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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Real_G on August 31, 2002, 12:00:14 PM
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Ok since theres quite a number of eminem fans on this board i thought id make this topic for you. Now people seem to stick up for thsi guy no matter what he does and thats bullshit. Please explain how hes so "real" and has not gone commercial when hes at every award show. What the fuck has this guy done thats changed the game. Hes not real at all. If he was he wouldnt go to these phony award shows hed try and be different. He accepts every award, says teh same shit every one else does. He tries to create controversy by dissing helpless people that would never fight him and he makes singles as poppy as nsync would every time he makes a new cd. If hes so "real" he wouldnt make bullshit records like Buisness and without me, real slim shady, my name is. Call it hating but I just think you guys overrate him. Hes a chart topper and that seems to be all he cares about. He cares about sellin records and thats not real. I also have no respect for him because he acts all hard around moby and shit but at the source awards he gets booed and is no hip hop icon. Hes like justin timberlake showing up to the source awards. And he sure as hell doesnt throw up ANY middle fingers to any rappers. You say hed kill any rapper in a battle but he seems to be afraid to diss any rapper that would kick the shit out of him. Prove me wrong.
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You say hed kill any rapper in a battle but he seems to be afraid to diss any rapper that would kick the shit out of him. Prove me wrong.
I'm back now, I've come to release this info
I'll be brief and let me just keep shit simple
+Cani-bitch+ don't want no beef with Slim
Nooooooo! Not even on my radar
So won't you please jump off my dick, lay off and stay off
Amateurs drink veteran piss
from a Dixie Cup, if you ever mix me up
or CONFUSE ME with a Canibus or Dre with a DUPRI!
We'll rub it in, every club you're in will have you
blackballed and make sure you never rap a-fuckin-gain
Well that was easy to prove you wrong. He clearly called out Canibus, a emcee that could get him a good fight in a battle.
Hes not real at all. If he was he wouldnt go to these phony award shows hed try and be different. He accepts every award, says teh same shit every one else does.
So, anyone that goes to an award show isn't real? Dr. Dre, Jay-Z, The Roots, etc. for example.
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Im not talkin about a lyrical battle, im talin about a fight with fists. Eminem wont diss anyone that would kick his ass. Canibus and jermaine dupri arent big guys.
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Im not talkin about a lyrical battle, im talin about a fight with fists. Eminem wont diss anyone that would kick his ass. Canibus and jermaine dupri arent big guys.
Okay, then, Everlast would probably beat the shit out of him physically, but Em still dissed the shit outta him. (check "I Remember", "Quitter")
Also, define being "real". What would him and other rapper have to do to stay "real".
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To stay real you shouldnt go to all the mtv awards. Be on mtv all the time. Make pop songs. Make music for the hell of it, not to be on top of teh charts or sell millions. If it goes platinum it should be for the quality. Eminem goes tripple platinum cause he makes catchy hits that little girls love and buy his cd along with the new boy band cds.
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Ok since theres quite a number of eminem fans on this board i thought id make this topic for you. Now people seem to stick up for thsi guy no matter what he does and thats bullshit. Please explain how hes so "real" and has not gone commercial when hes at every award show. What the fuck has this guy done thats changed the game. Hes not real at all. If he was he wouldnt go to these phony award shows hed try and be different. He accepts every award, says teh same shit every one else does. He tries to create controversy by dissing helpless people that would never fight him and he makes singles as poppy as nsync would every time he makes a new cd. If hes so "real" he wouldnt make bullshit records like Buisness and without me, real slim shady, my name is. Call it hating but I just think you guys overrate him. Hes a chart topper and that seems to be all he cares about. He cares about sellin records and thats not real. I also have no respect for him because he acts all hard around moby and shit but at the source awards he gets booed and is no hip hop icon. Hes like justin timberlake showing up to the source awards. And he sure as hell doesnt throw up ANY middle fingers to any rappers. You say hed kill any rapper in a battle but he seems to be afraid to diss any rapper that would kick the shit out of him. Prove me wrong.
I'm an Eminem fan but I gotta agree with alot of the above statement.
And about Canabis and Everlast, he would never confront them at an award show and flip them off. The day he would do that is the day I would consider him a real "badass" or whatever the fuck he thinks he is. Until that day comes, he is a big mouth bully (probably because of all the bullying he went through as a teen and he now wants to be one) that can talk but can't back it up.
I think alot of people overrate his albums, NOT HIS SKILL OKAY. I don't want people changing my words around. Anyways, his album drops and people call it classic and the greatest album of the year yadda yadda. To be honest none of them are near classic, because they don't transcend the test of time. They are good for a few months and after the shock factor gets dull you tire from his albums quickly. Well I do and every person I know tells me that too. That does not make it a classic.
