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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: westside159 on March 31, 2008, 04:43:12 AM
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i think Deathrow & the Police were in on this shit most certainly , its too crazy , how can the man that snatched a deathrow chain Anderson " at a mall in Cali be at all places in Las vegas right in the same place 2 pac & deathrow were and the bodyguards didnt have guns on them and suge knight doesnt get a scatch come on man thats CRAZY !!!!!!! SPEAK ON IT HOMIE DONT BE SCARED !!!!! 8) 8)
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What yall think will it ever be solved ?
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I dont think death row was involved,but it will never be solved
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I dont think death row was involved,but it will never be solved
Why wasnt deathrow involved ? The greatest tricc the devil ever pulled , was covincing the world he didn't exist . Think about that and really look at the whole picture homie !!
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WE WILL ALL HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONZ ON THIZ SO LETS NOT GET TA BEEFIN AIIGHT
PAC WAS NOT STUPID
AND AFENI NEVER DISCREDITED CHECK PHILLIPS EVEN IN 2003 WHEN HIS 1ST ARTICLE CAME OUT
WHEN THEREZ SMOKE THEREZ FIRE
BUFFY PIDDY WHATEVER SMELLZ SUSPECT AND ALWAYS WILL
SUGEZ BODYGUARD N FRIEND JAKE ROBLES WAS KILLED AT A BADBOY SOSODEF PARTY AND SINCE THEN ITZ BEEN ON
BIGGIE GOT CAUGHT UP IN ALL DAT CHIT AND DIED FOR IT
BUT NEW YORK WILL NEVER GIVE US OUR FULL PROPS CAUSE THEIR KING WAS KILLED OUT WEST
FUCK IT STILL WE RISE AZ MY CUZIN ALWAYS SAYZ
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Man do you know how much power Suge Knight had homie ? He had dudes that were tied in with the Compton police chiefs and all kinds of shit and one of 2 pacs bodyguards said he heard right after the shooting on a cell phone of a head deathrow member "We got Him" , why would he make that up ? Its deeper than you think .
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Suge had the motive and the power.
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Snoop even said it .
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Both murders were solved years ago by a Detective named Russell Poole.
But if you've ever watched "The Wire" on HBO,
you will understand why these murders will never lead to a conviction.
Most people in the Los Angeles area stopped asking about it, cause they already know.
If you too want to know, read a book called "LAbryinth."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Poole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Poole)
I read it.
and I let GOD handle it.
Peace & Respect.
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props for the info about that book sheist 8)
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BTW.. If you've watched this final season of "The Wire"
you will understand why Chucks Phillips' word aint worth sh*t!
Furthermore, cause I said it aint.. He involved me in this situation
when I have NO involvement whatsoever..
Why write a piece on me trying to discredit my success,
just cause my main producer didn't want a quote in the paper regarding the murder of Pac?
Shows you how relevant I am in this game.. for the West that is.
I work with the best - I work around the best - I'm involved in matters concerning the best.
The Only Westcoast Artist Other Than 2pac and Dr.Dre to Make the Cover of The L.A. Times.
But I did it Twice.
I just wish it didn't have to be centered around the death of one of my favorite artists.
FUCK CHUCK PHILLIPS.
OH CHIIIIT
WORD?
AIIGHT
WHATZ UP WITH THE WIRE SHOW HOMZ?
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how is this the biggest unsolved murder in history?
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Spider Loc - When We Ride On Our Enemies
"Im in the streets while you are talking from the outside and pac died because he was fucking with them southsides"
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Furthermore, cause I said it aint.. He involved me in this situation
when I have NO involvement whatsoever..
Why write a piece on me trying to discredit my success,
just cause my main producer didn't want a quote in the paper regarding the murder of Pac?
The Only Westcoast Artist Other Than 2pac and Dr.Dre to Make the Cover of The L.A. Times.
But I did it Twice.
Shade how did "he" involve you in this situation??
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mc eiht did it
dude was so mad quik slapped him around... backed by suge and deathrow ...and he got no love from Tragniew so he had to proove that he is real 8)
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Man do you know how much power Suge Knight had homie ? He had dudes that were tied in with the Compton police chiefs and all kinds of shit and one of 2 pacs bodyguards said he heard right after the shooting on a cell phone of a head deathrow member "We got Him" , why would he make that up ? Its deeper than you think .
Fool stop believin that documentary. I know which one youre talking about. Its all fake to get money homie think with your brain. Every DVD they come up with "new information" because they wanna sell DVD's, Books etc etc. Its all fake it wasn't Suge. It was either the police/goverment or them Southside cats.
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ITS LIKE THAT COMEDIAN SAID
"IF U EVER KILL SOM1, PUT A DEMO TAPE IN THEIR JACKET, CAUS THOS NEVER SOLVED"
OR SOMTHIN LIKE THAT
RIP
DPGC23
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Shit man. Shade who did it? I dont think they sell that book no more.
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I work with the best - I work around the best - I'm involved in matters concerning the best.
its not something to be proud of,this time....
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suge knight because pac wanted to leave n shit
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I work with the best - I work around the best - I'm involved in matters concerning the best.
its not something to be proud of,this time....
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c167/PYOINC/times72.jpg)
Who is proud? That wasn't bragging.. I was just stating public factual information in regard to a point I was making.
Chuck Phillips helped my career.. He just did it in a fu*ked up way.. That was MY POINT.
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i dont think suge killed him.
pac fucked with a wrong one while reppin MOB and got killed.like spider said (im not a spider loc fan).
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(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c167/PYOINC/times72.jpg)
any chance of a bigger version of that? wouldn't mind reading the article.
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Orlando Anderson
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2pac was gunna leave deathrow, Suge heard about it and thought "shit, how the hell am i still gunna make money off this platinum selling artist?"
