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Lifestyle => Tha G-Spot => Topic started by: J Bananas on September 12, 2008, 12:49:10 PM
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No hate or anything. There's a huge Iranian/"persian" community in the Bay Area and I've known some hella cool people since I was little, but I never bothered to ask why they don't just say "I'm Iranian"? Or is Persian a different lineage of people from Iran..As of late I've been talking to an apartment broker from the san fernando valley and who is a family friend, and she's been telling me there's a lot of Iranians or "Persians" that settled there. some of you gotta know about their culture so llemme know what the deal is with that..Peace
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I don't really have a clue, but I guess it goes back to the ancient mighty Persian kingdom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persia
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Perhaps because Persia sounds cooler than "Land of the Aryans"
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"Iranian" means you're actually from Iran and "Persian" is simply the whole culture...this is like asking why black people don't identify themselves as "African".
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Perhaps because Persia sounds cooler than "Land of the Aryans"
lol true
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Iran is a country. Persian is an ethnicity.
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Iran is Persia
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thats what i've been saying dawg...I can't stand it when i ask an iranian person where they're from and they say"I'm persian"...which isn't answering the question...I said...where r u FROM...the answer should be a location...not an ethnicity muhfuckazzz...most IRANIANS say that they're persian because it sounds better and less threatening than iranian...like iran is a"TERRORIST" country or some shit...pfffwww...
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This is a very tricky situation
Iran refers to a country, and every citizen of Iran is called an Iranian
Iranians however refer to themselves as Persian which is the name of the ancient empire. But its actually a mistake, an attempt to monopolize the use of that term
If we use the Persian empire as a barometer of what is considered a Persian, then Azeris, Armenians (who actually speak an ancient Persian language), Kurds, Iranians, Tajiks and Pashtuns are considered Persians because these peoples lands made up the Persian empire. Plus the intermingling of Parthian, Scythian and Medes genes plus to some extent semetic on the western part and dravidian on the eastern part.
If we use the Indo Iranian linguistic group as the barometer for Persians, then we include Pakistanis and Balotch
Technically the most correct interpretation would be that all Persian speakers can be considered Persian. But Farsi is the official language in Afghanistan and Tajikistan. Tajiks infact means eastern Iranians, usually Sunni Muslim.
But when an Afghan Farsi speaker (not Pashtun cuz we would never claim persian) claims to be Persian, he is made fun of for being a wannabe. But then an Azeri or Turkic descended Iranian can claim Persian? Makes no sense.
Many of the Persian empires notables, warriors and poets came from modern day Afghanistan like Balkhi, Rumi and Jalaludin Afghani.
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Not to mention that the term "Persian" is non existent in Farsi.
The language is Farsi, the land Pars, the people Aryan.
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Not to mention that the term "Persian" is non existent in Farsi.
The language is Farsi, the land Pars, the people Aryan.
word son...
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Not to mention that the term "Persian" is non existent in Farsi.
The language is Farsi, the land Pars, the people Aryan.
word son...
well its actually parsi...with a p...not farsi...
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thats what i've been saying dawg...I can't stand it when i ask an iranian person where they're from and they say"I'm persian"...which isn't answering the question...I said...where r u FROM...the answer should be a location...not an ethnicity muhfuckazzz...most IRANIANS say that they're persian because it sounds better and less threatening than iranian...like iran is a"TERRORIST" country or some shit...pfffwww...
Word!
That's kind of how I see it. They shouldn't be ashamed to be from Iran though. A lot of people are really interested to meet, get to know, and be friends with an Iranian. They shouldn't assume everyone just thinks they are a terrorist or something. It's usually the opposite that people are curious and would like to know more about them. So it's better to open up.
And Iranians should be proud that their country hasn't bent over and taken it in the ass from America like some other countries have.
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thats what i've been saying dawg...I can't stand it when i ask an iranian person where they're from and they say"I'm persian"...which isn't answering the question...I said...where r u FROM...the answer should be a location...not an ethnicity muhfuckazzz...most IRANIANS say that they're persian because it sounds better and less threatening than iranian...like iran is a"TERRORIST" country or some shit...pfffwww...
Word!
That's kind of how I see it. They shouldn't be ashamed to be from Iran though. A lot of people are really interested to meet, get to know, and be friends with an Iranian. They shouldn't assume everyone just thinks they are a terrorist or something. It's usually the opposite that people are curious and would like to know more about them. So it's better to open up.
And Iranians should be proud that their country hasn't bent over and taken it in the ass from America like some other countries have.
8) 8) 8)
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Ok well thanks to old dirty ass tech for clearing that up + 1 nigga.
That being said I wish more Iranians would identify themselves as such, and not some vague majestic sounding term out of shame and self image problems.
Rich Iranian style sounds like some sick Ghostface Killah line where as, "Oh, I'm from a wealthy Persian family" just makes you sound like a whitewashed upper middle class loser.
Shout out to my Iranians..
I will be in Fresno this weekend (huge Armenian community, half cousins) and would love to shoot the shit and see where they stand on that...
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Persians are my niggas.
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It's not that big of a deal... SOmetimes Ill say Persian, sometimes Iranian. Never gave it that much thought lol, nohing to do with pride or shame or anything...
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there are multiple reasons for that:
1) we get faster through western security at airports, and also attract western bitches a lot easier.
2) it sounds more positive like the the Prince of Persia, unlike Iran, which is immediately associated with NUKES/WAR/HATE OF THE US/TERRORISM for you.
3) we've been called Persians since a couple of thousands of years ago, and only Iranian since less than 75 years.
4) technically both terms are officially accepted to refer to the country, but Iran is often used only for the country itself, while the term Persia refers to the culture, race, etc...
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Not to mention that the term "Persian" is non existent in Farsi.
The language is Farsi, the land Pars, the people Aryan.
The term IS existant: It's Parsi, with a P. But because of the fucking Arabic influence the P changed in an F.
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Not to mention that the term "Persian" is non existent in Farsi.
The language is Farsi, the land Pars, the people Aryan.
The term IS existant: It's Parsi, with a P. But because of the fucking Arabic influence the P changed in an F.
already taken care of son...
Not to mention that the term "Persian" is non existent in Farsi.
The language is Farsi, the land Pars, the people Aryan.
word son...
well its actually parsi...with a p...not farsi...
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This is a very tricky situation
Iran refers to a country, and every citizen of Iran is called an Iranian
Iranians however refer to themselves as Persian which is the name of the ancient empire. But its actually a mistake, an attempt to monopolize the use of that term
not true, it is absolutely NOT a mistake: In the outside world, the official name of Iran from the 6th century BC until 1935 was Persia or similar foreign language translations (La Perse, Das Persien, Perzie, etc.). In that year, Reza Shah asked the international community to call the country by the name "Iran". A few years later, some Persian scholars protested to the government that changing the name had separated the country from its past, so in 1959 Mohammad Reza Shah announced that both terms could officially be used interchangeably.
If we use the Persian empire as a barometer of what is considered a Persian, then Azeris, Armenians (who actually speak an ancient Persian language), Kurds, Iranians, Tajiks and Pashtuns are considered Persians because these peoples lands made up the Persian empire. Plus the intermingling of Parthian, Scythian and Medes genes plus to some extent semetic on the western part and dravidian on the eastern part.
Well, then you should NOT use it as a barometer, otherwise, even Egyptians and Ethiopians would be considered Persians.
