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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Shallow on February 02, 2009, 11:28:47 AM
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As many here know I'm a big Boss fan. I was just wondering what non-Bruce music fans thought of the Halftime show last night at the Superbowl.
I'll admit I was a bit worried about how he'd do in a compressed 12 minutes but I really thought he pulled it off and had a great little set with a lot of fun, comedy, and rock and roll. I think it really showed a lot of fans from the 80s that he can still go in concert (no tthat he needs help since his last tour that just wrapped up last year made 200 million dollars).
So what about everyone else's thoughts? I'm not asking to argue and tell anyone they were wrong if they didn't like it. I'm just wondering.
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Im not a fan of "the boss" but it was a good performance. Although I dont think he could top the performance PRINCE put on last year.
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Im not a fan of "the boss" but it was a good performance. Although I dont think he could top the performance PRINCE put on last year.
I loved Prince's last year and put it neck and neck with this year's. I'd give Bruce the edge but that's my personal bias at work.
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just posted this in the superbowl thread
^ shallow no comment on bruce? i thought he was good but pretty predictable line up, i guessed all exept 10th ave freeze out, they were bustin him on espn cause he didnt do born in the usa, saying 'there was young people there and he was doing complex songs' or something along that, some dumb shit
but also, that fat guy with the doo rag anoyed me
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oh and on bruce, how do you like his new album, ive yet to check it, havent even peeped magic yet, read a bad review this morning but from a bad source,
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i turned on Wipeout on like ABC or TBS lol.
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since we on the music topic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCDNaP11hwM&feature=dir
why bobby why, it would have been an ok commercial (even though i hate the idea of my favorite artists being used for marketing), But that fag will-i-am, wtf, ANYONE would have been better than him
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just posted this in the superbowl thread
^ shallow no comment on bruce? i thought he was good but pretty predictable line up, i guessed all exept 10th ave freeze out, they were bustin him on espn cause he didnt do born in the usa, saying 'there was young people there and he was doing complex songs' or something along that, some dumb shit
but also, that fat guy with the doo rag anoyed me
Predictable is what he should have went for. No one wants to hear The Ghost of Tom Joad on the Superbowl, and most of his hidden gems that are incredible live, like the 99/2000 Light of Day, are way too long for a Superbowl half time show.
I knew Tenth Ave was going to start because of reports from the practices. It was just Bruce having fun, like he did in most of the 80s, and the Magic tour. My ideal show would have a 4 minute Bandlands ending with the crowd "ooohs" that goes right into an 8 minute Light of Day. But the way it ended up was great. It was like little snap shots of a full show and of his career. They basically opened with the BTR Album picture.
Born in the USA would have been silly, but most people still don't get it's a protest song and thought it was going to be played. Glory Days fit the mood, and it's really not a song that gets played that much.
As for the albums. The Rising, Magic, and WOAD are a trilogy films (with Devils and Dust being like a TV series that aired between the first two films). Rising was trying to heal from the tragedy, Magic was letting that tragedy nearly destroy you (with D and D setting it up a bit), and WOAD is releasing yourself from all that and just trying to live again, but never forgetting your past. It is very much like the last trilogy he released (BTR, Darkness, and River. But no where near as good).
9/11 happens and that sparks The Rising. It's about going through that loss, and mourning, but there are also songs on it like Waiting on a Sunny Day, Lets Be Friends, and Mary's Place that set up WOAD by telling stories of people trying to find light in the darkness. Magic is about post-9/11 USA, the Iraq war, invasion of rights and privacy, sneaky politics, and WOAD is finally letting go of everything just loving again.
The album starts with a story of a man trying to run from his past and almost dieing because of it and the album ends with a tearful eulogy. It's basic thesis is don't forget all the bad things that have happened and don't run from all the bad things you've done, but don't consume yourself with them and don't forget to live because death can be around the corner for anyone at any time.
But it's approach is very different, almost WIESS-esque, and very abstract. Bruce could have told this whole story in the vein of D and D or Joad and told it brilliantly with lyrics like he always can, but he slowly toned the lyrics down with each album of the three and pumped the music up. Rising was straight forward, Magic was almost Born in the USA like with it's harder songs depicting sadder themes, and WOAD is almost kooky in parts, some guys on the Bruce boards call it stoner music.
But in the end it makes sense, to me at least, the world in each album is seen through different eyes. He's sad in the Rising, cynical in Magic, and basically so jubilated in WOAD he seems crazy, and so does the world. The first song, Outlaw Pete could have been the plot lay out for a 60s Clint Eastwood cowboy film, but the last song is very somber as it is a tribute to fallen member Danny Federici, but does so with a proper reference to Wild Billy's Circus Story from his second album, referencing the crazy while not being upfront about it (since you can't make a parody song for a guy who really died).
Bruce seems to make fun of himself a lot, or at least make fun of his old overly-romantic character from the old songs. Queen of the Supermarket almost sounds like a Ben Stiller parody of Bruce singing a Bruce song with it's lyrics, and many fans hate that idea.
I haven't fully figured out either of the three yet but I'm getting there slowly. They each got 5 stars from Rollingstone and i think in hindsight they'll be seen as deserving those grades, and just about every credible music source gave all three albums great reviews so it's not just Rollingstone on Bruce's dick again.
Anyway, I highly recommend listening to all three in order when you get the time.
If you just want to tune in to some of the newer tracks to check them out I'd recommend My Lucky Day, Good Eye, Life Itself, Kingdom of Days, and The Last Carnival. Also "This Life" has a great Motown style intro.
"that fat guy with the doo rag?"
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"that fat guy with the doo rag?"
Steve Van Zandt?
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"that fat guy with the doo rag?"
Steve Van Zandt?
I hope he's not talking about Miami Steve, aka Sylvio Dante.
Little Steven with his radio show, and on stage coolness, is one of the great ones. All of my music friends that absolutely loathe Bruce always give their respects to Van Zandt.
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^ i just thought he was goofy, dont dislike him, or have any reason for any feel any certain way, but thats is what it is, and i dont watch sopranos, but lookin at pics, wow, i almost didnt recognize,
but thanks for the album info, im still at the tip of the iceberg with bruce esp with post 80s stuff, but ill def eventually give full proper listens to all his stuff, im currently in love with open all night, also wat did you think of the inauguration performance of the rising, i like the dynamic of bruce with solo guitar and the entire choir
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I thought it was pretty cool. I wouldn't know where to start with his music though, it seems that people enjoy his new stuff as much as they enjoy his older albums.
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who even watches the halftime show?
lord knows I took a 20 minute break from the TV
no need to see back-to-back-to-back advertisements
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who even watches the halftime show?
lord knows I took a 20 minute break from the TV
no need to see back-to-back-to-back advertisements
i was happy to watch the commericals, some where pretty dope
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Im not a fan of "the boss" but it was a good performance. Although I dont think he could top the performance PRINCE put on last year.
Prince was 2 years ago, don't remember who was last year, maybe Paul McCartney?
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who even watches the halftime show?
lord knows I took a 20 minute break from the TV
no need to see back-to-back-to-back advertisements
i was happy to watch the commericals, some where pretty dope
like Pepsuber (love that skit from SNL) <----great commercial
& the E-Trade baby commercial, when is golfing. :laugh:
good shit. ;) 8)
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Im not a fan of "the boss" but it was a good performance. Although I dont think he could top the performance PRINCE put on last year.
Prince was 2 years ago, don't remember who was last year, maybe Paul McCartney?
it was tom petty
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Im not a fan of "the boss" but it was a good performance. Although I dont think he could top the performance PRINCE put on last year.
Prince was 2 years ago, don't remember who was last year, maybe Paul McCartney?
it was tom petty
yeah, thats his fucking name! i forgot that shit lol. :stupid:
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yea i never watched the petty, usally halftime is when i relocate, or go on a beer food or weed run, etc.
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I was trying to find a way to get into Bruce since he's so legendary but I just couldn't do it, I feel it was too lame- Bruce is past his prime when it comes to doing shows/events like these. If you ask me I'd say so is Stevie Wonder and alot of older artist. It just didn't fit in with what's hot or even relevant in 2009. 2009 shouldn't belong to any older generation artist (not even Dr. Dre - even though I'm shitting in my pants waiting for Detox). Since it was a caucasian event (every commercial was white even though 85% of the NFL is Black and the crowd was so colorful that night lol) they should've had someone like Kid Rock do the show or even Marylin Manson hell even Madonna would've been a more decent showcase (shitty but more decent than Springsteen). I think the old corporate folks just did what they wanted to do and not really considered what other people would've rather of seen instead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5wWQolRkxM
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I was trying to find a way to get into Bruce since he's so legendary but I just couldn't do it, I feel it was too lame- Bruce is past his prime when it comes to doing shows/events like these. If you ask me I'd say so is Stevie Wonder and alot of older artist. It just didn't fit in with what was hot or even relevant in 2009. 2009 shouldn't belong to any older generation artist (not even Dr. Dre - even though I'm shitting in my pants waiting for Detox). Since it was a caucasian event (every commercial was white even though 85% of the NFL is Black and the crowd was so colorful that night lol) they should've had someone like Kid Rock do the show or even Marylin Manson hell even Madonna would've been a more decent showcase (shitty but more decent than Springsteen). I think the old corporate folks just did what they wanted to do and not really considered what other people would've rather of seen instead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5wWQolRkxM
I don't know. Bruce had been asked since '85 and he may as well have done it at least once. He's still the top touring act in the world every time he goes on big tours, and he usually gets voted the best touring act by a lot of credible concert going publications.
Not sure how I Wayne would fare with an American football crowd, but fyi The Wailers first shows in the US were playing on sets with BRuce back in the early 70s in New York clubs. Bruce was a big fan. He'd also play with Jimmy Cliff every now and then.
^ i just thought he was goofy, dont dislike him, or have any reason for any feel any certain way, but thats is what it is, and i dont watch sopranos, but lookin at pics, wow, i almost didnt recognize,
but thanks for the album info, im still at the tip of the iceberg with bruce esp with post 80s stuff, but ill def eventually give full proper listens to all his stuff, im currently in love with open all night, also wat did you think of the inauguration performance of the rising, i like the dynamic of bruce with solo guitar and the entire choir
He was goofy. Usually is. That's why I love him. Usually "It's Boss Time" gets followed by a great Bruce guitar solo. Guess they didn't have the time.
I thought the Obama thing was okay. Didn't blow me away or anything.
Have you heard the Seeger Session Open All Night? Very different take on it, but a fun one.
I thought it was pretty cool. I wouldn't know where to start with his music though, it seems that people enjoy his new stuff as much as they enjoy his older albums.
You start with the Born to Run album and a lyric sheet and you imagine a summer evening about to become night. Then you listen once more with out the lyric sheet in the dark and let Bruce tell the story and then you'll know if he's for you or not. If you see the movie play out in your mind as you listen then you get it. If you don't then you don't get it. Which is fine by the way. It's not like not getting Springsteen and getting Springsteen are matters of intelligence or credibility. I don't get Miles Davis (yet) but I'd never question his genius.
After Born to Run you listen to Darkness On The Edge of Town, and then the River to finish the story. Then I have this great Bootleg from 78 that is a must have if you like other stuff I mentioned.
