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Title: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 20, 2009, 06:06:00 PM
F.A.B.I.D. - Proper Dosage
http://www.youtube.com/v/YURq7yekbkU&hl=en

Da Ranjahz - Insp Her Ation
http://www.youtube.com/v/usdkTWHzGiE&hl=en

Buckshot Lefonque - Music Evolution (DJ Premier Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/v/adQRz1Ixh1g&hl=en

Blahzay Blahzay - Danger (Dj Premier Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/v/nJrjUby9M_A&hl=en

Skyzoo & Torae - Get It Done
http://www.youtube.com/v/pvqjSj8RMsA&hl=en

Better than any Just Blaze or 3-6 beats out there. There is no way you can say Premo is over-rated with joints like these.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 20, 2009, 07:01:56 PM
aite this is gon be a interestin debate
aite if the joints u put up, then just blaze wins this, maybe not easily but he wins based off the muzik u put up. 
3-6
just
premo
all make different muzik for their region and their fans.
but overall i'd say just brings the most heat overall
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Jaydc555 on February 20, 2009, 07:09:07 PM
Waits for radiotube to come into thread
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 20, 2009, 07:12:14 PM
haha dont wait for that fuckin youtube faggott
he thinks 3-6 mafia and lil wayne are better than premo
but then again he lives in the south and dont know shit regardless
i have come to appreciate premo's work
i mean he posts in a westcoast forum, and says that dumb shit bout westcoast muzik bein so original?
da fuck?
you see that post?
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 20, 2009, 07:52:37 PM
aite this is gon be a interestin debate
aite if the joints u put up, then just blaze wins this, maybe not easily but he wins based off the muzik u put up. 
3-6
just
premo
all make different muzik for their region and their fans.
but overall i'd say just brings the most heat overall


Show me some proof as to how Just is better.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 20, 2009, 08:03:52 PM
aite
Just Blaze - The Second Coming

that right there is one of the best tarxx ever made IMO
he made that shit and that became a anthem
it was a universal hit, but all fans was feelin it for the most part
its bangin
thats jus 1
but again dont get it twisted premo is dope
and one of my favorite traxx by premo is
Ras Kass - Golden Child
that right there is one of the dopest traxx by a westcoast rapper but produced by a eastcoast producer
shit is fuckin fire and extremely different from his work
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 20, 2009, 08:11:06 PM
aite
Just Blaze - The Second Coming

that right there is one of the best tarxx ever made IMO
he made that shit and that became a anthem
it was a universal hit, but all fans was feelin it for the most part
its bangin
thats jus 1
but again dont get it twisted premo is dope
and one of my favorite traxx by premo is
Ras Kass - Golden Child
that right there is one of the dopest traxx by a westcoast rapper but produced by a eastcoast producer
shit is fuckin fire and extremely different from his work

That is a nice beat, but that is nowhere near the level of the tracks I posted above. It's seriously ruined by Juelz, needed a better rapper over it.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 20, 2009, 08:15:29 PM
aite lets take this apart
matter of fact IMO that was one of juelz better traxx he has rapped over
but fuck that, take him off, what just made outta that song is amazin to me
now again im not hatin on premo, jus overall I dont think he can or has made the same typa heat as justblaze.
and im not a just blaze supporter in a sense that everything he does is dope
no not at all, jus premo is a different producer, but as many have said (some on here) his muzik isnt different.
and i dont mean that in a bad way, cuz obviously hes in demand decades later and hes looked up to as one of the greatest, some even say the greatest but again
3-6 mafia is too different really to even compare in this, but only some fuckin faggott like youtube would say shit like that
RZA & Dr. Dre >>>>Premo
on that note, Justblaze still has to prove hes one of the greatest





aite
Just Blaze - The Second Coming

that right there is one of the best tarxx ever made IMO
he made that shit and that became a anthem
it was a universal hit, but all fans was feelin it for the most part
its bangin
thats jus 1
but again dont get it twisted premo is dope
and one of my favorite traxx by premo is
Ras Kass - Golden Child
that right there is one of the dopest traxx by a westcoast rapper but produced by a eastcoast producer
shit is fuckin fire and extremely different from his work

That is a nice beat, but that is nowhere near the level of the tracks I posted above. It's seriously ruined by Juelz, needed a better rapper over it.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Rickdeeznutz on February 21, 2009, 02:00:23 AM
Yeah, Dj Premier is on a another level, Just Blaze cant come close. And i like alot of Just Blaze beats, but Dj Premier is in a league of his own.
These are 2 of my favorite Premier beats of all time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxqUHp4YFL4    (Beat is just redicuolous!!!)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-eg71JA3Hg     (Another beat that is just bannanas)
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: --Vance-- on February 21, 2009, 06:11:46 AM
Please, can you upload the second song, I never heard this one before. Crazy beat. Primo is the king on the east coast.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on February 21, 2009, 06:18:55 AM
aite lets take this apart
matter of fact IMO that was one of juelz better traxx he has rapped over
but fuck that, take him off, what just made outta that song is amazin to me
now again im not hatin on premo, jus overall I dont think he can or has made the same typa heat as justblaze.
and im not a just blaze supporter in a sense that everything he does is dope
no not at all, jus premo is a different producer, but as many have said (some on here) his muzik isnt different.
and i dont mean that in a bad way, cuz obviously hes in demand decades later and hes looked up to as one of the greatest, some even say the greatest but again
3-6 mafia is too different really to even compare in this, but only some fuckin faggott like youtube would say shit like that
RZA & Dr. Dre >>>>Premo
on that note, Justblaze still has to prove hes one of the greatest





aite
Just Blaze - The Second Coming

that right there is one of the best tarxx ever made IMO
he made that shit and that became a anthem
it was a universal hit, but all fans was feelin it for the most part
its bangin
thats jus 1
but again dont get it twisted premo is dope
and one of my favorite traxx by premo is
Ras Kass - Golden Child
that right there is one of the dopest traxx by a westcoast rapper but produced by a eastcoast producer
shit is fuckin fire and extremely different from his work

That is a nice beat, but that is nowhere near the level of the tracks I posted above. It's seriously ruined by Juelz, needed a better rapper over it.

Just Blaze is probably the most hands-on producer out there...  Next to R-Les..  He is def in my Top 5, for current producers..

I like how nobody broke down the methods, sound, instruments, equipment...   Go youtube "Premier making a beat" and then tell me why or why he isn't an overrated producer...
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 21, 2009, 06:33:28 AM
Please, can you upload the second song, I never heard this one before. Crazy beat. Primo is the king on the east coast.

http://www.divshare.com/download/6272529-2fc
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Jaydc555 on February 21, 2009, 06:38:24 AM
Beats don't have to be overly complex to be brilliant.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 21, 2009, 06:40:04 AM
Beats don't have to be overly complex to be brilliant.

Thankyou. Couldn't be arsed to explain it myself.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 21, 2009, 06:43:15 AM
He might use the same drums over and over again, but if they aint broke, then there is no need to fix it. Musically, his beats aren't amazing but that is what I like about them.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 21, 2009, 07:36:11 AM
you niggaz iz really lon3ly LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KI4dR1gMxA
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: NillerTheKid on February 21, 2009, 07:54:26 AM
you niggaz iz really lon3ly LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KI4dR1gMxA
love that beat  8)
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: MediumL on February 21, 2009, 08:23:27 AM
like i said in the previous thread i can fully understand why some1 would prefer just blaze over premo. blazes beats are a lot more hyped and dramatic whereas premos are usually minimalistic and dope.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Jaydc555 on February 21, 2009, 08:27:26 AM
I love both producers.I don't really see why they are being compared its apples and oranges
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: --Vance-- on February 21, 2009, 09:09:25 AM
Please, can you upload the second song, I never heard this one before. Crazy beat. Primo is the king on the east coast.

http://www.divshare.com/download/6272529-2fc

PRIZZZOPS
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: NotoriousTDA on February 21, 2009, 11:29:31 AM
The thing i like the most about premier, is that he works with real artists. He hooks up and makes hot shit with the grimiest cats out there.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: jeromechickenbone on February 21, 2009, 11:50:00 AM
Seriously people, comparing Premo w/ Just Blaze or 36 is ridiculous.

Call me when JB or 36 consisently hold down production on multiple classic albums, some of which are considered arguably the greatest Hip Hop albums of all time - Illmatic, Ready To Die, The Sun Rises in the East, Gangstarr, etc etc I could go all fucking day. 

Have those 2 cats even remotely touched that?  No.  So quit with these comparisons. 

And for the record, 36>JB.

Peace
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Al Bundy on February 21, 2009, 03:46:42 PM
The thing i like the most about premier, is that he works with real artists. He hooks up and makes hot shit with the grimiest cats out there.

what's a real artist?
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Jaydc555 on February 21, 2009, 03:54:51 PM
I think by artist he means someone who takes their craft seriously and always brings it lyrically.something like that.for the most part you have to earn a dj premier beat by being nice on the mic.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 21, 2009, 05:50:02 PM
Seriously people, comparing Premo w/ Just Blaze or 36 is ridiculous.

Call me when JB or 36 consisently hold down production on multiple classic albums, some of which are considered arguably the greatest Hip Hop albums of all time - Illmatic, Ready To Die, The Sun Rises in the East, Gangstarr, etc etc I could go all fucking day. 

Have those 2 cats even remotely touched that?  No.  So quit with these comparisons. 

And for the record, 36>JB.

Peace


I could name you a couple CLASSIC triple six mafia albums, but you would never agree with me in a million years so there's no point.  And trust me I'm not the only one who feels this way... WestSide, EastSide, MidWest, and of course DownSouth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxF0p70nv4o
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: NotoriousTDA on February 21, 2009, 05:52:46 PM
The thing i like the most about premier, is that he works with real artists. He hooks up and makes hot shit with the grimiest cats out there.

what's a real artist?

haha you would ask that.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Al Bundy on February 21, 2009, 06:03:31 PM
The thing i like the most about premier, is that he works with real artists. He hooks up and makes hot shit with the grimiest cats out there.

what's a real artist?

haha you would ask that.

you know what i mean. i want to know what your definition of one is
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: west koasting on February 21, 2009, 06:46:06 PM
Premo is ight
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 21, 2009, 08:49:26 PM
Premo is ight


just like every other producer(s) in tha game besides a few honorable mentions.  don't know why cuz felt the need to make this into a topic.  i told em that them niggaz must be lonely, Hip Hop debating is cool 2 do, but some shit just makes u look like a bed wetter lil' ass kid who don't know better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX9pH-L_XYg
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: NotoriousTDA on February 22, 2009, 12:49:43 AM
some dope premo:

Luda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoOBXYn-C4A

Royce
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQNDRrZflBA

Fat Joe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLVD3uMTX7I

AZ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl9NzwTZwXs&feature=related

Rakim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnUCYdSPLT8&feature=PlayList&p=3ADC3D5BD17957D6&playnext=1&index=12

Jay-Z
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3b3XhWHP1M

LOX
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3OKD-zbhGs&feature=PlayList&p=B8E0ED5067340304&playnext=1&index=42

Xzibit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzKwd3T297I

Snoop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNMHiEEkiLw

Biggie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPrHm_fjMoE

Nas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfZ3LEZaL5k

An thats not even scratching the surface... To me, theres no question that premo is the better producer in this discussion
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Hey Ma on February 22, 2009, 01:03:42 AM
This thread is so stupid. premo IS one of the top 5 beat makers for me, however I realize that it's all subjective. It's all opinion.

As for the canadian kid vs al bundy, it's funny that the canuck would try and flip that question on bundy about REAL artists, when bottom line it's just hip hop. It doesn't take much to spit a rhyme whether you're biggie or gucci mane, it just depends on your own style. Chances are all these muli's are of the same intelligence and way of life, just different areas and upbringings. They are all equally un-artistic in their own right.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Al Bundy on February 22, 2009, 01:15:37 AM
This thread is so stupid. premo IS one of the top 5 beat makers for me, however I realize that it's all subjective. It's all opinion.

As for the canadian kid vs al bundy, it's funny that the canuck would try and flip that question on bundy about REAL artists, when bottom line it's just hip hop. It doesn't take much to spit a rhyme whether you're biggie or gucci mane, it just depends on your own style. Chances are all these muli's are of the same intelligence and way of life, just different areas and upbringings. They are all equally un-artistic in their own right.

kids just trying to act cool, that's all. remember; if dilla ain't on your playlist, you don't know shit.

with that being said, fuck 90% of the posters on here.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Hey Ma on February 22, 2009, 01:28:15 AM
This thread is so stupid. premo IS one of the top 5 beat makers for me, however I realize that it's all subjective. It's all opinion.

As for the canadian kid vs al bundy, it's funny that the canuck would try and flip that question on bundy about REAL artists, when bottom line it's just hip hop. It doesn't take much to spit a rhyme whether you're biggie or gucci mane, it just depends on your own style. Chances are all these muli's are of the same intelligence and way of life, just different areas and upbringings. They are all equally un-artistic in their own right.

kids just trying to act cool, that's all. remember; if dilla ain't on your playlist, you don't know shit.

with that being said, fuck 90% of the posters on here.

exactly.

"I only listen to REAL hip hop bro"
-lamest white person cliche ever.

Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Al Bundy on February 22, 2009, 01:32:35 AM
This thread is so stupid. premo IS one of the top 5 beat makers for me, however I realize that it's all subjective. It's all opinion.

As for the canadian kid vs al bundy, it's funny that the canuck would try and flip that question on bundy about REAL artists, when bottom line it's just hip hop. It doesn't take much to spit a rhyme whether you're biggie or gucci mane, it just depends on your own style. Chances are all these muli's are of the same intelligence and way of life, just different areas and upbringings. They are all equally un-artistic in their own right.

kids just trying to act cool, that's all. remember; if dilla ain't on your playlist, you don't know shit.

with that being said, fuck 90% of the posters on here.

exactly.

"I only listen to REAL hip hop bro"
-lamest white person cliche ever.



i still :laugh: when i see his username 
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: 0000000 on February 22, 2009, 06:13:08 AM
NYG'z feat. Lady of Rage, Freddie Foxx & Royce Da 5'9"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f86s4Qml1IY
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 22, 2009, 08:12:45 AM
This thread is so stupid. premo IS one of the top 5 beat makers for me, however I realize that it's all subjective. It's all opinion.

As for the canadian kid vs al bundy, it's funny that the canuck would try and flip that question on bundy about REAL artists, when bottom line it's just hip hop. It doesn't take much to spit a rhyme whether you're biggie or gucci mane, it just depends on your own style. Chances are all these muli's are of the same intelligence and way of life, just different areas and upbringings. They are all equally un-artistic in their own right.

kids just trying to act cool, that's all. remember; if dilla ain't on your playlist, you don't know shit.

with that being said, fuck 90% of the posters on here.

exactly.

"I only listen to REAL hip hop bro"
-lamest white person cliche ever.






LMAO !!!! That's what I've been saying
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toYZbYmrAO4&feature=related
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: GimmeYourShoes on February 22, 2009, 09:11:56 AM

[DJ Premier examples]

Better than any Just Blaze or 3-6 beats out there. There is no way you can say Premo is over-rated with joints like these.
That is a quite bold statement. Did you really sat down and listen through the whole 3-6 discography or was your Premo toxicated mind already made up without ever listening a Paul & Juicy beat??
I agree with you, DJ Premier being one of the better hip-hop producers on this planet and his significance in hip-hop being undeniable.

I don't see how people can pick a side on these two. They may share some similar techniques when making a beat but their style/flavor they put on a beat is
just completely different.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Paul on February 22, 2009, 09:58:58 AM

[DJ Premier examples]

Better than any Just Blaze or 3-6 beats out there. There is no way you can say Premo is over-rated with joints like these.
That is a quite bold statement. Did you really sat down and listen through the whole 3-6 discography or was your Premo toxicated mind already made up without ever listening a Paul & Juicy beat??
I agree with you, DJ Premier being one of the better hip-hop producers on this planet and his significance in hip-hop being undeniable.

