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Title: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on April 23, 2008, 05:10:52 PM
I can't help but laugh at the though of him trying to jump off the building because of it



and you hear that Dre interview where he said he as a song called "WoW" on Detox, something about ass
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: WestCoasta on April 23, 2008, 05:12:03 PM
I can't help but laugh
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: The King on April 23, 2008, 05:25:47 PM
It is kind of mean though, you know, everyone is their, Kurupt, Nate, Tray Dee, Snoop, all your buddies, EXCEPT YOU.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: The Real Kilo2 on April 23, 2008, 05:46:24 PM
It is kind of mean though, you know, everyone is their, Kurupt, Nate, Tray Dee, Snoop, all your buddies, EXCEPT YOU.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Nat Turner-reincarnated on April 23, 2008, 05:48:03 PM
 :D now thats some funny shit
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: BIGWORM on April 23, 2008, 05:59:44 PM
After all the shit DAZ was talking about Dr.Dre why would Dr. let him on it. An even better question why would DAZ want to be on it after all the shit he said.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Mixtape Fan on April 23, 2008, 06:02:12 PM
After all the shit DAZ was talking about Dr.Dre why would Dr. let him on it. An even better question why would DAZ want to be on it after all the shit he said.
YUP
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Ali Tha Great on April 23, 2008, 06:03:26 PM
:D now thats some funny shit
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: stephen619 on April 23, 2008, 06:05:15 PM
After all the shit DAZ was talking about Dr.Dre why would Dr. let him on it. An even better question why would DAZ want to be on it after all the shit he said.
True
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: MisterPimp on April 23, 2008, 06:37:49 PM
Why was Daz left off of Chronic 2001?
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: AnybodyKilla on April 23, 2008, 06:48:47 PM
After all the shit DAZ was talking about Dr.Dre why would Dr. let him on it. An even better question why would DAZ want to be on it after all the shit he said.
YUP
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: RhyanG on April 23, 2008, 06:49:54 PM
sad but true. It was cuz his girlfriend left him.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: AnybodyKilla on April 23, 2008, 06:53:03 PM
sad but true. It was cuz his girlfriend left him.

What u talkin about LOL?
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Sir Petey on April 23, 2008, 06:58:15 PM
Why was Daz left off of Chronic 2001?


because he said he produced tracks dre had credit for (gin and juice)

and he called dre a fag


when 2001 was in production daz was still on deathrow also.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Fatdodger on April 23, 2008, 07:22:30 PM
He and warren g was takin credit for alot of shit and dre didnt like that
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: The Real Kilo2 on April 23, 2008, 07:29:58 PM
Why was Daz left off of Chronic 2001?


because he said he produced tracks dre had credit for (gin and juice)

and he called dre a fag


when 2001 was in production daz was still on deathrow also.

I thought some no name fuck did Gin and Juice, but he just did like the fucking drums according to DPG Eulogy. Dre paid him like 3 G's or something like that. I feel sorry for Daz, since he basically got his own ass kicked off 2001, due to he only really did three tracks for the shit. Dre's real ghost producers consist of The Glove, Mel-Man, Colin Wolfe, and Greg Royal. Not sure who does his shit now a days. It is pretty fucked up how Dre got back at Daz though. Suge was probably putting Daz upto that fuck Dre shit, and Daz probably felt betrayed since Dre was one of the O.G. stars to jump ship at Death Row.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: acgrundy on April 23, 2008, 07:36:05 PM
Why was Daz left off of Chronic 2001?


because he said he produced tracks dre had credit for (gin and juice)

and he called dre a fag


when 2001 was in production daz was still on deathrow also.

I thought some no name fuck did Gin and Juice, but he just did like the fucking drums according to DPG Eulogy. Dre paid him like 3 G's or something like that. I feel sorry for Daz, since he basically got his own ass kicked off 2001, due to he only really did three tracks for the shit. Dre's real ghost producers consist of The Glove, Mel-Man, Colin Wolfe, and Greg Royal. Not sure who does his shit now a days. It is pretty fucked up how Dre got back at Daz though. Suge was probably putting Daz upto that fuck Dre shit, and Daz probably felt betrayed since Dre was one of the O.G. stars to jump ship at Death Row.

gin and juice is basically a stolen beat...several beats from doggystyle are pretty much just stolen from oldschool funk w/ minor changes
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: The Real Kilo2 on April 23, 2008, 07:39:27 PM
Why was Daz left off of Chronic 2001?


because he said he produced tracks dre had credit for (gin and juice)

and he called dre a fag


when 2001 was in production daz was still on deathrow also.

