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Title: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 11:41:11 AM
Drops Sept. 23 but it's leaked.

1 Crack Intro
2 Baby Girl
3 Here We Go Ft. Killa Kyleon & Mike D
4 Call My Phone Ft. Slim Thug
5. If That's How You Feel Ft. Lil Keke
6 Lonely
7 Made
8 The Mo' City Don
9 Top Notch
10 Rollin'
11 Tired Ft. Mya
12 You
13 Eye's On Paper Ft. Paul Wall
14 25 Lighter
15 Paid My Dues

almost done - will leave my review soon.
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: 3rd Coast on September 20, 2008, 12:02:52 PM
shit jammin..knock t.i out the deck this mornin...that 25 lighters freestyle,lonely and made..my shit 4 08..

til landing gear n chico dusty drop...

hate this aint gone do shit tho...

moms n pops had them hoes since wed.. half the niggas some parts of texas..got em..some of sold out ..
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 12:10:54 PM
it's honestly not that hot at all and i like zro.
the beats on this album are a joke. so low budget, u could tell. rap-a-lot is gettin' waaaaack. this project is the same shit as the abn project - potential to be hot as fuck but wasted cause no money to work with which means wack beats. these beats aint the zro style.

i want to hear zro over some slow/deep/dark sounding shit, not these cheap ass beats. i'm mad as fuck cause this and abn could have been 2 of the best cd's this year and there not even top 10 cause of lack of money to work with prod wise.

the only tracks i fuck with are:
here we go
made
mo city don
eyes on paper
25 lighter

ok songs:
call my phone
rollin'
tired

the rest are crap and boring. smh.
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: penenstamp on September 20, 2008, 12:14:57 PM
it's honestly not that hot at all and i like zro.
the beats on this album are a joke. so low budget, u could tell. rap-a-lot is gettin' waaaaack. this project is the same shit as the abn project - potential to be hot as fuck but wasted cause no money to work with which means wack beats. these beats aint the zro style.

i want to hear zro over some slow/deep/dark sounding shit, not these cheap ass beats. i'm mad as fuck cause this and abn could have been 2 of the best cd's this year and there not even top 10 cause of lack of money to work with prod wise.

the only tracks i fuck with are:
here we go
made
mo city don
eyes on paper
25 lighter

ok songs:
call my phone
rollin'
tired

the rest are crap and boring. smh.

There are plenty examples of albums with cheap "no-name" producers that bang. I wouldn't wanna hear a Z-Ro album with beats from Toomp, JR and Drumma Boy.
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: SmokinDro520 on September 20, 2008, 12:15:54 PM
somebody please hook me up...Props
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 12:16:18 PM
There are plenty examples of albums with cheap "no-name" producers that bang. I wouldn't wanna hear a Z-Ro album with beats from Toomp, JR and Drumma Boy.
i agree but this ain't 1 of them. i ain't even sayin' toomp, drumma, etc - u said those names. i wud' love to see prod credit for this. gimme' some mike dean for the whole damn album and it'd bang - that wouldn't  cost that much $ at all. i bet dean ain't on this shit at all or did like 2-3 beats.
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: 3rd Coast on September 20, 2008, 12:25:26 PM
There are plenty examples of albums with cheap "no-name" producers that bang. I wouldn't wanna hear a Z-Ro album with beats from Toomp, JR and Drumma Boy.
i agree but this ain't 1 of them. i ain't even sayin' toomp, drumma, etc - u said those names. i wud' love to see prod credit for this. gimme' some mike dean for the whole damn album and it'd bang - that wouldn't  cost that much $ at all. i bet dean ain't on this shit at all or did like 2-3 beats.

waitin on dean to do a entire album is like waitin on dre...

