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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Biggzy on April 18, 2009, 12:16:01 PM
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alotta ppl hate Big Suge but they 4get wat he did 4 hip hop n the westcoast.. he put the west on the map!!! alotta these ungreatfull motherfukaz bitin the hand that fed em n havent done shit since they left deathrow..
has snoop released anything like doggystyle ever since???
the dpg r wack as fuck n the only shit that was half decent was on deathow..
suge n deathrow put albums out- real street shit.. with deathrow behind em these artists went all out n repped the west to the fullest, but nowadays snoop dont rep the west! he lives in ny! he aint in longbeach!
suge gave mothafukaz with talent a platform, ppl who wouldnt get anywhere!! he gave ex-cons a means to feed they family coz no 1 gonna give a black ex-con a job no place!
alotta u fuckerz r ungrateful 4 wat suge did for the west coz as i can gather u all dpg fans.. but u need a reality check!!!
deathrow was the label n suge took it n the west to the top.. theres 2 much 2 write in 1 post but its SAD 2 see that such a great empire n dynasty had 2 collapse coz of sellouts n corporate america!! n wat the fuk does wideawake know about deathrow n street music!! they just gonna destroy the catalogue n release some wack shit!! hiphop will never b the same..
fuk fake as 50
fuk gayme
fuk eminem (this is a westcoast blog so why am i seein his shit on here)
fuk daz
fuk snoopy the biyatch
fuk gay-unit
fuk u wak ass producers producin pop shit
fuk auto-tune n fuk all u ringtone raappers
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How much did Suge pay you to make this post?
BTW: You do realize that Suge never released half the material that is in the vaults, I suppose you want it to sit there forever. I applaud WIDEAwake for reaching out to the artists and fans the way they are. I guess you just don't want to hear unreleased music.
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^ LOL
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lol at u postin in red
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if they gave the man a chance 2 maybe he would have released alotta shit...
he was spendin most of the time behind bars...
the man was becomin 2 powerful! he was the only ceo who had somethin like 5 multiplatinums out of 5 whereas in the insdustry 2 get like 3 out of 10 was regarded as major success..
n dont gimme that bullshit that dre made deathrow- he aint do shit the fukin homo...
there were producers like johnny j (rip), darren vegas, big hutch who produced better shit!!
btw, suge dnt need me to post this shit.. that shit is fact!
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After snoop and dre, what did suge do for crooked i and nina and eastwood etc.. no albums to show for faggot. 10 years has passed for death row and you wanna complain this now? i hope wideawake releases ALL that music so you can continue to get mad. why dont u go hold up a liquor store.
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coz he was locked up most time u dickrider!!!
i aint mad if they release the music, i wanna hear that 2 u homo...
its just not the same as as the "REAL DEATHROW" releasin it executively produced by big simon...
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coz he was locked up most time u dickrider!!!
i aint mad if they release the music, i wanna hear that 2 u homo...
its just not the same as as the "REAL DEATHROW" releasin it executively produced by big simon...
i agree, suge didn't have much of a chance with all his legal shit goin on and did a good job of putting Crooked, Kurupt, Left eye and whatever else on a roster in the first place for a new foundation. i can see why people may not like the guy but there's no doubt that deathrow music is not the same without Suge
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where is death row now?
exactly 8)
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Is this who i think it is ?
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Jesus that red text is fucking up my eyes :'( >:(
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there's no doubt that deathrow music is not the same without Suge
Exactly.
Imagine if this happened to Dre with him losing Aftermath like this and then some company comes along buys all the shit and plans to release it... :-X
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Come on man, all these artists recorded so much and when Suge wasn't in jail he couldn't get stuff on the shelves. We gave him long enough, too many disappointments. He dug his own hole, you acting like it's WIDEAwake's fault or anyone else that drove his company into the ground.
BTW: How is Death Row music not the same without Suge? He didn't make the music, especially the music that was made when he was locked up. I could care less if I bought a Death Row CD that said "Big Simon" on the back, forget the hype, I'm in it for the music.
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Come on man, all these artists recorded so much and when Suge wasn't in jail he couldn't get stuff on the shelves. We gave him long enough, too many disappointments. He dug his own hole, you acting like it's WIDEAwake's fault or anyone else that drove his company into the ground.
BTW: How is Death Row music not the same without Suge? He didn't make the music, especially the music that was made when he was locked up. I could care less if I bought a Death Row CD that said "Big Simon" on the back, forget the hype, I'm in it for the music.
haha the biggest Crooked I fan saying Suge was a dissapointment because he didnt put music out and he had long enough to do it? that sounds more like Crook to me
just because he wasn't able to get a Crook cd out doesn't take away the multiple multi-platinum albums he did put out. suge fucked up a few times but i'd say he made a good living from where he started. and if any of you really believe he's broke now, you've gotta be kidding me. how come he's got the best lawyers?
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Man....Suge was THE MAN back in the day...Dre would never have been able to leave Ruthless without him and Snoop probably would have signed with another label.. We swould never have had The Chronic or Doggystyle without Suge and his strong armed tactics.. As far as Pac, despite all the hype, dude was just icing on the cake..The dynasty was already built and signing pac was like the Lakers signing Chris Paul or something....Having said all that, Suge was also the reason for the demise of DeathRow and it's kind of sad that dude could not realize that you can't have your superstars (Dre, Snoop) not comfortable coming to work cause you got the workplace loaded with niggas (mostly Bloods) who want nothing but to start shit all the time. Dre left, Pac was gonna leave and Snoop left when he got the chance...Suge should get his share of the credit for the rise and success of DR but Suge should get all of the blame for the demise...By the way, Suge might still have some cake but not like Dre, Jay-Z and Puff...That is why he is only able to afford to party in the streets of LA (gettin his chin checked lately) while Dre probably just goes out of the country whenever he wants to party...In his darkest moments, Suge has to know that he fucked up.
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get rid of that annoying ass red font you fag
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get rid of that annoying ass red font you fag
ha yeah that shit's annoying but aint on a faggish tip....i'm surprised effex dude dont have somethin else to say....usually on these boards all day ready to say somethin. i'm sure he's alright but kinda a crook groupie
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I Feel U Biggzy... About Sum Shit... Sum Otha Shyt U Said Iz Bananas... 8)
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get rid of the red text.
you're gonna give someone a fuckin seizure
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are u a blood biggzy?
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I think a lot of snoop and dre fans are quick to forget that suge is the reason dre and snoop were big.It was suges westcoast.But the man lived a life that could only result in a negative fashion.He was extremely dangerous and was untouchable.That night in Vegas was the end.As for not releasing anything,let's face it he was black balled from the industry and for good reason.He was under FBI watch constantly and any label that fucked with swiftly got FBI cases.If it wasn't for the goverment interference death row would have had a second dynasty.Hate him or love you can't deny without him the westcoast reign would never have happened.dre,snoop,dpg all owe their careers to him.theirs a reason kurupt went back.
