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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Trizzle on May 04, 2009, 04:42:53 AM
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http://www.zshare.net/audio/59578750316027f6/ ;)
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shot thanks man going to give it a listen now :)
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yeah this shits dope alot better than 'we made you' & '3 a.m.' props for the hookup man
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http://rapidshare.com/files/229030710/01_old_time_s_sake__feat._dr._dre_.mp3
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props downloading now 8)
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...that fuckn accent is here to stay
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FUCKING ACCENT!
The worst thing is that he uses his normal voice on the chours and it sounds 10x better. Dre basically does 2 intros and then raps in the last verse, pretty dope verse and his delivery is perfect like always but all together nothing spectacular. The beat is your typical Dre beat for Eminem, nothing surprising here.
I am no longer anticipating the album because of that fucking accent, I'm only checking it for Dre beats.
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I am no longer anticipating the album because of that fucking accent.
seriously wtf? You would think SOMEONE at the Aftermath camp would point out how shitty it sounds
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dammit... I mean, it sounds good I guess. But I was expecting some next level shit... maybe I'm just too old, because I could see the younger generation gettin into this
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cool track 8)
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ok this beat is far better than the shit they been putting out so far from em. it still isn't very good by dre standards but at least there is some kind of bounce to it, definitely fits with the em/dre kinda vibe. vocals wise dre sounds good but em sounds terrible with the joking accent again. em should have just ripped into the beat with a more normal sounding voice and then you woulda had a cool track.
still, dre is leaving too much to the imagination with these average beats. i don't see how obie trice's first album had all those bangers on it from dre way back then and now they really need to sell some records eminem drops all these mediocre sounding singles. the bottom line is shit aint up to standard.
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Ok that shit go, first song I really like from Relapse leaks
maybe because that beat sounds more like old Dre stuff
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I have to say that this sound is what i've missed for years... Finally we got that Eminem sound like way back in Marshall Mathers LP... People says its his best album but they dont like his sound and accent now... Cant u figure out he's tying to get old times back... I'm very glad to hear him rappin like old Em...
BUT!!! a big BUT!!!! Dre's beats SUCK!!!! Damn!!!! I'm a huge Dre fan but he's working hard to make me a dre hater!!! why doenst he let FBT, Eminem, Scott handle some productions...
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reactions from someone i just sent this to:
- serious
- wassup with this voice he uses now?
- whats it meant to be?
- this would be alright if he used a normal voice
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I got to say it, the three tracks we've all heard so far are very generic, beats wise.
Em is on point with the lyrics and content, aside from that alien accent, but these
beats are way too simple. Any talented Dre-Wannabe producer can create these
beats. My guess is Dre did the best he could with Relapse seeing as how he has to
save the best for the most anticipated album in rap history, which is understandable.
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I disagree. Dre did his job beat wise, you have to look through the Em & Dre history and see that he rarely dropped something spectacular for Eminem, he creats a whole different sound for him. It's usually a simple backdrop and Em just doing his thing as an MC.
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I disagree. Dre did his job beat wise, you have to look through the Em & Dre history and see that he rarely dropped something spectacular for Eminem, he creats a whole different sound for him. It's usually a simple backdrop and Em just doing his thing as an MC.
Eh... in the past Dre made new and innovative beats for Eminem. This sounds generic at best.
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indeed. i immediately think of 'my name is' when it comes to dre making a fresh and funky beat for em to rap on. it was also well documented how hard they worked on the musical side of the earlier eminem material. this just sounds like a watered down dre style beat. very generic.
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I disagree. Dre did his job beat wise, you have to look through the Em & Dre history and see that he rarely dropped something spectacular for Eminem, he creats a whole different sound for him. It's usually a simple backdrop and Em just doing his thing as an MC.
Eh... in the past Dre made new and innovative beats for Eminem. This sounds generic at best.
Care to name one ? Other than Bitch Please 2 which was obviously intented for somebody like Snoop. Role Model, Gulity Concience, all the beats on Marshal Mathers (he did his best job on that album though), Eminem Show and don't even get me started on Encore. Best beats Em rapped on was from that duo I forgot their name, Jeff Bass and Mark or something like that.
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I disagree. Dre did his job beat wise, you have to look through the Em & Dre history and see that he rarely dropped something spectacular for Eminem, he creats a whole different sound for him. It's usually a simple backdrop and Em just doing his thing as an MC.