I love the new stuff but his old stuff blows that out of the water. It's like the Godfather. As a stand a lone film part 3 is pretty solid compared to films of it's time, but compared to 1 and 2?
who even watches the halftime show?
lord knows I took a 20 minute break from the TV
no need to see back-to-back-to-back advertisements
Quite a lot of people do. Remember that usually the Superbowl audience is like three times as big as the audiences for the NFC and AFC Championship games. So we're talking about a lot of non-football fans who like the spectacle, and the halftime and commercials are a part of that.
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^ ive come to accept that a lot of his stuff i have to listen 1st with a lyric sheet to get the full effect, only then will i be able to know all the lyrics afterwards, sometimes wether his voice or the music, i just feel like im not getting it all, (mostly his songs with a full ensamble). as for miles, that opening track of kind of blue got me in love, but theres a def kind of mood i gotta be in to just sit around and listen to jazz, or drive around, and i hate using it as background music cause all the elements are so amazing
as for the type of music for halftime shows, i feel like you gotta do classy older stuff like stevie, petty, mccartney, bruce... i cant imagine if this halftime show was ( lil wayne, ne-yo, ti, rihanna, and the jonas brothers (random artists im not big on the current popular scene) i think in the overall effect less people would be happy, cause i think anyone over 40 likes the classic artists, and a lot of people 25-40, as opposed to the popular artists today, its not the superbowl halftimes shows job to be relevant to 09, but to be relevant to the audience, and also to the people with the $, not 17 year old schoolgirls and wiggers...
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^ ive come to accept that a lot of his stuff i have to listen 1st with a lyric sheet to get the full effect, only then will i be able to know all the lyrics afterwards, sometimes wether his voice or the music, i just feel like im not getting it all, (mostly his songs with a full ensamble). as for miles, that opening track of kind of blue got me in love, but theres a def kind of mood i gotta be in to just sit around and listen to jazz, or drive around, and i hate using it as background music cause all the elements are so amazing
Backstreets is maybe my favorite recording of all time, by anyone, and I still don't know all the lyrics. But even on first listen, I could could feel every word. That's the song that got me hooked on him.
And Radiotube, just for kicks, here's Bruce doing some Reggae. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AWXIEOW3
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I wasn't saying use I Wayne as a halftime show artist lol! but it would've been better nonetheless *i always put youtube links in my post*. I'm not hating on Bruce and he's damn sure popular as fuck and he should be considering how long he's been in the game and still selling out shows. But it just didn't catch me like I have a feeling some of his songs are capable of (I was feeling the Intro with the 'bad ass' guitars). And for the record, "highly" rated opinionators opinions dont mean anything to me, I stopped paying attention once I caught on to the movie raters thing like "best movie of the year" and "breath taking" and "must see movie of the year" every movie gets the same rating LOL :D so I can only imagine what they'll say about Springsteen. But as far as keeping the tradition with the older artist doing shows, I think it's about time we change that and put some fresher talent up there... I know they're just halftime shows but for the sake of good tv, it's time we move on past artist like Bon Jovi, Stevie Wonder, Paul McCartney, and the usual suspects. I'm sure alotta people just go to those concerts just as a way of getting out the house (not to downplay it, I'm sure they have good shows too and alot of genuine fans). But like I said/// fresher faces = better shows... Much love to Mr. Springsteen but he should've just stayed at home yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmwdx4Fy_6Y
And don't use one of those corny ass commercial/bubble gum chicken noodle soup rappers neither... Little kids and young teens (13-17) like those records not the majority of Hip Hop fans and listeners (there's a broad range of artist that can make dancable songs). It doesn't even have to be just a rapper, What about a GoGo band???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nEd-t4FzD8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6XBDWStLiQ&feature=related (fastforward to 1:50)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4bgTgbOUNY (EVERYBODY WOULD'VE BEEN ROCKIN TO THIS!!! TRUST ME) Even the older white people :D Especially when you hear it Live, it's so unbelievable- you'll feel it. This is an untapped form of better/more positive entertainment (MamboSauce is a good example too)
There's more the NFL can do to provide a better and fresher show.
*edited 11:42pm* on the Eastcoast
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^ you cant have the superbowl, the most watched event all year, have some band (i dont even know wtf a go go band is) that nobody knows of, that doesnt make sence, and if you dont get a pop rapper, your gonna get some grimey underground 100k record sales rapper? cause he keeps it real?
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I wasn't saying use I Wayne as a halftime show artist lol! but it would've been better nonetheless *i always put youtube links in my post*. I'm not hating on Bruce and he's damn sure popular as fuck and he should be considering how long he's been in the game and still selling out shows. But it just didn't catch me like I have a feeling some of his songs are capable of (I was feeling the Intro with the 'bad ass' guitars). And for the record, "highly" rated opinionators opinions dont mean anything to me, I stopped paying attention once I caught on to the movie raters thing like "best movie of the year" and "breath taking" and "must see movie of the year" every movie gets the same rating LOL :D so I can only imagine what they'll say about Springsteen. But as far as keeping the tradition with the older artist doing shows, I think it's about time we change that and put some fresher talent up there... I know they're just halftime shows but for the sake of good tv, it's time we move on past artist like Bon Jovi, Stevie Wonder, Paul McCartney, and the usual suspects. I'm sure alotta people just go to those concerts just as a way of getting out the house (not to downplay it, I'm sure they have good shows too and alot of genuine fans). But like I said/// fresher faces = better shows... Much love to Mr. Springsteen but he should've just stayed at home yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmwdx4Fy_6Y
And don't use one of those corny ass commercial/bubble gum chicken noodle soup rappers neither... Little kids and young teens (13-17) like those records not the majority of Hip Hop fans and listeners (there's a broad range of artist that can make dancable songs). It doesn't even have to be just a rapper, What about a GoGo band???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nEd-t4FzD8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6XBDWStLiQ&feature=related (fastforward to 1:50)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4bgTgbOUNY (EVERYBODY WOULD'VE BEEN ROCKIN TO THIS!!! TRUST ME) Even the older white people :D Especially when you hear it Live, it's so unbelievable- you'll feel it. This is an untapped form of better/more positive entertainment (MamboSauce is a good example too)
There's more the NFL can do to provide a better and fresher show.
*edited 11:42pm* on the Eastcoast
If you don't like the style you don't like the style. Don't like what reviewers say, take it from me, I saw Bruce in 07 and it was a 2 and hour a 40 minute amazing show. The band has amazing musical talent and he knows how to put on a show, and I've seen a lot of people perform. I was just pointing out the reviews to show he wasn't just up there for his legend status. If Springsteen started to suck a long the way he would have quit by now.
Anyway there is a much bigger reason for legends making the best half time shows. Every live performer will tell you the bigger the venue the harder it is to keep the people focused on you. Bruce had masted the 40,000+ stadium over 20 years ago, and had been doing it well ever since. There isa big difference between entertaining a few hundred people in a dance hall that all the like same music and entertaining 60,000 people in a giant bowl.
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He was high energy and he just looked like he was having a lot of fun The epic knee slide sold it for me 8) And it does crack me up the amount of people who never paid anymind to the lyrics of Born in the USA. Completely changes the entire vibe of the song.
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He was high energy and he just looked like he was having a lot of fun The epic knee slide sold it for me 8) And it does crack me up the amount of people who never paid anymind to the lyrics of Born in the USA. Completely changes the entire vibe of the song.
I got to see an entire HD screen filled with Bruce's crotch. I'm not gay, but I came close. lol
Have you heard any acoustic versions of Born in the USA?
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It's clear white boy & shallow shouldn't be on HipHop forums. You can have a non-worldwide known band get on the stage and rock it (i dont wanna sound racist but you white folks do it all the time). And who said we have to have a "grimey" rapper get on and do tha damn thang, I know when and where hardcore rap has it's place (I'm not 12yrs old). I was simply saying that we dont wanna hear that bubble gum pop rap shit because you think ALL of us black people like that shit (and trust me alot of dont, read different forums or ask someone (any race, any age) in the street and you'll see). You can't please everybody but just because you think Bruce Springsteen is god doesn't mean everybody is diggin' him and his band. GoGo music is popular in more places than you think (NJ, NC, SC, GA, FL, DEL, NY, MA, for a few places). Every superbowl show I've watched always has somebody thats whiter than Al Gore playing the music during the halftime (even Prince), but the NFL is mainly Black (we shouldnt have to cater to ya'll because alot of white people don't like what we/everybody else likes, supposedly- demographically speaking). Like I said no bubblegum raps (use Wale or Tabi Bonney or Good Charlotte) and no Springsteen. Why wasn't Yo Yo Ma on? What about Carlos Santana and an RnB singer up there? What about a Willie Nelson & Snoop Dogg show? Bruce might still be selling and very popular but that whole show just wasn't doing it for me. Even my Dad who I swear can pass for the Whitest Black Man sometimes wasn't even diggin' Springsteen and he's all about good school music like that. Who are you to say I'm wrong about putting a GoGo Band up there anyways, have you even been to a show, they have shows damn near everyday and are always sellin' out (BackYard Band, Chuck Brown a LEGEND, Rare Essence) .... look for em sometime. Everybody love the GoGo when they go to a show and I aint just talking about my people. I'm hip to these white corporate execs tryna appeal to the Lou Dobbs & Joe The Plumber audience without everybody else in mind too. Everything clearly was showing that during the entire show, I wasn't even counting how many black people were on tv (not even thinking about that shit) until it was just real obvious... I think I counted like two by the time I noticed. But NBC and FOX and all of those stations are known for that 'view', I watch the news all day everyday... But like I said about the GoGo music or any music, don't knock it if you dont know what you're talking about, you have to go to a show (GoGo) to know what I'm saying, and not youtube! Because if GoGo music is an acquired taste then so is Springsteen.
GoGo Classics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qqyx9NPlv0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzzMaFqqtBo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XGkQ_sVv98
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKcfWhmPOCY&feature=related (women love this)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6gtcy9qN5s&feature=related (killed that chick on her own song, they made 1000 times more listenable)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRhJ3P0WcXc&feature=related (umbrella)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OCX99jNr9w&feature=related (Wale, GoGo Music, & Warren G all in one)
and the list goes on...
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It's clear white boy & shallow shouldn't be on HipHop forums. You can have a non-worldwide known band get on the stage and rock it (i dont wanna sound racist but you white folks do it all the time). And who said we have to have a "grimey" rapper get on and do tha damn thang, I know when and where hardcore rap has it's place (I'm not 12yrs old). I was simply saying that we dont wanna hear that bubble gum pop rap shit because you think ALL of us black people like that shit (and trust me alot of dont, read different forums or ask someone (any race, any age) in the street and you'll see). You can't please everybody but just because you think Bruce Springsteen is god doesn't mean everybody is diggin' him and his band. GoGo music is popular in more places than you think (NJ, NC, SC, GA, FL, DEL, NY, MA, for a few places). Every superbowl show I've watched always has somebody thats whiter than Al Gore playing the music during the halftime (even Prince), but the NFL is mainly Black (we shouldnt have to cater to ya'll because alot of white people don't like what we/everybody else likes, supposedly- demographically speaking). Like I said no bubblegum raps (use Wale or Tabi Bonney or Good Charlotte) and no Springsteen. Why wasn't Yo Yo Ma on? What about Carlos Santana and an RnB singer up there? What about a Willie Nelson & Snoop Dogg show? Bruce might still be selling and very popular but that whole show just wasn't doing it for me. Even my Dad who I swear can pass for the Whitest Black Man sometimes wasn't even diggin' Springsteen and he's all about good school music like that. Who are you to say I'm wrong about putting a GoGo Band up there anyways, have you even been to a show, they have shows damn near everyday and are always sellin' out (BackYard Band, Chuck Brown a LEGEND, Rare Essence) .... look for em sometime. Everybody love the GoGo when they go to a show and I aint just talking about my people. I'm hip to these white corporate execs tryna appeal to the Lou Dobbs & Joe The Plumber audience without everybody else in mind too. Everything clearly was showing that during the entire show, I wasn't even counting how many black people were on tv (not even thinking about that shit) until it was just real obvious... I think I counted like two by the time I noticed. But NBC and FOX and all of those stations are known for that 'view', I watch the news all day everyday... But like I said about the GoGo music or any music, don't knock it if you dont know what you're talking about, you have to go to a show (GoGo) to know what I'm saying, and not youtube! Because if GoGo music is an acquired taste then so is Springsteen.
