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Title: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 07, 2009, 07:45:26 PM
Em has seriously fallen off from what we've heard leaked from Relapse. 50 is spitting the same old tired formula and selling less and gaining more haters with every album. G-Unit never took off. Dre doesn't fuck with Cube anymore, and he barely works with Snoop aside from throwing him a track on every other album...and these are the two we want Dre to be working with. He needs to do the same thing with 50 and Em. Cast em off they are perfectly capable of using other producers. Fuck BISD, fuck Relapse and Relapse 2. Put out Detox, put out The Reformation, sign a rapper like Crooked I or someone with some talent and actually have them put out an album. I'm tired of this bullshit and all these delays.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Matty on May 07, 2009, 07:55:02 PM
good points. i've lost a lot of faith in dre's abilitiy recently and hope to hear something that will make me believe that he's that dude again. unfortunately the eminem album did not provide this - quite the opposite.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Blasphemy on May 07, 2009, 07:57:45 PM
I say calm the fuck down, bang out The Chronic, 2001, Doggystyle, The Doggfather,Cypress Hill's first 4 albums, Mc Ren and N.W.A.. Its a fucking album, not the resurrection of Christ. But yeah I do agree some what, he needs to start pushing a head on his work.He spends to much working on his music for perfection.Infact only albums i'm waiting on are Detox, The Relapse 1 and 2, The reformation, Ice-Cube's next album, The Games next album. None of these will be dropping any time soon, I haven't gotten a word on any release dates. Only the Generality of "Its coming this year".Fuckers say its done, some say its not.Some say its Canceled.Your best bet is not to get into the Hype or draw out the wait, bang out the classic tunes we have and when it comes enjoy it.  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Fatdodger on May 07, 2009, 08:01:24 PM
Dre need to come back to the westcoast fuck being healthy smoke some weed drink some tangaray fuck some hoes and get back to a western state of mind.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 07, 2009, 08:07:23 PM
Dre didnt have to make a beat, produce a cd or touch a mic after he dropped 2001 & he would still be concidered the best producer ever & a straight up legend.

Dre doesnt have to prove himself to anyone lol.

he dropped some DOPE beats on Relapse, i expect the same for BISD & i can only imagine for Detox. :o

i love how you guys act like Snoop Dogg still on top of his game, but he was an OG so he can stay; but Em? na, he's washed up, i mean he dropped two classics, two near classics, but his last two albums were below average, so FUCK him Dre; just throw your boy, your protege, your best freind to the side because some guys on Dubcc want you to work with better rappers. ::)

not saying he cant give some more works to the West & other rappers, but to just toss out everything he has done with Aftermath because you guys dont like Eminem is crazy! ???
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: OcToExtraordinaire on May 07, 2009, 08:11:46 PM
It's not that easy. You can't say "Yo 50, you're out now". There's a contract.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on May 07, 2009, 08:16:10 PM
Dre didnt have to make a beat, produce a cd or touch a mic after he dropped 2001 & he would still be concidered the best producer ever & a straight up legend.

Dre doesnt have to prove himself to anyone lol.

he dropped some DOPE beats on Relapse, i expect the same for BISD & i can only imagine for Detox. :o

i love how you guys act like Snoop Dogg still on top of his game, but he was an OG so he can stay; but Em? na, he's washed up, i mean he dropped two classics, two near classics, but his last two albums were below average, so FUCK him Dre; just throw your boy, your protege, your best freind to the side because some guys on Dubcc want you to work with better rappers. ::)

not saying he cant give some more works to the West & other rappers, but to just toss out everything he has done with Aftermath because you guys dont like Eminem is crazy! ???

nobody on here acts like snoop is still on top of his game, but we respect dude tries different things as he moves on. Eminem saying the same shit today he was saying 10 years ago! Nothing different at all! Snoop and dre are also known as the greatest hiphop duo by many and both west is another reason why people want to hear them...sort of like so many want to hear dre with game again...