Eh... in the past Dre made new and innovative beats for Eminem. This sounds generic at best.
Care to name one ? Other than Bitch Please 2 which was obviously intented for somebody like Snoop. Role Model, Gulity Concience, all the beats on Marshal Mathers (he did his best job on that album though), Eminem Show and don't even get me started on Encore. Best beats Em rapped on was from that duo I forgot their name, Jeff Bass and Mark or something like that.
Guilty Conscience, Bad Guys Always Die, My Name Is (at the time that was new and inventive), Remember Me...
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Fuck this, he kind of got away with this accent on the previous 2 but not this, in fact if this is how eminem wants to be remembered, then he is a retard. It must be a combination of all the drugs he has been doing and some dickheads at interscope thinking this accent is funny or something. I am not even going to bother listening to the album. I was anticipating this album so much after the colossal bullshit which was encore but that's it. I will go back to SSLP and MMLP and the first D12 album so I can appreciate just how good he was.
This voice on this song makes the track unlistenable
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I disagree. Dre did his job beat wise, you have to look through the Em & Dre history and see that he rarely dropped something spectacular for Eminem, he creats a whole different sound for him. It's usually a simple backdrop and Em just doing his thing as an MC.
Eh... in the past Dre made new and innovative beats for Eminem. This sounds generic at best.
Care to name one ? Other than Bitch Please 2 which was obviously intented for somebody like Snoop. Role Model, Gulity Concience, all the beats on Marshal Mathers (he did his best job on that album though), Eminem Show and don't even get me started on Encore. Best beats Em rapped on was from that duo I forgot their name, Jeff Bass and Mark or something like that.
Guilty Conscience, Bad Guys Always Die, My Name Is (at the time that was new and inventive), Remember Me...
Gulity Conscience just had a simple piano beat with pretty much the same looop other than some guitar in the 2nd verse. Bad Guys Always Die wasn't on an official Eminem release :) and Remeber Me was also very simple, had the heavy bassline, that's it. I'll give you My Name Is.
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About Guilty Conscience... that track was a 10 out of 10. Perfect from top to bottom!
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About Guilty Conscience... that track was a 10 out of 10. Perfect from top to bottom!
Hey, don't get me wrong, I love that track. I'm just saying the beat wasn't anything groundbreaking.
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I disagree. Dre did his job beat wise, you have to look through the Em & Dre history and see that he rarely dropped something spectacular for Eminem, he creats a whole different sound for him. It's usually a simple backdrop and Em just doing his thing as an MC.
Eh... in the past Dre made new and innovative beats for Eminem. This sounds generic at best.
Care to name one ? Other than Bitch Please 2 which was obviously intented for somebody like Snoop. Role Model, Gulity Concience, all the beats on Marshal Mathers (he did his best job on that album though), Eminem Show and don't even get me started on Encore. Best beats Em rapped on was from that duo I forgot their name, Jeff Bass and Mark or something like that.
Guilty Conscience, Bad Guys Always Die, My Name Is (at the time that was new and inventive), Remember Me...
Gulity Conscience just had a simple piano beat with pretty much the same looop other than some guitar in the 2nd verse. Bad Guys Always Die wasn't on an official Eminem release :) and Remeber Me was also very simple, had the heavy bassline, that's it. I'll give you My Name Is.
My Names was only different because the sample was different. Don't make it soud like Dre did anything special he usually doesn't.
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The beat is dope, dre parts are cool
what the fuck i hate that accent its fucking stupid no one told him when he started doing it?
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Just gave this a spin, it's alright for what it's worth. The beat sounds like a tweaked version of Rain Man mixed with Dre's usual string patterns. Not as tight as 3 A.M. but even that took a minute to grow on me.
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one of the most generic Dre beats I have ever heard
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Dre & EM need to retire!
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beats real boring. they come alright on the rapping but the beat sucks. I prefer We Made u and 3am
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I disagree. Dre did his job beat wise, you have to look through the Em & Dre history and see that he rarely dropped something spectacular for Eminem, he creats a whole different sound for him. It's usually a simple backdrop and Em just doing his thing as an MC.