GoGo Classics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qqyx9NPlv0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzzMaFqqtBo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XGkQ_sVv98
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKcfWhmPOCY&feature=related (women love this)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6gtcy9qN5s&feature=related (killed that chick on her own song, they made 1000 times more listenable)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRhJ3P0WcXc&feature=related (umbrella)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OCX99jNr9w&feature=related (Wale, GoGo Music, & Warren G all in one)
and the list goes on...
What the fuck are you talking about? I never said Springsteen entertained every single person watching. But you aren't providing any facts. Where do these go go bands sell out in the places you mentioned. Have you ever seen a single act fill up a Football stadium in the US for their concert? Because I've never heard of that. The last time Bruce was begged to do the half time show was '03, and that same year he sold out Giant Stadium (where the Giants and Jets play) 10 nights in a row. 500,000 tickets were sold in a matter of hours.
Springsteen plays a lot of black music by the way, and just because it's not the black music you like doesn't make it Lou Dobbs music. BB King whose as black as it gets with music often complains that not many black people come to his shows. And the NFL tried an half time show with Nelly, Kid Rock, Timberlake, Janet, and Diddy in 2004 and it fucking sucked, that's why they stay away from it. There is a reason why the top rappers can't sell stadiums time and again; they don't know how to work them. People go see someone like Nelly or Jay Z once in a larger venue like a hockey arena, play 100 bucks and leave thinking we'll at least I saw him live (I've been to and sen the reactions post-show). When I want to the Springsteen show last October I saw plenty of people that had never been to a show before, young people, and while not every single person left with a new outlook on life, I saw a lot of young people amazed at how good at was and talking about how they gotta come back the next time he's town. Springsteen was the type of guy that used to make records just so he could go on tour, that's where he was best.
I don't know about your Go go bands, and I'm not saying they are incapable of doing big shows but when picking someone to entertain 60,000 football (who are mostly white. Players might be black, but viewers are still majority white) the NFL wants someone they know can do it.
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It's clear white boy & shallow shouldn't be on HipHop forums. You can have a non-worldwide known band get on the stage and rock it (i dont wanna sound racist but you white folks do it all the time). And who said we have to have a "grimey" rapper get on and do tha damn thang, I know when and where hardcore rap has it's place (I'm not 12yrs old). I was simply saying that we dont wanna hear that bubble gum pop rap shit because you think ALL of us black people like that shit (and trust me alot of dont, read different forums or ask someone (any race, any age) in the street and you'll see). You can't please everybody but just because you think Bruce Springsteen is god doesn't mean everybody is diggin' him and his band. GoGo music is popular in more places than you think (NJ, NC, SC, GA, FL, DEL, NY, MA, for a few places). Every superbowl show I've watched always has somebody thats whiter than Al Gore playing the music during the halftime (even Prince), but the NFL is mainly Black (we shouldnt have to cater to ya'll because alot of white people don't like what we/everybody else likes, supposedly- demographically speaking). Like I said no bubblegum raps (use Wale or Tabi Bonney or Good Charlotte) and no Springsteen. Why wasn't Yo Yo Ma on? What about Carlos Santana and an RnB singer up there? What about a Willie Nelson & Snoop Dogg show? Bruce might still be selling and very popular but that whole show just wasn't doing it for me. Even my Dad who I swear can pass for the Whitest Black Man sometimes wasn't even diggin' Springsteen and he's all about good school music like that. Who are you to say I'm wrong about putting a GoGo Band up there anyways, have you even been to a show, they have shows damn near everyday and are always sellin' out (BackYard Band, Chuck Brown a LEGEND, Rare Essence) .... look for em sometime. Everybody love the GoGo when they go to a show and I aint just talking about my people. I'm hip to these white corporate execs tryna appeal to the Lou Dobbs & Joe The Plumber audience without everybody else in mind too. Everything clearly was showing that during the entire show, I wasn't even counting how many black people were on tv (not even thinking about that shit) until it was just real obvious... I think I counted like two by the time I noticed. But NBC and FOX and all of those stations are known for that 'view', I watch the news all day everyday... But like I said about the GoGo music or any music, don't knock it if you dont know what you're talking about, you have to go to a show (GoGo) to know what I'm saying, and not youtube! Because if GoGo music is an acquired taste then so is Springsteen.
GoGo Classics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qqyx9NPlv0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzzMaFqqtBo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XGkQ_sVv98
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKcfWhmPOCY&feature=related (women love this)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6gtcy9qN5s&feature=related (killed that chick on her own song, they made 1000 times more listenable)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRhJ3P0WcXc&feature=related (umbrella)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OCX99jNr9w&feature=related (Wale, GoGo Music, & Warren G all in one)
and the list goes on...
What the fuck are you talking about? I never said Springsteen entertained every single person watching. But you aren't providing any facts. Where do these go go bands sell out in the places you mentioned. Have you ever seen a single act fill up a Football stadium in the US for their concert? Because I've never heard of that. The last time Bruce was begged to do the half time show was '03, and that same year he sold out Giant Stadium (where the Giants and Jets play) 10 nights in a row. 500,000 tickets were sold in a matter of hours.
Springsteen plays a lot of black music by the way, and just because it's not the black music you like doesn't make it Lou Dobbs music. BB King whose as black as it gets with music often complains that not many black people come to his shows. And the NFL tried an half time show with Nelly, Kid Rock, Timberlake, Janet, and Diddy in 2004 and it fucking sucked, that's why they stay away from it. There is a reason why the top rappers can't sell stadiums time and again; they don't know how to work them. People go see someone like Nelly or Jay Z once in a larger venue like a hockey arena, play 100 bucks and leave thinking we'll at least I saw him live (I've been to and sen the reactions post-show). When I want to the Springsteen show last October I saw plenty of people that had never been to a show before, young people, and while not every single person left with a new outlook on life, I saw a lot of young people amazed at how good at was and talking about how they gotta come back the next time he's town. Springsteen was the type of guy that used to make records just so he could go on tour, that's where he was best.
I don't know about your Go go bands, and I'm not saying they are incapable of doing big shows but when picking someone to entertain 60,000 football (who are mostly white. Players might be black, but viewers are still majority white) the NFL wants someone they know can do it.
Who said I was downplaying Bruce, I never was, I know the man is a fuckin' music legend-- never doubted it, but just because white people are the majority in America doesn't mean ya'll always have to get your way. And it's not about Black music or White music, it's about good music and Springsteen if you ask me sounds like someone who's living off of his name and not actually putting out something "time" lasting (atleast not in a while). And you mentioned Nelly & Diddy- News flash homey, Noone fucks wit those two bastards like that, that was EXACTLY wat I was mentioning when I said bubblegum rap. Nobody fucks with those two like that (LOL those two are the definition of bubblegum rap sucka mc'n that the majority hates). I dont care how many venues you can fill up, all I care about is good music, and those songs Bruce played werent doing it for me at all, I wanted to leave and take a shit halfway thru... this isn't BlueBrothers 2010 dogg, that shit is cool for the older white people out there, but for the sports players and the generation (40 and under) Springsteen isn't a god or someone relevant, Weird Al played him out back in the day. Just bcuz people like Diddy or Nelly or Jay Z is popular doesnt mean we want to see them in every spotlight oppurtunity, if your talking about commercial rap music, why don't you put Dr. Dre or 50 in the show with a live band and see how it rocks, i can almost guarantee it'll be a smash for everybody if it's done right (and knowing Dr. Dre's maticulousness ::)) it'll be a sure thing. The NFL is worldwide, not worldwhite so gettit straight when your talking about the majority. And as far as GoGo and selling out shows i'll leave it at this- You know about as much about GoGo as I do with Springsteen- GoGo shows are done all over the country and not in just Maryland & DC & Virginia and they always come raw. I think if you actually gave it a listen (not just on YouTube! then you would understand). Like I said, you can pick up those Jonas Brothers, Lou Dobbs, & John King from CNN fans but you can't capture everybody. BB King is a little too old fashioned too, Blues isnt wat it was back in the day, we've evolved from Blues in my culture, it pretty much was dead when Rick James & George Clinton hit the scene... you want the old artist to still get their shine on (nothing wrong with that) but you have to admit when it's time for them to get off the stage. If Springsteen was still all that hot with everybody and still all that relevant, we'd be hearing alot more about him and not just concert reviews from Roadies and Groupies. I thought that dude was retired lol. Point blank, the NFL needs to do a better job with picking talent for these shows and be more culturally diverse, not appeal to just the people you would find in Sean Hannity's iPod.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2-BZmEX9p4 Check it and you'll see what I'm talking about. As far as Hip Hop goes this is what we wanna hear, not Diddy or Nelly LMAO :D
I still cant believe you think Nelly & Diddy was supposed to be a 'pass' or something :laugh:. that just proves that the white man still dont understand the black man lol! If you want some real music some good music, have a buncha popular artist do a show collectively as one group (a famous drummer, some famous singers (soul/rnb and country together), some famous guitar players (one rock, one jazz, one country), a famous choir, a famous grand piano player, a GOOD rapper that we can appreciate and not just a name, a famous violinist, a famous chelloist, and so on. Get creative, get good, dont just sell it bcuz of a brand- do it for the sake of music and unity, not a dollar.
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since we on the music topic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCDNaP11hwM&feature=dir
why bobby why, it would have been an ok commercial (even though i hate the idea of my favorite artists being used for marketing), But that fag will-i-am, wtf, ANYONE would have been better than him
off topic, but good job on the rebranding of Pepsi.