Dre is a living legend everyone knows.

pz
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: jman91331 on May 07, 2009, 08:20:03 PM
And who is dr. dre going to please by doing that, you? Wow!
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 07, 2009, 08:20:35 PM
Dre didnt have to make a beat, produce a cd or touch a mic after he dropped 2001 & he would still be concidered the best producer ever & a straight up legend.

Dre doesnt have to prove himself to anyone lol.

he dropped some DOPE beats on Relapse, i expect the same for BISD & i can only imagine for Detox. :o

i love how you guys act like Snoop Dogg still on top of his game, but he was an OG so he can stay; but Em? na, he's washed up, i mean he dropped two classics, two near classics, but his last two albums were below average, so FUCK him Dre; just throw your boy, your protege, your best freind to the side because some guys on Dubcc want you to work with better rappers. ::)

not saying he cant give some more works to the West & other rappers, but to just toss out everything he has done with Aftermath because you guys dont like Eminem is crazy! ???

nobody on here acts like snoop is still on top of his game, but we respect dude tries different things as he moves on. Eminem saying the same shit today he was saying 10 years ago! Nothing different at all! Snoop and dre are also known as the greatest hiphop duo by many and both west is another reason why people want to hear them...sort of like so many want to hear dre with game again...

Dre is a living legend everyone knows.

pz

i feel what your saying & i would like to see Snoop/Dre duos, but Dre doesnt have to leave Aftermath, leave Em & 50 to give Snoop beats or even produce his whole album lol.

he doesnt need to "move on" though, thats my whole thing; he can just produce for other rappers, which he does at times, but i guess he could do a little more.

BUT STILL, he "could" do more, but he doesnt have to; like i said he doesnt have to prove himself to anyone. 8)
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Action! on May 07, 2009, 08:21:47 PM
I'm pleased with Doc Dre .  Wish more would be released but not too much or I'd think he was wack.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 07, 2009, 09:05:40 PM

i love how you guys act like Snoop Dogg still on top of his game, but he was an OG so he can stay; but Em? na, he's washed up, i mean he dropped two classics, two near classics, but his last two albums were below average, so FUCK him Dre; just throw your boy, your protege, your best freind to the side because some guys on Dubcc want you to work with better rappers. ::)

not saying he cant give some more works to the West & other rappers, but to just toss out everything he has done with Aftermath because you guys dont like Eminem is crazy! ???

Snoop was Dre's protege, he threw him to the side, why not Eminem? I'm not saying stop working with Em, but he doesn't need to be spending so much time on Relapse and BISD and delaying his own album which is 10x more anticipated. Why can't he do the same thing with Em and 50 that he does with snoop, throw them a few beats for their albums and get on with finding new west coast coast talent and getting his own shit out.

I like Em, or at least I liked his first two albums. I liked 50's first album. But at this point in their careers they don't need Dre and frankly its a waste of his talent.

And for the record, Snoop hasn't been as dope on his own, that's why we want him working with Dre more. The Dre-produced cuts are always the best tracks on his albums. In the past few years, Em and 50 haven't been dope regardless of whether its a Dre beat or not. Snoop has that west coast style that just goes naturally with Dre beats. 50 and Em are east coast rappers, maybe they need to go work with Premo to get their careers back on track.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: OG Snoopaveli on May 07, 2009, 09:07:55 PM
Dre can't turn back to the west !! he lost it !!!
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 07, 2009, 09:24:10 PM
why everytime somebody drops somethin new there's always people bitchin about it?  and wats with people tellin people wat 2 do bcuz they think that/those individual(s) fucked up?  just leave all tha bullshit 2 tha side and pop a pill or drink or smoke 2 Relapse and it's a done deal
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 07, 2009, 09:27:24 PM
Dre didnt have to make a beat, produce a cd or touch a mic after he dropped 2001 & he would still be concidered the best producer.

Not really, I think Premo's got him beat there.