I don't see how people can pick a side on these two. They may share some similar techniques when making a beat but their style/flavor they put on a beat is
just completely different.



+1
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: NotoriousTDA on February 22, 2009, 11:34:47 AM
its funny how everyone hops on bundy's dick like he's a god or something when in actuality he brings absolutely nothing to this forum except wack as threads about lil wayne or prodigy.

You're just another white kid thats caught up with the image and lifestyle of gangster rap.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 22, 2009, 11:38:07 AM

[DJ Premier examples]

Better than any Just Blaze or 3-6 beats out there. There is no way you can say Premo is over-rated with joints like these.
That is a quite bold statement. Did you really sat down and listen through the whole 3-6 discography or was your Premo toxicated mind already made up without ever listening a Paul & Juicy beat??
I agree with you, DJ Premier being one of the better hip-hop producers on this planet and his significance in hip-hop being undeniable.

I don't see how people can pick a side on these two. They may share some similar techniques when making a beat but their style/flavor they put on a beat is
just completely different.


Saying that Premier isn't over-rated is a bold statement?

I've listened to enough beats from both the other 2 to say that, and none of them are as catchy to me as a Premo beat.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 22, 2009, 11:51:49 AM
cuz in another thread, the arguement came up of why premo is hyped up so much?
and so did jus blaze as bein one of the best and possibly better
3-6 was never originally in the topic, came in later




I love both producers.I don't really see why they are being compared its apples and oranges
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: GimmeYourShoes on February 22, 2009, 12:42:01 PM

[DJ Premier examples]

Better than any Just Blaze or 3-6 beats out there. There is no way you can say Premo is over-rated with joints like these.
That is a quite bold statement. Did you really sat down and listen through the whole 3-6 discography or was your Premo toxicated mind already made up without ever listening a Paul & Juicy beat??
I agree with you, DJ Premier being one of the better hip-hop producers on this planet and his significance in hip-hop being undeniable.

I don't see how people can pick a side on these two. They may share some similar techniques when making a beat but their style/flavor they put on a beat is
just completely different.


Saying that Premier isn't over-rated is a bold statement?

I've listened to enough beats from both the other 2 to say that, and none of them are as catchy to me as a Premo beat.
By bold statement I referred to what you said about 3-6 beats. I should have put the rest in a separate quote.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: jeromechickenbone on February 22, 2009, 12:53:21 PM
Seriously people, comparing Premo w/ Just Blaze or 36 is ridiculous.

Call me when JB or 36 consisently hold down production on multiple classic albums, some of which are considered arguably the greatest Hip Hop albums of all time - Illmatic, Ready To Die, The Sun Rises in the East, Gangstarr, etc etc I could go all fucking day. 

Have those 2 cats even remotely touched that?  No.  So quit with these comparisons. 

And for the record, 36>JB.

Peace


I could name you a couple CLASSIC triple six mafia albums, but you would never agree with me in a million years so there's no point.  And trust me I'm not the only one who feels this way... WestSide, EastSide, MidWest, and of course DownSouth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxF0p70nv4o

Ok, so do it.  You're telling me that those albums had as profound effect on the state of Hip Hop like the albums I listed?  I love 36, Project Pat, all that shit.  8ball & MJG, UGK have phenomenal albums.  They still aren't touching Preme's catalog.  They're just not on Premo's level. 
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 22, 2009, 12:55:24 PM
yeah its 2 different styles IMO but I can see how some would say premo is better
his production is more complex and complicated which is a good thing




Seriously people, comparing Premo w/ Just Blaze or 36 is ridiculous.

Call me when JB or 36 consisently hold down production on multiple classic albums, some of which are considered arguably the greatest Hip Hop albums of all time - Illmatic, Ready To Die, The Sun Rises in the East, Gangstarr, etc etc I could go all fucking day. 

Have those 2 cats even remotely touched that?  No.  So quit with these comparisons. 

And for the record, 36>JB.

Peace


I could name you a couple CLASSIC triple six mafia albums, but you would never agree with me in a million years so there's no point.  And trust me I'm not the only one who feels this way... WestSide, EastSide, MidWest, and of course DownSouth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxF0p70nv4o

Ok, so do it.  You're telling me that those albums had as profound effect on the state of Hip Hop like the albums I listed?  I love 36, Project Pat, all that shit.  8ball & MJG, UGK have phenomenal albums.  They still aren't touching Preme's catalog.  They're just not on Premo's level. 
Title: I guess he was calling me out when he made this thread
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 22, 2009, 02:50:51 PM
Seriously people, comparing Premo w/ Just Blaze or 36 is ridiculous.

Call me when JB or 36 consisently hold down production on multiple classic albums, some of which are considered arguably the greatest Hip Hop albums of all time - Illmatic, Ready To Die, The Sun Rises in the East, Gangstarr, etc etc I could go all fucking day. 

Have those 2 cats even remotely touched that?  No.  So quit with these comparisons. 

And for the record, 36>JB.

Peace


I could name you a couple CLASSIC triple six mafia albums, but you would never agree with me in a million years so there's no point.  And trust me I'm not the only one who feels this way... WestSide, EastSide, MidWest, and of course DownSouth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxF0p70nv4o

Ok, so do it.  You're telling me that those albums had as profound effect on the state of Hip Hop like the albums I listed?  I love 36, Project Pat, all that shit.  8ball & MJG, UGK have phenomenal albums.  They still aren't touching Preme's catalog.  They're just not on Premo's level. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCqFNQpmdtY&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFKzKBLMnF4&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56PWhp1dUkg&feature=related

You've obviously spent a lot of time listening to the more "positive" side of hip hop than I have http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY9jrMB1X-g&feature=related .  and you're white, so that means we have a different perspective all together (which is cool).  but to say Preme has impacted the game like a god and 3-6 have been playing the back seat students in his classroom is going way overboard.  Paul & Juicy have designed the sound that Hip Hop has been using for almost the past 7 years now, and not to mention all of the underground southern artist before that (no limit, cash money, etc.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bTKLA5-xsY&feature=related .  Preme may have impacted YOUR LIFE in a major way but in Hip Hop in general he can truely only speak for the EastCoast (and that's real and not 2 mention he's from Texas  ::)).  Three 6 Mafia have an epic catalog IMO (they've put out over 30 artist, how can u downplay that).  Preme has done a good job, but if u ask me alot of his beats aren't more complex than a 3-6 beat (and u obviously havent listened to enough to give me a good opinion on that).  They have classic albums like Mystic Stylez, The End, Chapter 2, Ghetty Green, Da Unbreakables, 6661, Mista Don't Play, Layin Tha Smackdown, and countless underground albums that've never seen a store self but have sold anywhere from 25,000-500,000 (atleast) just out of the trunks straight off of word of mouth, from 1991-1995/1996 (literally).  You're tryna knock tha 6 bcuz u don't like them, fair enough- dont really give a fuck if u do.  But let me educate you on this... DJ Paul and DJ Premier are good producers/dj's and both of em have they own style, but truth be told there's only a million other producers better than DJ Premier (who's obviously been livin' off of his loyal fan base these past 10 years).  Now Three 6 Mafia- they've won Oscars they have white folks singin' they songs and using their phrases, they've probably outplayed Preme in the clubs 6 to 1 (anywhere), and as of now (today) they're more popular http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPvAVTtYnfA - and not just with the kids.  Preme is a cool cat and has made some good shit, but it sounds like to me, you've been listening to too many rap politics and not actually listening to the music.  It's all good, like wat u like and dislike watcha dont like- but y r u trying to play Three 6 like they've done absolutly nothing for this game besides make (quite a few) big singles and that's it.  You're young and nieve and you aren't well rounded enough in music appreciation to hold a conversation with me or anyone mature so I can't win with you or anyone else who has a problem/dispute with what I'm laying out (which is facts and not opinions).  If you want DJ-cutted sample records, then I'd go with Pete Rock over Premier anyday- atleast he's changed his sound more than twice in tha past 20 years and made better records, which is something I can't say for Preme- but more luck to Preme though- we need more Blacks in the Hall of Fame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcpRawCWvBo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgFoSP0SbxI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MZnF8ubAIo&feature=related LEGENDARY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxF0p70nv4o&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0You8XQ9L34&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAj8FJNskqM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riifOyp4V6Y&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLuTFMV2iZo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYu8mEOHMF0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hncczOR-L4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaziIVZcu_E&feature=related  You should really do your homework on these niggaz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIW2H-wgC54&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKvzWH9O4as&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YWrwqpsB1g&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBG6wcsVy2c&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlloHzoYFFw&feature=PlayList&p=56FF832E15CEF96C&playnext=1&index=4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZJuCm81USw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1o1jehogQ0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUMjS5wX61c&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PWRnr4yAkU&feature=related Best Drug Song in a few years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9QhkU7Q2b8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWKFEZwi2zs&feature=related

I could go on ALL DAY about the songs that will NEVER play out done by The Hypnotized Camp Posse but you're a youngin who's in love with Preme's work, that's a fight I could never win (you're as bad as a woman scorned).  But here's a few of my personal favorites, there's really a million more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuD2QO8x7lw&feature=related but I don't feel like givin' this shit no more attention than wat I already have (which is alot already).  I'm way more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i75ybQ2onDQ&feature=related to get this money than to argue with a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5cQrzskqW0 like you.  And besides all of the bitches love the Three 6, so that should tell u somethin there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-mSSJRPoVc&feature=related I havent even mentioned Lil' Wyte http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNQ96bqhzro or Frayser Boy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqlKCIfiDHI or T Rock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulALjjrrKCA&feature=related for that matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61MeD89ST8U&feature=related

You can't talk about best albums of Hip Hop of all time and only mention the usual albums (which are sounding older and lamer by the day like illmatic for one, used to be my all time favorite but it started to really get old to me a long time ago.  And i can gaurantee you that The Source magazine gave it that "classic" mystique it has and not it just being classic becuz of the album it's self).  And you can't mention classic Hip Hop and not mention Three 6 Mafia or Project Pat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja91mOenaWs You're discrediting alot of good Hip Hop if you are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzafpudCs6Q&feature=related
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 22, 2009, 02:54:15 PM
haha yeah lolli lolli
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Al Bundy on February 22, 2009, 02:54:44 PM
its funny how everyone hops on bundy's dick like he's a god or something when in actuality he brings absolutely nothing to this forum except wack as threads about lil wayne or prodigy.

You're just another white kid thats caught up with the image and lifestyle of gangster rap.

quit crying because we don't share the same view on rap. neither of us is better when it comes down to it because one listens to canadian hiff-hoff. you come off as a elitist white boy snob and you're bitching because we're calling you out for it.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 22, 2009, 03:00:19 PM
haha al bundy goin in on

C.O.D. OR NUTHIN
Title: ATTENTION: Computer/Headphone Speakers CANT justify this in ALL of it's entirety
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 22, 2009, 03:09:53 PM
I fucks with everybody but beats like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXFQaO7wuqc&feature=related can't be fucked with no matter who you are and where you're from and no matter what your "iconic" status is.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 22, 2009, 03:25:12 PM
haha^^^after listenin to that shit
i had to listen to ras kassy's goldyn child and that kills 3-6
damn bad example
will let everyone else agree,

C.O.D. OR NUTHIN
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 22, 2009, 03:32:02 PM
haha^^^after listenin to that shit
i had to listen to ras kassy's goldyn child and that kills 3-6
damn bad example
will let everyone else agree,

C.O.D. OR NUTHIN

Look hoe, i cant go 5 minutes without you on my dick.  Goddammit let me clean the shit off first
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJDMRuASHtE
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Paul on February 22, 2009, 04:08:56 PM
haha^^^after listenin to that shit
i had to listen to ras kassy's goldyn child and that kills 3-6
damn bad example
will let everyone else agree,

C.O.D. OR NUTHIN

Look hoe, i cant go 5 minutes without you on my dick.  Goddammit let me clean the shit off first
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJDMRuASHtE


classic track 8)
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 22, 2009, 04:12:14 PM
yeah this muffucca want to say 3-6 mafia are better?
dumb fuckin faggott
then again ima sit back and read everyone else shit on him for sayin dumd shit like that




haha^^^after listenin to that shit
i had to listen to ras kassy's goldyn child and that kills 3-6
damn bad example
will let everyone else agree,

C.O.D. OR NUTHIN

Look hoe, i cant go 5 minutes without you on my dick.  Goddammit let me clean the shit off first
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJDMRuASHtE


classic track 8)
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Al Bundy on February 22, 2009, 04:16:08 PM
i can understand why dude thinks three 6 is better than premo, but the way dude carries on about it is what is causing all of this bullshit in the threads.

people need to respect others opinions.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 22, 2009, 05:12:59 PM
i can understand why dude thinks three 6 is better than premo, but the way dude carries on about it is what is causing all of this bullshit in the threads.

people need to respect others opinions.


I respect anybody's opinion.  i just dont care and i dont know u 4 me 2 b hoppin on dick with everything you say (and preme's career).  All I'm doin is just keepin it 100 and folks act like its a problem, like I'm shitting on em or something.  I'm just puttin facts out there, rarely have i used my opinion and that's what's real.  it's just a buncha jack offs tryna get laffs or tryin 2 find somethin 2 do in they spare time.  Three 6 is undisputed (for doin wat they do and did) and Preme has a strong loyal fan base and longevity thru his name & his peers (which is fine by me).  I'm not discreditin nobody or playing favorites, i'm keepin it true.  i think everybody needs to respect wat I have to say bcuz i havent disrespected nobody (my name was called out first lol).  Just Blaze is my nigga and DJ Preme is my dogg... Three 6 Mafia are just the niggaz I respect more, and for good reason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mifqtLsIMU  you can't fuck wit' 'em on they worst
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: NotoriousTDA on February 22, 2009, 11:40:02 PM
its funny how everyone hops on bundy's dick like he's a god or something when in actuality he brings absolutely nothing to this forum except wack as threads about lil wayne or prodigy.

You're just another white kid thats caught up with the image and lifestyle of gangster rap.

quit crying because we don't share the same view on rap. neither of us is better when it comes down to it because one listens to canadian hiff-hoff. you come off as a elitist white boy snob and you're bitching because we're calling you out for it.

i couldnt give a flying fuck about what you listen to. this whole negative atmosphere started when you entered my threads talkin shit. so take your own advice bud.

dont be mad and clown on canadian hip-hop when you cant even name three artists from here without googleing it.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on February 23, 2009, 12:47:27 AM
I love both producers.I don't really see why they are being compared its apples and oranges

same here! both got amazing beats  8)
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Al Bundy on February 23, 2009, 01:36:33 AM
its funny how everyone hops on bundy's dick like he's a god or something when in actuality he brings absolutely nothing to this forum except wack as threads about lil wayne or prodigy.

You're just another white kid thats caught up with the image and lifestyle of gangster rap.

quit crying because we don't share the same view on rap. neither of us is better when it comes down to it because one listens to canadian hiff-hoff. you come off as a elitist white boy snob and you're bitching because we're calling you out for it.

i couldnt give a flying fuck about what you listen to. this whole negative atmosphere started when you entered my threads talkin shit. so take your own advice bud.

dont be mad and clown on canadian hip-hop when you cant even name three artists from here without googleing it.

LOL @ me talking shit. Link me to this.

and without google

drake the r tard kid from degrassi
saukrates
marco polo

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2yum4b7.jpg)
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Rebel on February 23, 2009, 07:39:37 AM
Primo is a Hip Hop legend. One of the greatest HH producers (if not arguably THE greatest). He can easily be considred the best to ever do it (and anyone who can't see why needs to have their ears adjusted and listen to more Hip Hop as well as know it's history).