boys r lucky to get 2-3 songs from em


ro aint never had a-1 production to begin with..since day 1..boys feel wit he sayin oppose to what the beat is doin
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 12:27:49 PM
waitin on dean to do a entire album is like waitin on dre...
boys r lucky to get 2-3 songs from em
ro aint never had a-1 production to begin with..since day 1..boys feel wit he sayin oppose to what the beat is doin

i just used dean as an example showin' dude i ain't sayin' i want ro to get all this crazy high budget prod - just better low budget stuff cause it's out there (dean). yeah the beats don't do this album or ro justice at all.
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: westsiderider323 on September 20, 2008, 02:27:21 PM
damn i thought thiz album wuz gonna b better
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 02:29:37 PM
damn i thought thiz album wuz gonna b better
it's def. disappointing
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: GimmeYourShoes on September 20, 2008, 02:42:36 PM
I just listened it through and what I can say "shit sounds nice.", better than Power. I don't know what kind of contract he made with Prince, but J Prince could use some of his pimpin' money to get better beats for Z-Ro. Well, sugar coated beats, they are just a nice comfort and Z-Ro is a kind of rapper who can make a good album without them. This record goes to my shopping cart. Good shit  :beer:
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: westsiderider323 on September 20, 2008, 03:02:33 PM
damn i thought thiz album wuz gonna b better
it's def. disappointing
hell yea tha only i like tho iz Made
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 03:03:26 PM
damn i thought thiz album wuz gonna b better
it's def. disappointing
hell yea tha only i like tho iz Made
ya made is cool. 25 lighter is my fav joint
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: 3rd Coast on September 20, 2008, 05:03:17 PM
damn i thought thiz album wuz gonna b better
it's def. disappointing


respect ya opinion tho...aint gone lose any sleep

ive seen on other sites..the outcome is 60/40 majority like it..kuz it aint the same ol depressin ro.. n the ones dislikin it..want that depressin shit..

u can tell by the lyrics alone...fuck the production...he is content n happy with is life..

i notice boys when he drop a new one they shit on it..then months sometime yrs later..when he drops another one..they gone say this one is better

only ro i have liked since life..off first listen..best rap a lot album in a long time imo
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: K.Dub on September 20, 2008, 07:06:26 PM
TX
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Sickaluffa on September 20, 2008, 07:55:47 PM
somebody please hook me up...Props
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Philip1123 on September 20, 2008, 08:52:36 PM
RAL used to have the best production in the industry, plus, they had the most consistent albums. And that's not the case for some reason with this one.

And how come he has a song with Paul Wall, and no songs with Trae???
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Blood$ on September 20, 2008, 09:45:39 PM
im fucked up right now n need this shit asap hook me up i actually been bupmin some ZRO all day lol mmy bad ima fix the post tomrow if yall cant read it  :D
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 09:47:28 PM
im fucked up right now n need this shit asap hook me up i actually been bupmin some ZRO all day lol mmy bad ima fix the post tomrow if yall cant read it  :D
got cha
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: hellrazor86 on September 21, 2008, 12:05:04 AM
a hoop up?:)
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Bojakabo on September 21, 2008, 02:13:44 AM
omg that intro is dope lol, now i hope the rest is tha same style  :-*
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Bojakabo on September 21, 2008, 02:41:40 AM
agree that this one could be better..seems like z-ro and rapalot has lost it... im glad that devin left rapalot!

best songs are the intro, baby girl and tired.
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: K.Dub on September 21, 2008, 04:00:09 AM
How's the rip?
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on September 21, 2008, 05:17:06 AM
didnt even realise he had an album coming out, im losing touch !
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: K.Dub on September 21, 2008, 05:54:07 AM
didnt even realise he had an album coming out, im losing touch !
:nawty:
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Blood$ on September 21, 2008, 05:01:57 PM
I'm gonna bump this finally tonight, will drop my thoughts after
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: ABN on September 22, 2008, 05:24:47 AM
i liked the production on Life of Josep W. McVey. how does the beats on this shit hold up to that album? and if Roīs rapping about more happy shit then itīs prolly not the best thing for his music but dude deserves to be happy after all of the ups and downs heīs been thru. letīs just hope he doesnīt catch another felony coz that would be the end of one of the best rapperīs of all times career.
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: ABN on September 22, 2008, 05:52:30 AM
for once i gotta say that i like the booklet, wouldīve been dope if they couldīve kept the original cover though
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/78elcaminoman/img1221963583907.jpg)
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/78elcaminoman/img1221963653142.jpg)
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/78elcaminoman/img1221963678378.jpg)
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/78elcaminoman/img1221963703139.jpg)
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g160/78elcaminoman/img1221964615402.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Blood$ on September 22, 2008, 03:47:30 PM
I thought the album was good but I did expect more... this has potential to grow on me though, Z-Ro came correct lyrically and on the hooks but some of the production didn't really fit him and could have been better

