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Title: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: jonathandubcnn on September 26, 2008, 01:11:41 AM
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Here we are standing on the verge of getting it on with the return of the funk masters: Kokane and Meech Wells. This funk duet has blessed Dubcnn with the worldwide exclusive to the cosmic funky single “Dr. Kokanstein: Come Funk With Me.”

“This is the funkiest shit you ever heard since Parliament-Funkadelic… you feel me? Everybody has [been] trying to immolate the sound, but we were born into it,” says Kokane about this exclusive Dubcnn single.

Kokane and Meech Wells grab a hold of the true essence of the Parliament sound with their reemergence of good ole’ music. “Good music can’t be stopped and hating is not healthy for any successful organization,” says multi-platinum producer, Meech Wells.

Make sure you add Kokane (http://www.myspace.com/kokaneofficialpage) and Meech Wells (http://www.myspace.com/tharealmeechwells) to your MySpace collection so you can stay connected to the funk connection.

A personal message to the Dubcnn community, Free Your Mind And Your Ass Will Follow -- so download the funk!!! Let’s be one community under the groove!!!


Download the Dubcnn World Premier:  Dr. Kokanstein: Come Funk With Me (http://www.dubcnn.com/media/audio/kokane-comefunkwithme)


Keep sending me news, info and exclusives on MySpace (http://www.myspace.com/jonathanhay) or email me at haywire@dubcnn.com, and be sure to leave your feedback on our forums!

Title: Re: Dubcnn Exclusive: Kokane and Meech Wells
Post by: jonathandubcnn on September 26, 2008, 01:42:27 AM
 8)
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: G iC3 on September 26, 2008, 03:44:29 AM
Shit....goddamn!!!!!
This tracc right here iz fiiiiiya!!!!!
 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Hope Kokane release hiz album soon!!!!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: DPGC23 on September 26, 2008, 07:48:55 AM
WHISTLEEEEEEEEEEEEE

IMA PEEP , C WHASAPO

DPGC23
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: CRIP CRAZY on September 26, 2008, 08:59:18 AM
SHIT IS HOT CUZZ ON CRIP!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: BaldyLoc on September 26, 2008, 12:21:17 PM
YEA CUZZ THIS SHIT IZ HOT!! YOU ON THE PHONE CUZZ! ME IM RIGHT NEXT TA CUZZ READING WHAT YOU WROTE!! GOOD SHIT FAM KEEP US IN THIS BITTTTHHHHHH! In A ZONe  CUZZ FOE LIFE!!! TA THE WEST MY BRATHA TA THE WEST!!!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: So Much Style on September 26, 2008, 12:30:00 PM
this shit is hot, big ups to kokane and meech!!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: CanadActive on September 26, 2008, 12:46:44 PM
Dope track!!!!
I don't see where I can download it tough...
No link!!!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: SOUL MECHANIX on September 26, 2008, 01:21:13 PM
Ya'll killed this one! Meech and Koka bringing back that Funk!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: thekidd50 on September 26, 2008, 01:55:16 PM
Crazy track ! props but how do you download the track ?!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: ~Lucien~ on September 26, 2008, 05:25:58 PM
''Download the Dubcnn World Premier:  Dr. Kokanstein: Come Funk With Me''

HOW???
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: Fresco on September 26, 2008, 06:59:32 PM
Thanks Meech and Kokane for this banging track! I digg it!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: eastwood1 on September 26, 2008, 08:03:03 PM
THIS SONG IS THE BIZ KOKANE ME AND 211 LACED A KOKANE JOINT YESTERDAY TO A MEECH BEAT STRAIT HEAT!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: Dome on September 26, 2008, 08:23:36 PM
 8) Thx MEECH
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: jonathandubcnn on September 26, 2008, 09:52:52 PM
keep it coming...  8)
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: aaamusicgroupwest on September 26, 2008, 11:53:46 PM
Hot record...

