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Snoop Dogg joins Nation of Islam
Snoop Dogg has revealed he has joined the Nation of Islam after appearing at the religious group's annual Saviours' Day event in Chicago.
The rapper, who described himself as the "leader of the hip-hop community", told followers he would share what he learned with other musicians.
He told reporters that he joined the group because he was "doing what's right and representing what's right".
It preaches self-reliance for black people within an Islamic framework.
At Sunday's event, the rapper sat on stage while Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan gave a speech.
I live how I'm supposed to live as far as doing what's right and representing what's right - that's why I was here today
- Snoop Dogg
He said afterwards that listening to the speech from Mr Farrakhan was "about a mirror - it's about looking at yourself".
He added: "We're doing a lot of wrongs among ourselves that need correcting."
When asked if he had joined the movement he said: "I'm already in the Nation, that's why I'm here.
"I'm an advocate for peace, I've been in the peace movement ever since I've been making music.
"My whole thing is not about really trying to push my thing on you.
"It's just about the way I live, and I live how I'm supposed to live as far as doing what's right and representing what's right - that's why I was here today."
He would not say when he had joined the Nation of Islam.
Snoop Dogg joins Nation of Islam
Snoop Dogg would not say when he had joined Nation of Islam
Snoop Dogg has revealed he has joined the Nation of Islam after appearing at the religious group's annual Saviours' Day event in Chicago.
The rapper, who described himself as the "leader of the hip-hop community", told followers he would share what he learned with other musicians.
He told reporters that he joined the group because he was "doing what's right and representing what's right".
It preaches self-reliance for black people within an Islamic framework.
At Sunday's event, the rapper sat on stage while Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan gave a speech.
I live how I'm supposed to live as far as doing what's right and representing what's right - that's why I was here today
Snoop Dogg
He said afterwards that listening to the speech from Mr Farrakhan was "about a mirror - it's about looking at yourself".
He added: "We're doing a lot of wrongs among ourselves that need correcting."
When asked if he had joined the movement he said: "I'm already in the Nation, that's why I'm here.
"I'm an advocate for peace, I've been in the peace movement ever since I've been making music.
"My whole thing is not about really trying to push my thing on you.
"It's just about the way I live, and I live how I'm supposed to live as far as doing what's right and representing what's right - that's why I was here today."
He would not say when he had joined the Nation of Islam.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7918383.stm
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i guess that's what drugs can do to you
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Now Snoop scared off all his white fans. NOI is so 90's.
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so snoop is muslim now ?
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not something that suprises me. its the trend for westcoast rappers to join the nation.
i guess he wont be making anymore songs about how he loves eating bacon, like on that eastsidaz song "hogg moggs n chitlins". LOL
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Alot of rappers is muslim,tray Deee,AZ,tru life,the list go's on.
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so snoop is muslim now ?
noi is not muslim. they are a black supremacy group.
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NOSHIT??
INTERSTINNNN
DPGC23
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Im sure he aint part of it maybe he just support it
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what a loser
mixing rap and religion is a wrong move
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Im sure he aint part of it maybe he just support it
oh yes he is.
i guess that's what drugs can do to you
I'm expecting that the next Snoop album will be something like Death Certificate,Shock Of The Hour and RBX-Files then. :D :D :D
:laugh: Snoop Dogg : the advocate of peace ;D
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what a loser
mixing rap and religion is a wrong move
why is it wrong? if you have a message u wanna give?
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what a loser
mixing rap and religion is a wrong move
how do you know he's mixing rap with religion?....
he hasnt released any music since he publically announced that he joined the NOI.
i dont think much will change in his music.
tray deee is in the nation of islam, and he raps about gangbangin shyt.
me personally, i think this could be a good thing musicwise. snoop might have a bit more substance in his lyrics now, but he aint gonna get all religious, and turn his raps into some gospel music, so dont worry.
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Interesting... but I really don't know that much about the modern Nation of Islam, I've only read about 60's NOI.
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new doggy farrakhan pork chop sandwich biscuitz comin' soon.
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haha
new doggy farrakhan pork chop sandwich biscuitz comin' soon.
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I don't see Snoop giving up weed or pork anytime soon.
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haha then hell have many visits from the minister from the eastcoast and he already got magic don juan by his side
I don't see Snoop giving up weed or pork anytime soon.
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don juan is in the "nation of islam" aswell?
I don't see Snoop giving up weed or pork anytime soon.
giving up pork is easy. i gave up eatin it over 10 years ago. it would be much harder to give up chicken or beef, but i have no intention of giving up that, lol.
if snoop is obliged to give up weed, then i think he'll struggle with that, and most probably wont give that up.
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I dont know if he is (guessin not) but i look at him as snoops church advisor
his right hand pimp man da fuck he is
he gives advice right or some shit..
don juan is in the "nation of islam" aswell?
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its easy to give up pork when you find out whats that shits made of.
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yeah well i dont eat it but can you explain exactly whats in it?
and whats it made out of?
good lookin
its easy to give up pork when you find out whats that shits made of.
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yeah well i dont eat it but can you explain exactly whats in it?
and whats it made out of?
good lookin
its easy to give up pork when you find out whats that shits made of.
