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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Shonuff on March 11, 2009, 04:54:33 PM
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received an email below
----- Original Message -----
From: Musicmedia
To: ITB
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:08:24 PM EST
Subject: Crooked I "Say Hi To The Bad Guy" Coming Soon - Digital Download
The album you have been waiting for is about to hit the net. We will be offering exclusive Digital Download Cards for this album. A digital download card is a plastic card the size of a credit card with a unique code on the back (like a calling card) that will allow you access to the album, and any (if any) album artwork. We are designing a website now for the album and we have ordered the cards.
But Arnt You Afraid Of People Stealing The Songs?
With the every growing state of technology No because when you log into the site with your download card and download the mp3s it embeds your unique "card redeem code" in the data of the mp3 so it will be very easy to track back WHO leaked it, also with CDDATA Technology even if you BURN the mp3s to a cd your CARD ID is still embedded into the audio data file on the cd itself.
Will These Cost $50+?
Nope one download called will be 19.99 no more no less, Cards will take 3-5 days to ship since they have to be activated and registered when you purchase them.
* Stay Tuned For The Official Release Email With the Official Website To order The Download Cards
Damn technology is fucking amazing now a days... the cd is going to be obsolete soon
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you can remove the data that holds your information from the mp3 files so whoever leaks it better not be a dumbass
at least it's not DRM but still equally wack. fuck your bootleg album
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Whoa that's crazy, I never heard of anything like that before. Technology!
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you can remove the data that holds your information from the mp3 files so whoever leaks it better not be a dumbass
at least it's not DRM but still equally wack. fuck your bootleg album
Yeah, there's about 50 different ways to get around that even if it was DRM...
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Whoa that's crazy, I never heard of anything like that before. Technology!
your itunes downloads hold the same info like these bootlegging fucks are going to use.
anyone who buys this and wants to find out how to remove your information get at me.
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yea i dunno if its drm, if it embeds your data into the actual DATA of the mp3 i dont see how its possible to alter it. they aint talking like "Artist Info" in winamp which u can change it sounds like it creates the mp3 every download encoding your specific code INTO the coding of the mp3
thats some david Copperfield shit
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yea i dunno if its drm, if it embeds your data into the actual DATA of the mp3 i dont see how its possible to alter it. they aint talking like "Artist Info" in winamp which u can change it sounds like it creates the mp3 every download encoding your specific code INTO the coding of the mp3
thats some david Copperfield shit
they said the same about blu-ray and hd-dvd drm.. and it got cracked. if you can access it with a computer, it CAN be cracked. not saying it's easy or anything, but it's possible.
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Isn't it ironic that this news decides to pop up after-the-fact when WIDEawake Ent. is talking about pushing the Death Row catalogue through KOCH? ::)
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who knows, the business is about money if someone is sitting on the cd then they are gonna wait till the right time to capitalize off it. never know wideawake might be behind the digital shit
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So who is Musicmedia? I've never heard of them I'm assuming this is a separate group from FTP and Los Skanless?
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yea i dunno if its drm, if it embeds your data into the actual DATA of the mp3 i dont see how its possible to alter it. they aint talking like "Artist Info" in winamp which u can change it sounds like it creates the mp3 every download encoding your specific code INTO the coding of the mp3
thats some david Copperfield shit
Just remember this, anything that can be played can be re-ripped with very minimal loss of quality.
BTW, there's actually software out there that can remove the DRM information.
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So who is Musicmedia? I've never heard of them I'm assuming this is a separate group from FTP and Los Skanless?
Yeah my point exactly, who is this? Where were you signed up to get this info?
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Imagine what FTP & Los Skanless are thinking right now? Specifically since the WIDEawake news.
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crooked i is a pawn to my king. bawse.
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i have no idea that actually is the mailbox i use for all my newletters and spam and shit was just clearing it out and seen the email could of came from anyone
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i have no idea that actually is the mailbox i use for all my newletters and spam and shit was just clearing it out and seen the email could of came from anyone
So then there is no reason to even get hyped for this... No information or anything.
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well we did get "some" type of info, just nothing thats solid yet i guess hahaha
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well we did get "some" type of info, just nothing thats solid yet i guess hahaha
I guess, I'm just saying we don't even know the individual or company that's supposed to be selling this... Can't do much without that confirmation.
Thanks for the post though.
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Just putting it out there, but this isn't really YOU trying to get us amped to buy a bootleg from you is it... Don't be offended, had to ask.
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cant wait,hope its not another let down
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Whoever can give us the track's without TAG's, Edit's, Screamin' DJ's & Unknown Rapper's adding themself on the Song's..
Is what I'm down 4, I could give 3 fuck's who put's it out.
(From the owner's thru the artists, Been since @ least 2000, It's time to put "SHTTBG" to sleep now...)
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wtffffffffffffffffffffffffff
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EASY TO CRACK! ;D i can do that shit with protools... 8)
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EASY TO CRACK! ;D i can do that shit with protools... 8)
Pretty much.
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SMH @ The typos trying to make us think this is real... :-X
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EASY TO CRACK! ;D i can do that shit with protools... 8)
Pretty much.
You're not cracking anything. All you're doing is recording your stereo mix and if the source audio is already compressed (meaning the audio has been ripped to mp3) then when you compress it again, the quality will decrease even more.
i'd rather just remove the information from the mp3 then just recompressing a compressed file.
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EASY TO CRACK! ;D i can do that shit with protools... 8)
Pretty much.
You're not cracking anything. All you're doing is recording your stereo mix and if the source audio is already compressed (meaning the audio has been ripped to mp3) then when you compress it again, the quality will decrease even more.
i'd rather just remove the information from the mp3 then just recompressing a compressed file.
True, you could do it that way, but the alternative is just what you just said, re-recording it.
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EASY TO CRACK! ;D i can do that shit with protools... 8)
Pretty much.
You're not cracking anything. All you're doing is recording your stereo mix and if the source audio is already compressed (meaning the audio has been ripped to mp3) then when you compress it again, the quality will decrease even more.
i'd rather just remove the information from the mp3 then just recompressing a compressed file.
its not like its gonna be a big difference...
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Of course, before we think too hard about how we're going to remove any unwanted information from our mp3 files, we first have the tedious task of figuring out if this is even legitimate information; then have at least one person purchase one; then wait a few days from the date of purchase to recieve the card in the mail to retrieve the downloadable content. This whole thing sounds pretty suspect to me though. While it would be awesome if it were true, we have no other information to confirm whether this is real.
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EASY TO CRACK! ;D i can do that shit with protools... 8)
Pretty much.
You're not cracking anything. All you're doing is recording your stereo mix and if the source audio is already compressed (meaning the audio has been ripped to mp3) then when you compress it again, the quality will decrease even more.
i'd rather just remove the information from the mp3 then just recompressing a compressed file.
its not like its gonna be a big difference...
lmao.
every time you encode a file with a lossy file format ala mp3 you lose audio quality
so encoding an already compressed file over will make you lose even more quality.
here's a science experiment you can do:
take a cd that you own and rip it into 320 kbps mp3s. now burn a cd with those mp3s, and then rip that cd into 320 kbps mp3s. compare the two files in your favorite audio editor and you'll see a difference. hell, you can HEAR the difference if you listen hard enough.
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Just open the files in Cool edit, Copy & then Paste it as a new track..
Rename it & save the file in the same quality...DONE.
nope not the same quality. all you're doing is re-encoding. cool edit isn't this special program that disregards mp3s downfalls
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Even if they find out who leaked it, what the fuk they gon do?
i kno holding the material and bootleggin it doesnt mean they have the copyright
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Even if they find out who leaked it, what the fuk they gon do?
i kno holding the material and bootleggin it doesnt mean they have the copyright
True that. I find a lot of these dudes to be kind of funny in the lengths they'll go to protect their bootlegging goldmine. Half of these cats are selling overpriced CD's for nowhere near a reasonable asking price and the other half seem a bit shady to be giving money to in the first place. If they actually had good exclusive shit and were offering it at a reasonable price, they could make out well. If you had someone who was selling this stuff for the price of a normal CD with decent packaging, they could be doing alright. They'd rather try to make the most money they can off 15 or 20 idiots who are willing pay $50 then to just go the affordable route and get their money. Folks will end up being done in by their greed.
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Even if they find out who leaked it, what the fuk they gon do?
i kno holding the material and bootleggin it doesnt mean they have the copyright
Excatly, If I downloaded it Id leak and and so what?? The rest of the world gets it for free. They aint gonna do shit to me because they cant.
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if its wideawake (who owns the material) then they can sue you and send you to jail
if its a bootlegger im not sure
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Just open the files in Cool edit, Copy & then Paste it as a new track..
Rename it & save the file in the same quality...DONE.
nope not the same quality. all you're doing is re-encoding. cool edit isn't this special program that disregards mp3s downfalls
True this, not many people realize that either. It's like when people take a 96kbps and save it in 320kbps, it's not RAISING the quality. Even if I took a 320kbps, and re-encoded it at 320kbps I'm losing quality. However, it's possible to make EDITS to an MP3 without re-encoding, but that's not what we are talking about in this thread.
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lol @ this talk about the encoding,this album is not released yet and you guys talkin about how to do this and that shit...
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lol @ this talk about the encoding,this album is not released yet and you guys talkin about how to do this and that shit...
LOL, I'm not even stressing ripping it, just good conversation. 8)
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if its wideawake (who owns the material) then they can sue you and send you to jail
if its a bootlegger im not sure
That's what I was thinking. If it really was wideawake who were responsible for this message about a possible download of the album, then yeah, they really could do something about it. If it was just some bootlegger, I don't see how they could do anything. But it's all a moot point until someone can confirm this is legit.
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if its wideawake (who owns the material) then they can sue you and send you to jail
if its a bootlegger im not sure
That's what I was thinking. If it really was wideawake who were responsible for this message about a possible download of the album, then yeah, they really could do something about it. If it was just some bootlegger, I don't see how they could do anything. But it's all a moot point until someone can confirm this is legit.