Personally, he is by far my second favorite/best Hip Hop producer ever, hands down (second only to Dr. Dre... but not by much).

Good thread, btw  8)
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: NotoriousTDA on February 23, 2009, 10:55:33 AM
its funny how everyone hops on bundy's dick like he's a god or something when in actuality he brings absolutely nothing to this forum except wack as threads about lil wayne or prodigy.

You're just another white kid thats caught up with the image and lifestyle of gangster rap.

quit crying because we don't share the same view on rap. neither of us is better when it comes down to it because one listens to canadian hiff-hoff. you come off as a elitist white boy snob and you're bitching because we're calling you out for it.

i couldnt give a flying fuck about what you listen to. this whole negative atmosphere started when you entered my threads talkin shit. so take your own advice bud.

dont be mad and clown on canadian hip-hop when you cant even name three artists from here without googleing it.

LOL @ me talking shit. Link me to this.

and without google

drake the r tard kid from degrassi
saukrates
marco polo

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2yum4b7.jpg)

Marco Polo doesnt rap he produces....

(http://www.hemmy.net/images/interesting/fail28.jpg)
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Al Bundy on February 23, 2009, 11:08:02 AM
its funny how everyone hops on bundy's dick like he's a god or something when in actuality he brings absolutely nothing to this forum except wack as threads about lil wayne or prodigy.

You're just another white kid thats caught up with the image and lifestyle of gangster rap.

quit crying because we don't share the same view on rap. neither of us is better when it comes down to it because one listens to canadian hiff-hoff. you come off as a elitist white boy snob and you're bitching because we're calling you out for it.

i couldnt give a flying fuck about what you listen to. this whole negative atmosphere started when you entered my threads talkin shit. so take your own advice bud.

dont be mad and clown on canadian hip-hop when you cant even name three artists from here without googleing it.

LOL @ me talking shit. Link me to this.

and without google

drake the r tard kid from degrassi
saukrates
marco polo

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2yum4b7.jpg)

Marco Polo doesnt rap he produces....

(http://www.hemmy.net/images/interesting/fail28.jpg)

like i'd know. i never listened to dude. sorry i'm not educated on your countries attempt at rap  ::)
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Paul on February 23, 2009, 11:16:35 AM
its funny how everyone hops on bundy's dick like he's a god or something when in actuality he brings absolutely nothing to this forum except wack as threads about lil wayne or prodigy.

You're just another white kid thats caught up with the image and lifestyle of gangster rap.

quit crying because we don't share the same view on rap. neither of us is better when it comes down to it because one listens to canadian hiff-hoff. you come off as a elitist white boy snob and you're bitching because we're calling you out for it.

i couldnt give a flying fuck about what you listen to. this whole negative atmosphere started when you entered my threads talkin shit. so take your own advice bud.

dont be mad and clown on canadian hip-hop when you cant even name three artists from here without googleing it.

LOL @ me talking shit. Link me to this.

and without google

drake the r tard kid from degrassi
saukrates
marco polo

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2yum4b7.jpg)

Marco Polo doesnt rap he produces....



Isnt producers artists too?
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: NotoriousTDA on February 23, 2009, 11:30:57 AM
its funny how everyone hops on bundy's dick like he's a god or something when in actuality he brings absolutely nothing to this forum except wack as threads about lil wayne or prodigy.

You're just another white kid thats caught up with the image and lifestyle of gangster rap.

quit crying because we don't share the same view on rap. neither of us is better when it comes down to it because one listens to canadian hiff-hoff. you come off as a elitist white boy snob and you're bitching because we're calling you out for it.

i couldnt give a flying fuck about what you listen to. this whole negative atmosphere started when you entered my threads talkin shit. so take your own advice bud.

dont be mad and clown on canadian hip-hop when you cant even name three artists from here without googleing it.

LOL @ me talking shit. Link me to this.

and without google

drake the r tard kid from degrassi
saukrates
marco polo

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2yum4b7.jpg)

Marco Polo doesnt rap he produces....

(http://www.hemmy.net/images/interesting/fail28.jpg)

like i'd know. i never listened to dude. sorry i'm not educated on your countries attempt at rap  ::)

you act like we are from a different planet or something. When in actuality i could drive 2 hours south and be in your shitty country. Our artists have just as much talent but they dont get as much shine as an american artist would. (you wouldnt know cuz your a tool and refuse to listen to anything Canadian.) Partly because record labels here dont give hip-hop artists the push they need to become big. Therefore our artists have to get signed by american record labels and become huge hits (ie Kardinal Offishal)
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Bch on February 23, 2009, 12:57:07 PM
never could get into Premo's 4 bar sample loops all throughout the song like some of you dudes.. i got a few premo joints i rock but to list him as 1 of the best especially these days with all the heavy instrumentation going on in hip hop NAH

pete rock could give premo a good run for his money
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: NotoriousTDA on February 23, 2009, 01:26:55 PM
never could get into Premo's 4 bar sample loops all throughout the song like some of you dudes.. i got a few premo joints i rock but to list him as 1 of the best especially these days with all the heavy instrumentation going on in hip hop NAH

pete rock could give premo a good run for his money

exactly. Pete rock would be a much better competitor in this discussion. Or even Mr. Yancey
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 23, 2009, 03:09:55 PM
Preme could never rock a track like Pete Rock (similar styles but PR got way more swag).  Let alone fuck wit' Paul & Juicy when it comes to simplicity (which is easy as hell 2 do).  Bottom line, if you can't fuck wit' a track like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tq7R1mnSDw then your definition of "real" hip hop or whatever you call it is VERY VERY shallow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibkYQJYCBZw&NR=1  couldn't tell u which track is better between these two
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 23, 2009, 03:18:03 PM
Preme don't make bangers or beats like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5InsH3jxZ68&feature=related or the other two tracks in the post above me
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: NotoriousTDA on February 23, 2009, 03:21:29 PM
^ that was the weakest shit ive ever heard.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 23, 2009, 03:23:39 PM
^ that was the weakest shit ive ever heard.


guaranteed you only listened to the intro and not the whole track.  or it's tha fact ur canadian and u just don't vibe with tha gangsta shit like a nigga do.... real talk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oErrWE2ZdZk&feature=related
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Al Bundy on February 23, 2009, 03:28:52 PM
Preme don't make bangers or beats like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5InsH3jxZ68&feature=related or the other two tracks in the post above me

preme doesn't make songs like those because it ain't his style. do you expect every producer to sound the same?
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: NotoriousTDA on February 23, 2009, 03:31:02 PM
naw i listened to the whole track. The beat doesnt "bang" at all. I could fart over a track and it would sound better in the whip.

if youre going to use 3-6 beats use ones that are good.

Like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOrgo9VYZXQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOrgo9VYZXQ

Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Paul on February 23, 2009, 03:32:49 PM
naw i listened to the whole track. The beat doesnt "bang" at all. I could fart over a track and it would sound better in the whip.

if youre going to use 3-6 beats use ones that are good.

Like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOrgo9VYZXQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOrgo9VYZXQ




props, great track
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 23, 2009, 03:33:28 PM
Preme don't make bangers or beats like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5InsH3jxZ68&feature=related or the other two tracks in the post above me

preme doesn't make songs like those because it ain't his style. do you expect every producer to sound the same?

Fuck no, But that don't mean he can't switch it up.  Excluding the 6 (bcuz they don't), there's alot of producers out there versitylin' but I can only think of Christina's album (and i never heard it truthfully).  I just think if you're a Hip Hop Producer Icon then you shoulda been doin alot more with your music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuG14OslMR8&feature=related  - not an example of wat i mean
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 23, 2009, 03:34:43 PM
naw i listened to the whole track. The beat doesnt "bang" at all. I could fart over a track and it would sound better in the whip.

if youre going to use 3-6 beats use ones that are good.

Like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOrgo9VYZXQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOrgo9VYZXQ




LOL i used that when I made that long ass list of songs in my previous post on here, ya'll should check it out.  I put a gang of good music on there.  page 2


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsFjzhNC6Mo&feature=related  CLASSIC Pat verse at the end
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Paul on February 23, 2009, 03:56:08 PM
naw i listened to the whole track. The beat doesnt "bang" at all. I could fart over a track and it would sound better in the whip.

if youre going to use 3-6 beats use ones that are good.

Like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOrgo9VYZXQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOrgo9VYZXQ




LOL i used that when I made that long ass list of songs in my previous post on here, ya'll should check it out.  I put a gang of good music on there.  page 2


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsFjzhNC6Mo&feature=related  CLASSIC Pat verse at the end


Another banger, Iv got that Murderers & Robbers album signed by Project Pat  8)


Bitch Smackin killa is my Favourite track on it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZKiccbjAIk&feature=related
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Turf Hitta on February 23, 2009, 04:38:50 PM


Better than any Just Blaze or 3-6 beats out there. There is no way you can say Premo is over-rated with joints like these.

I like DJ Premier but youre crazy if you dont think he's overrated.  What does he do thats so special? he samples and loops, uses the same general tempo range on everything he does, uses VERY similar drum patterns on everything, uses VERY similar drum samples on everything he does and he's used the same style for about the same amount of time that Too Short has used his same style. What makes him any better than a guy like Just Blaze (other than your own personal taste)?
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Rickdeeznutz on February 23, 2009, 05:14:12 PM
Does anyone have a best of Dj Premier cd? If not somone need to make a best of Premo, and put 18 of his best work on a cd
That would be some dope shit. Premier is in a league of his own. 8)
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 23, 2009, 05:37:51 PM


Better than any Just Blaze or 3-6 beats out there. There is no way you can say Premo is over-rated with joints like these.

I like DJ Premier but youre crazy if you dont think he's overrated.  What does he do thats so special? he samples and loops, uses the same general tempo range on everything he does, uses VERY similar drum patterns on everything, uses VERY similar drum samples on everything he does and he's used the same style for about the same amount of time that Too Short has used his same style. What makes him any better than a guy like Just Blaze (other than your own personal taste)?

His choice of samples make him that good, then how he loops them. All songs are loops if you listen to them. Like I said earlier, if it aint broke don't fix it. Infact I think he recently changed the decks he uses and he's starting to get a new sound. From 96-07, I admit his style didn't change at all, but recently his sound hasn't been as familiar.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 23, 2009, 05:38:45 PM
Does anyone have a best of Dj Premier cd? If not somone need to make a best of Premo, and put 18 of his best work on a cd
That would be some dope shit. Premier is in a league of his own. 8)

That is gonna be very hard with all the classics he's put out, even the non classics are dope. I'll see what I can do.
Title: You will NEED SOME GOOD SPEAKERS!
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 23, 2009, 06:09:55 PM
Does anyone have a best of Dj Premier cd? If not somone need to make a best of Premo, and put 18 of his best work on a cd
That would be some dope shit. Premier is in a league of his own. 8)

Probably would be some good/classic shit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHJ8jHmQhC8  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwQuCCzt_wI  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReVT3iOPwic&feature=related  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UPaw4lUYMg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kILNalq0yBI&feature=related


But he ain't fuckin' wit' dem Mafia Niggaz  ;D  -   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BjjeBX3b80&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4cEVrutgWY&feature=related  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTnkB8X0k6g  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkpgx0ixx_I&feature=related *official smokin song*  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un7_0DARiF0&feature=related (i hope Dr. Dre make a song like this for Detox)

Or my niggaz Jus' Bleezy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF145-4x2Sw  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLubEYy9bQ8&feature=related  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUaGbQ_sypw  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23bQAFURV5I&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHiWrvGWeUU

Pete Rock....  shits on Premo  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW1Oim0QI5E (battle PR vs. P)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxGjs4nMOUo   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq4GE-TrasA  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KWsXYYQd0I&feature=related  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIquRq3pfi4&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrIhZPAAcjI&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFvOevcyDrg&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reid4ZP9-Q8&feature=related (I wish this song would get notarized as a classic)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdF8wEfP6MQ (Havoc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_0JRXlzReA&feature=related (Havoc)
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Al Bundy on February 23, 2009, 06:40:45 PM
radiotube, will you for the love of fucking god learn how to embed videos? no one is going to click every single one of your links
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 23, 2009, 07:01:25 PM
radiotube, will you for the love of fucking god learn how to embed videos? no one is going to click every single one of your links

lol i dont know how
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Turf Hitta on February 23, 2009, 07:03:52 PM


Better than any Just Blaze or 3-6 beats out there. There is no way you can say Premo is over-rated with joints like these.

I like DJ Premier but youre crazy if you dont think he's overrated.  What does he do thats so special? he samples and loops, uses the same general tempo range on everything he does, uses VERY similar drum patterns on everything, uses VERY similar drum samples on everything he does and he's used the same style for about the same amount of time that Too Short has used his same style. What makes him any better than a guy like Just Blaze (other than your own personal taste)?

His choice of samples make him that good, then how he loops them. All songs are loops if you listen to them. Like I said earlier, if it aint broke don't fix it. Infact I think he recently changed the decks he uses and he's starting to get a new sound. From 96-07, I admit his style didn't change at all, but recently his sound hasn't been as familiar.

lol so because you like his taste in shit to sample, he's great? I mean damn, I like a whole lot of his catalog too, but lets not act like hes really doing anything all that special. he's taking other people's shit and putting his signature drum samples/patterns behind em. Not much different than a million other people.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 23, 2009, 07:26:27 PM


Better than any Just Blaze or 3-6 beats out there. There is no way you can say Premo is over-rated with joints like these.

I like DJ Premier but youre crazy if you dont think he's overrated.  What does he do thats so special? he samples and loops, uses the same general tempo range on everything he does, uses VERY similar drum patterns on everything, uses VERY similar drum samples on everything he does and he's used the same style for about the same amount of time that Too Short has used his same style. What makes him any better than a guy like Just Blaze (other than your own personal taste)?

His choice of samples make him that good, then how he loops them. All songs are loops if you listen to them. Like I said earlier, if it aint broke don't fix it. Infact I think he recently changed the decks he uses and he's starting to get a new sound. From 96-07, I admit his style didn't change at all, but recently his sound hasn't been as familiar.

lol so because you like his taste in shit to sample, he's great? I mean damn, I like a whole lot of his catalog too, but lets not act like hes really doing anything all that special. he's taking other people's shit and putting his signature drum samples/patterns behind em. Not much different than a million other people.

Don't wanna take sides or be a Bennadict Arnold but that's 95% of rap.  It's all about how good you can make it sound.  My vote still goes to the 6 and Pete Rock.  Both are waay more original and better than Preme (but still much love 2 tha DJ, let him take his shine, I just hope he recognizes his peers {in interviews} and not just the usual suspects like Pete Rock and Alchemist)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msRWkP-PT1A 
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 23, 2009, 07:53:25 PM


Better than any Just Blaze or 3-6 beats out there. There is no way you can say Premo is over-rated with joints like these.

I like DJ Premier but youre crazy if you dont think he's overrated.  What does he do thats so special? he samples and loops, uses the same general tempo range on everything he does, uses VERY similar drum patterns on everything, uses VERY similar drum samples on everything he does and he's used the same style for about the same amount of time that Too Short has used his same style. What makes him any better than a guy like Just Blaze (other than your own personal taste)?

His choice of samples make him that good, then how he loops them. All songs are loops if you listen to them. Like I said earlier, if it aint broke don't fix it. Infact I think he recently changed the decks he uses and he's starting to get a new sound. From 96-07, I admit his style didn't change at all, but recently his sound hasn't been as familiar.

lol so because you like his taste in shit to sample, he's great? I mean damn, I like a whole lot of his catalog too, but lets not act like hes really doing anything all that special. he's taking other people's shit and putting his signature drum samples/patterns behind em. Not much different than a million other people.