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i dont have the patience to answer homeboy, but on a sidenote, i saw bb king a couple months ago at a pretty small venue in trenton, it was fuckin dopeness, dude is 83, and still sings dope as hell, plays amazing, had a dope ass band with him, told awesome stories, real cool as dude
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It's clear white boy & shallow shouldn't be on HipHop forums. You can have a non-worldwide known band get on the stage and rock it (i dont wanna sound racist but you white folks do it all the time). And who said we have to have a "grimey" rapper get on and do tha damn thang, I know when and where hardcore rap has it's place (I'm not 12yrs old). I was simply saying that we dont wanna hear that bubble gum pop rap shit because you think ALL of us black people like that shit (and trust me alot of dont, read different forums or ask someone (any race, any age) in the street and you'll see). You can't please everybody but just because you think Bruce Springsteen is god doesn't mean everybody is diggin' him and his band. GoGo music is popular in more places than you think (NJ, NC, SC, GA, FL, DEL, NY, MA, for a few places). Every superbowl show I've watched always has somebody thats whiter than Al Gore playing the music during the halftime (even Prince), but the NFL is mainly Black (we shouldnt have to cater to ya'll because alot of white people don't like what we/everybody else likes, supposedly- demographically speaking). Like I said no bubblegum raps (use Wale or Tabi Bonney or Good Charlotte) and no Springsteen. Why wasn't Yo Yo Ma on? What about Carlos Santana and an RnB singer up there? What about a Willie Nelson & Snoop Dogg show? Bruce might still be selling and very popular but that whole show just wasn't doing it for me. Even my Dad who I swear can pass for the Whitest Black Man sometimes wasn't even diggin' Springsteen and he's all about good school music like that. Who are you to say I'm wrong about putting a GoGo Band up there anyways, have you even been to a show, they have shows damn near everyday and are always sellin' out (BackYard Band, Chuck Brown a LEGEND, Rare Essence) .... look for em sometime. Everybody love the GoGo when they go to a show and I aint just talking about my people. I'm hip to these white corporate execs tryna appeal to the Lou Dobbs & Joe The Plumber audience without everybody else in mind too. Everything clearly was showing that during the entire show, I wasn't even counting how many black people were on tv (not even thinking about that shit) until it was just real obvious... I think I counted like two by the time I noticed. But NBC and FOX and all of those stations are known for that 'view', I watch the news all day everyday... But like I said about the GoGo music or any music, don't knock it if you dont know what you're talking about, you have to go to a show (GoGo) to know what I'm saying, and not youtube! Because if GoGo music is an acquired taste then so is Springsteen.
GoGo Classics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qqyx9NPlv0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzzMaFqqtBo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XGkQ_sVv98
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKcfWhmPOCY&feature=related (women love this)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6gtcy9qN5s&feature=related (killed that chick on her own song, they made 1000 times more listenable)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRhJ3P0WcXc&feature=related (umbrella)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OCX99jNr9w&feature=related (Wale, GoGo Music, & Warren G all in one)
and the list goes on...
What the fuck are you talking about? I never said Springsteen entertained every single person watching. But you aren't providing any facts. Where do these go go bands sell out in the places you mentioned. Have you ever seen a single act fill up a Football stadium in the US for their concert? Because I've never heard of that. The last time Bruce was begged to do the half time show was '03, and that same year he sold out Giant Stadium (where the Giants and Jets play) 10 nights in a row. 500,000 tickets were sold in a matter of hours.
Springsteen plays a lot of black music by the way, and just because it's not the black music you like doesn't make it Lou Dobbs music. BB King whose as black as it gets with music often complains that not many black people come to his shows. And the NFL tried an half time show with Nelly, Kid Rock, Timberlake, Janet, and Diddy in 2004 and it fucking sucked, that's why they stay away from it. There is a reason why the top rappers can't sell stadiums time and again; they don't know how to work them. People go see someone like Nelly or Jay Z once in a larger venue like a hockey arena, play 100 bucks and leave thinking we'll at least I saw him live (I've been to and sen the reactions post-show). When I want to the Springsteen show last October I saw plenty of people that had never been to a show before, young people, and while not every single person left with a new outlook on life, I saw a lot of young people amazed at how good at was and talking about how they gotta come back the next time he's town. Springsteen was the type of guy that used to make records just so he could go on tour, that's where he was best.
I don't know about your Go go bands, and I'm not saying they are incapable of doing big shows but when picking someone to entertain 60,000 football (who are mostly white. Players might be black, but viewers are still majority white) the NFL wants someone they know can do it.
Who said I was downplaying Bruce, I never was, I know the man is a fuckin' music legend-- never doubted it, but just because white people are the majority in America doesn't mean ya'll always have to get your way. And it's not about Black music or White music, it's about good music and Springsteen if you ask me sounds like someone who's living off of his name and not actually putting out something "time" lasting (atleast not in a while). And you mentioned Nelly & Diddy- News flash homey, Noone fucks wit those two bastards like that, that was EXACTLY wat I was mentioning when I said bubblegum rap. Nobody fucks with those two like that (LOL those two are the definition of bubblegum rap sucka mc'n that the majority hates). I dont care how many venues you can fill up, all I care about is good music, and those songs Bruce played werent doing it for me at all, I wanted to leave and take a shit halfway thru... this isn't BlueBrothers 2010 dogg, that shit is cool for the older white people out there, but for the sports players and the generation (40 and under) Springsteen isn't a god or someone relevant, Weird Al played him out back in the day. Just bcuz people like Diddy or Nelly or Jay Z is popular doesnt mean we want to see them in every spotlight oppurtunity, if your talking about commercial rap music, why don't you put Dr. Dre or 50 in the show with a live band and see how it rocks, i can almost guarantee it'll be a smash for everybody if it's done right (and knowing Dr. Dre's maticulousness ::)) it'll be a sure thing. The NFL is worldwide, not worldwhite so gettit straight when your talking about the majority. And as far as GoGo and selling out shows i'll leave it at this- You know about as much about GoGo as I do with Springsteen- GoGo shows are done all over the country and not in just Maryland & DC & Virginia and they always come raw. I think if you actually gave it a listen (not just on YouTube! then you would understand). Like I said, you can pick up those Jonas Brothers, Lou Dobbs, & John King from CNN fans but you can't capture everybody. BB King is a little too old fashioned too, Blues isnt wat it was back in the day, we've evolved from Blues in my culture, it pretty much was dead when Rick James & George Clinton hit the scene... you want the old artist to still get their shine on (nothing wrong with that) but you have to admit when it's time for them to get off the stage. If Springsteen was still all that hot with everybody and still all that relevant, we'd be hearing alot more about him and not just concert reviews from Roadies and Groupies. I thought that dude was retired lol. Point blank, the NFL needs to do a better job with picking talent for these shows and be more culturally diverse, not appeal to just the people you would find in Sean Hannity's iPod.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2-BZmEX9p4 Check it and you'll see what I'm talking about. As far as Hip Hop goes this is what we wanna hear, not Diddy or Nelly LMAO :D
I still cant believe you think Nelly & Diddy was supposed to be a 'pass' or something :laugh:. that just proves that the white man still dont understand the black man lol! If you want some real music some good music, have a buncha popular artist do a show collectively as one group (a famous drummer, some famous singers (soul/rnb and country together), some famous guitar players (one rock, one jazz, one country), a famous choir, a famous grand piano player, a GOOD rapper that we can appreciate and not just a name, a famous violinist, a famous chelloist, and so on. Get creative, get good, dont just sell it bcuz of a brand- do it for the sake of music and unity, not a dollar.
1) I used the Timberlake/Kid Rock/Diddy and Nelly reference as a form of showing current music in the spotlight, not real hip hop in the spotlight.
2) Dre fucking sucks live. So does 50. The worst time I ever had at a concert was the Up In Smoke tour, and I didn't even know who Springsteen was then.
3) Some of the best albums in the last decade have come from Bruce Springsteen. I listen to his new songs as much as his old ones. He was having twelve minutes of fun at halftime. It's hardly what his albums or live shows are about.
4) No, this isn't 1985 and Bruce isn't the mega star he was but he's hardly been off the radar in the public eye. 4 years ago he was campaigning for John Kerry and stood right beside the man when he gave speeches. 6 months ago he was on the front page of news papers side by side with Obama and at a benefit concert for Obama, he was quoted as saying "I'm running for president because I can't be Bruce Springsteen" in regard to how Bruce was entertaining the crowd. You thought he was retired? That says more about you than about Springsteen.
5) I asked you where Gogo sells out. I didn't tell you. You still haven't answered. I want venues, not cities.
6) NFL is worldwide, but it's mostly white in audience. That's a promise.
7) Stop saying "we". You do not represent black people. You represent Radiotube. More black people know and praise Lil Wayne and The Game than they do Tabi Bonney, Saul Williams, or K'Naan. And watch your mouth wit that evolved shit. Evolve would mean that new artists can do everything the previous stage of that evolution can do and then some. The new artists can't do half what blacks were doing on Beale Street 50 years ago, or Detroit 40 years ago. The talent isn't there like it used to be. All this digital shit has kept artists from learning to play and sing like they used to be able to. Take your top 100 rappers. Add all of their talent together. And it's about one tenth the talent James Brown had on his worst night. Evolved my ass.
8) What was the Weird Al reference? I don't get it.
9) And what's the whole idea with combining a star line up and creating a band? Great bands need chemistry, not just individual talent. What you proposed would sound like a giant mess. Or was that the point you were making.
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i dont have the patience to answer homeboy, but on a sidenote, i saw bb king a couple months ago at a pretty small venue in trenton, it was fuckin dopeness, dude is 83, and still sings dope as hell, plays amazing, had a dope ass band with him, told awesome stories, real cool as dude
Just curios, how many black people were there?
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All I'm going to say is that the Super Bowl isn't the place to discover talent or promote not so famous artists. It isn't Jools Holland. You basically need mega acts that are comfortable with 50k plus crowds.
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i dont have the patience to answer homeboy, but on a sidenote, i saw bb king a couple months ago at a pretty small venue in trenton, it was fuckin dopeness, dude is 83, and still sings dope as hell, plays amazing, had a dope ass band with him, told awesome stories, real cool as dude
Just curios, how many black people were there?
it was trenton which is like 85 % black, so a ok amt id say 15-25 %, but the crowd was sooo varied, from 12 year old girls, to older people, to young people, from hippie looking 60 year olds, to people showing up in a nice sports coat and tie, families and couples, a wide spectrum overall
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wait was there a seperate thread called 'i am not racist' and it was merged with this one?
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i dont have the patience to answer homeboy, but on a sidenote, i saw bb king a couple months ago at a pretty small venue in trenton, it was fuckin dopeness, dude is 83, and still sings dope as hell, plays amazing, had a dope ass band with him, told awesome stories, real cool as dude
Just curios, how many black people were there?
it was trenton which is like 85 % black, so a ok amt id say 15-25 %, but the crowd was sooo varied, from 12 year old girls, to older people, to young people, from hippie looking 60 year olds, to people showing up in a nice sports coat and tie, families and couples, a wide spectrum overall
Fuck Springsteen, he's obviously in your ass balls deep. I dont care about Springsteen and it doesnt matter what "whiteboy"s opinions are bcuz it's hard to have a real debate with you about this. you're tryna tell me I dont represent black folks and tryna make me look like an ass when all I'm doin is keepin it true. when you say "real" hip hop it just makes you look like a white boy bcuz as a nigga you would understand that there's ONLY good music and bad music, not "real" hip hop and fake hip hop as ya'll like to call it. You talk about sellin out shows, do ya research on BackYard Band and most of all Chuck Brown- Chuck Brown probably inspired Springsteen comin up. Chuck been rockin since the 60's. Never in my life have I ever seen a Springsteen video on TV get as much play as the god you claim him to be. You tryna make me seem like I'm goin on Springs when I'm tellin u tha fuckin truth that that dude is waaay past his prime. You can suck Bruce's nuts all you want but I'll be fine playing my old Cat Stevens records and my old UGK Records. Real music (especially in hip hop) isnt put in a way like if an artist is on the underground scene that automatically makes him a "real" artist or more authentic than the person on tv/radio and those who are in the spotlight are fake (i see you're really gassed up on that concept, I guess you havent seen MTV2 either). That show in 04 was a prime example of the shit niggaz dont care to see, and you dont know who I am, I aint tryna sound like no internet square but nigga I got conects out here (whether u want drugs, bitches, music contacts, spots to rob - when & where, and a whole gang of other shit) but this topic is about Springsteen not my credibility. But if the NFL has a mostly white audience then why are ALL the majority of sports (not just the NFL) have mainly black players, u woulda figured somewhere between integration and 2008 white people would've found a way to short cut the blacks again and get on top (I'll give you the MLB). White folx like Springsteen, Black folx like James Brown (rip) point blank. You know, it's kinda like Elvis vs. Quincy Jones.