Suge hired some blood policemen, to murder pac while he was still under Deathrow. That way Suge can still put out cd's by him with that Deathrow sticker still on there to
continue making money off pac's name.
BIG was still in the game and Suge wasnt gunna have BIG take all the fame now that Pac is dead. He called up Puffy and said, "listen nigga, im killin your main man, BIG."
Puff was like, "Fuck you nigga you cant do that shit, hes mine."
Suge was like, " Nigga fuck you, I kill you, or hang you off a balcony or someshit."
Puff was shook and decided that since Suge was so powerful he couldnt do anything about it.
So suge hired some more crooked police to go shoot up BIG.
Once the police investigated the murders and found out that their own force killed these innocent rappers, it would look bad on them so they decided to keep in under raps.
And thats why no one has really talked about it since.
ThE END.
RIP BIGGIE AND 2PAC
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Both murders were solved years ago by a Detective named Russell Poole.
But if you've ever watched "The Wire" on HBO,
you will understand why these murders will never lead to a conviction.
Most people in the Los Angeles area stopped asking about it, cause they already know.
If you too want to know, read a book called "LAbryinth."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Poole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Poole)
I read it.
and I let GOD handle it.
Peace & Respect.
Although that book is as entertaining as it is informative it still doesn't hold the key to whoever was responsible for the deaths of Biggie and/or 2Pac. People who can't find the book or think reading is a waste of time can just view Nick Broomfield's Biggie & Tupac documentary as it essentially covers Poole's theory to who is responsible.
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Orlando Anderson
AKA OBG Lane
End of story.
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2pac was gunna leave deathrow, Suge heard about it and thought "shit, how the hell am i still gunna make money off this platinum selling artist?"
Suge hired some blood policemen, to murder pac while he was still under Deathrow. That way Suge can still put out cd's by him with that Deathrow sticker still on there to
continue making money off pac's name.
BIG was still in the game and Suge wasnt gunna have BIG take all the fame now that Pac is dead. He called up Puffy and said, "listen nigga, im killin your main man, BIG."
Puff was like, "Fuck you nigga you cant do that shit, hes mine."
Suge was like, " Nigga fuck you, I kill you, or hang you off a balcony or someshit."
Puff was shook and decided that since Suge was so powerful he couldnt do anything about it.
So suge hired some more crooked police to go shoot up BIG.
Once the police investigated the murders and found out that their own force killed these innocent rappers, it would look bad on them so they decided to keep in under raps.
And thats why no one has really talked about it since.
ThE END.
RIP BIGGIE AND 2PAC
WRONG. He was gonna start his own label THROUGH DEATH ROW/INTERSCOPE. He wasn't gonna leave.
Media keep brainwashing yall dudes.
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As Snoop said, "The guy who sat next to him." (Suge Knight) That's who killed Pac.
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is it 1997???
im confused
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http://www.youtube.com/v/Ai7sFxfY6RU
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As Snoop said, "The guy who sat next to him." (Suge Knight) That's who killed Pac.
Looool dont tell me, you watched that Youtube clip?
People believe everything these days. Any proof that
Snoop said that?
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I dont know why , but ive been really thinkin about this shit , i wanna know before my last day , becuz it was so clever how they killed him and disapeared into then air without anybody saying anything , and the most creepy thing about it is Suge Knight doesnt get hurt with all those bullets close up like that , if they were Crips they would have got Suge trust me !!!!!
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I know how some ppl hate it when ppl that were still little kids when Pac was shot, analyze shit about him and ride for him. ;D
with that said, I was 8 years old, and have nothing further to add. ;)
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Once again if the killers were Crips , Suge's big ass would have been shot up too !!!! FACT
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Suge Knight.
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they had some special on tv last night about the jam master jay murder too. its been nearly 12 years and if we don't know by now we probably never will. nobody wanted to talk or identify the shooter but Kadafi. I'm chasing that fuckin car down flamingo towards I15 if I'm there. I mean how easy would that be to get the license plate and call 911, you wouldn't want to snitch though cause thats against the G code though am i right? like quik says on his song "now if you kill a rapper you will never get caught" true more times than not don't you think
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The person that could point out the killers got murdered , 2 pac's homeboy , and you would think the bodyguards would chase the car down after shooting the biggest rapper in america Come on man thats crazy !!!!!
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Didn't Suge catch a bullet in the head? I remember seeing that on the "2pac resurrection" dvd, and besides, 2pac roughed up a gang member at the venue, and that's probably why he got killed.
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I'm glad nobody's on that Pac ain't dead shit
R.I.P.
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if they were Crips they would have got Suge trust me !!!!!
thats point but i still think southside crips did it.
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Naw , suge would have been killed too that day if that were the case homie .
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yeah this is a weird mystery (if thats what you wanna call it, since some might know (suge), (snoop) shit even puff
but i dont understand how suge didnt get hit (crip or not)???
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We wouldnt even be having this conversation if 2 pacs bodyguards or somebody should have followed the car , thats crazy atleast follow them and get there license plates !!!
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.If you too want to know, read a book called "LAbryinth."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Poole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Poole)
I'm halfway through reading the book it's a good read, I knew LAPD were corrupt but I didn't realise
they were as bad as Russell Poole found out!
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Naw , suge would have been killed too that day if that were the case homie .
but on the other hand, suge was fuckin with crips too (dpgc) so it doesnt mean he must get killed if crips come across him.
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Orlando Anderson
AKA OBG Lane
End of story.
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did suge not get grazed in the head with a stray bullet?