I am not great at explaining this type of shit. I just love the vibe his beats give out over anyone elses (except Dre).
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 23, 2009, 08:20:25 PM


Better than any Just Blaze or 3-6 beats out there. There is no way you can say Premo is over-rated with joints like these.

I like DJ Premier but youre crazy if you dont think he's overrated.  What does he do thats so special? he samples and loops, uses the same general tempo range on everything he does, uses VERY similar drum patterns on everything, uses VERY similar drum samples on everything he does and he's used the same style for about the same amount of time that Too Short has used his same style. What makes him any better than a guy like Just Blaze (other than your own personal taste)?

His choice of samples make him that good, then how he loops them. All songs are loops if you listen to them. Like I said earlier, if it aint broke don't fix it. Infact I think he recently changed the decks he uses and he's starting to get a new sound. From 96-07, I admit his style didn't change at all, but recently his sound hasn't been as familiar.

lol so because you like his taste in shit to sample, he's great? I mean damn, I like a whole lot of his catalog too, but lets not act like hes really doing anything all that special. he's taking other people's shit and putting his signature drum samples/patterns behind em. Not much different than a million other people.

I am not great at explaining this type of shit. I just love the vibe his beats give out over anyone elses (except Dre).

What about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsT-do1CJQg at 1:27, do u think that is some shit too?  Really I'm just curious
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 23, 2009, 08:39:47 PM


Better than any Just Blaze or 3-6 beats out there. There is no way you can say Premo is over-rated with joints like these.

I like DJ Premier but youre crazy if you dont think he's overrated.  What does he do thats so special? he samples and loops, uses the same general tempo range on everything he does, uses VERY similar drum patterns on everything, uses VERY similar drum samples on everything he does and he's used the same style for about the same amount of time that Too Short has used his same style. What makes him any better than a guy like Just Blaze (other than your own personal taste)?

His choice of samples make him that good, then how he loops them. All songs are loops if you listen to them. Like I said earlier, if it aint broke don't fix it. Infact I think he recently changed the decks he uses and he's starting to get a new sound. From 96-07, I admit his style didn't change at all, but recently his sound hasn't been as familiar.

lol so because you like his taste in shit to sample, he's great? I mean damn, I like a whole lot of his catalog too, but lets not act like hes really doing anything all that special. he's taking other people's shit and putting his signature drum samples/patterns behind em. Not much different than a million other people.

I am not great at explaining this type of shit. I just love the vibe his beats give out over anyone elses (except Dre).

What about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsT-do1CJQg at 1:27, do u think that is some shit too?  Really I'm just curious

I'm not hating on 3-6, I just don't think they are as good as preme.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Rickdeeznutz on February 23, 2009, 09:55:33 PM
Does anyone have a best of Dj Premier cd? If not somone need to make a best of Premo, and put 18 of his best work on a cd
That would be some dope shit. Premier is in a league of his own. 8)

That is gonna be very hard with all the classics he's put out, even the non classics are dope. I'll see what I can do.

That be some great shit, if that comes together! 8)
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Al Bundy on February 23, 2009, 10:49:34 PM
radiotube, will you for the love of fucking god learn how to embed videos? no one is going to click every single one of your links

lol i dont know how

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=104193.0
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Paul on February 24, 2009, 05:31:48 AM
1 of the best instrumentals iv heard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4cEVrutgWY&feature=related
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 24, 2009, 06:02:51 AM
1 of the best instrumentals iv heard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4cEVrutgWY&feature=related

you know wassup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7hK7LzhS6c&feature=related
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Paul on February 24, 2009, 06:07:30 AM
1 of the best instrumentals iv heard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4cEVrutgWY&feature=related

you know wassup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7hK7LzhS6c&feature=related

Suck my but  ;D
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 24, 2009, 06:50:14 AM
1 of the best instrumentals iv heard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4cEVrutgWY&feature=related

you know wassup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7hK7LzhS6c&feature=related

Suck my but  ;D


LoL that was a classic, a timeless classic foreal... no lie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9esPv0sF1pc&feature=related
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 24, 2009, 10:22:35 AM


Better than any Just Blaze or 3-6 beats out there. There is no way you can say Premo is over-rated with joints like these.

I like DJ Premier but youre crazy if you dont think he's overrated.  What does he do thats so special? he samples and loops, uses the same general tempo range on everything he does, uses VERY similar drum patterns on everything, uses VERY similar drum samples on everything he does and he's used the same style for about the same amount of time that Too Short has used his same style. What makes him any better than a guy like Just Blaze (other than your own personal taste)?

His choice of samples make him that good, then how he loops them. All songs are loops if you listen to them. Like I said earlier, if it aint broke don't fix it. Infact I think he recently changed the decks he uses and he's starting to get a new sound. From 96-07, I admit his style didn't change at all, but recently his sound hasn't been as familiar.

lol so because you like his taste in shit to sample, he's great? I mean damn, I like a whole lot of his catalog too, but lets not act like hes really doing anything all that special. he's taking other people's shit and putting his signature drum samples/patterns behind em. Not much different than a million other people.

I am not great at explaining this type of shit. I just love the vibe his beats give out over anyone elses (except Dre).

What about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsT-do1CJQg at 1:27, do u think that is some shit too?  Really I'm just curious

I'm not hating on 3-6, I just don't think they are as good as preme.


BULLSHIT!!! everytime I mentioned 3-6 you alwayz had some coon shit to say about, don't get all wishy washy on me bcuz I proved to you that they can rock a beat harder than Preme can (not 2 discredit Preme).  Just next time, know who you're talking about before you just go off and say that they ain't shit (pretty much that's what you've been callin out).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzEWDw0Pmd0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lckfL0Htc6I&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQwDizWAAXw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw5oidmhyEE   i could on and on with these niggaz but i'll leave that up 2 you
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: NotoriousTDA on February 24, 2009, 11:13:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/=zmPOWQqx1zY&hl=en&fs=1

http://www.youtube.com/v/3BeE1WIhI50&hl=en&fs=1

http://www.youtube.com/v/qwMpN3taga4&hl=en&fs=1

http://www.youtube.com/v/3QgbR1cAtZY&hl=en&fs=1

http://www.youtube.com/v/YR2qdz2ge2w&hl=en&fs=1

http://www.youtube.com/v/HGRS1uL8z9Q&hl=en&fs=1

http://www.youtube.com/v/GT4TbteEapo&hl=en&fs=1
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 24, 2009, 01:00:09 PM
You pretty much just proved my point about Three 6 being more creative production wise and Preme being waaaay too simple (to be considered one of the greatest).  That Reks shit was hot (i can't fake) but he shoulda atleast changed the pattern, it's a str8 loop thru tha whole song until the hook where he puts in a couple scratches.  I can't fade it tho, and I won't but if you really wanna be honest, Preme don't really have shit on Paul/J if u want my honest opinion.  I'm sure Preme got better records than the shit u put out but if that's what you consider his hot shit, u either don't have a good ear 4 music or u must have a really good excuse.  HCP over Preme anyday.


- time 2 switch it up bcuz obviously my team just won.  there's really nothing ya'll've put out there or I heard that would've atleast gave me a second thought (i love all types of hip hop equally).  Preme being one of the best to me is like Kurupt being one of the best to do it.  Some niggaz got a legacy, but it's not really a legacy if u kno wat i mean.


http://www.imeem.com/popmusic19/music/bsznMR0C/tru_tru_s_explicit/
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: NotoriousTDA on February 24, 2009, 01:06:10 PM
3-6 mafia will never be on the status of premo musically. Ask any hip-hop head or any rap artist for their opinion, im positive they'll say preme.

So what if his beats really arent that complex? Does that really matter? No. Its how they sound!! And therefore premo's sound is way more thrilling then any beat 3-6 has ever created.

Game. Set. And match. Radio tube loses.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 24, 2009, 01:11:41 PM
3-6 mafia will never be on the status of premo musically. Ask any hip-hop head or any rap artist for their opinion, im positive they'll say preme.

So what if his beats really arent that complex? Does that really matter? No. Its how they sound!! And therefore premo's sound is way more thrilling then any beat 3-6 has ever created.

Game. Set. And match. Radio tube loses.


you're seriously in denial.  you're not official, your not even from the US so how can you ask a hip hop head and i swear 2 u i'm the biggest rap stan alive.  I think u'r one of those people who nutted in they pants when Nas dropped hip hop is dead.  but seriously dude, wat u say is so contradictory of what you're trying to prove, but i don't wanna change your mind, just keep givin us niggaz your & your mama's money and I'll be str8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwuA4GlCeEU
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: NotoriousTDA on February 24, 2009, 01:14:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/3sADEt7m_-s

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/JXCo_lR3Pp0

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/xyLtGA0YtJA

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/m-o3WNbs5Ck

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/NM4Rph7eeP4

The beats are hot. Tight instruments are used. And the lyrics are off the hook. PLUS THERE'S SCRATCHING!!!!!! AN ELEMENT ON HIP-HOP THAT 3-6 HAS NEVER USED!
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 24, 2009, 01:17:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/3sADEt7m_-s

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/JXCo_lR3Pp0

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/xyLtGA0YtJA

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/m-o3WNbs5Ck

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/NM4Rph7eeP4

The beats are hot. Tight instruments are used. And the lyrics are off the hook. PLUS THERE'S SCRATCHING!!!!!! AN ELEMENT ON HIP-HOP THAT 3-6 HAS NEVER USED!



Now you're just being an ass.  Damn near every track I posted had them scratching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBhEz5hzVBs  just like this 1  And Gangstarr doesn't appeal to me, so you'll have 2 try harder
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: NotoriousTDA on February 24, 2009, 01:20:00 PM
3-6 mafia will never be on the status of premo musically. Ask any hip-hop head or any rap artist for their opinion, im positive they'll say preme.

So what if his beats really arent that complex? Does that really matter? No. Its how they sound!! And therefore premo's sound is way more thrilling then any beat 3-6 has ever created.

Game. Set. And match. Radio tube loses.


you're seriously in denial.  you're not official, your not even from the US so how can you ask a hip hop head and i swear 2 u i'm the biggest rap stan alive.  I think u'r one of those people who nutted in they pants when Nas dropped hip hop is dead.  but seriously dude, wat u say is so contradictory of what you're trying to prove, but i don't wanna change your mind, just keep givin us niggaz your & your mama's money and I'll be str8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwuA4GlCeEU

hip-hop started in the east. look at a map you knucklehead. Maestro Fresh Wes was going gold before 3-6 was even on the hip-hop scene. So do your research homie, canada's been on the scene just as long. Ignorant faggots like yourself make me chuckle.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 24, 2009, 01:23:42 PM
I can't argue with a Bama from Canada about HipHop/Rap... you don't even know wassup so here's a record I dedicate to you and any1 else who feels like they're Right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Szl_JyCUQ&feature=PlayList&p=C49DA43EADEAFC2F&index=0&playnext=1


And I guess Maestro Fresh (LMAO) wasn't all that fresh, bcuz i've never heard of him- even if he did go gold he probably still wasn't even that hot.  dogg im done with you, fuck your opinion you dont even know me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c3ZvK69f8Q
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 24, 2009, 01:25:57 PM
I'm mad this shit turned into 5 pages of two or three people's denial about Preme being the greatest.  I think we can all agree on that.
http://community.allhiphop.com/go/thread/view/12461/13760481/Did_the_Internet_Kill_Hip_Hop
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: NotoriousTDA on February 24, 2009, 01:28:41 PM
I can't argue with a Bama from Canada about HipHop/Rap... you don't even know wassup so here's a record I dedicate to you and any1 else who feels like they're Right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Szl_JyCUQ&feature=PlayList&p=C49DA43EADEAFC2F&index=0&playnext=1


And I guess Maestro Fresh (LMAO) wasn't all that fresh, bcuz i've never heard of him- even if he did go gold he probably still wasn't even that hot.  dogg im done with you, fuck your opinion you dont even know me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c3ZvK69f8Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/Pzull7scV2Y

Obviously you havent heard of it. All you listen to is 3-6 mafia all day.

Like How old are you 12?  THIS SHITS CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 24, 2009, 01:34:46 PM
I can't argue with a Bama from Canada about HipHop/Rap... you don't even know wassup so here's a record I dedicate to you and any1 else who feels like they're Right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Szl_JyCUQ&feature=PlayList&p=C49DA43EADEAFC2F&index=0&playnext=1


And I guess Maestro Fresh (LMAO) wasn't all that fresh, bcuz i've never heard of him- even if he did go gold he probably still wasn't even that hot.  dogg im done with you, fuck your opinion you dont even know me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c3ZvK69f8Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/Pzull7scV2Y

Obviously you havent heard of it. All you listen to is 3-6 mafia all day.

Like How old are you 12?  THIS SHITS CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I could only be 12 talking some grown man shit like this (riiight).   but anyways you're white and you consider "real" hip hop (as u like 2 claim) music by socalled conscience rappers and backpack mc's.  that's not what "real" shit is to me.  real shit is shit i can vibe to and feel that makes me wana do something.  all that electro retro hip hop is cool but it's way past it's time and it should just stay where it's at.  i can't help u if u don't like Three 6 or anybody who is Southern that raps.  It's like arguing with an acid junky.  Have your opinion and keep it, just don't come at me all crazy like Preme is someone I should bow down to or hold higher respect to, when I can easily and have easily do what he's done (musically) and find 100 better producers... Mannie Fresh??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsANbNz0W_c
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 24, 2009, 01:40:24 PM
You want some real shit?  If you can't relate to this shit right here then you can't understand where I'm comin' from and what is that real shit.   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrtVu3xrFJg  and no i'm not from California
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: NotoriousTDA on February 24, 2009, 01:42:17 PM
thats cool man I can repsect your opinion. But as i recall you were the one jumping into these threads claiming 3-6 is god and all that jazz. What you could of easily done is just made your own thread about 3-6 and that would of been fine.

To say i have hate for southern mc's is ridiculous because i dont even compare mc's to where they came from. Its about what they are saying on the mic tand how they are saying it hat affects my opinion.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 24, 2009, 01:49:43 PM
thats cool man I can repsect your opinion. But as i recall you were the one jumping into these threads claiming 3-6 is god and all that jazz. What you could of easily done is just made your own thread about 3-6 and that would of been fine.

To say i have hate for southern mc's is ridiculous because i dont even compare mc's to where they came from. Its about what they are saying on the mic tand how they are saying it hat affects my opinion.


You're bullshitting me, my name was called out 1st and I just came thru with some real shit and muthafuckaz thought they could get some glory and it didn't happen.  U were 1 of them.  3-6 is just some niggaz I look up 2 and respect, doesn't mean I don't respect anybody that's made it (1 hit wonder or Legend).  They make real music to me, it's nothing but Raw energy and power in audio.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIa-0VmsFxo is another example of what's good to me and what's really real music... 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMA0UIg2Oi0 is what I love, Preme doesn't make shit sound this good or any other canadian rapper out there.  I just speak on what's real, not abuncha gas somewhere I read and decided I agree'd with.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 24, 2009, 01:58:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5WWRiGT4w8
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 24, 2009, 02:05:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOm_a1606y0  THIS IS REAL MUSIC, PUT THAT OTHER SHIT UNDER THA BUS!  *no disrespect to any MC*
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Al Bundy on February 24, 2009, 04:32:38 PM
Have your opinion and keep it, just don't come at me all crazy like Preme is someone I should bow down to or hold higher respect to, when I can easily and have easily do what he's done (musically) and find 100 better producers...

you can easily recreate the classics that he's done over the past 20 years.. i'd like to see that. sounds more like you're blowing shit out your ass now.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Rick McCrank on February 24, 2009, 04:37:29 PM
Have your opinion and keep it, just don't come at me all crazy like Preme is someone I should bow down to or hold higher respect to, when I can easily and have easily do what he's done (musically) and find 100 better producers...

wow

why don't you do it then?  big hip hop expert

if it's so easy to be a legend and do what he does, why are you at home posting on the internet?

the ignorance is overwhelming...
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 24, 2009, 06:46:44 PM


Better than any Just Blaze or 3-6 beats out there. There is no way you can say Premo is over-rated with joints like these.

