blue Carpet Treatment hadn't hit Platinum yet? Hitsdailydouble.com has Blue Carpet Treatment listed at 882,900 sold to date in the U.S. while Rick Ross' last album has sold 769,000.
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Snoop or Ross wont go Gold, nobody will-- pretty soon Gold will b tha new Diamond
are u serious? i guarantee you at least 1 of them do, if not both. Platinum is the new diamond, that makes more sense.
When Plies dropped Shawty last year dont u think that that single if released in 1998 woulda went platinum tha 1st week it dropped or even double platinum cuz it was so popular??? compare tha numbers and stats my nigga. Jay Z didnt even break platinum (his best album since Tha Dynasty), Snoop's last junt didnt even break platinum, Kanye/50 had 2 make an imaginary beef 2 go platinum, dont think cuz Akon sells 3000000 records on his first album or second means he's at tha top of tha food chain, its only the begginners popularity wave, EVERYONE has it at 1 point or anotha. they used 2 sell 12 million records back in tha 80's, and in tha 90's a some went went diamond or CLOSE (6,7,8,9 mill), early 00's the high point was 3 to 5 million and nowadays its platinum. If Michael Jackson woulda dropped Thriller last week he wouldnt even sell a 4th of wat he sold then, same wit da Beetles. Tha times have OFFICIALLY (and left me EMPHASIZE That) changed, and its not just wit music
Its not like im saying anything u dont already know and its not like its anything new going on, it is wat it is
but he still goin gold. And now in days its EXTREMELY hard for a "debut" rapper to do anything and Plies proved that wrong. Jay-Z also didn't make a very mainstream friendly record. No bullshit party joints. Straight hip-hop (at least for the most part). He didn't have that "show me what u got" on this album. And for ya info homie, Jay-Z was just certified platinum. Say what u want bout Kanye and 50, but they did they thing. Kanye like double platinum. 50 is platinum as well. Don't forget T.I., 2 big selling albums in 2006 and 2007.
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^^^ but wat I'm tryna get at is ALL sales are LOW in todays music sales (AND DROPPING EVERY WEEK). its not bcuz of niggaz droppin' "hip hop" trax or "party" records neitha bcuz if that was tha case, Today Was A Good Day shouldnt have sold wat it did back in 92/93 and instead Brotha Lynch Hung shoulda went diamond. shit Justin Timberlake sold 3 milly, but how many ppl do u think downloaded that shit, if this was tha 80's- Timberlake woulda went diamond EASY. If u check Snoops record tho, MOST of his albums only went double platinum. "Newer" artist tend 2 sell more than vets in tha game, JUST BCUZ OF THEY RECENT POPULARITY- most of it has nothing 2 do wit' anything else. and just bcuz they say T.I. sold 2mill doesnt mean 2million ppl brought his album and tha same 4 everybody else. i dont kno if that means MORE or LESS but only 2million is off even if its 2,123,456 in sales, u kno 3million ppl could have brought his album or 100,000- that right there im not 2 sure on.
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its all because sexual eruption is a hit, but it aint shit, neva hafta wurry is a way betta than this wack ass single
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The internet has pretty much killed album sales for most artists. That being said I am still surprised at the low projections for Snoop, I thought he would do closer to 200k. The artists who appeal to a broad fan base including older people who don't downoad albums are the ones who are still selling like Alicia Keys, and also country artists fall into that same category. Hip Hop has suffered the most. Just going gold right now is a major achievement when ten years ago every rapper who would release an album would pretty much go gold with ease
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The internet has pretty much killed album sales for most artists. That being said I am still surprised at the low projections for Snoop, I thought he would do closer to 200k. The artists who appeal to a broad fan base including older people who don't downoad albums are the ones who are still selling like Alicia Keys, and also country artists fall into that same category. Hip Hop has suffered the most. Just going gold right now is a major achievement when ten years ago every rapper who would release an album would pretty much go gold with ease
but who's to blame, the fans or the labels?
not saying that fans have no influence regarding to the sales, but i think the fans, that want to support their favorite artists will buy their albums.
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The internet has pretty much killed album sales for most artists. That being said I am still surprised at the low projections for Snoop, I thought he would do closer to 200k. The artists who appeal to a broad fan base including older people who don't downoad albums are the ones who are still selling like Alicia Keys, and also country artists fall into that same category. Hip Hop has suffered the most. Just going gold right now is a major achievement when ten years ago every rapper who would release an album would pretty much go gold with ease
but who's to blame, the fans or the labels?
not saying that fans have no influence regarding to the sales, but i think the fans, that want to support their favorite artists will buy their albums.
