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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: KVB on June 25, 2002, 05:01:08 AM
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Today, Overseer de-modded me, in other words he stripped me of my Outbound Connections moderator position. I feel this is unfair. Let me elaborate on what happened, after you have read this, please tell me what you think about this situation.
This is why I think I was de-modded (Overseer knows best, though):
When I first logged on today, I checked Outbound Connections and saw a thread called "Answer these Q's bout what you think bout bone" by Doggystylin.
http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=outbound;action=display;num=1024618906
I made a post responding to his questions, half innocently joking, half my real opinion. I admit I made some comments just for fun, but as I said was only joking, they were by no means meant to be taken personal. Doggystylin could obviously not accept such a post, and immediately responded with a message saying "fuck off kvb, get off jigga's dick". Now this post pissed me off. Believe it or not, I see almost everyday people calling me a Jay-Z dickrider. Sometimes have I explained to people why I am not a Jay-Z dickrider, sometimes have I just shrugged it off and ignored it, but it gets very annoying when this shit repeats itself over and over. So since this message contained a blatant personal attack which purpose was solely to offend me, I decided to remove Doggy's post. It was a hater post, totally unacceptable, so I believed I was justified in removing it. I tried to explain to him why I did it, I for one thought this board should be completely devoid of beef. I have seen many moderators remove shady messages from obnoxious people on this forum, some have even edited and humiliated him/her, why should I not be allowed to remove a hater message? Back to the topic, our discussion continued. He kept coming with immature insults like "asshole, dickhead", etc... regardless of what I tried to explain to him. He was simply unable to discuss maturely. I think the little child is aucustic or something, he couldn't understand that I was joking, that I meant no harm. I was getting tired of him and was about to say "Fuck It" and just ignore Doggy and his thread, but then suddenly I saw another post by him: "this thread was good until you came fucking it up". I interpreted that like... OK, if you feel that way, since you take it personal, I'ma clean up this thread for you. I removed every post dealing with our arguments (including my own post respond to his questions), and left the thread fresh and clean, the only posts left were those answering Doggy's questions seriously, those relevant to the thread's topic. Basically, I tried to HELP him. But Doggy was still not satisfied. While I was cleaning up the thread (removing mine and his arguing posts), he posted something like this "hey, don't delete the posts, leave the evidence" or something like that. WTF? I just did what you wanted me to do... now I was getting really exasperated, and made a post saying "Shut The Fuck Up, I just did what you wanted me to do, no more moaning" and removed his post and then my own (the one I just described). By this time I was really annoyed with Doggy and his thread, and decided to just plain ignore it.
I noticed another thread on Outbound Connections called "Mixin Bone verses with who?", also created by Doggystylin.
http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=outbound;action=display;num=1024878176
Being annoyed by Doggy's behavoir, I made a post saying "Bone should do a song with Cashaun the Gay Rapper". Even now I was joking, this should be completely evident to everybody who read it, I even put a smiley and j/k to make sure nobody misinterpreted my intent. Shortly after I noticed my post had vansihed. Tom had removed it, saying "enough bullshit, stick to the topic". Alright. I could understand and accept that, and posted my honest opinion about the issue. At the same time I removed the messages which was not sticking to the topic (including another hater message from Doggy aimed at me), as Tom wanted.
Shortly after, Overseer de-modded me.
Why?
I believe I was a good moderator. I was always trying to help out people to the best of my ability, answer their questions, found information, posting my opinion on every thread that interested me. I was nearly always discussing maturely and friendly, not discriminating anybody. Some arguments got a bit heated, but I was never instigating beef. Ask the other moderators or the regular posters/vistiors at the Outbound Connections board, I'm sure the majority would tell you the same.
I had never edited nor removed any post/thread before today. The only thing I had done while I was a moderator was move some wrongly placed threads to their right sections. I had also locked one, for a good reason.
I respect everybody on this board except Logic and Doggystylin. I'm not looking for beef. I come to this board for civilized hip-hop discussion. But honestly, I fail to see what I have done wrong. Even if I made a wrong move today, it surely does not justify a de-modding.
I would like to thank you all if you were bothered to read this, what I have wrote is the truth, what happened earlier today. Now please, tell me if you think Overseer was justified in de-modding me or not.
One more thing:
Overseer claimed that people had been complaining on me earlier. I cannot understand this. But if you did complain about me, please reply to this thread and tell me why. We'll discuss it maturely.
