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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: pootypooty on March 29, 2008, 09:30:15 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/v/BZRb7CrP_f8&hl=en
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LMAO
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LOL.... Somebody need to pass Dre the blunt!
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its true... its taking too long, aint nobody gonna give a fuck about it, and if hes gonna wack bishop lamont all over it then its gonna end up bein shit
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He needs that Chronic, Chronic!
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at least he said straight up
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Well shiet Dre has been "working" on this album for 6 year. Him and Crooked I can go to hell.
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Well shiet Dre has been "working" on this album for 6 year. Him and Crooked I can go to hell.
lmao, I know right.
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This will be the most Anticipated album ever and DRE has alot of pressure on him for taking so long !!!!!!!!!! He needs to change the name of the album !!!!
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FACT: Dre is too afraid that the album won't live up to the expectations (which it wont)
and thats why its taking so long.
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seems like it bothers snoop more than Dre ;)
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FUNNY CHIT
INSTEAD OF DETOX I WILL NOW CALL IT
DELAY
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He needs that Chronic, Chronic!
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nowadays itīs hard to create a classic,i understand both sides.the fans canīt wait and the artists want to create a straight banger.
when this drops we all gonna love this shit.but to me detox is gonna drop 09 and boss this year hoppefully.
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nowadays itīs hard to create a classic,i understand both sides.the fans canīt wait and the artists want to create a straight banger.
when this drops we all gonna love this shit.but to me detox is gonna drop 09 and boss this year hoppefully.
The release date of BOSS depends of the success of his Akon-featured single, you heard his interview with Eddie...
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nowadays itīs hard to create a classic,i understand both sides.the fans canīt wait and the artists want to create a straight banger.
when this drops we all gonna love this shit.but to me detox is gonna drop 09 and boss this year hoppefully.
The release date of BOSS depends of the success of his Akon-featured single, you heard his interview with Eddie...
lol, he just wants to copy glasses malones success with another gay akon feature ;D
Stupid NWA... n**** without album
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Yeah, Dre needs to learn from Snoop and churn out 3-4 mediocre albums in the time it's taken for Detox to be made, sounds like a plan
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He's right bout Dre needs to get high. Dre's best records were made when he was smoking weed in the studio. "The Chronic" and "Doggystyle" were produced by a high Doctor. Maybe he didn't smoke as much as Snoop, but he said in an interview in 92' that he smoked a lil weed during the making of "The Chronic"
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Yeah, Dre needs to learn from Snoop and churn out 3-4 mediocre albums in the time it's taken for Detox to be made, sounds like a plan
you don't need 6 years to make a classic album .. We all know Dre can't meet the expectations anymore and he still thinks the fans believe this perfectionnist argument .. LOL
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snoop is rite about diz shit I was looking forward to detox for years and no longer waiting for to come out plus dre said fuck gangsta rap a long time ago
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LOL at snoops last sentence.
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FUNNY CHIT
INSTEAD OF DETOX I WILL NOW CALL IT
DELAY
LoL
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seems like it bothers snoop more than Dre ;)
Snoop wants to be on a hot record asap cause his Ego trippin is not doing too good for the Doggfather.
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This shit is getting ridiculious even snoop is taking shit now
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haha
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FUNNY CHIT
INSTEAD OF DETOX I WILL NOW CALL IT
DELAY
LoL
Classic
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lol thats funny
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;D ;D
(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/8084/drdrefinishesdetoxbyladvh0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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Yeah, Dre needs to learn from Snoop and churn out 3-4 mediocre albums in the time it's taken for Detox to be made, sounds like a plan
you don't need 6 years to make a classic album .. We all know Dre can't meet the expectations anymore and he still thinks the fans believe this perfectionnist argument .. LOL
If he can make a classic album he can take as long as he likes, exactly who is his competition? No one else on the west coast are making classics
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Yeah, Dre needs to learn from Snoop and churn out 3-4 mediocre albums in the time it's taken for Detox to be made, sounds like a plan
you don't need 6 years to make a classic album .. We all know Dre can't meet the expectations anymore and he still thinks the fans believe this perfectionnist argument .. LOL
If he can make a classic album he can take as long as he likes, exactly who is his competition? No one else on the west coast are making classics
So you're fine with him delayin Detox this long? That's basically what you said. This album might be a classic but it will NEVER live up to the expectations.