And how tha fuck are you the person to judge what black people can do now versus back then, that's how I know you dont live near our communities... Fuck outta here with that we cant do shit like we did back in tha 50s and 60s you fuckin faggot. MTV and BET have you brainwashed on who the fuck we are, you trippin on an ice pick for that. And then you have the nerve to mention Barack Obama in the bullshit ass un-most-relevant thing you've mentioned in this topic. You cant be fuckin serious. You're right u are a white boy and you wouldnt have the balls to say any of this to a so called "real" nigga face, you would bitchup and keep your opinions to yourself u fuckin homo ass butt fisher ass nigga.
Yo white boy you can keep your Springsteen fetish in ya ass like a dingleberry bcuz you obviously arent culturally sound enough. Go to a Black church sometime, Go to an inner city school in the lunch rooms and music classes and you'll see what the fuck Blues & Beale Street has evolved into. Go to a college/ All this tv and readin all these interviews have got u gassed. and bitch that bubble your in has popped along time ago. New Jack City, Colors, and BITH and a few 2Pac albums cant tell u how it really is, niggaz die ova dumb shit (true) but niggaz mainly die over broken morals. So you can clear that mind frame outcha' brain. I'm done with you/// Springsteen is soft and the E Street Band cant out rock The Back Yard Band.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C70jCTSPPw&feature=related
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radiotube, I've said it before, but you are by far the most worthless poster here next to momo. Your inane ramblings accomplish nothing and I believe you to be the child of an alcoholic or drug addict. You should delete your account and find full time work digging ditches.
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radiotube, I've said it before, but you are by far the most worthless poster here next to momo. Your inane ramblings accomplish nothing and I believe you to be the child of an alcoholic or drug addict. You should delete your account and find full time work digging ditches.
I'll do that after I finish skull fuckin your mother one last time :yikes:
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i dont have the patience to answer homeboy, but on a sidenote, i saw bb king a couple months ago at a pretty small venue in trenton, it was fuckin dopeness, dude is 83, and still sings dope as hell, plays amazing, had a dope ass band with him, told awesome stories, real cool as dude
Just curios, how many black people were there?
it was trenton which is like 85 % black, so a ok amt id say 15-25 %, but the crowd was sooo varied, from 12 year old girls, to older people, to young people, from hippie looking 60 year olds, to people showing up in a nice sports coat and tie, families and couples, a wide spectrum overall
Fuck Springsteen, he's obviously in your ass balls deep. I dont care about Springsteen and it doesnt matter what "whiteboy"s opinions are bcuz it's hard to have a real debate with you about this. you're tryna tell me I dont represent black folks and tryna make me look like an ass when all I'm doin is keepin it true. when you say "real" hip hop it just makes you look like a white boy bcuz as a nigga you would understand that there's ONLY good music and bad music, not "real" hip hop and fake hip hop as ya'll like to call it. You talk about sellin out shows, do ya research on BackYard Band and most of all Chuck Brown- Chuck Brown probably inspired Springsteen comin up. Chuck been rockin since the 60's. Never in my life have I ever seen a Springsteen video on TV get as much play as the god you claim him to be. You tryna make me seem like I'm goin on Springs when I'm tellin u tha fuckin truth that that dude is waaay past his prime. You can suck Bruce's nuts all you want but I'll be fine playing my old Cat Stevens records and my old UGK Records. Real music (especially in hip hop) isnt put in a way like if an artist is on the underground scene that automatically makes him a "real" artist or more authentic than the person on tv/radio and those who are in the spotlight are fake (i see you're really gassed up on that concept, I guess you havent seen MTV2 either). That show in 04 was a prime example of the shit niggaz dont care to see, and you dont know who I am, I aint tryna sound like no internet square but nigga I got conects out here (whether u want drugs, bitches, music contacts, spots to rob - when & where, and a whole gang of other shit) but this topic is about Springsteen not my credibility. But if the NFL has a mostly white audience then why are ALL the majority of sports (not just the NFL) have mainly black players, u woulda figured somewhere between integration and 2008 white people would've found a way to short cut the blacks again and get on top (I'll give you the MLB). White folx like Springsteen, Black folx like James Brown (rip) point blank. You know, it's kinda like Elvis vs. Quincy Jones.
And how tha fuck are you the person to judge what black people can do now versus back then, that's how I know you dont live near our communities... Fuck outta here with that we cant do shit like we did back in tha 50s and 60s you fuckin faggot. MTV and BET have you brainwashed on who the fuck we are, you trippin on an ice pick for that. And then you have the nerve to mention Barack Obama in the bullshit ass un-most-relevant thing you've mentioned in this topic. You cant be fuckin serious. You're right u are a white boy and you wouldnt have the balls to say any of this to a so called "real" nigga face, you would bitchup and keep your opinions to yourself u fuckin homo ass butt fisher ass nigga.
Yo white boy you can keep your Springsteen fetish in ya ass like a dingleberry bcuz you obviously arent culturally sound enough. Go to a Black church sometime, Go to an inner city school in the lunch rooms and music classes and you'll see what the fuck Blues & Beale Street has evolved into. Go to a college/ All this tv and readin all these interviews have got u gassed. and bitch that bubble your in has popped along time ago. New Jack City, Colors, and BITH and a few 2Pac albums cant tell u how it really is, niggaz die ova dumb shit (true) but niggaz mainly die over broken morals. So you can clear that mind frame outcha' brain. I'm done with you/// Springsteen is soft and the E Street Band cant out rock The Back Yard Band.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C70jCTSPPw&feature=related
1) When did your street credibility ever come into question? You can find drugs, sluts, places to rob? Good for you. I am an individualist. I'm Greek-Canadian, and there are lets say 100,000 Greek Canadians in the Toronto area. Do you know how many I represent? 1. And that's how many black people you represent. We can only really speak for ourselves.
2) My main interaction with blacks is Jamaican so maybe I'm wrong to say today's black artists aren't as talented. So I'll say 5 black singers from back then and you can tell me 5 black singers from now more evolved than James Brown, Sam Cooke, David Ruffin, Otis Redding, and Little Richard.
3) "Fuck outta here with that we cant do shit like we did back in tha 50s and 60s you fuckin faggot"? We? As in you are apart of the evolved new art? Can you send me some recordings of yourself. Shit maybe you can outplay Hendrix.
4) I do go to an inner city school twice a week. I teach kids math. We have a pretty crappy music program though.
5) I share the exact same opinions with my black neighbors as I do here with you. I'm not ashamed of my opinions. If you like you can come up to Toronto and listen to me have the same debates. Come on May 7th and I'll even take you with me to the Springsteen show.
6) I'm not that familiar with Chuck Brown. Maybe Bruce did know of him back then. I know he got a long real well with Bob Marley and the Wailers when both bands were just starting out, and a personal music hero of his was Gary US Bonds. All of this doesn't change the fact that I never doubted the venues you claim they play, I merely asked what sold out venues they were.
7) "niggaz die ova dumb shit (true) but niggaz mainly die over broken morals." I know. I've lost quite a few of my oldest friends in the past few years who were either killed by guns or sent to jail because of them.
8) America is mostly white. America is the largest TV market for the NFL,. Second is Europe, which is almost entirely white. That's why most of the viewers are white. Most of the athletes aren't white because blacks are better athletes.
9) When did I say Springsteen videos get a lot of airplay? MTV hasn't showed him any respect since the 80s. I simply said it was absurd to think he had retired since he has been in the news quite a bit this last decade. I mentioned Obama because Obama is very popular now and Bruce was right there with him through most of the election. Of course he's past his prime. I never said otherwise. Martin Scorsese is past his prime but he can skill make decent films. Marlon Brando was past his prime in 1970. The next year he played Vito Corleone. Bruce may never again release another album anywhere near as good as Born to Run, but the albums he does release are good enough for him to stick around if he wants to. The Rising was used as Obama's campaign song and that song was written and recorded in 2002. If Bruce was just some old fogey using his past to stick around in the present then why would they use a new song by him, and not an older one?
10) Elvis and Quincy? Of all the people to compare you pick a 50s rocker with a jazz turned pop producer. You should have used Jackie Wilson. He was great.
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i see i ya'll goin soft on me.
but i aint goin 10 - 1 though all I'm gonna say is that u live in Canada, and if ur not from the States you just wouldnt understand. TV and Radio doesn't show the full spectrum. Hell I aint even from the hood-Hood but once I moved over here (close by, real fuckin close by - 2blocks close by) I still didnt even understand it all until I just adapted and became part of my everyday surroundings and now I can't say I'm no hood nigga but I aint no carlton banks ass nigga either or no yung berg ass nigga either, I've done the dirt most niggaz waz scared to do (and not just for a rep or some shine). Ya'll keep tryna tell me about Bruce Springsteen and give me some history lessons, but like I mentioned in my first post- the man is a legend, I was never doubting his shine or his name (I just think he's living off his name). And Jamaicans dont fuck wit blacks in America like that either, we all cool with each other but there's still a funny feelin in the air when it comes to some. And last I can say we, I've done been thru alot as a black person and an individual, so I deserve the right and I've obtained the knowledge to say we. Just bcuz I'm on an internet forum doesn't mean I don't have my own backround. I'm not one of these young ass kids on here still whining about some bullshit.
And I'm no Hendrix but I'm no William Hung neither. And Go Go music is gonna be the new shit that America falls in love with- you doubt it now but thats the same shit they said about hip hop. Go Go/Funk/Hip Hop go hand in hand with each, practically synonymous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJRgcEREChs
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i refuse to believe you are black
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i refuse to believe you are black
I'ma skull fuck your mother too :yikes: and she'll tell you I'm black :psych:
I'll have the old bitch lookin like :drool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWgkFvUhdkQ
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i see i ya'll goin soft on me.
but i aint goin 10 - 1 though all I'm gonna say is that u live in Canada, and if ur not from the States you just wouldnt understand. TV and Radio doesn't show the full spectrum. Hell I aint even from the hood-Hood but once I moved over here (close by, real fuckin close by - 2blocks close by) I still didnt even understand it all until I just adapted and became part of my everyday surroundings and now I can't say I'm no hood nigga but I aint no carlton banks ass nigga either or no yung berg ass nigga either, I've done the dirt most niggaz waz scared to do (and not just for a rep or some shine). Ya'll keep tryna tell me about Bruce Springsteen and give me some history lessons, but like I mentioned in my first post- the man is a legend, I was never doubting his shine or his name (I just think he's living off his name). And Jamaicans dont fuck wit blacks in America like that either, we all cool with each other but there's still a funny feelin in the air when it comes to some. And last I can say we, I've done been thru alot as a black person and an individual, so I deserve the right and I've obtained the knowledge to say we. Just bcuz I'm on an internet forum doesn't mean I don't have my own backround. I'm not one of these young ass kids on here still whining about some bullshit.