Holla back
Peace
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I wasnt there to witness the 'argument' between doggy and KVB, but I dont think he should be de-modded cuz he deleted offensive posts which were creating beef and were offtopic...and it seems like thats what TOM did as well... I dunno, maby im missing sumtin, but by what KVB wrote, i dont think he should be demodded just like dat...
-{bLaDe}
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:. link=board=outbound;num=1025017268;start=0#1 date=06/25/02 at 10:11:09]I wasnt there to witness the 'argument' between doggy and KVB, but I dont think he should be de-modded cuz he deleted offensive posts which were creating beef and were offtopic...and it seems like thats what TOM did as well... I dunno, maby im missing sumtin, but by what KVB wrote, i dont think he should be demodded just like dat...
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word. i don't think KVB shouldve been demoded ...
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we want kvb back!
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we want kvb back!
Thanks homie... dunno if you were serious, but anyway thanks to everybody for their support, Overseer is bound to see this soon, peace
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LOL.....please KVB, i can make you look like a fool
listen up yall
KVB came into my bone thugs threads callin bone homosexuals and sayin they had no talent, plus more shit that would piss anyone off, so i come in and im like, get the fuck outta here kvb and take jiggas dick outta your mouth, so he deletes my post but leaves his who is makin fun of bone?
so he just deletes a my post who was tellin him to get outta my thread cause of his bullshit just cause he didnt like it and it was offending to him and not to anyone else, and then i write about all this in the threads, and he comes in deleting all the evidence......oh yeah and plus he kept deleting all the posts i made in those threads and kept tellin me to stop whining about it........now please everyone, dont talk before you know the whole story (blade, i geezy, faboulous)
now kvb, stop whining about it, its over
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LOL.....please KVB, i can make you look like a fool
listen up yall
KVB came into my bone thugs threads callin bone homosexuals and sayin they had no talent, plus more shit that would piss anyone off, so i come in and im like, get the fuck outta here kvb and take jiggas dick outta your mouth, so he deletes my post but leaves his who is makin fun of bone?
so he just deletes a my post who was tellin him to get outta my thread cause of his bullshit just cause he didnt like it and it was offending to him and not to anyone else, and then i write about all this in the threads, and he comes in deleting all the evidence......oh yeah and plus he kept deleting all the posts i made in those threads and kept tellin me to stop whining about it........now please everyone, dont talk before you know the whole story (blade, i geezy, faboulous)
now kvb, stop whining about it, its over
1. I was joking when I said Bone Thugs was homosexuals. I saw a gross pic of Bizzy & Krayzie Bone kissing, and thought I would make fun of it.
I did not say that Bone had no talent.
I DID NOT ATTACK YOU PERSONALLY
You made a post talking shit about me because I made fun of your favorite group, get it? MAKING FUN OF, JOKING.
It was removed. There is a line between jokes and insulting personal attacks.
I don't know what you're talking about in your second paragraph. Read my post for the truth, what really went down. Now please, give me back my moderator position.
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if you said you were joking you would still have your mod spot.
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1. I was joking when I said Bone Thugs was homosexuals. I saw a gross pic of Bizzy & Krayzie Bone kissing, and thought I would make fun of it.
I did not say that Bone had no talent.
I DID NOT ATTACK YOU PERSONALLY
You made a post talking shit about me because I made fun of your favorite group, get it? MAKING FUN OF, JOKING.
It was removed. There is a line between jokes and insulting personal attacks.
I don't know what you're talking about in your second paragraph. Read my post for the truth, what really went down. Now please, give me back my moderator position.
LOL @ KVB whining and bitchin, KVB you know you fucked up, this is my last post cause i know your gonna keep cryin about it cause your world will end if your not mod, look, your the one who started the bullshit, and when i tried comin back you deleted it.....thats the bottom line... you deleted shit you werent supposed to, you bassicly wouldnt let me talk and would only let the people see what you had said, so you were hiding the truth. and i bet if you were a mod right now....you would delete this too, haha, try deletin this one.... ;D
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if you said you were joking you would still have your mod spot.
Yeah I guess, I just thought people would be smart enough to realize that... obviously not, there is still no fucking reason to strip me of my mod position.
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Yeah I guess, I just thought people would be smart enough to realize that... obviously not, there is still no fucking reason to strip me of my mod position.
how bout a ban? does that sound reasonable? (too bad i dont have the power, lol)
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I think Overseer was damn right to De-Mod KVB. He's always stirring shit, not only on this forum. As a mod he shouldn't be taking shots at Doggy every post Doggy makes about BTNH. KVB You say you get mad when people call you a Jay-Z dickrider, but your doing the exact same thing towards Doggy by the looks of it.