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U think Suge did it - when they arrested this nigga how many times for some petty shit- How come aint nobody brought up that the feds was trailing the whole death Row entourage that night but they didn't get a license plates The Feds. Once again The Feds - They knew Pac was about 2 Be a problem - politically and socially. A lot of Strong black leaders have been dealt this blow - Martin, Malcom , Medgar Evers. Don't let the bullshit fool ya if Suge was responsible the homie would have been hemmed up. Believe that and stop believing that bullshit
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AKA OBG Lane
End of story.
WORD.
whats the deference between BG and OBG?lol.
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stop makin up theories he died because he hit some nobody-ass crip named baby lane and lane got mad and shot him.its crazy how pac died for a necklace that wasnt even his, it was trey´s nekclace.btw some info who that guy trey was or still is?
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stop makin up theories he died because he hit some nobody-ass crip named baby lane and lane got mad and shot him.its crazy how pac died for a necklace that wasnt even his, it was trey´s nekclace.btw some info who that guy trey was or still is?
The only people who say that are deathrow & suge supporters homeboy , you gotta be slow to belive that shit . Dont be stupid
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im not "suge supporter" but why would suge kill pac?
he wasnt goin to leave DR, his label shoulda worked thru DR.
i read what adidas said (whutsup with him now, why he aint posting no more) i dont think trey, neckbone, etc. killed pac i still believe baby lane killed him over that fight.it was some blood-crip shit, cause repped MOB and got in fight with baby lane for trey´s necklace.IMHO.
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The people that killed 2pac and Biggie are the same people who killed JFK, Bobby Kennedy, John Lennon, Princess Diana and UN weapons inspector Dr. Kelly...
Dre and many other people in the game (KRS-One, Nas and Cypress Hill) saw the danger of the Eastcoast/Westcoast rivalry being used by the shadow government as an excuse to 'trim' the more worrying elements of popular culture...
Once Pac was dead, they knew this would trigger Suge into taking action against Bad Boy and they allowed the slaying of B.I.G to occur...neatly playing the whole incident off as a "rap beef".
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Naw , suge would have been killed too that day if that were the case homie .
but on the other hand, suge was fuckin with crips too (dpgc) so it doesnt mean he must get killed if crips come across him.
lol ur hella funny for thinking they're real crips! they dont bang.
if they were Crips they would have got Suge trust me !!!!!
thats point but i still think southside crips did it.
yeah it was a conspiracy, it started with pac and ended with big
Suge didnt do it. Why would he get rid of his money maker?? theres no point to that, you gotta kno that suge would make more money with him alive then dead.
did suge not get grazed in the head with a stray bullet?
yeah he got hit too, think about it 2Pac was the main target they could give a fuck about suge. why u think he still alive now??
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Case closed this man didnt do it ok....
(http://vh1.cjb.net/~bryan/uncle%20phil.gif)
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Once again The Feds - They knew Pac was about 2 Be a problem - politically and socially. A lot of Strong black leaders have been dealt this blow - Martin, Malcom , Medgar Evers. Don't let the bullshit fool ya if Suge was responsible the homie would have been hemmed up. Believe that and stop believing that bullshit
Word.
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I know people will bash me for this but I have good reason to believe that Frank Siantra was involved in this. It was a known fact in the industry that he hated rap music and he had the mafia...so yeah,..there u go.
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think is just a gang story. obg lane killed him for the necklace story. that's all. there is no consipracy or i dont know what..
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^^ word.
you gotta kno that suge would make more money with him alive then dead.
thats what im sayin.
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what was the deal with Suge signing Tha Realest?
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I know people will bash me for this but I have good reason to believe that Frank Siantra was involved in this. It was a known fact in the industry that he hated rap music and he had the mafia...so yeah,..there u go.
LOL so just because he hated rap music he puts a hit out to kill a rapper? Plus he would've been like 80 years old when 2pac died. It was also a known fact that 2pac was a fan of Frank Sinatra as are other rappers such as Snoop etc.. now ain't that ironic
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i gotta agree with the government theory Pac had way too many people ridin for him and the government couldn't have liked that. the gang shit maybe but i have my doubts Pac was reppin hard for the West and had respect in damn near every set. To take out Pac was to take out their representative. If it was the gang shit why take out Pac and not Suge? Maybe they were gunnin for Suge and Pac took his bullets hmmmm
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i gotta agree with the government theory Pac had way too many people ridin for him and the government couldn't have liked that. the gang shit maybe but i have my doubts Pac was reppin hard for the West and had respect in damn near every set. To take out Pac was to take out their representative. If it was the gang shit why take out Pac and not Suge? Maybe they were gunnin for Suge and Pac took his bullets hmmmm
You said right homeboy , he got luv from the West Crips & bloods and Ese's , it wasnt no gang shit.
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what was the deal with Suge signing Tha Realest?
same with top dogg, he wanted to "replace" snoop and pac.i think thats all.
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And i bet yall didnt know Suge had a vest on under that big ass sweatshirt in las vegas ?
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Damn niggaz didnt ven know , yeah Suge wore a Bullet proof vest under his hot ass sweater that night .
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Case closed this man didnt do it ok....
(http://vh1.cjb.net/~bryan/uncle%20phil.gif)
LMFAO... 8) 8) 8)
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Suge would never put himself that close to gunfire on purpose, he almost died. He had nothing to do with it..Crazy to think there really are people out there who know who it was ( multiple people were in that car)..
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after adidas´"theory" it did the bloods.
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what happend to adidas?he has a lot knowledge if you ask me.he always drops that hood shit.hes netbangin a lil bit but still.
back 2 topic:
he sad Trey, Neckbone And Other Bloods Was Sittin In The Car And Suge´s People Did It, All The Lane-Thing Was Just Played. ??? ???