I like DJ Premier but youre crazy if you dont think he's overrated.  What does he do thats so special? he samples and loops, uses the same general tempo range on everything he does, uses VERY similar drum patterns on everything, uses VERY similar drum samples on everything he does and he's used the same style for about the same amount of time that Too Short has used his same style. What makes him any better than a guy like Just Blaze (other than your own personal taste)?

His choice of samples make him that good, then how he loops them. All songs are loops if you listen to them. Like I said earlier, if it aint broke don't fix it. Infact I think he recently changed the decks he uses and he's starting to get a new sound. From 96-07, I admit his style didn't change at all, but recently his sound hasn't been as familiar.

lol so because you like his taste in shit to sample, he's great? I mean damn, I like a whole lot of his catalog too, but lets not act like hes really doing anything all that special. he's taking other people's shit and putting his signature drum samples/patterns behind em. Not much different than a million other people.

I am not great at explaining this type of shit. I just love the vibe his beats give out over anyone elses (except Dre).

What about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsT-do1CJQg at 1:27, do u think that is some shit too?  Really I'm just curious

I'm not hating on 3-6, I just don't think they are as good as preme.


BULLSHIT!!! everytime I mentioned 3-6 you alwayz had some coon shit to say about, don't get all wishy washy on me bcuz I proved to you that they can rock a beat harder than Preme can (not 2 discredit Preme).  Just next time, know who you're talking about before you just go off and say that they ain't shit (pretty much that's what you've been callin out).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzEWDw0Pmd0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lckfL0Htc6I&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQwDizWAAXw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw5oidmhyEE   i could on and on with these niggaz but i'll leave that up 2 you


Find me one quote where I've said they are shit. "Better than any Just Blaze or 3-6 beats out there" was what I said, not that they are shit. The only person you've proved to that they can rock a beat harder is to yourself.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 24, 2009, 07:33:12 PM
See the problem is ya'll blog too much and like the internet beef.  without that you're day is shit.  see when i said i can recreate classics I meant i can EASILY take a simple chop of a song and apply it to some EASILY made drum patterns (here's an example of what I've done that's unfinished i should add http://www.zshare.net/audio/55835397eb72bdac/).  see, unlike most if not all of u I actually make music, so I understand what it's like being an artist and somewhat a person in that position.  alot of ya'll are caught up in the mystique of black folkx and black culture which truely indeed handicaps you're reasoning and logic on what it is and what it ain't (especially music, look at how the labels work).  see it's way so easy 2 make a so called classic record like ya'll claim Premo makes, it's literally too easy (check my zshare).  it's kinda like, if you can't make a record like that you shouldent even be talking about Rap records foreal, bcuz if you can't do that how can you criticize the next person who does (good or bad, on both ends).  If ya'll don't comprehend this right here, ya'll can suck my dick foreal bcuz if u dont git it, let me give it 2 ya raw (with this zshare and my previous posts, that's official)


And Supa you always talk shit, so wtf are you talking about.  anytime anybody disagrees with you u dum out  *dont respond bcuz u know i'm right*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM-C4cCA2CM&feature=related
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 24, 2009, 07:51:16 PM
See the problem is ya'll blog too much and like the internet beef.  without that you're day is shit.  see when i said i can recreate classics I meant i can EASILY take a simple chop of a song and apply it to some EASILY made drum patterns (here's an example of what I've done that's unfinished i should add http://www.zshare.net/audio/55835397eb72bdac/).  see, unlike most if not all of u I actually make music, so I understand what it's like being an artist and somewhat a person in that position.  alot of ya'll are caught up in the mystique of black folkx and black culture which truely indeed handicaps you're reasoning and logic on what it is and what it ain't (especially music, look at how the labels work).  see it's way so easy 2 make a so called classic record like ya'll claim Premo makes, it's literally too easy (check my zshare).  it's kinda like, if you can't make a record like that you shouldent even be talking about Rap records foreal, bcuz if you can't do that how can you criticize the next person who does (good or bad, on both ends).  If ya'll don't comprehend this right here, ya'll can suck my dick foreal bcuz if u dont git it, let me give it 2 ya raw (with this zshare and my previous posts, that's official)


And Supa you always talk shit, so wtf are you talking about.  anytime anybody disagrees with you u dum out  *dont respond bcuz u know i'm right*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM-C4cCA2CM&feature=related

Nice one. You've just proved you can't make beats for shit when claiming you can. And I'm the one who talks shit.  ???
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 24, 2009, 07:54:46 PM
See the problem is ya'll blog too much and like the internet beef.  without that you're day is shit.  see when i said i can recreate classics I meant i can EASILY take a simple chop of a song and apply it to some EASILY made drum patterns (here's an example of what I've done that's unfinished i should add http://www.zshare.net/audio/55835397eb72bdac/).  see, unlike most if not all of u I actually make music, so I understand what it's like being an artist and somewhat a person in that position.  alot of ya'll are caught up in the mystique of black folkx and black culture which truely indeed handicaps you're reasoning and logic on what it is and what it ain't (especially music, look at how the labels work).  see it's way so easy 2 make a so called classic record like ya'll claim Premo makes, it's literally too easy (check my zshare).  it's kinda like, if you can't make a record like that you shouldent even be talking about Rap records foreal, bcuz if you can't do that how can you criticize the next person who does (good or bad, on both ends).  If ya'll don't comprehend this right here, ya'll can suck my dick foreal bcuz if u dont git it, let me give it 2 ya raw (with this zshare and my previous posts, that's official)


And Supa you always talk shit, so wtf are you talking about.  anytime anybody disagrees with you u dum out  *dont respond bcuz u know i'm right*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM-C4cCA2CM&feature=related

Nice one. You've just proved you can't make beats for shit when claiming you can. And I'm the one who talks shit.  ???


you're always right.  how can i argue with a god like u http://www.zshare.net/audio/5612892274434595/
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 24, 2009, 07:59:56 PM
See the problem is ya'll blog too much and like the internet beef.  without that you're day is shit.  see when i said i can recreate classics I meant i can EASILY take a simple chop of a song and apply it to some EASILY made drum patterns (here's an example of what I've done that's unfinished i should add http://www.zshare.net/audio/55835397eb72bdac/).  see, unlike most if not all of u I actually make music, so I understand what it's like being an artist and somewhat a person in that position.  alot of ya'll are caught up in the mystique of black folkx and black culture which truely indeed handicaps you're reasoning and logic on what it is and what it ain't (especially music, look at how the labels work).  see it's way so easy 2 make a so called classic record like ya'll claim Premo makes, it's literally too easy (check my zshare).  it's kinda like, if you can't make a record like that you shouldent even be talking about Rap records foreal, bcuz if you can't do that how can you criticize the next person who does (good or bad, on both ends).  If ya'll don't comprehend this right here, ya'll can suck my dick foreal bcuz if u dont git it, let me give it 2 ya raw (with this zshare and my previous posts, that's official)


And Supa you always talk shit, so wtf are you talking about.  anytime anybody disagrees with you u dum out  *dont respond bcuz u know i'm right*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM-C4cCA2CM&feature=related

Nice one. You've just proved you can't make beats for shit when claiming you can. And I'm the one who talks shit.  ???


you're always right.  how can i argue with a god like u http://www.zshare.net/audio/5612892274434595/

At last, you've finnally admitted it. i knew you'd come through.  :P
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Rick McCrank on February 24, 2009, 11:47:13 PM
oh my god you're so good at making beats
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: INGlewood4Life on February 25, 2009, 01:46:36 AM
Tha Truth 8)
Title: Re: I guess he was calling me out when he made this thread
Post by: jeromechickenbone on February 25, 2009, 12:53:39 PM
Seriously people, comparing Premo w/ Just Blaze or 36 is ridiculous.

Call me when JB or 36 consisently hold down production on multiple classic albums, some of which are considered arguably the greatest Hip Hop albums of all time - Illmatic, Ready To Die, The Sun Rises in the East, Gangstarr, etc etc I could go all fucking day. 

Have those 2 cats even remotely touched that?  No.  So quit with these comparisons. 

And for the record, 36>JB.

Peace


I could name you a couple CLASSIC triple six mafia albums, but you would never agree with me in a million years so there's no point.  And trust me I'm not the only one who feels this way... WestSide, EastSide, MidWest, and of course DownSouth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxF0p70nv4o

Ok, so do it.  You're telling me that those albums had as profound effect on the state of Hip Hop like the albums I listed?  I love 36, Project Pat, all that shit.  8ball & MJG, UGK have phenomenal albums.  They still aren't touching Preme's catalog.  They're just not on Premo's level. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCqFNQpmdtY&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFKzKBLMnF4&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56PWhp1dUkg&feature=related

You've obviously spent a lot of time listening to the more "positive" side of hip hop than I have http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY9jrMB1X-g&feature=related .  and you're white, so that means we have a different perspective all together (which is cool).  but to say Preme has impacted the game like a god and 3-6 have been playing the back seat students in his classroom is going way overboard.  Paul & Juicy have designed the sound that Hip Hop has been using for almost the past 7 years now, and not to mention all of the underground southern artist before that (no limit, cash money, etc.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bTKLA5-xsY&feature=related .  Preme may have impacted YOUR LIFE in a major way but in Hip Hop in general he can truely only speak for the EastCoast (and that's real and not 2 mention he's from Texas  ::)).  Three 6 Mafia have an epic catalog IMO (they've put out over 30 artist, how can u downplay that).  Preme has done a good job, but if u ask me alot of his beats aren't more complex than a 3-6 beat (and u obviously havent listened to enough to give me a good opinion on that).  They have classic albums like Mystic Stylez, The End, Chapter 2, Ghetty Green, Da Unbreakables, 6661, Mista Don't Play, Layin Tha Smackdown, and countless underground albums that've never seen a store self but have sold anywhere from 25,000-500,000 (atleast) just out of the trunks straight off of word of mouth, from 1991-1995/1996 (literally).  You're tryna knock tha 6 bcuz u don't like them, fair enough- dont really give a fuck if u do.  But let me educate you on this... DJ Paul and DJ Premier are good producers/dj's and both of em have they own style, but truth be told there's only a million other producers better than DJ Premier (who's obviously been livin' off of his loyal fan base these past 10 years).  Now Three 6 Mafia- they've won Oscars they have white folks singin' they songs and using their phrases, they've probably outplayed Preme in the clubs 6 to 1 (anywhere), and as of now (today) they're more popular http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPvAVTtYnfA - and not just with the kids.  Preme is a cool cat and has made some good shit, but it sounds like to me, you've been listening to too many rap politics and not actually listening to the music.  It's all good, like wat u like and dislike watcha dont like- but y r u trying to play Three 6 like they've done absolutly nothing for this game besides make (quite a few) big singles and that's it.  You're young and nieve and you aren't well rounded enough in music appreciation to hold a conversation with me or anyone mature so I can't win with you or anyone else who has a problem/dispute with what I'm laying out (which is facts and not opinions).  If you want DJ-cutted sample records, then I'd go with Pete Rock over Premier anyday- atleast he's changed his sound more than twice in tha past 20 years and made better records, which is something I can't say for Preme- but more luck to Preme though- we need more Blacks in the Hall of Fame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcpRawCWvBo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgFoSP0SbxI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MZnF8ubAIo&feature=related LEGENDARY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxF0p70nv4o&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0You8XQ9L34&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAj8FJNskqM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riifOyp4V6Y&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLuTFMV2iZo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYu8mEOHMF0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hncczOR-L4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaziIVZcu_E&feature=related  You should really do your homework on these niggaz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIW2H-wgC54&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKvzWH9O4as&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YWrwqpsB1g&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBG6wcsVy2c&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlloHzoYFFw&feature=PlayList&p=56FF832E15CEF96C&playnext=1&index=4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZJuCm81USw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1o1jehogQ0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUMjS5wX61c&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PWRnr4yAkU&feature=related Best Drug Song in a few years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9QhkU7Q2b8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWKFEZwi2zs&feature=related

I could go on ALL DAY about the songs that will NEVER play out done by The Hypnotized Camp Posse but you're a youngin who's in love with Preme's work, that's a fight I could never win (you're as bad as a woman scorned).  But here's a few of my personal favorites, there's really a million more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuD2QO8x7lw&feature=related but I don't feel like givin' this shit no more attention than wat I already have (which is alot already).  I'm way more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i75ybQ2onDQ&feature=related to get this money than to argue with a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5cQrzskqW0 like you.  And besides all of the bitches love the Three 6, so that should tell u somethin there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-mSSJRPoVc&feature=related I havent even mentioned Lil' Wyte http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNQ96bqhzro or Frayser Boy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqlKCIfiDHI or T Rock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulALjjrrKCA&feature=related for that matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61MeD89ST8U&feature=related

You can't talk about best albums of Hip Hop of all time and only mention the usual albums (which are sounding older and lamer by the day like illmatic for one, used to be my all time favorite but it started to really get old to me a long time ago.  And i can gaurantee you that The Source magazine gave it that "classic" mystique it has and not it just being classic becuz of the album it's self).  And you can't mention classic Hip Hop and not mention Three 6 Mafia or Project Pat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja91mOenaWs You're discrediting alot of good Hip Hop if you are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzafpudCs6Q&feature=related

First, you're way over exaggerating acting like I'm saying 36 ain't shit -- they are mad talented NO DOUBT. Second, you have no idea what my ethnicity is.  Making generalizations like that only propagate racism and hate bruh.  So leave that shit out of the discussion. Third, your posts are very difficult to read.  I couldn't make it to the end because I started getting nausea.  Going forward, you'll have to clean that raggedy shit up if you want me to continue to respond.  But then again, you're black and black people aren't educated so it's no surprise you have difficulty expressing yourself effectively.  (and just so we're clear, that was purely sarcasm to reflect your ignorance back at you)

Having said that, you're delusional if you think they've had a bigger impact on the game than Preme.  I'm not on dudes nuts, don't know him.  Please show me where I made the claim that he was the annointed one or some shit.  You got me confused bruh.  The fact is, sure 36 might well be Gods regionally and what not.  Like E-40 is to the bay.  Both get mad respect from anybody that knows what their talking about, but outside of their loop and region they're not as highly regarded and haven't had the impact of Premier. 

If you polled 100 heads from all over the US and asked them to compile a top 50 hip hop albums of all time, you honestly believe 36 would be all over that list?  The fact remains that Premier's name will be abundant on that list. 

You kinda sound mad.  Do you dislike any album that doesn't have a pen & pixel cover?