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are u a blood biggzy?
I bet he is...hes a euro-slob.
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eurowiggers run this board
someone from poland arguing with someone from germany over whos more of a blood gangmember and more GANG$TER
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Suge helped out the west coast and all of them business wise but I doubt he had much to do with making the actual music besides telling everyone who was to be on what.
Yes I put it in blue font on purpose lol.
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Is this who i think it is ?
haha
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I think a lot of snoop and dre fans are quick to forget that suge is the reason dre and snoop were big.It was suges westcoast.But the man lived a life that could only result in a negative fashion.He was extremely dangerous and was untouchable.That night in Vegas was the end.As for not releasing anything,let's face it he was black balled from the industry and for good reason.He was under FBI watch constantly and any label that fucked with swiftly got FBI cases.If it wasn't for the goverment interference death row would have had a second dynasty.Hate him or love you can't deny without him the westcoast reign would never have happened.dre,snoop,dpg all owe their careers to him.theirs a reason kurupt went back.
Well put especially the black balled part.
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"suge heil" ;D
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I think a lot of snoop and dre fans are quick to forget that suge is the reason dre and snoop were big.It was suges westcoast.But the man lived a life that could only result in a negative fashion.He was extremely dangerous and was untouchable.That night in Vegas was the end.As for not releasing anything,let's face it he was black balled from the industry and for good reason.He was under FBI watch constantly and any label that fucked with swiftly got FBI cases.If it wasn't for the goverment interference death row would have had a second dynasty.Hate him or love you can't deny without him the westcoast reign would never have happened.dre,snoop,dpg all owe their careers to him.theirs a reason kurupt went back.
And dre wouldn't have done shit if suge hadn't saved him from ruthless...
ehm, Dre already had a career :P
and suge had some business sense, but it was not enough to save the label.
not to mention that death row was founded the wrong way in the first place.
and Dre was an idiot for secretly leaving Ruthless, as no major label wanted to sign him due to his legal problems with Ruthless.
he should have renegotiated with Ruthless, that could have gotten him a better deal......
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Man....Suge was THE MAN back in the day...Dre would never have been able to leave Ruthless without him and Snoop probably would have signed with another label.. We swould never have had The Chronic or Doggystyle without Suge and his strong armed tactics.. As far as Pac, despite all the hype, dude was just icing on the cake..The dynasty was already built and signing pac was like the Lakers signing Chris Paul or something....Having said all that, Suge was also the reason for the demise of DeathRow and it's kind of sad that dude could not realize that you can't have your superstars (Dre, Snoop) not comfortable coming to work cause you got the workplace loaded with niggas (mostly Bloods) who want nothing but to start shit all the time. Dre left, Pac was gonna leave and Snoop left when he got the chance...Suge should get his share of the credit for the rise and success of DR but Suge should get all of the blame for the demise...By the way, Suge might still have some cake but not like Dre, Jay-Z and Puff...That is why he is only able to afford to party in the streets of LA (gettin his chin checked lately) while Dre probably just goes out of the country whenever he wants to party...In his darkest moments, Suge has to know that he fucked up.
I agree 100% with your statement.
eurowiggers run this board
someone from poland arguing with someone from germany over whos more of a blood gangmember and more GANG$TER
On a side note - I'm really tired of this eurowiggers and eurofags bullshit that's going on here.. As much as I like this forum, that particular subject is just fuckin' annoying! You got some problem dude with us being from the Europe and contributing to the topics featured on this board?
Everytime I read this bullshit makes me fuckin' sick!
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On a side note - I'm really tired of this eurowiggers and eurofags bullshit that's going on here.. As much as I like this forum, that particular subject is just fuckin' annoying! You got some problem dude with us being from the Europe and contributing to the topics featured on this board?
Everytime I read this bullshit makes me fuckin' sick!
yeah man, thats right. i hate these bullshitin about people from europe. a lot of these cats who write shit like this dont live in the "HOOD".
Executive Produced by Suge Knight means in 1992 - 1997 great music!! you cant compare it to aftermath or other shitty label today. Death Row was like a religion for a lot of people. it was like a war symbol against the mainstream in every place in the world...
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I think a lot of snoop and dre fans are quick to forget that suge is the reason dre and snoop were big.It was suges westcoast.But the man lived a life that could only result in a negative fashion.He was extremely dangerous and was untouchable.That night in Vegas was the end.As for not releasing anything,let's face it he was black balled from the industry and for good reason.He was under FBI watch constantly and any label that fucked with swiftly got FBI cases.If it wasn't for the goverment interference death row would have had a second dynasty.Hate him or love you can't deny without him the westcoast reign would never have happened.dre,snoop,dpg all owe their careers to him.theirs a reason kurupt went back.
everything went downhill when Suge became a public figure +1
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i actually agree wit what u said...(minus the lil rant @ the end) but one thing is 4 sure...u cant say suge aint done shit or dont love the west coast
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Man....Suge was THE MAN back in the day...Dre would never have been able to leave Ruthless without him and Snoop probably would have signed with another label.. We swould never have had The Chronic or Doggystyle without Suge and his strong armed tactics.. As far as Pac, despite all the hype, dude was just icing on the cake..The dynasty was already built and signing pac was like the Lakers signing Chris Paul or something....Having said all that, Suge was also the reason for the demise of DeathRow and it's kind of sad that dude could not realize that you can't have your superstars (Dre, Snoop) not comfortable coming to work cause you got the workplace loaded with niggas (mostly Bloods) who want nothing but to start shit all the time. Dre left, Pac was gonna leave and Snoop left when he got the chance...Suge should get his share of the credit for the rise and success of DR but Suge should get all of the blame for the demise...By the way, Suge might still have some cake but not like Dre, Jay-Z and Puff...That is why he is only able to afford to party in the streets of LA (gettin his chin checked lately) while Dre probably just goes out of the country whenever he wants to party...In his darkest moments, Suge has to know that he fucked up.
I agree 100% with your statement.
eurowiggers run this board
someone from poland arguing with someone from germany over whos more of a blood gangmember and more GANG$TER
On a side note - I'm really tired of this eurowiggers and eurofags bullshit that's going on here.. As much as I like this forum, that particular subject is just fuckin' annoying! You got some problem dude with us being from the Europe and contributing to the topics featured on this board?
Everytime I read this bullshit makes me fuckin' sick!
lol dont take this shit personal.... just words.
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suge knight is the greatest thing that ever happened to westcoast rap.Death row blow the west up and repersented the west correctly.so i agree that people need to give suge knight credit for getting the west popping like he did.