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but why would pac bang when he had money and fame already?and why would suge kill him?suge knew he could make money with pac even if pac would start makaveli records.
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and why would suge kill him?suge knew he could make money with pac even if pac would start makaveli records.
Do you really think 2Pac wouldn't take those money back that Suge owed him and didn't he try to take those mastertapes mut Suge denied him?
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The big Question - Who IS THE KILLER ? is he or she still out there livin it up ? Leave it up to the crooked police , we will never know !!
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pac mentions Tray and Neckbone in "2 live and die in l.a" tray is the dude whose chain got snatched by SSCC infront of foot locker store and adidas said they were in the car from one pac got shot.:confused:
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are there people that knew baby lane?yall claim that you knew him but i bet you never saw him.im talkin about ppl like shotgun and c-blue..
baby lane is the killer.cause he even mocked 2pac in the hood after he killed him.
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Man there bacc investigating this case i heard . I saw that movie Assassination the other day , the dude Kevin Hackie told reggie wright to take a Lie ditector test and he would put up 100,000 dollars . Damn the truth will come out soon .
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i dont kno if the truth gon come out ne time soon imean its been over a decade...+ i dont think the feds gon give a shit bout who killed one of the greatest hip hop icons of all time....either way RIP tupac....but what gets me is that pac was readin books on makaveli ( some guy from world war that said the best way to out do an enemy is to fake your death n shit ) before..he died n then he sayin that makaveli shit on albums after he gone.....
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stop makin up theories.it was simple
pac was reppin bloods, bloods got robber by lane and took the DR chain.
pac saw the guy and punched him infront of people.
the guy went for his gun and killed 2pac.
maybe crips called biggie and said: "whussup, give us one mill and we smoke pac" and biggie agreed.
baby lane killed pac for his own and plus got money from biggie
end of the story.
2pac went too far.
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yeah tahts the true story im sure too. orlando bg lane killed him just for the story of the dr necklace and the fight.
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yeah tahts the true story im sure too. orlando bg lane killed him just for the story of the dr necklace and the fight.
I know you dont really believe that right ? If you do , ill pray for you , Pac is looking down on his people with dissapointment . Damn shame its sad shit . ::) ::)
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me personally, i dont think that suge set him up/killed him.not because ima suge supporter but i dont think suge would do it, for what?he was gettn money off pac and they were friends aswell!"
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Keefey D
This is almost fact
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how is this the biggest unsolved murder in history?
it is one of em...well...that and the black dahlia..
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Keefey D
This is almost fact
who da fuck is keefey d?tell me more about it.
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me personally, i dont think that suge set him up/killed him.not because ima suge supporter but i dont think suge would do it, for what?he was gettn money off pac and they were friends aswell!"
Dude did you watch that movie ? Anybody with a sense knows it was foul play !! 2 pac & Suge got into a heated arugument about his money and taking pubulishing in shit and he was yelling MAKEVELI RECORDS , when the shit was over . Damn Pac had a right to be rappin about death & baccstabbers becuz thats who got him in the end . His so called homies and the crooked pigs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:(
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suge knows.....
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D-stress your really interested in this .. theres been 834384 topics on who killed 2pac on dubcc.. you should research
btw there was a cat that actually went to las vegas from dubcc and retraced all the steps and everything that happened tonight and led to the conclusion...
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a few videos exposin the trash dvd and thei stupid theory
the third one clears the bs about the "no gun order" rumor and and destroyed crappinaton trash and show what shady people pacs bodyguards are
" We were told to either leave them in our room or leave them in our car."
Rebuttal to Tupac crappination (part1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuDIT-LWwg4&feature=related
Rebuttal to Tupac crappination (part2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfJjK1H43Jc&feature=related
RESPONSE to New Rebuttal to Tupac crappination
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnrTGfHZKVE
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a few videos exposin the trash dvd and thei stupid theory
the third one clears the bs about the "no gun order" rumor and and destroyed crappinaton trash and show what shady people pacs bodyguards are
" We were told to either leave them in our room or leave them in our car."
Rebuttal to Tupac crappination (part1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuDIT-LWwg4&feature=related
Rebuttal to Tupac crappination (part2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfJjK1H43Jc&feature=related
RESPONSE to New Rebuttal to Tupac crappination
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnrTGfHZKVE
Listen and learn people.
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I love at the beginig of part 2 he says there was 4 woman in the other car " as if 4 woman would keep their mouth shut" lol
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Fucked up thing is at least 3 other people out there know..Those were the other occupants in the white car that he stepped out of..Somehow they've managed to not spill the beans.
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Oh geah Snoop knows .
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Baby Lane did it"!
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^^ Search info on Keefee D
A real crip (Baby Lane's cousin)
Tre was DR was heard talking about Keefee being the killer and there is proper evidence to support
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LMAO @ THE "BIGGEST" "UNSOLVED" MURDER IN HISTORY... GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE.........
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who was keefey d (sp?)?and what he has to do with the whole thing?so yall say baby lane wasnt the shooter?
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where is Trevor Lane aka Trey now?
i read keefee d got murdered too right?
i also read about that anderson was wanted by the cops for some murder in APRIL 96 but they didnt had enough evidence about it.anyone know what murder it was?
who was the informant taht tell the police about that all?where did he get his infos?we will never know.
he "the ifnormer" also said 3 bloods met at leuders park to discuss how to strike back for 2pacs murder.
who were these bloods?from what set?i mean was it MOB PIRU with DR or FRUIT TOWN or LEUDERS PARK?
which of the three gangs were with DR (protectition, workers at DR,etc.) i always thought just MOB PIRU was suge´s people.do these sets still exist?
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Well the guy who was suppose to give us the killer , was killed himself , 2 pac's homeboy , andi bet it wasnt gonna be Anderson .
