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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Chad Vader on November 28, 2008, 08:42:08 AM
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Chad Vader's review of Scarface; Emeritus
Scarface - Emeritus-(Non Grouprip)-[Explicit]-2008
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-L0Y3bgwpIc/SS5Sr3gtwrI/AAAAAAAAF4Y/0XqXYF9ppPs/s400/Scarface+-+Emeritus-vazandadon.jpg)
01. Intro (Feat. J. Prince) Produced by Mike Dean
Classic J.Prince intro... He always got some shit on his mind.
4/5
02. High Powered Produced by N.O. Joe (http://www.zshare.net/audio/5112541935da0583/) audio link
Tight beat,love the transforming (scratch effect),not sure about the hook. It's a little corny,but it has grown on me (it leaked months ago),so I let it go :P
4/5
03. Forgot About Me (Feat. Lil Wayne & Bun B) Produced by Cool & Dre (http://www.zshare.net/audio/51146808703bcfd1/) audio link
Don't really like the drums on this,the soul sample is dope though.
1.5/5
04. Can't Get Right Produced by Nottz
Wow,Nottz produced this? Shit got classic organ synth that Houston is known for (especially UGK). Bilal and Face blend with the beat perfect.
4.5/5
05. Still Here Produced by Nottz
Ohhhh,wow another tight Nottz.... the beat is out of this world. Loving it,again Face kills it.... and the hook :o ohhh weeee.
4.5/5
It's. It’s Not A Game Produced by Illmind
Dope pounding piano driven beat,I canīt believe it.... Face,the hook.... :o :P and the breakdown on the third verse,loving it.
4.5/5
07. Who Are They Produced by Illminimalistic
A minalistic beat,but still jamming.... and nice to see K-Rino getting Don'tshine. Donīt sleep on K-Rino,heīs tight.
4/5
08. Soldier Story Produced by Tone Capone
A smooth track,Iīm a little bothered by the high hats though. Might be grower. :P ;)
3/5
09. Redemption Song Produced by N.O. Joe
Dope,but again it sounds like a grower.
3.5/5
10. High Note Produced by Jake One
A feel good joint.... could easily be a single if it wasnīt for the explicit content of the lyrics :laugh: :laugh:
4/5
11. We Need You Produced by N.O. Joe
Loving the "submarine sounding synth".... Iīm sure there will some controversy over the content of the lyrics. :laugh: (itīs about Lil Troy)
3.5/5
12. Unexpected Produced by Sha Money XL
I love pan flutes,shit sound so nice over Hip Hop beats. Needless to say that Face kills it ;) :laugh:
4.5/5
13. Emeritus Produced by Scram Jones (http://www.zshare.net/audio/51146765cd718f33/) audio link
A little "messy" beat,but dope never the less.
3.5/5
14. Outro Produced by Mike Dean
Same as intro... it ends the album nice.
4/5
Conclusion and overall rating;
Let me start off with WOW,this took me a little off guard. :P
For those that know me here,they know that Iīm a critical ass :laugh:.... in my opinion most albums these days is on some average ass shit or below that.
Lets be real,when cats think Ego Trippinīis dope,you know that the state of Hip Hop is in emergency :P :laugh:.
So when Face delivers a stellar album after a close to 20 year long career,it naturally took me off guard.
Not that thereīs any reason for me to doubt Face,but you know.... :P
Itīs easily one of the best album's of 2008,but itīs too early to rate it fairly either way.
If I look over my track by track rating,itīs clearly a 4/5 album.... but somehow I want to give it 4.5/5. :P :laugh:
But I go for 4/5,only time will tell if it deserves a notch up ;)
Rating; 4 out of 5
Related links;
Scarface; Emeritus 18 minutes album sampler (http://4991617749445.usercash.com)
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Top Albums of 2008 so far..... (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=193717.msg2037419#msg2037419)
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dope review
makes me wanna check it out now
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Itīs easily one of the best albit'sof 2008,
WHAT ?
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I'm a huge Face fan. For whatever reason I have lowered expectations for this album, however reading yours and others comments about it I'm optimistic.
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Been bumping The Diary and The Fix quite a lot lately, after reading your review I'm really looking forward to this
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I'm a huge Face fan. For whatever reason I have lowered expectations for this album, however reading yours and others comments about it I'm optimistic.
Yeah for some reason,I didn't expect much from it either. Shame on me :P But then again,nothing is better than when people take you by surprise.
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shit is fire 8)
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I agree with you Chad, this is some surprise release because I didnt expect an album like that
After a couple listen I think it def deserves at least 4 out of 5
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1. Intro Ft. J. Prince & Prod. By Mike Dean - Dean provides a solid beat..Prince talkin' real game on these fools. = 4.5/5
2. High Powered Ft. Papa Rue & Prod. By N.O. Joe - Cool ass beat. Love the hook for the most part. Great song. = 4.25/5
3. Forgot About Me Ft. Lil Wayne & Bun B & Prod. By Cool & Dre - SICK beat from C&D; didn't think they had this in them. All 3 MC's kill it. Wayne stepped his game up. = 4.75/5
4. Can't Get Right Ft. Bilal & Prod. By Nottz - Cool ass beat. LOVING the organ synth; unreal. Shit is dope as fuck. = 4.75/5
5. Still Here Ft. Skateish & Prod. By Nottz - Yet another great beat from Nottz. I was losing confidence in dude but he came tight on this album. Crazy ass hook as well. = 4.5/5
6. It's Not a Game Prod. By Illmind - The piano is hot. Face kills shit as usual. The girl is great on the hook; wonder who it is. = 4.5/5
7. Who Are They Ft. K-Rino & Slim Thug & Prod. By Illmind - The beat is cool. Face kills it. FINALLY (since all y'all want it), Face & K-Rino on a joint together. Rino came tight as hell with his verse. At first glance, I didn't think Thug would be able to hold his own, I couldn't help but think a 3rd verse of Face & Rino exchanging bars - Slum Thug impressed me, held his own. = 4.75/5
8. Soldier Story Ft. The Product & Z-Ro & Prod. By Tone Capone - Young Malice killed his verse, dude is DOPE. Z-Ro dropped an ill hook. Willie Hen came cool with his verse. ofcourse Face murdered it. = 4.75/5
9. Redemption Song Prod. By N.O. Joe - Cool track. Probably the worst song on it so far though. Not bad at all though. = 4/5
10. High Note Prod. By Jake One - Not really checking for this kind of subject matter from Face, but it's still solid. Beat is hot. = 3.75/5
11. We Need You Ft. Wacko & Prod. By N.O. Joe - Beat is sick. Wack hook from Wacko though (no pun intended). - 3.5/5
12. Unexpected Ft. Wacko & Prod. By Sha Money XL - Sha Money came correct with the beat. The hook is alright. - 4.5/5
13. Emeritus Prod. By Scram Jones - Crazy ass track. Face sounds good over this old school NY style beat. Crazy last song. = 4.75/5
14. Outro Prod. By Mike Dean - No talking, just the beat playing. GREAT outro-type beat though. = 4.5/5
All in all, GREAT album. Only on 1st listen, but I would say album of the year. The tracks i loved, i LOVED and know that already. Possible growers - tracks 9,10,11. Rest is crazy.
Face is the greatest to ever do it, period. No rapper has a discography as consistent. This is the perfect way for Face to gracefully bow out of the game.
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Damn, can't wait to hear this. I'm going to wait 'til Tuesday, though when I pick this up. Would be nice to hear an album fresh on the release date instead of spoiling it w/ a download once in a while :)
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Goddamn, that Forgot About Me joint is sick! Shit hits son....
I've now listened to High Powered, Emeritus, and this joint and I'm not gonna listen to anymore. I officially have heightened expectations for this album and will be copping on Tuesday.
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Goddamn, that Forgot About Me joint is sick! Shit hits son....
I've now listened to High Powered, Emeritus, and this joint and I'm not gonna listen to anymore. I officially have heightened expectations for this album and will be copping on Tuesday.
so u've heard the 3 leaked joints..the Forgot About Me joint is SICK - I saw Wayne name & Cool & Dre and was like oh boy ::) but they all killed this shit.
GREAT album.
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Chad, why aren't you screaming that it's classic? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Chad, why aren't you screaming that it's classic? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
u got a problem with Chad or Scarface? just curious.
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That's Luna's job... I'm the grumpy one remember(?) :P :laugh:
Come to think of it,that would actually be dope review concept.
Luna would be the exited one and I would be the critical one. Go track by track,then meet up with a balanced conclusion at the end.
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are reviews are relatively similar on this one though. that should tell y'all something.
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That's Luna's job... I'm the grumpy one remember(?) :P :laugh:
Come to think of it,that would actually be dope review concept.
Luna would be the exited one and I would be the critical one. Go track by track,then meet up with a balanced conclusion at the end.
Our reviews are relatively similar on this one though. that should tell y'all something.
Yep,I believe the conclusion for this album would be a very strong 4+ ;)
agreed! 4 or 4.5
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I'm not a big face fan... the only album of his I've heard is the one with guess whos back and on my block
not a fan of his voice or delivery... but I guess I gotta check this out. If I do, I'll have my review in here.
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Oh shit, didn't know this has leaked.
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I'm not a big face fan... the only album of his I've heard is the one with guess whos back and on my block
not a fan of his voice or delivery... but I guess I gotta check this out. If I do, I'll have my review in here.
damn..dude your missing out on the greatest and most consistent discography of all time.
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good reviews! someone hit me up with a DL on the DL 8)
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Good review, about check out the album now, but the black on navy is reeeally hard to read.
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Chad, why aren't you screaming that it's classic? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
u got a problem with Chad or Scarface? just curious.
LOL :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
i'm just playing, Chad knows what's up ;)
it has nothing to do with Scarface either ;)
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Chad, why aren't you screaming that it's classic? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
u got a problem with Chad or Scarface? just curious.
LOL :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
i'm just playing, Chad knows what's up ;)
it has nothing to do with Scarface either ;)
oh, Ok lol! ;D
u like Face?
bump the new album!
drop a review
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Chad, why aren't you screaming that it's classic? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
u got a problem with Chad or Scarface? just curious.
LOL :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
i'm just playing, Chad knows what's up ;)
it has nothing to do with Scarface either ;)
oh, Ok lol! ;D
u like Face?
bump the new album!
drop a review
;)
i think Scarface is a good rapper, though i don't share the same view as you about his catalog.
The Diary is pretty good though.
anyway, the high ratings definitely made me curious, i'll check the album out later ;)
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I'm not a big face fan... the only album of his I've heard is the one with guess whos back and on my block
not a fan of his voice or delivery... but I guess I gotta check this out. If I do, I'll have my review in here.
damn..dude your missing out on the greatest and most consistent discography of all time.
I know I know
once i do start, should I go with his solos or the geto boys stuff?
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I'm not a big face fan... the only album of his I've heard is the one with guess whos back and on my block
not a fan of his voice or delivery... but I guess I gotta check this out. If I do, I'll have my review in here.
damn..dude your missing out on the greatest and most consistent discography of all time.
I know I know
once i do start, should I go with his solos or the geto boys stuff?
well I myself haven't even found the time to do the GB stuff so U can do his solo shit 1st cause it'll still have the same effect on u.
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downloadin the grouprip now 8) 8)
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3. Forgot About Me Ft. Lil Wayne & Bun B & Prod. By Cool & Dre - SICK beat from C&D; didn't think they had this in them. All 3 MC's kill it. Wayne stepped his game up. = 4.75/5
I find myself skipping this track all the time.... as I said before the soul sample is dope,but the beat is too much for me.
This Wayne cat might be clever with words,I can't tell.... :P :laugh: never really heard any off his shit,other than the corny ass pop shit he got on radio/TV.