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get rid of that annoying ass red font you fag
ha yeah that shit's annoying but aint on a faggish tip....i'm surprised effex dude dont have somethin else to say....usually on these boards all day ready to say somethin. i'm sure he's alright but kinda a crook groupie
I'm a Crooked groupie? What about you, your repping a man that would probably bitch slap you if you asked when the next album was dropping.
Suge don't care about the music anymore, he just wants to run around on some mafia tip.
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Man....Suge was THE MAN back in the day...Dre would never have been able to leave Ruthless without him and Snoop probably would have signed with another label.. We swould never have had The Chronic or Doggystyle without Suge and his strong armed tactics.. As far as Pac, despite all the hype, dude was just icing on the cake..The dynasty was already built and signing pac was like the Lakers signing Chris Paul or something....Having said all that, Suge was also the reason for the demise of DeathRow and it's kind of sad that dude could not realize that you can't have your superstars (Dre, Snoop) not comfortable coming to work cause you got the workplace loaded with niggas (mostly Bloods) who want nothing but to start shit all the time. Dre left, Pac was gonna leave and Snoop left when he got the chance...Suge should get his share of the credit for the rise and success of DR but Suge should get all of the blame for the demise. In his darkest moments, Suge has to know that he fucked up.
Locked!
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WHY DO U POST IN RED? YOUR A HOMO.
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why u got a problem with me postin in red yo fag??? n who u callin eurowigger mothafuka i aint no wigger... u sure yo pops wasnt a wigger u fag ass computer gangsta!!!half the ppl on this board r probably beverly hills bitches who aint never seen a hood, mothafucka i'll wait outside yo mama house if i had 2...
suge pointed these rappers in2 the right direction n he had a major influence in wat tracks made the final cut n wat kinda theme the cd adapted... if it wasnt 4 suge backin u would never heard tracks like hit em up, LA LA, against all odds coz they woulda been scared 2 release disses like that..
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why u got a problem with me postin in red yo fag???
cause its hard to read
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why u got a problem with me postin in red yo fag???
cause its hard to read
LOL, true.
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by the way,today is suge's birthday.He's turning 44.
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Psycho Hustla been doin some hard drugs or he just drunk and talkin shit?
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Psycho Hustla been doin some hard drugs or he just drunk and talkin shit?
lol! trust me it's not PH.
different style.
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One Word Killed Death Row "Illuminati"
What happened when SUGE KNIGHT, J-PRINCE & IRV GOTTI were going to combine money and resources to create the first black owned distribution company? The Jews ithat run the record industry got hella scared and tried to demolish all three. Rap-a-lot was the only production company that survived. Yeah Irv one his case however murder inc died...
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thats the shit im talkin bout... these mothafuckaz plotted 2 take down suge with the help of illumaniti member snoop.. how u think he got off a murder charge? n he say it in MWTC when he say sumthin like he sold his soul 2 the devil... his music went from street shit 2 commercial shit.. but i bet half of u r 2 dumb 2 understand shit like that..
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thats the shit im talkin bout... these mothafuckaz plotted 2 take down suge with the help of illumaniti member snoop.. how u think he got off a murder charge? n he say it in MWTC when he say sumthin like he sold his soul 2 the devil... his music went from street shit 2 commercial shit.. but i bet half of u r 2 dumb 2 understand shit like that..
my eyes are hurting
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get rid of that annoying ass red font you fag
ha yeah that shit's annoying but aint on a faggish tip....i'm surprised effex dude dont have somethin else to say....usually on these boards all day ready to say somethin. i'm sure he's alright but kinda a crook groupie
I'm a Crooked groupie? What about you, your repping a man that would probably bitch slap you if you asked when the next album was dropping.
Suge don't care about the music anymore, he just wants to run around on some mafia tip.
ha yeah you are and you see him talking to regular people all the time. crooked i's only real shot at getting big was from suge knight
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alotta ppl hate Big Suge but they 4get wat he did 4 hip hop n the westcoast.. he put the west on the map!!! alotta these ungreatfull motherfukaz bitin the hand that fed em n havent done shit since they left deathrow..
has snoop released anything like doggystyle ever since???
the dpg r wack as fuck n the only shit that was half decent was on deathow..
suge n deathrow put albums out- real street shit.. with deathrow behind em these artists went all out n repped the west to the fullest, but nowadays snoop dont rep the west! he lives in ny! he aint in longbeach!
suge gave mothafukaz with talent a platform, ppl who wouldnt get anywhere!! he gave ex-cons a means to feed they family coz no 1 gonna give a black ex-con a job no place!
alotta u fuckerz r ungrateful 4 wat suge did for the west coz as i can gather u all dpg fans.. but u need a reality check!!!
deathrow was the label n suge took it n the west to the top.. theres 2 much 2 write in 1 post but its SAD 2 see that such a great empire n dynasty had 2 collapse coz of sellouts n corporate america!! n wat the fuk does wideawake know about deathrow n street music!! they just gonna destroy the catalogue n release some wack shit!! hiphop will never b the same..
Uh, the West Coast was already on the map for years before there was even a Death Row. Suge helped bring it to the next level with Death Row but let's not pretend like he single-handedly reinvented the face of music. The guy got shit done, no question, but the artists, producers, and others involved helped as well.
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Executive Produced by Suge Knight means in 1992 - 1997 great music!! you cant compare it to aftermath or other shitty label today. Death Row was like a religion for a lot of people. it was like a war symbol against the mainstream in every place in the world...
That's part of the problem. In its most popular stages, Death Row was as mainstream as every other label that other people criticize. People prefer its sound over the stuff that replaced it over the next decade and change but while they were a change from some of the more traditional labels, they were still a mainstream label that was under the umbrella of one of the biggest record companies in the world. As a businessman, Suge was like none other but there was practically a guaranteed shelf life to how long that would last.
When you have Dr. Dre whose name value as a producer is worth millions and you're continuing to roll out platinum releases, people will kind of let you behave in whatever manner you want. Success allows people a kind of freedom. There's too much money involved for the labels to care whether Suge really smacked somebody up or not.
I think the "blackball" situation is a little convient in some cases. I think the Murder Inc / Death Row / Rap-A-Lot deal didn't happen because it was three powerful CEO's who couldn't come to a business agreement. Three labels like that means three egos. Bottom line if the deal was worth money to Def Jam, Interscope, or whoever, they would have taken it. I'm definitely not arguing that labels were weary of doing business with Knight because of how the F.B.I. was fucking with him or his constant legal troubles but there was still a means for Death Row to do business. Suge's name held value. Death Row still had distribution to hit every major retail market out there. They weren't gonna get MTV or national radio love like they use to but even if they got into a partnership with a major, it still would have been tricky at that point.