Black people only eat that shit because mentally a lot of us are stilll slaves, walking zombies..... eye love that episode of the boondocks....when its about they grandpa opening a pork restaurant.......you should check it out........ but eye aint going to get into the make up of the pig.......eye been through it again and again............with people on here...........but do the knowledge
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i guess that's what drugs can do to you
I'm expecting that the next Snoop album will be something like Death Certificate,Shock Of The Hour and RBX-Files then. :D :D :D
Imagine Dre and Em's expressions when Snoop shows up to record on Detox and drops 'Cave Bitch' style lyrics and Dr Khalid Abdul Muhammad sermons, lol.
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pork obviously as you know is the meat from the pig, and the pig is a filthy animal that rolls around in the mud and its shyt, and eats its own shyt.
for those that dont know, in the old testament of the bible, it is forbidden to eat meat from the pig, and that's why jews dont eat pork.
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good lookin ironmike
i mean i knew all this shit already but i thought someone would have more of a indepth explaination
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refer to the old testament of the bible, at the beginning of Chapter 11 in Leviticus.
http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/leviticus/leviticus11.htm
Leviticus, Chapter 11
1 The LORD said to Moses and Aaron,
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"Speak to the Israelites and tell them: Of all land animals these are the ones
you may eat:
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any animal that has hoofs you may eat, provided it is cloven-footed and chews
the cud.
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But you shall not eat any of the following that only chew the cud or only have
hoofs: the camel, which indeed chews the cud, but does not have hoofs and is
therefore unclean for you;
5
2 the rock badger, which indeed chews the cud, but does not have hoofs and is
therefore unclean for you;
6
the hare, which indeed chews the cud, but does not have hoofs and is therefore
unclean for you; and the pig,
7
which does indeed have hoofs and is cloven-footed, but does not chew the cud
and is therefore unclean for you.
8
Their flesh you shall not eat, and their dead bodies you shall not touch; they
are unclean for you.
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yeah well i also asked it in here to get others input on it but....
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(http://asianwindow.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/snoop.jpg)
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LOL... If Everlast of house of pain/la coka nostra is a muslim this doesn't surprise me at all. Snoop is a media whore anyway.
look out for his next DVD "MUSLIMS GONE WILD, GIRLS FROM MECCA"....
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i was born into islam.
snoop is getting ridiculous. i almost dispise him as much as jay-z. retire you fuckin hog and put some of the new guys on you bitch.
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(http://asianwindow.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/snoop.jpg)
that's funny stuff, Salam Snoop!
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So he is now Snoopkim Allah or Muhammed Dogg LMAO!
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that picture of snoop, is him in india, doing some bollywood film gig
i was born into islam.
snoop is getting ridiculous. i almost dispise him as much as jay-z. retire you fuckin hog and put some of the new guys on you bitch.
so what if you're born into islam. dont others have the right to embrace its teachings besides those who are born into muslim families?.... infact, as far as i know, islam promotes the converting of non-believers to islam. snoop has just as much right to be a muslim as you or anyone else does. religion is a personal thing, and you dont know snoop's reasons why he became a muslim. that's his perogative.
plus snoop didnt even convert to mainstream islam. he converted to "the nation of islam" which is a black empowerment religious organisation in america, which has its following based mainly from young black american converts, just like snoop.
and why the fukk should he retire?..... if there is still a demand for his music, and there's money to be made, then let him make his money.
and if you havnt noticed, snoop has been putting so many new rappers on, so what the fukk are you talking about?.... do i have to mention names?....
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Hope Snoop finds the "real Islam" when he is really interessted... like malcom X
Many black people first join the NOI and later on convert to the "normal islam"
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Look at dave CHappelle... he is a muslim (not only by name, he is practising it)
but when u see his show or his movies, it doesnt get along with islamic teachings
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picture of snoop with minister ishmael muhammad
(http://i39.tinypic.com/20k8281.jpg)
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Hope Snoop finds the "real Islam" when he is really interessted... like malcom X
Many black people first join the NOI and later on convert to the "normal islam"
WORD!!!!
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Hope Snoop finds the "real Islam" when he is really interessted... like malcom X
Many black people first join the NOI and later on convert to the "normal islam"
WORD!!!!
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looks like Kams rubbing off on another affiliate......
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that boy is confused 8)
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refer to the old testament of the bible, at the beginning of Chapter 11 in Leviticus.
http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/leviticus/leviticus11.htm
Leviticus, Chapter 11
1 The LORD said to Moses and Aaron,
2
"Speak to the Israelites and tell them: Of all land animals these are the ones
you may eat:
3
any animal that has hoofs you may eat, provided it is cloven-footed and chews
the cud.
4
But you shall not eat any of the following that only chew the cud or only have
hoofs: the camel, which indeed chews the cud, but does not have hoofs and is
therefore unclean for you;
5
2 the rock badger, which indeed chews the cud, but does not have hoofs and is
therefore unclean for you;
6
the hare, which indeed chews the cud, but does not have hoofs and is therefore
unclean for you; and the pig,
7
which does indeed have hoofs and is cloven-footed, but does not chew the cud
and is therefore unclean for you.
8
Their flesh you shall not eat, and their dead bodies you shall not touch; they
are unclean for you.
this guy knows his shit...............
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eye dont know why Blacks fuck with Christianity or Islam. Islam is not the orginals man religion...........they forced that shit on us........just like Christians did.