I thought some no name fuck did Gin and Juice, but he just did like the fucking drums according to DPG Eulogy. Dre paid him like 3 G's or something like that. I feel sorry for Daz, since he basically got his own ass kicked off 2001, due to he only really did three tracks for the shit. Dre's real ghost producers consist of The Glove, Mel-Man, Colin Wolfe, and Greg Royal. Not sure who does his shit now a days. It is pretty fucked up how Dre got back at Daz though. Suge was probably putting Daz upto that fuck Dre shit, and Daz probably felt betrayed since Dre was one of the O.G. stars to jump ship at Death Row.

gin and juice is basically a stolen beat...several beats from doggystyle are pretty much just stolen from oldschool funk w/ minor changes

Otherwise known as sampling for the most part, but you are right very few changes. Dre did an over-all good job with the album though, even though I kind of dislike Doggy style compared to other Death Row albums. I think the biggest example of a stolen beat on there was G'z and Hustla'z which 2Pac also used for his songs Lie 2 Kick it and Animosity which all three sample Hemoglobin or some shit like that. I can't be fucked with sample names, especially that one.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on April 23, 2008, 08:14:41 PM
Why was Daz left off of Chronic 2001?


because he said he produced tracks dre had credit for (gin and juice)

and he called dre a fag


when 2001 was in production daz was still on deathrow also.

I thought some no name fuck did Gin and Juice, but he just did like the fucking drums according to DPG Eulogy. Dre paid him like 3 G's or something like that. I feel sorry for Daz, since he basically got his own ass kicked off 2001, due to he only really did three tracks for the shit. Dre's real ghost producers consist of The Glove, Mel-Man, Colin Wolfe, and Greg Royal. Not sure who does his shit now a days. It is pretty fucked up how Dre got back at Daz though. Suge was probably putting Daz upto that fuck Dre shit, and Daz probably felt betrayed since Dre was one of the O.G. stars to jump ship at Death Row.

gin and juice is basically a stolen beat...several beats from doggystyle are pretty much just stolen from oldschool funk w/ minor changes

Otherwise known as sampling for the most part, but you are right very few changes. Dre did an over-all good job with the album though, even though I kind of dislike Doggy style compared to other Death Row albums. I think the biggest example of a stolen beat on there was G'z and Hustla'z which 2Pac also used for his songs Lie 2 Kick it and Animosity which all three sample Hemoglobin or some shit like that. I can't be fucked with sample names, especially that one.

props on the info Kilo

didnt know Dre had ghost producers like that

do you know who produced for Daz on Retaliation, Revenge And Get Back?
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: The Real Kilo2 on April 23, 2008, 08:22:39 PM
Why was Daz left off of Chronic 2001?


because he said he produced tracks dre had credit for (gin and juice)

and he called dre a fag


when 2001 was in production daz was still on deathrow also.

I thought some no name fuck did Gin and Juice, but he just did like the fucking drums according to DPG Eulogy. Dre paid him like 3 G's or something like that. I feel sorry for Daz, since he basically got his own ass kicked off 2001, due to he only really did three tracks for the shit. Dre's real ghost producers consist of The Glove, Mel-Man, Colin Wolfe, and Greg Royal. Not sure who does his shit now a days. It is pretty fucked up how Dre got back at Daz though. Suge was probably putting Daz upto that fuck Dre shit, and Daz probably felt betrayed since Dre was one of the O.G. stars to jump ship at Death Row.

gin and juice is basically a stolen beat...several beats from doggystyle are pretty much just stolen from oldschool funk w/ minor changes

Otherwise known as sampling for the most part, but you are right very few changes. Dre did an over-all good job with the album though, even though I kind of dislike Doggy style compared to other Death Row albums. I think the biggest example of a stolen beat on there was G'z and Hustla'z which 2Pac also used for his songs Lie 2 Kick it and Animosity which all three sample Hemoglobin or some shit like that. I can't be fucked with sample names, especially that one.

props on the info Kilo

didnt know Dre had ghost producers like that

do you know who produced for Daz on Retaliation, Revenge And Get Back?

I think Daz and Soopa did that together. Soopa was Daz's only ghost producer besides Dean and one more others.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on April 23, 2008, 08:36:24 PM
Why was Daz left off of Chronic 2001?


because he said he produced tracks dre had credit for (gin and juice)

and he called dre a fag


when 2001 was in production daz was still on deathrow also.