Dre's stuff is always simple, but the majority of the stuff he gave to Eminem is a lot better than this
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i thinks its halrious how people think that all the producer does is make the beat
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the production style on all these new eminem tracks follows a similar pattern. the drums are punchy and mixed very nicely but the overall sound is very FLAT and hollow. no real groove or thickness - low-end is extremely thin compared to the usual dre sound signature.
it is a very boring production style, i hope the acoustics of detox have nothing in common with this rubbish. you'd of thought they'd want to put out some fresher sounds on these singles to push the album hard.
you can argue that dre is doing a good job on the minmiliast beats but its not like em is carrying these records by himself very well. its fail on all levels and i'm pretty sure the sales will reflect the medicoracy of this 'comeback'.
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beats awesome! 8)
i love the lyrics, but the accent is kind of annoying.
the hook is fucking dope! 8)
i am convinced that the whole album is going to have the accent though. :-\
best song so far though. 8)
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beats awesome! 8)
i love the lyrics, but the accent is kind of annoying.
the hook is fucking dope! 8)
i am convinced that the whole album is going to have the accent though. :-\
best song so far though. 8)
there's no doubt in my mind.
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beats awesome! 8)
i love the lyrics, but the accent is kind of annoying.
the hook is fucking dope! 8)
i am convinced that the whole album is going to have the accent though. :-\
best song so far though. 8)
there's no doubt in my mind.
he should just use the voice he uses on the chorus, somebody send him the memo! :P
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beats awesome! 8)
i love the lyrics, but the accent is kind of annoying.
the hook is fucking dope! 8)
i am convinced that the whole album is going to have the accent though. :-\
best song so far though. 8)
there's no doubt in my mind.
he should just use the voice he uses on the chorus, somebody send him the memo! :P
don't forget about Crack a bottle.
i blame Dre as well though, he supports the direction
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well i just heard that they're saving all the really dope, groundbreaking material for relapse 3 :laugh:
relapse 1 is just the leftover crap, dre didn't even have half the machines turned on :laugh:
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well i just heard that they're saving all the really dope, groundbreaking material for relapse 3 :laugh:
relapse 1 is just the leftover crap, dre didn't even have half the machines turned on :laugh:
LOL :laugh:
you'd think that at least 4 albums are needed to accomplish that
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damn! shit is doooope
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wow at the terrible feedback...y'all expect too much
it's like unless a Dre beat is so different and has all these crazy new sounds, y'all don't like it..I rather have this "easy to make beat" (which is BANGING) then some new, cheesy sounding experimental shit.
Dre's verse is on point and the accent ain't as bad here. This a dope ass cut, the best from the album thus far.
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ok song at best...again eminem's accent fucks it up even more...good hook dont get why he had to fuk up his verse...for all of u saying this track is great or amazing, u have low ass standards for an em and dre track now
oo yea bangin beat but sounds the same as most of the other dre beats we heard from relapse
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when people come out with 'it aint that bad' or use words like 'decent' then you know your in trouble. we're talking about a giant artist on a major record label here - if it isn't super funky fresh and groundbreaking then its a complete failure in the bigger scheme of things. a lot of grasping at straws and low expectations these days.
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one of the most generic Dre beats I have ever heard
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wow at the terrible feedback...y'all expect too much
it's like unless a Dre beat is so different and has all these crazy new sounds, y'all don't like it..I rather have this "easy to make beat" (which is BANGING) then some new, cheesy sounding experimental shit.
Dre's verse is on point and the accent ain't as bad here. This a dope ass cut, the best from the album thus far.
what if it's just not good for "what it is"?
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yea, if i want to hear a washed up rapper with a stupid accent and and old man who is still making the same beats he was 10 years ago rapping about smoking, this is for me!
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Relapse instrumentals will be more bumpable than the real album.
this shit sucks
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what worries me is that this is probably the most bumpable track for me outta the 4 released so far.
We made u is soemthing only the hardcore eminem groupies who love everything he makes and call it a monster each and everytime will feel. I cant get into it myself at all. I've actually heard it quite a few times too which is funny, like its on alot when i be at the gym or whatever but i cant accept that for eminem at this stage of his career.
Crack a bottle is average to horrible in each and every aspect.