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LOL @ KVB whining and bitchin, KVB you know you fucked up, this is my last post cause i know your gonna keep cryin about it cause your world will end if your not mod, look, your the one who started the bullshit, and when i tried comin back you deleted it.....thats the bottom line... you deleted shit you werent supposed to, you bassicly wouldnt let me talk and would only let the people see what you had said, so you were hiding the truth. and i bet if you were a mod right now....you would delete this too, haha, try deletin this one.... ;D
how did I start the bullshit? Most of what I wrote in that Bone Thugs thread was my opinion, but when I made ONE FUCKING COMMENT JOKING you called me a dickrider... WTF? Should I accept that? You're the fucking dickrider man... you flipped out when I made fun of your favorite group... I have let a lot of shit slide, but you fucking crossed a line. You think I would remove your post if you was making fun of Jay-Z? LOL, I would never do that... but as I said, you crossed a line. You was taking shots at me. I just tried to keep beef at a minimum.
And I let you talk... I removed the posts because you wanted me to do it (you claimed I was fucking up your thread when YOU WAS THE ONE WHO STARTED TALKING SHIT, I did never insult you), as I said in my first post. Don't even bother trying to talk it off... now fuck off, I'm tired of repeating myself.
CHECKMATE.
Now please, give me my moderator postition back.
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I think Overseer was damn right to De-Mod KVB. He's always stirring shit, not only on this forum. As a mod he shouldn't be taking shots at Doggy every post Doggy makes about BTNH. KVB You say you get mad when people call you a Jay-Z dickrider, but your doing the exact same thing towards Doggy by the looks of it.
Q: Was I taking shots at Doggy?
A: No, I wasn't. I was never saying anything about Doggy.
Q: Was I stirring up shit?
A: No, I was joking. Doggy misinterpreted it, He took it seriously.
Q: Must I fucking repeat myself over time over time again?
A: Yes, obviously.
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I think Overseer was damn right to De-Mod KVB. He's always stirring shit, not only on this forum. As a mod he shouldn't be taking shots at Doggy every post Doggy makes about BTNH. KVB You say you get mad when people call you a Jay-Z dickrider, but your doing the exact same thing towards Doggy by the looks of it.
Exactly
lolol @ kvb, checkmate my ass, stop tryin to look innocent, oh no your not mod anymore? is your life gonna end now?
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Q: Is KVB making shit up constantly?
A: Yes
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Q: Is KVB making shit up constantly?
A: Yes
I am not making up anything.
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Exactly
lolol @ kvb, checkmate my ass, stop tryin to look innocent, oh no your not mod anymore? is your life gonna end now?
Life ain't gonna end... but it's damn fucking annoying. All I want is some justice.
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One more thing... why is Overseer avoiding this thread?
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One more thing... why is Overseer avoiding this thread?
cause....im guessing......its over and he can care less?
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yo kvb u grown on me as a person alot since when i first read ya post............u always sempt arrogant n acted like a bitch always stirrin up shit, but u do have alot of knowledge and since u tuk ya mod position u been showin alot mo love n u acted more mature but if doggy posts something n u come out with a reply like that, obviolusy u gonna piss him off even if u say u jkin at the end, cuz that lil im messin part jus dont work after shit like that........so what im sayin is u gotta be able to respect artists u dont feel but ones that others feel ya know?
but ya new to the mod position and its obvioulsy gonna tek time to get use to being one, but u dun a decent job so far so i think ya should keep him on as a mod...........but kvb jus respect others posts 2 that u aint feelin
now dont get beefin about this post cuz u wanted it 2 stay mature so heres a mature post
n giv back his mod position if he wants it that bad, ppl learn from mistakes but u gotta giv them a chance
peace
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First off I think KVB has been a good mod, a consistent poster, usually posting valid opinions and info, BUT KVB, I think it's obvious that your no BTHN fan so for 1 you should of just ignored the thread. I havn't been around for 2 days so i'm not sure what went down in the thread but it seems to me like you just replied for the hell of it. But I do think deleting the replies that weren't relevant was a good move. But I dunno, I wasn't hear so I can't or don't really want to take sides.