If it's a legitimate release by WIDEawake I'll support it cause they actually trying to get the music to the fans.
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(http://mahopa.de/bilder/funny-forum-pictures/china-rice-bag-fallen-over.jpg)
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I don't believe it. More taunting.
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this will be a scam too
Msg to Josh aka Kilo aka DTG Ent aka FTP aka 1O1 (12-3-09) (http://www.zshare.net/video/56931099d3266a2d/)
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if its wideawake (who owns the material) then they can sue you and send you to jail
if its a bootlegger im not sure
That's what I was thinking. If it really was wideawake who were responsible for this message about a possible download of the album, then yeah, they really could do something about it. If it was just some bootlegger, I don't see how they could do anything. But it's all a moot point until someone can confirm this is legit.
If it's a legitimate release by WIDEawake I'll support it cause they actually trying to get the music to the fans.
Oh, me too, for sure. But I also think if it was WIDEawake, they would have made it more clear in that message, that it was WIDEawake. Unfortunately, I think this may turn out to be nothing.
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if its wideawake (who owns the material) then they can sue you and send you to jail
if its a bootlegger im not sure
That's what I was thinking. If it really was wideawake who were responsible for this message about a possible download of the album, then yeah, they really could do something about it. If it was just some bootlegger, I don't see how they could do anything. But it's all a moot point until someone can confirm this is legit.
If it's a legitimate release by WIDEawake I'll support it cause they actually trying to get the music to the fans.
Oh, me too, for sure. But I also think if it was WIDEawake, they would have made it more clear in that message, that it was WIDEawake. Unfortunately, I think this may turn out to be nothing.
Yeah, it sounds like some false hype to me too...
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this will be a scam too
Msg to Josh aka Kilo aka DTG Ent aka FTP aka 1O1 (12-3-09) (http://www.zshare.net/video/56931099d3266a2d/)
LMAO this dude is taking e-bangin' to the next level.
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I'm content with waiting for the WIDEawake/KOCH announcement about the Death Row digital download site that they mentioned in the press release. I'd rather pay for a legitimate copy.
Not saying I wouldn't download a bootleg copy if it was floating around on the net, but I ain't gonna pay for a bootleg. Either way though, if and when WIDEawake gets that Death Row digital store up and running, I'll be copping.
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this will be a scam too
Msg to Josh aka Kilo aka DTG Ent aka FTP aka 1O1 (12-3-09) (http://www.zshare.net/video/56931099d3266a2d/)
LMAO this dude is taking e-bangin' to the next level.
yea someone needs to pick up the phone LOL....
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this will be a scam too
Msg to Josh aka Kilo aka DTG Ent aka FTP aka 1O1 (12-3-09) (http://www.zshare.net/video/56931099d3266a2d/)
LMAO this dude is taking e-bangin' to the next level.
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ok so i emailed them back last night and asked a few questions, the didnt email me right back until today. im going to post my email 1st then there response. there email is musicmediallc@gmail.com if you want any info im sure they will give it. it looks like it is the wideawake ent
----- Original Message -----
From: ITB
To: Musicmedia
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:32:11 PM EST
Subject: Re: Crooked I "Say Hi To The Bad Guy" Coming Soon - Digital Download
Hey im glad you emailed me, and tho im excited about the release of this album i do have a few questions if you dont mind.
1) how did you get the album? Any tracklist yet? We know crooked i recorded hundreds of songs for the album what ones will be on the cd
2) who is behind this release? we have seen a few people come and go trying to release this cd with nothing ever surfacing.
3) when is the release date? is it JUST digital with there be cds pressed up?
I hope you can answer my questions as im sure you are going to be bombarded with them once this thing goes live!
----- Original Message -----
From: Musicmedia
To: ITB
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:27:52 PM EST
Subject: Re: Re: Crooked I "Say Hi To The Bad Guy" Coming Soon - Digital Download
Hey thanks for emailing us, sorry it took us a few to get back to you but as you can imagine we are running around trying to get some things ready (some big things)!
First off let me tell you who we are, we are a Media company based in Canada we deal in mobile and digital content and the marketing and promotions of that content. We were hired by WIDEawake Entertainment Group to work on the releases they have acquired in the sale of death row records. The route they are taking to get the aquired material out is this concept of digital download cards. Its cost effective, cheap and direct to consumer. As of now the tracklist and the website to purchase the album is under tight lip but I assure you the release is sooner then later.
If you have any more questions please feel free to email me.
Adam Bouchard
Music Media LLC
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I appreciate you taking the time to follow this up with us, so you still don't know how you got on their mailing list though?
You must remember doing it some where?
BTW: If they are a legit company I do find it strange that there is no reference to them on Google anywhere...
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i figured it was 1) i emailed wideawake few weeks ago or 2) they are a marketing company they can get email address for people who like certain things. I dont sign up for mailing lists so i know its not a mailing list im on. I would only assume its because i have emailed wideawake when i heard they purchased deathrow
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i found a music media in romania
http://www.kftv.com/company-a47652333.html
and you never know they could be another company doing business as another name, their parent company might be something different, or they merged with wideawake and started this llc who knows who cares
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I'm just curious as to how the project is being handled that's all, it's interesting...
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i found a music media in romania
http://www.kftv.com/company-a47652333.html
and you never know they could be another company doing business as another name, their parent company might be something different, or they merged with wideawake and started this llc who knows who cares
wow pretty fucking amazing the biggest con man on the forum is the ONLY one who's heard of this and the ONLY one to receive these emails ::)
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i found a music media in romania
http://www.kftv.com/company-a47652333.html
and you never know they could be another company doing business as another name, their parent company might be something different, or they merged with wideawake and started this llc who knows who cares
wow pretty fucking amazing the biggest con man on the forum is the ONLY who's heard of this and the ONLY one to receive these emails ::)
That's the only thing I'm saying and that's why I asked it earler.
Shonuff, I don't know you homie, but from what I've read in other posts I had to be skeptical. It just isn't adding up right now. Only time will tell.
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wow ima con man? who did i CON?
i think the 100 or so people who ordered from ITB got there cds, theres dozens of ppl here who can vouch for that jackass. there were 3 ppl who ordered a dvd that didnt come threw and 1 was already refunded.
Trust me gay ass dante and faggot ass FTP have done WORSE then that
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Don't think it's a scam guys, I just contacted them by e-mail and they confirmed that it will be available on iTunes and Napster as well... I'm probably going to try to contact someone from WIDEawake and try to get a confirmation as well that it's a legitimate deal. Probably hit them up in the morning.
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Don't think it's a scam guys, I just contacted them by e-mail and they confirmed that it will be available on iTunes and Napster as well... I'm probably going to try to contact someone from WIDEawake and try to get a confirmation as well that it's a legitimate deal. Probably hit them up in the morning.
ummmm hello don't u think a legitimate company would be using their own domain name and not a gmail account to handle their business related emails?? i mean i could have set up that email use your head dummies
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Don't think it's a scam guys, I just contacted them by e-mail and they confirmed that it will be available on iTunes and Napster as well... I'm probably going to try to contact someone from WIDEawake and try to get a confirmation as well that it's a legitimate deal. Probably hit them up in the morning.
ummmm hello don't u think a legitimate company would be using their own domain name and not a gmail account to handle their business related emails?? i mean i could have set up that email use your head dummies
Chill out homie, all I'm doing is spreading the word. Like I said, if it WAS a bootleg, it wouldn't be on iTunes, period. So, if it drops on iTunes we know it's legit. Furthermore, I'm going to clear it up with WIDEawake in the morning most likely, so we'll see what they say about it.
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I don't know. This may actually be the real deal. Let me see if I can contact them. I'll try to press them for info on a release date.
**Effex or Shonuff, which e-mail address did you use to contact them? I don't see one in the above messages.
***nevermind, I see it. lol
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I don't know. This may actually be the real deal. Let me see if I can contact them. I'll try to press them for info on a release date.
**Effex or Shonuff, which e-mail address did you use to contact them? I don't see one in the above messages.
musicmediallc@gmail.com is the group that is in question...
I just contacted the new Death Row division of WIDEawake through e-mail and will see if they respond with any confirmation, if not maybe a phone call in the morning. Long distance or not, I just want to get to the bottom of this before fans get scammed.
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I just sent them an e-mail. We'll see what happens. It sounds like it may be on the level, but you never know. Until we see the actual album up for download or get confirmation from Wideawake, we really won't know.
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damn you tryna get this album for real haha
I don't know. This may actually be the real deal. Let me see if I can contact them. I'll try to press them for info on a release date.
**Effex or Shonuff, which e-mail address did you use to contact them? I don't see one in the above messages.
musicmediallc@gmail.com is the group that is in question...
I just contacted the new Death Row division of WIDEawake through e-mail and will see if they respond with any confirmation, if not maybe a phone call in the morning. Long distance or not, I just want to get to the bottom of this before fans get scammed.
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damn you tryna get this album for real haha
I don't know. This may actually be the real deal. Let me see if I can contact them. I'll try to press them for info on a release date.
**Effex or Shonuff, which e-mail address did you use to contact them? I don't see one in the above messages.
musicmediallc@gmail.com is the group that is in question...
I just contacted the new Death Row division of WIDEawake through e-mail and will see if they respond with any confirmation, if not maybe a phone call in the morning. Long distance or not, I just want to get to the bottom of this before fans get scammed.
Why not? Should be pretty hot... I know I'm not the only one interested, so if I could clear up a few things for other fans it's not a big deal for me to check out the situation.
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yeah nah thats waz up
jus see you dont give up on gettin what your tryna get
in this case the crooked album
but yeah alotta cats want that album
dont know after hearin some of the traxx, not that hyped up bout it
damn you tryna get this album for real haha
I don't know. This may actually be the real deal. Let me see if I can contact them. I'll try to press them for info on a release date.
**Effex or Shonuff, which e-mail address did you use to contact them? I don't see one in the above messages.
musicmediallc@gmail.com is the group that is in question...