And I'm no Hendrix but I'm no William Hung neither. And Go Go music is gonna be the new shit that America falls in love with- you doubt it now but thats the same shit they said about hip hop. Go Go/Funk/Hip Hop go hand in hand with each, practically synonymous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJRgcEREChs
What the fuck are you talking about going soft? When was I going hard?
Anyway, the Jamaicans here are like 3rd and 4th generation and they act just like the blacks I've seen in NY when I visited. Some of the slang is a little different but most of it is the same. And anyone that is Jamaican immigrant had it a lot harder in Jamaica than US blacks have it. Stop trying to find excuses for me not to "get" it. Shit, I did a lot things in my teens I'm not very proud of and wouldn't do again, and I'm not going to start blabbing about them on the internet. I've moved past my childish years.
I'm not giving you a Bruce history lesson. You keep saying he's living off his name and that's what I'm trying to debate. If the last 4 albums he released; The Rising, Devils and Dust, Magic, and Working on a Dream were released by a new artist they'd still be 4 of the top albums in music this decade. And if a completely new band put on shows like the one saw last October they'd be among the best live acts in Music. He's living of his talent, not his name. Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson are living off their names. Bruce still has a bit of his muse left.
You still have given me no argument disputing my lack of evolution claim.
And have not once made any insult towards Gogo music. I never said it wouldn't blow up. I have not doubted anything.
Ok Jimi Hung, let's hear something.
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I'll say it...outside of a few parts of Maryland, and DC people are not feeling Go Go. Its been around for years and it has not caught on. Past a Amerie or a Jay Z cut, it's safe to say 95% of the population has no idea what Go Go music even is. Sure it sells out 300 person clubs, but that's big time? It's cool not to feel the Boss and have your own opinion, but you act like the average person would rather listen to Go Go over one of the largest and well respected American artists of his generation.
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I'll say it...outside of a few parts of Maryland, and DC people are not feeling Go Go. Its been around for years and it has not caught on. Past a Amerie or a Jay Z cut, it's safe to say 95% of the population has no idea what Go Go music even is. Sure it sells out 300 person clubs, but that's big time? It's cool not to feel the Boss and have your own opinion, but you act like the average person would rather listen to Go Go over one of the largest and well respected American artists of his generation.
And outside of a few Black people, we wouldnt listen to Springsteen so wats your point. I cant debate with people who think GoGo is just some fad or just some local trend when it's been gettin' hot everywhere on the low for a minute. It's safe to say now especially with Wale out here that GoGo is gonna make a huge leap into the mainstream, yeah it's been slow no doubt but its not like 95% (as u say) of people dont like or never heard of GoGo music. I wouldnt expect any of ya'll to understand it bcuz the way you talk exposes your backround (whether you're black or white) and I'm havin' a feeling most of ya'll on here are white kids tucked away in the suburbs and your closest visual of the hood is somewhere on the other side of your town or city (which probably isn't all that hard anyways). But ya'll dont get it and I see. U act like just bcuz Springsteen is so popular that means everybody should bow down and change their decision about him... Where were you white folx (excuse my Greek) at when 2Pac was gettin bashed by the media and then murdered, same thing with Eazy. These people mean just as much to us as Springsteen means to you. Same thing with GoGo music (especially in the DMV). None of ya'll probably listened to the songs I posted, bcuz if you did I'm 120% positive that ya'll wouldn't be tryna shit on it like u r now. But I'm jah done with this board. It's like goin against a prejudice and nyeve congress and expecting some common sense and common ground to come outta this. If you like Dr. Dre & Jimmii Hendrix & John Lennon & James Brown & fuck it even Bruce Springsteen and you cant respect GoGo music or atleast aknowledge the bomb ass unique and original music that comes outta this then maybe your a faggot and I've musta grown outa tha dubb (and thats prolly not a bad thing). Bcuz u have to be young and ignorant and a punk to not understand where I'm comin from and ya'll cant be up on the music scene like that if you still post negative shit about this game (everybody has an opinion, but hate is anotha thing). I aint in my feelinz but if you're telling me JYB or BYB or RE or Chuck cant rock as hard the Bruce & The E Street Band then I'm guessing none of ya'll are really music fans in general in the first place. Bump those songs I put posted up and you'll see that GoGo is no different from Funk Music & Rock Music & Rap Music, matter of fact it's all of that wrapped into 1, dig that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CiKAtx4FdQ&feature=related
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Nobody is talking about the quality of the music though. I'm familiar with a few of Wale songs, and I enjoy them a lot actually. I'm a big indie rock fan myself, and I would never expect or even think that someone like Animal Collective should play in the Super Bowl. These guys do have a recently critically acclaimed album too, so they are getting lots of attention right now. But I can imagine, "Oh and now for the Super Bowl Half Time Show: Animal Collective!" It will be a bunch of ZzzZzzZzz's in the audience.
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Listen, I'm glad you like to drag race into your posts, but I hate to break it to you even black folks aren't all that in to Go Go. I lived in Maryland for a bit, and worked at a large company while I was there. Music was a frequent topic of conversation, and I assure you that Go Go was not liked or even known by a vast majority and no they were not all old white dudes. I have listened to quite a bit of it, and I can appreciate the art. I don't dislike it. But you seem to think that just because you love it, so should the rest of the world. I like that you think it may be the next big thing. Time will tell you may be right, but really take a step back and realize that Bruce has sold more copies of one album than all go go records combined. And if you think go go has been getting hot on the low......it must be on some stealth fighter technology shit then because even though I'm no music expert, you just don't hear it in other areas of the US.
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Listen, I'm glad you like to drag race into your posts, but I hate to break it to you even black folks aren't all that in to Go Go. I lived in Maryland for a bit, and worked at a large company while I was there. Music was a frequent topic of conversation, and I assure you that Go Go was not liked or even known by a vast majority and no they were not all old white dudes. I have listened to quite a bit of it, and I can appreciate the art. I don't dislike it. But you seem to think that just because you love it, so should the rest of the world. I like that you think it may be the next big thing. Time will tell you may be right, but really take a step back and realize that Bruce has sold more copies of one album than all go go records combined. And if you think go go has been getting hot on the low......it must be on some stealth fighter technology shit then because even though I'm no music expert, you just don't hear it in other areas of the US.
Well my opinion doesn't go 4 EVERYBODY but I'm assuming you were talking to old folks (*50 & up*) and squares (you just have to be). Im not just pulling this shit outta my ass either bcuz of how I feel about it. And why do you keep mentioning that Springsteen is bigger than any GoGo Band out there, thats only true bcuz he's white and has been exposed in the public eye waay longer than any GoGo Band has been out there (and just bcuz I've mentioned race doesn't mean there's no truth to it/ How many black folks do u know that fuck wit Toby Keith or Sinead O Connor or Celine Deon or Mo' Rocca the comdedian or those BestWeekEver Bamas?). When GoGo first started to jump off around here Springsteen was already on world tours, I'm not gonna keep biggin' up Bruce in everyone of my topics when cleary I've not hated on that man. I mean what more do you want me to say about GoGo music & Springsteen?? You're right when it comes to popularity (bruce springsteen & some localers in the DMV) but you're wrong when it comes to the overall aspect of what I'm puttin out there. We went from did you like the show to Nelly/Diddy :laugh: to race to this. I'm keepin it 1000 wit you that Springsteen isn't as big of a hit that you think he is with everybody (he's no James Brown or 2Pac for that matter). Yeah black people like Bruce Springsteen (some, and mainly old timers) but as far as the 45 & under club Bruce Springsteen is damn near irrelevant (and how do i know this? bcuz I've traveled around the US and have had many conversations and listened to many different opinions/ military folks - and people hardly mention him on TV on any station whether it's TV1 or VH1). And GoGo is getting hot in alotta places, hell I didn't even know it was until my cuzzin from Jersey told me about the conventions and my ex girl who moved back down to ATL told me how many people were on it down there (if you sell out everyday almost everyweek and the whole venue is 300/500 or more people, that's pretty damn good). True it may be no Hip Hop but it's way more popular than the music score channel on DirecTV music channel. Alot of ya'll dont know about GoGo and I'm not saying everybody is hip to it but facts are facts, this GoGo shit way more popular than you think. Maybe nobody in your neighborhood has heard of it (besides the people who lived in the DMV) but that doesn't mean the fans ain't out there. And to the folk that was talking about Animal Collective, I feel you but thats what the industry and entertainment business needs, a new make over. You know wat I'm saying, it may NEVER be hip to the old white people or the elite older black people (and never will be) but this game needs a complete change in direction- thats whats wrong with it now. And thats all I was saying about Bruce Springsteen. I respect him for who he is and what he's done (and thats obviously some amazing shit) but there also comes a time when that Paradime needs a shift *ASAP* and in my opinion and demographics (and not just representin where I'm from) I think GoGo music should be more exposed than it is. It combines so many different genres of music into one that everything you say is missing in music is all right there. Now I cant listen to GoGo 24/7 but I cant do that with any genre of music. Obviously this HipHop game doesn't have the same sound that it had b4 (even though it was just shitty mixing consoles and re-used samples over and over again by everybody thrown behind 1,2 checka rhymes), GoGo should be that next direction. An MC, Live Band, Original music, and Raw energy. If you fuse rap, rock, jazz/rnb/blues, funk, and maybe a little country and tweek it to have a it's own-own sound then it can be the new Hip Hop (they've only been gettin better with time). GoGo Grunge Rock would be the shit. GoGo Gangsta Rap (BackYard Band) is the shit. You have to see it. If you can't dig it like that then fine, but I find it hard to understand how u can crank a Springsteen record but you can't dumb out to a Chuck Brown record.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QluVmt-DgrU - WHERE YOU AT AMERICAS NEXT BEST DANCE CREW?? ?? ?? :stir: :rock: :cow: :monkey_dance2: :monkey: :banana_rock: :banana_trippin:
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Listen, I'm glad you like to drag race into your posts, but I hate to break it to you even black folks aren't all that in to Go Go. I lived in Maryland for a bit, and worked at a large company while I was there. Music was a frequent topic of conversation, and I assure you that Go Go was not liked or even known by a vast majority and no they were not all old white dudes. I have listened to quite a bit of it, and I can appreciate the art. I don't dislike it. But you seem to think that just because you love it, so should the rest of the world. I like that you think it may be the next big thing. Time will tell you may be right, but really take a step back and realize that Bruce has sold more copies of one album than all go go records combined. And if you think go go has been getting hot on the low......it must be on some stealth fighter technology shit then because even though I'm no music expert, you just don't hear it in other areas of the US.
