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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: infinite59 on June 15, 2002, 03:59:24 PM
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"If I Ruled The World" by Nas
It doesn't get any better then that. It has the baddest female in it, Lauryn Hill, it was a pop hit that still permeated with street knowledge. It came out at one of the illest stages in hip-hop's lifetime, 1996, when Dre left the Row and started working with East Coast artists, and the East Coast West Coast War was in full swing with West Side Connection setting to blow up, all this ish was going down, the Biggie 2pac beef, it was crazy ya'll, best song of that summer as well, ill video, peace.
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Pete Rock & CL Smooth - They Reminisce Over You.
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the above two songs were dope especially Nas
but the best East song?
Shook Ones 2
Infamous Mobb Deep
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the above two songs were dope especially Nas
but the best East song?
Shook Ones 2
Infamous Mobb Deep
id like to add NY state of mind, big poppa, an cream
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big poppa, an cream
Word!! Big Poppa, and Cream are the 2 of my fav. East Coast joints ever!! I couldnt pick one over tha other!!
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YO, i got an idea, where make this a sticky topic an after a week where pick tha top 4 songs tha got votes an put it up tha top pic an vote.
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Pete Rock & CL Smooth - They Reminisce Over You.
Exactly what I was thinking.
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NY state of mind
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Jay-Z - "Dead Presidents II"
Lyrical supremacy.
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Pete Rock & CL Smooth - They Reminisce Over You.
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Eric B & Rakim - My Melody.
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mobb deep-give up the goods (at least right now) there is too many east coast songs that are classics
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there are a lot but i have to go with feel me flow by naughty by nature beacouse of the beat its kind of a westcoast beat. other fav. nas-life's a bitch, wu tang-c.r.e.a.m, b.i.g-big poppa(great g-funk beat),will smith-summertime(another track with a westcoast feeling).
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I'm gonna have to go with Big Poppa. I know it ain't even an important song, but that's a legend right there. I hate this pick 1 stuff though, because I always got about a dozen songs in any category that are about equally perfect in my mind.
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GIMME THE LOOT,big poppa, D'evils,dead presidents II,N.Y staTE of mind,the world is yours.
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Only picking one is difficult, so I guess I'll have to go with The God
Eric B. & Rakim - Eric B. Is President
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KRS-One - South Bronx
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This is gonna be a hard choice, there's hundreds of great songs from the east, no, there's thousands! I'm gonna have to sleep on this, lol.....
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I'ma have to go with "Big Poppa" or "Victory"...both had tight beats with awesome lyrics...
PS: I love that pic of Alicia =<[7O4D]>=...she's fuckin hot!
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1)Big Poppa
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1)If I Ruled The World
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1. Nas introducing AZ- LIFES A BITCH
2. Notorious BIG- Juicy ( the joint that set it off 4 big)
3. Wu Tang Clan- C.R.E.A.M.
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How could I possibly forget:
Jay-Z feat. The Notorious B.I.G. - "Brooklyn's Finest"
The ultimate duet in hip-hop ever, IMO
Just listen to their chemistry...
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other candidates would be:
Juice Crew - The Symphony
Eric B & Rakim - Follow The Leader
Nas - The World Is Yours
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ohhh boy, here we go
brooklyns finest
can i live
dead presidents
dope man
you must love me
ohhh boy, i can't be bothered
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Ok, I can't pick one, but since everybody else seems to be nominating a few here's some i've come up with:
Sugarhill Gang - Rappers Delight
Rakim & Eric B - Paid In Full
Nas - N.Y State Of Mind
Wu - C.R.E.A.M.
Naughty By Nature - Hip Hop Hooray
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How could I possibly forget:
Jay-Z feat. The Notorious B.I.G. - "Brooklyn's Finest"
The ultimate duet in hip-hop ever, IMO
Just listen to their chemistry...
damn...lol..WORD man, i forgot it too >:(...it actually is prolly the dopest duet ever, as you said.
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The best east coast song ever, even the best song from anyone ever, could be They Reminisce Over You by Pete Rock and CL SMooth...if you don't know about it check it out.......CLiche, props for recognizing this unbelievable song...........I honestly can't believe noone else listed it.
