West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: la.shine on September 07, 2008, 02:56:30 PM
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Omar Cruz
G Malone
Jay Rock
Juice, lol.
Eastwood
Crooked I
Hot Dollar
Bishop Lamont
Casish wtf
Anybody From BWS, Maybe only Clyde Carson
And When I am Talking about Success, i am talking about an Album that Can at least be shelved and sell minumum 350-400 000 Copies To show that People actually Heard about the certain rapper.
Dont be coming Here with all that, "Omar Cruz has a huge Buzz, Go Google, Thats what Joints said, and he aint been nowhere since Gangsta Music, that wack joint with Game",
I dont wanna hear no Internet Buzz, YOung Berg Had Buzz, He sold 20k, VIC Had Buxzz, he Sold 8k First week,
So, Who is Actually Gonna Break Thru?
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I'm not sure i understand what you are trying to say..But i'm of the opinion that supporting a rapper, is the way to go. Rather than anticipating how many units that rapper is going to sell....
Support...don't look for dung, where the cows never grazed...
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Fuck Free World
Dumb ass thread
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This is a hate thread but at the same time it is true that probably those rappers wont blow. They all have talent tho
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This is a hate thread but at the same time it is true that probably those rappers wont blow. They all have talent tho
bitch azz comment!
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This is a hate thread but at the same time it is true that probably those rappers wont blow. They all have talent tho
bitch azz comment!
how so? explain your statement
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it's true though, this is nothing more then a hate thread
but the reality is that none of these niggas going to be anything
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it's true though, this is nothing more then a hate thread
but the reality is that none of these niggas going to be anything
thanks you, props goes out to you my man.
Its nothing against the skills of these guys. Hey if westcoast comes back toprominence and if the westciast inovates something new but for now it is juts not happening no matter how much i or anyone on this site likes these guys. The national appeal juts aint there.
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Why's Bishop on that list. If Detox drops, so will Reformation. At least he's got a shot at releasing an album.
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this aint a hate thread though just goons like u are talkin constant shit instead of promotin gd west coast music ure dissin it for no reason giving it a bad look when lnear enough of the people on this are bumpin it!
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hate thread?? nah.,...I love Jay Rocks Music, Eastwoood is dope as fuck,
But, what i am trying to say is that It seems like everybody is waiting on momentum with thier singles and they are not gripping it becoz they are releasing shit that is way outta line..I mean
Certified,-Glasses
Omar Cruz feat Game-Gangsta Music, which wouldnt play at the most hardcore stations, shit was wack as fuck.,
Bishop Lamont-Grow up,(For the Aftermath/Scope) expectations and money label thing, that shit was a joke, Why did Game have How We Do and all, and that shit was some avarage ass shit
Jay rock-Not even Signed
Crooked I- Dropped the single, but he aint even signed.
If Those rappers dont care for sales, why wont they just make a CD and do it, they sure Got The Singles Out, Bishop got a single,. G malone, what are they waiting for???
I'll tell ya, they are waiting for a momentum, but its clear that shit is wack as fuck, and it aint even wack, they just dont know how to make singles...
Look at Plies. He is wack as fuck, but he is ambitious enough to Throw Ne yo on the Hook and he doing Gold and Successfull, same with Rick Ross and all, it seems like West Coast rappers are too Gangsta, too old school and too insecure.
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Why's Bishop on that list. If Detox drops, so will Reformation. At least he's got a shot at releasing an album.
everybody has a shot, do a Good single for people and everybody can be sucessfull..
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omar cruz aint ever gonna blow up may as well leave him outta this discussion.
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this aint a hate thread though just goons like u are talkin constant shit instead of promotin gd west coast music ure dissin it for no reason giving it a bad look when lnear enough of the people on this are bumpin it!
i dint diss it at all i made a simple obsevation.
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this aint a hate thread though just goons like u are talkin constant shit instead of promotin gd west coast music ure dissin it for no reason giving it a bad look when lnear enough of the people on this are bumpin it!
i dint diss it at all i made a simple obsevation.
whats the point in this thread then?? just to diss west coast artists??
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i dint even start the thread , i was adding my thoughts to it. Now what im wondering is why you getting your panties all knotted up
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I can't believe I even wasted my time clicking in this thread. :grumpy:
Support who you want because you like them not because you think they might make it and sell.
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uv got me there damn!!
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I can't believe I even wasted my time clicking in this thread. :grumpy:
Support who you want because you like them not because you think they might make it and sell.
thats for sure.
I fully support Bishop, i like his rhymes and his beats.
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If Those rappers dont care for sales, why wont they just make a CD and do it, they sure Got The Singles Out, Bishop got a single,. G malone, what are they waiting for???