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eye dont know why Blacks fuck with Christianity or Islam. Islam is not the orginals man religion...........they forced that shit on us........just like Christians did.
read malcolm x and you understand why black people join to islam
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i was born into islam.
snoop is getting ridiculous. i almost dispise him as much as jay-z. retire you fuckin hog and put some of the new guys on you bitch.
ohhh, i dont think that you really live the islam.
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what a loser
mixing rap and religion is a wrong move
how do you know he's mixing rap with religion?....
he hasnt released any music since he publically announced that he joined the NOI.
Couldn't agree more....
If snoop wanna be muslim he's muslim. Man it's a religion, why should muslim be wrong or bad? it's just like any other religion .... man c'mon!
i'm sure snoop still can make rap without having his religion into it...
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eye dont know why Blacks fuck with Christianity or Islam. Islam is not the orginals man religion...........they forced that shit on us........just like Christians did.
read malcolm x and you understand why black people join to islam
lol at telling me to read the auto of malcolm X. Black people we need our own shit period. eye know how arabs look down on Blacks. once again islam was forced on Blacks just like christianity and the rest. Arabs had they little slave trade of Blacks also.
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Firstly, Nation of Islam are NOT muslim, they want yall to think they are, but they're not, a lot people say they are masons, fuck the noi
just do your research on malcolm x and look up NAPOLEON FROM OUTLAWS islamic talks , then you will learn the difference between REAL muslims and the noi
big up all the real muslims (rappers include tray dee,immortal technique, flesh-n-bone, bizzy bone, freeway...) and fuck the noi. If snoop joins the noi, he is far from a muslim. Malcolm saw the truth and became a real muslim, and why did they kill him? u do the math
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new snoop deville malcolm x edition comin' soon.
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islam was not forced on us, the quran consists of words from god, whereas the bible and torah were created by man (no disrespect). Even with all the haters , Islam is still the fastest growing religion in the world, and it's good to see so many blacks from the ghettos revert to islam. but dont be fooled by snoop, the noi aint islam man, it's a corrupt organisation.
I thought most of ya'll niggas would have seen the Malcolm X movie by now, damn , people 2day be on some bullshit
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islam was not forced on us, the quran consists of words from god, whereas the bible and torah were created by man (no disrespect). Even with all the haters , Islam is still the fastest growing religion in the world, and it's good to see so many blacks from the ghettos revert to islam. but dont be fooled by snoop, the noi aint islam man, it's a corrupt organisation.
I thought most of ya'll niggas would have seen the Malcolm X movie by now, damn , people 2day be on some bullshit
Can u prove that the Qu'ran consist of authentic words from Allah as well as prove that the Bible doesn't possess the authentic words of Jehovah(besides the different translations because every translations wasn't misinterpeted yet the hebrew and greek language was made more plain)? Both were physically written by men but is there full proof that the words are actually inspired by God?
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^^from what i understand the bible and torah wre infiltrated by romans and jewish pricks (devil worshippers/illuminati of that time) at BABYLON, theres a lot more to it, i suggest u do ur research like i did. and regarding the quran, well the prophet muhammad did write the quran and he communicated with god himself. People at that time believed muhammad and the quran, mostly due to muhammad and the previous prophets (i.e moses) MIRACLES. These men were chosen by god to become prophets and perform miraculous activities. There are so many, i cant write them in this thread , your better of researching it, even wikipedia will give you good insight. In a nutshell, muhammad and the other prophets spoke the truth and crazy miracles happened at certain times which must have made realise islam is the truth, and it was spread throughout arabia, africa, asia and southern europe.
I know this is off topic but im just answering the niggas question
back on topic, the day SNOOP DOGG turns into a real muslim would be one the biggest shocks of my life!
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this is good news, props to Snoop for standing up for what he believes... more on this later, because there was a lot of ignorance in this thread that I want to expose
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^^from what i understand the bible and torah wre infiltrated by romans and jewish pricks (devil worshippers/illuminati of that time) at BABYLON, theres a lot more to it, i suggest u do ur research like i did. and regarding the quran, well the prophet muhammad did write the quran and he communicated with god himself. People at that time believed muhammad and the quran, mostly due to muhammad and the previous prophets (i.e moses) MIRACLES. These men were chosen by god to become prophets and perform miraculous activities. There are so many, i cant write them in this thread , your better of researching it, even wikipedia will give you good insight. In a nutshell, muhammad and the other prophets spoke the truth and crazy miracles happened at certain times which must have made realise islam is the truth, and it was spread throughout arabia, africa, asia and southern europe.
I know this is off topic but im just answering the niggas question
back on topic, the day SNOOP DOGG turns into a real muslim would be one the biggest shocks of my life!
Yea, I did my research on both already. I just wanted to see what you would say.
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^^Heres some videos that may interest u
NAPOLEON speaking about islam, NOI and his life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0eTzCLYzPc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze_IUeyJwUo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgyD2VHGavE
I'm just saying that people shouldnt call someone a muslim if they join NOI, because the noi are corrupt. I do admire farrakhan when he attacks the US government but he's a phony. But anyway, big up to snoop if he feels he made a good move
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big up all the real muslims (rappers include tray dee,immortal technique, flesh-n-bone, bizzy bone, freeway...) and fuck the noi. If snoop joins the noi, he is far from a muslim. Malcolm saw the truth and became a real muslim, and why did they kill him? u do the math
i'm not sure about flesh, but tray dee is definately in the nation of islam.