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Since everyone else can't stick to one I'll list the rest of my contenters for that number one spot.
Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - T.R.O.Y.
Nas - It Ain't Hard To Tell
Big Daddy Kane - Ain't No Half Steppin'
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Brooklyns Finest IS NOT the best duet in history, for real.........
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I agree with Infinite on this actually. "If I Ruled The World" was great, I love that song. Close second (very close second) would be Nas feat. AZ - "Lifes A Bitch"....
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Brooklyns Finest IS NOT the best duet in history, for real.........
thats real talk....and i cant believe nobody has named anything from krs....cmon south bronx, bridge is over, black cop, etc...those are some of the realest east coast songs ever.....i guess only a few people here go past 1993
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C2Knuckles, we got the same taste man, as TROY is my #1 and Ain't No Half Steppin is my number 2......its good to see someone who has a clue about such classic songs.....
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Brooklyns Finest IS NOT the best duet in history, for real.........
then go ahead and name a better one
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then go ahead and name a better one
This is not my argument but I could personally name a few that are equal to it or even better:
Snoop & 2Pac - 2 Of Amerikaz Most Wanted
Dre & Cube - Natural Born Killaz
Dre & Snoop - Nuthin' But A "G" Thang
Dre & 2Pac - Cali Love
Just a few that come to mind....
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>= link=board=outbound;num=1024192764;start=20#33 date=06/18/02 at 08:26:15]
This is not my argument but I could personally name a few that are equal to it or even better:
Snoop & 2Pac - 2 Of Amerikaz Most Wanted
Dre & Cube - Natural Born Killaz
Dre & Snoop - Nuthin' But A "G" Thang
Dre & 2Pac - Cali Love
Just a few that come to mind....
well, lets see, 3 of the tracks you named gotz DRE on them...what meanz, they r better produced, but DRE is a louzy rapper-so the best they can be nominated to is best produced tracks ever...k, but "brooklyns finest" haz two FIRE mcz, "2 of amerikas most wanted" is also another classic and shit, a dope track and everythang, but it aint as good a duet.
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>= link=board=outbound;num=1024192764;start=20#33 date=06/18/02 at 08:26:15]
This is not my argument but I could personally name a few that are equal to it or even better:
Snoop & 2Pac - 2 Of Amerikaz Most Wanted
Dre & Cube - Natural Born Killaz
Dre & Snoop - Nuthin' But A "G" Thang
Dre & 2Pac - Cali Love
Just a few that come to mind....
lol, your the best
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I got another:
'Face & 2Pac - Smile
Remember guys, these are just my opinions, you don't have to agree......
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Mobb Deep - Hell on Earth
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then go ahead and name a better one
warren g & nate dogg-regulate.
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warren g & nate dogg-regulate.
well, the only way it is better is production-wise, rap-skill-wise and lyriclly "brooklyns finest" killz it( besides that paino laced beat on "bk finest" wasn't bad at all ,as well )...
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k, but "brooklyns finest" haz two FIRE mcz, "2 of amerikas most wanted" is also another classic and shit, a dope track and everythang, but it aint as good a duet.
thats an eastcoast perspective....out here in cali we look at that as the best collab....brooklyns finest wasnt anything special....sure it has "two great lyricists" but thats ur opinion....but personally me i think TRESSPASS by ICE CUBE & ICE-T is the best duet ever...these are two ogs...two pioneers...straight blazing this track.....
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'Release Yo' Delf - Method Man'
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'Fuck Nas & Nature By Comega' (Love the shook ones beat, but hate the mobb deep version...also it's one of the best diss tracks i've ever heard!)
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i take it back/\/\/\
Pass the Bone - Gza Ft. Rza
jus love everythin bout the song...from Gza's first album (Words From the Genius) b4 wu tang started...was a fan ever since!
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Wu - C.R.E.A.M.
Biggie - One more chance (remix)
Biggie - Going back to Cali
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thats an eastcoast perspective....out here in cali we look at that as the best collab....brooklyns finest wasnt anything special....sure it has "two great lyricists" but thats ur opinion.....