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fuck suge. yer he gave money to help start dr and hooked up pac wit dr but alotta shit that fucked up dr and the west coast was down to him.
a) why the fuck make it an all out west vs east beef
b) guy cant take credit for doggystyle/chronic etc he didnt do shit
c) guy brought a bad rep to the west led to alotta people gettin blackballed
d) put alotta dr projects on hold for other shit like christmas on dr smh (Nates, Dre & Cube, Chronic 2 etc)
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I think there is too much an emphasis on who or what caused the demise of the label Deathrow. Just like everything in life and especially music labels or artist, had its peak in the 90s and had no where to go but down.
Motown, Def Jam, were rulers of the respective industries at one point as well. Every good thing eventually comes to a end.
People want to discredit the man because of what is in the present but he started that shit and was excellent at being the executive and choosing talent. Deathrow took two or three steps above what previous labels had done and continue to be one of the most copied labels the way business is done today.
Bad Boy, No Limit, Roc-a-fella, Murder Inc...all I'm sure will show props to Suge Knight for a map to success.
You put hip hop artistry strictly in the hands of these big rich executives that don't have any sense of what the true form of our music is and you get the music of today.
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thats the shit im talkin bout... these mothafuckaz plotted 2 take down suge with the help of illumaniti member snoop.. how u think he got off a murder charge? n he say it in MWTC when he say sumthin like he sold his soul 2 the devil... his music went from street shit 2 commercial shit.. but i bet half of u r 2 dumb 2 understand shit like that..
LOL LOL LOL your a fucking fag
SNOOP A MEMBER OF THE ILLUMINATI HSAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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only bloods post in red
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eurowiggers run this board
someone from poland arguing with someone from germany over whos more of a blood gangmember and more GANG$TER
lmfao
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I think there is too much an emphasis on who or what caused the demise of the label Deathrow. Just like everything in life and especially music labels or artist, had its peak in the 90s and had no where to go but down.
Motown, Def Jam, were rulers of the respective industries at one point as well. Every good thing eventually comes to a end.
People want to discredit the man because of what is in the present but he started that shit and was excellent at being the executive and choosing talent. Deathrow took two or three steps above what previous labels had done and continue to be one of the most copied labels the way business is done today.
Bad Boy, No Limit, Roc-a-fella, Murder Inc...all I'm sure will show props to Suge Knight for a map to success.
You put hip hop artistry strictly in the hands of these big rich executives that don't have any sense of what the true form of our music is and you get the music of today.
copy a successful formula, really?
so there are other CEO's that chose to wear a red dress, gather a few tough guys & steal contracts?
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And if he didn't do that your bf dre would have been stuck being eazy es bitch and wouldn't have had the chance to steal big hutchs ideas and make the chronic.
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You put hip hop artistry strictly in the hands of these big rich executives that don't have any sense of what the true form of our music is and you get the music of today.
You really think it was much different back then? The music might have been different but the executives were still calling the shots then.
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And if he didn't do that your bf dre would have been stuck being eazy es bitch and wouldn't have had the chance to steal big hutchs ideas and make the chronic.
again, i'm not NIK so try again ;)
all jokes aside, do you really think Dre had more freedom at death row, than he had with ruthless? :loco: do you use crack?
also, after Dre ran away, Eazy-E actually managed to get 25% off of Dre's sales, after negotiating with interscope.
you don't have to be Einstein to figure out that Dre would have been better off if he had renegotiated with Ruthless Records.
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You really think dre would have been better off staying at ruthless?now who's smoking crack.
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You really think dre would have been better off staying at ruthless?now who's smoking crack.
hehe, nice try to turn it around but you failed.
first of all, i never stated that the only option is that Dre should have stayed: renegotiating is not equal to staying.
i mean, one of the possibilities is, that they would have parted ways.
2nd, you're assuming that Dre got ripped off at Ruthless, as you have no proper base for it.
Dre felt this way, which is something different.
however, he never told this to Eazy or Jerry, yet he did plan his escape secretly.
so he basically turned his back to the negotiation table.
look you could argue whether Dre got paid for was worth, with the contract he had, but that's subjective & difficult to determine.
but it's a fact that Dre wanted a spot like Eazy's + get paid as much as Eazy-E.
that isn't fair, as Dre didn't run Ruthless.
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Dude it was cool that he got shit started back in the days! But he didnt know how to maintain the fortune & fame! So he fucked shit off! Thats his own fault for goin' TO JAIL NOT dRE NOT sNOOPY OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. Bigszy jus cause he fucked up dont take it out on other cats like Snoopy Dre or DPG he tried to fuck them! Royalties & Masterz c'mon homie do some research bfore you start name droppin BRUH!Fuckin' up the recordin' SESSIONS! I think if you get rid of the red font foolz around here might show you some luv but I doubt it you done dug ur self in a red hole with ya commentz! >:(
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The fact is Dr.dre would not have the career he has had without suge knight.If suge hadn't saved him then the chronic would never have happened or doggystyle for that matter.he would have just been another act on ruthless.
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The fact is Dr.dre would not have the career he has had without suge knight.If suge hadn't saved him then the chronic would never have happened or doggystyle for that matter.he would have just been another act on ruthless.
that's not a fact; you're just believing in your thick headed version of the truth.
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wats wrong with ownin the masters n shit? dnt 4get- nate, snoop, warren g n most of dpg had fuck all b4 suge signed em.. nate said his self that they didnt even have enough money 2 get to the deathrow studios n they spent most nights in there coz they didnt have much place else 2 go.. then came along big suge who gave these bitches everythin n the ungratefull fucks went n bit the hand that fed em!!!
dre stole half the shit from other not so well known producers at deathrow.. n u red about the production 4 makavelli- when pac used the producers that no 1 wanted 2 use n then snoopy n rest of dpg bitches turn around n start moanin that pac get the best production n shit... come on, wat the fuck was all that shit bout!!
there were gangbangers at deathrow but that gave the rappers a sense of protection.. thats why deathrow could diss whoever they wanted.. dpg werent real gangbangers anyway.. fake ass bitches..
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dpg werent real gangbangers anyway.. fake ass bitches..
Daz and Kurupt wasn't even sportin blue at first and all of a sudden startin claimin shit, but some of the DPG members was real Crips.
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yeah some wre, but am talkin bout the well-known members like the ones mentioned
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real gangstas use a yellow font
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real gangstas use a yellow font
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Here's a fact your creepy love for Dr dre blinds you from seeing the truth
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wats wrong with ownin the masters n shit? dnt 4get- nate, snoop, warren g n most of dpg had fuck all b4 suge signed em.. nate said his self that they didnt even have enough money 2 get to the deathrow studios n they spent most nights in there coz they didnt have much place else 2 go.. then came along big suge who gave these bitches everythin n the ungratefull fucks went n bit the hand that fed em!!!
dre stole half the shit from other not so well known producers at deathrow.. n u red about the production 4 makavelli- when pac used the producers that no 1 wanted 2 use n then snoopy n rest of dpg bitches turn around n start moanin that pac get the best production n shit... come on, wat the fuck was all that shit bout!!
there were gangbangers at deathrow but that gave the rappers a sense of protection.. thats why deathrow could diss whoever they wanted.. dpg werent real gangbangers anyway.. fake ass bitches..