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Yeah, Dre needs to learn from Snoop and churn out 3-4 mediocre albums in the time it's taken for Detox to be made, sounds like a plan
you don't need 6 years to make a classic album .. We all know Dre can't meet the expectations anymore and he still thinks the fans believe this perfectionnist argument .. LOL
If he can make a classic album he can take as long as he likes, exactly who is his competition? No one else on the west coast are making classics
So you're fine with him delayin Detox this long? That's basically what you said. This album might be a classic but it will NEVER live up to the expectations.
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LOL.... Somebody need to pass Dre the blunt!
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Yeah, Dre needs to learn from Snoop and churn out 3-4 mediocre albums in the time it's taken for Detox to be made, sounds like a plan
you don't need 6 years to make a classic album .. We all know Dre can't meet the expectations anymore and he still thinks the fans believe this perfectionnist argument .. LOL
If he can make a classic album he can take as long as he likes, exactly who is his competition? No one else on the west coast are making classics
So you're fine with him delayin Detox this long? That's basically what you said. This album might be a classic but it will NEVER live up to the expectations.
That's not basically what I said, that is exactly what I said - it's not like I'm sitting round the house all day waiting for Detox to drop, if it drops it can drop whenever as long as it's dope. If it's real dope then he'll have a better album than anyone in the last 10 years or so, is that worth the wait? Of course, all these wack and mediocre albums dudes are pumping out no one will even remember, so they may as well have not put something out at all
People are acting like Dre owes us something too, all like, "he's messed us around enough, he needs to drop it now". It's not the kind of situation where like Dre told you he was going to meet you at Dunkin Donuts and then ditched your ass, we're not on good buddy terms with Dre, he doesn't owe us an album
If it's a classic then it'll have lived up to expectations, because people are expecting a classic. Just being better than every album of the past couple of years will be good enough IMO
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lol@people dissing snoops album record. nigga been in the game for 15 years still going strong, most cats can only dream of having a record like snoop and still be relavent. Comparing dres albums to snoop is not smart either because dre is a producing legend who drops an album once in a minute, snoop is a rapper whos life expectant is meant to be real short but the fact nigga been in the game so long only nas and jigga can compare there records to him in terms of relavence and status shows how much of a legend snoop is.
About dre, someone spoke truth about him not being able to meet expectations, whatever he drops, people will want more but if its a classic he drops nobody will say shit but give him his props in the end. Also every classic dre and snoop have made, they have been part of, so snoop is probably just annoyed like anyone else about when the muthafucker is gonna drop because snoop knows he will be a part of it. Detox will never be right without snoop and dre knows this. You can talk about the direction all you want but in the end its going to be music and dre will have some funky ass beats and hot shit on there for snoop to spit on. Imagine did not make the cut because 1- its never anywhere close to detox material, joint is aight at most, the beat is boring and slow and it that was what detox was meant to sound like it would have been on detox. The fact that it also got delayed and pushed back meant dre knew people were not diggin the sound so his been swtiching shit up in the studio. Bishop said in a interview recently that he doesnt even know what dre shit will be on his album because dre has come back and said "i got better shit, new shit" so ofcourse dre knew he will have to step his own game up.
I for one will be coppin detox when it drops as i am sure many others will and hope it will have snoop on it. as a duo they are untouchable.
About the comments, they were hilarious, snoop is a funny muhfucka. ....
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It was funny but the truth is Snoop did sound a bit bitter and it looks more and more to me that he might not be a part of Detox if he continues to make comments like these, and the fact is that Dre does not need Snoop to make a classic album
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Yeah, Dre needs to learn from Snoop and churn out 3-4 mediocre albums in the time it's taken for Detox to be made, sounds like a plan
LOL... i think snoop is hurtin he aint gon be the main character as in 2001 but i do agree dre is afraid it wont live up to the expectations. but hey its not like dre is been sittin on his ass . hes been behind the boards and sucess of eminem,50, game since 2001, and in 06 he helped jigga out, hooked up wit snoop again in 06 and is currently workin wit bishop so we cant say he been lazy he's hard at work and another reason why he takin so long is cuz he afraid to retire cuz he supposed to retire after detox
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Yeah, Dre needs to learn from Snoop and churn out 3-4 mediocre albums in the time it's taken for Detox to be made, sounds like a plan
Snoops just mad cause he havent been asked to come to the studio yet...