Word. I'm from the UK, so I don't really have first hand experience of how each coast rates these songs. "Brooklyn's Finest" is a great song, but the beat wasn't anything special,
but to me every duet I listed had the best beats and the lyrics to match, which to me makes them better or in some cases equal duets.
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>= link=board=outbound;num=1024192764;start=40#44 date=06/19/02 at 07:54:06]
Word. I'm from the UK, so I don't really have first hand experience of how each coast rates these songs. "Brooklyn's Finest" is a great song, but the beat wasn't anything special,
but to me every duet I listed had the best beats and the lyrics to match, which to me makes them better or in some cases equal duets.
The beat was indeed special. I bumped the track almost daily for 6 months after copping RD. I wouldn't have done that if the beat wasn't addictive. "Brooklyn's Finest" is the best hip-hop duet beat- and lyric-wise, in my opinion. It's all opinions, but don't say the "Brooklyn's Finest" beat was nothing special... because (with all due respect) that's straight BS.
Peace
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Let me add:
Nas - "Nas Is Like"
A worthy contender.
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any1 that tries to downplay what a great song brooklyn's finest is, is a hater. I dont know if i would call it tha greatest duo of all-time but it is up there
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The beat was indeed special. I bumped the track almost daily for 6 months after copping RD. I wouldn't have done that if the beat wasn't addictive. "Brooklyn's Finest" is the best hip-hop duet beat- and lyric-wise, in my opinion. It's all opinions, but don't say the "Brooklyn's Finest" beat was nothing special... because (with all due respect) that's straight BS.
Peace
That's fine, thats your opinion, I happen to think that the beat simply isn't all that special, not compared to the duets I called out. Great song, classic song, but the best duet in hip-hop history, not in my opinion.
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Defo it aint hard to tell.
or sky the limit
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The beat was indeed special. I bumped the track almost daily for 6 months after copping RD. I wouldn't have done that if the beat wasn't addictive. "Brooklyn's Finest" is the best hip-hop duet beat- and lyric-wise, in my opinion. It's all opinions, but don't say the "Brooklyn's Finest" beat was nothing special... because (with all due respect) that's straight BS.
Peace
but u like everything jayz does so u got a biased opinion.....
any1 that tries to downplay what a great song brooklyn's finest is, is a hater. I dont know if i would call it tha greatest duo of all-time but it is up there
not a hater...we just got different opinions...dont be scared of what u dont agree with
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but u like everything jayz does so u got a biased opinion.....
not a hater...we just got different opinions...dont be scared of what u dont agree with
im not scared if some1 else has a diff opinion i jus think its like i said cali love was only a decent track b/c im from NY an they were claimin cali
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but u like everything jayz does so u got a biased opinion.....
Aight really we talking about EASTCOAST songs here... at least "Brooklyns Finest" was the best eastcoast duet in history. I don't think you all can front on that.
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Aight really we talking about EASTCOAST songs here... at least "Brooklyns Finest" was the best eastcoast duet in history. I don't think you all can front on that.
nah, Nas an Az- Lifes a bitch. Many consider Az's verse to be one of tha best ever
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nah, Nas an Az- Lifes a bitch. Many consider Az's verse to be one of tha best ever
That was tight too... "Life's A Bitch" was more slow and laidback as opposed to "Brooklyns Finest", but it didn't have that unbelievable chemistry between two MCs which was present in said "BK Finest". I wouldn't say it is better, both songs are certainly classics, though.
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Another tight duet.....
Just Rhymin With Biz- Kane & Biz
Personally, i feel Life's a Bitch to be a much better song....three incredible verses, and one of the best songs of of one of the best albums ever. Brooklyn's Finest is great, but it never had the impact when it came out that Life's a Bitch did......only in the last couple years since young cats been buyin the rerelease of RD have they got all on this song, and that album.
KVB- I know what you mean, cuz Big and Jay had tight chemistry, evident in I love the Dough also.