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Snoop said nothing of becoming a Muslim.
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No matter the religion... it's all about the music
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exactly.
he can be a mormon, or a hindu for all i care,... just aslong as the music is dope, but lately he's been making alot of wack music, so i hope there'll be a change from that
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exactly.
he can be a mormon, or a hindu for all i care,... just aslong as the music is dope, but lately he's been making alot of wack music, so i hope there'll be a change from that
Yep. Apart the songs he has made with terrace in the past months, Snoop has put out some weird shit
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yeh, terrance is an incredible producer.
he makes some real funky beats that reminds me alot of the great 80's funk music like the babyface/L.A. reid produced hit singles for the whispers, midnight star, mac band etc.
i dont understand why todays music has to be completely different to what has been done in the past.
if great music was made in the past, then why not keep that flavor in the music. so terrance martin has got thumbs up from me.
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I just hope he can make a Death Certificate out of this.
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eye dont know why Blacks fuck with Christianity or Islam. Islam is not the orginals man religion...........they forced that shit on us........just like Christians did.
read malcolm x and you understand why black people join to islam
lol at telling me to read the auto of malcolm X. Black people we need our own shit period. eye know how arabs look down on Blacks. once again islam was forced on Blacks just like christianity and the rest. Arabs had they little slave trade of Blacks also.
WORD. Thats what I want to hear. People don't need constructs such as religion. They should just seek wisdom in all its forms. So study religion,science, mysticism, study it all. Let all knowledge be your religion and wisdom and understanding be your goal. Thats why I like alot of the 5% stuff. I'm thinking about taking it and altering it a little, making it a lil more universal and politically correct so that all peoples can get down with it a lil more easily....maybe i can start my own cult in the Australian outback...get some shortys to come out there wit me...Muahahahahahaaaaa! Ahem. But seriously, word.
"we gotta decide...are we gonna go with the Islam...are we gonna go with the Israel...or are we gonna take the best out of both parts and just be us!?"
-Killah Priest.
Work out your own salvation. Do not depend on others.
-The Buddha.
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so snoop joined "religion of peace" or just NOI?
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It's one's own decision to believe in god, the great heavenly roller-coaster or whatever but saying that the bible and thora are written by man while the quoran comes from god seems a little ignorant to me.
You can find some wisdom in everything but to believe in a mysterious entity that created everything and offers us paradise if we obey the rules this "god" has given us seems questionable to me.
Logic and philosophy offer enough reason to behave according to certain morals which are often similar to those from different religions.
How about doing right because it's right, not because it's the order from a invisible super-power?
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Firstly, Nation of Islam are NOT muslim, they want yall to think they are, but they're not, a lot people say they are masons, fuck the noi
just do your research on malcolm x and look up NAPOLEON FROM OUTLAWS islamic talks , then you will learn the difference between REAL muslims and the noi
big up all the real muslims (rappers include tray dee,immortal technique, flesh-n-bone, bizzy bone, freeway...) and fuck the noi. If snoop joins the noi, he is far from a muslim. Malcolm saw the truth and became a real muslim, and why did they kill him? u do the math
Yeah Napoleon came to my university and talked about his life story and Islam. It was pretty cool but I just wanted to see him.
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It's one's own decision to believe in god, the great heavenly roller-coaster or whatever but saying that the bible and thora are written by man while the quoran comes from god seems a little ignorant to me.
i agree. there's no actual proof that the qua'ran was not written by man, so its not on any higher footing than the bible or torah in that aspect.
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It sounds to me like Snoop just said he's down with Farrakan and interested in what he had to say, I didn't see anything of him actually joining the Nation but who knows? Snoop tends to be all over the place. I never quite know where he stands on anything. I would be interested to see which direction his music would take as his previous work has consisted of tracks about partying, getting high, Crip-walkin', and pimping. I'm not saying it's not possible to move from that but if you're Snoop, where do you go? I can't imagine what a thought-provoking Snoop album would sound like. Even when he tries to do political-type stuff, he kind of sounds like average Joe speaking.
If he's taking a positive direction, that's cool, but Snoop as always struck me as kind of impulsive in his choices. He'll dedicate his energy to an idea for a short period of time but in the long run, he loses his interest.
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It's one's own decision to believe in god, the great heavenly roller-coaster or whatever but saying that the bible and thora are written by man while the quoran comes from god seems a little ignorant to me.
i agree. there's no actual proof that the qua'ran was not written by man, so its not on any higher footing than the bible or torah in that aspect.
Excactly! This kind of arrogance is causing people from different religions to fight each other, because they think they are better than others. Although I'm not a believer, I have to recognize religion as a main factor on our planet and I think we were better off if all these christians, muslims, buddists, hindus, etc. would practise a bit of the humility their religions teach.
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i guess that's what drugs can do to you
I'm expecting that the next Snoop album will be something like Death Certificate,Shock Of The Hour and RBX-Files then. :D :D :D
interesting, didn't know RBX was a Muslim...