If we use the Indo Iranian linguistic group as the barometer for Persians, then we include Pakistanis and Balotch
Technically the most correct interpretation would be that all Persian speakers can be considered Persian. But Farsi is the official language in Afghanistan and Tajikistan. Tajiks infact means eastern Iranians, usually Sunni Muslim.
But when an Afghan Farsi speaker (not Pashtun cuz we would never claim persian) claims to be Persian, he is made fun of for being a wannabe. But then an Azeri or Turkic descended Iranian can claim Persian? Makes no sense.
They are not made fun of as much as you might think
Many of the Persian empires notables, warriors and poets came from modern day Afghanistan like Balkhi, Rumi and Jalaludin Afghani.
What is this supposed to mean? When they want independence then they're like "Ow were not Iranian, were Afghans!!" but when we talk about these great men, then they're suddenly all Persians? Fuck that
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Professor, it seems like u missed my point
my point is that the term Persian is not solely reflective of Iranians. Tajiks and some Afghans are just as Persian as Iranians, but there are some Iranians who are dismissive of non Iranians as Persians. So I pointed out examples of Persian notables who are claimed by Iranians as Persians, but others from the same place are not
Comprende?>
Btw, can you provide proof that the term Persian exists in Farsi?....Because I will stand corrected if you do. I have never heard anyone say MA PERSIAN ASTOM..SHUMA PERSIAN ASTEE. ETC
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Professor, it seems like u missed my point
my point is that the term Persian is not solely reflective of Iranians. Tajiks and some Afghans are just as Persian as Iranians, but there are some Iranians who are dismissive of non Iranians as Persians. So I pointed out examples of Persian notables who are claimed by Iranians as Persians, but others from the same place are not
Comprende?>
Btw, can you provide proof that the term Persian exists in Farsi?....Because I will stand corrected if you do. I have never heard anyone say MAN PERSIAN HASTAM..SHUMA PERSIAN HASTEED. ETC
I understand what you were trying to say, but the way you wrote it might have been misinterpreted by other readers.
Nomenclature
Persian, the more widely used name of the language in English, is an Anglicized form derived from Latin *Persianus < Latin Persia < Greek Πέρσις Pérsis, a Hellenized form of Old Persian Parsa. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the term Persian seems to have been first used in English in the mid-16th century.[9] Native Persian speakers call it "Fārsi" (local name) or Parsi. Farsi is the arabicized form of Parsi, due to a lack of the /p/ phoneme in Standard Arabic.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language
Fars is the original homeland of the Persian people. The native name of the Persian language is Fârsi or Pârsi. Persia and Persian both derive from the Hellenized form Πέρσις Persis of the root word Pârs. The Old Persian word was Pârsâ.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fars_province
btw I am Persian, but from the way you wrote that sentence I think you aren't lol...jk homie...where you from??
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Professor, it seems like u missed my point
my point is that the term Persian is not solely reflective of Iranians. Tajiks and some Afghans are just as Persian as Iranians, but there are some Iranians who are dismissive of non Iranians as Persians. So I pointed out examples of Persian notables who are claimed by Iranians as Persians, but others from the same place are not
Comprende?>
Btw, can you provide proof that the term Persian exists in Farsi?....Because I will stand corrected if you do. I have never heard anyone say MAN PERSIAN HASTAM..SHUMA PERSIAN HASTEED. ETC
I understand what you were trying to say, but the way you wrote it might have been misinterpreted by other readers.
Nomenclature
Persian, the more widely used name of the language in English, is an Anglicized form derived from Latin *Persianus < Latin Persia < Greek Πέρσις Pérsis, a Hellenized form of Old Persian Parsa. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the term Persian seems to have been first used in English in the mid-16th century.[9] Native Persian speakers call it "Fārsi" (local name) or Parsi. Farsi is the arabicized form of Parsi, due to a lack of the /p/ phoneme in Standard Arabic.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language
Fars is the original homeland of the Persian people. The native name of the Persian language is Fârsi or Pârsi. Persia and Persian both derive from the Hellenized form Πέρσις Persis of the root word Pârs. The Old Persian word was Pârsâ.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fars_province
btw I am Persian, but from the way you wrote that sentence I think you aren't lol...jk homie...where you from??
Your assumption is right.
Ma Irani nestom. Afghan astom. Pashtun to be exact. Kamak farsi yad gereftem, kho Farsi E Afghanistan hast. Its more "Kitabi" than the Iranian farsi. Maybe that explains the slight differences in pronounciation.
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That's crazy that in Cali it's so many different ethnicities and shit. In Florida, I have yet to run into ANY Persian.
Only time I see a Middle Eastern to be honest is at the Arab Sto
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If you come from ol' school families, they're going to be referring to themselves as Persian. If that's how you were brought up, then so be it. The Persians have thousands of years of history, the name "Iranian" ain't even 100 years old. Plus, most families hate the new regime anyway, it's fucked up the country and brought no real progress. It's these new-school "Iranians" that want to kill the "Persian" name, but there's a huge legacy that is left behind and the real descendants of the Persian people refuse to let it die.
A lot of Afghans and Armenians refer to themselves as Persian also. Why wouldn't that be accepted? They might call them wannabes in white-washed Persian communities in Southern California, but out in the homeland, it's widely accepted because of the history. They might all be separated in different gangs and tribes, but it's still all Persian.
@ thread starter.. where in the Bay Area you stay at?
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If you come from ol' school families, they're going to be referring to themselves as Persian. If that's how you were brought up, then so be it. The Persians have thousands of years of history, the name "Iranian" ain't even 100 years old. Plus, most families hate the new regime anyway, it's fucked up the country and brought no real progress. It's these new-school "Iranians" that want to kill the "Persian" name, but there's a huge legacy that is left behind and the real descendants of the Persian people refuse to let it die.
A lot of Afghans and Armenians refer to themselves as Persian also. Why wouldn't that be accepted? They might call them wannabes in white-washed Persian communities in Southern California, but out in the homeland, it's widely accepted because of the history. They might all be separated in different gangs and tribes, but it's still all Persian.
@ thread starter.. where in the Bay Area you stay at?
u could not have been more wrong...i can't find one TRUE statement in ur post homie,except for the underlined part...
ur either in denial or extremely stupid....u choose...
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Explain what I'm in denial about? You presented no facts, where is your "true statements"? Get tha fuck outta here, am I supposed to respect a kid with an email like: gpac_thuglife@yahoo.com ?? Fuck no.
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Explain what I'm in denial about? You presented no facts, where is your "true statements"? Get tha fuck outta here, am I supposed to respect a kid with an email like: gpac_thuglife@yahoo.com ?? Fuck no.
game over
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Rod is trippin. most old school families refer to themselves as Iranian, not Persian...the name Iranian goes way past 100 years. To top it off, Afghans are not treated the same as Iranians in Iran. LOL@that claim...Rod is way off. checkmate deez nutz.
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I never said they are "treated" the same. But there are some Afghans who are considered Persian over there and here nonetheless, from the land of Pars.
LOL @ what the fuck do you know about ol' school families? We ain't talking about "Iranians" from Southern California here, that's a whole different world. You're only speaking on what you know kickin it with snobby Middle Eastern cats over there in rich town USA. It's easy for a nerdy ass Jew to speak on what goes in the actual area when he's never even been there.
Persians and Iranians are the same thing bottomline. The technicality of it is Middle Eastern business that none of you others really need to concern yourselves with.