I just contacted the new Death Row division of WIDEawake through e-mail and will see if they respond with any confirmation, if not maybe a phone call in the morning. Long distance or not, I just want to get to the bottom of this before fans get scammed.
Why not? Should be pretty hot... I know I'm not the only one interested, so if I could clear up a few things for other fans it's not a big deal for me to check out the situation.
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yeah nah thats waz up
jus see you dont give up on gettin what your tryna get
in this case the crooked album
but yeah alotta cats want that album
dont know after hearin some of the traxx, not that hyped up bout it
damn you tryna get this album for real haha
I don't know. This may actually be the real deal. Let me see if I can contact them. I'll try to press them for info on a release date.
**Effex or Shonuff, which e-mail address did you use to contact them? I don't see one in the above messages.
musicmediallc@gmail.com is the group that is in question...
I just contacted the new Death Row division of WIDEawake through e-mail and will see if they respond with any confirmation, if not maybe a phone call in the morning. Long distance or not, I just want to get to the bottom of this before fans get scammed.
Why not? Should be pretty hot... I know I'm not the only one interested, so if I could clear up a few things for other fans it's not a big deal for me to check out the situation.
Yeah, to be perfectly honest... The tracks "Bitch" and "I'm So Crooked" weren't his BEST, but they weren't wack either. There were so many tracks recorded that who really knows what is meant to be on the project and what isn't.
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yeah but im lookin at it like this, ima be patient and jus wait til everything leaks, im guessin it will
by the looks of it, its not worth me coppin it otherwise i would if it were for sale
yeah nah thats waz up
jus see you dont give up on gettin what your tryna get
in this case the crooked album
but yeah alotta cats want that album
dont know after hearin some of the traxx, not that hyped up bout it
damn you tryna get this album for real haha
I don't know. This may actually be the real deal. Let me see if I can contact them. I'll try to press them for info on a release date.
**Effex or Shonuff, which e-mail address did you use to contact them? I don't see one in the above messages.
musicmediallc@gmail.com is the group that is in question...
I just contacted the new Death Row division of WIDEawake through e-mail and will see if they respond with any confirmation, if not maybe a phone call in the morning. Long distance or not, I just want to get to the bottom of this before fans get scammed.
Why not? Should be pretty hot... I know I'm not the only one interested, so if I could clear up a few things for other fans it's not a big deal for me to check out the situation.
Yeah, to be perfectly honest... The tracks "Bitch" and "I'm So Crooked" weren't his BEST, but they weren't wack either. There were so many tracks recorded that who really knows what is meant to be on the project and what isn't.
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yeah nah thats waz up
jus see you dont give up on gettin what your tryna get
in this case the crooked album
but yeah alotta cats want that album
dont know after hearin some of the traxx, not that hyped up bout it
damn you tryna get this album for real haha
I don't know. This may actually be the real deal. Let me see if I can contact them. I'll try to press them for info on a release date.
**Effex or Shonuff, which e-mail address did you use to contact them? I don't see one in the above messages.
musicmediallc@gmail.com is the group that is in question...
I just contacted the new Death Row division of WIDEawake through e-mail and will see if they respond with any confirmation, if not maybe a phone call in the morning. Long distance or not, I just want to get to the bottom of this before fans get scammed.
Why not? Should be pretty hot... I know I'm not the only one interested, so if I could clear up a few things for other fans it's not a big deal for me to check out the situation.
Yeah, to be perfectly honest... The tracks "Bitch" and "I'm So Crooked" weren't his BEST, but they weren't wack either. There were so many tracks recorded that who really knows what is meant to be on the project and what isn't.
From the sound of those snippets I doubt those were the best tracks on there. I was really looking forward to hearing the "Me and My Dog" track, and of course "The Slap Back."
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yeah slap back, if in fact thats a real song sounds dope
jus another banger possibly to add to the best of the best disses from the them days
no vaseline paryt 2
yall hoes (tha row)
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Already received an e-mail back from Music Media LLC. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get much more out of them than what was already posted here. But for what it's worth, here's the response from them in it's entirety...
Hi Jon, yes we have joined forces with WIDEawake to release the death row catalog. The 1st release being Crooked I's Album. As of right now the track listing is being selected and the website for the album is being created. Im sure WIDEawake and the artist himself appreciate your support since this has been a long time coming. As far as the album details, what I can say is the album will be a digital album released on iTunes, napster, and all the other digital services. WIDEawake is also going to do a selling of Digital Download cards (the size of credit cards) before the actual album hits the digital retail market, this way the dedicated fans can get the digital release before its officially released in the digital market.
We would appreciate your support for the project in the coming weeks, and will add your email to our mailing list to update you when the site is "live" for people to order the download cards.
Adam Bouchard
Music Media LLC
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Already received an e-mail back from Music Media LLC. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get much more out of them than what was already posted here. But for what it's worth, here's the response from them in it's entirety...
Hi Jon, yes we have joined forces with WIDEawake to release the death row catalog. The 1st release being Crooked I's Album. As of right now the track listing is being selected and the website for the album is being created. Im sure WIDEawake and the artist himself appreciate your support since this has been a long time coming. As far as the album details, what I can say is the album will be a digital album released on iTunes, napster, and all the other digital services. WIDEawake is also going to do a selling of Digital Download cards (the size of credit cards) before the actual album hits the digital retail market, this way the dedicated fans can get the digital release before its officially released in the digital market.
We would appreciate your support for the project in the coming weeks, and will add your email to our mailing list to update you when the site is "live" for people to order the download cards.
Adam Bouchard
Music Media LLC
Almost a cut and paste of what I got from them, I'm still waiting back to hear from WIDEawake, but they are most likely out of the office at this point, probably gotta wait till tomorrow.
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Already received an e-mail back from Music Media LLC. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get much more out of them than what was already posted here. But for what it's worth, here's the response from them in it's entirety...
Hi Jon, yes we have joined forces with WIDEawake to release the death row catalog. The 1st release being Crooked I's Album. As of right now the track listing is being selected and the website for the album is being created. Im sure WIDEawake and the artist himself appreciate your support since this has been a long time coming. As far as the album details, what I can say is the album will be a digital album released on iTunes, napster, and all the other digital services. WIDEawake is also going to do a selling of Digital Download cards (the size of credit cards) before the actual album hits the digital retail market, this way the dedicated fans can get the digital release before its officially released in the digital market.
We would appreciate your support for the project in the coming weeks, and will add your email to our mailing list to update you when the site is "live" for people to order the download cards.
Adam Bouchard
Music Media LLC
Almost a cut and paste of what I got from them, I'm still waiting back to hear from WIDEawake, but they are most likely out of the office at this point, probably gotta wait till tomorrow.
Yeah. That's one thing that makes me have some reservations about this deal. The fact that I received a response to my e-mail this quickly, and after normal business hours. I'm not completely discounting the possiblity, but what we have so far, is far from solid evidence. I tried to do a google search as well, and turned up nothing. I even gave the Wideawake website a second look and could find no mention of Music Media LLC or Adam Bouchard. That's not to say that Wideawake didn't contact them after their latest website update, to handle the digital distribution of their Death Row material, but as I said, it's just too hard to tell at this point. Because Wideawake was supposed to make an announcement sometime this week, regarding their handling of the Death Row Records catalog, you can't rule this out, entirely. Hopefully, you get some kind of answer from Wideawake tomorrow, Effex.
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haha fuckin accouncements
all of em are fake as fuck
whether its from a label, a rapper (most), fuckin president
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Already received an e-mail back from Music Media LLC. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get much more out of them than what was already posted here. But for what it's worth, here's the response from them in it's entirety...
Hi Jon, yes we have joined forces with WIDEawake to release the death row catalog. The 1st release being Crooked I's Album. As of right now the track listing is being selected and the website for the album is being created. Im sure WIDEawake and the artist himself appreciate your support since this has been a long time coming. As far as the album details, what I can say is the album will be a digital album released on iTunes, napster, and all the other digital services. WIDEawake is also going to do a selling of Digital Download cards (the size of credit cards) before the actual album hits the digital retail market, this way the dedicated fans can get the digital release before its officially released in the digital market.
We would appreciate your support for the project in the coming weeks, and will add your email to our mailing list to update you when the site is "live" for people to order the download cards.
Adam Bouchard
Music Media LLC
Almost a cut and paste of what I got from them, I'm still waiting back to hear from WIDEawake, but they are most likely out of the office at this point, probably gotta wait till tomorrow.
Yeah. That's one thing that makes me have some reservations about this deal. The fact that I received a response to my e-mail this quickly, and after normal business hours. I'm not completely discounting the possiblity, but what we have so far, is far from solid evidence. I tried to do a google search as well, and turned up nothing. I even gave the Wideawake website a second look and could find no mention of Music Media LLC or Adam Bouchard. That's not to say that Wideawake didn't contact them after their latest website update, to handle the digital distribution of their Death Row material, but as I said, it's just too hard to tell at this point. Because Wideawake was supposed to make an announcement sometime this week, regarding their handling of the Death Row Records catalog, you can't rule this out, entirely. Hopefully, you get some kind of answer from Wideawake tomorrow, Effex.
LOL, WIDEawake gonna be like "WTF are you talking about? Music Media LLC!?"
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Already received an e-mail back from Music Media LLC. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get much more out of them than what was already posted here. But for what it's worth, here's the response from them in it's entirety...
Hi Jon, yes we have joined forces with WIDEawake to release the death row catalog. The 1st release being Crooked I's Album. As of right now the track listing is being selected and the website for the album is being created. Im sure WIDEawake and the artist himself appreciate your support since this has been a long time coming. As far as the album details, what I can say is the album will be a digital album released on iTunes, napster, and all the other digital services. WIDEawake is also going to do a selling of Digital Download cards (the size of credit cards) before the actual album hits the digital retail market, this way the dedicated fans can get the digital release before its officially released in the digital market.
We would appreciate your support for the project in the coming weeks, and will add your email to our mailing list to update you when the site is "live" for people to order the download cards.