I thought some no name fuck did Gin and Juice, but he just did like the fucking drums according to DPG Eulogy. Dre paid him like 3 G's or something like that. I feel sorry for Daz, since he basically got his own ass kicked off 2001, due to he only really did three tracks for the shit. Dre's real ghost producers consist of The Glove, Mel-Man, Colin Wolfe, and Greg Royal. Not sure who does his shit now a days. It is pretty fucked up how Dre got back at Daz though. Suge was probably putting Daz upto that fuck Dre shit, and Daz probably felt betrayed since Dre was one of the O.G. stars to jump ship at Death Row.

gin and juice is basically a stolen beat...several beats from doggystyle are pretty much just stolen from oldschool funk w/ minor changes

Otherwise known as sampling for the most part, but you are right very few changes. Dre did an over-all good job with the album though, even though I kind of dislike Doggy style compared to other Death Row albums. I think the biggest example of a stolen beat on there was G'z and Hustla'z which 2Pac also used for his songs Lie 2 Kick it and Animosity which all three sample Hemoglobin or some shit like that. I can't be fucked with sample names, especially that one.

props on the info Kilo

didnt know Dre had ghost producers like that

do you know who produced for Daz on Retaliation, Revenge And Get Back?

I think Daz and Soopa did that together. Soopa was Daz's only ghost producer besides Dean and one more others.

thanks for the info

those beats were bangin on that album

one of my favorite Death Row releases
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: MRKLEAN on April 23, 2008, 09:47:44 PM
DAZ NEED TO GO DO SOMETHING WITH HIMSELF NOW!!!! HE SHOULD FEEL MORE FUKED UP ON HOW HE FELL OFF MUSICALLY, N DISAPOINTED ALL US HARDCORE FANS.. I AINT HEARD 1 GOOD ALBUM HE PUT OUT SINCE RRG. N HES PUT OUT A SHIT LOAD OF ALBUMS SINCE THEN, INCLUDING THAT GARBAGE ASS 1 WHERE HE TRIED DOIN SOME CRUNK TYPE WESTCOAST SHIT!!!  DAZ HAD SKILLZ BACK IN THE DAY, DONT KNOW WUT HAPPENED?
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: dubsmith_nz on April 23, 2008, 11:26:02 PM
hah crazy, the whole posse there except him. hopefully we'll see that dpg dre magic on detox
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Okka on April 24, 2008, 12:53:16 AM
I heard that he tried to commit suicide, but i don't know was this the reason though.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Dre-Day on April 24, 2008, 12:56:16 AM
Why was Daz left off of Chronic 2001?


because he said he produced tracks dre had credit for (gin and juice)

and he called dre a fag


when 2001 was in production daz was still on deathrow also.

I thought some no name fuck did Gin and Juice, but he just did like the fucking drums according to DPG Eulogy. Dre paid him like 3 G's or something like that. I feel sorry for Daz, since he basically got his own ass kicked off 2001, due to he only really did three tracks for the shit. Dre's real ghost producers consist of The Glove, Mel-Man, Colin Wolfe, and Greg Royal. Not sure who does his shit now a days. It is pretty fucked up how Dre got back at Daz though. Suge was probably putting Daz upto that fuck Dre shit, and Daz probably felt betrayed since Dre was one of the O.G. stars to jump ship at Death Row.

gin and juice is basically a stolen beat...several beats from doggystyle are pretty much just stolen from oldschool funk w/ minor changes

Otherwise known as sampling for the most part, but you are right very few changes. Dre did an over-all good job with the album though, even though I kind of dislike Doggy style compared to other Death Row albums. I think the biggest example of a stolen beat on there was G'z and Hustla'z which 2Pac also used for his songs Lie 2 Kick it and Animosity which all three sample Hemoglobin or some shit like that. I can't be fucked with sample names, especially that one.

props on the info Kilo

didnt know Dre had ghost producers like that

do you know who produced for Daz on Retaliation, Revenge And Get Back?

Dre didn't have any ghost producers, everybody that was involved in the production process of the Chronic and Doggystyle is credited, just check the booklets.

and as far as Daz is concerned; i don't know exactly why Daz wasn't on there, but the shit talking definitely didn't help.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: lost_assassin on April 24, 2008, 01:58:24 AM
i guess he better be on detox other wise he gon kill him self then..but seriously he is a MUST BE on it IMO
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: UCC on April 24, 2008, 05:57:24 AM
Why was Daz left off of Chronic 2001?


because he said he produced tracks dre had credit for (gin and juice)

and he called dre a fag


when 2001 was in production daz was still on deathrow also.