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checkmate deez nutz
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I never said they are "treated" the same. But there are some Afghans who are considered Persian over there and here nonetheless, from the land of Pars.
LOL @ what the fuck do you know about ol' school families? We ain't talking about "Iranians" from Southern California here, that's a whole different world. You're only speaking on what you know kickin it with snobby Middle Eastern cats over there in rich town USA. It's easy for a nerdy ass Jew to speak on what goes in the actual area when he's never even been there.
Persians and Iranians are the same thing bottomline. The technicality of it is Middle Eastern business that none of you others really need to concern yourselves with.
LMFAO @ NIK clowning on u son...i didn't even wanna reply to ur post because i know u really don't know shit based on ur first post...i go to iran 2-3 times a year...how often do u go???i went to school there for 9 years...up till my Junior year in highschool...how many years did u go to school in iran???oh...and ROFLMMFAO @ u keep bringin' up "so-cal" persians as an example...just because u c some fagot ass iranian FOB's cruisin' the streets of BH and WH wit their hair spiked 3 feet into the air doesn't mean that all so-cal iranians r like that...maybe the foo's u kick it wit r the homo's u refer to...but the iranians i kick it wit r nothing like that...
"the name "Iranian" ain't even 100 years old." : r u fuckin kiddin me cuddie?Iran means "land of the Aryans"...or if ur still in touch wit ur iranian roots i'll say it in farsi muhfucka...iran yani sarzamineh aryaee ha bacheh kooni...iranians were always known as iranians amongst themselves...not persians...persian is a english word idiot...thats like us americans calling people from germany,german...do u think they call themselves german?they call themselves dutch...that example isn't exactly what i was going for...but if u don't get the point by know my friend...u should might as well move to socal and spike ur hair and mingle wit ur fagot ass "persians" that u know of...
"am I supposed to respect a kid with an email like: gpac_thuglife@yahoo.com ?? Fuck no." : I made that e-mail address when i was like 12 or some shit...so whats ur point?
"But there are some Afghans who are considered Persian over there" : how the fuck can a afghan b persian u dumbass???persian=fars...afghans r not fars...unless they're a mix...but afghans r not persian...they could b...but thats like saying a arab could b persian...yes...if a arab dick goes in a fars pussy...the kid could be a persian-arab...comprende???
"Persians and Iranians are the same thing bottomline" : nope...u could b a kurd and b iranian...but that doesn't make u persian...me myself...i'm 50% fars(persian),10%tork(not turks from turkey...but torks from the north-western part of Iran i.e. cities like tabriz,ardebil,moghawn,salmaas,meshkin shahr,etc.etc.)30%kurd and
10% russian...(I did some research on my family tree for my Humanities/Sociology class last semester...thats why I know all these percentages...easiest A+ ever haha...)
"most families hate the new regime anyway, it's fucked up the country and brought no real progress." : 5% of the population held more than 90% of the wealth when the shah was in power where now the wealth in iran is spread out much more...which means progress...
I really didn't wanna make u look stupid "Zilla"...but know i realize that it was inevitable...we have an old saying in Iran..."bozak namir bahar miad...khompozeh ba khiar miad"...now ur the bozak and i brought the khiar...and u just got raped...(lol...that shit sounds so funny right now...old iranian sayings make alot more sense when ur blazed,lol)...
SHITTYRUNFUN SON
watch out nukkah...i just busted one on u,lol...PEACE...8) 8) 8)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/Sheaboy/JizzyGif.gif)
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I never said they are "treated" the same. But there are some Afghans who are considered Persian over there and here nonetheless, from the land of Pars.
LOL @ what the fuck do you know about ol' school families? We ain't talking about "Iranians" from Southern California here, that's a whole different world. You're only speaking on what you know kickin it with snobby Middle Eastern cats over there in rich town USA. It's easy for a nerdy ass Jew to speak on what goes in the actual area when he's never even been there.
Persians and Iranians are the same thing bottomline. The technicality of it is Middle Eastern business that none of you others really need to concern yourselves with.
youre an idiot, point blank...you front like you're hard and call people nerds, but the fact of the matter is you still just a lil persian iranian pussy who likes to talk himself up to feel better about his image. i got my info off of people who lived in iran, you smelly fuck. now go try to front like you're some persian iranian crip somewhere else, son.
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I never said they are "treated" the same. But there are some Afghans who are considered Persian over there and here nonetheless, from the land of Pars.
LOL @ what the fuck do you know about ol' school families? We ain't talking about "Iranians" from Southern California here, that's a whole different world. You're only speaking on what you know kickin it with snobby Middle Eastern cats over there in rich town USA. It's easy for a nerdy ass Jew to speak on what goes in the actual area when he's never even been there.
Persians and Iranians are the same thing bottomline. The technicality of it is Middle Eastern business that none of you others really need to concern yourselves with.
LMFAO @ NIK clowning on u son...i didn't even wanna reply to ur post because i know u really don't know shit based on ur first post...i go to iran 2-3 times a year...how often do u go???i went to school there for 9 years...up till my Junior year in highschool...how many years did u go to school in iran???oh...and ROFLMMFAO @ u keep bringin' up "so-cal" persians as an example...just because u c some fagot ass iranian FOB's cruisin' the streets of BH and WH wit their hair spiked 3 feet into the air doesn't mean that all so-cal iranians r like that...maybe the foo's u kick it wit r the homo's u refer to...but the iranians i kick it wit r nothing like that...
"the name "Iranian" ain't even 100 years old." : r u fuckin kiddin me cuddie?Iran means "land of the Aryans"...or if ur still in touch wit ur iranian roots i'll say it in farsi muhfucka...iran yani sarzamineh aryaee ha bacheh kooni...iranians were always known as iranians amongst themselves...not persians...persian is a english word idiot...thats like us americans calling people from germany,german...do u think they call themselves german?they call themselves dutch...that example isn't exactly what i was going for...but if u don't get the point by know my friend...u should might as well move to socal and spike ur hair and mingle wit ur fagot ass "persians" that u know of...
"am I supposed to respect a kid with an email like: gpac_thuglife@yahoo.com ?? Fuck no." : I made that e-mail address when i was like 12 or some shit...so whats ur point?
"But there are some Afghans who are considered Persian over there" : how the fuck can a afghan b persian u dumbass???persian=fars...afghans r not fars...unless they're a mix...but afghans r not persian...they could b...but thats like saying a arab could b persian...yes...if a arab dick goes in a fars pussy...the kid could be a persian-arab...comprende???
"Persians and Iranians are the same thing bottomline" : nope...u could b a kurd and b iranian...but that doesn't make u persian...me myself...i'm 50% fars(persian),10%tork(not turks from turkey...but torks from the north-western part of Iran i.e. cities like tabriz,ardebil,moghawn,salmaas,meshkin shahr,etc.etc.)30%kurd and
10% russian...(I did some research on my family tree for my Humanities/Sociology class last semester...thats why I know all these percentages...easiest A+ ever haha...)
"most families hate the new regime anyway, it's fucked up the country and brought no real progress." : 5% of the population held more than 90% of the wealth when the shah was in power where now the wealth in iran is spread out much more...which means progress...
I really didn't wanna make u look stupid "Zilla"...but know i realize that it was inevitable...we have an old saying in Iran..."bozak namir bahar miad...khompozeh ba khiar miad"...now ur the bozak and i brought the khiar...and u just got raped...(lol...that shit sounds so funny right now...old iranian sayings make alot more sense when ur blazed,lol)...