What does anyone need protection from in the studio? It's a work enviroment. You have security at the doors to keep the wrong people out in the first place. Death Row had excellent security. Hence, no need to have gangbangers in the studio. Many have disputed that this was one of Suge's worst contributions to the music business. People view the studio as sacred. There shouldn't be anyone in there that isn't producing, performing, or in some way or another, contributing directly to the production of the records.
And what is this "everything" that Suge gave them? Let's look at this objectively. Suge helped them make a name for themselves but he was well compensated for it. They don't owe Suge any more than Suge should owe Jimmy Iovine. It's a business. At least for Interscope's part, Suge was a multi-millionaire. The artists on Death Row all left with no money. Many of them were bankrupt. Should they all be thankful to Suge for the opportunity to make him rich? I mean, if it's only about the fame then what seperates Death Row from all these other major labels? Shouldn't every artist just stay put on whatever label gave them their first break? After all, that label "made" them? Doesn't that make Suge an ingrate for biting the hand that fed him when he dissed Interscope? After all, as long as someone puts your face on TV and voice on the radio, you owe them your livelihood even if they are making a killing off your publishing. That's just how it goes.
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wats wrong with ownin the masters n shit? dnt 4get- nate, snoop, warren g n most of dpg had fuck all b4 suge signed em.. nate said his self that they didnt even have enough money 2 get to the deathrow studios n they spent most nights in there coz they didnt have much place else 2 go.. then came along big suge who gave these bitches everythin n the ungratefull fucks went n bit the hand that fed em!!!
dre stole half the shit from other not so well known producers at deathrow.. n u red about the production 4 makavelli- when pac used the producers that no 1 wanted 2 use n then snoopy n rest of dpg bitches turn around n start moanin that pac get the best production n shit... come on, wat the fuck was all that shit bout!!
there were gangbangers at deathrow but that gave the rappers a sense of protection.. thats why deathrow could diss whoever they wanted.. dpg werent real gangbangers anyway.. fake ass bitches..
suge & his gangbangers, what happened 2 them that 1 night in vegas suge real gangsta fat cunt
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Here's a fact your creepy love for Dr dre blinds you from seeing the truth
haha yeah, you keep losing ;D
you got no arguments, but a desire for arguing :laugh:
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dpg werent real gangbangers anyway.. fake ass bitches..
Daz and Kurupt wasn't even sportin blue at first and all of a sudden startin claimin shit, but some of the DPG members was real Crips.
actually i think in kurupt's most earliest work, he made references to 6-0 , and snoop even on his 213 demo tapes with warren was reppin gang affiliations.
at that time, snoop was reppin the insanes, but i guess he never got initiated into them, and later became a member of the 20's.
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actually i think in kurupt's most earliest work, he made references to 6-0 , and snoop even on his 213 demo tapes with warren was reppin gang affiliations.
at that time, snoop was reppin the insanes, but i guess he never got initiated into them, and later became a member of the 20's.
No he didn't, he sold drugs and knew Crips but i don't think was a real gangbanger. Come on now, on "Murder Was The Case" soundtrack he was claimin the 60's.
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I have arguements but its pointless to argue with you because your so obsessed with dre that it blinds for seeing anything else.Hence your odd thought that somehow dre would be where he is without suges help.
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What's next are you going to say dre would have made his comeback without eminem either?
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actually i think in kurupt's most earliest work, he made references to 6-0 , and snoop even on his 213 demo tapes with warren was reppin gang affiliations.
at that time, snoop was reppin the insanes, but i guess he never got initiated into them, and later became a member of the 20's.
No he didn't, he sold drugs and knew Crips but i don't think was a real gangbanger. Come on now, on "Murder Was The Case" soundtrack he was claimin the 60's.
i was going to edit my post and say "supposedly" later became a member of the 20's, but i just left it.
i dont know if he is or not as a fact, but snoop claims he is a member of the 20's. do you know as a fact he isnt or....?
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actually i think in kurupt's most earliest work, he made references to 6-0 , and snoop even on his 213 demo tapes with warren was reppin gang affiliations.
at that time, snoop was reppin the insanes, but i guess he never got initiated into them, and later became a member of the 20's.
No he didn't, he sold drugs and knew Crips but i don't think was a real gangbanger. Come on now, on "Murder Was The Case" soundtrack he was claimin the 60's.
i was going to edit my post and say "supposedly" later became a member of the 20's, but i just left it.
i dont know if he is or not as a fact, but snoop claims he is a member of the 20's. do you know as a fact he isnt or....?
Ofcourse i don't know but i really doubt it since he was claimin Rollin 60's in 1994 and then all of a sudden he talkin about RTC.
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lol, he was claimin 60's?.... wow, thats the first time i heard that. which song did he say that? ???
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I have arguements but its pointless to argue with you because your so obsessed with dre that it blinds for seeing anything else.Hence your odd thought that somehow dre would be where he is without suges help.
hey it's not my fault that you fail :nahnah2:
Ha ha did it?I can't see my karma rating on my phone that's straight up making me laugh.I'm not backtracking anything I stand by everything I said.I only did this for amusement.I said it before I love to argue.everything in music boils down to an opinion anyways theirs no real right or wrong.I just like pissing people off...and yes I'm like this is in real life I can't help it.I tell everyone I'm an asshole and well its pretty much true
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=203302.msg2055118#msg2055118
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lol, he was claimin 60's?.... wow, thats the first time i heard that. which song did he say that? ???
Can't remember who said this shit years ago on here, but he said that Snoop is claimin the 60's by sayin this:
"Gimme the dice so I can break you niggas, i threw a C (C-I-X)" ("Who Got Some Gangsta Shit")
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lol, that aint referring to 6-0.
thats referring to gettin a six from rolling the dice, and saying it with a crip lingo/slang.
dice games being commonly played in the hood.
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lol, that aint referring to 6-0.
thats referring to gettin a six from rolling the dice, and saying it with a crip lingo/slang.
dice games being commonly played in the hood.
Aiight, good to know that.
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damn dude is riding suges dick hard eh...
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wats wrong with ownin the masters n shit? dnt 4get- nate, snoop, warren g n most of dpg had fuck all b4 suge signed em.. nate said his self that they didnt even have enough money 2 get to the deathrow studios n they spent most nights in there coz they didnt have much place else 2 go.. then came along big suge who gave these bitches everythin n the ungratefull fucks went n bit the hand that fed em!!!
dre stole half the shit from other not so well known producers at deathrow.. n u red about the production 4 makavelli- when pac used the producers that no 1 wanted 2 use n then snoopy n rest of dpg bitches turn around n start moanin that pac get the best production n shit... come on, wat the fuck was all that shit bout!!
there were gangbangers at deathrow but that gave the rappers a sense of protection.. thats why deathrow could diss whoever they wanted.. dpg werent real gangbangers anyway.. fake ass bitches..