Well my opinion doesn't go 4 EVERYBODY but I'm assuming you were talking to old folks (*50 & up*) and squares (you just have to be). Im not just pulling this shit outta my ass either bcuz of how I feel about it. And why do you keep mentioning that Springsteen is bigger than any GoGo Band out there, thats only true bcuz he's white and has been exposed in the public eye waay longer than any GoGo Band has been out there (and just bcuz I've mentioned race doesn't mean there's no truth to it/ How many black folks do u know that fuck wit Toby Keith or Sinead O Connor or Celine Deon or Mo' Rocca the comdedian or those BestWeekEver Bamas?). When GoGo first started to jump off around here Springsteen was already on world tours, I'm not gonna keep biggin' up Bruce in everyone of my topics when cleary I've not hated on that man. I mean what more do you want me to say about GoGo music & Springsteen?? You're right when it comes to popularity (bruce springsteen & some localers in the DMV) but you're wrong when it comes to the overall aspect of what I'm puttin out there. We went from did you like the show to Nelly/Diddy :laugh: to race to this. I'm keepin it 1000 wit you that Springsteen isn't as big of a hit that you think he is with everybody (he's no James Brown or 2Pac for that matter). Yeah black people like Bruce Springsteen (some, and mainly old timers) but as far as the 45 & under club Bruce Springsteen is damn near irrelevant (and how do i know this? bcuz I've traveled around the US and have had many conversations and listened to many different opinions/ military folks - and people hardly mention him on TV on any station whether it's TV1 or VH1). And GoGo is getting hot in alotta places, hell I didn't even know it was until my cuzzin from Jersey told me about the conventions and my ex girl who moved back down to ATL told me how many people were on it down there (if you sell out everyday almost everyweek and the whole venue is 300/500 or more people, that's pretty damn good). True it may be no Hip Hop but it's way more popular than the music score channel on DirecTV music channel. Alot of ya'll dont know about GoGo and I'm not saying everybody is hip to it but facts are facts, this GoGo shit way more popular than you think. Maybe nobody in your neighborhood has heard of it (besides the people who lived in the DMV) but that doesn't mean the fans ain't out there. And to the folk that was talking about Animal Collective, I feel you but thats what the industry and entertainment business needs, a new make over. You know wat I'm saying, it may NEVER be hip to the old white people or the elite older black people (and never will be) but this game needs a complete change in direction- thats whats wrong with it now. And thats all I was saying about Bruce Springsteen. I respect him for who he is and what he's done (and thats obviously some amazing shit) but there also comes a time when that Paradime needs a shift *ASAP* and in my opinion and demographics (and not just representin where I'm from) I think GoGo music should be more exposed than it is. It combines so many different genres of music into one that everything you say is missing in music is all right there. Now I cant listen to GoGo 24/7 but I cant do that with any genre of music. Obviously this HipHop game doesn't have the same sound that it had b4 (even though it was just shitty mixing consoles and re-used samples over and over again by everybody thrown behind 1,2 checka rhymes), GoGo should be that next direction. An MC, Live Band, Original music, and Raw energy. If you fuse rap, rock, jazz/rnb/blues, funk, and maybe a little country and tweek it to have a it's own-own sound then it can be the new Hip Hop (they've only been gettin better with time). GoGo Grunge Rock would be the shit. GoGo Gangsta Rap (BackYard Band) is the shit. You have to see it. If you can't dig it like that then fine, but I find it hard to understand how u can crank a Springsteen record but you can't dumb out to a Chuck Brown record.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QluVmt-DgrU - WHERE YOU AT AMERICAS NEXT BEST DANCE CREW?? ?? ?? :stir: :rock: :cow: :monkey_dance2: :monkey: :banana_rock: :banana_trippin:
A lot of acts can do this, doesn't mean they deserve to be playing 50k plus venues
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Listen, I'm glad you like to drag race into your posts, but I hate to break it to you even black folks aren't all that in to Go Go. I lived in Maryland for a bit, and worked at a large company while I was there. Music was a frequent topic of conversation, and I assure you that Go Go was not liked or even known by a vast majority and no they were not all old white dudes. I have listened to quite a bit of it, and I can appreciate the art. I don't dislike it. But you seem to think that just because you love it, so should the rest of the world. I like that you think it may be the next big thing. Time will tell you may be right, but really take a step back and realize that Bruce has sold more copies of one album than all go go records combined. And if you think go go has been getting hot on the low......it must be on some stealth fighter technology shit then because even though I'm no music expert, you just don't hear it in other areas of the US.
Well my opinion doesn't go 4 EVERYBODY but I'm assuming you were talking to old folks (*50 & up*) and squares (you just have to be). Im not just pulling this shit outta my ass either bcuz of how I feel about it. And why do you keep mentioning that Springsteen is bigger than any GoGo Band out there, thats only true bcuz he's white and has been exposed in the public eye waay longer than any GoGo Band has been out there (and just bcuz I've mentioned race doesn't mean there's no truth to it/ How many black folks do u know that fuck wit Toby Keith or Sinead O Connor or Celine Deon or Mo' Rocca the comdedian or those BestWeekEver Bamas?). When GoGo first started to jump off around here Springsteen was already on world tours, I'm not gonna keep biggin' up Bruce in everyone of my topics when cleary I've not hated on that man. I mean what more do you want me to say about GoGo music & Springsteen?? You're right when it comes to popularity (bruce springsteen & some localers in the DMV) but you're wrong when it comes to the overall aspect of what I'm puttin out there. We went from did you like the show to Nelly/Diddy :laugh: to race to this. I'm keepin it 1000 wit you that Springsteen isn't as big of a hit that you think he is with everybody (he's no James Brown or 2Pac for that matter). Yeah black people like Bruce Springsteen (some, and mainly old timers) but as far as the 45 & under club Bruce Springsteen is damn near irrelevant (and how do i know this? bcuz I've traveled around the US and have had many conversations and listened to many different opinions/ military folks - and people hardly mention him on TV on any station whether it's TV1 or VH1). And GoGo is getting hot in alotta places, hell I didn't even know it was until my cuzzin from Jersey told me about the conventions and my ex girl who moved back down to ATL told me how many people were on it down there (if you sell out everyday almost everyweek and the whole venue is 300/500 or more people, that's pretty damn good). True it may be no Hip Hop but it's way more popular than the music score channel on DirecTV music channel. Alot of ya'll dont know about GoGo and I'm not saying everybody is hip to it but facts are facts, this GoGo shit way more popular than you think. Maybe nobody in your neighborhood has heard of it (besides the people who lived in the DMV) but that doesn't mean the fans ain't out there. And to the folk that was talking about Animal Collective, I feel you but thats what the industry and entertainment business needs, a new make over. You know wat I'm saying, it may NEVER be hip to the old white people or the elite older black people (and never will be) but this game needs a complete change in direction- thats whats wrong with it now. And thats all I was saying about Bruce Springsteen. I respect him for who he is and what he's done (and thats obviously some amazing shit) but there also comes a time when that Paradime needs a shift *ASAP* and in my opinion and demographics (and not just representin where I'm from) I think GoGo music should be more exposed than it is. It combines so many different genres of music into one that everything you say is missing in music is all right there. Now I cant listen to GoGo 24/7 but I cant do that with any genre of music. Obviously this HipHop game doesn't have the same sound that it had b4 (even though it was just shitty mixing consoles and re-used samples over and over again by everybody thrown behind 1,2 checka rhymes), GoGo should be that next direction. An MC, Live Band, Original music, and Raw energy. If you fuse rap, rock, jazz/rnb/blues, funk, and maybe a little country and tweek it to have a it's own-own sound then it can be the new Hip Hop (they've only been gettin better with time). GoGo Grunge Rock would be the shit. GoGo Gangsta Rap (BackYard Band) is the shit. You have to see it. If you can't dig it like that then fine, but I find it hard to understand how u can crank a Springsteen record but you can't dumb out to a Chuck Brown record.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QluVmt-DgrU - WHERE YOU AT AMERICAS NEXT BEST DANCE CREW?? ?? ?? :stir: :rock: :cow: :monkey_dance2: :monkey: :banana_rock: :banana_trippin:
A lot of acts can do this, doesn't mean they deserve to be playing 50k plus venues
that may be true with some acts but not Bands like JYB and BYB & RE. RE used to tour with Luda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXr_Y-pg6Go but I guess the GoGo gods still cant pack a house like Springsteen huh? ::) thay was the main event!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw9WGWNjuro&feature=related Cher Chez La Ghost the GoGo "Cher Chez La RE"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvernugC-vw&feature=related
to all my folks thats goin thru some shit crank this up and forget about that dum shit.
Springsteen is a legend but he aint fuckin' wit' my man Smoke on the Congas... NOPE
or Son right here *1st dude*: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnAdxQEbpIQ&NR=1 So Not fuckin wit it
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And last.... the secret recipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdnsmtjoHHs&feature=related
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In his late 50s, Springsteen can still fuck with anyone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifdx-zTn0Ng
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1bhBCRXAGE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PzdAFwPALI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN2_T8yv5x8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF92RVQkUm8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck3wa-VlsZM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1ne3rc3iqc (same beautiful song as the one above but with E Street)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kj_mFDaTm8 (great Jimmy Cliff Song reworked)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp-oDAxx8So (trading vocals and guitars with Tom Morello. Tommy goes to town at the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko4cWAHuZHo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaFvztxP39c (classic)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5wUCjQJOBQ (same classic 30 years prior)
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Look I'll be fair with you. A lot of people (white ;D) love this shit, true but if you ask me it sounds so waay generic and bland. I listened to only the 1st three i'll admit that only bcuz I didnt like the direction of where it was goin'. I can't hate on somebody who has a massive following, I'd look retarded. But if you ask me, even though some people on here dont fuck with GoGo I'd think they'd rather listen to a RawImage album than a Springsteen album anyday. I respect where your coming from but there's alot of people who aren't on the forefront of the music scene that just rock way harder than them. Bruce might be able to crank up tha guitar but he can't fuck wit Chuck Brown or my man Smoke when he on the Congas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZPyKOOOhi0 (nobody in the EStreet Band is crankin like Smoke) You can't deny that this shit just sounds way better, well maybe to you you can have a different opinion on that.
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Look I'll be fair with you. A lot of people (white ;D) love this shit, true but if you ask me it sounds so waay generic and bland. I listened to only the 1st three i'll admit that only bcuz I didnt like the direction of where it was goin'. I can't hate on somebody who has a massive following, I'd look retarded. But if you ask me, even though some people on here dont fuck with GoGo I'd think they'd rather listen to a RawImage album than a Springsteen album anyday. I respect where your coming from but there's alot of people who aren't on the forefront of the music scene that just rock way harder than them. Bruce might be able to crank up tha guitar but he can't fuck wit Chuck Brown or my man Smoke when he on the Congas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZPyKOOOhi0 (nobody in the EStreet Band is crankin like Smoke) You can't deny that this shit just sounds way better, well maybe to you you can have a different opinion on that.
Crank up the guitar? He's playing acoustic on the first three. And they aren't even electric songs. They are pre-rock folk songs. How is that in any way generic? Tell you what, I'll listen to everything you posted, loud on my ear phones, and I'll listen more than just a one time skim through, and I'll report back, I'll probably even like most of it, because I listen to everything. But you should do the same before you criticize. I never once on this thread made a negative comment about any go-go track you mentioned, because I'm not so bloated to dismiss what I haven't fully taken in yet.
I can't deny what sounds way better? That's like saying you can't deny salmon tastes better than steak. Two completely different tastes and some people will like one over the other. Only a fool will try and tell someone that they can't deny one tastes better than the other.