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who then?
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stop makin up theories.it was simple
pac was reppin bloods, bloods got robber by lane and took the DR chain.
pac saw the guy and punched him infront of people.
the guy went for his gun and killed 2pac.
maybe crips called biggie and said: "whussup, give us one mill and we smoke pac" and biggie agreed.
baby lane killed pac for his own and plus got money from biggie
end of the story.
2pac went too far.
best post ever
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The Blood retaliation was MOB Piru, Leuders Park Blood and another blood set from Compton.
I'm not sure what happened to Keefee D but he was the one who shot 2Pac.
One of the homes of Baby Lane was raided by the police. Guns and shit to do with Las Vegas was found.
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stop makin up theories.it was simple
pac was reppin bloods, bloods got robber by lane and took the DR chain.
pac saw the guy and punched him infront of people.
the guy went for his gun and killed 2pac.
maybe crips called biggie and said: "whussup, give us one mill and we smoke pac" and biggie agreed.
baby lane killed pac for his own and plus got money from biggie
end of the story.
2pac went too far.
thx
best post ever
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crazy thing is theres someone (could be more than 1 person) but at least 1 person thats doin fed time but hes sayin he didnt do it.
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SSCC did it keefy d and/baby lane!
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If you listen closely to the first three seconds of Makaveli 7 Day theory you can hear "Suge shot me". It's hard to say how, by who, and when it was put there. It remains a mystery. When Tupac was sent to prison in 1994 he was planning on spending atleast 3 years there. He hated prison and would have done anything to get himself out of there. Suge had previously asked him to join Deathrow, but he said "he just wasn't ready." The reality of it is that Tupac didn't want to join Deathrow, but changed his mind when faced with prison. Suge said he'd get Tupac out, in exchange Tupac had to do 3 albums for Deathrow. They worked out a contract in which Tupac would receive an advance of $1 million for the first album, in addition to $125,000 for a car, a $120,000 expense allowance for one year, a $250,000 legal fund to be spent as Tupac desired, and David's legal services. Tupac would be paid a royalty of 18 points for sales of the first album, plus a bonus of 1% if it went Gold, and another 1% if it went Platinum. For the second and third, Tupac would be paid an advance of no less than $1 million, or $1 million for every million copies of the prior album which was sold, and he would be paid a royalty of 18% of sales, plus a bonus of l% if it went Gold, and another 1% if it went Platinum. Tupac said at the time he signed the contract "I know I'm selling my soul." But he couldn't stand another few years in prison.
Tupac agreed and Deathrow lawyer David Kenner went about bailing Tupac out of jail. The New York Court of Appeals granted him leave to post bail. $850,000 was raised by Atlantic Records, which was posted in a corporate guarantee. The rest was put up with a $300,000 bail bond and $250,000 in cash from Suge or Interscope. Tupac immediately began and released the album All Eyez on Me, a double CD which covered the first 2 cd's of the contract. While on Deathrow Tupac really seemed to change, influenced by Suge in the mob lifestyle and obviously bitter for the setup in the rape case and being shot 5 times. While on Deathrow he was jacked by Suge Knight repeatedly. He was charged rent on a Wilshire apartment that other Deathrow artists lived in on 9 seperate occasions. He was charged $23,857 for repairs to a porche owned by Steve Cantrock and Suge. Suge and another Death Row representative, who were in California at the time, on the phone told him that he had spent $2 million more than he was entitled to receive. He was charged $115,507 for three pieces of jewelry from B.L. Diamonds, Suge said that the jewelry was a gift to Tupac from Suge, but the bills were never paid. On May 2nd, Tupac was charged $14,500 rent for a house in Malibu which David Kenner lived in. He was then charged $100,000 rent for David Kenner, then $12,000 more. He paid $2700 for Nate Dogg's child support and charged $5,845 for jewelry that Suge bought from XIV Karats Ltd. Sept 3rd he was charged with expenses associated with Michel'le Toussa's Range Rover for $1,453.51. He was also charged over $28,000 for a Chevy Suburban Title. It was taken in Tupac's name initially, but was given to Suge's brother-in-law, Norris Anderson. Tupac was charged $51,425 in connection with the cost of transferring the car to Norris. In August Tupac was charged $2,965, for an American Express bill from Suge's wife. Tupac was charged with expenses that he never agreed to pay which were attendant to the production of albums released by Death Row. He was charged $3,421,842 in video production costs and $663,012 in audio production costs. When Tupac died he had no mutual funds, IRA, or real estate. He owned no stocks or bonds, and had a checking account that had less than $105,000. He also didn't own his Woodland Hills house in San Fernando Valley that he had recently thought he had bought. There was a five-figure life insurance policy, the beneficiary was Sekyiwa, a $61,000 Jaguar that Suge got for Tupac's appearance in a commercial, and a Hummer. His apartment, Rolls-Royce, and Mercedes were listed in Death Row's name.
There's no question Deathrow was run corruptly, and they owed Tupac a lot of money, which is reason enough to kill Tupac. With Tupac's last CD, Makaveli The 7 Day theory, Tupac was poised to leave the row as he'd filled his contract agreement. He was ready to setup Makaveli Records and Euphanasia, a production company from which he wanted to make movies. He was going to be the first artist on the label, One Nation was the second and he had plans to sign Greg Nice and Smooth, another group at quest and Ghetto Starz which is an offshoot of The Outlaws. He also had another company called 24/7, for his music and video work, the scripts he was writing, and the books he would begin as soon as he finished the plans he was doing with Leila to reform the educational system. On August 26th, 12 days before Tupac was shot, he was on the set all day and at the studio all night. On the 27th, Tupac sent Yaasmyn Fula, who managed his business affairs, to the studio to get tapes of what he had done because he wanted to listen to them. Deathrow said no, David Kenner wouldn't allow it. Tupac fired him. Yaasmyn wrote a letter saying that Tupac had finished his last album and he wanted to leave Death Row. Tupac gave Yaasmyn permission to hire another lawyer. On september 7th, Tupac went back to L.A. He decided he wasn't going to go to Las Vegas, but to Atlanta to settle problems with some relatives instead. Suge got him to change his plans because weeks before he'd promised Suge he'd go to the Tyson/Seldon fight with him. He said he didn't want to go, but he'd given Suge his word. At the MGM Grand Tupac was mad because Suge showed up at the last minute. He sat in section 4, row E, seat 2.