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ha...he got stripped pretty quik....aaah at least i can bah jayz in peace now
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ha...he got stripped pretty quik....aaah at least i can bah jayz in peace now
LOL ;D
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BWHAHAHAHAHAHA @kvb demod after 2 days.....
yo seriously, i'm probably the biggest bone hater of all, but doggystylin doesn't talk shit like that to me....you probably said some more shit that you're not admitting....and since because you delete posts we don't have evidence that you did...dumb fucking fag
yo you act like not being a mod is like the end of the world for you....i guess since this was the only resource for your display of power and way of control.....its so sad to see one's life getting throwned down the drain....mwhahahahah
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yo kvb u grown on me as a person alot since when i first read ya post............u always sempt arrogant n acted like a bitch always stirrin up shit, but u do have alot of knowledge and since u tuk ya mod position u been showin alot mo love n u acted more mature but if doggy posts something n u come out with a reply like that, obviolusy u gonna piss him off even if u say u jkin at the end, cuz that lil im messin part jus dont work after shit like that........so what im sayin is u gotta be able to respect artists u dont feel but ones that others feel ya know?
but ya new to the mod position and its obvioulsy gonna tek time to get use to being one, but u dun a decent job so far so i think ya should keep him on as a mod...........but kvb jus respect others posts 2 that u aint feelin
now dont get beefin about this post cuz u wanted it 2 stay mature so heres a mature post
n giv back his mod position if he wants it that bad, ppl learn from mistakes but u gotta giv them a chance
peace
Yeah man I feel you, I shouldn't have been joking about BNTH... still I think de-modding me because I joked once or twice was too harsh. I ain't really that mad no more, I just want some justice. Peace homie
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>= link=board=outbound;num=1025017268;start=20#21 date=06/25/02 at 15:38:43]First off I think KVB has been a good mod, a consistent poster, usually posting valid opinions and info, BUT KVB, I think it's obvious that your no BTHN fan so for 1 you should of just ignored the thread. I havn't been around for 2 days so i'm not sure what went down in the thread but it seems to me like you just replied for the hell of it. But I do think deleting the replies that weren't relevant was a good move. But I dunno, I wasn't hear so I can't or don't really want to take sides.
Yeah I know, I replied just for the hell of it. Joking, just for the fuck of it. I admit my mistake, still I don't feel I should be de-modded. Thanks for showing support homie.
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ha...he got stripped pretty quik....aaah at least i can bah jayz in peace now
Haha :)
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BWHAHAHAHAHAHA @kvb demod after 2 days.....
yo seriously, i'm probably the biggest bone hater of all, but doggystylin doesn't talk shit like that to me....you probably said some more shit that you're not admitting....and since because you delete posts we don't have evidence that you did...dumb fucking fag
yo you act like not being a mod is like the end of the world for you....i guess since this was the only resource for your display of power and way of control.....its so sad to see one's life getting throwned down the drain....mwhahahahah
It's not the end of the world for me, but I feel like I have been treated unfairly. I probably feel like BigJakeDoggyDogg right now. I'll ignore your insults.
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Hey KVB, shit happens man, so you unfortunatly lost your position as mod, ah well. :-/
1) Do you still get to post here? YES
2) Do you still get to be informed on latest news? YES
So what's changed now that your not a mod anymore? Oh hang on...
*No more green stars underneath your name...and...
*You don't have to worry about cleanin' up shit posts anymore
:D
Don't worry about it.
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Hey KVB, shit happens man, so you unfortunatly lost your position as mod, ah well. :-/
1) Do you still get to post here? YES
2) Do you still get to be informed on latest news? YES
So what's changed now that your not a mod anymore? Oh hang on...
*No more green stars underneath your name...and...
*You don't have to worry about cleanin' up shit posts anymore
:D
Don't worry about it.
Yeah man you got a point there. I still think I should be given another chance though, now that I've even admitted my mistake. Thanks for sharing those wise words homie, peace.
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aight this shit is pretty twisted but i gues thats how it is.
kvb why is it so important bein mod? i mean its a internet board and if you're a mod you can edit, move delete shit. whats so important bout it? is it a "honour"? well aiht.
anyway you cant change it and continuin argunin bout it wont give you your mod position bizzack.
peace
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aight this shit is pretty twisted but i gues thats how it is.
kvb why is it so important bein mod? i mean its a internet board and if you're a mod you can edit, move delete shit. whats so important bout it? is it a "honour"? well aiht.
anyway you cant change it and continuin argunin bout it wont give you your mod position bizzack.
peace
Well I guess everybody wants to be moderator, and I just got a bit mad when Overseer de-modded me for no apparent reason. That's all. All I want is a reasonable explanation for WHY Overseer de-modded me. And he chooses to ignore this thread, so it's kinda frustrating... :-/
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im wit my neah doggystylin on this one
just stop bitchin KVB,nothin you can do bout it now
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I ain't bitching, I'm not really mad no more, all I want is a fucking explanation. You call that bitching? I don't. Why did you up this thread by the way?