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Yeah, Dre needs to learn from Snoop and churn out 3-4 mediocre albums in the time it's taken for Detox to be made, sounds like a plan
Snoops just mad cause he havent been asked to come to the studio yet...
LOL!! Snoop's probably salty cuz he found out Crooked I might be on it.
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It was funny but the truth is Snoop did sound a bit bitter and it looks more and more to me that he might not be a part of Detox if he continues to make comments like these, and the fact is that Dre does not need Snoop to make a classic album
i wouldn't mind if snoop isn't on it at all :D
like you said, Dre doesn't need him.
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I for one will be coppin detox when it drops as i am sure many others will and hope it will have snoop on it. as a duo they are untouchable.
No worries there. From the beggining Snoop, Em and Bishop's appearences were set in stone. Dre's main protoge's for each era he drops an album.
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LOL.... Somebody need to pass Dre the blunt!
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It was funny but the truth is Snoop did sound a bit bitter and it looks more and more to me that he might not be a part of Detox if he continues to make comments like these, and the fact is that Dre does not need Snoop to make a classic album
Detox with out Snoop = Wack
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It was funny but the truth is Snoop did sound a bit bitter and it looks more and more to me that he might not be a part of Detox if he continues to make comments like these, and the fact is that Dre does not need Snoop to make a classic album
i wouldn't mind if snoop isn't on it at all :D
like you said, Dre doesn't need him.
Okay, why don't you mention all the classic Dre solo albums without Snoop on it? None. Don't get me wrong, I'm a very big fan of Dre's but a Dre album without Snoop wouldn't be the same. They make classics together. I even think Hittman once mentioned in an interview that they started making 2001 without The Chronic "gang" (Snoop, Nate, Kurupt and so on) involved but they realised that it wouldn't be the same without them.
Another thing - Dre needs Snoop for the singles, the same with Eminem (& maybe 50 wether you like it or not) Bishop Lamont has very little mainstream appeal.
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Sounds like Snoop ain't even workin on "Detox", real fucked up, if that's true. It's been a long time since Dre dropped an album, but even he said "I do it because I want to not to stay in the game" (Hello).
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I'm a very big fan of Dre's but a Dre album without Snoop wouldn't be the same.
Another thing - Dre needs Snoop for the singles, the same with Eminem (& maybe 50 wether you like it or not) Bishop Lamont has very little mainstream appeal.
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It was funny but the truth is Snoop did sound a bit bitter and it looks more and more to me that he might not be a part of Detox if he continues to make comments like these, and the fact is that Dre does not need Snoop to make a classic album
i wouldn't mind if snoop isn't on it at all :D
like you said, Dre doesn't need him.
Okay, why don't you mention all the classic Dre solo albums without Snoop on it? None. Don't get me wrong, I'm a very big fan of Dre's but a Dre album without Snoop wouldn't be the same. They make classics together. I even think Hittman once mentioned in an interview that they started making 2001 without The Chronic "gang" (Snoop, Nate, Kurupt and so on) involved but they realised that it wouldn't be the same without them.
straight outta compton & niggaz4life were created without snoop; no they are not official Dre soloalbums but each track features Dre production.
and there were many reasons why 2001 & The Chronic were great, and Snoop is not the main one ( especially on 2001).
Another thing - Dre needs Snoop for the singles, the same with Eminem (& maybe 50 wether you like it or not) Bishop Lamont has very little mainstream appeal.
why does Dre necessarily need Snoop for a single? like you said, he already got Eminem & 50, who sell better solowise anyway, so there goes your sales argument.
by the way:
i wouldn't mind if snoop isn't on it at all :D
like you said, Dre doesn't need him.
i didn't say that i don't want snoop on there, but i said that Dre doesn't need snoop to make Detox a great album.
whether you like it or not, Detox won't be a chronic 3.
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Snoops commercail appeal is at an all time low, why would Dre need Snoop for singles? This album will sell 2 million easily with or without Snoop, I much rather see Kurupt, Rage, RBX on it
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Snoops commercail appeal is at an all time low, why would Dre need Snoop for singles? This album will sell 2 million easily with or without Snoop, I much rather see Kurupt, Rage, RBX on it
not to mention that it's been a long time since The Chronic and Doggystyle ( Snoop's peak).
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Trust me guys... Dre will not release DETOX without Snoop, Em and Bishop.