Adam Bouchard
Music Media LLC
Almost a cut and paste of what I got from them, I'm still waiting back to hear from WIDEawake, but they are most likely out of the office at this point, probably gotta wait till tomorrow.
Yeah. That's one thing that makes me have some reservations about this deal. The fact that I received a response to my e-mail this quickly, and after normal business hours. I'm not completely discounting the possiblity, but what we have so far, is far from solid evidence. I tried to do a google search as well, and turned up nothing. I even gave the Wideawake website a second look and could find no mention of Music Media LLC or Adam Bouchard. That's not to say that Wideawake didn't contact them after their latest website update, to handle the digital distribution of their Death Row material, but as I said, it's just too hard to tell at this point. Because Wideawake was supposed to make an announcement sometime this week, regarding their handling of the Death Row Records catalog, you can't rule this out, entirely. Hopefully, you get some kind of answer from Wideawake tomorrow, Effex.
LOL, WIDEawake gonna be like "WTF are you talking about? Music Media LLC!?"
Lol. Oh well...even if they do act like that, we'll all at least know for sure. I'm hoping for the best, but honestly I think our chances of this turning out to be real are about 50/50 at best. But however it turns out, we know at least, that Wideawake are planning to open a website where they'll be selling tracks like this, digitally. So even if this particular incident doesn't pan out, I think the material is still soon-to-be released.
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and if not then lets all smoke some weedi and get fuckedi up
*bumps black superman*
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Something seems fishy here. Maybe it's just a strange coincidence but Shonuff and Adam Bouchard seem to both use commas quite a bit when not needed. Maybe I'm crazy though. What do yall think?
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wow....dude said it cant be real he uses commas lol
how bout we wait till someone gets a word from wideawake to say anything you might look like an idiot
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Yeah, I'm going to reserve judgement until I hear from Effex. I got my fingers crossed.
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No word from them yet, but I'm not sure what part of Canada they are located in. I'll wait a little longer before I try to contact them further.
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No word from them yet, but I'm not sure what part of Canada they are located in. I'll wait a little longer before I try to contact them further.
Me neither. Their offices might not be open yet.
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wow....dude said it cant be real he uses commas lol
how bout we wait till someone gets a word from wideawake to say anything you might look like an idiot
I didn't say that it can't be real. I said it seemed fishy. It's not that you are both using commas. You both use them in the place of a period at the end of some of your sentences. Example.
WIDEawake is also going to do a selling of Digital Download cards (the size of credit cards) before the actual album hits the digital retail market, this way the dedicated fans can get the digital release before its officially released in the digital market.
i think the 100 or so people who ordered from ITB got there cds, theres dozens of ppl here who can vouch for that jackass.
Hi Jon, yes we have joined forces with WIDEawake to release the death row catalog. The 1st release being Crooked I's Album.
im going to post my email 1st then there response.
You and Adam Bouchard have very similar spelling and grammar styles. As far as the Wideawake deal goes, is that really here or there? I never said or implied that either one of you did not, legally or otherwise, have a Crooked I project. I'm bringing up what it seems like an odd coincidence to me. If it is, no harm, no foul.
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wow....dude said it cant be real he uses commas lol
how bout we wait till someone gets a word from wideawake to say anything you might look like an idiot
I didn't say that it can't be real. I said it seemed fishy. It's not that you are both using commas. You both use them in the place of a period at the end of some of your sentences. Example.
WIDEawake is also going to do a selling of Digital Download cards (the size of credit cards) before the actual album hits the digital retail market, this way the dedicated fans can get the digital release before its officially released in the digital market.
i think the 100 or so people who ordered from ITB got there cds, theres dozens of ppl here who can vouch for that jackass.
Hi Jon, yes we have joined forces with WIDEawake to release the death row catalog. The 1st release being Crooked I's Album.
im going to post my email 1st then there response.
You and Adam Bouchard have very similar spelling and grammar styles. As far as the Wideawake deal goes, is that really here or there? I never said or implied that either one of you did not, legally or otherwise, have a Crooked I project. I'm bringing up what it seems like an odd coincidence to me. If it is, no harm, no foul.
I noticed everything you mentioned here homie. The errors in spelling and grammar are almost red flags.
I'm hoping that WIDEawake gets back to me soon so we can bury this thread if need be.
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Regardless of how this turns out, I was hoping we'd hear something about the announcement by Wideawake, as one was supposed to be made no later than tomorrow. I'm not sure about this whole Music Media LLC thing, but there was supposed to be something announced regarding their actual Death Row website, including information about the inclusion of downloadable unreleased tracks. I don't know....maybe we'll hear something tomorrow.
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Regardless of how this turns out, I was hoping we'd hear something about the announcement by Wideawake, as one was supposed to be made no later than tomorrow. I'm not sure about this whole Music Media LLC thing, but there was supposed to be something announced regarding their actual Death Row website, including information about the inclusion of downloadable unreleased tracks. I don't know....maybe we'll hear something tomorrow.
Hopefully, I know that they are doing a series of interviews throughout the week/weekend, so maybe they'll wait until after that to make some official statements. They seem to be pretty organized with how they handle their business. Then again, anything is better than Suge at this point.
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Here...found this on another forum. Hope this wasn't the big announcement, because it's still pretty vague.
http://www.thestar.com/article/601540
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Here...found this on another forum. Hope this wasn't the big announcement, because it's still pretty vague.
http://www.thestar.com/article/601540
I think it's just one interview of many to come. Props for finding that though!
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lameeeeee
why cant that sheet leak
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Here...found this on another forum. Hope this wasn't the big announcement, because it's still pretty vague.
http://www.thestar.com/article/601540
I think it's just one interview of many to come. Props for finding that though!
I hope so. Looking over the announcement on their website, it looked to me like they were planning on going more into specifics. For example:
Ms. Lavi and her team plan to make several key announcements during this year’s CMW conference. Some of these announcements include:
The company’s plans for foreign distribution, publishing and merchandising of the Death
Row assets. These also include the company’s plans to build a special Death Row online
portal where fans can download never before released Death Row music, watch Death
Row TV, participate in contests and dialog with fellow fans world wide.
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Okay. I'd say this is the last day for this. This is the last day that Wideawake is supposed to be holding press conferences, this week. I'd say unless there's an anouncement specifically relating to this digital Crooked I release, we can probably officially put the "FAKE" stamp on this. If there was a digital release that eminent, there would be some kind of announcement. Not to mention the fact that virtually no one was sent e-mails regarding this. Damn shame....seems like this is going to turn out to be a bigger waste of time than the actual preorders were.
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I mean, I'm sure that Crooked I's material is going to come out eventually through WIDEawake, but I don't think THIS is the specific announcement we are waiting for in regards to that release. This seems like complete bs to me the more time goes by...
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I'm going to say this is bullshit. For one I think WideAWAKE will want to make a splash with their 1st release, for 1, selling a Crooked I album is not doing that, and 2 offering it up for digital download only is even worse. I'm sure their new distribution partner Koch wouldn't like that idea either, then what would be the point in having them? I think they'll try and get out a big name 1st.
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I mean, I'm sure that Crooked I's material is going to come out eventually through WIDEawake, but I don't think THIS is the specific announcement we are waiting for in regards to that release. This seems like complete bs to me the more time goes by...
Yeah...Has to be bullshit. There's no way WIDEawake will put out this album with absolutely zero fanfare. There will have to be some kind of promotion before they put it up for sale. Initially because of the timing of these mysterious e-mails and when WIDEawake was supposed to have these series of press conferences, I thought this might have some chance of being legit. But it seems as though they're done with any announcements for the week and their website is evidently not ready. So I'm calling "bullshit." I wouldn't be surprised though, to see a fake version of "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" go up on Amazon.com and Itunes next to it's "One Nation" counter-part.
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I Told Y'all All That Bitching Would Fuck Up The Los Skanless Project....
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I mean, I'm sure that Crooked I's material is going to come out eventually through WIDEawake, but I don't think THIS is the specific announcement we are waiting for in regards to that release. This seems like complete bs to me the more time goes by...
Yeah...Has to be bullshit. There's no way WIDEawake will put out this album with absolutely zero fanfare. There will have to be some kind of promotion before they put it up for sale. Initially because of the timing of these mysterious e-mails and when WIDEawake was supposed to have these series of press conferences, I thought this might have some chance of being legit. But it seems as though they're done with any announcements for the week and their website is evidently not ready. So I'm calling "bullshit." I wouldn't be surprised though, to see a fake version of "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" go up on Amazon.com and Itunes next to it's "One Nation" counter-part.
you are right they do have to recoup 18million dollars so just pushing out music i don't think is in their best interest and no telling what they have or don't have
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I Told Y'all All That Bitching Would Fuck Up The Los Skanless Project....
Los Skanless fucked up the Los Skanless project.
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I Told Y'all All That Bitching Would Fuck Up The Los Skanless Project....
Los Skanless fucked up the Los Skanless project.
The thing is, we know Los Skanless isn't the only one who has it. It's frustrating that no one out there is interested in selling it. Real people, I mean. Not make-believe companies.
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yea honestly we know the guy who sold Losskans the cd didnt sell him the ONLY copy, so i dunno why homies not trying to Capitoline off it now. LIKE I SAID IF YOU GOT THE CROOKED I CD EMAIL ME, PM ME, WHATEVER... I WILL RELEASE IT ALL OVER, PRESS IT Up, STICK IT IN STORES, YOU WILL MAKE ASHITLOAD OF MONEY
PLAIN AND SIMPLE
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I Told Y'all All That Bitching Would Fuck Up The Los Skanless Project....
It's too bad I can't care any less about the situation. The only person who got butt hurt was LSN when he found out no one wanted to buy his bullshit.
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I Told Y'all All That Bitching Would Fuck Up The Los Skanless Project....
It's too bad I can't care any less about the situation. The only person who got butt hurt was LSN when he found out no one wanted to buy his bullshit.
That's actually the truth. Lol.