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I think alot of people overrate his albums, NOT HIS SKILL OKAY. I don't want people changing my words around. Anyways, his album drops and people call it classic and the greatest album of the year yadda yadda. To be honest none of them are near classic, because they don't transcend the test of time. They are good for a few months and after the shock factor gets dull you tire from his albums quickly. Well I do and every person I know tells me that too. That does not make it a classic.
WHoa!!!! SiKo...that's the realest post I ever read on this forum eva....
Prop's on speaking your mind and saying what most of us wanted to say (and have but never got reply's on...)....I agree 100% on the "few months", "Shock value" & "Classic" stuff and I also agree that his music will not stand the test of time as good as some other's, not saying it won't.
But his rant's about his mommy and his hoe girlfriend will become minute when time get's it's hold on it. ImO
Prop's
Hatesrats 2oo2
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Im not talkin about a lyrical battle, im talin about a fight with fists. Eminem wont diss anyone that would kick his ass. Canibus and jermaine dupri arent big guys.
Jae, wtf? So being real means being a big dude that can and will kick anyone's ass? So Suge Knight is the realest cat in the hip-hop industry in your mind. I think Mos Def is the realest and he wouldn't scrap with anyone.
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what has eminem done to change tha game, he made it acceptable to be white an rap, who would of ever thought we see a white rapper as big as eminem after what happened to vanialla icae
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an if u call eminem a fake sell out, etc.... than please make a post for redman an his track wit christina auglera
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Jae, wtf? So being real means being a big dude that can and will kick anyone's ass? So Suge Knight is the realest cat in the hip-hop industry in your mind. I think Mos Def is the realest and he wouldn't scrap with anyone.
No, what i mean is that eminem disses all these helpless people that wont fight back. Thats not real at all. If he disses all the fakes in the music indrustry why wont he diss the big guys. Hmmm I seem to remember tha row dissing him. I wonder what happend to his comeback. Moby says somthin that isnt much of a diss so he acts all hard but when tha row disses him he doesnt say shit. NOW THATS REAL!
what has eminem done to change tha game, he made it acceptable to be white an rap, who would of ever thought we see a white rapper as big as eminem after what happened to vanialla icae
Who cares?
an if u call eminem a fake sell out, etc.... than please make a post for redman an his track wit christina auglera
I agree, Redman is a cool guy. I really liked him. I havent heard the song yet to judge but Im really surprized hed do a song with christina.
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Who cares?
well u asked how he changed tha game, theres ur answer
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Shyne dissed him in an interview too and no retaliation.
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eminems coo
peace
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wuteva yall iz trippin......
Ima keep it real and say MMLP waz a classic......
Too many reasons 2 list......
Dont deny it......
JAE man, Arent U white? be proud of yur own race actually doin somethin in da game......Tha whole character of Eminem is givin white boyz alot of hope, whether they pretend they hate eminem or not......
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Shyne dissed him in an interview too and no retaliation.
is there a point to diss shyne, no. shyne aint puttin shit on wax anymore. unless shyne gets released an puts shit down on wax than eminem should diss him. an im tired of yall sayin death row dissed him, please, tha realeast is as wack as they get c'mon. they only dissed him for publicity. an suge aint no rapper, eminem not dissin him is tha basically tha same situation wit xzibit not dissing suge. Tha only respectable rapper that dissed eminem an is not locked up in jail was canibus. em replied back an was about to start suptin wit him but since c- hollywood true stories, no1 has heard from canibus. I heard ja rule dissed em, even tho ja aint no rapper he is rnb now, em should reply back. But yall so hot in tha ass to have eminem diss rappers, why dont u get on tha gza's case for not dissin eminem, why dont u jump all over nas, why dont u jump all over mobb deep, kurupt, crooked i hell any rapper for that matter for not dissin eminem. but yall gotta make it this big deal that eminem dont diss other rappers, get out of here wit that shit
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is there a point to diss shyne, no. shyne aint puttin shit on wax anymore. unless shyne gets released an puts shit down on wax than eminem should diss him.
Moby did the same thing as Shyne. Moby never dissed Em on records either, just an interview. So why Moby and not Shyne? Jail shouldn't be a factor. As a matter of fact it should give him more incentive to diss Shyne since he can't do nothing to retaliate.
I gotta give the man props though. He's far from stupid. Who else could get the world to think he is hard and he's a badass without even proving it on one occasion?
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- Eminem is no gimmick
- He is "real" (hate that word)
- He ain't sell out
If he didn't lack of melanin he would be accepted.