Dre will be a legend regardless of whether he ever makes another beat, but I have a feeling he wants to stay in the game and not fade away like he did for a few years after he left Death Row. And to do that he needs to reinvent himself, which means putting out some new artists, and also keeping his name in the game by (1) producing hot ass singles for people and (2) putting out Detox. He hasn't really done jack for any artists except 50 in the past few years (and 50 isn't nearly as hot as he used to be), so its definitely time for step 2. All the 16, 17, 18 year old's don't know who the fuck Dre is, just like all the 20-25 year old's didn't know who the fuck Dre was when he dropped 2001. But by delaying Detox for so long he's setting the bar higher and higher and setting himself up for failure and pissing off fans who are getting tired of waiting for it. The longer he waits the less people will buy it and the less successful it will be. I understand he wants to perfect it, but no fucking album should take 10 years to make. It should be damn close to perfect by now, there's a point where you draw the line.

Oh and I have a feeling Em's annoying accent will prevent any of his songs from jumping to the top of the charts and putting a Dre beat back in the spotlight. I could be wrong though, after all fans seem to like weezy's annoying ass voice.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 07, 2009, 09:33:59 PM
why everytime somebody drops somethin new there's always people bitchin about it?  and wats with people tellin people wat 2 do bcuz they think that/those individual(s) fucked up?  just leave all tha bullshit 2 tha side and pop a pill or drink or smoke 2 Relapse and it's a done deal

So according to your logic we should accept whatever music comes out, no matter how bad it is? That's stupid, then who the hell determines whats dope and whats whack? Now its one thing to be a hater and hate on anything a rapper puts out. Its another thing to be a fan. A real fan will honestly criticize whatever comes out. If its dope we say its dope. If its not, then we say its not. When a rapper like Em or Nas comes out with subpar material, we as real fans have to let them know that because maybe they don't realize it's whack or they think they can get away with not putting as much work into it. You're not a real fan if you're not open to criticism.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: D-Nice on May 07, 2009, 09:39:31 PM
I agree that Dre is taking tooooo long with Detox. As far as who he should or should not work with that is on him. Would I like to hear him work with Cube or Crooked or a new artist? Sure, do I lose sleep over it or complain about it? Nah. Do I still enjoy his music? HELL YEAH. He can earned that to do whatever he wants whether we like it or not. If ya don't like it, don't support it.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: christar on May 07, 2009, 09:56:24 PM
he need to put westcoast cats on the album. like glasses malone.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhWQKJ08SVSX74N132 (http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhWQKJ08SVSX74N132)
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: NewYork Pope on May 07, 2009, 10:23:09 PM
Maybe if YOU don't feel Dre YOU need to move on? Don'y buy his album. there are people who will isten.

Yeah, YOU can just move on instead.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Lucifuge on May 07, 2009, 10:30:21 PM
Dre didnt have to make a beat, produce a cd or touch a mic after he dropped 2001 & he would still be concidered the best producer ever & a straight up legend.

Dre doesnt have to prove himself to anyone lol.

he dropped some DOPE beats on Relapse, i expect the same for BISD & i can only imagine for Detox. :o

i love how you guys act like Snoop Dogg still on top of his game, but he was an OG so he can stay; but Em? na, he's washed up, i mean he dropped two classics, two near classics, but his last two albums were below average, so FUCK him Dre; just throw your boy, your protege, your best freind to the side because some guys on Dubcc want you to work with better rappers. ::)

not saying he cant give some more works to the West & other rappers, but to just toss out everything he has done with Aftermath because you guys dont like Eminem is crazy! ???

nobody on here acts like snoop is still on top of his game, but we respect dude tries different things as he moves on. Eminem saying the same shit today he was saying 10 years ago! Nothing different at all! Snoop and dre are also known as the greatest hiphop duo by many and both west is another reason why people want to hear them...sort of like so many want to hear dre with game again...

Dre is a living legend everyone knows.

pz


but west coast sats saying same shit  for 35 years whats yo point??
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: COBNinja on May 07, 2009, 10:31:47 PM
Dre turned his back on the West long ago, He only fucks with selling artists (Aka Eminem)
As much as i would love to see Crooked I and Dre making music, i dont think it will happen
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: The King on May 07, 2009, 10:37:36 PM
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G-Unit never took off.