3 am is decent, its gotta nice hook and its not all that bad to be honest, its just not great either.
and this, which has a bouncy sorta beat, its energetic but it almost sounds like a beat eminem would make. It kinda reminds me of a simplified version of the beat eminem made for the game for his first album. The drums are nice and its made well and its energetic so its not a bad track, its just at this stage of eminems career, you would think dude would not be fucking with stupid acccents like this throughout a whole track pretty much. He actually flows pretty great on this, even soem of his words with the flow and the beat come off great but he is saying alot of stupid shit and the accent almost makes him sound like a clown. Im diggin the ways dre drops into the joint and his last verse, he almost is the track.
Im starting to worry about this, it almost feels like encore pt 2. A step up...lmao which aint saying much...
in order of how im digging the joints...
old times sake= intended uptempto track, nice to a certain extent, just eminem is almost a clown now, im nearly used to listening him like this on a track and without any shock now. lol...generic dre beat
3 am = not bad, solid album track - decent dre beat, sounds like a 50cent left over beat
we made u/crack a bottle= wack
thats just my opinions!
pz!
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Oh and about dres work with slim on MMLP and SSLP = GREAT ...everything since, either dre has been dissapointing or eminem has fucked up the track imo
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^^ I still don't understand what is so horrible about Crack A Bottle, minus the chours ? What exactly bothers you so much ?
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what worries me is that this is probably the most bumpable track for me outta the 4 released so far.
We made u is soemthing only the hardcore eminem groupies who love everything he makes and call it a monster each and everytime will feel. I cant get into it myself at all. I've actually heard it quite a few times too which is funny, like its on alot when i be at the gym or whatever but i cant accept that for eminem at this stage of his career.
Crack a bottle is average to horrible in each and every aspect.
3 am is decent, its gotta nice hook and its not all that bad to be honest, its just not great either.
and this, which has a bouncy sorta beat, its energetic but it almost sounds like a beat eminem would make. It kinda reminds me of a simplified version of the beat eminem made for the game for his first album. The drums are nice and its made well and its energetic so its not a bad track, its just at this stage of eminems career, you would think dude would not be fucking with stupid acccents like this throughout a whole track pretty much. He actually flows pretty great on this, even soem of his words with the flow and the beat come off great but he is saying alot of stupid shit and the accent almost makes him sound like a clown. Im diggin the ways dre drops into the joint and his last verse, he almost is the track.
Im starting to worry about this, it almost feels like encore pt 2. A step up...lmao which aint saying much...
in order of how im digging the joints...
old times sake= intended uptempto track, nice to a certain extent, just eminem is almost a clown now, im nearly used to listening him like this on a track and without any shock now. lol...generic dre beat
3 am = not bad, solid album track - decent dre beat, sounds like a 50cent left over beat
we made u/crack a bottle= wack
thats just my opinions!
pz!
agree
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And yo Mauzip, can you please cut Eminem out and just leave his chours + of course Dre raps. Thanks
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^^ I still don't understand what is so horrible about Crack A Bottle, minus the chours ? What exactly bothers you so much ?
Its supposed to be a feel good/club sorta track right? 'crack a bottle'...
The hook is almost something like a kid just spit on the mic for the first time, screaming some random shit which sounds terrible. Eminems verse actually is not very good, its not terrible but its just not good, he just seems like his screaming on it and the beat is to thick for his voice.
Dres verse is good and he actually sounds the most natural on the beat.
50 cents verse...or few bars are just there for no reason...can anyone tell me what his purpose was on the track? to add what? he dont sound bad on it, he just sounds out of place, its too random.
And the beat is boring, the original sample is wack and the joint is the sample.
And this all meant to be a club sorta track.The main things about a club track are the beat and the hook...both fail. Weak shit imo. I aint falling for no poor shit, im a huge dre fan, i loved alot of eminems tracks too and i like grodt, but i'll tell it like it is to me and this aint it for me.
I hope nas and marley still working on an album because thats top of my wish list now. When i first heard dre was producing a whole eminem album pretty much i was excited even with the calibre of dre shit for a while now. But after hearing all this, i'll still cop his album but just to sort of continue my collection more than anything lol.
thats just me though, im sure some will disagree, others agree ;-)
pz!
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Ok, fair enough. I can basically see your point about everything, except: why is 50 there ? This was a comeback joint from 3 of the biggest artist on Interscope, makes sense that he's there. If anyone seems out of place it's Eminem, I've actually cut him out of the track and I only have Dre and 50 and they mash well together. And I also don't see how this beat is boring. Dre has done a lot of boring beats since parting way with Elizondo but not this one: it has the horns, keys, piano, violins, orchestra voice; it actually works great for a staduim peformance or something like that.