Eastwood wassup dude! get at me...you know whats up!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: CRIP CRAZY on September 27, 2008, 01:43:07 AM
this shit cwalkin cuzz on crip!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: woods on September 27, 2008, 04:58:56 AM
Dope track, nice one Meech and Kokane
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: Chad on September 27, 2008, 05:52:33 AM
Dope! Dope! Dope!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!)
Post by: Rud on September 27, 2008, 05:54:17 AM
Totally my fault on the missing download link! i have ammended the page!!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: 1234 on September 27, 2008, 06:23:18 AM
^ Props. I been banging this and wanted to put it on my iPod.
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: G iC3 on September 27, 2008, 08:24:50 AM
Since Yesterday Thiz Shit Iz On Repeat!!!!
They R' Bringin Da Funk Back !!!!
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: mrkane360 on September 27, 2008, 11:21:10 AM
 8) Good lookin to dubcnn and all my funksta's out there! It's the New West and the New Parliament back together again Meech and Kokane "the funkiest duo you ever heard" we got all kind of projects crackin, so be on the look out for the New West Mix Tapes and be on the look out for one of the funkiest album you ever heard "Back To The Future" Much love to all the West Coast Rida's "strength is through unity" God Bless the West! Big Koka
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: Raine on September 27, 2008, 11:31:42 AM
dont forget to check out the new project from me and the big homie kokane!

you can check it out and get it at www.myspace.com/rainendem

 8)

Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: mrkane360 on September 28, 2008, 01:08:22 PM
Greetings from Dr. Kokenstein, The Funk is back in full rotation! So come on all my funksta's dust ur funk cards off and watch Meech and I land the "Mother Ship" down in the hoods, " Bangin in space, Light year grooving past u funk guppies that want to clone the originators "Meech The Boss" and Kokane otherwise known as Lord Koka Vador may the funk be with u" " It's return of the Jedi Knight Nigga's" Much love 4 everybody embracing the funk again! " West Coast Run This Bitch" Now that's GANGSTA! KK
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: CRIP CRAZY on September 28, 2008, 04:18:12 PM
CUZZ THIS SHIT ON REPEAT IN MY RIDE!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: Maxin in the Shade on September 28, 2008, 06:28:07 PM
Great track to cruise to – Kokane never seems to let us down and Meech killed it with the beat, but what album is this off?

Koka, if your reading this, your fans in Australia appreciate you keeping the true spirit of the funk alive!!

Keep coming with that fire

 8)
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: eastwood1 on September 28, 2008, 07:46:14 PM
THATS THAT TRUE WEST COAST SOUND!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on September 28, 2008, 08:09:03 PM
damn, it's pathetic how much Meech is stuck in the past



step ya game up lil nigga
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: CRIP CRAZY on September 28, 2008, 08:14:06 PM
damn, it's pathetic how much Meech is stuck in the past



step ya game up lil nigga
ONE WACC NIGGA OUT THE BUNCH YOU IS A SUCKA MANE JUMPIN ON THIS FUNK FORUM YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: Raine on September 28, 2008, 08:49:33 PM
damn, it's pathetic how much Meech is stuck in the past



step ya game up lil nigga

wit yo old ass picture of quik and an old ass snoop dogg album in your signature. step yo shit up nigga since you the sign of the times. west.
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: eastwood1 on September 29, 2008, 04:53:17 PM
keep em coming folks!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on September 29, 2008, 05:18:41 PM
damn, it's pathetic how much Meech is stuck in the past



step ya game up lil nigga

wit yo old ass picture of quik and an old ass snoop dogg album in your signature. step yo shit up nigga since you the sign of the times. west.


Snoop and Quik have evolved, Meech still dropping beats that sound like they wouldn't even make the Last Meal mixtape
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: CRIP CRAZY on September 29, 2008, 06:17:38 PM
damn, it's pathetic how much Meech is stuck in the past



step ya game up lil nigga

wit yo old ass picture of quik and an old ass snoop dogg album in your signature. step yo shit up nigga since you the sign of the times. west.


Snoop and Quik have evolved, Meech still dropping beats that sound like they wouldn't even make the Last Meal mixtape
SNOOP AND QUIK ARE DONE MAN SNOOP NEXT RECORD WILL BE ON KOTCH! SOON HE WILL BE LIKE CAMRON DONE AND QUIK BEEN DONE
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: MEECH WELLS on September 29, 2008, 11:17:04 PM
damn, it's pathetic how much Meech is stuck in the past



step ya game up lil nigga
stay off my dick nigga and tell your bitch to come here!
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on September 30, 2008, 07:00:28 AM
damn, it's pathetic how much Meech is stuck in the past



step ya game up lil nigga
stay off my dick nigga and tell your bitch to come here!
SMH@  this ugly ass nigga trying talk, there a reason your own moms won't even look you in the eye homie


But whats really good with this beat? sounds like something even an amature would be ashamed of, and it's fitting a washed up nigga like you got other washed up niggas on ya tracks

Just like you, no one would know Kokane was alive if it wasn't for Snoop
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: Diggfinger on September 30, 2008, 08:39:39 AM
Not feeling this track so much.