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yea honestly we know the guy who sold Losskans the cd didnt sell him the ONLY copy, so i dunno why homies not trying to Capitoline off it now. LIKE I SAID IF YOU GOT THE CROOKED I CD EMAIL ME, PM ME, WHATEVER... I WILL RELEASE IT ALL OVER, PRESS IT Up, STICK IT IN STORES, YOU WILL MAKE ASHITLOAD OF MONEY
PLAIN AND SIMPLE
No disrespect to you homie, but forget all that, someone needs to just leak it. Forget making money off someone else's work, especially if your a fan.
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Unfortunately that's what has kept it unleaked for this long. Every time it's changed hands, huge sums of money seem to be involved. No one wants to leak it because they've invested so much of their own money into it. That's why it's unfortunate things didn't work out with Los Skanless. I was hoping it was finally go from one person paying a shit load of cash to many people, each paying a small amount.
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Unfortunately that's what has kept it unleaked for this long. Every time it's changed hands, huge sums of money seem to be involved. No one wants to leak it because they've invested so much of their own money into it. That's why it's unfortunate things didn't work out with Los Skanless. I was hoping it was finally go from one person paying a shit load of cash to many people, each paying a small amount.
MY POINT EXACTLY, SINCE IT WASN'T THEM SPENDING A MASS AMOUNT OF CASH THEN THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT....LOS HAD GOOD INTENTIONS....BUT THE HATERS AND BITCHEZ GOT HIM TO CHANGE HIS MIND....
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Unfortunately that's what has kept it unleaked for this long. Every time it's changed hands, huge sums of money seem to be involved. No one wants to leak it because they've invested so much of their own money into it. That's why it's unfortunate things didn't work out with Los Skanless. I was hoping it was finally go from one person paying a shit load of cash to many people, each paying a small amount.
MY POINT EXACTLY, SINCE IT WASN'T THEM SPENDING A MASS AMOUNT OF CASH THEN THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT....LOS HAD GOOD INTENTIONS....BUT THE HATERS AND BITCHEZ GOT HIM TO CHANGE HIS MIND....
Yeah. There were a lot of people disappointed with how it was handled, but playing devil's advocate, there's no way he could have made everyone happy. Everyone thought he should have handled it a different way. That's human nature, I suppose. But there's no way he could have pleased everyone.
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yea honestly we know the guy who sold Losskans the cd didnt sell him the ONLY copy, so i dunno why homies not trying to Capitoline off it now. LIKE I SAID IF YOU GOT THE CROOKED I CD EMAIL ME, PM ME, WHATEVER... I WILL RELEASE IT ALL OVER, PRESS IT Up, STICK IT IN STORES, YOU WILL MAKE ASHITLOAD OF MONEY
PLAIN AND SIMPLE
But how does anyone know this? It seems like every project outside of the stuff you put out on your label has been stuff you're selling through your own site. I only know what I've read and heard from certain situations and maybe it's all lies but perception becomes reality in a lot of cases when it comes to business. A lot of things don't add up. Crooked I is supposedly someone that you are in contact with yet you're out here asking for people on the Net to leak his Death Row stuff to you? If he's getting paid and you can find your way around the legalities of releasing this material, why aren't the two of you breaking bread right now? There's money to be made. Why you don't throw the "Block Obama" mixtape he was giving out for all the DJ's to host out there in the stores and make your money? The people want some pressed Crooked and if y'all are tight, he ain't gonna give you crap for releasing it to the stores.
I mean, I asked you about the stores and never really got an answer. I checked Amazon and most of the stuff you were selling before is listed as "discontinued by the manufacturer". E-Bay, which is just one big free market but doesn't allow sales of bootlegs has none of your stuff. Presumably, the only place to buy this shit is through your page which looks like it was taken down.
I'm not trying to be a dick here but outside of buying directly from you, where is one place that I can legally purchase pressed copies of any of that stuff you were selling at your website like the Petey Pablo Death Row album and the "Inside Deathrow" DVD's? Anyone that is potentially give you the Crooked I material would want to know this as it would give some indication of the availability of it. From where I stand, it seems like you sell stuff for a couple of months until someone comes along with a "cease and desist" order and then removes it. If you want someone to hook you up with Crooked's tracks, you should at least disclose something tangible to suggest that you're a legit businessman and not just some con man whose selling pressed bootlegs for profit.
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thankls for ya input but its not as it seems sometimes
let me touch on the crooked i cd, 1st and foremost crook is my homie, has been for a few... i brokered a few deals with him (one being the GMG deal they offered him that we turned down). Crook doesnt have allot of his deathrow material. and from what he told me at the time it was something he wasnt interested in getting involved with, of course if i did get it and did make money he wasnt gonna complain about getting checks but he just didnt wanna get involved at the time.
as far as ITB releases, the shit in the bank was selling was strictly on IN THE BANKs website. We didn't press up hundreds of cds to put them in the stores. our main objective was to just sell on ITB website. As for Inside death row vol 1 being in stores we do plan on that. we had it preped for instore sales but we ended up leaving the distributor that we had and got a new 1. thats why the listing on amazon says "Discontinued" trust me when we release it it will be everywhere
I mean we have dozens of cds IN STORES worldwide (Stores like best buy, target, fye, virgin music stores and more) Albums from Cyssero, Omillio Sparks, Roscoe and the Armory Gang. If the one nation album does well digitally im sure they will press it up and put it in stores as well.The reason every release AINT in stores well.... it costs money for shelf space, retail co-op marketing its not as easy as sending a box of cds and saying "Put this on the floor"
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thankls for ya input but its not as it seems sometimes
let me touch on the crooked i cd, 1st and foremost crook is my homie, has been for a few... i brokered a few deals with him (one being the GMG deal they offered him that we turned down). Crook doesnt have allot of his deathrow material. and from what he told me at the time it was something he wasnt interested in getting involved with, of course if i did get it and did make money he wasnt gonna complain about getting checks but he just didnt wanna get involved at the time.
as far as ITB releases, the shit in the bank was selling was strictly on IN THE BANKs website. We didn't press up hundreds of cds to put them in the stores. our main objective was to just sell on ITB website. As for Inside death row vol 1 being in stores we do plan on that. we had it preped for instore sales but we ended up leaving the distributor that we had and got a new 1. thats why the listing on amazon says "Discontinued" trust me when we release it it will be everywhere
I mean we have dozens of cds IN STORES worldwide (Stores like best buy, target, fye, virgin music stores and more) Albums from Cyssero, Omillio Sparks, Roscoe and the Armory Gang. If the one nation album does well digitally im sure they will press it up and put it in stores as well.The reason every release AINT in stores well.... it costs money for shelf space, retail co-op marketing its not as easy as sending a box of cds and saying "Put this on the floor"
Well, I think Los Skanless had mentioned the possiblity fo selling the cd to a single buyer if the project fell through. I suppose you could make him an offer. He may still be interested in making his money back...I don't know. For that matter you could contact the people at FTP I think John Hyland is the person who runs it. I'm not sure how receptive they'll be because I think if they had just kept their project up for sale, they could've made good money. They were only charging $10.99, so the price wasn't bad. But it seems like they may be more interested in net fame than money. I think Kay aka Que has this album too, but I doubt he'll sell it. He doesn't seem like he's ever been interested in selling it. After that, I'd say try contacting the producers who worked on the album. I doubt that it's always the case, but it seems like a lot of times they keep copies of the songs they worked on. I don't know how you'd contact them, but if you have inside connections, you might.
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How are people going to say "Oh he needs to make his money back it makes no sense to leak it."
What's he doing now? Sitting on it playing it in his bedroom, he tried selling it, couldn't do it, now leak it. That simple. Or sell it and leak it. Simple.
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BTW, if Crook was your homie, Snonuff, you'd know he has said so many times now that Say Hi To The Bad Guy is NOT coming out until Boss or his official retail album drops. Period. I know this for a fact.
So, if you do sell it before then, I don't see how you are acting on Crook's behalf.
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How are people going to say "Oh he needs to make his money back it makes no sense to leak it."
What's he doing now? Sitting on it playing it in his bedroom, he tried selling it, couldn't do it, now leak it. That simple. Or sell it and leak it. Simple.
Well, I have no idea what he's doing with it. lol If it was me, I would want to make my money back. But that's why I was apprehensive about buying it, to begin with. We know Deathrow'sFinest was going to put it on ebay for $1300. So we know, he didn't let it go for any less than that. If anything Los Skanless probably had to pay more than that to get it. That's why when everyone on the board was looking for someone to front the money, I had to pass. I just didn't think I'd be able to get the money back, and I didn't want to potentially have to mess with Crooked I's lawyers lol. Someone on here mentioned that Los Skanless was known for spending a lot of money on Death Row collectibles. I don't know Los Skanless personally, so I can't vouch for that. But if it's true, maybe he has a lot of money, and is willing to chalk up that $1300 or whatever the amount was as a loss. It's difficult for me to speak about his motivations, because I don't really know him. If I had to speculate, I'd say he's just as pissed as a lot of people about the way things turned out. I'm not sure trying to resell it would work though. After refunding everyone's money, I doubt he could get all of those people to reorder.
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I emailed Losskan a few times we went back and forthe he wanted me to pay 1300 for the cd and buy it from him i wasnt interested, If im gonna cover the cost to press and promote the album in mot gonna pay 1300 on top of that... thats just asinine. Ive emailed FTP they never responded back.
People dont understand theres a huge genre outside of this board, japan, cali, florida, australia, all over the world where people have no clue what dubcnn is..... its the reality of it. These guys are selling in they "backyards" on here.... They put it on itunes and instores opens the sales floor to the entire world
some people just hustle backwards
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BTW, if Crook was your homie, Snonuff, you'd know he has said so many times now that Say Hi To The Bad Guy is NOT coming out until Boss or his official retail album drops. Period. I know this for a fact.
So, if you do sell it before then, I don't see how you are acting on Crook's behalf.