my favorite tracks were "Baby Girl", "Here We Go", "Call My Phone", "Made", and "Rollin'"
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Jome on September 22, 2008, 04:06:58 PM
Kinda disappointing album..

Fast-flowing aggressive Z-Ro >> Sugar-coated laidback Z-Ro

Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Black Excellence on September 22, 2008, 05:08:49 PM
shit jammin..knock t.i out the deck this mornin...that 25 lighters freestyle,lonely and made..my shit 4 08..

til landing gear n chico dusty drop...

hate this aint gone do shit tho...

moms n pops had them hoes since wed.. half the niggas some parts of texas..got em..some of sold out ..

LOL
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Rudki on September 23, 2008, 04:28:59 AM
As a big fan of Ro's music, its very dissapointing COMPARED TO earlier shit, and even Let the truth be told and Im still livin'.......but im diggin the tracks alot I do like on here, like 25 Lighters, and "Tired"
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: K.Dub on September 25, 2008, 06:18:22 PM
Did I listen to the same album as you all did?

I like this!
Amateur/wack beats? Fuck no.
And I like Ro's rapping too!
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Blood$ on September 25, 2008, 06:27:40 PM
after the second listen I really got into the album, shit is hella dope... I copped it yesterday and have bumped it a few more times since

for those who were disappointed, I recommend giving the album another spin or two to see if your opinion changes
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: K.Dub on September 25, 2008, 06:28:52 PM
after the second listen I really got into the album, shit is hella dope... I copped it yesterday and have bumped it a few more times since

for those who were disappointed, I recommend giving the album another spin or two to see if your opinion changes

For real
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on September 25, 2008, 10:34:44 PM
be hot as fuck but wasted cause no money to work with which means wack beats. these beats aint the zro style.



that nikka need to get on the internet then cuz the best beats out today are cheap ass internet producer beats..  Do your research...
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: 3rd Coast on September 25, 2008, 11:30:10 PM
after the second listen I really got into the album, shit is hella dope... I copped it yesterday and have bumped it a few more times since

for those who were disappointed, I recommend giving the album another spin or two to see if your opinion changes

For real

wont do it..kuz they judge albums after 1 listen n call em classics..

Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: K.Dub on September 26, 2008, 03:56:11 AM
after the second listen I really got into the album, shit is hella dope... I copped it yesterday and have bumped it a few more times since

for those who were disappointed, I recommend giving the album another spin or two to see if your opinion changes

For real

wont do it..kuz they judge albums after 1 listen n call em classics..


lol
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: ABN on September 26, 2008, 04:12:42 AM
i just ordered it and the ABN album. iīm pretty happy that CDON are selling their shit now coz just a year ago you couldnīt actually buy RAL albums over here coz they donīt have international distribution. but CDON are importing shit on their own now and thatīs great. iīll probably order 10 Trae/Z-Ro/G-Maab projects in the near future.
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: krzieg on October 31, 2008, 02:24:27 PM
i was very impressed with both the ABN & Ro's solo project. I wasn't expecting 'Crack' to be classic top 2 bottom but there r plenty of bangers on there.