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Aight really we talking about EASTCOAST songs here... at least "Brooklyns Finest" was the best eastcoast duet in history. I don't think you all can front on that.
personally i dont think it is....i think meth and biggies the whut was a better collab....
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Another tight duet.....
Just Rhymin With Biz- Kane & Biz
Personally, i feel Life's a Bitch to be a much better song....three incredible verses, and one of the best songs of of one of the best albums ever. Brooklyn's Finest is great, but it never had the impact when it came out that Life's a Bitch did......only in the last couple years since young cats been buyin the rerelease of RD have they got all on this song, and that album.
KVB- I know what you mean, cuz Big and Jay had tight chemistry, evident in I love the Dough also.
"life's a bitch" is mos def a classic, and prolly one of nas's illest tracks, also prolly one of the greatest tracks ever, but as for duets, as KVB said, JIGga and BIG had mad chemistry, plus the track had more verses-it felt more like a duo, so it really was better as a duet, "life's a bitch" had two verses( not that it makes it any less of a song, but it takes from it as from a duet....imo it din't feel much as a duet, i dunno how to explain it).
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nah, Nas an Az- Lifes a bitch. Many consider Az's verse to be one of tha best ever
May I add, Nas wrote AZ's verse for that song. Not that it matters, just thought I'd mention it... peace.
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"life's a bitch" is mos def a classic, and prolly one of nas's illest tracks, also prolly one of the greatest tracks ever, but as for duets, as KVB said, JIGga and BIG had mad chemistry, plus the track had more verses-it felt more like a duo, so it really was better as a duet, "life's a bitch" had two verses( not that it makes it any less of a song, but it takes from it as from a duet....imo it din't feel much as a duet, i dunno how to explain it).
I know exactly what you're saying... and I'm feelin' it... one more thing about "Brooklyn's Finest", you can hear the massive energy present in Jay & Big's verses... Big's flow is the best I ever heard from any MC... it just kills all opposition, just listen to it, it's like... Jigga would rhyme 5-7 bars, then Big would take over rhyming off Jay's last bar, and vice versa, and they would continue like that for a long time (12 verses total) while still managing to spit incredible, breathtaking lyrics. Their chemistry is simply unbelievable. IF YOU FAIL TO REALIZE THIS, YOU ARE A HATER. (Nas & AZ simply cannot match it, just listen to their recent collaborations for proof). This song really special, like no other duet... it's not just a two rappers collaborating on a track, it's on a level completely beyond that, it's one of the best hiphop songs ever made, and it certainly deserve to be called "Best eastcoast duet of all time".
Peace.
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I have downloaded Pete Rock and CL Smooth they Reminisce over You and I love it. The start is amazing. Love it.
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Ya, the start gives me chills everytime i hear it, and this is after 10 years.....UNBELIEVABLE. This song has one of the best beats ever in hiphop, & great rhymes that actually mean something, not just boasting or talkin out the ass....
You never heard the song before you dloaded it Bez?
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nope never even heard of it, but I love the shit now.
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That's wicked man, this song is slept on by the newer generation so it is dope that you feel the song so much. Everyone i have shown the song too also loves that joint.....peace
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yer I love the beat to it and the lyrics are great to. Pure classy stuff. U see I am a person that can tell if a song is good or crap. I can listen to the lyrics well and I can always tell if a song is guna be a hit because of the beat and the way its sounds. I think that if that song got released over in the UK now and got some good air play and it had a good video it would sell well. But hell yer I love the track, dead summery as well.
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U know the song came out in 1993, right? If ya wanna know another dope ass song to check, SOmetimes I rhyme Slow by Nice & Smooth is CLASSIC also,....
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the old school shit is sooooo much better than the new shit. I will get that song right now
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Here's another legit contender:
Lord Tariq - Deja Vu
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nas & az-life's a bitch.