I thought some no name fuck did Gin and Juice, but he just did like the fucking drums according to DPG Eulogy. Dre paid him like 3 G's or something like that. I feel sorry for Daz, since he basically got his own ass kicked off 2001, due to he only really did three tracks for the shit. Dre's real ghost producers consist of The Glove, Mel-Man, Colin Wolfe, and Greg Royal. Not sure who does his shit now a days. It is pretty fucked up how Dre got back at Daz though. Suge was probably putting Daz upto that fuck Dre shit, and Daz probably felt betrayed since Dre was one of the O.G. stars to jump ship at Death Row.

gin and juice is basically a stolen beat...several beats from doggystyle are pretty much just stolen from oldschool funk w/ minor changes

Otherwise known as sampling for the most part, but you are right very few changes. Dre did an over-all good job with the album though, even though I kind of dislike Doggy style compared to other Death Row albums. I think the biggest example of a stolen beat on there was G'z and Hustla'z which 2Pac also used for his songs Lie 2 Kick it and Animosity which all three sample Hemoglobin or some shit like that. I can't be fucked with sample names, especially that one.

Damn hiphop fans against sampling now? I never thought I'd see the day... hiphop was built on sampling stuff and looping shit up and making it bump - most all of hiphops classics sample stuff and the whole golden age used sampling for its sound. I thought it was only rock dudes who still didnt see sampling as an artform
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: PsychoHustla on April 24, 2008, 06:06:45 AM
lol at cats being surprised that Dre has ghostproducers. dude has been stealing credit for a minute now paying muthafuckas for beats. Daz aint no better I dont think he ever produced a track by himself. and sampling is a part of rap since it began the best albums of alltime are full of samples
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: es-jay on April 24, 2008, 06:14:50 AM
do you own The Chronic? do you know what the role of a producer is?
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: PsychoHustla on April 24, 2008, 06:29:45 AM
Doggystle got no credits in the original booklet ever wonder why?
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: es-jay on April 24, 2008, 06:47:25 AM
but The Chronic came out a year before, listing all session players. Doggystyle had barely anything in, maybe simply because the comicstrip took up so much space...

like i asked before, do you know what the role of a producer is?
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 24, 2008, 06:58:34 AM
Doggystle got no credits in the original booklet ever wonder why?

doesn't it say all songs produced by Dre?
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: HEC on April 24, 2008, 09:18:41 AM
Daz had alot of personal problems during that time period. I'm sure he was upset about not being on the album but that was not the reason. He was going through a divorce, was doing some hard drugs but he got help and I don't think the topic is funny at all :-\
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Johnny B on April 24, 2008, 11:35:35 AM
Daz had alot of personal problems during that time period. I'm sure he was upset about not being on the album but that was not the reason. He was going through a divorce, was doing some hard drugs but he got help and I don't think the topic is funny at all :-\

yea, I never knew he was married. ???

who was he married to??
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on April 24, 2008, 12:24:54 PM
I would like to see hi on Detox but no way he makes



detox will be wack
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: J$crILLa on April 24, 2008, 12:33:17 PM
It is kind of mean though, you know, everyone is their, Kurupt, Nate, Tray Dee, Snoop, all your buddies, EXCEPT YOU.

def fucked up
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Ali Tha Great on April 24, 2008, 01:20:06 PM
It is kind of mean though, you know, everyone is their, Kurupt, Nate, Tray Dee, Snoop, all your buddies, EXCEPT YOU.

def fucked up
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: 1234 on April 24, 2008, 01:27:39 PM
Kurupt was always the one that got more exposure than Daz. Tha Dogg Pound were the shit back in the day. Glad Daz didnt do it man.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: PsychoHustla on April 24, 2008, 02:10:24 PM
doggystyle says produced by dre and executive produced by Suge but thats it. no writing credits, no sampling credits, dre did not want the public to know about all that help dude was getting so he and Suge never gave credit on the CD. is it that hard to understand? i know what a producer is and Chronic had the proper credits on there but doggystyle did not
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: biggt on April 24, 2008, 02:28:46 PM
dre didnt steal credit for nothin daz made the beat but the tracks were produced by dre in the booket it doesnt say beat made by it says produced by  even snoop himslef said that same shit daz is his cousin and warren is his boy and he even said they didnt produce shit
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: PsychoHustla on April 24, 2008, 02:39:28 PM
dre didnt steal credit for nothin daz made the beat but the tracks were produced by dre in the booket it doesnt say beat made by it says produced by  even snoop himslef said that same shit daz is his cousin and warren is his boy and he even said they didnt produce shit

he came with ideas drums daz should get credited.ever wonder why dre credits his coproducers now. daz does the same shit. both of them took credit for shit that they did not completly do themsleves. i know what a producer is but i know what a coproducer and cowrirter is. the same way muthafuckas come up with an idea or a chorus or a verse and want cowriting credit and they get it. dont mean they did most of it but contributed
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: dubsmith_nz on April 24, 2008, 04:30:17 PM
dre didnt steal credit for nothin daz made the beat but the tracks were produced by dre in the booket it doesnt say beat made by it says produced by  even snoop himslef said that same shit daz is his cousin and warren is his boy and he even said they didnt produce shit