It's like my favorite music may be the kind Bruce plays, but I spend as much time listeningto hard core punk these days (Bad BRains, Black Flag), but my favouriter style of drumming to listen to is this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=141o_jwG7cA
starting at about the 3 minute mark the guy goes on a fucking 3 minute rampage
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Look I'll be fair with you. A lot of people (white ;D) love this shit, true but if you ask me it sounds so waay generic and bland. I listened to only the 1st three i'll admit that only bcuz I didnt like the direction of where it was goin'. I can't hate on somebody who has a massive following, I'd look retarded. But if you ask me, even though some people on here dont fuck with GoGo I'd think they'd rather listen to a RawImage album than a Springsteen album anyday. I respect where your coming from but there's alot of people who aren't on the forefront of the music scene that just rock way harder than them. Bruce might be able to crank up tha guitar but he can't fuck wit Chuck Brown or my man Smoke when he on the Congas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZPyKOOOhi0 (nobody in the EStreet Band is crankin like Smoke) You can't deny that this shit just sounds way better, well maybe to you you can have a different opinion on that.
Crank up the guitar? He's playing acoustic on the first three. And they aren't even electric songs. They are pre-rock folk songs. How is that in any way generic? Tell you what, I'll listen to everything you posted, loud on my ear phones, and I'll listen more than just a one time skim through, and I'll report back, I'll probably even like most of it, because I listen to everything. But you should do the same before you criticize. I never once on this thread made a negative comment about any go-go track you mentioned, because I'm not so bloated to dismiss what I haven't fully taken in yet.
I can't deny what sounds way better? That's like saying you can't deny salmon tastes better than steak. Two completely different tastes and some people will like one over the other. Only a fool will try and tell someone that they can't deny one tastes better than the other.
It's like my favorite music may be the kind Bruce plays, but I spend as much time listeningto hard core punk these days (Bad BRains, Black Flag), but my favouriter style of drumming to listen to is this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=141o_jwG7cA
starting at about the 3 minute mark the guy goes on a fucking 3 minute rampage
So why are talking so hostile? Are you tryna son me or put me on some shit? Make yourself clearer next time bcuz I was surely tryna go on u. Anyways I guess u have a point but I'm still ridin' wit' da locals on this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlTXwHDQL4U&feature=related
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Look I'll be fair with you. A lot of people (white ;D) love this shit, true but if you ask me it sounds so waay generic and bland. I listened to only the 1st three i'll admit that only bcuz I didnt like the direction of where it was goin'. I can't hate on somebody who has a massive following, I'd look retarded. But if you ask me, even though some people on here dont fuck with GoGo I'd think they'd rather listen to a RawImage album than a Springsteen album anyday. I respect where your coming from but there's alot of people who aren't on the forefront of the music scene that just rock way harder than them. Bruce might be able to crank up tha guitar but he can't fuck wit Chuck Brown or my man Smoke when he on the Congas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZPyKOOOhi0 (nobody in the EStreet Band is crankin like Smoke) You can't deny that this shit just sounds way better, well maybe to you you can have a different opinion on that.
Crank up the guitar? He's playing acoustic on the first three. And they aren't even electric songs. They are pre-rock folk songs. How is that in any way generic? Tell you what, I'll listen to everything you posted, loud on my ear phones, and I'll listen more than just a one time skim through, and I'll report back, I'll probably even like most of it, because I listen to everything. But you should do the same before you criticize. I never once on this thread made a negative comment about any go-go track you mentioned, because I'm not so bloated to dismiss what I haven't fully taken in yet.
I can't deny what sounds way better? That's like saying you can't deny salmon tastes better than steak. Two completely different tastes and some people will like one over the other. Only a fool will try and tell someone that they can't deny one tastes better than the other.
It's like my favorite music may be the kind Bruce plays, but I spend as much time listeningto hard core punk these days (Bad BRains, Black Flag), but my favouriter style of drumming to listen to is this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=141o_jwG7cA
starting at about the 3 minute mark the guy goes on a fucking 3 minute rampage
So why are talking so hostile? Are you tryna son me or put me on some shit? Make yourself clearer next time bcuz I was surely tryna go on u. Anyways I guess u have a point but I'm still ridin' wit' da locals on this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlTXwHDQL4U&feature=related
Hostile? I was being hostile?
I was just trying to explain my self to you. I don't bash an artist until I've taken the artist in and begun to understand what that artist or that genre is about. I bash a lot rappers, but my entire teens was consumed with hip hop. I get what it is and what it means. I've come to dislike most of it for a number of reasons but I just don't discredit a rappers sound with out knowing it a bit first.
I love music, and I give everything a solid try before I dismiss it. I've tried techno/house/drum and bass to death. I'll never like it and always think it sucks. But I don't know Go go, so I'll give it a strong whirl in the coming months. If I like it I'll tell you why, and if I don't I'll tell you why.
You don't have to listen to any Springsteen if you don't want to, but I'll never take what you think of his music seriously until you actually sit down with it and digest it for a period of time. That doesn't mean consume yourself with it, and only with it. But I'm just telling you what I feel.
What'd you think of the Buddy Rich clip? Just curious.
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Look I'll be fair with you. A lot of people (white ;D) love this shit, true but if you ask me it sounds so waay generic and bland. I listened to only the 1st three i'll admit that only bcuz I didnt like the direction of where it was goin'. I can't hate on somebody who has a massive following, I'd look retarded. But if you ask me, even though some people on here dont fuck with GoGo I'd think they'd rather listen to a RawImage album than a Springsteen album anyday. I respect where your coming from but there's alot of people who aren't on the forefront of the music scene that just rock way harder than them. Bruce might be able to crank up tha guitar but he can't fuck wit Chuck Brown or my man Smoke when he on the Congas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZPyKOOOhi0 (nobody in the EStreet Band is crankin like Smoke) You can't deny that this shit just sounds way better, well maybe to you you can have a different opinion on that.
Crank up the guitar? He's playing acoustic on the first three. And they aren't even electric songs. They are pre-rock folk songs. How is that in any way generic? Tell you what, I'll listen to everything you posted, loud on my ear phones, and I'll listen more than just a one time skim through, and I'll report back, I'll probably even like most of it, because I listen to everything. But you should do the same before you criticize. I never once on this thread made a negative comment about any go-go track you mentioned, because I'm not so bloated to dismiss what I haven't fully taken in yet.
I can't deny what sounds way better? That's like saying you can't deny salmon tastes better than steak. Two completely different tastes and some people will like one over the other. Only a fool will try and tell someone that they can't deny one tastes better than the other.
It's like my favorite music may be the kind Bruce plays, but I spend as much time listeningto hard core punk these days (Bad BRains, Black Flag), but my favouriter style of drumming to listen to is this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=141o_jwG7cA
starting at about the 3 minute mark the guy goes on a fucking 3 minute rampage
So why are talking so hostile? Are you tryna son me or put me on some shit? Make yourself clearer next time bcuz I was surely tryna go on u. Anyways I guess u have a point but I'm still ridin' wit' da locals on this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlTXwHDQL4U&feature=related
Hostile? I was being hostile?
I was just trying to explain my self to you. I don't bash an artist until I've taken the artist in and begun to understand what that artist or that genre is about. I bash a lot rappers, but my entire teens was consumed with hip hop. I get what it is and what it means. I've come to dislike most of it for a number of reasons but I just don't discredit a rappers sound with out knowing it a bit first.
I love music, and I give everything a solid try before I dismiss it. I've tried techno/house/drum and bass to death. I'll never like it and always think it sucks. But I don't know Go go, so I'll give it a strong whirl in the coming months. If I like it I'll tell you why, and if I don't I'll tell you why.
You don't have to listen to any Springsteen if you don't want to, but I'll never take what you think of his music seriously until you actually sit down with it and digest it for a period of time. That doesn't mean consume yourself with it, and only with it. But I'm just telling you what I feel.
What'd you think of the Buddy Rich clip? Just curious.
LOL I'm done talking to you doggy! Buddy was cool but you can keep the Springsteen lol. Just turn up the GoGo!!
They make other songs sound so much better!
http://www.imeem.com/people/kl_aF6/music/zELTAfO_/junkyard_band_loose_booty/
http://www.imeem.com/mpmoney/music/hQrQroFj/byb_everyone_falls_in_love/
http://www.imeem.com/people/0bU7c/music/38YXXKzN/byb_sick_of_being_lonley/
http://www.imeem.com/people/LgGdWK/music/iwhGSYLq/byb_we_dont_give_a_fuck/
http://www.imeem.com/people/ybqL57/music/iHqcneaU/abm_abm_knock_dat_pussy_out/
http://www.imeem.com/allsportskelvin08/music/46wXk5gN/abm_abmparty_lika_a_rockstar/
http://www.imeem.com/people/U1dDP9r/music/dS_3QWnw/rare_essence_im_a_g/
http://www.imeem.com/legendsofgogo/music/ifEAcpjh/doug_e_fresh_rare_essence_doug_e_fresh_rare_essence/ (even Dougie was down)
http://www.imeem.com/live2love2live/music/A4pqYmxU/rare_essence_no_ordinary_love/ (pussy music :D)
http://www.imeem.com/sexydrew1/music/FmnoyoV8/abm_abm_07_bopper/?rel=1
http://www.imeem.com/chauncey88/music/3Ip1oOBx/rare_essence_the_sweetest_thing/ (booty sex music :D)
http://www.imeem.com/chauncey88/music/aI4OFhlJ/rare_essence_slow_motion/
http://www.imeem.com/jukeboxmusic22/music/2HDMXGAm/chuck_brown_and_the_soul_searchers_if_it_aint_funky/ (old school)
http://www.imeem.com/people/_5ScS/music/sC0izyjI/junkyard_band_sardines/ (old school classic)
http://www.imeem.com/people/qI0QS/music/k3rtO9kS/nexx_level_band_ms_phat_booty_gurl/ (poon tang banger :D)
http://www.imeem.com/people/Hk1eo/music/oFSW_GkJ/reaction_band_camra_phone/ (came out before Game's song)
http://www.imeem.com/jukeboxmusic22/music/WG_k9nQh/chuck_brown_eye_candy/
http://www.imeem.com/nightmare2kl/music/QXZHz1Nr/reaction_band_dora_the_explorer/ (for your children and little siblings) http://www.imeem.com/people/esb2F/music/f9SC0BTE/reaction_band_doraremix/
http://www.imeem.com/people/5tlCfX/music/95DebqHo/reaction_band_get_stupid/ (banger!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z-syqo3HW0 (they fucked up Lil' Wayne on his own track)
So there you have a sample of it all. I'm done. Rare Essence 1, Springsteen 0 :laugh:
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can I just ask you one question Radiotube?
What are your thoughts on the Prophet Muhammed pbuh?
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can I just ask you one question Radiotube?
What are your thoughts on the Prophet Muhammed pbuh?
He was probably one of the coolest muthafuckaz to grace this green earth :pimp:
http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/muhammad.html
http://www.imeem.com/gblacklandova/music/moEqnGji/new_impressions_there_she_go/
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http://www.imeem.com/kooliechrisse1/music/AP5y8ngW/bybbackyard_band_thong_song/ (shitted all over Sisqo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKcfWhmPOCY&feature=related (guaranteed 2 be your gurls favorite ringtone, if she's hood enough ;D)
...the last 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1BNV5N1ASk (the new hip hop, fuck the old shit)
too much of :argue: and not enough of :rock: in this thread. you dont even know me, you shouldn't get all Emo (dc term btw, not cam- for those who know wat i'm talkn about).