Call me a groupie, but Banks, Buck and Yayo combined with the 2 G-Unit albums + Soundtrack sold nearly 10 million albums. If G-Unit never took off, then who did? Plus he hardly worked on any of those projects.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 07, 2009, 10:52:04 PM
why everytime somebody drops somethin new there's always people bitchin about it?  and wats with people tellin people wat 2 do bcuz they think that/those individual(s) fucked up?  just leave all tha bullshit 2 tha side and pop a pill or drink or smoke 2 Relapse and it's a done deal

So according to your logic we should accept whatever music comes out, no matter how bad it is? That's stupid, then who the hell determines whats dope and whats whack? Now its one thing to be a hater and hate on anything a rapper puts out. Its another thing to be a fan. A real fan will honestly criticize whatever comes out. If its dope we say its dope. If its not, then we say its not. When a rapper like Em or Nas comes out with subpar material, we as real fans have to let them know that because maybe they don't realize it's whack or they think they can get away with not putting as much work into it. You're not a real fan if you're not open to criticism.


Why did u take that shit to tha heart?  Say what tha fuck you wanna say but dont bitch and nit pik about everything you dont like... shit, do it better.  Ain't nobody say suck dick and be cool.  It doesn't always look like critisizm on tha other side, sometimes people are haters unintentionally, and after listening to Relapse and reading shit on here with the "Average" and "poor" reviews it's really alot of nothing being said.  Em just got older and couldn't help his voice changing (i wish he would sound more serious in his voice too just like the rest of us do), 50 hasn't fell off- i still cant c wat y'all c but whatever, and Dre is slow (we all know that).  Give that shit some play and call it a day.  But plz dont try 2 come back n forth with the bullshit, you have your opinion- i have mine... but Relapse isn't a shitty album and it shits on "Encore"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOFKjSvHYtM

and it seems like "subpar" is everybody's favorite word when new shit drops, it's hysterical lol.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Dre-Day on May 08, 2009, 02:56:02 AM
Dre didnt have to make a beat, produce a cd or touch a mic after he dropped 2001 & he would still be concidered the best producer ever & a straight up legend.

Dre doesnt have to prove himself to anyone lol.

he dropped some DOPE beats on Relapse, i expect the same for BISD & i can only imagine for Detox. :o

i love how you guys act like Snoop Dogg still on top of his game, but he was an OG so he can stay; but Em? na, he's washed up, i mean he dropped two classics, two near classics, but his last two albums were below average, so FUCK him Dre; just throw your boy, your protege, your best freind to the side because some guys on Dubcc want you to work with better rappers. ::)

not saying he cant give some more works to the West & other rappers, but to just toss out everything he has done with Aftermath because you guys dont like Eminem is crazy! ???

nobody on here acts like snoop is still on top of his game, but we respect dude tries different things as he moves on. Eminem saying the same shit today he was saying 10 years ago! Nothing different at all! Snoop and dre are also known as the greatest hiphop duo by many and both west is another reason why people want to hear them...sort of like so many want to hear dre with game again...

Dre is a living legend everyone knows.

pz

i feel what your saying & i would like to see Snoop/Dre duos, but Dre doesnt have to leave Aftermath, leave Em & 50 to give Snoop beats or even produce his whole album lol.

he doesnt need to "move on" though, thats my whole thing; he can just produce for other rappers, which he does at times, but i guess he could do a little more.

BUT STILL, he "could" do more, but he doesnt have to; like i said he doesnt have to prove himself to anyone. 8)

oh yeah he does, aftermath killa!  :firedevil:
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Meho on May 08, 2009, 03:41:23 AM
I would agree to a certain extent. He wasted 8 beats on Encore and now like 16 on Em. It's different with 50, he get's 2,3 beats per project, it's not like Dre produces the whole album.

But fuck moving on to some artists just because they're from the Westcoast, that's such a shitty reason. I would love to see a whole Nas cd produced by Dre and of course Snoop & Dre are always a hit.