But I do know that it sounds like he got a broomstick up in ass :P :-X :-\ :laugh:
So I got to change my rating on this one :P ;) New rating 1.5/5 (former rating 2.5/5)
7. Who Are They Ft. K-Rino & Slim Thug & Prod. By Illmind -
The beat is cool. Face kills it. FINALLY (since all y'all want it), Face & K-Rino on a joint together. Rino came tight as hell with his verse.
At first glance, I didn't think Thug would be able to hold his own,
I couldn't help but think a 3rd verse of Face & Rino exchanging bars - Slum Thug impressed me, held his own. = 4.75/5
Finally? I've never heard anyone here speak on K-Rino,let alone a collabo between Face and him. :P :laugh:
Too be real I'm surprised that you (and K.Dub) has even heard of him :P...
As far as I can remember there hasn't been a single word written about K-Rinoīs latest album (The Other Side) that dropped some months back here :P.
I got it on my favorite list (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=193717.msg2037419#msg2037419) though (gave it 3 out of 5).
So assume you guys browse some other message boards :laugh: ;)
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Why did J. Prince diss Lil Troy at the end?
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Why did J. Prince diss Lil Troy at the end?
Did you care to really listen to it? J.Prince kinda explained it all ;)
Face also has some words for Lil Troy on 11.We Need You....
other than that I really don't know or care about their beef. (it's been going on for a while).
Listen to the music,fuck all their personal dealings...
so enjoy the music not all this WWE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wrestling_Entertainment) shit :-\ :P
oh well im guessing the person who snitched everybody out was lil troy
fuck him
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Good review, about check out the album now, but the black on navy is reeeally hard to read.
is this better:
Chad Vader's review of Scarface; Emeritus
Scarface - Emeritus-(Non Grouprip)-[Explicit]-2008
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-L0Y3bgwpIc/SS5Sr3gtwrI/AAAAAAAAF4Y/0XqXYF9ppPs/s400/Scarface+-+Emeritus-vazandadon.jpg)
01. Intro (Feat. J. Prince) Produced by Mike Dean
Classic J.Prince intro... He always got some shit on his mind.
4/5
02. High Powered Produced by N.O. Joe (http://www.zshare.net/audio/5112541935da0583/) audio link
Tight beat,love the transforming (scratch effect),not sure about the hook. It's a little corny,but it has grown on me (it leaked months ago),so I let it go :P
4/5
03. Forgot About Me (Feat. Lil Wayne & Bun B) Produced by Cool & Dre (http://www.zshare.net/audio/51146808703bcfd1/) audio link
Don't really like the drums on this,the soul sample is dope though.
1.5/5
04. Can't Get Right Produced by Nottz
Wow,Nottz produced this? Shit got classic organ synth that Houston is known for (especially UGK). Bilal and Face blend with the beat perfect.
4.5/5
05. Still Here Produced by Nottz
Ohhhh,wow another tight Nottz.... the beat is out of this world. Loving it,again Face kills it.... and the hook :o ohhh weeee.
4.5/5
It's. Its Not A Game Produced by Illmind
Dope pounding piano driven beat,I canīt believe it.... Face,the hook.... :o :P and the breakdown on the third verse,loving it.
4.5/5
07. Who Are They Produced by Illminimalistic
A minalistic beat,but still jamming.... and nice to see K-Rino getting Don'tshine. Donīt sleep on K-Rino,heīs tight.
4/5
08. Soldier Story Produced by Tone Capone
A smooth track,Iīm a little bothered by the high hats though. Might be grower. :P ;)
3/5
09. Redemption Song Produced by N.O. Joe
Dope,but again it sounds like a grower.
3.5/5
10. High Note Produced by Jake One
A feel good joint.... could easily be a single if it wasnīt for the explicit content of the lyrics :laugh: :laugh:
4/5
11. We Need You Produced by N.O. Joe
Loving the "submarine sounding synth".... Iīm sure there will some controversy over the content of the lyrics. :laugh: (itīs about Lil Troy)
3.5/5
12. Unexpected Produced by Sha Money XL
I love pan flutes,shit sound so nice over Hip Hop beats. Needless to say that Face kills it ;) :laugh:
4.5/5
13. Emeritus Produced by Scram Jones (http://www.zshare.net/audio/51146765cd718f33/) audio link
A little "messy" beat,but dope never the less.
3.5/5
14. Outro Produced by Mike Dean
Same as intro... it ends the album nice.
4/5
Conclusion and overall rating;
Let me start off with WOW,this took me a little off guard. :P
For those that know me here,they know that Iīm a critical ass :laugh:.... in my opinion most albums these days is on some average ass shit or below that.
Lets be real,when cats think Ego Trippinīis dope,you know that the state of Hip Hop is in emergency :P :laugh:.
So when Face delivers a stellar album after a close to 20 year long career,it naturally took me off guard.
Not that thereīs any reason for me to doubt Face,but you know.... :P
Itīs easily one of the best album's of 2008,but itīs too early to rate it fairly either way.
If I look over my track by track rating,itīs clearly a 4/5 album.... but somehow I want to give it 4.5/5. :P :laugh:
But I go for 4/5,only time will tell if it deserves a notch up ;)
Rating; 4 out of 5
Related links;
Scarface; Emeritus 18 minutes album sampler (http://4991617749445.usercash.com)
+
Top Albums of 2008 so far..... (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=193717.msg2037419#msg2037419)
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K.Rino gets a lot of love down south Chad; i didn't really man on here particularly, just down south fans in general have been waitin for this 1.
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^www.wordofsouth.com/myblock is the other forum i'm apart of; k.dub is there 2..rino is like a god on there..
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^ya, its a great forum though
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somebody want to throw me a pm.
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Shit is fire. Definitely better than Made. Not on the level of The Last Of A Dying Breed or The Fix, both personal classics.
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But one thing bothered me :P.... where's the search engine? :P :-\ is that a members only thing or what? :P :laugh:
I guess so, kinda sucks.
And I can't create threads there lol. I only got 28 posts. I know it's a good way to keep bs threads coming up, but damn.
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K.Rino gets a lot of love down south Chad; I didn't really mean on here particularly, just down south fans in general have been waiting for this 1.
OK,it's just that the comment didn't make any sense what so ever here ;) I know very well that K-Rino is highly regarded down south ;)
that why I said; ;)
So assume you guys browse some other message boards
That said I'm glad,you guys recognize him... :P
^ www.wordofsouth.com/myblock is the other forum I'm apart of; k.dub is there 2..rino is like a god on there..
Tight... Like I said before I got more than enough with DubCC....
and my "compulsive disorder" to keep shit organized would go crazy if I had to keep another account "clean" :P
But I see that they have RSS feeds,so will subscribe to it... you never know if some interesting shit is posted there.
^ya, its a great forum though
I browsed trough a couple of pages,checked a couple of threads... it's alright I guess.
But one thing bothered me :P.... where's the search engine? :P :-\ is that a members only thing or what? :P :laugh:
But one thing bothered me :P.... where's the search engine? :P :-\ is that a members only thing or what? :P :laugh:
I guess so, kinda sucks.
And I can't create threads there lol. I only got 28 posts. I know it's a good way to keep BS threads coming up, but damn.
what? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: damn... one other thing that bothered me is that only the first post came up when I entered a thread,then there was a gang of options :-X :-\..... before I could move on to read the replies :-[ :laugh:
I just finished bumpin' the album...
I knew it was gonna be dope because Face never disappoints but the album was just :o...way beyond my expectations,
I agree with Chad and Lunatic basically... every track goes hard, it shits all over Made which was also a dope album...
this is easily top 3 albums of the year without question
yep ;)
I know I will be in FYE supporting Scarface and coppin' this on Tuesday, I don't even give a fuck if I'm low on cash at the moment 8)
One of the few albums this year that deserves to be supported ;)
Remember the change start we "you/us"..... so support the things that "you" feel deserves support.
I know I will support this ;)
oh yeah and FUCK XXL for rating this album an L, they are officially off crack and on heroin for that one
What? is it online? link,if not post a scan ;).
I respect their opinion,but even objectively... damn :-\ the the lowest I would go is 3.5.
The thing is.... "official" reviews/opinions should be objective.
Related thread;
So what west coast albums is missing from The Source Magazines classic list? *POLL* (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=189052.0) (about Hip Hop media's biased ass subjective reviews)
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^yes..cause 8/10 or 4/5 is such a common review given for rap albums now a days..it's like every damn album gets an 8..this is better than most albums..
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http://allhiphop.com/stories/reviewsmusic/archive/2008/12/01/20730271.aspx
Rating: 8 Stars
The day when an esteemed professional retires is normally a time filled with proud reflection. In Scarface, we witness a legendary emcee coming to the end of a decorated career not with contentment, but with disdain for what the music industry and Hip-Hop culture have morphed into.
It’s undeniable the scene has drastically altered since Face’s national introduction to fans on 1989’s Grip It! On That Other Level, but the Houston native never lost his keen eye for analyzing the psychosis of street life. And now on his reputed final opus Emeritus (Rap-A-Lot), Scarface aims to leave a definitive statement to close his twenty plus year career.
A humorous, long-winded J-Prince intro launches the LP. In it, the respected Rap-A-Lot CEO reflects in detail on his recent legal troubles and a favorite topic of Scarface and himself, snitches. After taking the millionth shot at their hated rival Lil Troy, the album transitions into the funky, Papa Rue assisted “High Powered.” Here, ‘Face easily meshes the beat with the persona of a vengeful hustler looking for revenge against a snitch rival.
Cool and Dre contribute an orchestral soul sample to “Forgot About Me,” a sleeper candidate for the best all-star collaboration of the year. Lil Wayne delivers a concise verse in terms of flow and direction, while Bun B ups the ante further by effortlessly alternating between standard rhyme scheme and rhyming couplets throughout his verse. Face shows no problems keeping upon his turn, as he speaks on his defiance to assimilate to fleeting Hip-Hop trends: “I can breathe into the hood and they can feel my pain / And even though they try to change me / I remain the same”.
Political commentary also maintains a voice on Emeritus. With a serviceable Bilal on the hook, “Can’t Get Right” has Scarface dexterously connecting inner-city poverty/violence, the Iraq War, and the economy. Over the bluesy Nottz production of “Still Here,” Scarface details how he survived the perils of the ghetto, but also offers detailed stories from the nameless many that didn’t.
Houston’s finest next takes aim at the futility of street life with “It’s Not A Game.” Face takes the listener to the underworld by crafting graphic verses that alternate between third and second person while chronicling the physical, psychological, and spiritual price of hustling.
The mood of the album picks back up on “Redemption Song” and “High Note.” Scarface uses the former to educate the new school on his resume and pedigree as an elite emcee over a plodding but catchy piano rhythm. On the latter, a violin-powered sample provides the backdrop for Face’s tongue-in-cheek boasts of how his sexual prowess leads to women hitting Minnie Riperton-esque notes. Long-time fans will appreciate the raunchy tradition of this song that harkens back to previous Face entries like “F*ck Faces” and “Goin’ Down.”
For the finale, Scarface deconstructs Scram Jones’ classic boom-bap production on the title track “Emeritus.” Comfortably discarding any remnants of humility, Face boldly defines his own legacy and placement in Hip-Hop history.
Aside from an occasional track that falls into mixtape quality territory (“Who Are They,” “We Need You”), Emeritus is another example of why Scarface is Hip-Hop royalty and whose music will be sorely missed from the culture.
Nearly all announced “retirements” have been short-lived; media gimmicks devised to lift sales. But in Scarface we have a man who since the beginning has lived Hip-Hop on his own terms. He never compromised his art to accommodate contrived, asinine trends, even when it was conducive financially. If this is truly the end, Scarface has not only earned the honorable title of Emeritus, but defined the word for his Hip-Hop peers. Well done, Mr. Brad Jordan, well done.