I think the hardcore fan will support but the "fairweather" fan who years ago might have bought the album because of liking a song or 2 they heard are gone, they can just download it. I remember in 1999 when Metallica was speaking against Napster every music fan was against them but from the artists point of view basically people were stealing from them and it turns out that they were right. Since then the internet has exploded and has affected everything from music sales to television ratings, its a very easy alternative
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tied off this bullshit tread !! lets see next week for final week one sales . Nas had big week one sale but pretty much burned out fast.. The deal for snoop to stay on the chart to sell .. Akon did not have a big week one sale but have gone 3xplat in us and 4 million world wide.. Snoop just need to be able to get the right single to stay on the charts .... Lets see next week for first week sales , worldwide snoop gonna have a big debut . While rick ross want do shit worldwide.
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The internet has pretty much killed album sales for most artists. That being said I am still surprised at the low projections for Snoop, I thought he would do closer to 200k. The artists who appeal to a broad fan base including older people who don't downoad albums are the ones who are still selling like Alicia Keys, and also country artists fall into that same category. Hip Hop has suffered the most. Just going gold right now is a major achievement when ten years ago every rapper who would release an album would pretty much go gold with ease
but who's to blame, the fans or the labels?
not saying that fans have no influence regarding to the sales, but i think the fans, that want to support their favorite artists will buy their albums.
I think the hardcore fan will support but the "fairweather" fan who years ago might have bought the album because of liking a song or 2 they heard are gone, they can just download it. I remember in 1999 when Metallica was speaking against Napster every music fan was against them but from the artists point of view basically people were stealing from them and it turns out that they were right. Since then the internet has exploded and has affected everything from music sales to television ratings, its a very easy alternative
yes the internet has become an easy alternative, but it also provided new ways for promotion, distribution etc.
so the labels are responsible for not optimally using the internet's advantages; even my dear friend Jimmy Iovine said something along those lines (if i'm not mistaken) in a recent interview. so it's not just downloading that is the problem.
sure buying an album via itunes is cheaper than buying a cd, but it doesn't really offer anything special in compared to a free download.
as you know, you can't stop technology, they just have to work with it and adapt different formulas to succesfully replace the cd ( which will probably die in the near future anyway).
yes i noticed we switched the subject of the topic, but fuck it, it wasn't going anywhere anyway.
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LOL at the double standards some of you cats throw out. It is funny how yall show this we need west coast unity bullshit when it only comes to your favorite rappers. How about Snoop album wasnt that great and fans get tired of medicore rap? What other west coast artist you guys support anyway that is not DPG related or The Game?
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LOL at the double standards some of you cats throw out. It is funny how yall show this we need west coast unity bullshit when it only comes to your favorite rappers. How about Snoop album wasnt that great and fans get tired of medicore rap? What other west coast artist you guys support anyway that is not DPG related or The Game?
I have not heard the album but I support good music. East, West, wherever. But to name a few:
Dilated
Liks
Muggs
Cypress
Cube
Blu & Exile
Del
Sick Jacken
Kemo
Coup
Zion I
Just to name a few. I could be here all day with the support of artists I give out here.
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LOL at the double standards some of you cats throw out. It is funny how yall show this we need west coast unity bullshit when it only comes to your favorite rappers. How about Snoop album wasnt that great and fans get tired of medicore rap? What other west coast artist you guys support anyway that is not DPG related or The Game?
I have not heard the album but I support good music. East, West, wherever. But to name a few:
Dilated
Liks
Muggs
Cypress
Cube
Blu & Exile
Del
Sick Jacken
Kemo
Coup
Zion I
Just to name a few. I could be here all day with the support of artists I give out here.
Atleast you have an open ear some of these cats on here cheer for rappers and get mad like they cheering for a team. I have no favorite artists I like good music although I support the west coast to the fullest only if the same if dope tho.
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was wondering how do they project do they take one day sales and then multiply by 7 :-\
I didn't get the album yet but I will buy it on Saturday
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was wondering how do they project do they take one day sales and then multiply by 7 :-\
I didn't get the album yet but I will buy it on Saturday
yeah i dont beleave on these units, thats why i look on bilboard next week
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in 5 years, selling 100,000 is gonna be a HUGE achievement just like 2day sellin 3 million is a huge success- 5 years ago that was considered a FLOP or average.