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Storch & Dre >>>>>>>>Mike Elizondo, Mark Batson & Dre>>>>>> Dre by himself
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love this track. This must be the track Dre was talking about scratching on. 8)
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Here's a version without Eminem I made
enjoy
http://www.zshare.net/audio/59603847df5a97a4/
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Here's a version without Eminem I made
enjoy
http://www.zshare.net/audio/59603847df5a97a4/
Really ? I would have never gussed based on the title. :)
Thanks, sounds much better. It's actually a really cool joint now.
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its aite
production:its got that dre sound
ems part:wack cuz of that accent
chorus:better
dre's part:he came thru
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the version without em is much better! props.
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and jus proves dre can still spit, maybe not as "crisp" as he once did, but mos def better than 90% of the rappers out there
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dre always proves you dont have to have to have the most raw mc talent to sound great on records - the production and delivery can really make it. unforunately, eminem is demonstrating the opposite - you can be a dope rapper and still sound absolutely terrible on a track :laugh:
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Storch & Dre >>>>>>>>Mike Elizondo, Mark Batson & Dre>>>>>> Dre by himself
oh come on, stop crying about musicians
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not a bad track at all
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I like the track, just like i liked 3 am, & both crack & bottle & we made you grew on me
a little dissapointing
I'm hoping they grow on me.
No sure fire hit singles though
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FUCKING ACCENT!
The worst thing is that he uses his normal voice on the chours and it sounds 10x better. Dre basically does 2 intros and then raps in the last verse, pretty dope verse and his delivery is perfect like always but all together nothing spectacular. The beat is your typical Dre beat for Eminem, nothing surprising here.
I am no longer anticipating the album because of that fucking accent, I'm only checking it for Dre beats.
I couldn't say it any better :) I can't understand what he says, so I have to focus on that annoying voice
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Meh, this isnt bad but i was unrealistically hoping for something like 'Guilty Conscience' or 'Forgot About Dre', instead we got this, not bad just really average, seriously lol at the use of the accent, does everyone at aftermath seem to like miss it? or is it just that 'its eminem' so no-one, not even dre has the balls to say anything? cos seriously WTF, this retarded/monotone accent is killing all these tracks, atleast it was nice to hear Dre rap again :) even if he was tryna blague that he still smokes weed, beats kool but it lacks something, its generic almost sounds like eminem tried to impersonate a Dre beat and well this was all he could come up with
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Doctor Dre sounded really fatigued with trying to flow with the beat. Probably he has ran out of telomeres. Isn't he almost 50? The beat is nothing special... again. I hope he's saving all the good stuff to himself.
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Storch & Dre >>>>>>>>Mike Elizondo, Mark Batson & Dre>>>>>> Dre by himself
Dre needs Elizondo and Storch, they both played a big part in "2001" and are both great producers.
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Storch & Dre >>>>>>>>Mike Elizondo, Mark Batson & Dre>>>>>> Dre by himself
Dre needs Elizondo and Storch, they both played a big part in "2001" and are both great producers.
Dr. Dre & Sam Sneed>>>>>>>>>>>>>any production combo you can think of
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Storch & Dre >>>>>>>>Mike Elizondo, Mark Batson & Dre>>>>>> Dre by himself
Dre needs Elizondo and Storch, they both played a big part in "2001" and are both great producers.
Dr. Dre & Sam Sneed>>>>>>>>>>>>>any production combo you can think of
Dre & Mel Man, Dre & Daz>>>>>>>>>any combo
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Storch & Dre >>>>>>>>Mike Elizondo, Mark Batson & Dre>>>>>> Dre by himself
Dre needs Elizondo and Storch, they both played a big part in "2001" and are both great producers.
Dr. Dre & Sam Sneed>>>>>>>>>>>>>any production combo you can think of
Dre and Sam Sneed didn't even produce that much together, it was Dre/Sneed/J.Flexx.
Storch & Dre >>>>>>>>Mike Elizondo, Mark Batson & Dre>>>>>> Dre by himself
Dre needs Elizondo and Storch, they both played a big part in "2001" and are both great producers.