I know Crooked I said that, but I never understood why. It didn't really make sense to me then and it epecially doesn't now. Considering that he's now planning on putting BOSS out as a free download, staggered over a series of weeks, I don't see how a bootleg or a leak of "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" would undermine the release. Once he decided to give BOSS away for free, it ceased to be a retail release. If anything allowing "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" would only promote his later releases. It would be like when he allowed that bootleg version of "Young Boss volume 2" to come out before the official Dj Skee Version. As far as his upcoming retail album, we no longer have any concrete info on when it's coming out. If he did decide to wait to put out his Death Row material after his first official album hits retail, we'll be waiting several more years before we hear it. With all due respect to Crooked, I can't understand what he's thinking here. If he has all this material that he wants to get paid for doing, then don't sit on it anymore. Put it out and get paid. I don't expect him to give us any of those tracks for free. He's already given out a ton of free music. Just put it on itunes or amazon.com and people would buy it.
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I emailed Losskan a few times we went back and forthe he wanted me to pay 1300 for the cd and buy it from him i wasnt interested, If im gonna cover the cost to press and promote the album in mot gonna pay 1300 on top of that... thats just asinine. Ive emailed FTP they never responded back.
People dont understand theres a huge genre outside of this board, japan, cali, florida, australia, all over the world where people have no clue what dubcnn is..... its the reality of it. These guys are selling in they "backyards" on here.... They put it on itunes and instores opens the sales floor to the entire world
some people just hustle backwards
Well, I can understand you not wanting to put $1300 down on a cd. I didn't want to either. But I can also understand Los Skanless not wanting to sell it at a loss.
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With all due respect to Crooked, I can't understand what he's thinking here. If he has all this material that he wants to get paid for doing, then don't sit on it anymore. Put it out and get paid.
I know what Crooked is thinking....the skye is gonna fall down and there is gonna be some magic 10 million dollar contract handed to him by Mc Hammer for his B.O.S.S album and he is gonna be the biggest superstar after Lil Wayne.
C'mon now, Crooked is just stupid and thinks he is gonna get some 100 times better distribution contract than what he has been offered. He could've easily put out 3 albums with good quality & got some good independent money for it but NO, he has to wait for the big opportunity that is never coming.
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With all due respect to Crooked, I can't understand what he's thinking here. If he has all this material that he wants to get paid for doing, then don't sit on it anymore. Put it out and get paid.
I know what Crooked is thinking....the skye is gonna fall down and there is gonna be some magic 10 million dollar contract handed to him by Mc Hammer for his B.O.S.S album and he is gonna be the biggest superstar after Lil Wayne.
C'mon now, Crooked is just stupid and thinks he is gonna get some 100 times better distribution contract than what he has been offered. He could've easily put out 3 albums with good quality & got some good independent money for it but NO, he has to wait for the big opportunity that is never coming.
LMAO....I just don't get it. As many songs as he's recorded for BOSS, he probably could put out 3 volumes of "BOSS" music. I mean, I think it's great if he wants to give it away for free. But after spending this much time on it, I'm not sure why does't want to just follow through and put it out in the stores. In today's digital age, hardly any hip hop artists go platinum. It's even difficult for well-established artists.
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With all due respect to Crooked, I can't understand what he's thinking here. If he has all this material that he wants to get paid for doing, then don't sit on it anymore. Put it out and get paid.
I know what Crooked is thinking....the skye is gonna fall down and there is gonna be some magic 10 million dollar contract handed to him by Mc Hammer for his B.O.S.S album and he is gonna be the biggest superstar after Lil Wayne.
C'mon now, Crooked is just stupid and thinks he is gonna get some 100 times better distribution contract than what he has been offered. He could've easily put out 3 albums with good quality & got some good independent money for it but NO, he has to wait for the big opportunity that is never coming.
ha thats how it is but people shttbg isnt even that good how yall think. some cuts are pretty good some are bananas. i gave it a few listens in my ride and now its sittin in cardboard box with other cds. the reason why crooked i isnt leakin or sellin it is what i said above. its not a hit record. yea crook should do it indi and not talkin bullshit how boss he is with his shitty ghostwritin shit. he is no boss he is nuthin until today, just for his hardcore fanatics he bangin. go indi like e and release a fuckin best of crook lol. damn to much hype about a semitight record.
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It's my understanding that Crook is going to release his Death Row material for free in the future, but wants his newer material put out first. He doesn't want the Death Row thing being his first release. He worked hard to step out of their shadows and doesn't want to premier that first... That's just what I've heard. We can only speculate about what will really end up happening.
By the way, as far as the LSN thing goes, this is my take on it. When DRF said he was selling it, LSN hit me up and asked if I wanted to go half or at least find a third party to split it up with him. He stated that we would purchase it and leak it for the fans because he claimed to be a big fan himself. However, I was skeptical, because I didn't know DRF or LSN and didn't really know if it was possible to trust a forum member that I didn't know with that much money. Additionally, I was really short on cash when all that was going on and had a lot of stuff to work through. So it wasn't possible for me and I backed out. However, to make a long story short, LSN's story changed up A LOT during the whole process where it finally turned out he was trying to sell copies for $27 a pop, $35 (w/ shipping and handling) which is unnecessarily high. So, let's see... 500 copies X $35 = $17,000. No way, I wasn't going to support someone caking like that off another man's work. That's why I'm kind of negative about the whole thing. It started out as a way to get the fans music they been wanting to hear for YEARS to a business venture. I wasn't down with that.
So, for those reasons and others that aren't listed, I don't think people should be putting the blame on those who simply questioned or hated on dude...
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It's my understanding that Crook is going to release his Death Row material for free in the future, but wants his newer material put out first. He doesn't want the Death Row thing being his first release. He worked hard to step out of their shadows and doesn't want to premier that first... That's just what I've heard. We can only speculate about what will really end up happening.
By the way, as far as the LSN thing goes, this is my take on it. When DRF said he was selling it, LSN hit me up and asked if I wanted to go half or at least find a third party to split it up with him. He stated that we would purchase it and leak it for the fans because he claimed to be a big fan himself. However, I was skeptical, because I didn't know DRF or LSN and didn't really know if it was possible to trust a forum member that I didn't know with that much money. Additionally, I was really short on cash when all that was going on and had a lot of stuff to work through. So it wasn't possible for me and I backed out. However, to make a long story short, LSN's story changed up A LOT during the whole process where it finally turned out he was trying to sell copies for $27 a pop, $35 (w/ shipping and handling) which is unnecessarily high. So, let's see... 500 copies X $35 = $17,000. No way, I wasn't going to support someone caking like that off another man's work. That's why I'm kind of negative about the whole thing. It started out as a way to get the fans music they been wanting to hear for YEARS to a business venture. I wasn't down with that.
So, for those reasons and others that aren't listed, I don't think people should be putting the blame on those who simply questioned or hated on dude...
I don't blame you for not wanting to put up half or even a third of the money for something that expensive when you weren't going to be the one handling the actual transaction. Even half or a third of that much money is still a lot to trust with someone you don't actually know. I would have been aprehensive too. As far as the LSN thing man, I understand where you're coming from. There were people with actual concerns. I know you were one of them. My take on it though, since this person has the material for sale and no one else seems willing to sell it, we the buyers are in the precarious position of either meeting whatever price he asks to finally get what we want or passing on it. Everyone seemed to want the material, going in. It did seem a little on the high side, but compared to one person having to pony up $1300 it didn't seem too bad. Now I know there were several people going back and forth with Los over the price and a timeline for shipping, but every time we did get him to make a concession, there were still some people posting, that were just trying to stir the pot. To me the situation pretty much ended up lose-lose. We didn't get the songs and he didn't get his money.
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No doubt, I understand everyone's position I really do, I'm not blind to other discussion. I'm open to hearing all angles of it, but I just wanted to put out my official stance on it before someone else hits me up telling me I was part of the problem. I wanted the music. Believe that.
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No doubt. With all these multiple threads and multiple pages of threads on multiple forums all discussing this over the last few weeks, you'd think someone would see the demand for it and think seriously about releasing it. While I understand that there can't be a lot of copies of this floating around, I doubt that Los Skanless, Deathrow's Finest, ank Kay have the only copies.
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No doubt. With all these multiple threads and multiple pages of threads on multiple forums all discussing this over the last few weeks, you'd think someone would see the demand for it and think seriously about releasing it. While I understand that there can't be a lot of copies of this floating around, I doubt that Los Skanless, Deathrow's Finest, ank Kay have the only copies.
I just hope that if someone else is selling it, they have more of LSN's tracklist than the FTP one. With the addition of the Scarface and Jada joints. Cause if the only version that leaked was the FTP that woulda sucked.
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Yeah I would've taken it over nothing because it still had a few of the actual tracks on it like "Me and My Dog," and "Suge's West Coast," but Los Skanless' version was clearly the better one.
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I'm sure a handfull of people have the album but they're all bitches. Especially those FTP fuckers. These niggas would rather sell Petey Pablo and Tha Realsest albums than Crooked I? And they said they had it for 7 years. Do these idiots realize that if they would've started selling it back in 2004 they would've made ridiculous green off this forum alone? Like I keep saying - these niggas would rather have their asses kissed than to make money.
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I'm sure a handfull of people have the album but they're all bitches. Especially those FTP fuckers. These niggas would rather sell Petey Pablo and Tha Realsest albums than Crooked I? And they said they had it for 7 years. Do these idiots realize that if they would've started selling it back in 2004 they would've made ridiculous green off this forum alone? Like I keep saying - these niggas would rather have their asses kissed than to make money.
Well, that's the reason they're talking about selling "Deathrow Dayz" volume 3. Even they don't give a shit about that crap. They'll keep releasing that stuff but they're going to hold onto the Crooked I material like it's their balls. It's a bunch of flakey bullshit. If they were going to cancel it for lack of orders, that's one thing. But they obviously just cancelled it because Los cancelled his. They knew they could hold onto their net fame and jerk off to the third verse of "Dollaz In My Hand" for a little longer.