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To stay real you shouldnt go to all the mtv awards. Be on mtv all the time. Make pop songs. Make music for the hell of it, not to be on top of teh charts or sell millions. If it goes platinum it should be for the quality. Eminem goes tripple platinum cause he makes catchy hits that little girls love and buy his cd along with the new boy band cds.
Gimme a break. Is Outkast not real for making "Ms. Jackson" which was very popular and on MTV all the time. It was a catchy song, they were singing in the hook and they went 3X platinum. I'm sure they have been to an award show of two also.
Those fucking sellouts!
It's fucking dumb when artists claim to "keep it real". No one knows the definition of that. And it's not like you can be "real" or "not real". There would be a huge grey area.
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Why do people here have a problem with people being Eminem fans? Is it such a bad thing?
As for Em being 'real', if doing the things that he does pleases him then he's being real to himself. He's not doing it for our benefit, I don't want him to go and kick the hell out of Moby, but if he feels the need to then so be it. Just let him be him, if you think he's a prat then so be it, but don't make stupid threads about it because you just feel the need to bitch about it. Just don't listen to his music, don't watch shows with him on and then you'll have no need to complain. Same goes to everyone else who hates other artists, same goes for me, i'm gonna try and stay out of threads that include artists I don't like, then there will be no need for people to call me or others 'haters' or 'dickriders'.
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Ok this is the reason i made this thread...
I saw the picture of eminem throwin up the middle finger in mobys face at the mtv awards. If these two had some big problem with eachother i could understand it, but Eminem knows moby isnt gonna do anything. If moby was bigger and talked alot of shit eminem would think twice but since moby is just a guy who said somthin not positive about em(like millions of others) he picked on him. People always diss eminem. Talk show hosts, radio hosts, tv hosts, rappers, lots of famous people.... so why out of all people does he choose moby? Cause moby isnt gonna fight back. I think that was very cowardly of him.
Now dont take this as me hating on eminem. I think hes very talented and i do like some of his music but i cant respect some of the publicity stunts he pulls. Its all to keep him in the news and get some more records sold.
I shouldnt of said some of the shit like "he aint real" but I said it because of the whole Moby incident.
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Crooked I Featuring Sisqo and Juvenile - So damn hood Remix
2 Pac is catchy (R.I.P) and was real...
Some people DO love to be catchy, its the charisma, u dont need to be boring to be real
If he disses Moby and shit its cuz he has no respect for him, why would he diss somebody he respects?
Shyne, Death Row, etc.. they aint famous enuff to have an answer from him, thats what they waitin for to have more publicity.
So now say wut ever u wanna say but it was an opininon, now prove ME wrong
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Eminem aint shit
He is like my friend... he talks about bein a badass and a hard cunt but he has never proved it. until i see him prove that he is the badass he thinks he is let me listen to my Moby CD's in peace
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he never really said he was a bad ass, he pulled a gun on a guy but never used it to have credibility.. so ya keep on listenin to ur Moby cs
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Sure he used it for credibility. Talks about the situation all over The Eminem Show. And the thing about his lack of melanin, if it wasn't for that, half the world wouldn't give a shit about him and he wouldn't be worshipped like he is now.
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who cares if he's real or not? His music is dope as fuck and thats all that matters...I dont know the man personally, so I cant comment on his personal life, or tell u if he's real or not, but I can tell u one thing, and that one thing is Eminem makes dope music...PEAcE
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no he doesnt. the main reason why he sells so much is coz of what he raps about, it appeals to the younger, more immature market
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Eminem lyrically is better than DMX,Jay-Z, etc.Probably equal to MOSDEF and NAS, but second to the Master(Rakim).
Your problem is that you are used to all this TV gangstas, you expect Slim Shady to do the same please betta getta tha realness my man.
The man is white he got to address white problems before claiming the nigga word.About the awards every rapper I know has attended at least one award, the best live hip hop band-Roots have won many of them. Man your mind is twisted if you hate Em because he sells 7 Mil, what about Big, Pac, Dre, NWA, Jay-z, Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube.
What do you want Eminem to rap about his background is not the same as yours, he gotta respect for hip hop than most rappers out there.
Tha Shady One is dope as fuck check this out:
Album: Marshall Mathers LP (2000)
Song: Marshall Mathers
[Eminem]
You know I just don't get it
Last year I was nobody
This year I'm sellin records
Now everybody wants to come around like I owe em somethin
Heh, the fuck you want from me, ten million dollars?