Yeah Ive seen that Snoop interview, he rules them
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Blood$ on April 24, 2008, 04:37:40 PM
is this what Jayo Felony was referring to when he said "This pregnant bitch ass Daz tried to kill himself with asprin?" and in the video interview when he was saying that Daz was poppin' pills trying to O.D.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Ali Tha Great on April 24, 2008, 06:01:18 PM
is this what Jayo Felony was referring to when he said "This pregnant bitch ass Daz tried to kill himself with asprin?" and in the video interview when he was saying that Daz was poppin' pills trying to O.D.
lmmao... 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: C-BLUE on April 24, 2008, 06:42:35 PM
i remember when this bitch nigga was shakin like a bitch when Lil E ran up on him...nigga is scary
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on April 24, 2008, 06:44:57 PM
when this happen?
(i know they was beefin)



i remember when this bitch nigga was shakin like a bitch when Lil E ran up on him...nigga is scary



haha



is this what Jayo Felony was referring to when he said "This pregnant bitch ass Daz tried to kill himself with asprin?" and in the video interview when he was saying that Daz was poppin' pills trying to O.D.
lmmao... 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on April 24, 2008, 08:23:55 PM
I remember seeing that video on youtube with Jayo and Kurupt

Jayo was clowning the fuck outta Daz on that shit
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Twisted Smoke on April 25, 2008, 10:50:59 AM
i remember when this bitch nigga Lil E  was shakin like a bitch when DAZ ran up on him...nigga is scary

lol  8)
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: HG on April 25, 2008, 11:16:14 AM
od'ing on aspirin is meant to be one of the most painful ways to go
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: es-jay on April 26, 2008, 05:23:25 AM
doggystyle says produced by dre and executive produced by Suge but thats it. no writing credits, no sampling credits, dre did not want the public to know about all that help dude was getting so he and Suge never gave credit on the CD. is it that hard to understand? i know what a producer is and Chronic had the proper credits on there but doggystyle did not


so he tells the world about his "help" on The Chronic, but on Doggystyle he needs to hide it??
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Booz on April 26, 2008, 05:44:49 AM
od'ing on aspirin is meant to be one of the most painful ways to go
Straight Gangsta!
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Darksider on April 26, 2008, 06:17:42 AM
nah that wasnt the reason..imao
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Raiders4Life on April 28, 2008, 12:44:45 PM
It is kind of mean though, you know, everyone is their, Kurupt, Nate, Tray Dee, Snoop, all your buddies, EXCEPT YOU.

That's probably the exact same way Warren G felt when he wasn't on any Death Row Shit. Shit he couldn't even had Daz, Kurupt and Snoop on his own album.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Johnny B on April 28, 2008, 01:38:57 PM
It is kind of mean though, you know, everyone is their, Kurupt, Nate, Tray Dee, Snoop, all your buddies, EXCEPT YOU.

That's probably the exact same way Warren G felt when he wasn't on any Death Row Shit. Shit he couldn't even had Daz, Kurupt and Snoop on his own album.

he was on both of Snoop's Death Row albums.