SHITTYRUNFUN SON
watch out nukkah...i just busted one on u,lol...PEACE...8) 8) 8)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/Sheaboy/JizzyGif.gif)
(http://versetti.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/suge-knockout1.jpg)
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ha ha wait for a response before declaring a win. See, all you're doing is twisting the truth my friend. This is really a complex issue since the history is do deep.
But check it, Persia has always been used as an official name for Iran by the WEST. This was all until March 21, 1935 when the SHAH put out some kinda demand to the foreign delegates of the world and formally changed the name. Yes, there were certain Indo-European Aryans using the word "Iran" for certain parts since damn near Christ times, but it's the GREATER IRAN that is classified as Persia. Ever heard of that term? I doubt it.. but you can not deny it. The Persian were the people who were inhabiting Iran. When the Persians took over lands in those times, the name Persian came with them. It was stuck for thousands of years. Reza SHAH was just a person with a European mentality and wanted to white-wash the country back to the traditional Aryan way of labeling the land. And he was successful at it, he even allied with America and did bring some real progress. But it did backfire at the same time, which I'm not going to get into. Ever wondered why the people in Shiraz are much darker than the people in Tehran? South v.s North? The North is closer to Europe, and the South is closer to Africa. When the Persians came in and took over for so many generations, they had kids with all kinds of people. From mating with Mazandaranis and Azeris to people from Balooch, Iranian Arabs (which is a real ethnic group) and beyond. Bottomline is that the Persians are dominant after thousands of years. We are no longer Indo-European. Our blood is filled up with all kinds of other shit, it's integrated. It's PERSIAN!
When you meet an Afghan who speaks Farsi, that's PERSIAN. But not all Afghans speak that, some speak Arabic. Therefore, some Afghans from certain areas are Persian since they have roots in the land with the ethnic group. It's not too hard to understand.
History has separated us so wide, and if you grew up in the type of family who hates on Afghans for example.. then ofcourse you will be biased and racist. Since the history is so deep and complex, you can twist it into any way you want to prove a point. But at the end of the day, we all the same, quit whining.
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ha ha wait for a response before declaring a win. See, all you're doing is twisting the truth my friend. This is really a complex issue since the history is do deep.
But check it, Persia has always been used as an official name for Iran by the WEST. This was all until March 21, 1935 when the SHAH put out some kinda demand to the foreign delegates of the world and formally changed the name. Yes, there were certain Indo-European Aryans using the word "Iran" for certain parts since damn near Christ times, but it's the GREATER IRAN that is classified as Persia. Ever heard of that term? I doubt it.. but you can not deny it. The Persian were the people who were inhabiting Iran. When the Persians took over lands in those times, the name Persian came with them. It was stuck for thousands of years. Reza SHAH was just a person with a European mentality and wanted to white-wash the country back to the traditional Aryan way of labeling the land. And he was successful at it, he even allied with America and did bring some real progress. But it did backfire at the same time, which I'm not going to get into. Ever wondered why the people in Shiraz are much darker than the people in Tehran? South v.s North? The North is closer to Europe, and the South is closer to Africa. When the Persians came in and took over for so many generations, they had kids with all kinds of people. From mating with Mazandaranis and Azeris to people from Balooch, Iranian Arabs (which is a real ethnic group) and beyond. Bottomline is that the Persians are dominant after thousands of years. We are no longer Indo-European. Our blood is filled up with all kinds of other shit, it's integrated. It's PERSIAN!
When you meet an Afghan who speaks Farsi, that's PERSIAN. But not all Afghans speak that, some speak Arabic. Therefore, some Afghans from certain areas are Persian since they have roots in the land with the ethnic group. It's not too hard to understand.
History has separated us so wide, and if you grew up in the type of family who hates on Afghans for example.. then ofcourse you will be biased and racist. Since the history is so deep and complex, you can twist it into any way you want to prove a point. But at the end of the day, we all the same, quit whining.
WOW zilla...thanx for all the info,lmao...u didn't even answer any of my questions dawg?and just to clarify shit up I don't hate on afghans...why would I?but they do hate on afghans in iran...they get more shit than bahai's,jews,christians,etc.etc....
See, all you're doing is twisting the truth my friend : quote the parts of my post that i twisted the truth and elaborate on it if ur real cuzz...whats funny iz that YOU my friend r the one trying to weasel ur way out of ur first post which made absolutely no sense...and I proved that by breaking the shit down for ya...what u did was say I twisted shit up and u urself went on rambling about reza shah and his western(european) mentality???what the fuck does that have to do wit what i said???
From mating with Mazandaranis and Azeris to people from Balooch, Iranian Arabs (which is a real ethnic group) and beyond. : thats exactly what I said dawg...why r u just repeating what i said???can't u think of anything else...lol..."if a arab dick goes in a fars pussy...the kid is a persian-arab" thats what I said...sound familiar...
South is closer to Africa. : please tell me ur kidding...lmao...this is how I know ur talking out of ur ass cuddie...u got ur shit mixed up real bad huh?the reason the people from southern iran r darker is because they got racially mixed wit arabs...not africans,lol...whats funny is u even said that we have iranian-arabs...then bring p africans???
"Our blood is filled up with all kinds of other shit, it's integrated. It's PERSIAN!" : u sound so corny dawg,lol...u sound like some kid who keeps trying to fit in wit the iranians but they won't accept u...so u keep trying harder and harder and harder cuddie,lmao...and u saying our blood is filled up with all kinds of shit is something people say when they don't know what they r...what r u?and please don't b like one of these idiots who name cities that their parents were born in instead of ethnicities...thats just stupid dawg...what r u ethnically...(a stupid answer would b persian...unless ur 100% fars)...
but it's the GREATER IRAN that is classified as Persia. Ever heard of that term? I doubt it. : yes...i said that it was known as persia by the western countries...but iranians still called it iran...have u read any saa'di,mowlavi,hafez,aref qazvini,parveen e'tesami books?these poets date back more than a 100 years right???k...now if u read their poems(if u can read farsi) they ALWAYS refer to iran as "Iran" or "sarzamineh aryaee ha"...not persia...so u said it was known as persia up till "This was all until March 21, 1935",right?then tell me this kiddo...i'm sure u know who Victor Hugo is...the dude that wrote "binavayan" or "Les Misérables" if u don't know the farsi version...he lived from February 26, 1802 – May 22, 1885 OK?now imma do this real slow so u can understand it...do u know what victor hugo said about saadi...he called him "Iranian king" in poetry...so how would he call him "iranian" if the term wasn't used by the western world...he died b4 the shah officially changed it...i c what u said had some truth to it...but u said that the term iranian ain't even 100 years old,which it is way more old than that...how many times do I have to prove that to u cuzzz,lol...
u ain't makin any sense bruh,so...
FOR THOSE OF YA'LL CONCERNED...THIS IZ STILL ZILLA KILLA!!! lol...http://www.youtube.com/v/4HHa3Hak3lA&autoplay=0
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yo Ali what the fuck are you yapping about
some afghans are persians. they are an aryan people from the historic land of pars, who speak farsi. the fuck you think, the ancient persian empire was the current country of iran?
Afghanistan is the eastern half of the old persian empire, while Iran is the western half
And Rod you had it half right, the Afghans who areTajik are Persian, the non Persian Afghans dont speak Arabic they speak PASHTO.