^very well written but there is nothing "mixtape" quality about who they are, great track ??? i don't like we need you though..8/10 is too low for this though..at least 8.5
8 equals 4/5 right? you really think it's necessary to add 0.25? :P :laugh:
^yes..cause 8/10 or 4/5 is such a common review given for rap albums now a days..it's like every damn album gets an 8..this is better than most albums..
If you look it like that then yes.... what a ratings are you refering to?
The ones from "official Hip Hop media" or shit posted on various sites,blogs and message boards?
I don't take the later too serious ;) Not that "official media" has that much power or credibility anymore,but you know what I mean ;)
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^well ya i'm referring to media ones..they may not have much credibility, but they give everything an 8/10 and this album doesn't deserve the same rating as everything else..all im sayin big dog..
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two albums can both be 8/10 and still have one be better than the other
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http://allhiphop.com/stories/reviewsmusic/archive/2008/12/01/20730271.aspx
Rating: 8 Stars
The day when an esteemed professional retires is normally a time filled with proud reflection. In Scarface, we witness a legendary emcee coming to the end of a decorated career not with contentment, but with disdain for what the music industry and Hip-Hop culture have morphed into.
It’s undeniable the scene has drastically altered since Face’s national introduction to fans on 1989’s Grip It! On That Other Level, but the Houston native never lost his keen eye for analyzing the psychosis of street life. And now on his reputed final opus Emeritus (Rap-A-Lot), Scarface aims to leave a definitive statement to close his twenty plus year career.
A humorous, long-winded J-Prince intro launches the LP. In it, the respected Rap-A-Lot CEO reflects in detail on his recent legal troubles and a favorite topic of Scarface and himself, snitches. After taking the millionth shot at their hated rival Lil Troy, the album transitions into the funky, Papa Rue assisted “High Powered.” Here, ‘Face easily meshes the beat with the persona of a vengeful hustler looking for revenge against a snitch rival.
Cool and Dre contribute an orchestral soul sample to “Forgot About Me,” a sleeper candidate for the best all-star collaboration of the year. Lil Wayne delivers a concise verse in terms of flow and direction, while Bun B ups the ante further by effortlessly alternating between standard rhyme scheme and rhyming couplets throughout his verse. Face shows no problems keeping upon his turn, as he speaks on his defiance to assimilate to fleeting Hip-Hop trends: “I can breathe into the hood and they can feel my pain / And even though they try to change me / I remain the same”.
Political commentary also maintains a voice on Emeritus. With a serviceable Bilal on the hook, “Can’t Get Right” has Scarface dexterously connecting inner-city poverty/violence, the Iraq War, and the economy. Over the bluesy Nottz production of “Still Here,” Scarface details how he survived the perils of the ghetto, but also offers detailed stories from the nameless many that didn’t.
Houston’s finest next takes aim at the futility of street life with “It’s Not A Game.” Face takes the listener to the underworld by crafting graphic verses that alternate between third and second person while chronicling the physical, psychological, and spiritual price of hustling.
The mood of the album picks back up on “Redemption Song” and “High Note.” Scarface uses the former to educate the new school on his resume and pedigree as an elite emcee over a plodding but catchy piano rhythm. On the latter, a violin-powered sample provides the backdrop for Face’s tongue-in-cheek boasts of how his sexual prowess leads to women hitting Minnie Riperton-esque notes. Long-time fans will appreciate the raunchy tradition of this song that harkens back to previous Face entries like “F*ck Faces” and “Goin’ Down.”
For the finale, Scarface deconstructs Scram Jones’ classic boom-bap production on the title track “Emeritus.” Comfortably discarding any remnants of humility, Face boldly defines his own legacy and placement in Hip-Hop history.
Aside from an occasional track that falls into mixtape quality territory (“Who Are They,” “We Need You”), Emeritus is another example of why Scarface is Hip-Hop royalty and whose music will be sorely missed from the culture.
Nearly all announced “retirements” have been short-lived; media gimmicks devised to lift sales. But in Scarface we have a man who since the beginning has lived Hip-Hop on his own terms. He never compromised his art to accommodate contrived, asinine trends, even when it was conducive financially. If this is truly the end, Scarface has not only earned the honorable title of Emeritus, but defined the word for his Hip-Hop peers. Well done, Mr. Brad Jordan, well done.
^very well written but there is nothing "mixtape" quality about who they are, great track ??? i don't like we need you though..8/10 is too low for this though..at least 8.5
8 equals 4/5 right? you really think it's necessary to add 0.25? :P :laugh:
^yes..cause 8/10 or 4/5 is such a common review given for rap albums now a days..it's like every damn album gets an 8..this is better than most albums..
If you look it like that then yes.... what a ratings are you refering to?
The ones from "official Hip Hop media" or shit posted on various sites,blogs and message boards?
I don't take the later too serious ;) Not that "official media" has that much power or credibility anymore,but you know what I mean ;)
^well ya I'm referring to media ones..they may not have much credibility, but they give everything an 8/10 and this album doesn't deserve the same rating as everything else..all I'm saying big dog..
Let me arrest you a little bit there (if you don't mind that is ;) :laugh:)
You're waaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy too kind with your ratings... you give almost everything that comes out rave reviews and top ratings. :P
So in a way you're in the same shoe's as the media ones :P ;).....
I stopped reading The Source,XXL and what not a long time ago.
I still pick up Murder Dog,but most if not all of the shit they review is some underground shit I've "never heard off" :P :laugh:
I look over their ratings,I can tell they're way too nice.... so I can't take their reviews and ratings serious.
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Just picked this up today and only gave it a few spins so far, but it's definitely a great album. Only song I'm really not feelin' is "Who Are They". Don't know much about this K-Rino, but he sounds a lot like David Banner to me. Nottz had the hottest beats on the album. If this is truly Face's last album, I have to disagree with the guest spots (would have liked a Geto Boys collab). I was hoping to hear this track on the album: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=172765868 Can anyone rip this?
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Whos known to have credible rating systems nowadays? Brings up an interesting topic actually...
Please nobody say XXL lol
pz
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Don't know much about this K-Rino, but he sounds a lot like David Banner to me.
Well... sure we're talking about the same Banner? :P
This is K-Rino;
K-Rino; No Mercy No Mercy
(http://cdbaby.name/k/r/krino6.jpg)
Hardest Clique South Park Coalition produced by J.B Money (http://www.mediafire.com/?1mbz4j2niwx) (download link)
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07 Lord Of The Worlds.m4a (http://www.mediafire.com/?3bedmjmmwjj) (download link)
and this is Banner;
*David Banner; Them Fire Water Boyz* Big fase ent. 2000
(http://i26.tinypic.com/15pjp1s.jpg)
06 Living.m4a David Banner,Devin and Crooked Lettaz produced by David Banner (http://www.mediafire.com/?doexwmbox12) (download link)
^^^^ all them tracks is fire,so check emī out ;) ^^^^
Yeah, I know all about David Banner (not so much K-Rino, though). He just came off sounding like Banner on that "Who Are They Track" (that Illmind producer really brought this album down for me with his two weak/generic beats-"It's Not A Game" and "Who Are They"). After more listens, I gotta say that N.O. Joe came with the same heat as Nottz. 2 more things I found interesting about this album were 1.) In the liner notes it says "Still Here" was a "song inspired by Ice Cube" and 2.) Face quotes some heavyweights in the rap game "I've shed so many tears and lost so many peers" (2pac), "We don't believe you/you need more people" (Jay-Z), forget what song, but Face quotes Outkast/Goodie Mob's "Git Up, Git Out", and a member of The Product quotes Biggie with that "my nigga 2 teks/he tote 2 teks" verse. Face isn't really known to do this, so I'm thinking these are subliminal messages to the ones in the game he respects/a respectuful gesture for his "final album" (IDK, maybe I'm looking into this too deep, lol). One of the best album's of the year, nonetheless.
If this is truly Face's last album, I have to disagree with the guest spots (would have liked a Geto Boys collab).
This ain't Face's last album,believe me ;) He has said the same shit for yyyyyyeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrssssssss :P :P :P :P
Hopefully there will be another Geto Boys album as well ;) Lets cross out fingers
I was hoping to hear this track on the album: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=172765868 Can anyone rip this?
It's sounds cool... but fuck that DJ for fucking it up with all his his tags and what not. :-X >:( >:( >:( :-[
Who's known to have credible rating systems nowadays? Brings up an interesting topic actually...
Please nobody say XXL lol
pz
We pretty much cover it here; (don't mind the topic title) ;)
So what west coast albums is missing from The Source Magazines classic list? *POLL* (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=189052.0)
The tread is basicilly about the biased ass media as a whole (their ratings,reviews,opinions and what not) so join in if you got something on your heart ;)
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Damn, fck'd that up. My reply is 4 quotes up, lol
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Damn, fck'd that up. My reply is 4 quotes up, lol
Found it,I would have missed it... if you didnīt tell me though ;)
Yeah, I know all about David Banner (not so much K-Rino, though).
He just came off sounding like Banner on that "Who Are They Track"
Could be.... ;)
(that Illmind producer really brought this album down for me with his two weak/generic beats-"It's Not A Game" and "Who Are They").
After more listens, I gotta say that N.O. Joe came with the same heat as Nottz. 2 more things I found interesting about this album were 1.)
In the liner notes it says "Still Here" was a "song inspired by Ice Cube" and 2.)
Face quotes some heavyweights in the rap game "I've shed so many tears and lost so many peers" (2pac),
"We don't believe you/you need more people" (Jay-Z), forget what song, but Face quotes Outkast/Goodie Mob's "Git Up, Git Out",
and a member of The Product quotes Biggie with that "my nigga 2 teks/he tote 2 teks" verse.
Face isn't really known to do this, so I'm thinking these are subliminal messages to the ones in the game he respects/a respectuful gesture for his "final album" (IDK, maybe I'm looking into this too deep, lol). One of the best album's of the year, nonetheless.
nah... it could be. ;) interesting never the less ;)
That would be good question for his next interview. Luna,holla at face ;)
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"Bring me death/cause I've been itchin' to see/if there's an afterlife/aim it at me/cock it and squeeze/pleeease"(Redemption Song)-sickest line from this album (vintage Face)
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forgive me
1. Intro: N/A - pretty boring intro
2. High Powered: 2.5/5 - filler imo. the beat isnt interesting at all, and the hook is simply ok, I don't think I'll ever listen to this again
3. Forgot About Me: 3.5/5 - wayne isnt too bad here. his new deliverys still a problem, but I'll give him a pass here. beat isnt great (it could change up some more), but it fits the track. everyone holds it down, but noones outstanding.
4. Can't Get Right: 4/5 - I've heard this sample a few times in the past. This ones flipped nicely; lots of added elements fill it out here, and bilal is great on the hook. This shouldve been the intro.
5. Still Here: 3/5 - not terrible, but pretty unforgettable.
6. It's Not A Game: 3.5/5 - i like the hook. track drags out for too long, though. neither face nor the beat can hold my attention for three verses
7. Who Are They: 2.5/5 - guy before was right. k-rino sounds like david banner mixed with juvenile/some utp guy. face's verse here was questionable to me, and the beat is boring too. appreciate the features
8. Soldier Story: 4/5 - GREAT beat. Z-Ro comes through on the hook too. who are all these no name rappers, though? Wouldve preferred this to be solo. -.5 for that
9. Redemption Song: 2/5 - yawn.
10. High Note: 3.5/5 - forgive me, but I just dont like scarface. maybe its just his voice. i dont know. that aside, this song isnt that bad. a bit long once again - a feature mightve helped
11. We Need You: 3/5 - is this a diss? if it is then it gets extra points.
12. Unexpected: 3.5/5 - i think face makes these beats seem worse than they are. here the song is kinda boring to me, but I know if i heard a rapper i like on it i'd think it was a pretty good beat. hook and verse are both generic/boring to me
13. Emeritus: 3.5/5 - solid song... not outsanding, but solid
14. Outro: N/A - pretty boring outro. I noticed most of his cds have intros/outros like this though, so theres no reason to stop now
Overall: 3/5
meh. boring beats, and im just not a fan of face - i dont see anything special about his lyrics, or his flow/delivery. the beats here dont help either.