"Ain't No Fun" and "Groupie."
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Lanothegreat on April 28, 2008, 01:47:21 PM
im not sure but im having mixed thoughts about the word..."GHOST PRODUCER" since i produce myself...the act of producing does not neccesarilly mean you play the keys or program drums..or really have any physical interaction on your track...they are people who are "work for hire" people who lay keys,bass,guitar..etc..for you  and they get credit for what work they have done (Dr.Dre-Let Me Ride. Produced by.Dr.dre  Keyboards by Dr.Dre and Justin Reinhardt  Vocals By Ruben) ...being able to produce simply means to be in control of the creative aspect of a project...weather verbally or physically but not limited to soley physical interaction
and "the Glove" and greg royal were mainly engineers..they have production history BUT werent major Dr.Dre contributors...
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Nasty Nem on April 28, 2008, 03:20:40 PM
dre has never used a ghost producer
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Lanothegreat on April 28, 2008, 03:22:04 PM
well..with what i said..i dont think its possible NOT to produce your track in some way unless you a vegitable and cant akl or convey what you feel the project should be...
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Jimmy H. on April 28, 2008, 03:47:14 PM
doggystyle says produced by dre and executive produced by Suge but thats it. no writing credits, no sampling credits, dre did not want the public to know about all that help dude was getting so he and Suge never gave credit on the CD. is it that hard to understand? i know what a producer is and Chronic had the proper credits on there but doggystyle did not
Well, all these songs would need official publishing credits anyway.  If you look at the first "Death Row Greatest Hits" and subsequent Death Row compilations, there are full song credits for the Doggystyle tracks and Dre is listed as producer on all of them.  If he was stealing credit for songs, it's an official thing.  He's not gonna register the producer he jacked the beats from on the publishing and then just not put it on an album.  Death Row lists it on their albums.  If they hid it in 1993 to protect Dre's name, why are they still listing it after he left and giving him full credit? 
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Booz on April 30, 2008, 02:42:50 AM
doggystyle says produced by dre and executive produced by Suge but thats it. no writing credits, no sampling credits, dre did not want the public to know about all that help dude was getting so he and Suge never gave credit on the CD. is it that hard to understand? i know what a producer is and Chronic had the proper credits on there but doggystyle did not
Well, all these songs would need official publishing credits anyway.  If you look at the first "Death Row Greatest Hits" and subsequent Death Row compilations, there are full song credits for the Doggystyle tracks and Dre is listed as producer on all of them.  If he was stealing credit for songs, it's an official thing.  He's not gonna register the producer he jacked the beats from on the publishing and then just not put it on an album.  Death Row lists it on their albums.  If they hid it in 1993 to protect Dre's name, why are they still listing it after he left and giving him full credit? 
True! Suge hates Dre, he wouldn't cover for him.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: So Parallel on April 30, 2008, 02:53:42 AM
After all the shit DAZ was talking about Dr.Dre why would Dr. let him on it. An even better question why would DAZ want to be on it after all the shit he said.


its because Daz is the dopest internet gangster EVER
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Lanothegreat on May 01, 2008, 01:00:49 AM
well..money can change peoples opinions quick..from good to back and vice versa..same with fame and credits...so he felt mistreated
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Sir Petey on May 01, 2008, 01:49:23 AM
I believe daz took credit for alot of shit he didnt deserve...skandalous sounds like a straight up quik beat and I think quik is even listed as an engineer on that track. Soopafly said he ghost produced a gang of shit daz took credit for and daz just threw him some cash on the low.

I read that on this forum so take it with a grain of salt but I remember hearing that dre produced respect on dogg food but who really know? I bet if you ask daz he gonna say he produced every song ever made EVER.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Okka on May 01, 2008, 11:50:51 AM
I read that on this forum so take it with a grain of salt but I remember hearing that dre produced respect on dogg food but who really know?

If i remember right Snoop said that Dre produced "What Would You Do" and the whole "Dogg Food" with Daz & Soopafly.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Booz on May 01, 2008, 12:14:11 PM
People say that Dre steals credits but for me it sound the opposite...after all, he sounds like a mentor for many people.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: KING HOLLYWOOOD on May 01, 2008, 03:32:47 PM
I believe daz took credit for alot of shit he didnt deserve...skandalous sounds like a straight up quik beat and I think quik is even listed as an engineer on that track. Soopafly said he ghost produced a gang of shit daz took credit for and daz just threw him some cash on the low.

I read that on this forum so take it with a grain of salt but I remember hearing that dre produced respect on dogg food but who really know? I bet if you ask daz he gonna say he produced every song ever made EVER.
IS THAT U KING P???
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Invincible on May 01, 2008, 03:50:11 PM
Lets be honest, if he really did try to kill himself, its a bit of a rubbish reason to do so. It was his fault he was not on the album, and he should of done his own project to try and better him. No point in crying over spilt milk.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: DPG4Life on May 01, 2008, 06:47:28 PM
I believe daz took credit for alot of shit he didnt deserve...skandalous sounds like a straight up quik beat and I think quik is even listed as an engineer on that track. Soopafly said he ghost produced a gang of shit daz took credit for and daz just threw him some cash on the low.