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Snoops commercail appeal is at an all time low, why would Dre need Snoop for singles? This album will sell 2 million easily with or without Snoop, I much rather see Kurupt, Rage, RBX on it
not to mention that it's been a long time since The Chronic and Doggystyle ( Snoop's peak).
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exactly, this is 2008, I love the 90's my favorite era and the best hiphop ever was recorded in that period IMO, but we have to move on and not try to recreate it
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I wasn't feeling Snoop on 2001 to be honest, his verses were pretty tired and lackluster
If he's on Detox I hope Dre gets him to spit harder - a lot of the criticism when 2001 came out was that the beats were dope but the vocals were kind of meh, so Dre will probably try to be stepping that up this time round
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50,em,bishop,snoop and busta rhymes are obviously gonna be on it.
then i'm pretty sure there will be mary j blige, marsha of floetry, and maybe stat quo
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50,em,bishop,snoop and busta rhymes are obviously gonna be on it.
then i'm pretty sure there will be mary j blige, marsha of floetry, and maybe stat quo
50 and Busta are not gonna be on it.
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50,em,bishop,snoop and busta rhymes are obviously gonna be on it.
then i'm pretty sure there will be mary j blige, marsha of floetry, and maybe stat quo
50 and Busta are not gonna be on it.
50 will be on it no matter how much no one wants him on there..
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Game's gonna be on it too :) lol. If not, Me, one of Dre's biggest fans will be dissapointed. period. If he choses to NOT record a track with GAME because of stupid curtis and Jimmy.
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yeah game would be cool on detox on a westcoast track with snoop, warren g, nate dogg...
When you hear game on tracks like "big dreams", its sounds like he could make a great appearance on a heavy dre beat (with DOC writing some real shit for him)
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50,em,bishop,snoop and busta rhymes are obviously gonna be on it.
then i'm pretty sure there will be mary j blige, marsha of floetry, and maybe stat quo
50 and Busta are not gonna be on it.
50 will be on it no matter how much no one wants him on there..
No he won't. I've got confirmed reports that he won't.
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i believe you rebel, well i hope anyway.
As for not needing snoop, that is bullshit, dogystyle, chronic and 2001 were all classics and a HUGE part of all them were snoop...and ofcourse dre without question but snoop played huge roles in them albums, anyone denying this dont know shit. Dre know snoop needs to be on it and snoop knows he will be wanted on it. End of Fucking Story
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i believe you rebel, well i hope anyway.
As for not needing snoop, that is bullshit, dogystyle, chronic and 2001 were all classics and a HUGE part of all them were snoop...and ofcourse dre without question but snoop played huge roles in them albums, anyone denying this dont know shit. Dre know snoop needs to be on it and snoop knows he will be wanted on it. End of Fucking Story
i love it when somebody's music taste influences his/her reasonable thinking.
Snoops commercial appeal is at an all time low, why would Dre need Snoop for singles
so as far as sales, he's not needed.
then contentwise, what can snoop contribute to the lyrics/concept what can't be done by the core Detox team?
so again, why i snoop needed?
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i believe you rebel, well i hope anyway.
As for not needing snoop, that is bullshit, dogystyle, chronic and 2001 were all classics and a HUGE part of all them were snoop...and ofcourse dre without question but snoop played huge roles in them albums, anyone denying this dont know shit. Dre know snoop needs to be on it and snoop knows he will be wanted on it. End of Fucking Story
i love it when somebody's music taste influences his/her reasonable thinking.
Snoops commercial appeal is at an all time low, why would Dre need Snoop for singles
so as far as sales, he's not needed.
then contentwise, what can snoop contribute to the lyrics/concept what can't be done by the core Detox team?
so again, why i snoop needed?
Snoop is needed 'cause he was Dre's original main protoge. The whole "Batman & Robin" aspect of his story started with Snoop. Does this really need to be explained? Doesn't "Deep Cover", "Nuthin' But a G-Thang", "The Wash", "The Next Episode" and many other songs say enough? Dr. Dre has brought out and worked with many artists in his career. But with each era of Dre's solo story (e.g. his solo albums and the music that directly surrounds it), Dre brings out a "main Robin-type" artist that stands out (like a partner in crime, so to speak). When Dre brought us "The Chronic", Snoop was his right hand man. He was the original and will always have that unique relationship with Dre. "Doggystyle" was part of that "Chronic" era. The music says it all. When time came for "Chronic 2001", Eminem carried that role (mind you, this takes NOTHING away from Snoop, just a continuation of the Dr. Dre story). "The Marshall Mathers LP" was a part of the "2001" era, as well. If and when Dre closes his solo trilogy with "DETOX", Bishop Lamont is being groomed to be that last "Robin" to Dre's "Batman". I reckon that "The Reformation" will be part of the "DETOX" era.... we'll see I guess.