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in 5 years, selling 100,000 is gonna be a HUGE achievement just like 2day sellin 3 million is a huge success- 5 years ago that was considered a FLOP or average.
shit I think in 5 years we might not even have CDs :-\
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From hitsdailydouble.com:
YOUR WEAKEND TOP 10 PREVIEW: Three records on next week’s chart will be in six figures, and all are debuts (no surprise there). Def Jam/IDJ rapper Rick Ross has the inside track for #1 on a projected 175-180k, followed closely by Sony BMG’s Now 27 with 165-170k. Geffen’s Snoop Dogg is a lock for #3, trending toward 120-125k, after which it gets iffy. Jack Johnson (Brushfire/Universal Republic) and Alan Jackson (Arista Nashville) are both looking 50-55k-ish, followed by the 45-50k trio of debuting Fat Joe (Virgin), Michael Jackson’s Thriller (Sony/Legacy) and Sara Bareilles (Epic). The rest of the Top 10, projecting 35-40k, will likely consist of Janet Jackson (Def Jam/IDJ), Now: The ’80s (SBMG) and Erykah Badu (Universal Motown). (3/14a)
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Ricky Ross's shit > snoop any day of the week that ol' talentless geezer should retire cuz he holdin down the west and the real talent.
please ,that is bullshit ,youngster . one snoop is not holding down the west . Snoop has kept the west coast alive for years . without snoop dogg & ice cube there be no west coast right know because it would has dead in 1999. Snoop dogg & ice cube kept west coast alive al lthose years when we had no other west coast artists out there. rick ross shit is wack comoared to snoop ,youngster .Snoop has twice the talent rick ross has. stop acting on grwn up ,youngster . you just made snoop grew up & you got feel it because you are ahting youngster who needs to grow up.snoop dogg is one of most talented west coast artists ever . you just have no udes waht good musci is because you are youngster & grew with trash for music. the best music was made in 1960,1970,1980, & early 1990's .after 1997 the music all sucked & was trash.
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no fuckin way ross is gonna outsell snoop 1st week or beyond..mark my words
he will
and people whats wrong with rick ross
he is cold
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no fuckin way ross is gonna outsell snoop 1st week or beyond..mark my words
he will
and people whats wrong with rick ross
he is cold
like i said b4 they just mad that tha home team is losin'
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The internet has pretty much killed album sales for most artists. That being said I am still surprised at the low projections for Snoop, I thought he would do closer to 200k. The artists who appeal to a broad fan base including older people who don't downoad albums are the ones who are still selling like Alicia Keys, and also country artists fall into that same category. Hip Hop has suffered the most. Just going gold right now is a major achievement when ten years ago every rapper who would release an album would pretty much go gold with ease
but who's to blame, the fans or the labels?
not saying that fans have no influence regarding to the sales, but i think the fans, that want to support their favorite artists will buy their albums.
I think the hardcore fan will support but the "fairweather" fan who years ago might have bought the album because of liking a song or 2 they heard are gone, they can just download it. I remember in 1999 when Metallica was speaking against Napster every music fan was against them but from the artists point of view basically people were stealing from them and it turns out that they were right. Since then the internet has exploded and has affected everything from music sales to television ratings, its a very easy alternative
yes the internet has become an easy alternative, but it also provided new ways for promotion, distribution etc.
so the labels are responsible for not optimally using the internet's advantages; even my dear friend Jimmy Iovine said something along those lines (if i'm not mistaken) in a recent interview. so it's not just downloading that is the problem.
sure buying an album via itunes is cheaper than buying a cd, but it doesn't really offer anything special in compared to a free download.
as you know, you can't stop technology, they just have to work with it and adapt different formulas to succesfully replace the cd ( which will probably die in the near future anyway).
yes i noticed we switched the subject of the topic, but fuck it, it wasn't going anywhere anyway.
easy promotion, easy distribution only leads to EASY downloading of your favorite song or MP3 .. nowadays record companys aint even giving out album deals anymore there aint no more money in selling records even DIDDY president of bad boy says he aint makin money off of music no more hes just doing it for the love of music now
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Ross' wack. I liked Port Of Miami, cause the original sound. But what's on Trilla? Still screams ''boss, Ross'' and shit. I don't want to listen it. I just make a decision after hearing singles. Wack wack wack.
I hope Snoop outsells Ross after this week.
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From hitsdailydouble.com
After 72.62% of sales in:
1) Now 27 - 137,048
2) Rick Ross - 127,888
3) Snoop Dogg - 80,617
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Lol, this shit can´t be real
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hahahahahahahhahahahahaha