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I'm bored, so i've decided to chart the songs you've all chosen so far. Here goes:
Biggie - "Big Poppa" = 7 votes
Pete Rock & CL Smooth - "They Reminisce Over You" = 6 votes
Wu Tang - "Cream" = 5 votes
Nas & AZ - "Life's A Bitch" = 4 votes
Nas - "N.Y. State Of Mind" = 4 votes
Jay-Z - "Dead Presidents II" = 3 votes
Nas - "If I Ruled The World" = 3 votes
Biggie & Jay-Z - "Brooklyn's Finest" = 3 votes
Big Daddy Kane - "Ain't No Half Steppin'" = 2 votes
Mobb Deep - "Shook Ones 2" = 2 votes
Nas - "The World Is Yours" = 2 votes
Nas - "It Ain't Hard To Tell" = 2 votes
Mobb Deep - "Hell On Earth" = 1 vote
Eric B & Rakim - "My Melody" = 1 vote
Mobb Deep - "Give Up The Goods" = 1 vote
Naughty By Nature - "Feel Me Flow" = 1 vote
Will Smith & DJ Jazzy Jeff - "Summertime" = 1 vote
Jay-Z - "D'evils" = 1 vote
Eric B & Rakim - "Eric B Is President" = 1 vote
KRS One - "South Bronx" = 1 vote
Lord Tariq - "Deja Vu" = 1 vote
Biggie Ft 112 - "Sky's The Limit" = 1 vote
Nas - "Nas Is Like" = 1 vote
Biggie - "One More Chance (remix)" = 1 vote
Biggie - "Going Back To Cali" = 1 vote
Gza Ft Rza - "Pass the Bone" = 1 vote
Sugarhill Gang - "Rappers Delight" = 1 vote
Rakim & Eric B - "Paid In Full" = 1 vote
Naughty By Nature - "Hip Hop Hooray" = vote 1
Juice Crew - "The Symphony" = 1 vote
Eric B & Rakim - "Follow The Leader" = 1 vote
Biggie - "Juicy" - 2 vote
Jay-Z - "Can I Live" = 1 vote
Jay-Z - "Dope Man" = 1 vote
Jay-Z - "You Must Love Me" = 1 vote
Biggie - "Gimme The Loot" = 1 vote
Puffy - "Victory" = 1 vote
Eve - "Got A Man" = 1 vote
Naughty By Nature - "o.p.p." = 1 vote
I think their all correct. You can do whatever you want with these now Infinite :)
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ok this is dope for me since i barely know shit bout the east ima go download all the tracks i aint got.. they cant be bad since for people they are the best ever...
peace
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Biggie - Juicy
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Eve - Gotta Man
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what kinda question is this? there are so many classics out there, but ima go with Nas - If I ruled the world, cause im feelin that the most at this point
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Euthanasia, I don't know if you did it by mistake but "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)" is on your list twice, one with 4 votes and one with 2 votes.
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Posted by: infinite59 aliasofPoliticalG Posted on: Jun 15th, 2002, 8:59pm
"If I Ruled The World" by Nas
It doesn't get any better then that. It has the baddest female in it, Lauryn Hill, it was a pop hit that still permeated with street knowledge. It came out at one of the illest stages in hip-hop's lifetime, 1996, when Dre left the Row and started working with East Coast artists, and the East Coast West Coast War was in full swing with West Side Connection setting to blow up, all this ish was going down, the Biggie 2pac beef, it was crazy ya'll, best song of that summer as well, ill video, peace.
what kinda question is this? there are so many classics out there, but ima go with Nas - If I ruled the world, cause im feelin that the most at this point
I agree...
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"Big Poppa" was a great song, with a west coast inspired beat, the producers of that song were obviously greatly influenced by Dr. Dre at the time. I doubt it is the best east coast song ever, though. Biggie was undoubtedly a very gifted rapper, but considerably sharper lyricists has always existed on the East Coast, like Method Man and Jay-Z, for example. Still I respect your opinions.
Peace
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"Big Poppa" was a great song, with a west coast inspired beat, the producers of that song were obviously greatly influenced by Dr. Dre at the time. I doubt it is the best east coast song ever, though. Biggie was undoubtedly a very gifted rapper, but considerably sharper lyricists has always existed on the East Coast, like Method Man and Jay-Z, for example. Still I respect your opinions.