EDIT: Don't forget that out of all Dre beats for 50, 50 only ruined Fire and I Get It In. That's a good statistic imo.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: ~Lucien~ on May 08, 2009, 04:13:49 AM
Dre need to come back to the westcoast fuck being healthy smoke some weed drink some tangaray fuck some hoes and get back to a western state of mind.

 ;)
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Post by: Mista Rosa on May 08, 2009, 04:44:24 AM
dre should produce a nate dogg album and do it right
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Post by: stillinrehab on May 08, 2009, 04:53:06 AM
WOW! I dont see how Dre makes consistantly good, if not great, beats on this album which I think Em fucked up on and its his fault Em fucked it not just Em himself! I dont have a problem with the production and alot of people have said that the production was some of the best they had heard! Why not say that Dre did his job but Em didnt? It could be time for Dre to get another artist in... but under Aftermath it isnt just Dres decision! Im not riding but i think Dre still has it PEACE! 8)
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Action! on May 08, 2009, 05:16:42 AM
Fuck a coast that's how I ride.  I could give a fuck if Dre ever worked with a west coast MC again.  Just be a dope MC that's all I care about.

Glad he's worked with Bishop Lamont.  Hopefully, I'll see the end result.
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Post by: Jynxx on May 08, 2009, 05:25:53 AM
I'm Sorry Ya'll But Premo>>>>Dr.Dre In Many Ways!
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Mietek23 on May 08, 2009, 05:29:02 AM
Not only Dre needs to move on - ALL Y'ALL NEEDS TO MOVE ON FROM THAT DETOX BULLSHIT!
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Lucifuge on May 08, 2009, 05:41:30 AM
I'm Sorry Ya'll But Premo>>>>Dr.Dre In Many Ways!

hahah premo sound the sam like 25 years,same snare,same kick,same hats,samo bass sound,same sample cut..lol 4 that
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: J.E. on May 08, 2009, 05:44:30 AM
Not only Dre needs to move on - ALL Y'ALL NEEDS TO MOVE ON FROM THAT DETOX BULLSHIT!

Why you're so mad/ care what other people think?
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Post by: T-Dogg on May 08, 2009, 06:54:05 AM
I actually don't care who Dre works with as long as it comes out dope - but they should've dropped that Bishop Lamont album already.
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Post by: RingMan on May 08, 2009, 07:14:18 AM
I'm Sorry Ya'll But Premo>>>>Dr.Dre In Many Ways!

hahah premo sound the sam like 25 years,same snare,same kick,same hats,samo bass sound,same sample cut..lol 4 that
but he is doing it more than well for 25 years
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: MediumL on May 08, 2009, 08:22:48 AM
I'm Sorry Ya'll But Premo>>>>Dr.Dre In Many Ways!

hahah premo sound the sam like 25 years,same snare,same kick,same hats,samo bass sound,same sample cut..lol 4 that
but he is doing it more than well for 25 years

premo has boring/wack beats just like dre. i respect dre for risking it and trying a new sound than sticking to same ole formula.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: JohnnyL on May 08, 2009, 09:08:48 AM
Dre didnt have to make a beat, produce a cd or touch a mic after he dropped 2001 & he would still be concidered the best producer ever & a straight up legend.

Dre doesnt have to prove himself to anyone lol.

he dropped some DOPE beats on Relapse, i expect the same for BISD & i can only imagine for Detox. :o

i love how you guys act like Snoop Dogg still on top of his game, but he was an OG so he can stay; but Em? na, he's washed up, i mean he dropped two classics, two near classics, but his last two albums were below average, so FUCK him Dre; just throw your boy, your protege, your best freind to the side because some guys on Dubcc want you to work with better rappers. ::)

not saying he cant give some more works to the West & other rappers, but to just toss out everything he has done with Aftermath because you guys dont like Eminem is crazy! ???