Pashtuns are NOT persians, and they are the majority ethnicity in Afghanistan, however a significant portion of the Afghan population are PERSIAN. Alot more persian than your mixed ass Ali so I dont know why u would denounce thenm
and yeah Afghans get treated bad in Iran but thats because yall some bitch ass niggaz.
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yo Ali what the fuck are you yapping about
some afghans are persians. they are an aryan people from the historic land of pars, who speak farsi. the fuck you think, the ancient persian empire was the current country of iran?
Afghanistan is the eastern half of the old persian empire, while Iran is the western half
And Rod you had it half right, the Afghans who areTajik are Persian, the non Persian Afghans dont speak Arabic they speak PASHTO.
Pashtuns are NOT persians, and they are the majority ethnicity in Afghanistan, however a significant portion of the Afghan population are PERSIAN. Alot more persian than your mixed ass Ali so I dont know why u would denounce thenm
and yeah Afghans get treated bad in Iran but thats because yall some bitch ass niggaz.
ok so now u want some of this little girl...lol @ u attempting to beat me in a debate son...this ain't NIK homie...u can't just post bullshit and expect me to take it cuddie...wtf iz wrong wit u and zilla???u guys keep posting what i already said...
some afghans are persians. : hmmm...didn't I already say that..."but afghans r not persian...they could b"...did u even read my post muhfucka???I said some afghans could b persian...
the ancient persian empire was the current country of iran? : ummm yes...r u retarded???
Afghanistan is the eastern half of the old persian empire, while Iran is the western half : sorry...but ur wrong nigga...iran was the center...afghanistan was the eastern half...and the western half was all the way over in egypt...but over the years the kings kept losing parts of the country starting from the western part and then eventually all thats left of the land of "PARS" that u speak of is iran...
FUCK IT SON...I'M NOT GETTING PAYED TO TEACH U NIGGAZ...I'M OUT YOUNG'NZZZ...
P.S. : tech...sorry I had to school u too son...but its all good cuzz...atleast I know I'm making the world a better place letting you westernized middle easterners have the troof...now go and cry to your parents for not telling u guys the truth about ur ancestry...
p.p.s. : If I had to choose which one of u 2 idiots was more on point...I would have to say it was...DEEZ NUTS NUKKAH...LMAO...both of u katts r equally retarded...
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and yeah Afghans get treated bad in Iran but thats because yall some bitch ass niggaz. : thank u for repeating what i already said...thats whats wrong wit u afghans cuzzz...ya'll take shit personal...afghans r like mexicans in iran...they're a MINORITY...and all minorities get treated the same in every country...u don't c me bitchin @ americans and calling them bitch-ass niggaz because i get searched 8 times @ the airport,or when I can't get a job at dirty d's or jack in the crack cause I'm from the middle-east...life's hard son...either except it...or go and join ur uncle osama's gang and blow shit up...whatever u do...remember that at the end of the day...its all muslim baby... 8)
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and u saying our blood is filled up with all kinds of shit is something people say when they don't know what they r...what r u?and please don't b like one of these idiots who name cities that their parents were born in instead of ethnicities...thats just stupid dawg...what r u ethnically...(a stupid answer would b persian...unless ur 100% fars)...
You mean to tell me over 7,000 years of history and our blood isn't mixed with all kinds of shit? This argument could go on forever if I started presenting all the facts I have showing how our bloods are the MOST mixed in the whole entire history of the world. The Western part of the Persian Empire was all the way in Egypt somewhere, they were mating with people out there and coming back to the center. Especially when the Persian Rug trades went on, that's a lil info. I got from my OG uncle. But you're right, I couldn't say I'm 100% Persian because I simply don't know the technicalities like you do about my ancestors you fresh off the boat ass muthafuca. I'm a Northern California killa cuzzin, I'm nothing like you. And yes, I CAN say that I'm Persian and I will. Why? Because that's what the dominance is and was to the West of the world where my home is, that's what we know it as.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Iran-Ethnicity-2004.PNG/300px-Iran-Ethnicity-2004.PNG)
The green is where the PERSIANS are from in modern times. Back then it was much bigger even.
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and u saying our blood is filled up with all kinds of shit is something people say when they don't know what they r...what r u?and please don't b like one of these idiots who name cities that their parents were born in instead of ethnicities...thats just stupid dawg...what r u ethnically...(a stupid answer would b persian...unless ur 100% fars)...
You mean to tell me over 7,000 years of history and our blood isn't mixed with all kinds of shit? This argument could go on forever if I started presenting all the facts I have showing how our bloods are the MOST mixed in the whole entire history of the world. The Western part of the Persian Empire was all the way in Egypt somewhere, they were mating with people out there and coming back to the center. Especially when the Persian Rug trades went on, that's a lil info. I got from my OG uncle. But you're right, I couldn't say I'm 100% Persian because I simply don't know the technicalities like you do about my ancestors you fresh off the boat ass muthafuca. I'm a Northern California killa cuzzin, I'm nothing like you. And yes, I CAN say that I'm Persian and I will. Why? Because that's what the dominance is and was to the West of the world where my home is, that's what we know it as.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Iran-Ethnicity-2004.PNG/300px-Iran-Ethnicity-2004.PNG)
The green is where the PERSIANS are from in modern times. Back then it was much bigger even.
lol @ u calling me a FOB...i was born in ocean side california dawg...and u supposed to b hard cuzzz u from the yay...i got katts all the way from tycoon city up 2 stockton cuddie...where u supposed to b from liitle girl???
and again...why do u guys keep repeating what i say...
The Western part of the Persian Empire was all the way in Egypt somewhere, they were mating with people out there and coming back to the center. : why don't u just quote me instead of plagiarizing my shit bruh..."iran was the center...afghanistan was the eastern half...and the western half was all the way over in egypt..."
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^ Right, so if you agree with that, then you agree with most of what I'm saying.
Ocean Side? That's coo.. I been there.. but where is Tycoon City? LOL.. I'm from the West Bay.. East Side San Bruno, 5 to 10 minutes south of SF.. Airport City, the TRENCH!
The reason I studied the Persian Empire a couple of years back on my own was because I'm not close to any Persians/Iranians. There isn't too many of em where I'm from. So I'm only speaking on what I remember from my readings and speaking to family members. I'm not your typical Persian, but I get along with them just fine. Except the L.A. ones, I just don't see eye to eye with them white-washed characters. My cousins out here are just a bunch of hustlers that can sell snow to an eskimo, nothing like the ones in the South. It's crazy how many different set of Persians you'll find in this world.
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and u saying our blood is filled up with all kinds of shit is something people say when they don't know what they r...what r u?and please don't b like one of these idiots who name cities that their parents were born in instead of ethnicities...thats just stupid dawg...what r u ethnically...(a stupid answer would b persian...unless ur 100% fars)...
You mean to tell me over 7,000 years of history and our blood isn't mixed with all kinds of shit? This argument could go on forever if I started presenting all the facts I have showing how our bloods are the MOST mixed in the whole entire history of the world. The Western part of the Persian Empire was all the way in Egypt somewhere, they were mating with people out there and coming back to the center. Especially when the Persian Rug trades went on, that's a lil info. I got from my OG uncle. But you're right, I couldn't say I'm 100% Persian because I simply don't know the technicalities like you do about my ancestors you fresh off the boat ass muthafuca. I'm a Northern California killa cuzzin, I'm nothing like you. And yes, I CAN say that I'm Persian and I will. Why? Because that's what the dominance is and was to the West of the world where my home is, that's what we know it as.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Iran-Ethnicity-2004.PNG/300px-Iran-Ethnicity-2004.PNG)
The green is where the PERSIANS are from in modern times. Back then it was much bigger even.
lol @ u calling me a FOB...i was born in ocean side california dawg...and u supposed to b hard cuzzz u from the yay...i got katts all the way from tycoon city up 2 stockton cuddie...where u supposed to b from liitle girl???
and again...why do u guys keep repeating what i say...