25 lighters is my fav 2.
i like the track with Mike D 2.
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Blood$ on October 31, 2008, 02:26:26 PM
yeah I really like "25 Lighter" now, same with "Eyes On Paper" and "Mo City Don"

fuck it, I still been bangin' the whole album at least a few times a week  8)
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Elano on November 18, 2008, 12:33:11 AM
Z-Ro:Crack
[Rap-A-Lot; 2008]
Rating: 4.7


Foreclosure is nipping at hip-hop's heels. Though it doesn't look it thanks to a broad, impressive list of releases from this and last year-- led by, in no specific order, Bun B's crowd-pleasing II Trill, Trae's wrenching Life Goes On, Devin the Dude's uncanny Waiting to Inhale and Scarface's lion-in-winter MADE-- even Houston's once evergreen Rap-A-Lot records is a house going to seed. Trae left the label in May. Devin has fled too, and already dropped a new full-length disc-- with Razor & Tie of all places.

For Z-Ro, who first appeared in the corners of DJ Screw's chain of drizzling, endless mid-1990s classics (most of which are now conveniently repackaged and available at your nearest Best Buy-- start with the 3xCD June 27), and has released five albums already on Rap-A-Lot, the whole world is starting to sound like it's closing up shop. Case in point is Z-Ro's sixth on Rap-A-Lot, Crack, which is drab, shabby and more than a little lonely ("I smoke purple stuff alone in my room"). It can't make its terrain of solipsistic gangsters and Houston beltway-sulk hum with emotion or its layers of horns and hi-hats shake with any color.

Z-Ro produces eight of the album's 15 tracks, and leans on heaps of previous compositions. The raided discs include the last two Trae albums and Trae and Z-Ro's two collaborations, 2003's A.B.N (Assholes by Nature) and this summer's downpour of noir, It Is What It Is. The samples are all tamped down and strip-mined in their reincarnations on Crack. "Here We Go" features an inexplicable pan flute and a lifeless snare. The would-be ladies-jam "Baby Girl" reeks with clumps of digital sparkle and hubby-talk: "She follow my lead/ And respect the fact that I wear the pants."

Z-Ro's hook is that the intimacy in his raps-- perpetually commemorating a handful of dead collaborators and friends, worshiping solitude and seemingly dismissing all worldly pleasures (except, of course, kush, candy paint, and lean)-- dips into weakness. On Crack he scoffs at dancing on "If That's How You Feel": "My body don't move like that, so Im'a chill/ Im'a play the wall, leaving all to dancing to y'all." He'd prefer it if no one called and no one spoke; four wheels are typically all the company he needs.

But for all his confession Z-Ro brushes his breakthroughs aside. As soon has he resonates with real sentiment-- on divorce: "I don't give a fuck as long as my child knows me"-- the album swoops back into dropsied howls about those suspicious club hos and these disrespectful young corner boys. Where, say, Scarface, may hold a mournful note for an extra beat, Z-Ro instantly flips into a stream of pithy taunts and complaints. The effect is dulling, frustrating, and more than a little repulsive.

Z-Ro at least had his strengths catered to on 2005's Let the Truth Be Told. There, the underrated long-time Scarface producer Mike Dean laid out a chain of warmer, blues-inflected guitar and drum loops for Z-Ro's moans. Dean is totally absent from Crack and other veteran Houston producers like Mr. Lee can't summon any suitable nostalgia, which makes Z-Ro seem even more alone. All the shining lights of the Houston scene sport something ineffable: Scarface's transcendent violence; Devin's beat-poet-leer; Trae's whorls of emotional concision; Big Moe's druggy, violet sunshine. Z-Ro has always been satisfied playing the brassy, noncommittal grump. That's a fine enough role to play, but as the world around him downsizes and constricts, he's clamming up, retreating home and phoning it in.

(pitchfork)
Title: Re: The Official Z-Ro "Crack" Thread.
Post by: Blood$ on November 18, 2008, 06:26:08 PM
^  ::) at that review, but w/e everybody has an opinion