Get the fuck out of here
Chorus One: Eminem
You see I'm, just Marshall Mathers (Marshall Mathers)
I'm just a regular guy,
I don't know why all the fuss about me (fuss about me)
Nobody ever gave a fuck before,
all they did was doubt me (did was doubt me)
Now everybody wanna run they mouth
and try to take shots at me (take shots at me)
[Eminem]
Yo, you might see me joggin, you might see me walkin
You might see me walkin a dead rottweiler dog
with it's head chopped off in the park with a spiked collar
hollerin at him cause the son of a bitch won't quit barkin
(grrrr, ARF ARF) Or leanin out a window, with a cocked shotgun
Drivin up the block in the car that they shot 'Pac in
Lookin for Big's killers, dressed in ridiculous
blue and red like I don't see what the big deal is
Double barrel twelve gauge bigger than Chris Wallace
Pissed off, cause Biggie and 'Pac just missed all this
Watchin all these cheap imitations get rich off 'em
and get dollars that shoulda been there's like they switched wallets
And amidst all this Crist' poppin and wristwatches
I had to sit back and just watch and just get nauseous
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Eminem lyrically is better than DMX,Jay-Z, etc.Probably equal to MOSDEF and NAS, but second to the Master(Rakim).
Maybe but he hardly shows it on his music
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who cares if he's real or not? His music is dope as fuck and thats all that matters...I dont know the man personally, so I cant comment on his personal life, or tell u if he's real or not, but I can tell u one thing, and that one thing is Eminem makes dope music...PEAcE
True dat.
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People have the nerve to diss Em and back up rappers like Ja and P Diddy..Eminem TRYS hard to stay out of the spotlight.Say Goodbye to Hollywood he explains it.U never see him doing 150 remixes of wack shit and infecting the radio like Ja Rule or Nelly...U hardly ever see him on tv except for award shows...He dissed Canibus and Dilated and Cage..Real Emcees..He also dissed popstars too..Chino Xl dissed more helpless people than Eminem and i dont see people saying hes pop.His rhymes and flow are better than anyone comin out right now..I have mad examples but i already prove a mahfucka wrong so...Peace
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People have the nerve to diss Em and back up rappers like Ja and P Diddy..Eminem TRYS hard to stay out of the spotlight.Say Goodbye to Hollywood he explains it.U never see him doing 150 remixes of wack shit and infecting the radio like Ja Rule or Nelly...U hardly ever see him on tv except for award shows...He dissed Canibus and Dilated and Cage..Real Emcees..He also dissed popstars too..Chino Xl dissed more helpless people than Eminem and i dont see people saying hes pop.His rhymes and flow are better than anyone comin out right now..I have mad examples but i already prove a mahfucka wrong so...Peace
Yeah.. Word to that.
He's dissed Dilated, Cage and pop stars.. ohh he's dissed ICP on the MMLP as well. He disses pop stars.. so what? He doesnt like that sorta music and certain artists, so hes just stating his opinion..
The thing is he IS being real. You say he makes bullshit records like buisness, without me, real silm shady etc.. Yeah.. i admit theyre a bit poppy and not real.. But lets see what tracks hes made that you may concider real:
If I had..
Rock Bottom
Say Goodbye to Hollywood
Cleaning Out My Closet
Searchin
The Way I am
Theres jus a few of them. 95% of the time the shit he raps about is real, jus beacuz it aint real to you it doesnt mean he aint being real. He does try and stay out of the spotlight, and jus beacuz he goes to these award shows dont mean he aint real. Pac & Biggie went to these shows
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You guys realize you're arguing with a guest right? I Have alot of good points on why i should argue with you guys but I didnt make this topic. The old JAE did. Therefor it should be locked up.
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You guys realize you're arguing with a guest right? I Have alot of good points on why i should argue with you guys but I didnt make this topic. The old JAE did. Therefor it should be locked up.
but i enjoy arguing.. So leave me be lol
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You guys realize you're arguing with a guest right? I Have alot of good points on why i should argue with you guys but I didnt make this topic. The old JAE did. Therefor it should be locked up.
They're not arguing with you/a guest, they're simply just proving you wrong, like you asked them too.
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They're not arguing with you/a guest, they're simply just proving you wrong, like you asked them too.
I really dont believe anyone has proved "JAE" wrong. And im sayin stop replying to this because It was made by someone who cant argue back anymore.
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95%? MORE LIKE 50/50
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I really dont believe anyone has proved "JAE" wrong. And im sayin stop replying to this because It was made by someone who cant argue back anymore.
So your trying to tell me that your not the same "JAE" that made this thread? Whatever.
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>= link=board=outbound;num=1030831214;start=20#37 date=09/09/02 at 08:26:34]
So your trying to tell me that your not the same "JAE" that made this thread? Whatever.
Im the new JAE. He was the old JAE.
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95%? MORE LIKE 50/50
No, 95%!
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No its 50/50. Lets be reasonable.