*dusts off the old RBX album*
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what a loser
mixing rap and religion is a wrong move
Hip-hop has been mixed with religion since it's inception. The Zulu Nation is made up of Afrikka Bammbatta and Afrika Islam. I suggest you watch some documentaries on hip-hop, so that you can better understand the culture and it's history. The Lost Poets are all over the Art of Freestyle DVD, because they are regarded as some of the origional hip-hop artists from back in the day, in the bronx, dropping rhymes infront of crowds in the park. They explain how rap began and how it has progressed through the ages. Every one of it's members are Muslims.
Another classic hip-hop documentary is about graffiti. It is called Style Wars. There's an interesting piece in it, where all the graffiti writers are chillin in the subway, just kickin it talkin about the art of graffiti when one of them breaks into a freestyle about Allah. Most of it was 5% brand, but it's still an Islamic influence.
Then when you talk about the late 80's it was dominated by the righteous era. Artists like Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, dominated that era with Islamic influences. Then on into the early 90's you had Pete Rock and CL Smooth with the classic album for that era titled "MECCA AND THE SOUL BROTHER" and the hit song titled "Return of the Mecca". Then artists like Ice Cube and MC Ren of NWA were very expressive about their Islam in their first few solo albums. Ice Cube gives props to Farakhan and Elijah Muhammad in his Predator liner notes, and when he's talking about "Mama cooked a breakfast with no hog" at the beggining of his hit single "Today Was A Good Day" he's giving a veiled reference to his Islamic faith.
The list goes on forever of rappers mixing rap with Islam. Listen to Rass Kass first album, "Nature of the Threat" is a classic song, and in it he explains the rise of Islam and it's climax with the Spanish Kalifah of the 14the century. Also you have Nas referencing Islam in many of his songs, De La Soul, Q-Tip tip and Ali are Muslims from Tribe Called Quest and discuss it in many of their tracks.... yo, the list goes on forever.
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i guess that's what drugs can do to you
I'm expecting that the next Snoop album will be something like Death Certificate,Shock Of The Hour and RBX-Files then. :D :D :D
Imagine Dre and Em's expressions when Snoop shows up to record on Detox and drops 'Cave Bitch' style lyrics and Dr Khalid Abdul Muhammad sermons, lol.
Well... Dre still kept working with Cube even after Cube got into Islam
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that picture of snoop, is him in india, doing some bollywood film gig
i was born into islam.
snoop is getting ridiculous. i almost dispise him as much as jay-z. retire you fuckin hog and put some of the new guys on you bitch.
so what if you're born into islam. dont others have the right to embrace its teachings besides those who are born into muslim families?.... infact, as far as i know, islam promotes the converting of non-believers to islam. snoop has just as much right to be a muslim as you or anyone else does. religion is a personal thing, and you dont know snoop's reasons why he became a muslim. that's his perogative.
plus snoop didnt even convert to mainstream islam. he converted to "the nation of islam" which is a black empowerment religious organisation in america, which has its following based mainly from young black american converts, just like snoop.
and why the fukk should he retire?..... if there is still a demand for his music, and there's money to be made, then let him make his money.
and if you havnt noticed, snoop has been putting so many new rappers on, so what the fukk are you talking about?.... do i have to mention names?....
Co-sign.. dude was just being a hater.. he knows better than that.
Snoop has a right to believe in whatever he chooses, and dude has put on more rappers over the decades than anyone else I can think of.
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Hope Snoop finds the "real Islam" when he is really interessted... like malcom X
Many black people first join the NOI and later on convert to the "normal islam"
WORD!!!!
Naw man... you have to get passed labels. You can't automatically assume someone is a good or bad Muslim just because of what label is attatched to them (Sunni, Shia, Sufi, NOI, Wahhabi, Tablighi, etc.)
Infact, really "Muslim" is just a label to begin with. It doesn't make a person good, bad, or whatever. Good and bad are subjective anyway, what's good for one person can be bad for another.
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It's one's own decision to believe in god, the great heavenly roller-coaster or whatever but saying that the bible and thora are written by man while the quoran comes from god seems a little ignorant to me.
i agree. there's no actual proof that the qua'ran was not written by man, so its not on any higher footing than the bible or torah in that aspect.
Well, your right that there's no proof the Qu'ran was not written by man. You know, it's kind of a semantic exercise. Basically, a Muslim like myself can say that Muhammad was a man, inspired by God to write the Qu'ran. Well, now, anybody can say they were inspired by God to do something. So that's not such an extravagant claim.
Also, the advantage the Qu'ran has over the Bible is that it is currently in the language it was originally revealed in, Arabic, and also in it's original form as memorized by Muhammad's companions during his lifetime, whereas the Bible was finally finished and compiled some 200 years after Jesus death, by people other than Jesus.
The Qur'an is in a distinct rhythm and flow so that it is easily memorized by people, this has protected it throughout the years.
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big up all the real muslims (rappers include tray dee,immortal technique, flesh-n-bone, bizzy bone, freeway...) and fuck the noi. If snoop joins the noi, he is far from a muslim. Malcolm saw the truth and became a real muslim, and why did they kill him? u do the math
i'm not sure about flesh, but tray dee is definately in the nation of islam.