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^ wow :-\
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cant help it :-X
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cant help it :-X
its all good..dude is the g.o.a.t imo..solider story is a 5/5 man..who cares if there "no-name rappers" in your opinion? there dope. and for the record, they ain't no namers..they dropped an album about 2 years ago that was big time critically acclaimed..1 of my fav albums in the last few years..
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forgive me
1. Intro: N/A - pretty boring intro
2. High Powered: 2.5/5 - filler imo. the beat isnt interesting at all, and the hook is simply ok, I don't think I'll ever listen to this again
3. Forgot About Me: 3.5/5 - wayne isnt too bad here. his new deliverys still a problem, but I'll give him a pass here. beat isnt great (it could change up some more), but it fits the track. everyone holds it down, but noones outstanding.
4. Can't Get Right: 4/5 - I've heard this sample a few times in the past. This ones flipped nicely; lots of added elements fill it out here, and bilal is great on the hook. This shouldve been the intro.
5. Still Here: 3/5 - not terrible, but pretty unforgettable.
6. It's Not A Game: 3.5/5 - i like the hook. track drags out for too long, though. neither face nor the beat can hold my attention for three verses
7. Who Are They: 2.5/5 - guy before was right. k-rino sounds like david banner mixed with juvenile/some utp guy. face's verse here was questionable to me, and the beat is boring too. appreciate the features
8. Soldier Story: 4/5 - GREAT beat. Z-Ro comes through on the hook too. who are all these no name rappers, though? Wouldve preferred this to be solo. -.5 for that
9. Redemption Song: 2/5 - yawn.
10. High Note: 3.5/5 - forgive me, but I just dont like scarface. maybe its just his voice. i dont know. that aside, this song isnt that bad. a bit long once again - a feature mightve helped
11. We Need You: 3/5 - is this a diss? if it is then it gets extra points.
12. Unexpected: 3.5/5 - i think face makes these beats seem worse than they are. here the song is kinda boring to me, but I know if i heard a rapper i like on it i'd think it was a pretty good beat. hook and verse are both generic/boring to me
13. Emeritus: 3.5/5 - solid song... not outsanding, but solid
14. Outro: N/A - pretty boring outro. I noticed most of his cds have intros/outros like this though, so theres no reason to stop now
Overall: 3/5 (maybe.)
meh. boring beats, and im just not a fan of face - i dont see anything special about his lyrics, or his flow/delivery. the beats here dont help either.
Hey thanks for giving your 2 cents on it. Respect your opinion even if I don't feel the same.
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^ thanks man.
i really like some rappers that other people hate/think are nothing special, and I know if I heard them spitting these exact same lyrics with the exact same flows over the exact same beats, I'd probably give this album atleast a .5 higher. I think I just have something against face, but I dont know why; I love every collab between him and Jay and UGK. Maybe he just can't hold my attention for a whole album. OR
who cares if there "no-name rappers" in your opinion? there dope.
maybe im just kind of ignorant that way. :P
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forgive me
1. Intro: N/A - pretty boring intro
2. High Powered: 2.5/5 - filler imo. the beat isnt interesting at all, and the hook is simply ok, I don't think I'll ever listen to this again
3. Forgot About Me: 3.5/5 - wayne isnt too bad here. his new deliverys still a problem, but I'll give him a pass here. beat isnt great (it could change up some more), but it fits the track. everyone holds it down, but noones outstanding.
4. Can't Get Right: 4/5 - I've heard this sample a few times in the past. This ones flipped nicely; lots of added elements fill it out here, and bilal is great on the hook. This shouldve been the intro.
5. Still Here: 3/5 - not terrible, but pretty unforgettable.
6. It's Not A Game: 3.5/5 - i like the hook. track drags out for too long, though. neither face nor the beat can hold my attention for three verses
7. Who Are They: 2.5/5 - guy before was right. k-rino sounds like david banner mixed with juvenile/some utp guy. face's verse here was questionable to me, and the beat is boring too. appreciate the features
8. Soldier Story: 4/5 - GREAT beat. Z-Ro comes through on the hook too. who are all these no name rappers, though? Wouldve preferred this to be solo. -.5 for that
9. Redemption Song: 2/5 - yawn.
10. High Note: 3.5/5 - forgive me, but I just dont like scarface. maybe its just his voice. i dont know. that aside, this song isnt that bad. a bit long once again - a feature mightve helped
11. We Need You: 3/5 - is this a diss? if it is then it gets extra points.
12. Unexpected: 3.5/5 - i think face makes these beats seem worse than they are. here the song is kinda boring to me, but I know if i heard a rapper i like on it i'd think it was a pretty good beat. hook and verse are both generic/boring to me
13. Emeritus: 3.5/5 - solid song... not outsanding, but solid
14. Outro: N/A - pretty boring outro. I noticed most of his cds have intros/outros like this though, so theres no reason to stop now
Overall: 3/5 (maybe.)
meh. boring beats, and im just not a fan of face - i dont see anything special about his lyrics, or his flow/delivery. the beats here dont help either.
Pretty much the same. Never liked him, probably never will, he get's boring very quick. Matter of personal taste I guess.
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^damn
i've done a lot of discographies in my time. there is not an artist i have seen who holds one better than scarface. there are no weak albums in this man's discography, which is why i call em the g.o.a.t..can't say the same for jigga, nas, pac, cube, eminem, snoop, etc.
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^damn
i've done a lot of discographies in my time. there is not an artist i have seen who holds one better than scarface. there are no weak albums in this man's discography, which is why i call em the g.o.a.t..can't say the same for jigga, nas, pac, cube, eminem, snoop, etc.
I would not put Pac on that list though Luna imo. You got to remember past Makaveli he had no say in the albums that came out after that. Now if they were put out in OG form, I think his catalog is all the better as good if not better. It is as good if not better without them up to Makaveli.
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^damn
i've done a lot of discographies in my time. there is not an artist i have seen who holds one better than scarface. there are no weak albums in this man's discography, which is why i call em the g.o.a.t..can't say the same for jigga, nas, pac, cube, eminem, snoop, etc.
I would not put Pac on that list though Luna imo. You got to remember past Makaveli he had no say in the albums that came out after that. Now if they were put out in OG form, I think his catalog is all the better as good if not better. It is as good if not better without them up to Makaveli.
I ain't even countin his post-death albums (Pac). He is the only artist who comes close (not even arguable imo if Snoop, Nas, Cube, Jigga have avg/wack albums). But I still feel some Pac albums had some filler which I felt Face never had.
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^damn
i've done a lot of discographies in my time. there is not an artist i have seen who holds one better than scarface. there are no weak albums in this man's discography, which is why i call em the g.o.a.t..can't say the same for jigga, nas, pac, cube, eminem, snoop, etc.
Agreed. The only Face album I was disappointed with at first/though it's a great album was "Untouchable"(only 'cause it followed "The Diary"/Scarface's best album, IMO). However, the
"My Homies" albums did have filler (especially 2). But, I don't really count these as Scarface solos.
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alright, i don't really feel like reviewing the whole thing,
but Chad's review made me curious and sceptic at the same time.
after listening to the album a few times, i came to the conclusion that there's no way i could give a 8/10 or similar rating.
so The Diary is still my favourite Scarface album, let's just leave it with that.
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^damn
i've done a lot of discographies in my time. there is not an artist i have seen who holds one better than scarface. there are no weak albums in this man's discography, which is why i call em the g.o.a.t..can't say the same for jigga, nas, pac, cube, eminem, snoop, etc.
Agreed. The only Face album I was disappointed with at first/though it's a great album was "Untouchable"(only 'cause it followed "The Diary"/Scarface's best album, IMO). However, the
"My Homies" albums did have filler (especially 2). But, I don't really count these as Scarface solos.
Yea I was disappointed in "Untouchable" at first as well 'til i gave it more spins. it's classic, 1 of his best actually. the my homies albums aren't Face solos, there compilations. On top of that u said especially part 2 had filler, part 2 wasn't a release Face put out. That was Rap-A-Lot putting that out based on contract obligations and wasn't a release Face co-signed being put out.
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Same with "Balls And My Word", right? I've always thought this album seemed out of place (some dope songs on it, though).
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Same with "Balls And My Word", right? I've always thought this album seemed out of place (some dope songs on it, though).
ya Balls & My Word is the same story as My Homies 2 (released due to contract obligations and wasn't co-signed by Face).
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out of the face albums ive heard (world is yours, diary, untouchable, last of a dying breed, fix, and now emeritus), untouchable is the best. that or the fix
last of a dying breed and world is yours are the worst
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^world is yours is his worst album to me; 7.5/10
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:laugh:
you must really like him
to me that albums a 1 or 1.5/5 at the most
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:laugh:
you must really like him
to me that albums a 1 or 1.5/5 at the most
wow..SICK songs on that album
the wall
you don't hear me doe
dying with your boots on
mr scarface pt 3
he's dead
i'm black
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:laugh:
you must really like him
to me that albums a 1 or 1.5/5 at the most
wow..SICK songs on that album
the wall
you don't hear me doe
dying with your boots on
mr scarface pt 3
he's dead
i'm black
dont forget now i feel ya
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:laugh:
you must really like him
to me that albums a 1 or 1.5/5 at the most
wow..SICK songs on that album
the wall
you don't hear me doe
dying with your boots on
mr scarface pt 3
he's dead
i'm black
dont forget now i feel ya
true, but those i named are my fav
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:laugh:
you must really like him
to me that albums a 1 or 1.5/5 at the most
wow..SICK songs on that album
the wall
you don't hear me doe
dying with your boots on
mr scarface pt 3
he's dead
i'm black
dont forget now i feel ya
true, but those i named are my fav
that one and you dont hear me doe are the only great songs imo
should i get made or his debut next? I'm leaning towards made
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^i guess go for made because u may like it more since its more 'recent' (if thats your style)..made was good, near the bottom of his disco though..has 3 CLASSIC songs though -- never, burn, suicide note.
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^damn, no way fix is his worst album..many think thats his best..
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^world is yours The Fix is his worst album to me; 7.5/10
^^^^ fixed ;) :laugh: ^^^^ but it still gets a 3 out of 5 ;)
Related thread;
Scarface: Fix Appreciation Thread (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=185309.msg1892849#msg1892849)
:oDamn, "The Fix" is a classic album to me. The Neptunes only produced one song, and it was dope ("Someday" w/ Faith). I had no problem w/ Jay-Z on "Guess Who's Back", either. But, everyone's got there own opinions :)
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ya wow chad its 1 thing to hate the neptunes, but the 1 track they did was SICK :o
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:laugh: @ topic titles change
glad to see my review was accepted... i was half-expecting people to blow up at me.
personally, I like the neptunes. their track was good - not outstanding, but I liked it. I think the hook is the worst part of that song actually
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^yep, Face has the greatest discography of all time.