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I'm sure a handfull of people have the album but they're all bitches. Especially those FTP fuckers. These niggas would rather sell Petey Pablo and Tha Realsest albums than Crooked I? And they said they had it for 7 years. Do these idiots realize that if they would've started selling it back in 2004 they would've made ridiculous green off this forum alone? Like I keep saying - these niggas would rather have their asses kissed than to make money.
Back then, they were still doing the DR site. Lol.
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someone can make cake selling the digital album for 9.99 on itunes were talking bout multi millions of people all over the WORLD that may want the project
like i said these dudes was advertising to a small crowd based on numbers whoever has the album is not that business minded.
you can easily sell 100,000 digital downloads with NO problem that $90,000 off 1 song downloaded 100k times
the proof is in the numbers
men lie....women lie...numbers DONT
so once again if you got the crook cd might as well make a few $s off it HOLLA AT ME
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I mean we have dozens of cds IN STORES worldwide (Stores like best buy, target, fye, virgin music stores and more) Albums from Cyssero, Omillio Sparks, Roscoe and the Armory Gang. If the one nation album does well digitally im sure they will press it up and put it in stores as well.The reason every release AINT in stores well.... it costs money for shelf space, retail co-op marketing its not as easy as sending a box of cds and saying "Put this on the floor"
So you can get retail space for Omillio Sparks and Cyssero but you need to check the digital numbers for a One Nation album (featuring Tupac Shakur) before you go retail with it? Dog, look at this from an outside perspective. You can find shelf space for those projects but an album like "One Nation" that is established as being a Tupac Shakur project that he was working on, you have to hold out and wait? And this shouldn't sound questionable to someone? You have lost albums from Pac and long-awaited Death Row albums and DVD's that never got released in stores yet you're renting shelf space for other stuff that would require a lot more actual promotion to push?
I emailed Losskan a few times we went back and forthe he wanted me to pay 1300 for the cd and buy it from him i wasnt interested, If im gonna cover the cost to press and promote the album in mot gonna pay 1300 on top of that... thats just asinine. Ive emailed FTP they never responded back.
People dont understand theres a huge genre outside of this board, japan, cali, florida, australia, all over the world where people have no clue what dubcnn is..... its the reality of it. These guys are selling in they "backyards" on here.... They put it on itunes and instores opens the sales floor to the entire world
some people just hustle backwards
You're not gonna pay 1300 for a project that is potentially worth millions? What? Sorry but I don't buy it. It sounds like you're saying two different things. You're selling folks on this idea that you could make millions but you don't want to invest less than a grand and a half to get it? If anything, you'd be recouping that expense right off the bat before you even started giving them their cut so to me, that's asinine.
someone can make cake selling the digital album for 9.99 on itunes were talking bout multi millions of people all over the WORLD that may want the project
like i said these dudes was advertising to a small crowd based on numbers whoever has the album is not that business minded.
you can easily sell 100,000 digital downloads with NO problem that $90,000 off 1 song downloaded 100k times
the proof is in the numbers
men lie....women lie...numbers DONT
so once again if you got the crook cd might as well make a few $s off it HOLLA AT ME
But the so-called "numbers" that are your proof are hypothetical ones. If there is any real potential for you to sell this worldwide and make that kind of money, giving someone $1,300 for the project should be a no-brainer. Unless there is risk of someone closing your operation down. Of all the material you have, it seems like the stuff that you might not legally own (One Nation, Inside Deathrow, etc.) dissapears or is "discontinued by the distributor" before it is even given an actual release. You can throw any hypothetical number at someone and say, "If I get it, I can sell thirty thousand for X amount of dollars and make this" but where is the evidence that supports this? Like you said, people lie so why should we believe you if you don't have "numbers" that are supported by someone other than you? Any person can sell someone a dream. If you have proof, the forum will look at it and make up their mind but I can simply do a quick google search and I can find about a hundred people who will complain about you scamming them and only maybe a handful who will say otherwise so the numbers don't necessarily support you.
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please dont speak on a business you know nothing about, we released those projects (cyssero, sparks, armory gang and do on) because we worked directly with those artists to put those projects out, you talk a good game but you dont have a clue how the music business works and what it takes to put a release on a store shelf. Noone said the crooked I cd was destined to make millions, hell if it was guarenteed to mke me 50k id invest the 1300, i was saying if dudes released it in the store or via itunes it was exposing the release to millions of POTENTIAL sales. trust me im not scared to do anything nothing I DO will ever jeopardize my business. I explained why the one release was marked "discontinued" yet you wanna argue the fact. it sounds more like your wanting to argue then see the facts almost like your wanna dantes butt buddies incognito. My word has always been good no matter where im at (on or off line) you wont find "Dozens" of people i scammed know why because they dont exsist.... alls your find is internet dweebs lying and making up stories trying to discredit my name,,,,, what you WILL find, like you said yourself, are people vouching for me
you can look and see what ive done, cds ive released, hell you see the one nation album jumping on every single hiphop website, vibe magazine put the new on THEIR site... i proved what I can do i make moves and make money plain and simple
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shonuff/shortyo ,....
stop selling 2pac bootleggs you fat bushpig
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please dont speak on a business you know nothing about, we released those projects (cyssero, sparks, armory gang and do on) because we worked directly with those artists to put those projects out, you talk a good game but you dont have a clue how the music business works and what it takes to put a release on a store shelf. Noone said the crooked I cd was destined to make millions, hell if it was guarenteed to mke me 50k id invest the 1300, i was saying if dudes released it in the store or via itunes it was exposing the release to millions of POTENTIAL sales. trust me im not scared to do anything nothing I DO will ever jeopardize my business. I explained why the one release was marked "discontinued" yet you wanna argue the fact. it sounds more like your wanting to argue then see the facts almost like your wanna dantes butt buddies incognito. My word has always been good no matter where im at (on or off line) you wont find "Dozens" of people i scammed know why because they dont exsist.... alls your find is internet dweebs lying and making up stories trying to discredit my name,,,,, what you WILL find, like you said yourself, are people vouching for me
you can look and see what ive done, cds ive released, hell you see the one nation album jumping on every single hiphop website, vibe magazine put the new on THEIR site... i proved what I can do i make moves and make money plain and simple
Actually, I'm not working for anyone. I'm not accussing you of anything. I'm asking you some questions on some questionable things and you're starting to get real defensive, instead of just answering the questions. If anything I'm playing devil's advocate and allowing you to give your side of the story. You're the one who is turning around and trying to make it seem like someone is out to destroy you and there is this great conspiracy against you. It's far from it.
If anyone were to come on here, whether it be FTP, GMG, or whoever and they were making the same claims, I would expect them to explain themselves. It's not an attack. It's simple curiousity. And I can't look at what you've done or see the CD's you've released, I can read what you have to say but why is your word more valid than other people's? You have a complete objectivity issue. You make comments about how people can tell lies but numbers can't then when someone asks you to show them the numbers, you treat them like they are being an asshole. Nobody is saying that a Crooked I project is guaranteed to make millions but if you the capability to release a pressed "Say Hi To The Bad Guy" album LEGALLY in stores then paying $1,300 for it is a "fucking steal" even with the additional money you invest in materials and promotion. The only way it wouldn't be worth that money is if you're a bootlegger looking to sell as much of it as possible before the legal owner gets wise to you and shuts you down.
I am presenting the information as I see it. I have never seen one of your projects in any store. I am not in any way saying that that means that you don't have product in stores. I'm simply saying that I buy CD's quite a bit. I go into your Best Buy's, FYE's, and a lot of the Mom & Pop record stores on a weekly basis. I have seen your stuff offered on online stores, which in most cases that means while the retail store doesn't carry the product, they can "special order" it from a distributor.
I'm not claiming to be a know-it-all in the music business but I'm also not an idiot. I'm not talking down to you so don't talk down to me. I haven't insulted you. I've seen information, some posted by people who don't like you and others posted directly by you, and I've simply asked you to explain it. If I'm lacking the correct information then by all means, correct me! I know there is a huge difference between putting albums that you've released (i.e. Cyserro) and stuff you've obtained (i.e. One Nation) in stores. The Crooked I project would most likely fall in the latter category.
My word has always been good no matter where im at (on or off line) you wont find "Dozens" of people i scammed know why because they dont exsist.... alls your find is internet dweebs lying and making up stories trying to discredit my name,,,,, what you WILL find, like you said yourself, are people vouching for me
So I should believe the people who say good things about you but not the people who say bad? Why? If everyone is capable of being a liar, why do the handful of people who say they ordered from you get a pass but the larger number of people who say negative things don't? Outside of it serving your purpose, how is this reasonable? I'm not saying the majority opinion is the correct one but I fail to see how your argument makes any sense at all.
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damn jimmy, you gotts to be a defense lawyer one day.
you'd bring in mad stacks, fuck defendin a crooked I release (for free)
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haha jimmyh breaking it down
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It's just something seems out of wack here. The guy makes all this money and has all these outlets to sell but he wouldn't pay $1300 for the Crooked I Death Row stuff when he's claiming that he knows a way he can get it in stores legally? It just doesn't add up. Even if you were selling pressed copies exclusively from your website, you'd make that $1300 plus manufacturing expenses back before you were done pressing the things. I'm not calling the dude anything. If anything, he the one who wants to discredit me because I'm asking a questions he don't want to answer. If I'm wrong, fine, I'll be the first man to admit it. I'd buy that Petey Pablo or Danny Boy or whoever if it was pressed up and sitting on the shelf at my nearest Best Buy but I've never seen it. If he's selling authentic "bootlegs" and people buy them and are happy with their purchase, he ain't hurting anyone in my book. More power to him but he'll start talking all this extra stuff that seems suspicious and when someone asks about it, he starts acting funny. My thing is he's basically saying "If anyone buys the Crooked I Death Row album, I will put it out for you and we'll make some money". This all sounds good in theory but it begs the question if you have the money and resources and you're on the up and up, why wouldn't you offer an outright figure? If you're a business man, any money you spend on this project, you recoup before any profit-sharing happens anyway. Am I wrong? If you invest say, $5000 in this project, you make that all back before you even give cent one to the person who handed it over to you so why wouldn't you put that money out?