...and that is why I'm saying that there will be no DETOX without Snoop, Em and Bishop. 'Cause those 3 protoges are the most imortant artists to Dre when it comes to his story... and the good doctor is aware of this.
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i believe you rebel, well i hope anyway.
As for not needing snoop, that is bullshit, dogystyle, chronic and 2001 were all classics and a HUGE part of all them were snoop...and ofcourse dre without question but snoop played huge roles in them albums, anyone denying this dont know shit. Dre know snoop needs to be on it and snoop knows he will be wanted on it. End of Fucking Story
i love it when somebody's music taste influences his/her reasonable thinking.
Snoops commercial appeal is at an all time low, why would Dre need Snoop for singles
so as far as sales, he's not needed.
then contentwise, what can snoop contribute to the lyrics/concept what can't be done by the core Detox team?
so again, why i snoop needed?
Snoop is needed 'cause he was Dre's original main protoge. The whole "Batman & Robin" aspect of his story started with Snoop. Does this really need to be explained? Doesn't "Deep Cover", "Nuthin' But a G-Thang", "The Wash", "The Next Episode" and many other songs say enough? Dr. Dre has brought out and worked with many artists in his career. But with each era of Dre's solo story (e.g. his solo albums and the music that directly surrounds it), Dre brings out a "main Robin-type" artist that stands out (like a partner in crime, so to speak). When Dre brought us "The Chronic", Snoop was his right hand man. He was the original and will always have that unique relationship with Dre. "Doggystyle" was part of that "Chronic" era. The music says it all. When time came for "Chronic 2001", Eminem carried that role (mind you, this takes NOTHING away from Snoop, just a continuation of the Dr. Dre story). "The Marshall Mathers LP" was a part of the "2001" era, as well. If and when Dre closes his solo trilogy with "DETOX", Bishop Lamont is being groomed to be that last "Robin" to Dre's "Batman". I reckon that "The Reformation" will be part of the "DETOX" era.... we'll see I guess.
...and that is why I'm saying that there will be no DETOX without Snoop, Em and Bishop. 'Cause those 3 protoges are the most imortant artists to Dre when it comes to his story... and the good doctor is aware of this.
you're only coming with a few subjective arguments.
and you even said it yourself, Snoop wasn't dre's "right hand mand" on 2001, like he was on the Chronic.
i didn't mind at all that snoop was on 2001, but i don't need to see another recreation of a once great formula, for Detox.
that's why i said that Dre don't need Snoop to make Detox a success.
yes that statement is subjective too, but i backed it up with facts, together with HighEyeCue.
unlike Lyrical G, who backed up his statement with biased bullshit.
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i believe you rebel, well i hope anyway.
As for not needing snoop, that is bullshit, dogystyle, chronic and 2001 were all classics and a HUGE part of all them were snoop...and ofcourse dre without question but snoop played huge roles in them albums, anyone denying this dont know shit. Dre know snoop needs to be on it and snoop knows he will be wanted on it. End of Fucking Story
i love it when somebody's music taste influences his/her reasonable thinking.
Snoops commercial appeal is at an all time low, why would Dre need Snoop for singles
so as far as sales, he's not needed.
then contentwise, what can snoop contribute to the lyrics/concept what can't be done by the core Detox team?
so again, why i snoop needed?
Snoop is needed 'cause he was Dre's original main protoge. The whole "Batman & Robin" aspect of his story started with Snoop. Does this really need to be explained? Doesn't "Deep Cover", "Nuthin' But a G-Thang", "The Wash", "The Next Episode" and many other songs say enough? Dr. Dre has brought out and worked with many artists in his career. But with each era of Dre's solo story (e.g. his solo albums and the music that directly surrounds it), Dre brings out a "main Robin-type" artist that stands out (like a partner in crime, so to speak). When Dre brought us "The Chronic", Snoop was his right hand man. He was the original and will always have that unique relationship with Dre. "Doggystyle" was part of that "Chronic" era. The music says it all. When time came for "Chronic 2001", Eminem carried that role (mind you, this takes NOTHING away from Snoop, just a continuation of the Dr. Dre story). "The Marshall Mathers LP" was a part of the "2001" era, as well. If and when Dre closes his solo trilogy with "DETOX", Bishop Lamont is being groomed to be that last "Robin" to Dre's "Batman". I reckon that "The Reformation" will be part of the "DETOX" era.... we'll see I guess.