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I find with the Fix some older Scarface fans found it had too many guests and felt the production was out of place. Most younger Scarface fans were introduced to his music first with this album and The Source also gave it 5 mics at the time (IMO if they gave it for that they should have for a couple other earlier ones but hey that is just me). The one thing I love about Scarface is there is a steady progression in his rhymes from his first one to now. Many find his voice and delivery boring at times but lyrically he can hold his own against anyone IMO. And has for over 20 years.
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:laugh: @ topic titles change
glad to see my review was accepted... i was half-expecting people to blow up at me.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
i also know that some posters on here freak out, but i haven't seen a Scarface groupie yet :D ;)
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forgive me
1. Intro: N/A - pretty boring intro
2. High Powered: 2.5/5 - filler imo. the beat isnt interesting at all, and the hook is simply ok, I don't think I'll ever listen to this again
3. Forgot About Me: 3.5/5 - wayne isnt too bad here. his new deliverys still a problem, but I'll give him a pass here. beat isnt great (it could change up some more), but it fits the track. everyone holds it down, but noones outstanding.
4. Can't Get Right: 4/5 - I've heard this sample a few times in the past. This ones flipped nicely; lots of added elements fill it out here, and bilal is great on the hook. This shouldve been the intro.
5. Still Here: 3/5 - not terrible, but pretty unforgettable.
6. It's Not A Game: 3.5/5 - i like the hook. track drags out for too long, though. neither face nor the beat can hold my attention for three verses
7. Who Are They: 2.5/5 - guy before was right. k-rino sounds like david banner mixed with juvenile/some utp guy. face's verse here was questionable to me, and the beat is boring too. appreciate the features
8. Soldier Story: 4/5 - GREAT beat. Z-Ro comes through on the hook too. who are all these no name rappers, though? Wouldve preferred this to be solo. -.5 for that
9. Redemption Song: 2/5 - yawn.
10. High Note: 3.5/5 - forgive me, but I just dont like scarface. maybe its just his voice. i dont know. that aside, this song isnt that bad. a bit long once again - a feature mightve helped
11. We Need You: 3/5 - is this a diss? if it is then it gets extra points.
12. Unexpected: 3.5/5 - i think face makes these beats seem worse than they are. here the song is kinda boring to me, but I know if i heard a rapper i like on it i'd think it was a pretty good beat. hook and verse are both generic/boring to me
13. Emeritus: 3.5/5 - solid song... not outsanding, but solid
14. Outro: N/A - pretty boring outro. I noticed most of his cds have intros/outros like this though, so theres no reason to stop now
Overall: 3/5 (maybe.)
meh. boring beats, and im just not a fan of face - i dont see anything special about his lyrics, or his flow/delivery. the beats here dont help either.
Pretty much the same. Never liked him, probably never will, he get's boring very quick. Matter of personal taste I guess.
+1 to both...
Hey thanks for giving your 2 cents on it. Respect your opinion even if I don't feel the same.
yep.... ;)
^world is yours The Fix is his worst album to me; 7.5/10
^^^^ fixed ;) :laugh: ^^^^ but it still gets a 3 out of 5 ;)
Related thread;
Scarface: Fix Appreciation Thread (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=185309.msg1892849#msg1892849)
:oDamn, "The Fix" is a classic album to me. The Neptune's only produced one song, and it was dope ("Someday" w/ Faith).
I had no problem w/ Jay-Z on "Guess Who's Back", either. But, everyone's got there own opinions :)
+1..and remember this comes from a Scarface fan ;) 3 out of 5 ain't bad... and it's in my opinion his "worst" :P
^damn, no way fix is his worst album..many think thats his best..
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Jay-Z :-X >:( Neptunes :-X >:( enough said ;)
ya wow chad its 1 thing to hate the Neptune's, but the 1 track they did was SICK :o
Fuck em... >:( >:( >:( and fuck the track >:( >:( >:( >:(
I actually like two Neptune's tracks; :o :o :laugh: Snoopīs; Vato and Noregaīs; What,what (or what it's called again....)
^damn
I've done a lot of discographies in my time. there is not an artist i have seen who holds one better than scarface. there are no weak albums in this man's discography, which is why i call em the g.o.a.t..can't say the same for jigga, nas, PAC, cube, eminem, snoop, etc.
I would not put PAC on that list though Luna IMO. You got to remember past Makaveli he had no say in the albums that came out after that.
Now if they were put out in OG form, I think his catalog is all the better as good if not better. It is as good if not better without them up to Makaveli.
I ain't even counting his post-death albums (PAC).
He is the only artist who comes close (not even arguable IMO if Snoop, Nas, Cube, Jigga have avg/wack albums).
But I still feel some PAC albums had some filler which I felt Face never had.
-Pacīs two first is average... Me Against The World and All Eyes On Me is bonafied classics. Makaveli is cool.
-Snoop... ehhhh enough is said about him. :laugh: (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=135507.msg1811721#msg1811721) (link)
-Nas and Cube; They got their ups and downs
-Jay-Z; Hate >:( :-X him,so I'm better off not speaking on him. :laugh:
-Face/Geto Boys; Yep he takes the crown.... hands down.
^yep, Face has the greatest discography of all time.
No competition.
-UGKīs is pretty good too
-Too Short (he fucked up after his 10th album :-[,but....)
-MC Breed Had his ups and downs,but pretty solid.
-Devin How could I forget about him?
:laugh: @ topic titles change
;)
glad to see my review was accepted... I was half-expecting people to blow up at me.
Some people take shit personal.... :P :-[
:laugh: @ topic titles change
glad to see my review was accepted... i was half-expecting people to blow up at me.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I also know that some posters on here freak out, but i haven't seen a Scarface groupie yet :D ;)
I'm sure he got some... but maybe not here
I find with the Fix some older Scarface fans found it had too many guests and felt the production was out of place.
Most younger Scarface fans were introduced to his music first with this album and The Source also gave it 5 Mic's at the time
(IMO if they gave it for that they should have for a couple other earlier ones but hey that is just me).
The one thing I love about Scarface is there is a steady progression in his rhymes from his first one to now.
Many find his voice and delivery boring at times but lyrically he can hold his own against anyone IMO. And has for over 20 years.
Well observed ;).... yeah the guests and production was out of place,they tried to break Face to a bigger audience.....
sure the cats on the East Coast paid attention,he got shit played on the radio in NYC and got on their precious mixtapes :-X
Even biased ass Source magazine bought into the hype >:( >:( >:( >:( :-[ :-[ :-[ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
as D-Nice pointed out his earlier albums deserve the classic stamp more... it is what is.
I saw that album and still sees it as "sell out" move... :-[ :-[ :-[
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^yep, Face has the greatest discography of all time.
i heavily disagree; not sure who has the greatest, according to me, but Paris got a good one, especially with the addition of Acid Reflex.
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^yep, Face has the greatest discography of all time.
i heavily disagree; not sure who has the greatest, according to me, but Paris got a good one, especially with the addition of Acid Reflex.
thats all good, your opinion.
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^yep, Face has the greatest discography of all time.
I heavily disagree; not sure who has the greatest, according to me, but Paris got a good one, especially with the addition of Acid Reflex.
Hmmm,yeah.. not sure about that. :P need to beam over all of his albums to my cell for a fresh opinion.
As you can read below... I have my hands full :laugh: :laugh:
I currently have these artists discogs on my MP3 player; (cell phone)
-Schooly D,
-BDP/KRS,
-Public Enemy,
-CanIbus,
-Mac Mall,
-X-Raided,
-The Terrorists,
-AG2AKe,
-Ice T,
-King Sun,
-The Visionaries/LD/Ariano/LMNO,
-Mr.3-2,
-Omar Cruz,
-One Gud Cide/Twisted Black,
-UGK/Bun B/Pimp C/Mddl Fngz
Ultramagnetic MCīs/Kool Keith/Tim Dog,
-X-Clan,
-Young Bleed,
-Bishop Lamont
and
Taje
^^^^ if that ainīt a diverse list of artists I don't know what :laugh:^^^^
as I said above these artists have strong discogs;
-UGKīs all of them is dope
-Too Short (he fucked up after his 10th album :-[ ,but....)
-MC Breed Had his ups and downs,but pretty solid.
-Devin/Odd Squad/FaceMob/Coughee Brothaz How could I forget about him?
-6-2/Genacide My current favorite artist ;) :laugh:
I might add The Coup and MC Ren to that list (altough Ruthless For Life kinda sucked)
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^nah, MC Ren's solo catalog is kind of avg to me.
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^nah, MC Ren's solo catalog is kind of avg to me.
Oki... consistent average then :P :laugh: :laugh:
I would rate his three first somewhere around 4-4.5... his 4th (Ruthless For Life) 2.5 :-\... so he fucked up with that.
Anyway came over Source Magazine review of "The Fix",will scan it later ;)
Ruthless for Life was disappointing, but it had some good tracks on it.
anyway, i agree with you that he has a nice catalog
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^nah, MC Ren's solo catalog is kind of avg to me.
Oki... consistent average then :P :laugh: :laugh:
I would rate his three first somewhere around 4-4.5... his 4th (Ruthless For Life) 2.5 :-\... so he fucked up with that.
Anyway came over Source Magazine review of "The Fix",will scan it later ;)
Ruthless for Life was disappointing, but it had some good tracks on it.
anyway, i agree with you that he has a nice catalog
Just on top of my head;
The Intro and Coming After You (with Cube) is the only ones that's memorable :-\....
The track with RBX and Snoop sucked ass,due to the wak ass beat LT Hutton gave them :-X >:(.....
-Kizz My Black Azz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kizz_My_Black_Azz)
is almost flawless,but a little short (it's a EP after all :P) 4.5/5
-Shock Of The Hour (http://)
the cult classic :laugh:.... far from perfect,there's a couple of tracks that got go.
("You Wanna Fuck Her" and "Shock Of The Hour"... the hook sucks) But the overall feel still leans towards 4.5/5
-The Villain in Black (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villain_in_Black)
Love this album,but there's a couple of tracks that's "boring" (It's Like That and Still the Same Nigga)
But the overall feel leans towards 4.5/5 :laugh: :P ;)
-Ruthless for Life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthless_for_Life)
Only memorable tracks was the intro (Ruthless for Life) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthless_for_Life_(song)) and Coming' After You.
There's a couple of other alright ones,but overall it's a weak album. :-[ :-\ 2.5/5
That's pretty strong if you ask me.... ;)
whoa, you're dissing Shock of the hour :oi: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
nah i can see why you have a problem with the hook ;)
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^nah, MC Ren's solo catalog is kind of avg to me.
Oki... consistent average then :P :laugh: :laugh:
I would rate his three first somewhere around 4-4.5... his 4th (Ruthless For Life) 2.5 :-\... so he fucked up with that.
Anyway came over Source Magazine review of "The Fix",will scan it later ;)
Ruthless for Life was disappointing, but it had some good tracks on it.
anyway, i agree with you that he has a nice catalog
Just on top of my head;
The Intro and Coming After You (with Cube) is the only ones that's memorable :-\....
The track with RBX and Snoop sucked ass,due to the wak ass beat LT Hutton gave them :-X >:(.....
-Kizz My Black Azz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kizz_My_Black_Azz)
is almost flawless,but a little short (it's a EP after all :P) 4.5/5
-Shock Of The Hour (http://)
the cult classic :laugh:.... far from perfect,there's a couple of tracks that got go.
("You Wanna Fuck Her" and "Shock Of The Hour"... the hook sucks) But the overall feel still leans towards 4.5/5
-The Villain in Black (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villain_in_Black)
Love this album,but there's a couple of tracks that's "boring" (It's Like That and Still the Same Nigga)
But the overall feel leans towards 4.5/5 :laugh: :P ;)
-Ruthless for Life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthless_for_Life)
Only memorable tracks was the intro (Ruthless for Life) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthless_for_Life_(song)) and Coming' After You.