I'll tell ya, they are waiting for a momentum, but its clear that shit is wack as fuck, and it aint even wack, they just dont know how to make singles...
Look at Plies. He is wack as fuck, but he is ambitious enough to Throw Ne yo on the Hook and he doing Gold and Successfull, same with Rick Ross and all, it seems like West Coast rappers are too Gangsta, too old school and too insecure.
The market is in the South right now, and has been for awhile now. I know you've heard this time and time again, but that's what it is. Nobody is checking for up-and-comer's on the West or East like that, because the West at the moment doesn't have their own unique sound to stand on their own. The South sound is what's creating corporate revenues; radio, TV, etc.
BTW, by comparing Plies & Rick Ross to all them West niggas up above is laughable. Why? Not because Plies & Ross are better than any of them West niggas, but because they're Southern artists, which is where hip hop lives right now. Might as well throw Soulja Boy in that mix too for shits & giggles. That's beside the point though. Like I already mentioned, the South got shit on lock.
Game, Snoop & Cube are the only relevant mainstream West Coast artists that corporate entities are willing to give a fair shake to, because they already have proven sales records. If Crooked I, Jay Rock & Eastwood were selling Game, Snoop & Cube numbers, then they too would be the "usual suspects" getting a fair shake from corporate entities. Until this so-called "New West" movement starts dropping actual records, there really isn't any reason for mainstream to check them out. Of course none of them niggas is gonna fly off the shelves a la Game, Cube & Snoop, but you gotta start somewhere and grind by building your fanbase over time, and that starts with putting out an album and working up from there.
I've already said that if anyone can bring the focus back to the West Coast with a new, innovative sound, it's Dr. Dre with Detox (if he ever decides to release it). Which is really what I'm expecting from Dre's album. A paradigm shift in the hip hop soundscape, more than anything else.
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hate thread?? nah.,...I love Jay Rocks Music, Eastwoood is dope as fuck,
But, what i am trying to say is that It seems like everybody is waiting on momentum with thier singles and they are not gripping it becoz they are releasing shit that is way outta line..I mean
Certified,-Glasses
Omar Cruz feat Game-Gangsta Music, which wouldnt play at the most hardcore stations, shit was wack as fuck.,
Bishop Lamont-Grow up,(For the Aftermath/Scope) expectations and money label thing, that shit was a joke, Why did Game have How We Do and all, and that shit was some avarage ass shit
Jay rock-Not even Signed
Crooked I- Dropped the single, but he aint even signed.
If Those rappers dont care for sales, why wont they just make a CD and do it, they sure Got The Singles Out, Bishop got a single,. G malone, what are they waiting for???
I'll tell ya, they are waiting for a momentum, but its clear that shit is wack as fuck, and it aint even wack, they just dont know how to make singles...
Look at Plies. He is wack as fuck, but he is ambitious enough to Throw Ne yo on the Hook and he doing Gold and Successfull, same with Rick Ross and all, it seems like West Coast rappers are too Gangsta, too old school and too insecure.
J Rock is signed to Warner.
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Why's Bishop on that list. If Detox drops, so will Reformation. At least he's got a shot at releasing an album.
so is Reformation dropping before or after Hittman's Aftermath album?
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Why's Bishop on that list. If Detox drops, so will Reformation. At least he's got a shot at releasing an album.
so is Reformation dropping before or after Hittman's Aftermath album?
lol i thought hittman was kinda cool but serioulsy hittman or bishop same shit.
Honeslty i could juts imagine where Game would be now if Dre would of been behind the last 2 projects. Even Dre for that matter would probably be more out there
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Why's Bishop on that list. If Detox drops, so will Reformation. At least he's got a shot at releasing an album.
so is Reformation dropping before or after Hittman's Aftermath album?
lol i thought hittman was kinda cool but serioulsy hittman or bishop same shit.
Honeslty i could juts imagine where Game would be now if Dre would of been behind the last 2 projects. Even Dre for that matter would probably be more out there
Hittman had crazy buzz after 2001 dropped, but no one even CHECKING for Bishop and everyone knows he's on Dre's dick and name dropping Detox every chance he gets, but still no one checking for him
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I like his stuff but i dont chekc for him honestly, i dont even click on threads with his new music.
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Why's Bishop on that list. If Detox drops, so will Reformation. At least he's got a shot at releasing an album.
so is Reformation dropping before or after Hittman's Aftermath album?
lol i thought hittman was kinda cool but serioulsy hittman or bishop same shit.