...and that is why I'm saying that there will be no DETOX without Snoop, Em and Bishop. 'Cause those 3 protoges are the most imortant artists to Dre when it comes to his story... and the good doctor is aware of this.
you're only coming with a few subjective arguments.
and you even said it yourself, Snoop wasn't dre's "right hand mand" on 2001, like he was on the Chronic.
i didn't mind at all that snoop was on 2001, but i don't need to see another recreation of a once great formula, for Detox.
that's why i said that Dre don't need Snoop to make Detox a success.
yes that statement is subjective too, but i backed it up with facts, together with HighEyeCue.
unlike Lyrical G, who backed up his statement with biased bullshit.
Haha Dude, you need to chill man. This is just a discussion relating to an artist and his music. Nobody is arguing.
First off, where did I say that "Snoop wasn't dre's right hand mand on 2001"? If anything, I enforced the exact opposite by making it clear that Em's position did not take ANYTHING AWAY from Snoop. The same how Bishop's wont take anything away from Snoop or Em. And this isn't about recreating a formula 'cause that formula has already been put in place and exists in the music history, feel me?
But in the end, this is only my opinion. And its not that big of a deal :)
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i believe you rebel, well i hope anyway.
As for not needing snoop, that is bullshit, dogystyle, chronic and 2001 were all classics and a HUGE part of all them were snoop...and ofcourse dre without question but snoop played huge roles in them albums, anyone denying this dont know shit. Dre know snoop needs to be on it and snoop knows he will be wanted on it. End of Fucking Story
i love it when somebody's music taste influences his/her reasonable thinking.
Snoops commercial appeal is at an all time low, why would Dre need Snoop for singles
so as far as sales, he's not needed.
then contentwise, what can snoop contribute to the lyrics/concept what can't be done by the core Detox team?
so again, why i snoop needed?
Snoop is needed 'cause he was Dre's original main protoge. The whole "Batman & Robin" aspect of his story started with Snoop. Does this really need to be explained? Doesn't "Deep Cover", "Nuthin' But a G-Thang", "The Wash", "The Next Episode" and many other songs say enough? Dr. Dre has brought out and worked with many artists in his career. But with each era of Dre's solo story (e.g. his solo albums and the music that directly surrounds it), Dre brings out a "main Robin-type" artist that stands out (like a partner in crime, so to speak). When Dre brought us "The Chronic", Snoop was his right hand man. He was the original and will always have that unique relationship with Dre. "Doggystyle" was part of that "Chronic" era. The music says it all. When time came for "Chronic 2001", Eminem carried that role (mind you, this takes NOTHING away from Snoop, just a continuation of the Dr. Dre story). "The Marshall Mathers LP" was a part of the "2001" era, as well. If and when Dre closes his solo trilogy with "DETOX", Bishop Lamont is being groomed to be that last "Robin" to Dre's "Batman". I reckon that "The Reformation" will be part of the "DETOX" era.... we'll see I guess.
...and that is why I'm saying that there will be no DETOX without Snoop, Em and Bishop. 'Cause those 3 protoges are the most imortant artists to Dre when it comes to his story... and the good doctor is aware of this.
you're only coming with a few subjective arguments.
and you even said it yourself, Snoop wasn't dre's "right hand mand" on 2001, like he was on the Chronic.
i didn't mind at all that snoop was on 2001, but i don't need to see another recreation of a once great formula, for Detox.
that's why i said that Dre don't need Snoop to make Detox a success.
yes that statement is subjective too, but i backed it up with facts, together with HighEyeCue.
unlike Lyrical G, who backed up his statement with biased bullshit.
Haha Dude, you need to chill man. This is just a discussion relating to an artist and his music. Nobody is arguing.