What does anyone need protection from in the studio? It's a work enviroment. You have security at the doors to keep the wrong people out in the first place. Death Row had excellent security. Hence, no need to have gangbangers in the studio. Many have disputed that this was one of Suge's worst contributions to the music business. People view the studio as sacred. There shouldn't be anyone in there that isn't producing, performing, or in some way or another, contributing directly to the production of the records.
And what is this "everything" that Suge gave them? Let's look at this objectively. Suge helped them make a name for themselves but he was well compensated for it. They don't owe Suge any more than Suge should owe Jimmy Iovine. It's a business. At least for Interscope's part, Suge was a multi-millionaire. The artists on Death Row all left with no money. Many of them were bankrupt. Should they all be thankful to Suge for the opportunity to make him rich? I mean, if it's only about the fame then what seperates Death Row from all these other major labels? Shouldn't every artist just stay put on whatever label gave them their first break? After all, that label "made" them? Doesn't that make Suge an ingrate for biting the hand that fed him when he dissed Interscope? After all, as long as someone puts your face on TV and voice on the radio, you owe them your livelihood even if they are making a killing off your publishing. That's just how it goes.
Death Row while a company wasn't professional. Suge used aggressive tactics, threats of violence, and violent acts to get contracts.He beat people who were working.The fact is, they smoked weed, got drunk and did a bunch of shit in the studios.
Also LOL SUge isn't no multi-millonaire anymore, the fat fuck lost DR and his mansion lmao He can't even get Blac Ball Recordz of the ground. IMO Suge/Dre were what made Death Row the best. Suge with his strong armed tactics was able to broker the deals, and with Dre running/producing the music it was golden.Suge fucked up death Row when he added tupac. He forced everyone to put their beats/lyrics into All Eyez on Me for Tupac.That alone pissed off dre to some extent. It was just 1 of the few reasons why he left.
Personally I feel, Death Row wasn't Death Row anymore. It was Tupac's Label in the end.Everything was to surround him, Hyped up around him. He owned The West Coast/Death Row during his time on their. That's why I think a lot of the artist started to get cliquish over prodducers/singers because they didn't want to lose anymore to Tupac. I mean Tupac was just using what suge gave him, and he gave people a chance. He took producers no one else fucked with, gave em a chance and they shined.IMO Death Row just started to come unraveling when Tupac had came on it, mainly because of how Suge made people put into the All Eyez on me project, and that he was basically the only artist receiving attention (I've searched for stuff in those years, Its all basically coming up with tupac)
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Well suge was quoted as saying all he needed was pac and though it was true he gambled it and lost everything.The westcoast hasn't been the same since that night in Vegas...
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You put hip hop artistry strictly in the hands of these big rich executives that don't have any sense of what the true form of our music is and you get the music of today.
You really think it was much different back then? The music might have been different but the executives were still calling the shots then.
I didn't say it was any different just pointed out that this is the way it is today and you don't have any more Suge Knights or big drug dealer kingpin's that really from the streets running successful labels or have the backing from big distributors like Suge did. They are venturing other more prosperous avenues.
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dre was a star before he went to death row
he wouldve continued to be a star in the industry but without the DOC talking Dr Dre into doing the Chronic Dre's career wouldn't be what it is
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dre was a star before he went to death row
he wouldve continued to be a star in the industry but without the DOC talking Dr Dre into doing the Chronic Dre's career wouldn't be what it is
true
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Anyone who thinks Suge made Dre and Snoop is as much a fool as Suge ended up becoming...Dre was already top notch production wise and Snoop would have been successful wherever he signed...Cream always rises to the top and Snoops was the shit back then...Now whether or not they would have become as big, I don't know but having that kind of talent also made Suge who he is or should I say who he could have become without the nonsense.
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lazoo aka iron dyke strikes again with unprecedented groupie love and wigger tendancies.
hey lazoo you try so hard to be down that you make clint dogg look like tray deee.
...............right mate!!!!
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lol, that aint referring to 6-0.
thats referring to gettin a six from rolling the dice, and saying it with a crip lingo/slang.
dice games being commonly played in the hood.
actually i think in kurupt's most earliest work, he made references to 6-0 , and snoop even on his 213 demo tapes with warren was reppin gang affiliations.
at that time, snoop was reppin the insanes, but i guess he never got initiated into them, and later became a member of the 20's.
i was going to edit my post and say "supposedly" later became a member of the 20's, but i just left it.
i dont know if he is or not as a fact, but snoop claims he is a member of the 20's. do you know as a fact he isnt or....?
lol, he was claimin 60's?.... wow, thats the first time i heard that. which song did he say that? ???
All this obsession with westcoast gangs and this is someone who lives in australia everybody...
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One Word Killed Death Row "Illuminati"
What happened when SUGE KNIGHT, J-PRINCE & IRV GOTTI were going to combine money and resources to create the first black owned distribution company? The Jews ithat run the record industry got hella scared and tried to demolish all three. Rap-a-lot was the only production company that survived. Yeah Irv one his case however murder inc died...
Killuminati, word.
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I think the thing that killed Death Row was the MGM fight
Keefee D shot Pac later
and everythings been downhill since
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You really think dre would have been better off staying at ruthless?now who's smoking crack.
hehe, nice try to turn it around but you failed.
first of all, i never stated that the only option is that Dre should have stayed: renegotiating is not equal to staying.
i mean, one of the possibilities is, that they would have parted ways.
2nd, you're assuming that Dre got ripped off at Ruthless, as you have no proper base for it.
Dre felt this way, which is something different.
however, he never told this to Eazy or Jerry, yet he did plan his escape secretly.
so he basically turned his back to the negotiation table.
look you could argue whether Dre got paid for was worth, with the contract he had, but that's subjective & difficult to determine.
but it's a fact that Dre wanted a spot like Eazy's + get paid as much as Eazy-E.
that isn't fair, as Dre didn't run Ruthless.
Dr. Dre wasn't getting proper compensation for his production/the N.W.A. albums. His contract couldn't renogitation, Suge used Violence to get him released.Even then, Eazy E secured a Publishing clause for 6 years that anything dre creates, Ruthless Records will get a percentage of (as for how much, I'm not sure, but Eazy was fine with the diss, so I'm guessing it was a lot)
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You really think dre would have been better off staying at ruthless?now who's smoking crack.
hehe, nice try to turn it around but you failed.
first of all, i never stated that the only option is that Dre should have stayed: renegotiating is not equal to staying.
i mean, one of the possibilities is, that they would have parted ways.