Honeslty i could juts imagine where Game would be now if Dre would of been behind the last 2 projects. Even Dre for that matter would probably be more out there
Hittman had crazy buzz after 2001 dropped, but no one even CHECKING for Bishop and everyone knows he's on Dre's dick and name dropping Detox every chance he gets, but still no one checking for him
Ok, so Hittman had crazy buzz after 2001 dropped.
^^Now this same statement could apply to Bishop if Detox ever does drop by saying:
Hittman Bishop had crazy buzz after 2001 Detox dropped.
^^But since the 2nd statement hasn't happened yet, it's preposterous to think that Bishop won't develop a buzz after Detox drops.
Afterall, people weren't checking for Hittman until AFTER 2001 dropped, so who's to say that can't happen for Bishop AFTER Detox drops?
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You never know how history will treat these people though. I mean, I was heavy in the rap scene in 93 until now. And all these people who are supposedly west coast legends, like Spice 1, BG Knoccout, Twinz, E-40, etc. I mean, back in 95, no one really thought these guys 'made it' either, other than people like us now, who are heavy in the rap scene. But now everyone's like "i wish I was into the rap game when BG Knoccout and Dresta dropped "real brothas", well the fact is, that album didn't sell worth shit back then, which is why it's so hard to find these days. So, you never know 10 years from now who people will be talking about.
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Why's Bishop on that list. If Detox drops, so will Reformation. At least he's got a shot at releasing an album.
so is Reformation dropping before or after Hittman's Aftermath album?
lol i thought hittman was kinda cool but serioulsy hittman or bishop same shit.
Honeslty i could juts imagine where Game would be now if Dre would of been behind the last 2 projects. Even Dre for that matter would probably be more out there
Hittman had crazy buzz after 2001 dropped, but no one even CHECKING for Bishop and everyone knows he's on Dre's dick and name dropping Detox every chance he gets, but still no one checking for him
Ok, so Hittman had crazy buzz after 2001 dropped.
^^Now this same statement could apply to Bishop if Detox ever does drop by saying:
Hittman Bishop had crazy buzz after 2001 Detox dropped.
^^But since the 2nd statement hasn't happened yet, it's preposterous to think that Bishop won't develop a buzz after Detox drops.
Afterall, people weren't checking for Hittman until AFTER 2001 dropped, so who's to say that can't happen for Bishop AFTER Detox drops?
difference is............................ Hittman wasn't wack
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Why's Bishop on that list. If Detox drops, so will Reformation. At least he's got a shot at releasing an album.
so is Reformation dropping before or after Hittman's Aftermath album?
lol i thought hittman was kinda cool but serioulsy hittman or bishop same shit.
Honeslty i could juts imagine where Game would be now if Dre would of been behind the last 2 projects. Even Dre for that matter would probably be more out there
Hittman had crazy buzz after 2001 dropped, but no one even CHECKING for Bishop and everyone knows he's on Dre's dick and name dropping Detox every chance he gets, but still no one checking for him
Ok, so Hittman had crazy buzz after 2001 dropped.
^^Now this same statement could apply to Bishop if Detox ever does drop by saying:
Hittman Bishop had crazy buzz after 2001 Detox dropped.
^^But since the 2nd statement hasn't happened yet, it's preposterous to think that Bishop won't develop a buzz after Detox drops.
Afterall, people weren't checking for Hittman until AFTER 2001 dropped, so who's to say that can't happen for Bishop AFTER Detox drops?
Best post ever? Bishop is a pretty well known artist before Dre signed him. Dre took Game and made him a star, why couldn't he do the same thing with Bishop, who was established before hand. It's obvious the album isn't delayed because it's not finished, or it's not good enough. The best move would be to release it after Detox anyways. If Detox drops, so will Bishop.
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Why's Bishop on that list. If Detox drops, so will Reformation. At least he's got a shot at releasing an album.
so is Reformation dropping before or after Hittman's Aftermath album?
lol i thought hittman was kinda cool but serioulsy hittman or bishop same shit.
Honeslty i could juts imagine where Game would be now if Dre would of been behind the last 2 projects. Even Dre for that matter would probably be more out there
Hittman had crazy buzz after 2001 dropped, but no one even CHECKING for Bishop and everyone knows he's on Dre's dick and name dropping Detox every chance he gets, but still no one checking for him
Ok, so Hittman had crazy buzz after 2001 dropped.
^^Now this same statement could apply to Bishop if Detox ever does drop by saying:
Hittman Bishop had crazy buzz after 2001 Detox dropped.
^^But since the 2nd statement hasn't happened yet, it's preposterous to think that Bishop won't develop a buzz after Detox drops.