After the fight they got into a fight and beat Orlando Anderson, a crip who snatched a deathrow chain from Travis Lane. They went back to Suge's place and got ready to go to club 662 owned by Suge. Tupac had wanted to drive his Hummer, but Suge said that they had things to discuss and got Tupac to ride with him. They drove first in a caravan of cars towards club 662. A white cadillac pulled up beside them and opened fire. Tupac tried to get into the backseat, but Suge pulled him down, and a bullet bounced off of his right hip bone and hit is lung. He was also hit in his right hand and chest. Suge was grazed by a bullet, and suffered a minor head wound. Immediately after the shooting, the Cadillac went south on Koval. Suge made a U-turn from the left lane of Flamingo and sped West toward Las Vegas Blvd., away from the nearest hospital. Yafeu Fula (Khadafi) had been in the car behind the BMW with bodyguards and said he could identify the shooter. He was later found dead in New Jersey with one shot to the back of his head. What reason would Suge have to kill Tupac ? Well Tupac had over 200 master tapes, tapes which would leave Deathrow if Tupac left, if dead they would own rights to the tapes and they wouldn't have to pay the enormous amount of money they owed him. Perhaps Tupac had knowledge of the Row that Suge didn't want him to have if he left. Whoever it was that shot Tupac, didn't seem to want to kill Suge. 13 shots were fired at the car and Suge was grazed by one. Orlando Anderson, who was rumored to have been part of the shooting was a crip, and Suge was a blood. Anderson originally testified that Suge had participated in the beating in the MGM theater, a violation of Suge's parole. He later changed his statement. It was rumored that Anderson was paid off.
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stop makin up theories.it was simple
pac was reppin bloods, bloods got robber by lane and took the DR chain.
pac saw the guy and punched him infront of people.
the guy went for his gun and killed 2pac.
maybe crips called biggie and said: "whussup, give us one mill and we smoke pac" and biggie agreed.
baby lane killed pac for his own and plus got money from biggie
end of the story.
2pac went too far.
best post ever
lmao
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why was pac (a thug) scared of jail?
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^ It's not about being scared... I don't think anyone really wants to go to jail.
And why was this thread bumped?
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^ It's not about being scared... I don't think anyone really wants to go to jail.
And why was this thread bumped?
No idea... but furthermore why the fuck is this still being debated...
I want some of you to go fuck up a REAL crip/any gang member and see how long your life lasts after that.
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Orlando Andersen...
Lock this thread.. sick of these retarded ass posts especially ones from 2 years ago.
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Orlando Andersen...
Lock this thread.. sick of these retarded ass posts especially ones from 2 years ago.
ORLANDO ANDERSEN ? :D
from denmark ? :D
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The Blood retaliation was MOB Piru, Leuders Park Blood and another blood set from Compton.
I'm not sure what happened to Keefee D but he was the one who shot 2Pac.
One of the homes of Baby Lane was raided by the police. Guns and shit to do with Las Vegas was found.
first time heard about Keffee D shot Tupac and that they found guns.
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nah i understand but youd think outta everyone pac would not be scared......he must have been scared for his life then of suge at that time.....lol
orlando is/was a crip right?
who was later killed?
^ It's not about being scared... I don't think anyone really wants to go to jail.
And why was this thread bumped?
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Wow, where have you been over the past decade?
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everybody sayin pac was reppin bloods woo wooo wooo.
how did pac REP bloods besides screamin MOB?
did he wear red?NO
did he say he say in a line he a damu?no.
did he say something about crips?no.
so what the hell makes him a blood?
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how did pac REP bloods besides screamin MOB?
Did it ever occur to you that he died because he stepped to Orlando Anderson, a known South Side Compton Crip, on behalf of a member of Mob Piru? Or how about the M.O.B. tattoo on his RIGHT tricep? Or his M.O.B. ring that Suge also had? And he wasn't just "screaming" M.O.B., he was more or less claiming it at that point.
"Fuck the rap game, nigga, this M.O.B./ So believe me, we enemies" - Against All Odds
"Could it be my history, living G-like/ Enemies that want to see (C) me, what it be (B) like?" - Out the Moon (Boom, Boom, Boom)
"Called a grave digger fucking with a made nigga/ M.O.B. gunfire getting sprayed quicker" - Made Niggaz
"Makaveli for the Mob, M.O.B./ Killing busters is my motherfucking job, him or me" - As the World Turns
"We claim Mob, M.O.B., if you be specific/ We control all cash from Atlantic-Pacific" - All Out
"Bring artillery and roll with a nigga/ The could never take the soul of an M.O.B. soldier, nigga" - My Closest Roaddogz
"Prepare, nigga be aware, 'cause we ain't scared/ M.O.B. till I die, when we ride, niggas disappear" - My Closest Roaddogz
"Fuck them slowly like Jodeci/ And stick a needle in my eye if I don't live and die for M.O.B." - Changed Man
"Who's that nigga in the G-ride/ Screaming out M.O.B., nigga, we ride" - Changed Man
"And even with these cops, if they send for me/ I'll die screaming motherfucking M.O.B." - Worldwide
"My ammunition varies, my voice carries/ Watch me invite the whole world, me and the Mob getting married" - Don't Sleep
did he wear red?NO
He did at times, far more often than he wore blue (which became more seldom throughout his stay at Death Row). The footage outside of the L.A. courthouse, he was wearing a red shirt with a black, white and red Nike jacket over it. In the To Live & Die in L.A. video, he is wearing a RED Dodgers hat, which is a big statement in a song like that where one of his lines even goes, "Better learn about the dress code, Bs and Cs." The day they got the Rolls-Royces, he was wearing a black and red jersey and was even riding around with Heron, one of Suge's homies who is a known Mob Piru. Or even during his last weeks alive (evident from him wearing his Euphanasia chain), he was wearing a bright red dress shirt with a black vest and black pants while driving around in his RR. A picture of him in this outfit (probably earlier that same day) with Kidada at his home is in the Tupac Resurrection book. I could go on and on.