First off, where did I say that "Snoop wasn't dre's right hand mand on 2001"? I
well you sort of said that; and it's true, cause hittman was featured on several tracks, just not on any of the singles. my bad if i caused any confusion.
sure Eminem and Snoop had their own roles on 2001; i was just stating that Snoop's role is a lot smaller on 2001 than it was on the Chronic.
And this isn't about recreating a formula 'cause that formula has already been put in place and exists in the music history, feel me?
But in the end, this is only my opinion. And its not that big of a deal :)
well i like a lot of the things that they've done together.
but i think a snoop & dre collabo will be another recreation of an old formula.
true Imagine was a bit different, but thanks to who? the D.O.C. right? ;)
and i respect that you disagree with me, i just thought that you were trying to convince me in your previous post.
my previous post was mainly a response to Lyrical G, since he was being biased and disrespectful again
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Dre-Day - officer of the Kill Jimmy Iovine Movement and Rebel, i think you are both right in a sense. And you both know what your talking about obviously : first one made that huge detox thread and collected all the infos about the project + the kill jimmy movement says it all, second is the boss of aftermathmusic forum so...You are not the average dre fan.
Anyway, i aint here to suck your dicks
When i read your comments i don't see any false statement. Just two point of views which i both agree.
Cause yeah snoop always played a major role in dre's music and success. Snoop has made so many hits with dre, we can't even count. From nuthing but a g thang to still dre (the biggest singles that introduced the chronic and 2001), they got that classic chemistry. So, that being said. Alot of people are expecting Dre to come with snoop. Cause it has always been like that. They still friends. So its all good. That would be a mistake if snoop was not on detox because he represents something, he voice fits good on dre beats, and alot of fans might be dissapointing not to see him there.
To conclude, Dre chose Snoop over Busta for something... It has that old school revival feeling of a "dre and snoop" classic material.
On the other hand, i agree that Snoop is not NEEDED. Times have changed and snoop is now a pop star, he's not so close to dre as they used to be.
And dre has so much people working with him that he doesnt need anyone in particular. He doesnt need mike elizondo, he doesnt need melman, he doesnt need DOC...
He could do a crazy album without them but they are all a bonus, they all add their ideas to the project.
To me snoop is not more important than DOC, bishop, hittman, focus, elizondo, melman, eminem...etc speaking of music quality.
but speaking of making history and please fan, yeah Snoop is more important than most of those.
peace to all the detox nerds like me ;D
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Snoop is needed 'cause he was Dre's original main protoge.
The whole "Batman & Robin" aspect of his story started with Snoop.
Does this really need to be explained?
Doesn't "Deep Cover", "Nuthin' But a G-Thang", "The Wash", "The Next Episode" and many other songs say enough?
I see your point,but I see every album that Dre has produced from top to bottom as Dre "solo" album.
...And like this review says;
Dre exchanges rhymes with Snoop like he did with Ren,and you get the feeling theyīre in perfect sync.
Dr.Dre Magazine Scans thread. *Interviews,reviews etc.*
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=150824.0
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1034/973252159_6229fdf124_b.jpg)
So if this theory should be supported,Ren is the "original Robin" ;).
But as I said I see what youīre saying,but had to bring that to your attention ;)
Why donīt the serious cats in here that got more to say about Detox than the usual bullshit join this thread instead;
The serious DETOX thread: what are y'all hoping for?
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=150187.0
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i believe you rebel, well i hope anyway.
As for not needing snoop, that is bullshit, dogystyle, chronic and 2001 were all classics and a HUGE part of all them were snoop...and ofcourse dre without question but snoop played huge roles in them albums, anyone denying this dont know shit. Dre know snoop needs to be on it and snoop knows he will be wanted on it. End of Fucking Story
i love it when somebody's music taste influences his/her reasonable thinking.
Snoops commercial appeal is at an all time low, why would Dre need Snoop for singles
so as far as sales, he's not needed.
then contentwise, what can snoop contribute to the lyrics/concept what can't be done by the core Detox team?
so again, why i snoop needed?