 Agree with you 100%  It's kind of silly to say Dre should move on but in the same breath say, but he should still fuck with Cube and Snoop.  I respect that Snoop is experimenting with new sounds, but has he really turned out anything earth-shattering since "Doggystyle," ?  And also, I don't know how some can say that Eminem isn't doing anything new.  I have a completely different take on that as well.  To me, everything Eminem has done from "Marshal Mathers LP" on, has sounded different.  I can't say I like everything he's done recently, but I'll have to admit that he's trying new things.  Sure, his subject matter has stayed similar.  But I'm really not sure what else he should be rapping about.  He's not exactly a gangster, so I think it's be kind of silly if he started making G rap.  And rapping about a normal life in white suburbia would probably put people to sleep.  Now, I'll give you this. I could stand to hear a few less songs going at celebrities, but overall, I think his subject matter is probably what works most.  If there's anything he might want to re-think, it's over-using those strange voices on his tracks.
 As far as Dre working with new acts, I'm 100% for it.  I actually think that's a great idea.  I'd love to hear Crooked I over a Dre beat.  I'd love to hear Tech N9ne over a Dre beat.  But is this thread really about Dre moving on?  Or is it more about not wanting Dre to work with certain rappers that you personally dislike?  I'm not trying to start a fight, because I know a lot of people on here dislike Eminem's music.  But c'mon now.  Isn't it better to have Dre's production on as much music  as possible.  If you think Eminem's new album is bad, think how much you would have disliked it if it had no Dr. Dre production.
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Post by: LyRiCaL_G on May 08, 2009, 09:10:51 AM
Dre didnt have to make a beat, produce a cd or touch a mic after he dropped 2001 & he would still be concidered the best producer ever & a straight up legend.

Dre doesnt have to prove himself to anyone lol.

he dropped some DOPE beats on Relapse, i expect the same for BISD & i can only imagine for Detox. :o

i love how you guys act like Snoop Dogg still on top of his game, but he was an OG so he can stay; but Em? na, he's washed up, i mean he dropped two classics, two near classics, but his last two albums were below average, so FUCK him Dre; just throw your boy, your protege, your best freind to the side because some guys on Dubcc want you to work with better rappers. ::)

not saying he cant give some more works to the West & other rappers, but to just toss out everything he has done with Aftermath because you guys dont like Eminem is crazy! ???

nobody on here acts like snoop is still on top of his game, but we respect dude tries different things as he moves on. Eminem saying the same shit today he was saying 10 years ago! Nothing different at all! Snoop and dre are also known as the greatest hiphop duo by many and both west is another reason why people want to hear them...sort of like so many want to hear dre with game again...

Dre is a living legend everyone knows.

pz


but west coast sats saying same shit  for 35 years whats yo point??

The fuck u talking about?
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on May 08, 2009, 09:15:28 AM
Also on a side note, in tone with the topic, dre will not move past eminem because eminem can spit garbage and all the white kids will still buy his record. I guarentee with the huge promotion and shit for relapse, dude aint selling nothing less than 700k first week which is great.

I think an eminem album failing would be great for aftermath, it'd mean they would have to refresh shit up and i dont mind dre working with eminem at all myself, i just think they need to try being abit more creative. Not the same tired interscope formula.

Id also love for him to work with westcoast cats like snoop cube and game but i dont mind at all about dre being on aftermath. He can do what he wants at the end of the day, but people naturally will always have hopes of who he works with.

pz
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: JohnnyL on May 08, 2009, 09:21:33 AM
Also on a side note, in tone with the topic, dre will not move past eminem because eminem can spit garbage and all the white kids will still buy his record. I guarentee with the huge promotion and shit for relapse, dude aint selling nothing less than 700k first week which is great.

I think an eminem album failing would be great for aftermath, it'd mean they would have to refresh shit up and i dont mind dre working with eminem at all myself, i just think they need to try being abit more creative. Not the same tired interscope formula.