There's a couple of other alright ones,but overall it's a weak album. :-[ :-\ 2.5/5
That's pretty strong if you ask me.... ;)
whoa, you're dissing Shock of the hour :oi: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
nah i can see why you have a problem with the hook ;)
Ren kills the track,Kam comes tight to.... the beat is dope. But that bumpli bump bumpli it's the shock..... hook :-X :-X
You know what,I think I'll do my best to edit the hook out.... Same with that Game Over track.... fuckings Cube ruins the track with his hook >:( >:( >:( :-[ :-[
WTF, i like that hook :laugh:
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^nah, MC Ren's solo catalog is kind of avg to me.
Oki... consistent average then :P :laugh: :laugh:
I would rate his three first somewhere around 4-4.5... his 4th (Ruthless For Life) 2.5 :-\... so he fucked up with that.
Anyway came over Source Magazine review of "The Fix",will scan it later ;)
Ruthless for Life was disappointing, but it had some good tracks on it.
anyway, i agree with you that he has a nice catalog
Just on top of my head;
The Intro and Coming After You (with Cube) is the only ones that's memorable :-\....
The track with RBX and Snoop sucked ass,due to the wak ass beat LT Hutton gave them :-X >:(.....
-Kizz My Black Azz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kizz_My_Black_Azz)
is almost flawless,but a little short (it's a EP after all :P) 4.5/5
-Shock Of The Hour (http://)
the cult classic :laugh:.... far from perfect,there's a couple of tracks that got go.
("You Wanna Fuck Her" and "Shock Of The Hour"... the hook sucks) But the overall feel still leans towards 4.5/5
-The Villain in Black (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villain_in_Black)
Love this album,but there's a couple of tracks that's "boring" (It's Like That and Still the Same Nigga)
But the overall feel leans towards 4.5/5 :laugh: :P ;)
-Ruthless for Life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthless_for_Life)
Only memorable tracks was the intro (Ruthless for Life) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthless_for_Life_(song)) and Coming' After You.
There's a couple of other alright ones,but overall it's a weak album. :-[ :-\ 2.5/5
That's pretty strong if you ask me.... ;)
whoa, you're dissing Shock of the hour :oi: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
nah i can see why you have a problem with the hook ;)
Ren kills the track,Kam comes tight to.... the beat is dope. But that bumpli bump bumpli it's the shock..... hook :-X :-X
You know what,I think I'll do my best to edit the hook out.... Same with that Game Over track.... fuckings Cube ruins the track with his hook >:( >:( >:( :-[ :-[
WTF, i like that hook :laugh:
Fuck that hook >:( >:( >:( >:( Cube should be banned from doing hooks >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Related threads;
Worst hooks? (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=203189.msg2054637#msg2054637)
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I'll add my 2 cent! I fisrt heard face with the early GB stuff and been following ever since, I've never been disapointed with any of his albums yet. I love "the world is yours" it was the first solo Face album I got and it still gets regular spins as does his whole catalogue.
I give Emeritus 4.5 and would maybe give it 5 but for me the Lil Wayne featured brought the rating down. I don't rate wayne at the best of time but having him on a track with 2 legends like Face and Bun B just made him sound more rubbish than he usually does!!
I also agree Scarface = G.O.A.T
Peace
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Scarface; The Untouchable review in Rap Pages May 1997
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does anybody know whats the original song they sampled on the third track with wayne??
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Scarface interview in Rap Pages November 1993
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^^^^^speaks on Big Mike,Geto Boys,Dr.Dre,NWA and Niggaz4Life ^^^^
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not really feeling the album, only a few good tracks, best track to me is soldier story, album of the year? hell no!
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To tell you the truth I kind of hate that album...
I hate the Camel,well I should stay away from this thread and go to sleep. ha,ha...
Nah it ain't like that. Speak on it. I think him and Jay got MAD chemistry on they collabos.
It was interesting to me to hear Face over a Pharrell beat or Kanye,
but like I said not his best but still damn good to me.
It's all good Chad,
you're RAL 2 the fullest with your music taste so speak ya mind.
I went to sleep,was on a hater rampage last night :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Yes,I'm Rap-A-Lot to the FULLEST,I guess that's the problem.
Didn't like that he tried to gather the mainstream with leaving his family and roll with the :puke: camel.
How could those fucks over at The Source give that shit classic,while his REAL classics like
Mr.Scarface is back
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Z5H2RYA6L._AA240_.jpg)
and the
The Diary
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4189QF3K6YL._AA240_.jpg)
originally got 4 mics? >:( :psych: :psych: :catfight: :catfight: :catfight: :catfight:
^^^ they later changed their rating for The Diary to 5 mics ^^^^^ :)
Them fucks can appreciate
Scarface= gangster rap when gangster rappers fuck with NYC cats? another example; Cube's AMW album.
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
...and then there's these so called Hip Hop heads,that normally hate on Gangster rap.
You all came around when these cats fucked with beloved NYC cats.
Since I'm in a grumpy mood :laugh:, and ready for a karma drop. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I say it loud FUCK your hating mofo ass!
Let me calm down for a minute a breakdown this album; ;) :laugh:
Tracklisting:
01 The Fix Producer - Mike Dean
Dope intro as always,loving it 4.5/5
02 Safe Producer - China Black
Funky... 4/5
03 In Cold Blood Producer - Kanye West
Kanye West,ooohhh well.... actually he knows for the most part how to do pop,so I give him a pass for now.
This beat is far from pop,and actually sounds like a in house Rap-A-Lot beat 4/5
04 Guess Who's Back Featuring - Beanie Sigel , Jay-Z Producer - Kanye West
ooohhhh myyyyy,it's the camel. ahh,uhh,ahh damn that fool got a ANNOYING voice and flow >:(
Beanie sEAgal :laugh: is OK I guess. Once again Kanye,a little more poppy this time...
shit got alot of airplay when it dropped and was on all the NYC mix-tape at the time (same with the track below).
Unlike wak ass Pharell as I said before Kanye got dope pop beats. ;) ;)
05 On My Block Producer - Nashiem Myrick
The beat got a NYC flavor over it,and it also got love on the east. Nothing wrong with the beat,shit is tight 4/5
06 Keep Me Down Producer - Nottz
another track that sounds like a in house RAL beat 4/5
07 What Can I Do? Producer - T-Mix Vocals - Kelly Price
The beat is so,so... but the lyrics is some real shit. 3.5/5
08 In Between Us Featuring - Nas Producer - Mike Dean, Scarface
This track is SIMPLY AMAZING,look no further for proof that Face and Mike Dean got beats.
When I first put this on today I got tears in my eyes,this track touch my heart. Nas come way way correct,and face forgot about it.... ohhh weeee,shit is WAY dope.
The debate is over Face and Mike Dean is the ones that shall produce the Nas,Cube and Face album :laugh: :laugh:
But I guess that shit is just talk...... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I give this track 10/5 that's how much I love it...
09 Someday Producer - Neptunes,The Vocals - Faith Evans
:P :-[ :-\ >:( :nawty: :oi: :nahnah2: :rant: :argue: :baseballbat: :psych: :puke: :stupid: 0/5
^^^^
10 Sellout Producer - T-Mix
T-Mix,suave house in the house :raisetheroof: :raisetheroof: :raisetheroof: :raisetheroof: 3.5/5
11 Heaven Producer - Kanye West Vocals - Kelly Price
12 I Ain't The One Featuring - WC Producer - Flip ,Tony Pizarro
I don't know,as much as I love both (WC and Face),this track doesn't really do it for me 3/5
13 Fixed Producer - Mike Dean
Tight as always 4/5
Looking at it,it ain't that bad. The overall rating should be around 3.7/5 ;)
I have made my points above why I'm a little sceptic about this album
(trying to do numbers and getting love with the NYC affiliation) >:( >:( >:( >:(
If the "Hip Hop heads" and NYC critics can't love gangster rap unless it's done by their own or somehow affiliated with them.
Well then FUCK them :psych: :psych: :psych: :psych: :psych: :psych:
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Yeah if you give The Fix 5 mics then you basically have to give his previous work 5 as well. I just think Lyor Cohen and Def Jam made Face a offer and he took it. Probably told him yeah you can drop a solo on the label and it will free you up from J Prince (not knowing it did not) and probably told him they would give him more air time and exposure then he ever had at Def Jam. Biggest move Face did was not The Fix it was signing Luda to the label.
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Just peeped this. All I gotta' say is greatest rapper of all time due to owning the best discography of all time out of any rapper from any era, any coast and so on.
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IMO his previoud efforts have been better but this album over 97% of the other shit thats out there
anyone know if there were leftovers for this album???
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Scarface has a really nice discography
a long time running too
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fuck yeah he does
his muzik un...its crazy
i can listen to his muzik over and over again, never gets old
his mic presence
flow
delivery
production
hes a boss, noone can touch face, NOONE!!!
LAST OF A DYIN BREED
FIX
MADE
HIS WORK ON LATEST GET BOYS ALBUM IS INSANE
FACE=TOP 5 dead or alive
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Just peeped this.
All I gotta' say is greatest rapper of all time due to owning the best discography of all time out of any rapper from any era, any coast and so on.
;) ;) ;)
I turned around this thread to another Revisited discography thread.....
Got to love Face ;)
Yeah if you give The Fix 5 Mic's then you basically have to give his previous work 5 as well.
:laugh: :laugh: ;)
I just think Lyor Cohen and Def Jam made Face a offer and he took it.
Probably told him yeah you can drop a solo on the label and it will free you up from J Prince
(not knowing it did not) and probably told him they would give him more air time and exposure then he ever had at Def Jam.
Def Jam (The Fix) brought Face to people that previously didn't check for Face.
Biggest move Face did was not The Fix it was signing Luda to the label.
No doubt ;)
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chad,
you have any idea of the leftovers traxx for any of the face albums?
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weirdly i never ever seen any face "leftover" joints myself :-\
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chad,
you have any idea of the leftovers tracks for any of the face albums?
Not that I know off...
I will go trough my magazines (over time) and scan Scarface/Geto Boys related things...
You never know if some info will show up... ;)
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chad,
you have any idea of the leftovers traxx for any of the face albums?
Yeah they are made up of My Balls & My Word and My Homies II. And don't be surprised if another "new" Scarface album drops this new from Rap-A-Lot either.
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I was dissapointed with Emeritus
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I was dissapointed with Emeritus
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damn
the only track i disliked was the first one with wacko
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chad,
you have any idea of the leftovers traxx for any of the face albums?
Yeah they are made up of My Balls & My Word and My Homies II. And don't be surprised if another "new" Scarface album drops this new from Rap-A-Lot either.
I think he meant unreleased leftovers (correct me if I'm wrong ;)).... anyway,like D-Nice said; a lot of leftovers was used for those two projects.
I see a another leftover album coming in near future too.... lets see what happens with his new project first (collabo album with; ..... yet to disclosed)
Yeah J Prince has no problem using leftover tracks for other projects.
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Face has always done some decent #s as well
Scarface Diary: 1,446,443
Scarface Untouchable: 1,157,481
Scarface My Homies: 722,886
Scarface Last Of A Dying Breed: 671,163
Scarface World Is Yours: 620,349
Scarface Fix: 614,177
Scarface Mr. Scarface Is Back: 662,413
Scarface Greatest Hits: 328,751
Scarface Balls & My Word: 232,316
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Face has always done some decent #s as well
Scarface Diary: 1,446,443
Scarface Untouchable: 1,157,481
Scarface My Homies: 722,886
Scarface Last Of A Dying Breed: 671,163
Scarface World Is Yours: 620,349
Scarface Fix: 614,177
Scarface Mr. Scarface Is Back: 662,413
Scarface Greatest Hits: 328,751
Scarface Balls & My Word: 232,316
Never knew The Fix went gold
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Face has always done some decent #s as well
Scarface Diary: 1,446,443
Scarface Untouchable: 1,157,481
Scarface My Homies: 722,886
Scarface Last Of A Dying Breed: 671,163
Scarface World Is Yours: 620,349
Scarface Fix: 614,177
Scarface Mr. Scarface Is Back: 662,413
Scarface Greatest Hits: 328,751
Scarface Balls & My Word: 232,316
Never knew The Fix went gold
U thought platinum or flop?