Peace
big poppa was not even in the top 10 of 'ready to die'!
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That's true, I can't believe "Big Poppa" got so many votes.
"Unbelievable", "The What", "Warning"...all better than "Big Poppa" in my mind. And I think that "Who Shot Ya?" was the B-Side to that single, and that song is better.
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Euthanasia, I don't know if you did it by mistake but "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)" is on your list twice, one with 4 votes and one with 2 votes.
Whoops, I didn't realise the ones that put it down as T.R.O.Y. were abreviating it until you just said, lol. Thanks for looking out.
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"Big Poppa" was a great song, with a west coast inspired beat, the producers of that song were obviously greatly influenced by Dr. Dre at the time. I doubt it is the best east coast song ever, though. Biggie was undoubtedly a very gifted rapper, but considerably sharper lyricists has always existed on the East Coast, like Method Man and Jay-Z, for example. Still I respect your opinions.
Peace
biggie is a much better rapper than jigga, jus my opinion
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biggie is a much better rapper than jigga, jus my opinion
Yeah if he was alive now he would be, but Biggie wasn't better at the time... you heard Jigga's debut "Reasonable Doubt" ?
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biggie is a much better rapper than jigga, jus my opinion
I feel like tha word "much" is a slight exaduration, i mean, i feel ya that overrall biggie was a better rapper, but still you can't dismiss jigga like that compared to BIG mainlly for the reason their styles r\were completelly differend...BIG was that typa rapper to paint a picture, to put you into his story, Jigga on the other hand can also paint shit, may be not as graphiclly as BIG did(i don't believe anyone to this day can..when it comes to this biggie really topz anyone who comes into mind without a doubt) but Jigga has\had a better way wit words in general, if we'z talking bout vocabularry, or bout effortless use of amazinglly sharp and "on point" metaphores and smilies without leanin away (not even by a bit) from the focus of the track...still , BIG was a no doubt amazing lyricist, and an amazing rapper and overall i think he topz JiGGA, mainly thanx to his verbal-graphical skillz which no one could challange...but tha word "much" is rather inapropriate IMO.
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Yeah if he was alive now he would be, but Biggie wasn't better at the time... you heard Jigga's debut "Reasonable Doubt" ?
i have it an ready 2 die is on a different level. ofcourse u will come back an say im a jigga hater even tho i think reasonable doubt is a great album. look at back in tha day, big was tha undisputed king of ny an no1 argued that yet wit jay-z it was always argued is he good enough to be king of NY. Plus ready 2 die, no argues that, that album is a classic. On tha other hand a lot of people even jigga fans say reasonable doubt is not quite a classic
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ready to die is a bullshit album, JUICY and BIG POPPA are the only good songs on it.
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ready to die is a bullshit album, JUICY and BIG POPPA are the only good songs on it.
u r officially a retard
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Naughty By Nature - OPP
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i have it an ready 2 die is on a different level. ofcourse u will come back an say im a jigga hater even tho i think reasonable doubt is a great album. look at back in tha day, big was tha undisputed king of ny an no1 argued that yet wit jay-z it was always argued is he good enough to be king of NY. Plus ready 2 die, no argues that, that album is a classic. On tha other hand a lot of people even jigga fans say reasonable doubt is not quite a classic
"Reasonable Doubt" is equally good as "Ready 2 Die" IMO. Both are classics. Did I call you a Jigga hater ?
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u r officially a retard
LMAO...
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even jigga fans say reasonable doubt is not quite a classic
yea right :)....those r not jigga fans dude.
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ready to die is a bullshit album, JUICY and BIG POPPA are the only good songs on it.
LMAO.........eh yer boss, i agree with tom, eh yer
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It is tho. I dont care if u's keep skitting me all the time, Tom is just a bender like and Doggy is just a prick to, just keep it up like.
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It is tho. I dont care if u's keep skitting me all the time, Tom is just a bender like and Doggy is just a prick to, just keep it up like.
now could u put that in words we could understand
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Oh my god I guess I am not the only retard in this place.
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lmao@bez vs tom
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