Peace.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: 2euce 7even on February 25, 2009, 01:30:54 PM
ta make da long story short,
dj premier is to east coast what dr.dre´s to west coast.
nuff said.

psycho.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Jaydc555 on February 25, 2009, 02:11:50 PM
Yeah I mean 3 6 mafia are talented producers.but as for rhyming their shit is so basic and boring and repetitive.and like guy said I don't think any would have a single 3 6 mafia album in their top 100.you say they've shaped the music that is today?well how surprising is it that hip hop is considered dead and the worst its ever been?mainly because of the south.not saying the south is All bad but let's face it a lot of it is garbage that won't be remembered.do you seriously think that 50 years from now people will care about 3 6 mafia?they won't believe me.what they've done is great but they are a regional group and that's all.illmatic will always be one of the best hip hop albums ever created and your just downright crazy if you think a 3 6 mafia album is better
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Primo on February 25, 2009, 02:18:05 PM
Yo that beat you posted was a loop playing over and over again. What a joke. For real I can find 100 internet producers that sound similar to 3-6.
Title: Having Bass in your music mean's alot
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 25, 2009, 04:01:44 PM
Three 6 created a whole genre of hip hop (crunk), Preme did his thang with a few Big artist up north but outside of that loop up there, he really hasn't done much from what I've seen (not counting overseas).  i'm in the perfect spot to know how far his popularity is on the East (maryland).  i see ya'll are big Preme fans/advocates and all you're going to do is fight me to tha end about who's better (which is cool) but I'm telling you trust me, if I asked 200 people they'd probably forget about Preme and that's tha truth (not all 200 of course but alot).  he may be big in your circle of friends wherever you're at but over here he's not (maryland/dc/va/ i can't speak on del) and that's real.  Preme had his run in tha 90's but since 00' his name has barely been brought up, yeah of course at hip hop conventions/award ceremonies (outside of Pete Rock & Kanye West who else would you talk about - as far as "conciseness" is concerned).  take my word for it, his name don't ring bells like that, maybe ya'll don't see it but I do. Most people who like Preme's work, they're either white suburban constituents (no lie, it's the truth - even the chill white boys will play a 3-6 record b4 a Common record), 40+, or just into a softer side of rap.  When the cars go by and you here rap it's always more so of the south than the same old Eastcoast "classic" artist none of ya'll seem to shuttup about.  that's why everytime we hear a hip hop is dead argument it never commands our attention bcuz that shit is so irrelevant and really 4 tha birds (hip hop condasuer or fly by nighter)... young or old as long as u can dance/smoke/vibe 2 it then everything is all good, no matter who it's done by and what it sounds like (we don't discriminate and judge).  u could be bumpin tha newest ''snap'' track and as long as it bangs (really bangs) then it's all good (i'm serious).  now my last statement on this shit is, just bcuz u feel genuinely that Preme's better than have your opinion (if people around u feel the same way then let em), but as far as I'm concerned and what I've seen- Preme doesn't even come close 2 a Three 6 record, they're waaaay more popular in this region (let alone the south and the westcoast).  the numbers don't lie between sold out concerts and play.  I can't convince you 3 and I won't, and if u can't understand what I'm writing it makes it all the more impossible.  face it, that whole "real" mc hip hop shit doesn't apply 4 a majority of the people (numbers don't lie) i agree the game could be better, but what do u want.  more music that'll make u sit there and think hard as shit all day and put u to sleep or music that'll make u jump up get buck.  i look at it like this, Gangstarr is computer music (sit at home and listen to it on your pc/laptop) and three 6 is more of party/car music (shit u just ride around bumpin all day).  ya'll should do some more history on them boys, you'd be surprised at how they came up and what's real ... it's not abuncha hype like most people would think.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07rGt1-K1CA - tru story


Title: I don't speak as a fan, only as a lover of hip hop
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 25, 2009, 04:52:52 PM
Yeah I mean 3 6 mafia are talented producers.but as for rhyming their shit is so basic and boring and repetitive.and like guy said I don't think any would have a single 3 6 mafia album in their top 100.you say they've shaped the music that is today?well how surprising is it that hip hop is considered dead and the worst its ever been?mainly because of the south.not saying the south is All bad but let's face it a lot of it is garbage that won't be remembered.do you seriously think that 50 years from now people will care about 3 6 mafia?they won't believe me.what they've done is great but they are a regional group and that's all.illmatic will always be one of the best hip hop albums ever created and your just downright crazy if you think a 3 6 mafia album is better


that's so far from the truth.  nobody had a problem with Southern music until Nas said something and that's a fact.  Illmatic is cool but enough about Illmatic, if I wana take 9 CLASSIC tracks and put em on one album i can take Aquemini or Tha DoggFather or some other random ass album with more than 9 songs and make it a classic (Tha Massacre, Thug Motivation 101, Late Registration, Lynch By Inch, Buck The World, Urban Legend, etc.)... please stop dickryding.  Like watchu like but now u sound like a grandpa talking about 60's music when u do that.  Reasonable Doubt and all of those other NY albums are great, but wat about Cali classics, wat about Georgia/Florida classics.  That whole perception of Illmatic being one of the best albums in history is really just a myth.  and The south didn't kill hip hop, it was never dead, it was just a bomb ass marketing ploy by Nas 2 sell some cd's... real talk (stop being so impressionable).  If the 6 didn't do wat I'm proving they did then I wouldn't speak on it but they're the Rock Superstars of hip hop and that's real... every record you hear someone chanting in is a rendition of an old three 6 mafia record.  and truth be told, more southern dance classics will be remembered... why?  bcuz it's dance music and when's the last time u heard some old school party not playing the "electric slide".  Them niggaz is far from regional... i think u'r simply not giving them a listen bcuz it's not ur style, but to say that they pretty much aren't shit outside of Memphis is like saying Stevie Wonder isn't blind or chicken doesn't taste like chicken.  You can only name a few considered classics by Preme but everybody doesn't feel the same way outside of NY and the UK.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F6tkwd2Aqg - 1991 (that says alot)
Title: Regional???? What are you smoking... (grammies, nationwide, trendsetters,etc)
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 25, 2009, 05:16:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tq7R1mnSDw >>>>> anything by Preme anyday (that's just my opinion).  hip hop birthed in the East, went to school in the West, and grew up in the South http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIMEDUld4U8&feature=related , and now it's finding it's way to the MidWest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTT_ThUAxxk&feature=related
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Jaydc555 on February 26, 2009, 05:35:58 AM
Its pretty obvious your the one being stubborn and thick headed about it.illmatic isn't a myth just go listen to the album.3 6 mafia will be remembered the same way lil jon is remembered.maybe in your make believe world they are what you think they are.ask any professional music journalist in hip hop and they would probably laugh their ass off at your claims.people still play fucking Mc hammer u can't touch this that doesn't make it classic.3 6 is club music nothing More nothing less.they are like a summer movie with no plot.you shut your brain off as soon as it comes on.which might explain why your so dumb.you listen to them too much and its obviously rotted your brain a bit.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Turf Hitta on February 26, 2009, 01:25:15 PM


Better than any Just Blaze or 3-6 beats out there. There is no way you can say Premo is over-rated with joints like these.

I like DJ Premier but youre crazy if you dont think he's overrated.  What does he do thats so special? he samples and loops, uses the same general tempo range on everything he does, uses VERY similar drum patterns on everything, uses VERY similar drum samples on everything he does and he's used the same style for about the same amount of time that Too Short has used his same style. What makes him any better than a guy like Just Blaze (other than your own personal taste)?

His choice of samples make him that good, then how he loops them. All songs are loops if you listen to them. Like I said earlier, if it aint broke don't fix it. Infact I think he recently changed the decks he uses and he's starting to get a new sound. From 96-07, I admit his style didn't change at all, but recently his sound hasn't been as familiar.

lol so because you like his taste in shit to sample, he's great? I mean damn, I like a whole lot of his catalog too, but lets not act like hes really doing anything all that special. he's taking other people's shit and putting his signature drum samples/patterns behind em. Not much different than a million other people.

I am not great at explaining this type of shit. I just love the vibe his beats give out over anyone elses (except Dre).

well thats fine, I like a lot of his shit but I just don't kid myself and act like he is any more talented than anyone else in terms of musical ability. Anybody with a sense of rhythm can sample and loop.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 26, 2009, 08:22:49 PM


Better than any Just Blaze or 3-6 beats out there. There is no way you can say Premo is over-rated with joints like these.

I like DJ Premier but youre crazy if you dont think he's overrated.  What does he do thats so special? he samples and loops, uses the same general tempo range on everything he does, uses VERY similar drum patterns on everything, uses VERY similar drum samples on everything he does and he's used the same style for about the same amount of time that Too Short has used his same style. What makes him any better than a guy like Just Blaze (other than your own personal taste)?

His choice of samples make him that good, then how he loops them. All songs are loops if you listen to them. Like I said earlier, if it aint broke don't fix it. Infact I think he recently changed the decks he uses and he's starting to get a new sound. From 96-07, I admit his style didn't change at all, but recently his sound hasn't been as familiar.

lol so because you like his taste in shit to sample, he's great? I mean damn, I like a whole lot of his catalog too, but lets not act like hes really doing anything all that special. he's taking other people's shit and putting his signature drum samples/patterns behind em. Not much different than a million other people.

I am not great at explaining this type of shit. I just love the vibe his beats give out over anyone elses (except Dre).

well thats fine, I like a lot of his shit but I just don't kid myself and act like he is any more talented than anyone else in terms of musical ability. Anybody with a sense of rhythm can sample and loop.

you're 1000 percent right, it's not the same thing as making an rnb instrumental or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5ZDtV28UKg and not just bcuz it's dr. dre/khalil
just look how eazy it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ01xRc6J7s&feature=related  - stop getting so gassed becuz he's YOUR favorite producer, there's nothing magical or unique about his production.  and i don't wanna sound like a hater but there's a million other producers who can do wat he do better- EASY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8wwVwCUaXQ and the Crack A Bottle remake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ja0qUbIz8s
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Paul on February 27, 2009, 06:56:11 AM
Yeah I mean 3 6 mafia are talented producers.but as for rhyming their shit is so basic and boring and repetitive.and like guy said I don't think any would have a single 3 6 mafia album in their top 100.you say they've shaped the music that is today?well how surprising is it that hip hop is considered dead and the worst its ever been?mainly because of the south.not saying the south is All bad but let's face it a lot of it is garbage that won't be remembered.do you seriously think that 50 years from now people will care about 3 6 mafia?they won't believe me.what they've done is great but they are a regional group and that's all.illmatic will always be one of the best hip hop albums ever created and your just downright crazy if you think a 3 6 mafia album is better

Three 6 have done alot for hip hop, first hip hop artist to win a grammy, first rap artists to go platinum in memphis, 2 or 3 classic south albums,

This is a disagreement thats goin nowhere,

Its all about opinions, so no1 can say "I you think Juicy J and DJ Paul are better than Preme then your crazy and dont know hip hop" cause thats wrong

2 different styles,


Personally i prefer three 6's production, Does that mean i have bad taste in hip hop??
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 27, 2009, 07:25:20 AM
Yeah I mean 3 6 mafia are talented producers.but as for rhyming their shit is so basic and boring and repetitive.and like guy said I don't think any would have a single 3 6 mafia album in their top 100.you say they've shaped the music that is today?well how surprising is it that hip hop is considered dead and the worst its ever been?mainly because of the south.not saying the south is All bad but let's face it a lot of it is garbage that won't be remembered.do you seriously think that 50 years from now people will care about 3 6 mafia?they won't believe me.what they've done is great but they are a regional group and that's all.illmatic will always be one of the best hip hop albums ever created and your just downright crazy if you think a 3 6 mafia album is better

Three 6 have done alot for hip hop, first hip hop artist to win a grammy, first rap artists to go platinum in memphis, 2 or 3 classic south albums,

This is a disagreement thats goin nowhere,

Its all about opinions, so no1 can say "I you think Juicy J and DJ Paul are better than Preme then your crazy and dont know hip hop" cause thats wrong

2 different styles,


Personally i prefer three 6's production, Does that mean i have bad taste in hip hop??

Not really, both of em are sample heavy and use dj'ing techniecs when it comes to their production.  Three 6 has more instrumentation in their music vs. Preme's basic beat (kick, clap, hi hat, sample, minimal bass) <--- and that's it.  that's why they're better, but like who u like- i know if we're having a conversation about who's more talented then you would'nt have a choice but to agree that the 6 is better.  why..... it's like comparing Dr. Dre & Jermaine Dupri, both of em have classics and consistant records but at the end of the day who puts more into their music and who makes it sound better... Dr. Dre.  of course everybody wouldn't agree with that analigy but if u asked everybody if they liked Bush - some people would still say he was a great President...  Bottom line, sonically Three 6 is more advanced- there's no way around that.  Preme doesn't rhyme so u can't use the lyrical ability but if u ask me Juicy J and Lord Infamous are some very unique MC's which puts them in a league of their own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTKXflPq2fU
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Paul on February 27, 2009, 07:31:10 AM
Yeah I mean 3 6 mafia are talented producers.but as for rhyming their shit is so basic and boring and repetitive.and like guy said I don't think any would have a single 3 6 mafia album in their top 100.you say they've shaped the music that is today?well how surprising is it that hip hop is considered dead and the worst its ever been?mainly because of the south.not saying the south is All bad but let's face it a lot of it is garbage that won't be remembered.do you seriously think that 50 years from now people will care about 3 6 mafia?they won't believe me.what they've done is great but they are a regional group and that's all.illmatic will always be one of the best hip hop albums ever created and your just downright crazy if you think a 3 6 mafia album is better

Three 6 have done alot for hip hop, first hip hop artist to win a grammy, first rap artists to go platinum in memphis, 2 or 3 classic south albums,

This is a disagreement thats goin nowhere,

Its all about opinions, so no1 can say "I you think Juicy J and DJ Paul are better than Preme then your crazy and dont know hip hop" cause thats wrong

2 different styles,


Personally i prefer three 6's production, Does that mean i have bad taste in hip hop??

Not really, both of em are sample heavy and use dj'ing techniecs when it comes to their production.  Three 6 has more instrumentation in their music vs. Preme's basic beat (kick, clap, hi hat, sample, minimal bass) <--- and that's it.  that's why they're better, but like who u like- i know if we're having a conversation about who's more talented then you would'nt have a choice but to agree that the 6 is better.  why..... it's like comparing Dr. Dre & Jermaine Dupri, both of em have classics and consistant records but at the end of the day who puts more into their music and who makes it sound better... Dr. Dre.  of course everybody wouldn't agree with that analigy but if u asked everybody if they liked Bush - some people would still say he was a great President...  Bottom line, sonically Three 6 is more advanced- there's no way around that.  Preme doesn't rhyme so u can't use the lyrical ability but if u ask me Juicy J and Lord Infamous are some very unique MC's which puts them in a league of their own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTKXflPq2fU

I meant as in Premes is more upbeat/feel good in the sample whereas three 6(mainly earlier stuff) is dark, evil sort of stuff. Imo juicy and Paul have more to give in terms of a wide range of productions, but no doubt both three 6 and premo have made classics
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 27, 2009, 07:41:53 AM
Yeah I mean 3 6 mafia are talented producers.but as for rhyming their shit is so basic and boring and repetitive.and like guy said I don't think any would have a single 3 6 mafia album in their top 100.you say they've shaped the music that is today?well how surprising is it that hip hop is considered dead and the worst its ever been?mainly because of the south.not saying the south is All bad but let's face it a lot of it is garbage that won't be remembered.do you seriously think that 50 years from now people will care about 3 6 mafia?they won't believe me.what they've done is great but they are a regional group and that's all.illmatic will always be one of the best hip hop albums ever created and your just downright crazy if you think a 3 6 mafia album is better

Three 6 have done alot for hip hop, first hip hop artist to win a grammy, first rap artists to go platinum in memphis, 2 or 3 classic south albums,

This is a disagreement thats goin nowhere,

Its all about opinions, so no1 can say "I you think Juicy J and DJ Paul are better than Preme then your crazy and dont know hip hop" cause thats wrong

2 different styles,


Personally i prefer three 6's production, Does that mean i have bad taste in hip hop??