Afterall, people weren't checking for Hittman until AFTER 2001 dropped, so who's to say that can't happen for Bishop AFTER Detox drops?
Best post ever? Bishop is a pretty well known artist before Dre signed him. Dre took Game and made him a star, why couldn't he do the same thing with Bishop, who was established before hand. It's obvious the album isn't delayed because it's not finished, or it's not good enough. The best move would be to release it after Detox anyways. If Detox drops, so will Bishop.
even with the fact that Bishop is all over Dre's dick he STILL has no buzz and no one knows he exists outside cali
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difference is............................ Hittman wasn't wack
Meh, it's all relative.
Someone else probably thinks Hittman is wack. To each their own.
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Why's Bishop on that list. If Detox drops, so will Reformation. At least he's got a shot at releasing an album.
so is Reformation dropping before or after Hittman's Aftermath album?
lol i thought hittman was kinda cool but serioulsy hittman or bishop same shit.
Honeslty i could juts imagine where Game would be now if Dre would of been behind the last 2 projects. Even Dre for that matter would probably be more out there
Other than a beat or 2 and maybe 100K more sales from groupies like u where would Game be?
he would be in the same position he's in right now faggot.
The Documentary was only Games best song sales and singles wise cuz at the time the whole G-Unit/aftermath thing was big.
now shut the fuck up and die faggot.
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Why's Bishop on that list. If Detox drops, so will Reformation. At least he's got a shot at releasing an album.
so is Reformation dropping before or after Hittman's Aftermath album?
lol i thought hittman was kinda cool but serioulsy hittman or bishop same shit.
Honeslty i could juts imagine where Game would be now if Dre would of been behind the last 2 projects. Even Dre for that matter would probably be more out there
Hittman had crazy buzz after 2001 dropped, but no one even CHECKING for Bishop and everyone knows he's on Dre's dick and name dropping Detox every chance he gets, but still no one checking for him
Ok, so Hittman had crazy buzz after 2001 dropped.
^^Now this same statement could apply to Bishop if Detox ever does drop by saying:
Hittman Bishop had crazy buzz after 2001 Detox dropped.
^^But since the 2nd statement hasn't happened yet, it's preposterous to think that Bishop won't develop a buzz after Detox drops.
Afterall, people weren't checking for Hittman until AFTER 2001 dropped, so who's to say that can't happen for Bishop AFTER Detox drops?
Best post ever? Bishop is a pretty well known artist before Dre signed him. Dre took Game and made him a star, why couldn't he do the same thing with Bishop, who was established before hand. It's obvious the album isn't delayed because it's not finished, or it's not good enough. The best move would be to release it after Detox anyways. If Detox drops, so will Bishop.
You have to think outside of Dubcnn. Nobody really knew who Bishop was. A few more know him now but not enough to just drop an album and expect it to be succesful. Game created huge buzz out the gate with the "YKWII Vol. 1" and "Live From Compton" cd. He blew up even more when Aftermath got involved.
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hate thread?? nah.,...I love Jay Rocks Music, Eastwoood is dope as fuck,
But, what i am trying to say is that It seems like everybody is waiting on momentum with thier singles and they are not gripping it becoz they are releasing shit that is way outta line..I mean
Certified,-Glasses
Omar Cruz feat Game-Gangsta Music, which wouldnt play at the most hardcore stations, shit was wack as fuck.,
Bishop Lamont-Grow up,(For the Aftermath/Scope) expectations and money label thing, that shit was a joke, Why did Game have How We Do and all, and that shit was some avarage ass shit
Jay rock-Not even Signed
Crooked I- Dropped the single, but he aint even signed.
If Those rappers dont care for sales, why wont they just make a CD and do it, they sure Got The Singles Out, Bishop got a single,. G malone, what are they waiting for???
I'll tell ya, they are waiting for a momentum, but its clear that shit is wack as fuck, and it aint even wack, they just dont know how to make singles...
Look at Plies. He is wack as fuck, but he is ambitious enough to Throw Ne yo on the Hook and he doing Gold and Successfull, same with Rick Ross and all, it seems like West Coast rappers are too Gangsta, too old school and too insecure.
J Rock is signed to Warner.
so????? I can Name you A Million Rappers that are signed but they ill not release anything for Any Years...Casish, Stat Quo, Bobby Creek, Joel Ortiz, lil Scrappy, Banks, To Name a Few..