The Western part of the Persian Empire was all the way in Egypt somewhere, they were mating with people out there and coming back to the center. : why don't u just quote me instead of plagiarizing my shit bruh..."iran was the center...afghanistan was the eastern half...and the western half was all the way over in egypt..."
born in oceanside? Damn...i aint think anybody was BORN in oceanside lol.
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and u saying our blood is filled up with all kinds of shit is something people say when they don't know what they r...what r u?and please don't b like one of these idiots who name cities that their parents were born in instead of ethnicities...thats just stupid dawg...what r u ethnically...(a stupid answer would b persian...unless ur 100% fars)...
You mean to tell me over 7,000 years of history and our blood isn't mixed with all kinds of shit? This argument could go on forever if I started presenting all the facts I have showing how our bloods are the MOST mixed in the whole entire history of the world. The Western part of the Persian Empire was all the way in Egypt somewhere, they were mating with people out there and coming back to the center. Especially when the Persian Rug trades went on, that's a lil info. I got from my OG uncle. But you're right, I couldn't say I'm 100% Persian because I simply don't know the technicalities like you do about my ancestors you fresh off the boat ass muthafuca. I'm a Northern California killa cuzzin, I'm nothing like you. And yes, I CAN say that I'm Persian and I will. Why? Because that's what the dominance is and was to the West of the world where my home is, that's what we know it as.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Iran-Ethnicity-2004.PNG/300px-Iran-Ethnicity-2004.PNG)
The green is where the PERSIANS are from in modern times. Back then it was much bigger even.
lol @ u calling me a FOB...i was born in ocean side california dawg...and u supposed to b hard cuzzz u from the yay...i got katts all the way from tycoon city up 2 stockton cuddie...where u supposed to b from liitle girl???
and again...why do u guys keep repeating what i say...
The Western part of the Persian Empire was all the way in Egypt somewhere, they were mating with people out there and coming back to the center. : why don't u just quote me instead of plagiarizing my shit bruh..."iran was the center...afghanistan was the eastern half...and the western half was all the way over in egypt..."
born in oceanside? Damn...i aint think anybody was BORN in oceanside lol.
lmao...yeah bruh...i get that a lot...I said i was born IN oceanside,its a city in cali...not ON the oceanside,lol...
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^ Right, so if you agree with that, then you agree with most of what I'm saying.
Ocean Side? That's coo.. I been there.. but where is Tycoon City? LOL.. I'm from the West Bay.. East Side San Bruno, 5 to 10 minutes south of SF.. Airport City, the TRENCH!
The reason I studied the Persian Empire a couple of years back on my own was because I'm not close to any Persians/Iranians. There isn't too many of em where I'm from. So I'm only speaking on what I remember from my readings and speaking to family members. I'm not your typical Persian, but I get along with them just fine. Except the L.A. ones, I just don't see eye to eye with them white-washed characters. My cousins out here are just a bunch of hustlers that can sell snow to an eskimo, nothing like the ones in the South. It's crazy how many different set of Persians you'll find in this world.
tycoon city=san jose... 8) 8) 8)
Thats chill that u did some research about ur ancestors...but shit must've been a long ass time ago cuzz u got some of the facts mixed up...u got most of it down...but some of ur shit was wrong dawg...like the persian empire isn't 7000 years old...the persians came to power in 576 B.C.E.,b4 them were the Sumerians and Hittites and all them katts...most persians just assume that because people used to live in our land up till 7000 years ago that they were persian...they lived in the same land...but the persians came along way after...
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and u saying our blood is filled up with all kinds of shit is something people say when they don't know what they r...what r u?and please don't b like one of these idiots who name cities that their parents were born in instead of ethnicities...thats just stupid dawg...what r u ethnically...(a stupid answer would b persian...unless ur 100% fars)...
You mean to tell me over 7,000 years of history and our blood isn't mixed with all kinds of shit? This argument could go on forever if I started presenting all the facts I have showing how our bloods are the MOST mixed in the whole entire history of the world. The Western part of the Persian Empire was all the way in Egypt somewhere, they were mating with people out there and coming back to the center. Especially when the Persian Rug trades went on, that's a lil info. I got from my OG uncle. But you're right, I couldn't say I'm 100% Persian because I simply don't know the technicalities like you do about my ancestors you fresh off the boat ass muthafuca. I'm a Northern California killa cuzzin, I'm nothing like you. And yes, I CAN say that I'm Persian and I will. Why? Because that's what the dominance is and was to the West of the world where my home is, that's what we know it as.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Iran-Ethnicity-2004.PNG/300px-Iran-Ethnicity-2004.PNG)
The green is where the PERSIANS are from in modern times. Back then it was much bigger even.
lol @ u calling me a FOB...i was born in ocean side california dawg...and u supposed to b hard cuzzz u from the yay...i got katts all the way from tycoon city up 2 stockton cuddie...where u supposed to b from liitle girl???
and again...why do u guys keep repeating what i say...
The Western part of the Persian Empire was all the way in Egypt somewhere, they were mating with people out there and coming back to the center. : why don't u just quote me instead of plagiarizing my shit bruh..."iran was the center...afghanistan was the eastern half...and the western half was all the way over in egypt..."
born in oceanside? Damn...i aint think anybody was BORN in oceanside lol.
lmao...yeah bruh...i get that a lot...I said i was born IN oceanside,its a city in cali...not ON the oceanside,lol...
i know man. Im in SD lol. Im sayin, Oceanside is like 80% military.....not too often you find somebody who was born there.
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and u saying our blood is filled up with all kinds of shit is something people say when they don't know what they r...what r u?and please don't b like one of these idiots who name cities that their parents were born in instead of ethnicities...thats just stupid dawg...what r u ethnically...(a stupid answer would b persian...unless ur 100% fars)...
You mean to tell me over 7,000 years of history and our blood isn't mixed with all kinds of shit? This argument could go on forever if I started presenting all the facts I have showing how our bloods are the MOST mixed in the whole entire history of the world. The Western part of the Persian Empire was all the way in Egypt somewhere, they were mating with people out there and coming back to the center. Especially when the Persian Rug trades went on, that's a lil info. I got from my OG uncle. But you're right, I couldn't say I'm 100% Persian because I simply don't know the technicalities like you do about my ancestors you fresh off the boat ass muthafuca. I'm a Northern California killa cuzzin, I'm nothing like you. And yes, I CAN say that I'm Persian and I will. Why? Because that's what the dominance is and was to the West of the world where my home is, that's what we know it as.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Iran-Ethnicity-2004.PNG/300px-Iran-Ethnicity-2004.PNG)
The green is where the PERSIANS are from in modern times. Back then it was much bigger even.
lol @ u calling me a FOB...i was born in ocean side california dawg...and u supposed to b hard cuzzz u from the yay...i got katts all the way from tycoon city up 2 stockton cuddie...where u supposed to b from liitle girl???
and again...why do u guys keep repeating what i say...