did he say he say in a line he a damu?no.
No, but there are truckloads of M.O.B. references, which says plenty. Whether he was a member is up for debate, but the affiliation was loud and clear.
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lol @ anyone thinkin pac wasnt blood affiliated....or even worse askin if he wore red.....lol
damn
real talk deeeeznuuuts
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Yee, right.
Therfore Biggie putting expressions in his raps ? Like 'Raw C-Poppa', or 'My Boys In The Marine Blue' ?
Is there anybody who knows more expressions that could referred to crip gang that Biggie rapped about ?
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2pac was gunna leave deathrow, Suge heard about it and thought "shit, how the hell am i still gunna make money off this platinum selling artist?"
Suge hired some blood policemen, to murder pac while he was still under Deathrow. That way Suge can still put out cd's by him with that Deathrow sticker still on there to
continue making money off pac's name.
BIG was still in the game and Suge wasnt gunna have BIG take all the fame now that Pac is dead. He called up Puffy and said, "listen nigga, im killin your main man, BIG."
Puff was like, "Fuck you nigga you cant do that shit, hes mine."
Suge was like, " Nigga fuck you, I kill you, or hang you off a balcony or someshit."
Puff was shook and decided that since Suge was so powerful he couldnt do anything about it.
So suge hired some more crooked police to go shoot up BIG.
Once the police investigated the murders and found out that their own force killed these innocent rappers, it would look bad on them so they decided to keep in under raps.
And thats why no one has really talked about it since.
ThE END.
RIP BIGGIE AND 2PAC
lol. You're forgetting the Rampart Scandal though. officer David Mack, Perez and more all fell with this lengthy invesitigation into corrupt police officers in the LAPD, and was probably right after the Biggie shooting I think when corrupt cops were all falling. Would need to read up on it. 2Pac died because of what happened to Orlando Anderson that night. If any conspiracy lies anywhere it's within Reggies contacts in the compton police, and his father who knew all the top dogs, but I truly believe it was to do with Orlando and his crew, although Orlando wasn't the direct shooter, he was still in that car.
David Mack's associate killed Biggie and would have been paid a good amount of money for it. I believe Suge had some influence no matter how minor, in that death
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how did pac REP bloods besides screamin MOB?
Did it ever occur to you that he died because he stepped to Orlando Anderson, a known South Side Compton Crip, on behalf of a member of Mob Piru? Or how about the M.O.B. tattoo on his RIGHT tricep? Or his M.O.B. ring that Suge also had? And he wasn't just "screaming" M.O.B., he was more or less claiming it at that point.
"Fuck the rap game, nigga, this M.O.B./ So believe me, we enemies" - Against All Odds
"Could it be my history, living G-like/ Enemies that want to see (C) me, what it be (B) like?" - Out the Moon (Boom, Boom, Boom)
"Called a grave digger fucking with a made nigga/ M.O.B. gunfire getting sprayed quicker" - Made Niggaz
"Makaveli for the Mob, M.O.B./ Killing busters is my motherfucking job, him or me" - As the World Turns
"We claim Mob, M.O.B., if you be specific/ We control all cash from Atlantic-Pacific" - All Out
"Bring artillery and roll with a nigga/ The could never take the soul of an M.O.B. soldier, nigga" - My Closest Roaddogz
"Prepare, nigga be aware, 'cause we ain't scared/ M.O.B. till I die, when we ride, niggas disappear" - My Closest Roaddogz
"Fuck them slowly like Jodeci/ And stick a needle in my eye if I don't live and die for M.O.B." - Changed Man
"Who's that nigga in the G-ride/ Screaming out M.O.B., nigga, we ride" - Changed Man
"And even with these cops, if they send for me/ I'll die screaming motherfucking M.O.B." - Worldwide
"My ammunition varies, my voice carries/ Watch me invite the whole world, me and the Mob getting married" - Don't Sleep
did he wear red?NO
He did at times, far more often than he wore blue (which became more seldom throughout his stay at Death Row). The footage outside of the L.A. courthouse, he was wearing a red shirt with a black, white and red Nike jacket over it. In the To Live & Die in L.A. video, he is wearing a RED Dodgers hat, which is a big statement in a song like that where one of his lines even goes, "Better learn about the dress code, Bs and Cs." The day they got the Rolls-Royces, he was wearing a black and red jersey and was even riding around with Heron, one of Suge's homies who is a known Mob Piru. Or even during his last weeks alive (evident from him wearing his Euphanasia chain), he was wearing a bright red dress shirt with a black vest and black pants while driving around in his RR. A picture of him in this outfit (probably earlier that same day) with Kidada at his home is in the Tupac Resurrection book. I could go on and on.
did he say he say in a line he a damu?no.