2nd, you're assuming that Dre got ripped off at Ruthless, as you have no proper base for it.
Dre felt this way, which is something different.
however, he never told this to Eazy or Jerry, yet he did plan his escape secretly.
so he basically turned his back to the negotiation table.
look you could argue whether Dre got paid for was worth, with the contract he had, but that's subjective & difficult to determine.
but it's a fact that Dre wanted a spot like Eazy's + get paid as much as Eazy-E.
that isn't fair, as Dre didn't run Ruthless.
Dr. Dre wasn't getting proper compensation for his production/the N.W.A. albums. His contract couldn't renogitation, Suge used Violence to get him released.Even then, Eazy E secured a Publishing clause for 6 years that anything dre creates, Ruthless Records will get a percentage of (as for how much, I'm not sure, but Eazy was fine with the diss, so I'm guessing it was a lot)
and this is a fact how?
also, how are you so sure that there was no option for re-negotiation?
Dre ran away!
then Ruthless didn't want to release him.
and even if Dre's contract trapped him, it's his own fault, as he signed the thing in the first place.
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EAZY E MADE 1 DOLLAR FOR EVERY COPY OF "THE CHRONIC" BEING SOLD
"the same records thata your making is paying me...motherfuck Dre motherfuck snoop motherfuck death row, here comes my left blow"
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The fact is Dr.dre would not have the career he has had without suge knight.If suge hadn't saved him then the chronic would never have happened or doggystyle for that matter.he would have just been another act on ruthless.
Just another act on Ruthless? Are you not aware that Dr. Dre was pretty big before DR?
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The fact is Dr.dre would not have the career he has had without suge knight.If suge hadn't saved him then the chronic would never have happened or doggystyle for that matter.he would have just been another act on ruthless.
Just another act on Ruthless? Are you not aware that Dr. Dre was pretty big before DR?
LOL evidently he had never heard of the N.W.A. or their 2 hit albums
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He was known as someone in a group and he was the third man in that group behind cube and eazy and had no solo star power at that time.
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I've always spoke on this situation. And I did agree with how Suge GANGSTA'd the industry because they have been raping artists' for YEARS!!! BUT after HE did that HE turned around and became just like them which makes him WORST!! ??? There is a saying "DONT CUT OFF YOUR NOSE TO SMITE YOUR FACE!" But thats what he did. Cuz on some real shit EVERYBODY THOUGHT he had power but if he would have left out the BULLYING (WELL SOME OF THESE HIGH POWERED RECORD EXECS NEEDED TO GET IT) for cheating and ruining people's lives all these years, But outside of them just stuck with helping, of course some would've have been ungrateful that comes with the territory, PUT YOUR FAITH IN NO MAN! but Imagine if he would have helped more people than he hurt, EVERYBODY INCLUDING MYSELF would HAVE been down 2 RIDE for HIM thats POWERRRRR!! :o If Im putting food on so many different peoples tables and those people made so much they could feed people and so and so on, And if ANYBODY would have talked about doing something to him he would have had people he did'nt even KNOW, RIDIN for HIM! NOW THATS POWERRRRR!!!!! THATS WHAT THE FUCK WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING!! "ALL 4 ONE, ONE 4 ALL, UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL!!"
THE HARDEST ARTIST!! 2COOL!! 8) myspace.com/opnmyndedent
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He was known as someone in a group and he was the third man in that group behind cube and eazy and had no solo star power at that time.
all of NWA was famous and Dr dre had gained popularity in the news/media for his attack on Dee Barnes
Dre was known for being the producer of NWA, Eazy E and the DOC, all having platinum albums
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Since when did being known and producing a couple platinum albums mean your solo stuff is going to sell.I'm not saying dre would be some nobody because he already was somebody.but without suges help he would not be who he is today and that goes for everyone else on deathrow even 2PAC.pac sold records but when he hooked up with suge he was on another level.Death row was a hype machine all the drama suge stirred up garaunteed sales and backed up the gangsta image the rappers talked about.
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how old are you?
2pac was HUGELY famous before 1995...
Dre was well known too by anybody who was a hip hop head. Eazy mentioned him in damn near every song and the NWA-Ice Cube beef got big too.
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I didn't say he wasn't but when he went to deathrow it took it to another level.just because dre was mentioned a bunch of times doesn't mean shit.why are people so hell bent in thinking suge wasn't instrumental in peoples careers.yes he did a lot of fucked up shit and he was the reason death row didn't last.But to just write off what he did is ignorant.I garauntee you ask the artists themselves they will tell you suge helped them tremendously.
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im just playing devils advocate
Suge helped raised things to another level for sure, best african american label owner ever (on paper, not in person)
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I don't know why I was thinking about this, but does Suge appear in one of those old Murder Inc videos or am I tripping? For some reason I remember that...
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I think Death Row made Dr. Dre into a superstar. But when I say "Death Row", I don't mean just Suge Knight. I think the trio of Dre, Suge, and Snoop all made the early years of Death Row into what it was. I think without one, either of the other two might not have had what they did. I think Dre was arguably destined to be where he was though. The major labels knew what Dre had. There is a reason why Interscope scooped Death Row up from under Dick Griffey. There was a reason why Suge had as much power as he did. They were actually going to get an even better deal with Sony before questions began to come up about how Dre got his release from Ruthless.
As far as Pac, his career was where it was. Death Row or not, he was already a major superstar. I think Suge hit the lottery with that one.
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Since when did being known and producing a couple platinum albums mean your solo stuff is going to sell.I'm not saying dre would be some nobody because he already was somebody.but without suges help he would not be who he is today and that goes for everyone else on deathrow even 2PAC.pac sold records but when he hooked up with suge he was on another level.Death row was a hype machine all the drama suge stirred up garaunteed sales and backed up the gangsta image the rappers talked about.
I didn't say he wasn't but when he went to deathrow it took it to another level.just because dre was mentioned a bunch of times doesn't mean shit.why are people so hell bent in thinking suge wasn't instrumental in peoples careers.yes he did a lot of fucked up shit and he was the reason death row didn't last.But to just write off what he did is ignorant.I garauntee you ask the artists themselves they will tell you suge helped them tremendously.
"talking like they ruthless"
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The fact is Dr.dre would not have the career he has had without suge knight.If suge hadn't saved him then the chronic would never have happened or doggystyle for that matter.he would have just been another act on ruthless.
Just another act on Ruthless? Are you not aware that Dr. Dre was pretty big before DR?