Id also love for him to work with westcoast cats like snoop cube and game but i dont mind at all about dre being on aftermath. He can do what he wants at the end of the day, but people naturally will always have hopes of who he works with.

pz

In a way, I do agree with some of what you're saying here.  Because it does seem that Eminem gets preferential treatment from Dre (because like you say, Eminem is almost a guaranteed seller regardless of content).  To me, the biggest failing at Aftermath Records is that too many of their artists get dropped from the label before they're even given a chance.  If there's any bad habbits that need to be broken, that's it.  The label should be about more than just Dre Em and 50.
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Post by: Prof@ssor on May 08, 2009, 11:53:36 AM
I'm Sorry Ya'll But Premo>>>>Dr.Dre In Many Ways!

hahah premo sound the sam like 25 years,same snare,same kick,same hats,samo bass sound,same sample cut..lol 4 that
but he is doing it more than well for 25 years

he is not bringing any revolution. there. that is the fucking difference.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 08, 2009, 01:43:53 PM
why everytime somebody drops somethin new there's always people bitchin about it?  and wats with people tellin people wat 2 do bcuz they think that/those individual(s) fucked up?  just leave all tha bullshit 2 tha side and pop a pill or drink or smoke 2 Relapse and it's a done deal

So according to your logic we should accept whatever music comes out, no matter how bad it is? That's stupid, then who the hell determines whats dope and whats whack? Now its one thing to be a hater and hate on anything a rapper puts out. Its another thing to be a fan. A real fan will honestly criticize whatever comes out. If its dope we say its dope. If its not, then we say its not. When a rapper like Em or Nas comes out with subpar material, we as real fans have to let them know that because maybe they don't realize it's whack or they think they can get away with not putting as much work into it. You're not a real fan if you're not open to criticism.


Why did u take that shit to tha heart?  Say what tha fuck you wanna say but dont bitch and nit pik about everything you dont like... shit, do it better.  Ain't nobody say suck dick and be cool.  It doesn't always look like critisizm on tha other side, sometimes people are haters unintentionally, and after listening to Relapse and reading shit on here with the "Average" and "poor" reviews it's really alot of nothing being said.  Em just got older and couldn't help his voice changing (i wish he would sound more serious in his voice too just like the rest of us do), 50 hasn't fell off- i still cant c wat y'all c but whatever, and Dre is slow (we all know that).  Give that shit some play and call it a day.  But plz dont try 2 come back n forth with the bullshit, you have your opinion- i have mine... but Relapse isn't a shitty album and it shits on "Encore"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOFKjSvHYtM

and it seems like "subpar" is everybody's favorite word when new shit drops, it's hysterical lol.
I haven't listened to the entirety of Relapse. But the songs that have leaked, are you honestly suggesting they are the same quality as his earlier work? If yes, then well no comment there's no point in arguing with you and I'm not going to convince you of anything. If no, then yes subpar is the correct word to use.

And you're really dense if you think that's his real voice. It doesn't have a single thing to do with him getting older. Em is the caliber of emcee that can switch up his flow in different songs, and this time around for whatever reason he's picked a shitty flow. Its not his real voice, so yes he has fucked up. If Em were an average rapper, I wouldn't be criticizing him as much. But the fact that he has two near classic albums and a great rhyming ability means you have to have a different set of standards when reviewing what he puts out. If I wanted average material I would be checking for an average rapper. 

50 hasn't fallen off? Well, compared to his competition, no, but by his own standards he is about as low as he can get. Every album he drops is a less exciting version of his previous one.

btw I'm the wrong one to start one of your little forum feuds with. I may be new to this particular board, but I'm the fucking Osiris of debate and I will eat you under the table.


Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 08, 2009, 01:53:57 PM
I would agree to a certain extent. He wasted 8 beats on Encore and now like 16 on Em. It's different with 50, he get's 2,3 beats per project, it's not like Dre produces the whole album.

But fuck moving on to some artists just because they're from the Westcoast, that's such a shitty reason. I would love to see a whole Nas cd produced by Dre and of course Snoop & Dre are always a hit.

EDIT: Don't forget that out of all Dre beats for 50, 50 only ruined Fire and I Get It In. That's a good statistic imo.