Not really, both of em are sample heavy and use dj'ing techniecs when it comes to their production.  Three 6 has more instrumentation in their music vs. Preme's basic beat (kick, clap, hi hat, sample, minimal bass) <--- and that's it.  that's why they're better, but like who u like- i know if we're having a conversation about who's more talented then you would'nt have a choice but to agree that the 6 is better.  why..... it's like comparing Dr. Dre & Jermaine Dupri, both of em have classics and consistant records but at the end of the day who puts more into their music and who makes it sound better... Dr. Dre.  of course everybody wouldn't agree with that analigy but if u asked everybody if they liked Bush - some people would still say he was a great President...  Bottom line, sonically Three 6 is more advanced- there's no way around that.  Preme doesn't rhyme so u can't use the lyrical ability but if u ask me Juicy J and Lord Infamous are some very unique MC's which puts them in a league of their own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTKXflPq2fU

I meant as in Premes is more upbeat/feel good in the sample whereas three 6(mainly earlier stuff) is dark, evil sort of stuff. Imo juicy and Paul have more to give in terms of a wide range of productions, but no doubt both three 6 and premo have made classics


True shit, but i don't understand how u could say Three 6 isn't more upbeat. 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2KKo58fE4c - it's nothing to make a beat
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 27, 2009, 08:05:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwB5S-c3vrY&feature=related  LMAO!
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Paul on February 27, 2009, 08:23:54 AM
Yeah I mean 3 6 mafia are talented producers.but as for rhyming their shit is so basic and boring and repetitive.and like guy said I don't think any would have a single 3 6 mafia album in their top 100.you say they've shaped the music that is today?well how surprising is it that hip hop is considered dead and the worst its ever been?mainly because of the south.not saying the south is All bad but let's face it a lot of it is garbage that won't be remembered.do you seriously think that 50 years from now people will care about 3 6 mafia?they won't believe me.what they've done is great but they are a regional group and that's all.illmatic will always be one of the best hip hop albums ever created and your just downright crazy if you think a 3 6 mafia album is better

Three 6 have done alot for hip hop, first hip hop artist to win a grammy, first rap artists to go platinum in memphis, 2 or 3 classic south albums,

This is a disagreement thats goin nowhere,

Its all about opinions, so no1 can say "I you think Juicy J and DJ Paul are better than Preme then your crazy and dont know hip hop" cause thats wrong

2 different styles,


Personally i prefer three 6's production, Does that mean i have bad taste in hip hop??

Not really, both of em are sample heavy and use dj'ing techniecs when it comes to their production.  Three 6 has more instrumentation in their music vs. Preme's basic beat (kick, clap, hi hat, sample, minimal bass) <--- and that's it.  that's why they're better, but like who u like- i know if we're having a conversation about who's more talented then you would'nt have a choice but to agree that the 6 is better.  why..... it's like comparing Dr. Dre & Jermaine Dupri, both of em have classics and consistant records but at the end of the day who puts more into their music and who makes it sound better... Dr. Dre.  of course everybody wouldn't agree with that analigy but if u asked everybody if they liked Bush - some people would still say he was a great President...  Bottom line, sonically Three 6 is more advanced- there's no way around that.  Preme doesn't rhyme so u can't use the lyrical ability but if u ask me Juicy J and Lord Infamous are some very unique MC's which puts them in a league of their own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTKXflPq2fU

I meant as in Premes is more upbeat/feel good in the sample whereas three 6(mainly earlier stuff) is dark, evil sort of stuff. Imo juicy and Paul have more to give in terms of a wide range of productions, but no doubt both three 6 and premo have made classics


True shit, but i don't understand how u could say Three 6 isn't more upbeat. 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2KKo58fE4c - it's nothing to make a beat


I meant premo is like feel good sort of stuff/soul and jazz orientated samples

Juicy and Paul can do it to , (Poppin my collar, New Project pat single etc)
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 27, 2009, 08:53:20 AM
Yeah I mean 3 6 mafia are talented producers.but as for rhyming their shit is so basic and boring and repetitive.and like guy said I don't think any would have a single 3 6 mafia album in their top 100.you say they've shaped the music that is today?well how surprising is it that hip hop is considered dead and the worst its ever been?mainly because of the south.not saying the south is All bad but let's face it a lot of it is garbage that won't be remembered.do you seriously think that 50 years from now people will care about 3 6 mafia?they won't believe me.what they've done is great but they are a regional group and that's all.illmatic will always be one of the best hip hop albums ever created and your just downright crazy if you think a 3 6 mafia album is better

Three 6 have done alot for hip hop, first hip hop artist to win a grammy, first rap artists to go platinum in memphis, 2 or 3 classic south albums,

This is a disagreement thats goin nowhere,

Its all about opinions, so no1 can say "I you think Juicy J and DJ Paul are better than Preme then your crazy and dont know hip hop" cause thats wrong

2 different styles,


Personally i prefer three 6's production, Does that mean i have bad taste in hip hop??

Not really, both of em are sample heavy and use dj'ing techniecs when it comes to their production.  Three 6 has more instrumentation in their music vs. Preme's basic beat (kick, clap, hi hat, sample, minimal bass) <--- and that's it.  that's why they're better, but like who u like- i know if we're having a conversation about who's more talented then you would'nt have a choice but to agree that the 6 is better.  why..... it's like comparing Dr. Dre & Jermaine Dupri, both of em have classics and consistant records but at the end of the day who puts more into their music and who makes it sound better... Dr. Dre.  of course everybody wouldn't agree with that analigy but if u asked everybody if they liked Bush - some people would still say he was a great President...  Bottom line, sonically Three 6 is more advanced- there's no way around that.  Preme doesn't rhyme so u can't use the lyrical ability but if u ask me Juicy J and Lord Infamous are some very unique MC's which puts them in a league of their own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTKXflPq2fU

I meant as in Premes is more upbeat/feel good in the sample whereas three 6(mainly earlier stuff) is dark, evil sort of stuff. Imo juicy and Paul have more to give in terms of a wide range of productions, but no doubt both three 6 and premo have made classics


True shit, but i don't understand how u could say Three 6 isn't more upbeat. 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2KKo58fE4c - it's nothing to make a beat


I meant premo is like feel good sort of stuff/soul and jazz orientated samples

Juicy and Paul can do it to , (Poppin my collar, New Project pat single etc)


tru
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Jaydc555 on February 27, 2009, 01:53:56 PM
They were not the first hip hop artists to win a Grammy.I'm sure you meant Oscar.and sorry again but eminem was the first one to do that
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Paul on February 27, 2009, 01:57:32 PM
They were not the first hip hop artists to win a Grammy.I'm sure you meant Oscar.and sorry again but eminem was the first one to do that

Sorry yeah thats what i meant

And they were the first black music group to win an oscar and the first hip hop artists to perform at the acadamy awards
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 27, 2009, 02:10:36 PM
yeah but
im not sayin 3-6 are wack but when you do what the industry wants you will have more spotlight
otherwise
some wit mad talent like premo would have many awards, more than what he has
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Paul on February 27, 2009, 02:20:20 PM
yeah but
im not sayin 3-6 are wack but when you do what the industry wants you will have more spotlight
otherwise
some wit mad talent like premo would have many awards, more than what he has

I honestly dont think they were expectin to win an oscar with a track called "Its hard out here for a pimp", tracks bangin too
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 27, 2009, 02:46:05 PM
nah what im sayin is
lil wayne wins 11 awards, does that mean hes dope?
no, hes fucked by the industry
he has to do what they want, he isnt his own boss

someone like rza, or premo who do what they want, not the other way around. 
different levels of respect
3-6 same shit as lil wayne
they make lil girl muzik, at recently have been
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Paul on February 27, 2009, 02:52:30 PM
nah what im sayin is
lil wayne wins 11 awards, does that mean hes dope?
no, hes fucked by the industry
he has to do what they want, he isnt his own boss



Three 6 won an oscar, Lil wayne wins shitty awards


3-6 same shit as lil wayne
they make lil girl muzik, at recently have been

Your an idiot  ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGF_S3Nua5c

first track of the new album, Girl Music??
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 27, 2009, 02:55:56 PM
nah but that was aite, one of their better traxx
but i was talkin bout that lolli shit they was doin
but still premo>>>>>3-6 haha
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Paul on February 27, 2009, 03:00:25 PM
nah but that was aite, one of their better traxx
but i was talkin bout that lolli shit they was doin
but still premo>>>>>3-6 haha



Yeah that track was kinda gay ;D

still bangs in a system, really the only mainstream "attempt" by them
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Jaydc555 on February 27, 2009, 03:04:25 PM
So that song with good Charlotte wasn't a mainstream attempt?lol.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Paul on February 27, 2009, 03:10:49 PM
So that song with good Charlotte wasn't a mainstream attempt?lol.


Not at all, the subject matter , lyrics and production was nowhere near an attempt at mainstream

Because they use a popular band doesnt mean there doin some Lil wayne shit
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Jaydc555 on February 27, 2009, 03:47:20 PM
I don't know were on opposite sides of the fence.see I can respect 3 6 but I like my hip hop to be more then just a hot beat.I want an emcee with actual skill and is actually saying something.3 6 is mind numbingly dumb music from a lyrics standpoint.rhyming fun with gun is a complex rhyme scheme for them.with premo you know have to bring heat otherwise he isn't going to work with you.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 27, 2009, 04:29:04 PM
I don't know were on opposite sides of the fence.see I can respect 3 6 but I like my hip hop to be more then just a hot beat.I want an emcee with actual skill and is actually saying something.3 6 is mind numbingly dumb music from a lyrics standpoint.rhyming fun with gun is a complex rhyme scheme for them.with premo you know have to bring heat otherwise he isn't going to work with you.


Good Charlott wasn't a commercial attempt, even though it woulda been kool (but I personally thought they coulda added more to the beat- they're already rock hop in a way, some bad azz heavy chord 17 note melody electric guitars and some GOOD sounding Wah guitar riffs woulda killed that shit and some MK1 Rhodes).

That old lyricsm arguement is really dum now, so wat if u don't rhyme like m.c killa god.  all rap music don't have to have some mind blowing extravaganza of punch lines and freestyle raps or songs about i had it hard growing up so now that i made it im a grown man now lmao.  keep that shit simple and straight to the point.  you have to be in a mood to listen to all music though.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39IKF2oh7kU&feature=related  *General's Daughter Movie Score, not theme* - (bruce willis):  Preme couldn't fuck a sample up like this

but we can all agree that the more you add to music that makes it better right.?  all im saying is if i can only play 3 different notes on a horn really good and that was it and you compared me to someone who played 8 notes on a horn really good then you would consider my competition better than me.  And that's how i see it, Im not rallying for HCP bcuz i like them better- i'm speaking solely as an artist and a lover of the game.  you can't say 75 cents is better than a dollar, it just ain't true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8uMR5qCIzk - you ain't always gotta talk "sense" to make a better record, just feel that shit- u kno  (don't answer dat)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsewKmO-1j0&feature=related  - hype music on some REAL shit! - fuck sittin' in my seat I need to get up or feel that shit when i'm bumpin my shit.   *<--nevermind what i wrote earlier in this post, i was bein' dum but ya'll know wat i'm sayin*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQttkVKkllI&feature=related


I love chill/jazzy music just as much as the next person does (especially that dark laid back pimp shit like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqaXELr5Mro ) but all i'm sayin is don't bore me with your basic ass beats and "my lyrics burn like takin a shit after eatin a jalapeno burrito" rhymes and  then call yourself the god of dj'n and production.  doing nothing but songs like that can be just a lame as songs like "kiss you thru the phone" no matter how positive your message is.  it ain't like we ain't never heard songs like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g19-tI3Ub_A before a million times, it's just a different beat and different artists. 
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 28, 2009, 07:10:26 AM
I'll keep my Rap Music with real music like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uNVT1sj2zo & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktCuDxFUQmc rather than my music with only the basics like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2_LQZ9At4Q i give The Cool Kidz they props and that's where it stops.  Is that what "real" hip hop is.  I mean no disrespect to tha past and the forefathers but it's 2009, that shit has to left in tha past like last years milk in tha fridge today and your favorite toy you had growing up as a kid (you'd wanna preserve it maybe, but u gotta put it up and advance yourself).  Every now and again "Retro" hip hop records are cool and will always be, even for a concept album/mixtape today, but if every record has that same old sound with just tha same drums, same bass, and high top fade rhymes, you aren't exactly what I call a Good Artist.  Every coast has this problem but c'mon- New York style Hip Hop (no disrespect bcuz I fux wit em all) has been more boring then watching nothing but back to back to back to back to back and more back to backs of dance records and kiddie records.  though not all bad, it's still just as bad.  and i'm not generalizing.  i need my records like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP5mENEADro & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uDgoudl8dw&feature=PlayList&p=E8B265000CB105D2&playnext=1&index=49 but as human beings dont we all need variety (and good variety) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox6lGV0cr7U *Classic*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e7zHxUKulY - is this not the same message we heard 16 years ago, i think it's time to move on.  i love the beat but how shitty jealous can 1 State be?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMB0n1k6C0M - not an enjoyable record by my standards but definitly a direction of where Hip Hop needs to go.  I love simple records too, but you can't possible say your perception of Hip Hop is better when you do nothing to your music but spit metaphoric poetry.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 28, 2009, 07:24:07 AM
I'll keep my Rap Music with real music like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uNVT1sj2zo & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktCuDxFUQmc rather than my music with only the basics like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2_LQZ9At4Q i give The Cool Kidz they props and that's where it stops.  Is that what "real" hip hop is.  I mean no disrespect to tha past and the forefathers but it's 2009, that shit has to left in tha past like last years milk in tha fridge today and your favorite toy you had growing up as a kid (you'd wanna preserve it maybe, but u gotta put it up and advance yourself).  Every now and again "Retro" hip hop records are cool and will always be, even for a concept album/mixtape today, but if every record has that same old sound with just tha same drums, same bass, and high top fade rhymes, you aren't exactly what I call a Good Artist.  Every coast has this problem but c'mon- New York style Hip Hop (no disrespect bcuz I fux wit em all) has been more boring then watching nothing but back to back to back to back to back and more back to backs of dance records and kiddie records.  though not all bad, it's still just as bad.  and i'm not generalizing.  i need my records like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP5mENEADro but as human beings dont we all need variety (and good variety) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox6lGV0cr7U *Classic*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e7zHxUKulY - is this not the same message we heard 16 years ago, i think it's time to move on.  i love the beat but how shitty jealous can 1 State be?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMB0n1k6C0M - not an enjoyable record by my standards but definitly a direction of where Hip Hop needs to go.  I love simple records too, but you can't possible say your perception of Hip Hop is better when you do nothing to your music but spit metaphoric poetry.

So basically, what you are saying is there is no message in any of the music 3-6 does, so it stays fresh.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 28, 2009, 07:28:20 AM
I'll keep my Rap Music with real music like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uNVT1sj2zo & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktCuDxFUQmc rather than my music with only the basics like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2_LQZ9At4Q i give The Cool Kidz they props and that's where it stops.  Is that what "real" hip hop is.  I mean no disrespect to tha past and the forefathers but it's 2009, that shit has to left in tha past like last years milk in tha fridge today and your favorite toy you had growing up as a kid (you'd wanna preserve it maybe, but u gotta put it up and advance yourself).  Every now and again "Retro" hip hop records are cool and will always be, even for a concept album/mixtape today, but if every record has that same old sound with just tha same drums, same bass, and high top fade rhymes, you aren't exactly what I call a Good Artist.  Every coast has this problem but c'mon- New York style Hip Hop (no disrespect bcuz I fux wit em all) has been more boring then watching nothing but back to back to back to back to back and more back to backs of dance records and kiddie records.  though not all bad, it's still just as bad.  and i'm not generalizing.  i need my records like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP5mENEADro & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uDgoudl8dw&feature=PlayList&p=E8B265000CB105D2&playnext=1&index=49 but as human beings dont we all need variety (and good variety) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox6lGV0cr7U *Classic*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e7zHxUKulY - is this not the same message we heard 16 years ago, i think it's time to move on.  i love the beat but how shitty jealous can 1 State be?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMB0n1k6C0M - not an enjoyable record by my standards but definitly a direction of where Hip Hop needs to go.  I love simple records too, but you can't possible say your perception of Hip Hop is better when you do nothing to your music but spit metaphoric poetry.