Flesh is definitely orthodox Islam and not Nation of Islam. Because on his phone interview in the 2002 Bone album he says he's in prison practicing Al-Islam. Followers of Imam W.D. Muhammad, after he took his followers away from NOI and into mainstream Islam, used AL-Islam, Al=meaning THE, partly to distinguish themselves from the NOI and also it's the same description used in the Qu'ran when Allah says something to the effect of, "I have made Al-Islam your religion".
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if u believe in god then u gotta be a stupid muthafucca
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eye dont know why Blacks fuck with Christianity or Islam. Islam is not the orginals man religion...........they forced that shit on us........just like Christians did.
read malcolm x and you understand why black people join to islam
lol at telling me to read the auto of malcolm X. Black people we need our own shit period. eye know how arabs look down on Blacks. once again islam was forced on Blacks just like christianity and the rest. Arabs had they little slave trade of Blacks also.
WORD. Thats what I want to hear. People don't need constructs such as religion. They should just seek wisdom in all its forms. So study religion,science, mysticism, study it all. Let all knowledge be your religion and wisdom and understanding be your goal. Thats why I like alot of the 5% stuff. I'm thinking about taking it and altering it a little, making it a lil more universal and politically correct so that all peoples can get down with it a lil more easily....maybe i can start my own cult in the Australian outback...get some shortys to come out there wit me...Muahahahahahaaaaa! Ahem. But seriously, word.
"we gotta decide...are we gonna go with the Islam...are we gonna go with the Israel...or are we gonna take the best out of both parts and just be us!?"
-Killah Priest.
Work out your own salvation. Do not depend on others.
-The Buddha.
why would you want to alter the lessons given by the father?? eye am not comprehending that at all
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eye dont know why Blacks fuck with Christianity or Islam. Islam is not the orginals man religion...........they forced that shit on us........just like Christians did.
read malcolm x and you understand why black people join to islam
lol at telling me to read the auto of malcolm X. Black people we need our own shit period. eye know how arabs look down on Blacks. once again islam was forced on Blacks just like christianity and the rest. Arabs had they little slave trade of Blacks also.
WORD. Thats what I want to hear. People don't need constructs such as religion. They should just seek wisdom in all its forms. So study religion,science, mysticism, study it all. Let all knowledge be your religion and wisdom and understanding be your goal. Thats why I like alot of the 5% stuff. I'm thinking about taking it and altering it a little, making it a lil more universal and politically correct so that all peoples can get down with it a lil more easily....maybe i can start my own cult in the Australian outback...get some shortys to come out there wit me...Muahahahahahaaaaa! Ahem. But seriously, word.
"we gotta decide...are we gonna go with the Islam...are we gonna go with the Israel...or are we gonna take the best out of both parts and just be us!?"
-Killah Priest.
Work out your own salvation. Do not depend on others.
-The Buddha.
why would you want to alter the lessons given by the father?? eye am not comprehending that at all
To make it more universal and open to all people, not just black folks. 'the Black Man is god', I would change that and say something like "the power of god is in you and all living things, the Supreme Being poured into all living vessals" or something more universal like that, it is irrelevant whether the black man is the original man or not; if all people are truly of one family. Having said that I know about ancient Ethiopia and ancient Egypt and how Africa was the cradle of civilization...does not mean I want to ignore all that. That goes for what I think about all religions, beliefs and movements though Job, I think they all at their core, at their true meaning contain a universal message once you strip away the particularities. But on the other hand, maybe religion is also suppose to represent those particularities of history, time and circumstance, maybe thats part of what it is to be human, and also essential to the evolution of our consciousness so that we may learn dignity in difference and beauty in diversity.
Anyway, I'm not really the type of person to go out and start a new quasi-religious movement, people got enough of that in the world. People need more wisdom and understanding of what they already have, not more doctrines spouted forth.
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..."if you believe in god then you gotta be a stupid muthafucka"....well i believe in god ...and im far from stupid...so ease up off the wild generalizations nigga....bkuz u obviously dont know what the fuck your talking about...
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haha yeah i was gon say theres millions of muffuccaz that believe in god, its up to them to believe in what they believe in but that dont make them stupid
might make others think bout them different if the other person dont believe in god themselves but i figured someone would say some shit bout that
..."if you believe in god then you gotta be a stupid muthafucka"....well i believe in god ...and im far from stupid...so ease up off the wild generalizations nigga....bkuz u obviously dont know what the fuck your talking about...
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it would make sense for it to be kam or even the minister himself?
wasnt minister f at the peace conference and he was sayin he was gon coach snoop?
and what religion is bc powda down wit?
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Snoop Dogg Speaks @ Nation of Islam's SD2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4gUoUqEzjE
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...i only responded bkuz he put tha word stupid in it....some people believe in a mystery god....others think they are god...some people even worship the devil....maybe they are all wrong....i dont know....just do u though....no need 4 tha disrespect...the world would be a better place....if people respected other points of view...thats all...
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YEAH I MEAN THERES A GANG OF RELIGIONS
HAS ANYONE HEARD OF ALKN OUTTA THE CHI?
not sure if its a religion or gang outta there
...i only responded bkuz he put tha word stupid in it....some people believe in a mystery god....others think they are god...some people even worship the devil....maybe they are all wrong....i dont know....just do u though....no need 4 tha disrespect...the world would be a better place....if people respected other points of view...thats all...