It's good to see Kokane stepping out with new shit but as far as a "new Parliament" track I think "Suga Kane Next Shit" With George and Suga did a much better job.
Now THAT track was FUUUUNKAY!!

Hey Koka you think Suga Kane will ever funk the day of light???

Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: MEECH WELLS on September 30, 2008, 02:46:40 PM
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[/quote]BITCH NIGGA U DONT MOVE ME NIGGAS KNOW THE BIZZNESS PUSSY AND WHREVER U WNNA DO IT NIGGA WE CAN MEET ME ON THE STREETS NIGGAS KNOW HOW I GET DWN U PUSSY
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on September 30, 2008, 07:22:41 PM
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BITCH NIGGA U DONT MOVE ME NIGGAS KNOW THE BIZZNESS PUSSY AND WHREVER U WNNA DO IT NIGGA WE CAN MEET ME ON THE STREETS NIGGAS KNOW HOW I GET DWN U PUSSY

[/quote]



fukk outta here with you fruity loops beats nigga, your dated shit is the reason the west fell off
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: CRIP CRAZY on September 30, 2008, 07:32:48 PM
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BITCH NIGGA U DONT MOVE ME NIGGAS KNOW THE BIZZNESS PUSSY AND WHREVER U WNNA DO IT NIGGA WE CAN MEET ME ON THE STREETS NIGGAS KNOW HOW I GET DWN U PUSSY




fukk outta here with you fruity loops beats nigga, your dated shit is the reason the west fell off
[/quote]get off the homie dicc i think this is snoop cuzz dont make since or are you snoops bitch?
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on October 01, 2008, 04:07:20 PM
its funny that most niggas (those that are in their 20s or less) never heard of meech
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: BigO on October 01, 2008, 04:11:03 PM
its funny that most niggas (those that are in their 20s or less) never heard of meech

hows that funny?  They're in their 20s, what do you expect, they don't care about Older people, they care about their generation, and living they lives.
when you were young did you think about Nate King cole? hell nah, cause he's not in your generation.

thats some normal shit.

Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on October 01, 2008, 04:13:22 PM
its funny that most niggas (those that are in their 20s or less) never heard of meech

hows that funny?  They're in their 20s, what do you expect, they don't care about Older people, they care about their generation, and living they lives.
when you were young did you think about Nate King cole? hell nah, cause he's not in your generation.

thats some normal shit.





I did know about Nate king cole when I was in my teens because if a nigga is worth knowing then he will be known
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: The King on October 01, 2008, 04:43:38 PM
Not feeling this track so much.

It's good to see Kokane stepping out with new shit but as far as a "new Parliament" track I think "Suga Kane Next Shit" With George and Suga did a much better job.
Now THAT track was FUUUUNKAY!!

Hey Koka you think Suga Kane will ever funk the day of light???



Yeah Kokane! Suga Free and Kokane is the dynamic duo, made some of the best tracks in the history of funk. Bring us Suga Kane!

On a negative note, Long Beach, stop hating on every producer other then Quik. Quik ain't doing anything these days, you mad overrate him.
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: BigO on October 01, 2008, 04:44:06 PM
its funny that most niggas (those that are in their 20s or less) never heard of meech

hows that funny?  They're in their 20s, what do you expect, they don't care about Older people, they care about their generation, and living they lives.
when you were young did you think about Nate King cole? hell nah, cause he's not in your generation.

thats some normal shit.





I did know about Nate king cole when I was in my teens because if a nigga is worth knowing then he will be known
you heard of him, just like me, but you ain't give a fuck bout no god dayum nate king cole hahaha, niggah stop it!
like im trying to talk real and enlighten you if you really were wondering why, you feel me.  if they don't know him, its because of the generation gap, ask your grandmother to name one Game song lol, another example of a generation gap
it works both ways
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on October 01, 2008, 04:48:42 PM
its funny that most niggas (those that are in their 20s or less) never heard of meech

hows that funny?  They're in their 20s, what do you expect, they don't care about Older people, they care about their generation, and living they lives.
when you were young did you think about Nate King cole? hell nah, cause he's not in your generation.

thats some normal shit.