Dude you be always tallking shiiiit and are you a girl? Cuz you seem to get hurt real quick everytime i post because i notice my karma gettin lower with each time i say something that 'hurts' you. Now you say my statement is biased? Why? Because snoop and dre create the best shit together? lol...okay....you say snoop is not needed because he has eminem and 50 anyway? Lmao...you serious about that? eminem has been wack for 6-7 years and 50 is like afalling brick. Snoop and Dre never fail to create. Detox is just a title name, u think snoop will not be on it whatever direction they choose to go? Same like eminem, whatever garbage the cat been doing forever since MMLP dropped he will be on detox after his performances on 2001. Snoop will be on it because he was the star on chronic and on 2001 he has some show stoppers like next episode and his hook on still dre...what bullshit am i speakin? Son dont bother speaking to me about hiphop cuz you aint on my level. The newbies do not know. Now go diss me,lol....
im out my lil bitch
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i believe you rebel, well i hope anyway.
As for not needing snoop, that is bullshit, dogystyle, chronic and 2001 were all classics and a HUGE part of all them were snoop...and ofcourse dre without question but snoop played huge roles in them albums, anyone denying this dont know shit. Dre know snoop needs to be on it and snoop knows he will be wanted on it. End of Fucking Story
i love it when somebody's music taste influences his/her reasonable thinking.
Snoops commercial appeal is at an all time low, why would Dre need Snoop for singles
so as far as sales, he's not needed.
then contentwise, what can snoop contribute to the lyrics/concept what can't be done by the core Detox team?
so again, why i snoop needed?
Snoop is needed 'cause he was Dre's original main protoge. The whole "Batman & Robin" aspect of his story started with Snoop. Does this really need to be explained? Doesn't "Deep Cover", "Nuthin' But a G-Thang", "The Wash", "The Next Episode" and many other songs say enough? Dr. Dre has brought out and worked with many artists in his career. But with each era of Dre's solo story (e.g. his solo albums and the music that directly surrounds it), Dre brings out a "main Robin-type" artist that stands out (like a partner in crime, so to speak). When Dre brought us "The Chronic", Snoop was his right hand man. He was the original and will always have that unique relationship with Dre. "Doggystyle" was part of that "Chronic" era. The music says it all. When time came for "Chronic 2001", Eminem carried that role (mind you, this takes NOTHING away from Snoop, just a continuation of the Dr. Dre story). "The Marshall Mathers LP" was a part of the "2001" era, as well. If and when Dre closes his solo trilogy with "DETOX", Bishop Lamont is being groomed to be that last "Robin" to Dre's "Batman". I reckon that "The Reformation" will be part of the "DETOX" era.... we'll see I guess.
...and that is why I'm saying that there will be no DETOX without Snoop, Em and Bishop. 'Cause those 3 protoges are the most imortant artists to Dre when it comes to his story... and the good doctor is aware of this.
true story
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i believe you rebel, well i hope anyway.
As for not needing snoop, that is bullshit, dogystyle, chronic and 2001 were all classics and a HUGE part of all them were snoop...and ofcourse dre without question but snoop played huge roles in them albums, anyone denying this dont know shit. Dre know snoop needs to be on it and snoop knows he will be wanted on it. End of Fucking Story
i love it when somebody's music taste influences his/her reasonable thinking.
Snoops commercial appeal is at an all time low, why would Dre need Snoop for singles
so as far as sales, he's not needed.
then contentwise, what can snoop contribute to the lyrics/concept what can't be done by the core Detox team?
so again, why i snoop needed?
Dude you be always tallking shiiiit and are you a girl? Cuz you seem to get hurt real quick everytime i post because i notice my karma gettin lower with each time i say something that 'hurts' you. Now you say my statement is biased? Why? Because snoop and dre create the best shit together? lol...okay....you say snoop is not needed because he has eminem and 50 anyway? Lmao...you serious about that? eminem has been wack for 6-7 years and 50 is like afalling brick. Snoop and Dre never fail to create. Detox is just a title name, u think snoop will not be on it whatever direction they choose to go? Same like eminem, whatever garbage the cat been doing forever since MMLP dropped he will be on detox after his performances on 2001. Snoop will be on it because he was the star on chronic and on 2001 he has some show stoppers like next episode and his hook on still dre...what bullshit am i speakin? Son dont bother speaking to me about hiphop cuz you aint on my level. The newbies do not know. Now go diss me,lol....
im out my lil bitch
why are you being ignorant? i backed up my statement, so why don't you reply to it in a constructive way in stead of doing personal attacks(you claim to know a lot more about hiphop than me; it might be true, but wouldn't it be great if you used your knowlegde to back up your statements in a constructive way)?
i can't help it that you can't handle criticism and your response only proved how biased you are.
besides, if you're going to respond to my statements, then at least read it properly before judging.