The Western part of the Persian Empire was all the way in Egypt somewhere, they were mating with people out there and coming back to the center. : why don't u just quote me instead of plagiarizing my shit bruh..."iran was the center...afghanistan was the eastern half...and the western half was all the way over in egypt..."
born in oceanside? Damn...i aint think anybody was BORN in oceanside lol.
lmao...yeah bruh...i get that a lot...I said i was born IN oceanside,its a city in cali...not ON the oceanside,lol...
i know man. Im in SD lol. Im sayin, Oceanside is like 80% military.....not too often you find somebody who was born there.
oh, and Oceanside is only a city cus San Diego allows it to be 8)
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and u saying our blood is filled up with all kinds of shit is something people say when they don't know what they r...what r u?and please don't b like one of these idiots who name cities that their parents were born in instead of ethnicities...thats just stupid dawg...what r u ethnically...(a stupid answer would b persian...unless ur 100% fars)...
You mean to tell me over 7,000 years of history and our blood isn't mixed with all kinds of shit? This argument could go on forever if I started presenting all the facts I have showing how our bloods are the MOST mixed in the whole entire history of the world. The Western part of the Persian Empire was all the way in Egypt somewhere, they were mating with people out there and coming back to the center. Especially when the Persian Rug trades went on, that's a lil info. I got from my OG uncle. But you're right, I couldn't say I'm 100% Persian because I simply don't know the technicalities like you do about my ancestors you fresh off the boat ass muthafuca. I'm a Northern California killa cuzzin, I'm nothing like you. And yes, I CAN say that I'm Persian and I will. Why? Because that's what the dominance is and was to the West of the world where my home is, that's what we know it as.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Iran-Ethnicity-2004.PNG/300px-Iran-Ethnicity-2004.PNG)
The green is where the PERSIANS are from in modern times. Back then it was much bigger even.
lol @ u calling me a FOB...i was born in ocean side california dawg...and u supposed to b hard cuzzz u from the yay...i got katts all the way from tycoon city up 2 stockton cuddie...where u supposed to b from liitle girl???
and again...why do u guys keep repeating what i say...
The Western part of the Persian Empire was all the way in Egypt somewhere, they were mating with people out there and coming back to the center. : why don't u just quote me instead of plagiarizing my shit bruh..."iran was the center...afghanistan was the eastern half...and the western half was all the way over in egypt..."
born in oceanside? Damn...i aint think anybody was BORN in oceanside lol.
lmao...yeah bruh...i get that a lot...I said i was born IN oceanside,its a city in cali...not ON the oceanside,lol...
i know man. Im in SD lol. Im sayin, Oceanside is like 80% military.....not too often you find somebody who was born there.
oh, and Oceanside is only a city cus San Diego allows it to be 8)
Does that make SD gangsta or something? Who gives a fuck man lol
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ok so now u want some of this little girl...lol @ u attempting to beat me in a debate son...this ain't NIK homie...u can't just post bullshit and expect me to take it cuddie...wtf iz wrong wit u and zilla???u guys keep posting what i already said...
some afghans are persians. : hmmm...didn't I already say that..."but afghans r not persian...they could b"...did u even read my post muhfucka???I said some afghans could b persian...
the ancient persian empire was the current country of iran? : ummm yes...r u retarded???
Afghanistan is the eastern half of the old persian empire, while Iran is the western half : sorry...but ur wrong nigga...iran was the center...afghanistan was the eastern half...and the western half was all the way over in egypt...but over the years the kings kept losing parts of the country starting from the western part and then eventually all thats left of the land of "PARS" that u speak of is iran...
FUCK IT SON...I'M NOT GETTING PAYED TO TEACH U NIGGAZ...I'M OUT YOUNG'NZZZ...
P.S. : tech...sorry I had to school u too son...but its all good cuzz...atleast I know I'm making the world a better place letting you westernized middle easterners have the troof...now go and cry to your parents for not telling u guys the truth about ur ancestry...
p.p.s. : If I had to choose which one of u 2 idiots was more on point...I would have to say it was...DEEZ NUTS NUKKAH...LMAO...both of u katts r equally retarded...
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Stupid child
You keep saying, that we're repeating what you said. No monkey, I am not repeating what youre saying. Because youre saying nothing.
Oh, your fingers are moving across the keyboard...dont get me wrong "ali". But youre saying nothing..
I dont know how youre so stupid that you cant see how stupid you are.
You said that you admit Afghans could be Persians. No you fucking chooch, you didnt just say that
"how the fuck can a afghan b persian u dumbass???persian=fars...afghans r not fars...unless they're a mix...but afghans r not persian...they could b...but thats like saying a arab could b persian...yes...if a arab dick goes in a fars pussy...the kid could be a persian-arab...comprende???"
This is what you said. You started the sentence by saying how the fuck can a Afghan be Persian. This denotes a negative connotation. You just said you positively affirmed what I was saying. Is the stupidity of your post starting to dawn on you?
Then you say, that Afghans are not Fars. You say they could be Persians the way some Arabs could be Persian, through INTER MIXING/BREEDING. Afghan Tajiks ARE Persian. Arabs are not an Iranian people, Afghans are.
The western provinces of Afghanistan is called Khorosan. It is connected to eastern Iranian province/region called Khorosan. It is the eastern ancient Persian province. In the last 200-300 years ago the Persians controlled modern day Herat, and at times the Afghans controlled Isfahan and Mashad. Western Afghanistan is dominated by Tajiks. Significant portion of them are even Shia. They are an Iranian people. They are Aryans. They speak Farsi. The people of Fars extends into Central Asia. Tajikistan is a Farsi speaking country. They are Persians with turkic mixtures. Is the stupidity of your post starting to marinate in your head?
Ibn Sina was from these areas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Sina
Rumi was from these areas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumi
Every Persian empire throughout history has included Afghanistan or at least the western part of it. In fact, while parts of Arabia and Africa were held briefly by the Persians, parts of Anatolia, Afghanistan and central Asia have always been Persian. Pars province is one region, but the historic lands of Persia include Iran, Afghanistan, parts of central Asia, Iraq and the Persian gulf, and a reach into the north, parts of Azerbaijan and Armenia.
Every Persian empire had its eastern border at modern day Afghanistan, occasionally reaching into India, from the Medians to the Achaemids to the Parthians to the Sassanids to the Safavids.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Empire
The only difference between the Central Asia, modern day Afghan and Iranian persians, besides the linguistic dialects, is the nature of intermixing. Afghans may have dravidian, scythian and parthian genes, while the Central Asians have a turkic-mongoloid-white kushans background. Iranians meanwhile are mixed with Assyrian , Median, Arab, Kurd, Turk etc etc. They are ALL an IRANIAN people from the ANCIENT PERSIAN EMPIRE who speak FARSI. Do you comprende you fat perverted masturbation obssessed because you couldnt spell P-U-S-S-Y, no Chris no Chris no Chris, Raz B looking bwoy?
The ancient Persian empire is NOT JUST THE MODERN STATE OF IRAN. It includes parts of other countries today. Are you disputing this, you shit for brains?
Egypt was the western border at times, but we;re not talking about all potential historic borders we are talking about the homeland of the Persian people which does not extend west of southern Iraq, parts of Turkey etc. The reason the Persian empire lost its lands in different places have different reasons you fuck boy. The Egyptians broke off from the Persians cuz they were not Persian, same with the Arabs. The only reason the eastern Persians broke away from Persia was because non Persian had conquered those lands (Pashtuns in Afghanistan, and Turks/Russians in Tajikistan)
By now you truly understand just what kind of a fuckin mess you got yourself into. Your mouth wrote a cheque your ass couldnt cash.