So basically, what you are saying is there is no message in any of the music 3-6 does, so it stays fresh.


Yeah pretty much, that's in any genre of music.  the best songs are really about nothin but chill shit (being high, partying, and other social activities/events).  but the message Three 6 put out and why I like em so much is have fun and dumb out.  how could you live a good life if you don't sometimes? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE3O9wKN_FM or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLPRQ7NS1Iw&feature=PlayList&p=E8B265000CB105D2&index=50&playnext=2&playnext_from=PL is it all not the same??
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 28, 2009, 08:44:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBNsmhynapw  - i wish more program outlets would do this shit

Anybody got the full version (all together)




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPgjpvnTRxo&feature=related
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 28, 2009, 09:43:53 AM
I'll keep my Rap Music with real music like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uNVT1sj2zo & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktCuDxFUQmc rather than my music with only the basics like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2_LQZ9At4Q i give The Cool Kidz they props and that's where it stops.  Is that what "real" hip hop is.  I mean no disrespect to tha past and the forefathers but it's 2009, that shit has to left in tha past like last years milk in tha fridge today and your favorite toy you had growing up as a kid (you'd wanna preserve it maybe, but u gotta put it up and advance yourself).  Every now and again "Retro" hip hop records are cool and will always be, even for a concept album/mixtape today, but if every record has that same old sound with just tha same drums, same bass, and high top fade rhymes, you aren't exactly what I call a Good Artist.  Every coast has this problem but c'mon- New York style Hip Hop (no disrespect bcuz I fux wit em all) has been more boring then watching nothing but back to back to back to back to back and more back to backs of dance records and kiddie records.  though not all bad, it's still just as bad.  and i'm not generalizing.  i need my records like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP5mENEADro & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uDgoudl8dw&feature=PlayList&p=E8B265000CB105D2&playnext=1&index=49 but as human beings dont we all need variety (and good variety) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox6lGV0cr7U *Classic*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e7zHxUKulY - is this not the same message we heard 16 years ago, i think it's time to move on.  i love the beat but how shitty jealous can 1 State be?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMB0n1k6C0M - not an enjoyable record by my standards but definitly a direction of where Hip Hop needs to go.  I love simple records too, but you can't possible say your perception of Hip Hop is better when you do nothing to your music but spit metaphoric poetry.

So basically, what you are saying is there is no message in any of the music 3-6 does, so it stays fresh.


Yeah pretty much, that's in any genre of music.  the best songs are really about nothin but chill shit (being high, partying, and other social activities/events).  but the message Three 6 put out and why I like em so much is have fun and dumb out.  how could you live a good life if you don't sometimes? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE3O9wKN_FM or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLPRQ7NS1Iw&feature=PlayList&p=E8B265000CB105D2&index=50&playnext=2&playnext_from=PL

OK, fair enough, but are you saying you don't like any hip hop songs with a message in because eventually, the message becomes outdated and meaningless?
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 28, 2009, 10:14:49 AM
I'll keep my Rap Music with real music like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uNVT1sj2zo & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktCuDxFUQmc rather than my music with only the basics like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2_LQZ9At4Q i give The Cool Kidz they props and that's where it stops.  Is that what "real" hip hop is.  I mean no disrespect to tha past and the forefathers but it's 2009, that shit has to left in tha past like last years milk in tha fridge today and your favorite toy you had growing up as a kid (you'd wanna preserve it maybe, but u gotta put it up and advance yourself).  Every now and again "Retro" hip hop records are cool and will always be, even for a concept album/mixtape today, but if every record has that same old sound with just tha same drums, same bass, and high top fade rhymes, you aren't exactly what I call a Good Artist.  Every coast has this problem but c'mon- New York style Hip Hop (no disrespect bcuz I fux wit em all) has been more boring then watching nothing but back to back to back to back to back and more back to backs of dance records and kiddie records.  though not all bad, it's still just as bad.  and i'm not generalizing.  i need my records like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP5mENEADro & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uDgoudl8dw&feature=PlayList&p=E8B265000CB105D2&playnext=1&index=49 but as human beings dont we all need variety (and good variety) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox6lGV0cr7U *Classic*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e7zHxUKulY - is this not the same message we heard 16 years ago, i think it's time to move on.  i love the beat but how shitty jealous can 1 State be?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMB0n1k6C0M - not an enjoyable record by my standards but definitly a direction of where Hip Hop needs to go.  I love simple records too, but you can't possible say your perception of Hip Hop is better when you do nothing to your music but spit metaphoric poetry.

So basically, what you are saying is there is no message in any of the music 3-6 does, so it stays fresh.


Yeah pretty much, that's in any genre of music.  the best songs are really about nothin but chill shit (being high, partying, and other social activities/events).  but the message Three 6 put out and why I like em so much is have fun and dumb out.  how could you live a good life if you don't sometimes? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE3O9wKN_FM or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLPRQ7NS1Iw&feature=PlayList&p=E8B265000CB105D2&index=50&playnext=2&playnext_from=PL

OK, fair enough, but are you saying you don't like any hip hop songs with a message in because eventually, the message becomes outdated and meaningless?

no dickhead i'm not sayin nothin like that, stop analyzing what's already been said, you fuck up and distort the message.  all i'm sayin MOST people like to dance or whatever rendition of dancing they can do.  you can't dance to a song called "knowledge power". 

10-15 years down the line we remember songs like "gin n juice" and "nothin but a g thang" and "juicy" and "sippin on some sizzurp" and "money aint a thang" and "cell therapy" and so on-     u know those classics that have that party/dance/upbeat vibe to it, not songs like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VCCPiiOpOc .  Definitely there are good and timeless songs but it's not something that you'll pop on at a Family Reunion when you turn 62 and capture that reminiscent vision of that particular time in your life (if you can image that).  i couldn't image playing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usy19A1Yo60&feature=related or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEk-v-onnlo&feature=related or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYdY9sAiUbE&feature=related at a BBQ when I have to start poppin viagra and bouncing my granddaughter on my lap (i hate to use Preme 4 an example of this but it's tha truth about his style of music and for producers who makes beats with that style). 


I know you're unknudgent about it now but as we all age and time goes on... truthfully the South will have more timeless rap tunes that our grandchildren will love more than you can imagine/think about now.  Historians wouldn't do Rap music any justice without this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGFKnmgKJDw and others like it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uihQ2SkEQ00 (of course the original but u c wat i'm sayin).  and classic music discussions (about all music) wouldn't be the same without Southern Hip Hop, truthfully you'd be discounting alot of official classics and gems.  hell even "The Stank Legg" has it's rightful place in history and not just as a parody either.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 28, 2009, 10:50:22 AM
So if you can't dance to a song or play it a family reunion, they won't be remembered, what a load of shit. They are the most likely songs I'll play when I get older.  I know for a fact if I had a bunch of friends over I would play Mass Appeal, Memory Lane, The Come Up etc, over Stanky Leg, Crank Dat, Low and all that shit. Them last songs I just named will never be remembered and played again because they are just a fad and it will fade out. I was a bit into So Solid Crew/Oxide & Neutrino at one point when there was a fad on here in the UK, but I listen back and listen to that shit with embarrasement. That is just your personal opinion, so stop typing as everyone and change it to I as that is how you feel.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 28, 2009, 12:28:33 PM
So if you can't dance to a song or play it a family reunion, they won't be remembered, what a load of shit. They are the most likely songs I'll play when I get older.  I know for a fact if I had a bunch of friends over I would play Mass Appeal, Memory Lane, The Come Up etc, over Stanky Leg, Crank Dat, Low and all that shit. Them last songs I just named will never be remembered and played again because they are just a fad and it will fade out. I was a bit into So Solid Crew/Oxide & Neutrino at one point when there was a fad on here in the UK, but I listen back and listen to that shit with embarrasement. That is just your personal opinion, so stop typing as everyone and change it to I as that is how you feel.


now i c... you're from the UK- u don't vibe like we do ova here in the States.  i say nothing about playing Stanky Legg when u around ya niggaz or a reunion when ur 70.  i think ur just a bored as fuck jackass who's mad that i'm right and the way i've analyzed this WHOLE topic is sharper than anything you've come up with in school or in the work field since u 1st popped outcha mama hairy asshole (and u started this thread too).  and how do u listen 2 rap music and be embarrassed- you're not even from tha same hood as them or black for that matter.  u dont hear niggaz like i'm embarrassed bcuz 50 cent shitted on Robbie Williams and Vanilla Ice got hung over a balcony so I'm upset *i'm high*.  it's saturday, you're such a man - go out and do somethin', do u not have any bitches 2 fuck  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDAHKcFH4l8
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on February 28, 2009, 01:25:08 PM
So if you can't dance to a song or play it a family reunion, they won't be remembered, what a load of shit. They are the most likely songs I'll play when I get older.  I know for a fact if I had a bunch of friends over I would play Mass Appeal, Memory Lane, The Come Up etc, over Stanky Leg, Crank Dat, Low and all that shit. Them last songs I just named will never be remembered and played again because they are just a fad and it will fade out. I was a bit into So Solid Crew/Oxide & Neutrino at one point when there was a fad on here in the UK, but I listen back and listen to that shit with embarrasement. That is just your personal opinion, so stop typing as everyone and change it to I as that is how you feel.


now i c... you're from the UK- u don't vibe like we do ova here in the States.  i say nothing about playing Stanky Legg when u around ya niggaz or a reunion when ur 70.  i think ur just a bored as fuck jackass who's mad that i'm right and the way i've analyzed this WHOLE topic is sharper than anything you've come up with in school or in the work field since u 1st popped outcha mama hairy asshole (and u started this thread too).  and how do u listen 2 rap music and be embarrassed- you're not even from tha same hood as them or black for that matter.  u dont hear niggaz like i'm embarrassed bcuz 50 cent shitted on Robbie Williams and Vanilla Ice got hung over a balcony so I'm upset *i'm high*.  it's saturday, you're such a man - go out and do somethin', do u not have any bitches 2 fuck  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDAHKcFH4l8

Jesus christ, why do you have to be so personal, I haven't said shit about you as a person. You think you win because you are from the States? Are you midwestryder's alias by any chance? You are just trying to make yourself feel better because you are the only one that thinks this. You said that Stanky Leg has its rightful place in history, what the fuck was that supposed to mean? That you like it? Or that as its a party tune, it goes down as a better song than any Premier song as you can dance to it? Stop talking shit.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Jaydc555 on February 28, 2009, 02:34:20 PM
I like how he attacks people for spending too much time on here or being here on a saturday but yet he replies more then anyone to the thread with long drawn nonsense bullshit
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 28, 2009, 02:36:17 PM

damn you got competition with your own quotes, how many classics you gon drop?
but yeah good shit



I like how he attacks people for spending too much time on here or being here on a saturday but yet he replies more then anyone to the thread with long drawn nonsense bullshit
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Jaydc555 on February 28, 2009, 02:38:16 PM
Hahahahahaha I kid you not,I found a couple days ago my friends started a facebook group for my quotes.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 28, 2009, 02:43:46 PM
im tellin you if i had enuff time and i knew how to use that typa shit, I would too.
its got
comedy
truth


theres nuthin else needed when you have that, nuthin.  so by you havin that you hurtin muffuccaz str8 up
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: MediumL on February 28, 2009, 05:00:10 PM
So if you can't dance to a song or play it a family reunion, they won't be remembered, what a load of shit. They are the most likely songs I'll play when I get older.  I know for a fact if I had a bunch of friends over I would play Mass Appeal, Memory Lane, The Come Up etc, over Stanky Leg, Crank Dat, Low and all that shit. Them last songs I just named will never be remembered and played again because they are just a fad and it will fade out. I was a bit into So Solid Crew/Oxide & Neutrino at one point when there was a fad on here in the UK, but I listen back and listen to that shit with embarrasement. That is just your personal opinion, so stop typing as everyone and change it to I as that is how you feel.

BLASPHEMY! 21 seconds, all over, no good 4 me and Oh no regularly get spins with me  8)
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 28, 2009, 05:14:54 PM
damn real fuckin shit




So if you can't dance to a song or play it a family reunion, they won't be remembered, what a load of shit. They are the most likely songs I'll play when I get older.  I know for a fact if I had a bunch of friends over I would play Mass Appeal, Memory Lane, The Come Up etc, over Stanky Leg, Crank Dat, Low and all that shit. Them last songs I just named will never be remembered and played again because they are just a fad and it will fade out. I was a bit into So Solid Crew/Oxide & Neutrino at one point when there was a fad on here in the UK, but I listen back and listen to that shit with embarrasement. That is just your personal opinion, so stop typing as everyone and change it to I as that is how you feel.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Paul on March 01, 2009, 06:05:07 AM
I have to start poppin viagra and bouncing my granddaughter on my lap


 :puke:
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: jeromechickenbone on March 01, 2009, 10:25:02 AM
So lets get this straight.  Most people like to dance to music.  Therefore, all music should be uptempo, bass heavy, and devoid of any real deep subject matter.  Thats one of the dumbest things I've read on here in quite sometime.    If you think hip hop SHOULD sound only one way than there really is no point in discussing shit with you. 

In this guy's world, unless you are the same ethnicity as him, unless you live in the same area as him, you don't understand hip hop.  Let me give you some advice homes, get the fuck outta your neighborhood - you're a very sheltered cat.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 01, 2009, 12:18:19 PM
damn if i had enuff room in my sig (or maybe i do) that would go in there





So lets get this straight.  Most people like to dance to music.  Therefore, all music should be uptempo, bass heavy, and devoid of any real deep subject matter.  Thats one of the dumbest things I've read on here in quite sometime.    If you think hip hop SHOULD sound only one way than there really is no point in discussing shit with you. 

In this guy's world, unless you are the same ethnicity as him, unless you live in the same area as him, you don't understand hip hop.  Let me give you some advice homes, get the fuck outta your neighborhood - you're a very sheltered cat.
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Invincible on March 01, 2009, 01:32:09 PM
So lets get this straight.  Most people like to dance to music.  Therefore, all music should be uptempo, bass heavy, and devoid of any real deep subject matter.  Thats one of the dumbest things I've read on here in quite sometime.    If you think hip hop SHOULD sound only one way than there really is no point in discussing shit with you. 

In this guy's world, unless you are the same ethnicity as him, unless you live in the same area as him, you don't understand hip hop.  Let me give you some advice homes, get the fuck outta your neighborhood - you're a very sheltered cat.

Thanks for putting it a better way than I did. +1
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Black Excellence on March 01, 2009, 04:33:34 PM
I love both producers.I don't really see why they are being compared its apples and oranges
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: Al Bundy on March 01, 2009, 05:56:44 PM
So lets get this straight.  Most people like to dance to music.  Therefore, all music should be uptempo, bass heavy, and devoid of any real deep subject matter.  Thats one of the dumbest things I've read on here in quite sometime.    If you think hip hop SHOULD sound only one way than there really is no point in discussing shit with you. 

In this guy's world, unless you are the same ethnicity as him, unless you live in the same area as him, you don't understand hip hop.  Let me give you some advice homes, get the fuck outta your neighborhood - you're a very sheltered cat.

jrome droppin jewels like usual. +1
Title: Re: Reasons how DJ Premier is best and not over-rated
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on October 01, 2011, 08:06:39 PM
(http://www.baggalutur.is/images/gestfrettir/gestfrett_829wigger_hair3.jpg)

brings a tear to your eye doesn't it?