I did know about Nate king cole when I was in my teens because if a nigga is worth knowing then he will be known
you heard of him, just like me, but you ain't give a fuck bout no god dayum nate king cole hahaha, niggah stop it!
like im trying to talk real and enlighten you if you really were wondering why, you feel me.  if they don't know him, its because of the generation gap, ask your grandmother to name one Game song lol, another example of a generation gap
it works both ways


I took your advice and gave my grandmother a call, but she wouldn't pick up because she had LAX on full blast on her speaker system
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: BigO on October 01, 2008, 05:03:39 PM
its funny that most niggas (those that are in their 20s or less) never heard of meech

hows that funny?  They're in their 20s, what do you expect, they don't care about Older people, they care about their generation, and living they lives.
when you were young did you think about Nate King cole? hell nah, cause he's not in your generation.

thats some normal shit.





I did know about Nate king cole when I was in my teens because if a nigga is worth knowing then he will be known
you heard of him, just like me, but you ain't give a fuck bout no god dayum nate king cole hahaha, niggah stop it!
like im trying to talk real and enlighten you if you really were wondering why, you feel me.  if they don't know him, its because of the generation gap, ask your grandmother to name one Game song lol, another example of a generation gap
it works both ways


I took your advice and gave my grandmother a call, but she wouldn't pick up because she had LAX on full blast on her speaker system

oh yeah, i forgot, your grandmother is 30  ;D
j/k
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: aaamusicgroupwest on October 01, 2008, 05:58:15 PM
This forum is too funny..

Meech the trax are tight bro..keep pushin that New West dude..
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on October 01, 2008, 06:05:49 PM
This forum is too funny..

Meech the trax are tight bro..keep pushin that New West dude..


how is it new west if the beat sounds old and the it has washed up kokane on the track?


what's new west about that?
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: The King on October 02, 2008, 05:19:27 PM
This forum is too funny..

Meech the trax are tight bro..keep pushin that New West dude..


how is it new west if the beat sounds old and the it has washed up kokane on the track?


what's new west about that?

Do you know how idiotic you sound argueing with Meech Wells on an online forum? Who the fuck are you? Some kid sitting on his computer judging people's hard work? Kokane is far from washed up, and this track is far from trash. You're just upset because people getting excited over something that Quik didn't do. Quik is doing nothing these days. Meech releasing free tracks. Get a job.
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: J.Locc on October 03, 2008, 03:07:26 AM
I WOULD THAT ALL PRODUCERS IN THE WEST  WASS STUCK IN PAST LIKE MEECH
CAUSE THE PRESENT IS PRETTY WACK

MEECH KEEP DOIN YA THANG YOU DON'T NEED TO REPLY TO THESE FUCKIN HATERS
THE WEST NEEDS TO COME BACK TO THA FUNK
AND YOU AND KOKA LOCA HAVE A MISSION!!

BRING IT BACK PLEEAAASE!

GIVE UP THE FUNK ... FUCK THAT CLUBBY ASS "MODERN" SOUND

Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: EFFeX on October 03, 2008, 08:41:13 AM
I don't even feel like Meech is stuck in the past, he's created an original and new sound for West. Just check the New West World Order tapes, they ain't emulating anyone's style on those tapes.
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: killa los angeles on October 03, 2008, 01:39:03 PM
I don't even feel like Meech is stuck in the past, he's created an original and new sound for West. Just check the New West World Order tapes, they ain't emulating anyone's style on those tapes.
THATS REAL PEEP THIS JOINT http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=l107acpF_vI
Title: Re: DUBCNN EXCLUSIVE: KOKANE & MEECH WELLS (HOT!!!!) Download (Fixed) & Stream!
Post by: Raine on October 03, 2008, 03:21:01 PM
Kokane and Meech are both doing their parts on the west by bringin quality music to the table and consistently passing the torch to talented young brothas like myself and Young Joker, ensuring a future for all of us out here on the Pacific Side. I seen a nigga make a comment about your mother on here Meech. As many of us know, she was an extremely gifted and talented woman that God has called upon to return to the heavens. I'm sorry that comment was made. It's the internet my nigga...

KEEP IT WEST YALL.  You can have your opinions but we dont play like that out here...