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yeah thats what i meant, in a way like the made album altho they were best buy exclusives traxx
but yeah thats what I meant, but yeah them leftover albums were dope IMO
chad,
you have any idea of the leftovers traxx for any of the face albums?
Yeah they are made up of My Balls & My Word and My Homies II. And don't be surprised if another "new" Scarface album drops this new from Rap-A-Lot either.
I think he meant unreleased leftovers (correct me if I'm wrong ;)).... anyway,like D-Nice said; a lot of leftovers was used for those two projects.
I see a another leftover album coming in near future too.... lets see what happens with his new project first (collabo album with; ..... yet to disclosed)
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Face has always done some decent #s as well
Scarface Diary: 1,446,443
Scarface Untouchable: 1,157,481
Scarface My Homies: 722,886
Scarface Last Of A Dying Breed: 671,163
Scarface World Is Yours: 620,349
Scarface Fix: 614,177
Scarface Mr. Scarface Is Back: 662,413
Scarface Greatest Hits: 328,751
Scarface Balls & My Word: 232,316
Never knew The Fix went gold
U thought platinum or flop?
I never thought it went gold. It flopped either way, Def Jam did little to no promo for that album. That was a slap in the face to Scarface, no pun intended.
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Face has always done some decent #s as well
Scarface Diary: 1,446,443
Scarface Untouchable: 1,157,481
Scarface My Homies: 722,886
Scarface Last Of A Dying Breed: 671,163
Scarface World Is Yours: 620,349
Scarface Fix: 614,177
Scarface Mr. Scarface Is Back: 662,413
Scarface Greatest Hits: 328,751
Scarface Balls & My Word: 232,316
Never knew The Fix went gold
U thought platinum or flop?
I never thought it went gold. It flopped either way, Def Jam did little to no promo for that album. That was a slap in the face to Scarface, no pun intended.
Ah, flop. Ya Def Jam didn't really promote. "My Block" is a damn classic though. At least it went Gold off the strength of that and his loyal fan base.
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Face has always done some decent #s as well
Scarface Diary: 1,446,443
Scarface Untouchable: 1,157,481
Scarface My Homies: 722,886
Scarface Last Of A Dying Breed: 671,163
Scarface World Is Yours: 620,349
Scarface Fix: 614,177
Scarface Mr. Scarface Is Back: 662,413
Scarface Greatest Hits: 328,751
Scarface Balls & My Word: 232,316
Never knew The Fix went gold
U thought platinum or flop?
I never thought it went gold. It flopped either way, Def Jam did little to no promo for that album. That was a slap in the face to Scarface, no pun intended.
Ah, flop. Ya Def Jam didn't really promote. "My Block" is a damn classic though. At least it went Gold off the strength of that and his loyal fan base.
I thought it went platinum.... :P
Didn't promote The Fix? Those Kanye West tracks was all over the radio and mixtapes..... + got 5/5 :-X >:( in The Source. Strange.
Yeah it got that and he got lyricist of the year but to me those accolades came later and really did not help the album out that much, Well apparently more than I thought because it at least went gold, but I just felt like Def Jam dropped the ball on the promo. I knew the project was dropping only because I went on their website everyday.
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That album kind of bridged some gaps with old and new Scarface fans. And by me saying this it is not a diss to any new Face fans but, those introduced to Face around this time The Fix is there 1st memory of him. And normally you can spot it if you ask someone what they think of Scarface. More recent fans will almost always reference The Fix. Fans of his older material like me or Chad will always reference his earlier work and reference people to that work. "Oh well if you like the Fix you will love (insert earlier album here). So in that sense The Fix opened Face up to a broader audience.
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crazy album, bangin album
damn last of a dyin breed is dope to me
FUCK I HOPE FACE DOESNT QUIT THIS RAP SHIT
god damn "look me in my eyes" is one of the best songs ever IMO
on a sidenote:
chad you down wit chopped n screwed" muzik?
Face has always done some decent #s as well
Scarface Diary: 1,446,443
Scarface Untouchable: 1,157,481
Scarface My Homies: 722,886
Scarface Last Of A Dying Breed: 671,163
Scarface World Is Yours: 620,349
Scarface Fix: 614,177
Scarface Mr. Scarface Is Back: 662,413
Scarface Greatest Hits: 328,751
Scarface Balls & My Word: 232,316
Never knew The Fix went gold
U thought platinum or flop?
I never thought it went gold. It flopped either way, Def Jam did little to no promo for that album. That was a slap in the face to Scarface, no pun intended.
Ah, flop. Ya Def Jam didn't really promote. "My Block" is a damn classic though. At least it went Gold off the strength of that and his loyal fan base.
I thought it went platinum.... :P
Didn't promote The Fix? Those Kanye West tracks was all over the radio and mixtapes..... + got 5/5 :-X >:( in The Source. Strange.
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thats waz up chad
on a sidenote:
chad you down wit chopped n screwed" muzik?
Yes and no.... only screwed is boring,but if the play with it and chop it up,the shit can sound dope.
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Face has always done some decent #s as well
Scarface Diary: 1,446,443
Scarface Untouchable: 1,157,481
Scarface My Homies: 722,886
Scarface Last Of A Dying Breed: 671,163
Scarface World Is Yours: 620,349
Scarface Fix: 614,177
Scarface Mr. Scarface Is Back: 662,413
Scarface Greatest Hits: 328,751
Scarface Balls & My Word: 232,316
Never knew The Fix went gold
U thought platinum or flop?
I never thought it went gold. It flopped either way, Def Jam did little to no promo for that album. That was a slap in the face to Scarface, no pun intended.
Ah, flop. Ya Def Jam didn't really promote. "My Block" is a damn classic though. At least it went Gold off the strength of that and his loyal fan base.
I thought it went platinum.... :P
Didn't promote The Fix? Those Kanye West tracks was all over the radio and mixtapes..... + got 5/5 :-X >:( in The Source. Strange.
Yeah it got that and he got lyricist of the year but to me those accolades came later and really did not help the album out that much,
Well apparently more than I thought because it at least went gold, but I just felt like Def Jam dropped the ball on the promo.
I knew the project was dropping only because I went on their website everyday.
As far as I can remember the Kanye West tracks (+ Camel feature) was all over the radio and mixtapes at the time.... hmmmm
That album kind of bridged some gaps with old and new Scarface fans.
And by me saying this it is not a diss to any new Face fans but, those introduced to Face around this time The Fix is there 1st memory of him.
And normally you can spot it if you ask someone what they think of Scarface. More recent fans will almost always reference The Fix.
Fans of his older material like me or Chad will always reference his earlier work and reference people to that work.
"Oh well if you like the Fix you will love (insert earlier album here). So in that sense The Fix opened Face up to a broader audience.
Very true ;)
I tend to hate that fact though.... since he's fucking with NYC,he's cool now...? :P fucking idiots :-[ :-\ :-X >:( >:( >:(
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Face has always done some decent #s as well
Scarface Diary: 1,446,443
Scarface Untouchable: 1,157,481
Scarface My Homies: 722,886
Scarface Last Of A Dying Breed: 671,163
Scarface World Is Yours: 620,349
Scarface Fix: 614,177
Scarface Mr. Scarface Is Back: 662,413
Scarface Greatest Hits: 328,751
Scarface Balls & My Word: 232,316
Never knew The Fix went gold
U thought platinum or flop?
I never thought it went gold. It flopped either way, Def Jam did little to no promo for that album. That was a slap in the face to Scarface, no pun intended.
Ah, flop. Ya Def Jam didn't really promote. "My Block" is a damn classic though. At least it went Gold off the strength of that and his loyal fan base.
I thought it went platinum.... :P
Didn't promote The Fix? Those Kanye West tracks was all over the radio and mixtapes..... + got 5/5 :-X >:( in The Source. Strange.
Yeah it got that and he got lyricist of the year but to me those accolades came later and really did not help the album out that much,
Well apparently more than I thought because it at least went gold, but I just felt like Def Jam dropped the ball on the promo.
I knew the project was dropping only because I went on their website everyday.
As far as I can remember the Kanye West tracks (+ Camel feature) was all over the radio and mixtapes at the time.... hmmmm
That album kind of bridged some gaps with old and new Scarface fans.
And by me saying this it is not a diss to any new Face fans but, those introduced to Face around this time The Fix is there 1st memory of him.
And normally you can spot it if you ask someone what they think of Scarface. More recent fans will almost always reference The Fix.
Fans of his older material like me or Chad will always reference his earlier work and reference people to that work.
"Oh well if you like the Fix you will love (insert earlier album here). So in that sense The Fix opened Face up to a broader audience.
Very true ;)
I tend to hate that fact though.... since he's fucking with NYC,he's cool now...? :P fucking idiots :-[ :-\ :-X >:( >:( >:(
Very true
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I don't see anything too special about "The Fix"
it had it's collection of good tracks but it's my least favorite in his catalog to be honest
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Why did J. Prince diss Lil Troy at the end?
Did you care to really listen to it? J.Prince kinda explained it all ;)
Face also has some words for Lil Troy on 11.We Need You....
other than that I really don't know or care about their beef. (it's been going on for a while).
Listen to the music,fuck all their personal dealings...
so enjoy the music not all this WWE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wrestling_Entertainment) shit :-\ :P
oh well I'm guessing the person who snitched everybody out was Lil troy
fuck him
There's more to this though,I can't really speak on it,because I don't really care or know enough about it.
But I'm sure 3rdCoast will come around and speak on it... if you care that is ;)
Found this while searching for some other shit though;
Rap-A-Lot CEO, J. Prince, Sued Over Alleged Beating; Calls The Suit Extortion
Published: Friday - April 13, 2007
Words by Liz "Red" Thomas
J. Prince
Photo: InDMix.com
Music executive Ronnie Bookman filed a lawsuit in Houston on Thursday (April 12) against Rap-A-Lot Records founder J. Prince, claiming Prince viciously attacked him.
In the suit, Bookman alleges that Prince (real name: James Prince) lured him to Fresh Recreation Center Gym for a meeting, then was attacked by seven associates of Prince after they were unable to come to an agreement over contracts regarding Prince's artists.
"What he did was lure me over there to the gym like he was going to sign off on the clearance forms, so I went over there and didn't think nothing of it," Bookman said in a statement. "We went into the weight room. After we discussed some bogus contracts that he had sent over to my studio, which were a clumsy attempt to try to steal my studio, he told me that I had been talking about Rap-A-Lot Records, and we went back and forth with that. He put somebody on the phone and we chopped that up. Then I asked him: 'Now what?' He said 'Uh huh, ok, ok... now let's see how you gonna like this!' And then he opened a door and those seven guys came rushing out and did their number on me."
Bookman reportedly suffered severe head injuries, a broken nose and both of his eyes were battered and blackened, one of which requires surgery.
Bookman's 7303 Records was reportedly being courted by Warner Bros. Records, and according to Bookman, Prince felt threaten and called the beating an attempt to "eliminate competition in the Houston rap and hip-hop music business through the use of threats, intimidation and violence."
"I'm not going to let someone come in and destroy my business through threats or intimidation," said Bookman. "I want to serve notice that it's time to stop this right now."