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he was doing christas songs 10 years ago
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eye dont know why Blacks fuck with Christianity or Islam. Islam is not the orginals man religion...........they forced that shit on us........just like Christians did.
read malcolm x and you understand why black people join to islam
lol at telling me to read the auto of malcolm X. Black people we need our own shit period. eye know how arabs look down on Blacks. once again islam was forced on Blacks just like christianity and the rest. Arabs had they little slave trade of Blacks also.
WORD. Thats what I want to hear. People don't need constructs such as religion. They should just seek wisdom in all its forms. So study religion,science, mysticism, study it all. Let all knowledge be your religion and wisdom and understanding be your goal. Thats why I like alot of the 5% stuff. I'm thinking about taking it and altering it a little, making it a lil more universal and politically correct so that all peoples can get down with it a lil more easily....maybe i can start my own cult in the Australian outback...get some shortys to come out there wit me...Muahahahahahaaaaa! Ahem. But seriously, word.
"we gotta decide...are we gonna go with the Islam...are we gonna go with the Israel...or are we gonna take the best out of both parts and just be us!?"
-Killah Priest.
Work out your own salvation. Do not depend on others.
-The Buddha.
why would you want to alter the lessons given by the father?? eye am not comprehending that at all
To make it more universal and open to all people, not just black folks. 'the Black Man is god', I would change that and say something like "the power of god is in you and all living things, the Supreme Being poured into all living vessals" or something more universal like that, it is irrelevant whether the black man is the original man or not; if all people are truly of one family. Having said that I know about ancient Ethiopia and ancient Egypt and how Africa was the cradle of civilization...does not mean I want to ignore all that. That goes for what I think about all religions, beliefs and movements though Job, I think they all at their core, at their true meaning contain a universal message once you strip away the particularities. But on the other hand, maybe religion is also suppose to represent those particularities of history, time and circumstance, maybe thats part of what it is to be human, and also essential to the evolution of our consciousness so that we may learn dignity in difference and beauty in diversity.
Anyway, I'm not really the type of person to go out and start a new quasi-religious movement, people got enough of that in the world. People need more wisdom and understanding of what they already have, not more doctrines spouted forth.
eye find that disrespecting.......and thats all eye am going to say about that
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eye dont know why Blacks fuck with Christianity or Islam. Islam is not the orginals man religion...........they forced that shit on us........just like Christians did.
read malcolm x and you understand why black people join to islam
lol at telling me to read the auto of malcolm X. Black people we need our own shit period. eye know how arabs look down on Blacks. once again islam was forced on Blacks just like christianity and the rest. Arabs had they little slave trade of Blacks also.
WORD. Thats what I want to hear. People don't need constructs such as religion. They should just seek wisdom in all its forms. So study religion,science, mysticism, study it all. Let all knowledge be your religion and wisdom and understanding be your goal. Thats why I like alot of the 5% stuff. I'm thinking about taking it and altering it a little, making it a lil more universal and politically correct so that all peoples can get down with it a lil more easily....maybe i can start my own cult in the Australian outback...get some shortys to come out there wit me...Muahahahahahaaaaa! Ahem. But seriously, word.
"we gotta decide...are we gonna go with the Islam...are we gonna go with the Israel...or are we gonna take the best out of both parts and just be us!?"
-Killah Priest.
Work out your own salvation. Do not depend on others.
-The Buddha.
why would you want to alter the lessons given by the father?? eye am not comprehending that at all
To make it more universal and open to all people, not just black folks. 'the Black Man is god', I would change that and say something like "the power of god is in you and all living things, the Supreme Being poured into all living vessals" or something more universal like that, it is irrelevant whether the black man is the original man or not; if all people are truly of one family. Having said that I know about ancient Ethiopia and ancient Egypt and how Africa was the cradle of civilization...does not mean I want to ignore all that. That goes for what I think about all religions, beliefs and movements though Job, I think they all at their core, at their true meaning contain a universal message once you strip away the particularities. But on the other hand, maybe religion is also suppose to represent those particularities of history, time and circumstance, maybe thats part of what it is to be human, and also essential to the evolution of our consciousness so that we may learn dignity in difference and beauty in diversity.
Anyway, I'm not really the type of person to go out and start a new quasi-religious movement, people got enough of that in the world. People need more wisdom and understanding of what they already have, not more doctrines spouted forth.
eye find that disrespecting.......and thats all eye am going to say about that
Not my problem and not my problem if you're incapable of challenging your own beliefs. Remember its not suppose to be a religion, you are not suppose to follow it with religious zealotry or sensitivity, but I see alot of people eventually do. Be your own leader. Do the knowledge for yourself instead of only drawing upon it from the designated black-friendly sources.
"Truth is truth, no matter where it comes from".
"fuck black leaders 'cus whites got none leading them"
-NaS 'Black Zombies'.
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eye dont know why Blacks fuck with Christianity or Islam. Islam is not the orginals man religion...........they forced that shit on us........just like Christians did.
read malcolm x and you understand why black people join to islam
lol at telling me to read the auto of malcolm X. Black people we need our own shit period. eye know how arabs look down on Blacks. once again islam was forced on Blacks just like christianity and the rest. Arabs had they little slave trade of Blacks also.