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you speakin on some real shit jimmy, str8 up
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lol dude getting all mad cuz i said i aint paying 1300, not since id have to pay to 1)press the album, 2) promote tha album and 3) pay the retail cop for the stores it just dont seem feesable to me... if your so pressed with someone paying 1300 for a cd... you fucking pay it and put it out
also fyi my cds are in EVERY store you must not be looking hard enuff... cyssero protege of the game is in damn near every stre in the WORLD... armory gang should be too or in major markets right now./
noone arguing with you because your noone to argue with.... im just telling you...your whole defense is "if you really think the cd can make money you would put out $1300" thats not true... im not paying 1300 for something that 5+ other people got that can fuck my $ up sorry... now if homie came to me and said "im the only one with this cd, ill sell you it exclusively for 1300" then it would be worth it, but im not paying 1300 for a cd, and putting money out and then have some net geek like dante release it and fuck my money up
like i said u speaking as a fan you dont know shit about this business...not a diss its just the truth
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Does Cyssero and Armory Gang see money off those projects?
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I wouldn't pay $1300 because I couldn't legally put it out. You are saying that you can. If I had the legal rights to do so and someone offered it to me for $1300 when I can supposedly make it happen, I'd do it in heartbeat. What companies are charging you for shelf space? I know plenty of independent music labels that go through "consignment" which means you put it in the store, you decide the price, they take their percentage for stocking, and whatever doesn't sell in 30-90 days, they give back to you.
Whether you pay for it or you don't isn't any sweat off my back but you shouldn't be on here promoting yourself as one thing and then acting a different way because you want to get material for free and sell it. Promotion, pressing, and other expenses are an investment. I'm assuming you would be sharing the "profit" which means the person who would be submitting this stuff wouldn't get a dollar until you recouped all of your expenses which includes everything you mentioned. So if you're spending say $2,000 on putting this project together, you wouldn't start giving anyone a percentage until you actually made back that investment. This doesn't require a business degree or even extensive knowledge of the music industry. This is fairly common knowledge. So any money you paid to acquire the music would have to be made back before he started getting any money anyway. It's called a "budget".
The thing is you are generally right about me. I don't run a music label or any kind of distribution company but that doesn't mean I don't deal with people who do. The problem with you is you seem to think that you are above everyone because you have a music label. Just because someone isn't in the same position in you doesn't make them stupid or jealous. Granted, I don't know everything but you read a few books and have actual conversations with people who know things about managing money and you can learn a lot. Just some food for thought.
like i said u speaking as a fan you dont know shit about this business..
Well, it would appear from the way you avoid my questions and try to spin this into a "personal issue" that you probably don't know much about the business either. Maybe you do but in the three or so replies to me, you've spent more time speaking down to me and acting like you know something then actually presenting any rational insight. Your posts are all over the place and at times, contradictory. You talk about how far your reach is in terms of worldwide appeal and how your competitors "only have the Internet" yet you use this same logic to avoid releasing it since these "Internet only" guys could fuck your money up. How? If you are able to touch markets that they can't, you should have nothing to worry about it. Their overall damage to your pocket would be minimal. In fact, if you have pressed product in stores, why would anyone need to bother with them in the first place?
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The thing is you are generally right about me. I don't run a music label or any kind of distribution company but that doesn't mean I don't deal with people who do. The problem with you is you seem to think that you are above everyone because you have a music label. Just because someone isn't in the same position in you doesn't make them stupid or jealous. Granted, I don't know everything but you read a few books and have actual conversations with people who know things about managing money and you can learn a lot. Just some food for thought.
This is the problem with a lot of these bootleggers out there, they trying to school people thinking they are dealing with a bunch of kids just cause they posting in a forum. The truth is most of us don't know each other offline and have no idea where everyone is coming from, so all the assumptions have to chill.
BTW, you making some good posts homie, I appreciate everything you saying in this thread.
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i didnt avoid any of your questions dipshit lol i answered em all.. and mom and pops do consignment... major retail stores do co-op marketing... thats a whole nother topic that im sure you think you know about lol
i dont talk down on noone i know what i know because ive been in the business since 1999 putting cds in stores... and yes every artist we put in stores gets paid i split everything 50/50
as for you thinking that i need to recoup any costs before anyone gets paid... dont work like that, we work out a 3:1 deal with every artists which means for every $3 they make we take a $1 to recoup the costs we put out meaning if a album sells for $15 we get $12... outta that 12 its split 50/50... out of the artists $6 we take $2 to recoup back what we spent
we do this so artists still make money while we get paid back... but like i said your a kid who thinks he knows what hes talking about.. as for effex i aint a "bootlegger trying to school peoaple" like i said i been at this for 10 years, released albums worldwide and made enuff money to not give a fuck about paying $1300 for a crooked i release that 5+ other ppl have...
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The thing is you are generally right about me. I don't run a music label or any kind of distribution company but that doesn't mean I don't deal with people who do. The problem with you is you seem to think that you are above everyone because you have a music label. Just because someone isn't in the same position in you doesn't make them stupid or jealous. Granted, I don't know everything but you read a few books and have actual conversations with people who know things about managing money and you can learn a lot. Just some food for thought.
This is the problem with a lot of these bootleggers out there, they trying to school people thinking they are dealing with a bunch of kids just cause they posting in a forum. The truth is most of us don't know each other offline and have no idea where everyone is coming from, so all the assumptions have to chill.
BTW, you making some good posts homie, I appreciate everything you saying in this thread.
That's kind of the vibe I get off this kid. He probably goes around from forum to forum doing this stuff and people eat it up because A) they don't know better and B) anyone with any actual knowledge on business isn't present. If you're in the know about business and somebody asks you a question, why would you insult them and say "You're just a fan. You don't know what you're talking about". Well, why are in you a fan forum if you are above talking to "fans" and answering their questions? If I have the wrong information and you're knowledgeable on the subject, shouldn't you be setting me straight instead of just assuming I'm ignorant and talking down to me? It's one thing if I'm being insulting to you but the fact that he takes the time to acknowledge my presence but ignores the actual question itself suggests that he's worried he might expose himself. If you are a successful business person, questions as simple as these shouldn't bother you. He'll get long-winded on how much better he is than everybody else but the more you read his threads, the more chinks start to show up in his armor!
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i can only assume your not from the us because your mentality is that of a fucking squirrel
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i dont talk down on noone
i didnt avoid any of your questions dipshit lol i answered em all..
but like i said your a kid who thinks he knows what hes talking about..
You don't talk down on anyone? You have done nothing BUT talk down on anyone and everyone who doesn't 100% agree with you.
as for you thinking that i need to recoup any costs before anyone gets paid... dont work like that, we work out a 3:1 deal with every artists which means for every $3 they make we take a $1 to recoup the costs we put out meaning if a album sells for $15 we get $12... outta that 12 its split 50/50... out of the artists $6 we take $2 to recoup back what we spent
WHAT?!?! Who in the HELL taught you how to do business? I'm sorry but you're either lying or you have no idea how to run a business whatsoever. Between paying for shelf space and giving artist percentages on projects when the upfront investment hasn't been recouped, you'd be out of business in two months. Unless you're doing some kind of cross promotional advertisement with the store, they shouldn't be getting anything more than a percentage of sales. You have really given yourself a way with this one.
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shorty-o is a fat trailer park trash boar from chester, who stole pac & daz vocals, and put it on a song on shorty-ho's wack album, without permission, and is tryna sell this wack product. shorty-ho needs to shoot himself. he is the laughing stock on the internet, where his name is only known on forums and blogs , where people are clowning him, lol
fukk shonuff/shortyo & affiliated records
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i can only assume your not from the us because your mentality is that of a fucking squirrel
Well, even a squirrel would know you don't pay a retail store for shelf space or give a percentage of your earnings to an "artist" when you haven't paid off the money you've invested yet.
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he looks like fat bastard from austin powers
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BTW, you making some good posts homie, I appreciate everything you saying in this thread.
Thanks for the props.
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Jimmy really took the time to explain why this morbidly obese fuck tard shouldn't be trusted with money.
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im not paying 1300 for something that 5+ other people got that can fuck my $ up sorry... now if homie came to me and said "im the only one with this cd, ill sell you it exclusively for 1300" then it would be worth it, but im not paying 1300 for a cd, and putting money out and then have some net geek like dante release it and fuck my money up
That actually is a valid reason.
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im not paying 1300 for something that 5+ other people got that can fuck my $ up sorry... now if homie came to me and said "im the only one with this cd, ill sell you it exclusively for 1300" then it would be worth it, but im not paying 1300 for a cd, and putting money out and then have some net geek like dante release it and fuck my money up
That actually is a valid reason.
Not really, if he can get it on store shelves like he claims then it shouldn't really be an issue. It would leak to the net regardless, whether it was someone else who had the CD or the first person that bought it, you can't stop it. Even if someone else tried to sell it online, so what? Apparently he can sell it on iTunes, so who cares if some bum tries to to sell it on their small time website.
Jimmy H put this guy on the spot with some fairly straight forward questions and this idiot crumbled and resorted to name calling.
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I'd actually love to meet the people who invest in this company. "So, I'm gonna make less than twenty-percent off each CD while the artist I'm investing in is making over twenty-five without having any of his finances tied up in the project? Sounds good. Where do I sign? I hope this thing goes platinum so I can break even but if I do lose my money, maybe I can borrow some from the rapper I just gave it to."
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all along crooked dont want nuthin to do wit this or dont want to make money off his own muzik
I'd actually love to meet the people who invest in this company. "So, I'm gonna make less than twenty-percent off each CD while the artist I'm investing in is making over twenty-five without having any of his finances tied up in the project? Sounds good. Where do I sign? I hope this thing goes platinum so I can break even but if I do lose my money, maybe I can borrow some from the rapper I just gave it to."
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So nobody wants to advantage of this deal?