I read that on this forum so take it with a grain of salt but I remember hearing that dre produced respect on dogg food but who really know? I bet if you ask daz he gonna say he produced every song ever made EVER.

the problem with this whole thing is, that some ppl understand when they have an IDEA for a beat, like a baseline or lil melody they MADE the beat... which is bullshit...
but thats PROBABLY the reason why daz is said to produce skandalous - he NEVER produced that track by himself, i think david blake is credited for mixing
but when you know quik, you already know its at least 90% of dj quiks input on there.. so to me quik should have been credited for producing that motherfucka - and daz co produce MAYBE...

but dre was different in those days, i know quiks a very humble guy, and thats why shit like this happend
dre as DR co owner just said "i produced that beat" - and daz didnt understand this, because he had the idea for a baseline maybe... but thats definately not producing...
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Quadruple OG on May 01, 2008, 06:48:30 PM
The timing of it is off. Daz DID NOT attempt suicide when 2001 came out. Dre's album came out in '99, and as someone mentioned, Daz was still fuckin' with Death Row when the album was being created.

Daz supposedly popped a whole bunch of pills in 2002-2003. That's when that Jayo song and interview came out, and Crooked I referenced it in "Still Tha Row" (check the first line of the second verse talking bout rappers poppin' 70 pills, that's talking about Daz). Daz supposedly tried offing himself because Suge was messing with his chick at the time.

I believe daz took credit for alot of shit he didnt deserve...skandalous sounds like a straight up quik beat and I think quik is even listed as an engineer on that track. Soopafly said he ghost produced a gang of shit daz took credit for and daz just threw him some cash on the low.

Quik mixed a good portion of the album and may have produced more than one track on AEOM, but "Skandelouz" is definately a Daz beat (with Soopafly on the keys). It's similar to the style of production Daz was doing in '96. If you look at the style of production Quik was doing during the mid 90's, "Only God can Judge Me", "Thug Passion", "Rather Be Ya Nigga", and "Check out time" sound like beats Quik could have produced.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: HEC on May 01, 2008, 06:53:39 PM
The timing of it is off. Daz DID NOT attempt suicide when 2001 came out. Dre's album came out in '99, and as someone mentioned, Daz was still fuckin' with Death Row when the album was being created.

Daz supposedly popped a whole bunch of pills in 2002-2003. That's when that Jayo song and interview came out, and Crooked I referenced it in "Still Tha Row" (check the first line of the second verse talking bout rappers poppin' 70 pills, that's talking about Daz). Daz supposedly tried offing himself because Suge was messing with his chick at the time.

I believe daz took credit for alot of shit he didnt deserve...skandalous sounds like a straight up quik beat and I think quik is even listed as an engineer on that track. Soopafly said he ghost produced a gang of shit daz took credit for and daz just threw him some cash on the low.

Quik mixed a good portion of the album and may have produced more than one track on AEOM, but "Skandelouz" is definately a Daz beat (with Soopafly on the keys). It's similar to the style of production Daz was doing in '96. If you look at the style of production Quik was doing during the mid 90's, "Only God can Judge Me", "Thug Passion", "Rather Be Ya Nigga", and "Check out time" sound like beats Quik could have produced.

props, I'm tired of people trying to take credit away from Daz, those AEOM beats were probably all him and Soopafly, I doubt Quik had anything to do with those particular ones although he did a great job of mixing pretty much the whole record
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Lanothegreat on May 02, 2008, 01:08:59 PM
the whole situation is....most new artist when they're in the right place..they'll do damn  near anything...they probably handled most of the track..drum sequencing,bass,etc...and got paid as work for hire..but as soon as they get a name in the game...they claim to have produced the track..which would be technically true...if they didnt recieve money as work for hire personnel...lol...u gotta know the game...u can do 99% of a track and i do 1%..but if im paying you 5g's a track as a work for hire gig..then thats all said and done....no image that scenario and im someone like dr.dre and your hungry to get out there...your not gonna miss the oppertunity to work with me..you'll take the lil money and some credits....
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Dre-Day on August 18, 2009, 06:46:28 AM
bump
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Action! on August 18, 2009, 07:35:38 AM
hey dickhead why are you bumping post like this?
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Okka on August 18, 2009, 08:02:23 AM
dre has never used a ghost producer

Oh really? Yeah, he never used a ghost producer since "producing" doesn't necessarily mean you made the beat.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Blasphemy on August 18, 2009, 01:04:43 PM
hey dickhead why are you bumping post like this?

2 show the OP been on the same beef since 08 I'm guessing. Honestly guy needs to get over it. Sounds like he just hatez daz and every year he will keep bring up the same problems he Used to have.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Dre-Day on August 19, 2009, 02:58:06 AM
hey dickhead why are you bumping post like this?
first of all, why are you calling me a dickhead?  :eh:

like the other guy said, the topic starter made a similar topic so i bumped it.
one of the mods even locked the newer one, so i guess you would have been better off with just asking a question, without getting angry.

Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Blasphemy on August 19, 2009, 10:48:24 AM
dre has never used a ghost producer

No but he does have a team of producers. He even said so (and all the people who worked) that in the end Dre has full control over everything. Same thing with the lyrics. They write, they bring it he ask them to change this, and that. So in the end he has many people working on 1 track, but he is the only 1 who gets final say.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: jman91331 on August 19, 2009, 11:04:39 AM
im not sure but im having mixed thoughts about the word..."GHOST PRODUCER" since i produce myself...the act of producing does not neccesarilly mean you play the keys or program drums..or really have any physical interaction on your track...they are people who are "work for hire" people who lay keys,bass,guitar..etc..for you  and they get credit for what work they have done (Dr.Dre-Let Me Ride. Produced by.Dr.dre  Keyboards by Dr.Dre and Justin Reinhardt  Vocals By Ruben) ...being able to produce simply means to be in control of the creative aspect of a project...weather verbally or physically but not limited to soley physical interaction
and "the Glove" and greg royal were mainly engineers..they have production history BUT werent major Dr.Dre contributors...
thanks. Some people really don't know what a producer is. If all these cats did the beat and Dre took credit then why are they tracks booty these days and Dre shit still bang?
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Okka on August 19, 2009, 11:14:44 AM
But you can clearly see that Dr. Dre has been workin' with different producers these days, the beats don't have the same sound to them compared to that "2001" sound that he had before the "fallin' out" with Mel-Man. It's good to know that he will be workin' with Scott Storch, Mel-Man and Mike Elizondo on "Detox".
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: V2DHeart on August 19, 2009, 12:57:51 PM
Besides his bi-polar non-consistent approach and maturity towards people, he was also high up in the head producing part of Death Row Records, which Dre just cut loose from. Why would he want Daz on there?
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: rollindown101 on August 19, 2009, 04:02:33 PM
I'm gettin ready for Long Beach Iz Active's thread for next year with the same question.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on August 19, 2009, 06:30:30 PM
I'm gettin ready for Long Beach Iz Active's thread for next year with the same question.

it's tradition
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Matty on August 19, 2009, 06:48:28 PM
But you can clearly see that Dr. Dre has been workin' with different producers these days, the beats don't have the same sound to them compared to that "2001" sound that he had before the "fallin' out" with Mel-Man. It's good to know that he will be workin' with Scott Storch, Mel-Man and Mike Elizondo on "Detox".

working with scott storch? is this recent, cause we know detox has been restarted (yet again) fairly recently...
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on August 19, 2009, 06:57:31 PM
But you can clearly see that Dr. Dre has been workin' with different producers these days, the beats don't have the same sound to them compared to that "2001" sound that he had before the "fallin' out" with Mel-Man. It's good to know that he will be workin' with Scott Storch, Mel-Man and Mike Elizondo on "Detox".

working with scott storch? is this recent, cause we know detox has been restarted (yet again) fairly recently...

supposedly dre has scrapped detox 6-7 times
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: Booz on August 19, 2009, 07:10:11 PM
But you can clearly see that Dr. Dre has been workin' with different producers these days, the beats don't have the same sound to them compared to that "2001" sound that he had before the "fallin' out" with Mel-Man. It's good to know that he will be workin' with Scott Storch, Mel-Man and Mike Elizondo on "Detox".

working with scott storch? is this recent, cause we know detox has been restarted (yet again) fairly recently...

supposedly dre has scrapped detox 6-7 times
The dickhead in D.O.C should really pop up sometime and steal everything from the vault, people would welcome him with open arms after that.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: DTG Entertainment on August 19, 2009, 07:16:22 PM
But you can clearly see that Dr. Dre has been workin' with different producers these days, the beats don't have the same sound to them compared to that "2001" sound that he had before the "fallin' out" with Mel-Man. It's good to know that he will be workin' with Scott Storch, Mel-Man and Mike Elizondo on "Detox".

working with scott storch? is this recent, cause we know detox has been restarted (yet again) fairly recently...

supposedly dre has scrapped detox 6-7 times
The dickhead in D.O.C should really pop up sometime and steal everything from the vault, people would welcome him with open arms after that.

LOL. Seriously.
Title: Re: Did Daz really try to kill himself when he was left off Chronic 2001?
Post by: b.laden on August 19, 2009, 10:22:41 PM
The timing of it is off. Daz DID NOT attempt suicide when 2001 came out. Dre's album came out in '99, and as someone mentioned, Daz was still fuckin' with Death Row when the album was being created.

yeah right !