This is basically what I'm saying. Move on to working with different rappers. I think a Dre-produced Nas album would be the shit.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Matty on May 08, 2009, 01:56:12 PM
hell yeah, but i'd rather hear nas working heavily with premo again than dre...
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Mietek23 on May 09, 2009, 02:27:01 AM
Not only Dre needs to move on - ALL Y'ALL NEEDS TO MOVE ON FROM THAT DETOX BULLSHIT!

Why you're so mad/ care what other people think?

Because all this "Detox-threads" just makes me fuckin' SICK - that's why. It's like chasing a dreams that will never happen..
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Mista Rosa on May 09, 2009, 08:53:11 AM
dre should produce a nate dogg album and do it right

absolutely!
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Action! on May 09, 2009, 10:23:58 AM
I'm not that much of a fan of Nas and Dre.  I'd prefer Nas and Premo.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on May 09, 2009, 07:47:49 PM
Dre gave more beats to EM on this album then he has to Snoop in the last 10 years
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 09, 2009, 07:53:58 PM
i've always noticed by the 5th or 6th post nobody ever knows wat they were talking about in the 1st place.  It's like it goes from 1 thing to tha next and everybody just gets dumbed down.  Dr. Dre=1oGOAT, he never releases anything shitty.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Sir Petey on May 10, 2009, 12:23:53 AM
i've always noticed by the 5th or 6th post nobody ever knows wat they were talking about in the 1st place.  It's like it goes from 1 thing to tha next and everybody just gets dumbed down.  Dr. Dre=1oGOAT, he never releases anything shitty.


after reviewing the evidence the jury concludes you are in fact a groupie and have high estrogen levels...detox will drop around the time your just getting out of menopause and it will dissapoint just like your sweet 16 party where you didnt get the pony you asked for.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Dre-Day on May 10, 2009, 12:27:14 AM
i've always noticed by the 5th or 6th post nobody ever knows wat they were talking about in the 1st place.  It's like it goes from 1 thing to tha next and everybody just gets dumbed down.  Dr. Dre=1oGOAT, he never releases anything shitty.


after reviewing the evidence the jury concludes you are in fact a groupie and have high estrogen levels...detox will drop around the time your just getting out of menopause and it will dissapoint just like your sweet 16 party where you didnt get the pony you asked for.

LOL, props  :D
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: eNgIeS on May 10, 2009, 06:34:56 AM
Dre turned his back on the West long ago, He only fucks with selling artists (Aka Eminem)
As much as i would love to see Crooked I and Dre making music, i dont think it will happen
Crooked I had the chance to but someone in his camp fucked it up by leaking Say Dr Dre
ruined it all
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 10, 2009, 09:55:47 AM
i've always noticed by the 5th or 6th post nobody ever knows wat they were talking about in the 1st place.  It's like it goes from 1 thing to tha next and everybody just gets dumbed down.  Dr. Dre=1oGOAT, he never releases anything shitty.


after reviewing the evidence the jury concludes you are in fact a groupie and have high estrogen levels...detox will drop around the time your just getting out of menopause and it will dissapoint just like your sweet 16 party where you didnt get the pony you asked for.

LOL, props  :D


ok   :nahnah: :loopaper:  now do your job
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Dre-Day on May 10, 2009, 01:02:54 PM
i've always noticed by the 5th or 6th post nobody ever knows wat they were talking about in the 1st place.  It's like it goes from 1 thing to tha next and everybody just gets dumbed down.  Dr. Dre=1oGOAT, he never releases anything shitty.


after reviewing the evidence the jury concludes you are in fact a groupie and have high estrogen levels...detox will drop around the time your just getting out of menopause and it will dissapoint just like your sweet 16 party where you didnt get the pony you asked for.

LOL, props  :D


ok   :nahnah: :loopaper:  now do your job
lol at emotube again :D
Title: Re: Dr. Dre needs to MOVE ON
Post by: Sir Petey on May 14, 2009, 07:26:06 PM
more like she-mo tube