No, but there are truckloads of M.O.B. references, which says plenty. Whether he was a member is up for debate, but the affiliation was loud and clear.
homie i know that.but it´s still not a clear fact that pac was a damu.
i think he a blood too but he didnt represent it like dpg did for crips.like oftb did 4 bloods.etc.
his only reference bein a damu in songs was that MOB-part nothing less nothing more.
i know he was down with MOB Piru people buntry, herron, hen dogg, etc.
some say he was a leuders park piru, some say he was a fruit town, some say he was MOB Piru ???
do u think pac (and you know how pac was) would hide that fact that he a damu?i dont think so.
but he never said shit about it in a song or an interview or whatever.
you know what i mean? i know pac was reppin MOB, i know pac was down with suge and his damu comrades, i know pac used to wear red sometimes but let me ask u: if pac never said M.O.B in a song, would u still think he is a damu?
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how many crips and how many bloods were down wit suge? lol
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Keefee DD - SSC
Solved.
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Orlando Anderson
there you go..the answer....people still have to ask???
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dont tell anyone but i killed that punk
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If you listen closely to the first three seconds of Makaveli 7 Day theory you can hear "Suge shot me".
not that one again......it dont say suge shot me...
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dont tell anyone but i killed that punk
you and suge!!!!!!!!!! both of you???? the 2 of you????? damn you just blew it allll apart...
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homie i know that.but it´s still not a clear fact that pac was a damu.
i think he a blood too but he didnt represent it like dpg did for crips.like oftb did 4 bloods.etc.
his only reference bein a damu in songs was that MOB-part nothing less nothing more.
i know he was down with MOB Piru people buntry, herron, hen dogg, etc.
some say he was a leuders park piru, some say he was a fruit town, some say he was MOB Piru ???
do u think pac (and you know how pac was) would hide that fact that he a damu?i dont think so.
but he never said shit about it in a song or an interview or whatever.
you know what i mean? i know pac was reppin MOB, i know pac was down with suge and his damu comrades, i know pac used to wear red sometimes but let me ask u: if pac never said M.O.B in a song, would u still think he is a damu?
I appreciate the response, along with the fact that it seems like we are more or less in agreement and see eye-to-eye, though you do bring up some questions.
It seems like we both agree that he was affiliated with and did rep the Mob. However, I don't really think Pac would openly say that he was a member (hypothetically speaking of course) because he was smart enough not to say anything that would alienate a part of his fan base or even the people on the streets he wanted to represent, especially when he wanted to unify California together and then the rest of the country. The same thing still applies to Suge, who made his ties very obvious but again never openly admitted anything publicly.
I figure the M.O.B. references weren't so much about him taking on their street beefs as much as it was saying that those people had his back, and if you fuck with him, that's who you're going to deal with if he can't take care of it himself. It reminds me of that scene from Training Day where they found those guys in the alley trying to sexually assault that teenaged girl, who was yelling "Hillside" to the guys after the cops pulled them off of her. Obviously she wasn't a member, but it was claimed because they would take care of the issue for her. It's like when younger siblings or relatives of ranking members of a gang claim the set due to their close ties.
Also, I've never heard anything associating Pac with Lueders or Fruit Town though... where did that come from? That's news to me.
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homie i know that.but it´s still not a clear fact that pac was a damu.
i think he a blood too but he didnt represent it like dpg did for crips.like oftb did 4 bloods.etc.
his only reference bein a damu in songs was that MOB-part nothing less nothing more.
i know he was down with MOB Piru people buntry, herron, hen dogg, etc.
some say he was a leuders park piru, some say he was a fruit town, some say he was MOB Piru ???
do u think pac (and you know how pac was) would hide that fact that he a damu?i dont think so.
but he never said shit about it in a song or an interview or whatever.
you know what i mean? i know pac was reppin MOB, i know pac was down with suge and his damu comrades, i know pac used to wear red sometimes but let me ask u: if pac never said M.O.B in a song, would u still think he is a damu?
I appreciate the response, along with the fact that it seems like we are more or less in agreement and see eye-to-eye, though you do bring up some questions.
It seems like we both agree that he was affiliated with and did rep the Mob. However, I don't really think Pac would openly say that he was a member (hypothetically speaking of course) because he was smart enough not to say anything that would alienate a part of his fan base or even the people on the streets he wanted to represent, especially when he wanted to unify California together and then the rest of the country. The same thing still applies to Suge, who made his ties very obvious but again never openly admitted anything publicly.
I figure the M.O.B. references weren't so much about him taking on their street beefs as much as it was saying that those people had his back, and if you fuck with him, that's who you're going to deal with if he can't take care of it himself. It reminds me of that scene from Training Day where they found those guys in the alley trying to sexually assault that teenaged girl, who was yelling "Hillside" to the guys after the cops pulled them off of her. Obviously she wasn't a member, but it was claimed because they would take care of the issue for her. It's like when younger siblings or relatives of ranking members of a gang claim the set due to their close ties.
Also, I've never heard anything associating Pac with Lueders or Fruit Town though... where did that come from? That's news to me.
are both of you european or just psychohustla?
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I don't know about the other guy, but I've lived in Southern California my whole life, which is more than I can say about 90% of the people here, so I don't know where you're coming from with your weird accusations.
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Biggest unsolved murder in history, lol.
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I don't know about the other guy, but I've lived in Southern California my whole life, which is more than I can say about 90% of the people here, so I don't know where you're coming from with your weird accusations.
i didnt accuse you i asked a question. and just to let you know, youre talking to a weird german kid about a dead rapper's gang affiliations
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Maybe, but if someone asks a question, especially if it's in relation to my own post, then I'll answer it.