WORD. Thats what I want to hear. People don't need constructs such as religion. They should just seek wisdom in all its forms. So study religion,science, mysticism, study it all. Let all knowledge be your religion and wisdom and understanding be your goal. Thats why I like alot of the 5% stuff. I'm thinking about taking it and altering it a little, making it a lil more universal and politically correct so that all peoples can get down with it a lil more easily....maybe i can start my own cult in the Australian outback...get some shortys to come out there wit me...Muahahahahahaaaaa! Ahem. But seriously, word.
"we gotta decide...are we gonna go with the Islam...are we gonna go with the Israel...or are we gonna take the best out of both parts and just be us!?"
-Killah Priest.
Work out your own salvation. Do not depend on others.
-The Buddha.
why would you want to alter the lessons given by the father?? eye am not comprehending that at all
To make it more universal and open to all people, not just black folks. 'the Black Man is god', I would change that and say something like "the power of god is in you and all living things, the Supreme Being poured into all living vessals" or something more universal like that, it is irrelevant whether the black man is the original man or not; if all people are truly of one family. Having said that I know about ancient Ethiopia and ancient Egypt and how Africa was the cradle of civilization...does not mean I want to ignore all that. That goes for what I think about all religions, beliefs and movements though Job, I think they all at their core, at their true meaning contain a universal message once you strip away the particularities. But on the other hand, maybe religion is also suppose to represent those particularities of history, time and circumstance, maybe thats part of what it is to be human, and also essential to the evolution of our consciousness so that we may learn dignity in difference and beauty in diversity.
Anyway, I'm not really the type of person to go out and start a new quasi-religious movement, people got enough of that in the world. People need more wisdom and understanding of what they already have, not more doctrines spouted forth.
eye find that disrespecting.......and thats all eye am going to say about that
Not my problem and not my problem if you're incapable of challenging your own beliefs. Remember its not suppose to be a religion, you are not suppose to follow it with religious zealotry or sensitivity, but I see alot of people eventually do. Be your own leader. Do the knowledge for yourself instead of only drawing upon it from the designated black-friendly sources.
"Truth is truth, no matter where it comes from".
"fuck black leaders 'cus whites got none leading them"
-NaS 'Black Zombies'.
eye love it when white people try to change shit because it doesnt fit into they agenda. thats just pure devilish shit. and thats why you guys are devils......... talking about changing shit , so it can fit your white agenda........ fuck out of here............. so first you people want to force the concept of a white god on Blacks. eye got a good idea......why dont white people mind they own business....how about that
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hey, do you guys have to add all those chain of quotes in the posts?...
it would look better if you add just the relevant quote in reference to your post.
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eye love it when white people try to change shit because it doesnt fit into they agenda. thats just pure devilish shit. and thats why you guys are devils......... talking about changing shit , so it can fit your white agenda........ fuck out of here............. so first you people want to force the concept of a white god on Blacks. eye got a good idea......why dont white people mind they own business....how about that
You are obviously too sensitive and your mind too clouded by emotions to engage in measured debate, so as usual you revert to name calling, its sad because that really seems to demonstrate the depth of your thinking, not black people's thinking, but YOU as an individual idiot.
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eye love it when white people try to change shit because it doesnt fit into they agenda. thats just pure devilish shit. and thats why you guys are devils......... talking about changing shit , so it can fit your white agenda........ fuck out of here............. so first you people want to force the concept of a white god on Blacks. eye got a good idea......why dont white people mind they own business....how about that
You are obviously too sensitive and your mind too clouded by emotions to engage in measured debate, so as usual you revert to name calling, its sad because that really seems to demonstrate the depth of your thinking, not black people's thinking, but YOU as an individual idiot.
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eye aint calling you names. eye am just calling you by what you truly are. yo eye hate to break it to you but YOUR NOT BLACK! okay get that through your white dome. simple ass that. Your not BLACK and just mind your person when shit dont pertain to you ( white people).
just enjoy the benefits of being white.....in this white world. where you can sit back relax and collect $100 bones a week and not be called "lazy" or "uneducated" or have some type of negative connection with your color skin made. fuck out of here........
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eye love it when white people try to change shit because it doesnt fit into they agenda. thats just pure devilish shit. and thats why you guys are devils......... talking about changing shit , so it can fit your white agenda........ fuck out of here............. so first you people want to force the concept of a white god on Blacks. eye got a good idea......why dont white people mind they own business....how about that
You are obviously too sensitive and your mind too clouded by emotions to engage in measured debate, so as usual you revert to name calling, its sad because that really seems to demonstrate the depth of your thinking, not black people's thinking, but YOU as an individual idiot.
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eye aint calling you names. eye am just calling you by what you truly are. yo eye hate to break it to you but YOUR NOT BLACK! okay get that through your white dome. simple ass that. Your not BLACK and just mind your person when shit dont pertain to you ( white people).
just enjoy the benefits of being white.....in this white world. where you can sit back relax and collect $100 bones a week and not be called "lazy" or "uneducated" or have some type of negative connection with your color skin made. fuck out of here........
I am not black, but I am also not white. I am half original asiatic man, half caucazoid and being half white do you really think I grew with white kids treating me as one of their own? Don't bother playing the persecution card with me, like you are anything special. You're an idiot, nothing to do with black people, you're individual idiot. End of story.