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Today, Overseer de-modded me, in other words he stripped me of my Outbound Connections moderator position. I feel this is unfair. Let me elaborate on what happened, after you have read this, please tell me what you think about this situation.
This is why I think I was de-modded (Overseer knows best, though):
When I first logged on today, I checked Outbound Connections and saw a thread called "Answer these Q's bout what you think bout bone" by Doggystylin.
http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=outbound;action=display;num=1024618906
I made a post responding to his questions, half innocently joking, half my real opinion. I admit I made some comments just for fun, but as I said was only joking, they were by no means meant to be taken personal. Doggystylin could obviously not accept such a post, and immediately responded with a message saying "fuck off kvb, get off jigga's dick". Now this post pissed me off. Believe it or not, I see almost everyday people calling me a Jay-Z dickrider. Sometimes have I explained to people why I am not a Jay-Z dickrider, sometimes have I just shrugged it off and ignored it, but it gets very annoying when this shit repeats itself over and over. So since this message contained a blatant personal attack which purpose was solely to offend me, I decided to remove Doggy's post. It was a hater post, totally unacceptable, so I believed I was justified in removing it. I tried to explain to him why I did it, I for one thought this board should be completely devoid of beef. I have seen many moderators remove shady messages from obnoxious people on this forum, some have even edited and humiliated him/her, why should I not be allowed to remove a hater message? Back to the topic, our discussion continued. He kept coming with immature insults like "asshole, dickhead", etc... regardless of what I tried to explain to him. He was simply unable to discuss maturely. I think the little child is aucustic or something, he couldn't understand that I was joking, that I meant no harm. I was getting tired of him and was about to say "Fuck It" and just ignore Doggy and his thread, but then suddenly I saw another post by him: "this thread was good until you came fucking it up". I interpreted that like... OK, if you feel that way, since you take it personal, I'ma clean up this thread for you. I removed every post dealing with our arguments (including my own post respond to his questions), and left the thread fresh and clean, the only posts left were those answering Doggy's questions seriously, those relevant to the thread's topic. Basically, I tried to HELP him. But Doggy was still not satisfied. While I was cleaning up the thread (removing mine and his arguing posts), he posted something like this "hey, don't delete the posts, leave the evidence" or something like that. WTF? I just did what you wanted me to do... now I was getting really exasperated, and made a post saying "Shut The Fuck Up, I just did what you wanted me to do, no more moaning" and removed his post and then my own (the one I just described). By this time I was really annoyed with Doggy and his thread, and decided to just plain ignore it.
I noticed another thread on Outbound Connections called "Mixin Bone verses with who?", also created by Doggystylin.
http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=outbound;action=display;num=1024878176
Being annoyed by Doggy's behavoir, I made a post saying "Bone should do a song with Cashaun the Gay Rapper". Even now I was joking, this should be completely evident to everybody who read it, I even put a smiley and j/k to make sure nobody misinterpreted my intent. Shortly after I noticed my post had vansihed. Tom had removed it, saying "enough bullshit, stick to the topic". Alright. I could understand and accept that, and posted my honest opinion about the issue. At the same time I removed the messages which was not sticking to the topic (including another hater message from Doggy aimed at me), as Tom wanted.
Shortly after, Overseer de-modded me.
Why?
I believe I was a good moderator. I was always trying to help out people to the best of my ability, answer their questions, found information, posting my opinion on every thread that interested me. I was nearly always discussing maturely and friendly, not discriminating anybody. Some arguments got a bit heated, but I was never instigating beef. Ask the other moderators or the regular posters/vistiors at the Outbound Connections board, I'm sure the majority would tell you the same.
I had never edited nor removed any post/thread before today. The only thing I had done while I was a moderator was move some wrongly placed threads to their right sections. I had also locked one, for a good reason.
I respect everybody on this board except Logic and Doggystylin. I'm not looking for beef. I come to this board for civilized hip-hop discussion. But honestly, I fail to see what I have done wrong. Even if I made a wrong move today, it surely does not justify a de-modding.
I would like to thank you all if you were bothered to read this, what I have wrote is the truth, what happened earlier today. Now please, tell me if you think Overseer was justified in de-modding me or not.
One more thing:
Overseer claimed that people had been complaining on me earlier. I cannot understand this. But if you did complain about me, please reply to this thread and tell me why. We'll discuss it maturely.
Holla back
Peace
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This is online--who cares?
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kvb is a dickrider!!!!!!!!!...but he shouldnt be de modded
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kvb is a dickrider!!!!!!!!!...but he shouldnt be de modded
lol