Dr. Dre & Sam Sneed>>>>>>>>>>>>>any production combo you can think of
Dre & Mel Man, Dre & Daz>>>>>>>>>any combo
Dre & Mel Man are great together, they produced "2001" but if you look at the credits from the booklet you see that Mike Elizondo was involved in making of almost every beat from the album. Dre & Daz made some great shit too, but that won't happen again.
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A dope cut here . I like this one . Thumping beat with some scratches and solid lyrics as well. This is a keeper...
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Pretty little song... Damn, I guess they really lost the magic. We're far from the 2001 days. And with all those years in the studio, why would Dre use a beat we already heard in a commercial?..
I want to hear a mind blowing Dre beat, didn't happen in a long time. Last one was Cocaina. Those Relapse songs are nice, but nothing over the top.
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Dre & EM need to retire!
sadly, you may be right. As much as I wish you were wrong.
Dre got me into hip-hop in 1993 when I saw him and Snoop in the "Wit A Dre Day" video. And then Eminem was like a hero for white hip-hop heads, because he was a white dude working with Dre who could rap circles around the heavyweights in the game. Anyway... enough about that...
THIS SHIT FUCKIN SUCKS! I've been in denial. I wanted to like this album so bad because I'm desperate for some decent hip-hop. But I can't force myself to like this. All 4 songs we've heard so far have not been better than anything Eminem did on his first 3 albums. Give me the worst song off of SSLP, MMLP, and Eminem Show, and it is better than the 3 lead singles we've heard for Relapse.
WE'VE HEARD 4 SONGS NOW AND STILL NOTHING THAT IS ANY BETTER THAN HIS WORST TRACKS OFF HIS FIRST 3 ALBUMS. OR EVEN THE FIRST D-12 ALBUM.
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dr. dre, mel-man>>>>>>
Storch & Dre >>>>>>>>Mike Elizondo, Mark Batson & Dre>>>>>> Dre by himself
Dre needs Elizondo and Storch, they both played a big part in "2001" and are both great producers.
Dr. Dre & Sam Sneed>>>>>>>>>>>>>any production combo you can think of
Dre and Sam Sneed didn't even produce that much together, it was Dre/Sneed/J.Flexx.
Storch & Dre >>>>>>>>Mike Elizondo, Mark Batson & Dre>>>>>> Dre by himself
Dre needs Elizondo and Storch, they both played a big part in "2001" and are both great producers.
Dr. Dre & Sam Sneed>>>>>>>>>>>>>any production combo you can think of
Dre & Mel Man, Dre & Daz>>>>>>>>>any combo
Dre & Mel Man are great together, they produced "2001" but if you look at the credits from the booklet you see that Mike Elizondo was involved in making of almost every beat from the album. Dre & Daz made some great shit too, but that won't happen again.
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dr. dre, mel-man>>>>>>
True, but I would like Dr. Dre and Sneed. Imagine a Natural Born Killaz or Keep Their Heads Ringing Part II with a new funky sound. Woo.
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yeah keep their heads ringin part 2 sounds dope
i dont know theres something bout mel-man that sets him apart from this world(of people and muzik)
hes a cold producer on them boards, and he hasnt even done much work, but the work that hes done is different and dope.
dr. dre, mel-man>>>>>>
True, but I would like Dr. Dre and Sneed. Imagine a Natural Born Killaz or Keep Their Heads Ringing Part II with a new funky sound. Woo.
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Pretty little song... Damn, I guess they really lost the magic. We're far from the 2001 days. And with all those years in the studio, why would Dre use a beat we already heard in a commercial?..
I want to hear a mind blowing Dre beat, didn't happen in a long time. Last one was Cocaina. Those Relapse songs are nice, but nothing over the top.
The Dr Dre your looking to hear has never given Emienm those types of beats. The beats Em gets from Dre are usually more pop sounding. He gives different beats to different artists. For instance, you'd never hear Eminem over Cocaina, and you'd never hear 50 over We Made You.... Your not gonna get that next level music till Detox and maybe a couple off Before I Self Destruct.
Just take it for what it is. Personally I think the vocal arrangement and over all PRODUCTION (not just beat making) of this song is really dope.
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alchemist being em's dj i was actually hoping there would be some alchemist beats on relapse, hopefully they're on relapse 2
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I dont know, this could take it back to the "eminem" he once used to be
guess well see
it dont sound like it, but jus maybe