LOL evidently he had never heard of the N.W.A. or their 2 hit albums
I got all 4 Hit albums 8) Love em all (I know N.W.A and the Posse isn't a true N.W.A album, but it has some old school flavor)
Dr. Dre was huge in the game before Death Row (I think we all can agree, that Death Row had help make him bigger with The Chronic/Doggystyle and G-Funk). N.W.A was notorious back in the day. Everyone knew who they were. Straight Outta Compton (My first rap CD btw) was so fucking huge, Imagine if it had actually had Radio/video play. The beef with Ice Cube (Who brought even more attention to do Amerikkka's Most Wanted being some damn good) just brought more attention. Producing Above The Law's first album, C.I.A, N.W.A, Eazy E, DOC. Dr. Dre was well established before Death Row. We just know him Death Row commonly because The Chronic's production was just so ground breaking at the time. Now I a put on some of the artist/Albums I mention 8)
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Well, Death Row also gave him his introduction as a solo act. Granted, he had a whole stable of young artists he was bringing in with him but he was the star name that was attached to it all. He was the superstar mentor who was introducing the next crop of stars. It was interesting because it was still very street like N.W.A but the sound was more laid back and the beats were becoming more smooth and melodic. Dre was flirting with this sound at Ruthless but he really perfected it when he got with The Dogg Pound.
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Well, Death Row also gave him his introduction as a solo act. Granted, he had a whole stable of young artists he was bringing in with him but he was the star name that was attached to it all. He was the superstar mentor who was introducing the next crop of stars. It was interesting because it was still very street like N.W.A but the sound was more laid back and the beats were becoming more smooth and melodic. Dre was flirting with this sound at Ruthless but he really perfected it when he got with The Dogg Pound.
I heard he didn't do any production of The Dogg Pound album.Dr. Dre had done production for the old C.I.A group (I have their album, which only contains 3 tracks lol,Sounding like the beasty boys). When he did the original N.W.A albums, his production was basic, and was so underground.EFIL4ZAGGIN showed how far he had came. The Chronic was just him at the top of his game. 2001 well, That was perfection. Hopefully Detox, will feature some new Technique.
Only thing I honestly don't want lol is him using The Atomic Dog sample anymore, He's used that shit to death. From The CHronic, Doggy style, to All Eyez XD I'm sorta wanting him to sample Zapp.Band is good, just imagined it Sampled, remixed and remastered :O
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I didn't mean The Dogg Pound like the group, Daz & Kurupt. I meant the Dogg Pound like Snoop's crew.
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Suge was not responsible for Dre's success. If Suge was responsible, cats like Crooked I, Eastwood, The Realist, etc would have been megastars.
Compare Dre's track record w/ Suge:
Dre had World Class Wreckin Cru (Turn off the lights), JJ Fad (Supersonic...later Fergalicious hate it or love it, lol) NWA - Ice Cube, Eazy E (LEGENDARY), Snoop (LEGENDARY), Eminem (LEGENDARY), 50 (Biggest single of the century)...
Dre had MAD success for years before and after Suge.
Suge helped get him outta Ruthless and that's it. If he was such a smart business man, he would have seen the value and genius in Dre and done everything he could to accomodate him and keep him on DR.
Suge was good at being a bully and getting into trouble. That's it. Stop giving him so much credit. You think those executive producer credits mean shit? He wasn't an artist at all.
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Well it was pretty obvious he was completely black balled from the industry after he got back from prison therefore he never had a chance.
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Well, Death Row also gave him his introduction as a solo act. Granted, he had a whole stable of young artists he was bringing in with him but he was the star name that was attached to it all. He was the superstar mentor who was introducing the next crop of stars. It was interesting because it was still very street like N.W.A but the sound was more laid back and the beats were becoming more smooth and melodic. Dre was flirting with this sound at Ruthless but he really perfected it when he got with The Dogg Pound.
I heard he didn't do any production of The Dogg Pound album.Dr. Dre had done production for the old C.I.A group (I have their album, which only contains 3 tracks lol,Sounding like the beasty boys). When he did the original N.W.A albums, his production was basic, and was so underground.EFIL4ZAGGIN showed how far he had came. The Chronic was just him at the top of his game. 2001 well, That was perfection. Hopefully Detox, will feature some new Technique.
Only thing I honestly don't want lol is him using The Atomic Dog sample anymore, He's used that shit to death. From The CHronic, Doggy style, to All Eyez XD I'm sorta wanting him to sample Zapp.Band is good, just imagined it Sampled, remixed and remastered :O
NWA's production basic?
LOL at the time it sure as fuck wasn't
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Well, Death Row also gave him his introduction as a solo act. Granted, he had a whole stable of young artists he was bringing in with him but he was the star name that was attached to it all. He was the superstar mentor who was introducing the next crop of stars. It was interesting because it was still very street like N.W.A but the sound was more laid back and the beats were becoming more smooth and melodic. Dre was flirting with this sound at Ruthless but he really perfected it when he got with The Dogg Pound.
I heard he didn't do any production of The Dogg Pound album.Dr. Dre had done production for the old C.I.A group (I have their album, which only contains 3 tracks lol,Sounding like the beasty boys). When he did the original N.W.A albums, his production was basic, and was so underground.EFIL4ZAGGIN showed how far he had came. The Chronic was just him at the top of his game. 2001 well, That was perfection. Hopefully Detox, will feature some new Technique.
Only thing I honestly don't want lol is him using The Atomic Dog sample anymore, He's used that shit to death. From The CHronic, Doggy style, to All Eyez XD I'm sorta wanting him to sample Zapp.Band is good, just imagined it Sampled, remixed and remastered :O
NWA's production basic?
LOL at the time it sure as fuck wasn't
I'm talking about his N.W.A and the Posse n.w.a singles (they were still amazing) but 100 miles, Nigga4life, That's where his production really shined. Hell Niggaz4life production is way better then a lot of albums today (and more gangsta).The worse production I've seen was the C.I.A shit. lol If you hear that, That's basic.The 3 songs are OK gotta em on MP3, Music history lol
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message 2 suge: money (is) over (you) bitch ;D
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Well it was pretty obvious he was completely black balled from the industry after he got back from prison therefore he never had a chance.
He was on the covers of both The Source and XXL after his prison bid. He was getting interviewed by all the entertainment magazine TV shows like Entertainment Tonight. He was on Carson Daily's nationwide late night show on NBC. He got to go up on Hot 97 many times. He was on Howard Stern. He did the Wendy Williams show on VH1. All of those publications and programs reach hundreds of millions of people. He never used that time to promote projects.
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eurowiggers run this board
someone from poland arguing with someone from germany over whos more of a blood gangmember and more GANG$TER
On a side note - I'm really tired of this eurowiggers and eurofags bullshit that's going on here.. As much as I like this forum, that particular subject is just fuckin' annoying! You got some problem dude with us being from the Europe and contributing to the topics featured on this board?
Everytime I read this bullshit makes me fuckin' sick!
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Good music , but the guy's a dick