In Order to Come out, you have to present your manager or a head label with the material to convince them that you are worth investing money, and Plies Was a new dude he blew up becoz his singles were radio friendly, even thou he is wack as fuck,
I havent heard a single West Coast rapper that had a good single Material for the Airplay, Everything has been either wack or Avarage Mixtape shit,
And on case you wanna Say that West Coast rappers wanna do it for the hood, well, than prepear to Sell 20 000 and Be out of the label in no time,
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Why's Bishop on that list. If Detox drops, so will Reformation. At least he's got a shot at releasing an album.
so is Reformation dropping before or after Hittman's Aftermath album?
lol i thought hittman was kinda cool but serioulsy hittman or bishop same shit.
Honeslty i could juts imagine where Game would be now if Dre would of been behind the last 2 projects. Even Dre for that matter would probably be more out there
Same with 50 cent and Eminem,He got there at the right time, at the peak where Eminem fans were hungry as hell, same with Everybody...
But Dont Forget, the Checks Dre got for DOC is fair enough to give Game the Name,
I think That Game can Blow up Clyde Carson to The Gold Status and Few Digital DOwnloads, coz his Single Material is Dope, other than that, not a single rapper there can do shit.
And Add Ya Boy to that List,
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Why's Bishop on that list. If Detox drops, so will Reformation. At least he's got a shot at releasing an album.
so is Reformation dropping before or after Hittman's Aftermath album?
lol i thought hittman was kinda cool but serioulsy hittman or bishop same shit.
Honeslty i could juts imagine where Game would be now if Dre would of been behind the last 2 projects. Even Dre for that matter would probably be more out there
Hittman had crazy buzz after 2001 dropped, but no one even CHECKING for Bishop and everyone knows he's on Dre's dick and name dropping Detox every chance he gets, but still no one checking for him
Ok, so Hittman had crazy buzz after 2001 dropped.
^^Now this same statement could apply to Bishop if Detox ever does drop by saying:
Hittman Bishop had crazy buzz after 2001 Detox dropped.
^^But since the 2nd statement hasn't happened yet, it's preposterous to think that Bishop won't develop a buzz after Detox drops.
Afterall, people weren't checking for Hittman until AFTER 2001 dropped, so who's to say that can't happen for Bishop AFTER Detox drops?
Best post ever? Bishop is a pretty well known artist before Dre signed him. Dre took Game and made him a star, why couldn't he do the same thing with Bishop, who was established before hand. It's obvious the album isn't delayed because it's not finished, or it's not good enough. The best move would be to release it after Detox anyways. If Detox drops, so will Bishop.
You have to think outside of Dubcnn. Nobody really knew who Bishop was. A few more know him now but not enough to just drop an album and expect it to be succesful. Game created huge buzz out the gate with the "YKWII Vol. 1" and "Live From Compton" cd. He blew up even more when Aftermath got involved.
Yeah, I remember when Game was on G unit Radio Pt 6 or even 5, in 2003, he did that Song, Ride or Die, when Gunit were selling mixtapes like crazy, people was like, who da fuck is that Dude??
And Even Whoo kidd said that When Game was on G unit tapes, everybody wanted to know who the guy was coz his Rapping was different from other rappers, and i remember, when Game hit the scene, he wasnt like anybody else, there was something about his rhymes that was dope and appealing,
and after Game started dropping YKWII vol 2, and Untold Story, which sold like 80k first week, that was it, everybody was into his shit..
G unit did Help Game blow up, as well as Dre, but than again, Game put the G into the Unit, with Banks Features, Buck,Videos and shit,he was a Marketable Gangsta Rapper.
Game is a Very Marketable Gangsta Rapper, you put him into Roc A Fella, WSC, D block, TS, Bone thugs and it will Be Big.
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Why's Bishop on that list. If Detox drops, so will Reformation. At least he's got a shot at releasing an album.
so is Reformation dropping before or after Hittman's Aftermath album?
lol i thought hittman was kinda cool but serioulsy hittman or bishop same shit.
Honeslty i could juts imagine where Game would be now if Dre would of been behind the last 2 projects. Even Dre for that matter would probably be more out there
Other than a beat or 2 and maybe 100K more sales from groupies like u where would Game be?
he would be in the same position he's in right now faggot.
The Documentary was only Games best song sales and singles wise cuz at the time the whole G-Unit/aftermath thing was big.
now shut the fuck up and die faggot.
lol whats with this guy?? This is why i dont come on the westcoast section. 14 year old kids and shit try to bang on the net
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The Only Rapper I Want Out All Of These New West Cats Is JAY ROCK
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NameBrand is the next legend that will be born out of the west coast...
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NameBrand is the next legend that will be born out of the west coast...
why is that?
because he has a dope nickname, or? :D
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NameBrand is the next legend that will be born out of the west coast...
The few tracks I've heard, he is dope. Does he have an album? Or one in the works?