I dont know what the fuck made you think you could click on this thread. I dont know why you still felt the need to linger around here after grown men spoke their peace. Thats the closing act, chimp, your time is done. Why would Young Berg step on to the stage with the mic in his hand and a goofy look on his face after 50 just shut it down.
You tried to compare Afghans to Arabs and Egyptians in your contrast of them and their relationship with Iranians. You are truly fucking clueless. Never post in anything that involves intelligence again. I better not catch ya shitty ass in any threads that dont have anything to do with penis, masturbation, thinking about masturbation, pictures of testicles etc. You can keep that shit you fuckin dirty cheech
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lol...i already told u im done fuckin u up the ass...so i didn't even read ur post cuddie... 8) 8) 8)
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LOL...Ali is a funny lil boy. But the funny lil boy just shitted all over you two muufuckaz like it was nuttin. It's hilarious how Rod always goes on tangents and starts babbling on about random shit when he feels cornered. Good shit.
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^ There was valid points made by both sides, but at the end of the day, he kind of was saying the same thing as I was. Although he was making it dramatic for the sake of the argument. But it's good, I like dude, he knows his shit. Read and educate yourself faggot. You're only in here to root against me and Tech anyway. You're a filthy bitch-made little Jew. Stay off a topic that don't concern you. You ain't gotta post on every topic on this forum. This is why Persians in Southern California is such suckaz, they actually hang around muthafucaz like you. You've been on this site for damn near 10 years and still posting 21 posts a day on average? C'mon cuzzin, you have no life. Every few months that I make an appearance on here, you follow me on every thread and make your unnecessary comments. Go get some fresh air, go get some sun you pale looking muthafuca!
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Ali you post like youre a dirty motherfucker. The type to always have dirty under neath their finger nails. The type to have 3 whiskers on their chin but they still try to shape it. Youre not even one of those pussy ass Siavash type SoCal persians. Youre a fucking ref. You probably still rock denim jackets. Got a t shirt with 2 different logos on his shirt and tag. I bet youre eating bread and onions right now as I speak.
And since for you an insult involves anal sex, you are also a fucking homo. And since you talk about masturbating all the damn time, not only are you fat and younger than 19 but youre also a faggot that doesnt get no ass. A failed homosexual...
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^ There was valid points made by both sides, but at the end of the day, he kind of was saying the same thing as I was. Although he was making it dramatic for the sake of the argument. But it's good, I like dude, he knows his shit. Read and educate yourself faggot. You're only in here to root against me and Tech anyway. You're a filthy bitch-made little Jew. Stay off a topic that don't concern you. You ain't gotta post on every topic on this forum. This is why Persians in Southern California is such suckaz, they actually hang around muthafucaz like you. You've been on this site for damn near 10 years and still posting 21 posts a day on average? C'mon cuzzin, you have no life. Every few months that I make an appearance on here, you follow me on every thread and make your unnecessary comments. Go get some fresh air, go get some sun you pale looking muthafuca!
Dont call anyone else bitch-made, you sellout Persian. yea, i heard all about your fakeass, lil punk. even the Persian Jews out here would smash on you...me posting here on my free time has nothin to do with what a fake bitchel you are. LOL@"we were saying the same thing". you idiot, you guys said the exact opposite, you only started agreeing with Ali when you realized how dumb you sounded. LOLLL. you said you like Ali, then you said the Persians who hang around me is suckaz. dumbfuck, Ali is the homie in real life and one of the few Persians I'm down with.. werent you 'bout to face some serious time in jail? talkin about other people have no life, you frontin ass busta...Keep it real and keep callin me a Jew like it's supposed to be a diss. The voice of the people. Your new name is FRod.
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You've "heard" about my fakeness? ha ha you're hilarious.
LOL @ Persian Jews, I've only met one, he couldn't answer me why he's a Jew so I punked the shit outta him.
And I don't know a thing about this Ali character, but if he kick it wit you, he must be a sucka too. I only gave him his props by the way he was arguing. He didn't take it up the ass like some people.
And yeah, I'm facing 10 to life right now.. out on $150,000 bail, been to 12 court appearances since February and we still ain't in trial. That's how serious it is. The judge got so mad the other day that he pushed it back to January '09. The type of stress I go through daily you couldn't imagine in your wildest nightmares bitch-boy. Weren't you going to commit suicide over some weed you and your bitch got caught with? Ur a fuckin square bear and a half.
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Wow. The persian on persian wiggery in this thread is hilarious. This does not happen in New York.
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persian food is bomb, what else is ther besides kabobs???? i love that middle eastern chili poweder that they use too.
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persian food is bomb, what else is ther besides kabobs???? i love that middle eastern chili poweder that they use too.
They have these great rice cakes too, I forgot what they were called.
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persian food is bomb, what else is ther besides kabobs???? i love that middle eastern chili poweder that they use too.
somagh... 8) 8) 8)
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You've "heard" about my fakeness? ha ha you're hilarious.
LOL @ Persian Jews, I've only met one, he couldn't answer me why he's a Jew so I punked the shit outta him.
And I don't know a thing about this Ali character, but if he kick it wit you, he must be a sucka too. I only gave him his props by the way he was arguing. He didn't take it up the ass like some people.
And yeah, I'm facing 10 to life right now.. out on $150,000 bail, been to 12 court appearances since February and we still ain't in trial. That's how serious it is. The judge got so mad the other day that he pushed it back to January '09. The type of stress I go through daily you couldn't imagine in your wildest nightmares bitch-boy. Weren't you going to commit suicide over some weed you and your bitch got caught with? Ur a fuckin square bear and a half.
yea, i was gunna commit suicide over weed ::)...youre a fuckin idiot, you deserve AT LEAST 5 years to think about how stupid you are. you dont even know what type of stress im facin, yet you comment as if you do...that alone shows me what a lil frontster you are.
i keep it real, son...thats the difference between me and you. you talk only to build your image and feel tough, not to say what you truly feel. yes, i was scared when i was 17 and facing time for "intent to sell". would i handle the situation the same nowadays? not at all...but i was a young'n and ive learned a lot since then. at least i was never a fake persian crip actin hard online, though. :-*
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damn, I think I hit where it hurts. You ain't gotta explain yourself square, you done used every excuse in the book on this message board.
and bro, I'm from a city of 40,000 people with 5 validated gangs. You really think somebody fake could lead the biggest sellin music act out of the town? We been doin it since '99.. do you really think these streets would let some fake ass nigga rep. their shit for almost 10 years on the forefronts of California? Fuck no.. how many more DUBCC members should I let come thru my spot to check the fakeness? hit me when you come visit Alcatraz faggot, I swear to god my doors are always open.
And I wouldn't wish prison on my worst enemies, you're a weenie, straight up. What kinda stress do you go through besides fighting your gurl or asking for your greedy Jewish parents for a new car?
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Iran is a country. Persian is an ethnicity.
^^^And there you have it.
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and bro, I'm from a city of 40,000 people with 5 validated gangs.
hahahaha...that's exactly what I mean. lets be real, tough- ain't nobody in the bay ever heard of Rodzilla. :laugh:
...and I never wished prison upon you, I just think it'll be a good experience for someone like you who obviously needs major cleansing of the mind. "greedy Jewish parents"...you seriously think like a 12 year old.
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because it's the culture
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