After hearing about the suit, Prince released a statement, saying he has been falsely accused and attacked Bookman's credibility, dismissing the suit as an attempt to extort money from him.
"Through my years in this music industry, I've been falsely accused and sued by many, which none of them were successful," said Prince. "I guess this is a new season where drug dealing rats and parasite lawyers are out to extort me. If anyone with good sense would pull this guy Ronnie Bookman's record, they would see how bad his credibility stinks. The true facts will be revealed in a court of law."
www.ballerstatus.com
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A bit late on replying on this thread, but I wanna say I agree with what Chad Vader said. This was a hell of an album. Definitely a 4-4.5 album, that we just might call a classic in a couple of years (sometimes it takes some time). Rap A Lot hasn't lost it's touch. Best label out there for about 20 years, plus it's the only independent label that hasn't fallen appart (just look at all the "empires" - Death Row, Cash Money, No Limit, etc etc.) J Prince is a smart businessman and have the most respect for him, and the artists and musicians on his label.
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yeah thats what i meant, in a way like the made album altho they were best buy exclusives traxx
but yeah thats what I meant, but yeah them leftover albums were dope IMO
chad,
you have any idea of the leftovers traxx for any of the face albums?
Yeah they are made up of My Balls & My Word and My Homies II. And don't be surprised if another "new" Scarface album drops this new from Rap-A-Lot either.
I think he meant unreleased leftovers (correct me if I'm wrong ;)).... anyway,like D-Nice said; a lot of leftovers was used for those two projects.
I see a another leftover album coming in near future too.... lets see what happens with his new project first (collabo album with; ..... yet to disclosed)
alot of his left overs get chopped in half.. n put on other cats albums as verses
face is really done wit rap...anything new u hear from face is gonna be production..
verses.. will be old and unreleased
he said n i think he stickin to his guns.. that the only way he will ever record new shit again..is with a super group..beanz n jay..or nas n cube
he hasnt done shit since pimp died..
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yeah and im thinkin about callin it quits
only way i wont jump off the nearest bridge is if face comes back wit a group or not
hopefully solo
DAMN JUS THINKIN BOUT THIS IS CRAZY
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best discography of all time, best artist of all time.
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Bumping Emeritus right now. Loving that beat.
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yeah thats what i meant, in a way like the made album altho they were best buy exclusives traxx
but yeah thats what I meant, but yeah them leftover albums were dope IMO
chad,
you have any idea of the leftovers traxx for any of the face albums?
Yeah they are made up of My Balls & My Word and My Homies II. And don't be surprised if another "new" Scarface album drops this new from Rap-A-Lot either.
I think he meant unreleased leftovers (correct me if I'm wrong ;)).... anyway,like D-Nice said; a lot of leftovers was used for those two projects.
I see a another leftover album coming in near future too.... lets see what happens with his new project first (collabo album with; ..... yet to disclosed)
alot of his left overs get chopped in half.. n put on other cats albums as verses
face is really done wit rap...anything new u hear from face is gonna be production..
verses.. will be old and unreleased
he said n i think he stickin to his guns.. that the only way he will ever record new shit again..is with a super group..beanz n jay..or nas n cube
he hasnt done shit since pimp died..
you forgot that scarface is doing a rock n roll album. that is what he said on the deal
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Face will do new shit on The Product album..
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Face will do new shit on The Product album..
ain't face a full fledged member of the product?
he was on the last album..in order to properly introduce them..on this album, i think it's more malice and hen..but i'm sure scarface is heavily involved still..
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Face will do new shit on The Product album..
ain't face a full fledged member of the product?
he was on the last album..in order to properly introduce them..on this album, i think it's more malice and hen..but i'm sure scarface is heavily involved still..
Kind of like what he did with Facemob it sounds like.
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damn surprised all the rap a lot artists are cool wit prince?
i mean im at the record stores and theres a gang of best of, but im guessin z-ro, face, etc.. didnt approve of them
jus like he didnt approve of balls and my word right?
^^^
the 2nd facemob album ain't really a facemob album. it actually sounds like j.prince threw some dmg leftovers together and put the facemob name on it.
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damn surprised all the rap a lot artists are cool wit prince?
i mean im at the record stores and theres a gang of best of, but im guessin z-ro, face, etc.. didnt approve of them
jus like he didnt approve of balls and my word right?
^^^
the 2nd facemob album ain't really a facemob album. it actually sounds like j.prince threw some dmg leftovers together and put the facemob name on it.
Nah that album was not approved by Face. J Prince did the same thing with Devin also.
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Actually now looking back, it looks like at one time Scarface was behind the Balls & My Word album
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyxxvEPZW5k
In this video he did for Recognize from the album, check out around 1:45 of the video he drops a banner for the album cover on a wall and J Prince is even in the video. I have no idea time wise when he did the video from when J dropped it but it looks like at one time he was with the project. Apologizes if someone has brought this up already. ;D
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well i jus dont understand aite lets say the projects that werent approved by face, devin, get boys etc...then how can rap a lot drop them projects and face and others not have them pulled?
and yeah i seen that video for that album?
how is that possible that he didnt approve of the album but hes on the cover, he made a video forit and the album was all new material?
something aint right here
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well i jus dont understand aite lets say the projects that werent approved by face, devin, get boys etc...then how can rap a lot drop them projects and face and others not have them pulled?
and yeah i seen that video for that album?
how is that possible that he didnt approve of the album but hes on the cover, he made a video forit and the album was all new material?
something aint right here
Well the label owns the material. I think what happened with Face, him and J probably had a disagreement before the album dropped. Now looking back at this video it was already done but by then Face had left and did his Def Jam South thing. Probably happened mid production of the album. But J owns the masters so he can do with it whatever he wants.
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prince can do what he wants if he owns it,but it was more than 1 album by numerous artists
i dont know jus dont seem right, and he mus thave cleared it up to record a album for that label again
regardless balls and my word is a aite album
well i jus dont understand aite lets say the projects that werent approved by face, devin, get boys etc...then how can rap a lot drop them projects and face and others not have them pulled?
and yeah i seen that video for that album?
how is that possible that he didnt approve of the album but hes on the cover, he made a video forit and the album was all new material?
something aint right here
Well the label owns the material. I think what happened with Face, him and J probably had a disagreement before the album dropped. Now looking back at this video it was already done but by then Face had left and did his Def Jam South thing. Probably happened mid production of the album. But J owns the masters so he can do with it whatever he wants.
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prince can do what he wants if he owns it,but it was more than 1 album by numerous artists
i dont know jus dont seem right, and he mus thave cleared it up to record a album for that label again
regardless balls and my word is a aite album
well i jus dont understand aite lets say the projects that werent approved by face, devin, get boys etc...then how can rap a lot drop them projects and face and others not have them pulled?
and yeah i seen that video for that album?
how is that possible that he didnt approve of the album but hes on the cover, he made a video forit and the album was all new material?
something aint right here
Well the label owns the material. I think what happened with Face, him and J probably had a disagreement before the album dropped. Now looking back at this video it was already done but by then Face had left and did his Def Jam South thing. Probably happened mid production of the album. But J owns the masters so he can do with it whatever he wants.
Well all those artists he owns the masters. Tony Draper did similar tactics with Suave House with 8Ball & MJG, Tela and Rick Ross. Oh yeah Face and Prince at times have a love/hate relationship. Good to see they worked things before he retired but I know alot of Face's business dealings whether his fault or from others made him very jaded about the industry and has alot to do with him walking away from the game.
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well i hope he comes back, at the end of the day he is better than 94% of what the rap game will EVER have to offer and he can still spit
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well i hope he comes back, at the end of the day he is better than 94% of what the rap game will EVER have to offer and he can still spit
+1 well said
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By the way, one of the facemob members just got outta' prison after serving a 10 year bid
D: I said THE SAME THING about the "Recognize" video. That album wasn't backed by Face, so the fact that it had a legit music video still makes no sense 2 me.
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D: I said THE SAME THING about the "Recognize" video. That album wasn't backed by Face,so the fact that it had a legit music video still makes no sense 2 me
like d-nice said;
the album was probably done > picked the first single > shot the video > had a arguement > face left > j.prince released the album without face backing it.
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^i know, but still messed up and rare to see.
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Scarface features;
(http://img.lavamus.com/images/albums/big/Too_Short/1999_-_Can't_Stay_Away.jpg)
Scarface,KB and Too Short; Longevity MP3 (http://www.mediafire.com/?e2img2jnilw) mediafire link
^^^^ Classic track ^^^
Seagram; Souls on Ice
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21YZKBEEHEL._SL500_AA130_.jpg)
Scarface and Seagram; Sleeping In My Nikes (http://www.mediafire.com/?nyjjwlt0jvg) mediafire link
Seagram; The Dark Roads
(http://www.undergroundwestcoastrap.com/seagramcover1.jpg)
Scarface,Ganxta Nip,Willie D and Seagram; Action Speaks Louder Than Words (http://www.mediafire.com/?zzxianhwavh) mediafire link
Wonder about the intro? (a little diss to ... :P) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=152524.msg2004663#msg2004663)
D-Loc - The Struggle
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BBfSiBg-Cf0/SameMI5tGcI/AAAAAAAAAaI/qii6VutJe-4/s320/Dl-TS2.jpg)
Wake Up D-Loc ft. Scarface, Young Malice & Vicious (http://www.mediafire.com/?ezlmyuynmmc)
^^^^^^
Bonus track on the re-release.
The OG album;
(http://cdbaby.name/d/l/dlocotcb.jpg)
http://cdbaby.com/cd/dlocotcb
Here's a odd Scarface feature,something different.... Face pulled it off though ;)
BK-One-Radio_Do_Canibal
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NawMdRSS6CY/SsPxQBFlXHI/AAAAAAAAA1s/iUpBQLV-DdQ/s320/BKORDCTHORO.PNG) (http://www.freestylemadness.com/blog/?p=22102)
Collection of Brazilian funk-inspired hip hop beats
featuring vocals from an all-star lineup of rappers
including ,,,,,,,, Scarface
Scarface Ft. Brother Ali; American Nightmare (http://www.mediafire.com/?tt05ddqmdzu)
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^was just about to post that lol
always love me any new Face..was so disappointed that his verse on Slim Thug album was recycled :-X
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^was just about to post that lol
When I went trough new leaks earlier today,I was like wtf is this :-X :laugh:
Scarface featured on some Brazilian funk album full of alternative rappers :-X :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Got the album playing in the background now,sounds decent.
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^LOL I just wanted the track. It's pretty hot!
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^LOL I just wanted the track. It's pretty hot!
Fuck those other cats featured.
haha. Face is the man! Great verse as usual. Pretty good song overall actually.
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Scarface; The Untouchable review in The Source April 1997
http://thimk.wordpress.com/2009/11/01/life-before-death-the-source-april-1997-issue-featuring-the-notorious-b-i-g/
(http://thimk.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/record-report1.jpg?w=500&h=646)
(http://thimk.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/record-report2.jpg?w=500&h=646)
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Chad that's crazy you posted that review of Untouchable cuz I'm bumpin' that album now :o
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Chad that's crazy you posted that review of Untouchable cuz I'm bumpin' that album now :o
Another underrated classic from Face
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Scarface has too many classics, both in terms of albums and songs
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Scarface has too many classics, both in terms of albums and songs
Yeah he really does. I am going to have to dust this album off too and bump it again.
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FM Duke feat. Scarface; Niggaz 2 Da End (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?qni5tngmnmi)
of Real Life Rock (Street Thesis Vol 1) 2010
(http://i50.tinypic.com/34fb3hh.jpg)
Scarface; Steve Francis Reebok Commercial (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ttgmwz1kqbz) produced by Kanye West