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Title: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on May 09, 2009, 07:39:49 AM
To me this is the problem with Eminem's new album.  Dre hooked him up with a sound that is comparable to the Eminem Show.  Yet this album falls well short of the Eminem show because of Eminem's lack of content.  "Bagpipes From Baghdad" is the perfect example.  Because the sound reminds me of "Square Dance", where in the second verse of "Square Dance" he talks about Iraq and America's War in the Middle East.   If Em could of came with something like that for "Bagpipes From Baghdad" it would have been perfect.  But instead he came with rhymes about Nick Cannon and Mariah Carey that had nothing to do with the beat and chorus.
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on May 09, 2009, 07:56:01 AM
i agree, this song has everything, its a banger, eminem flow is great but wtf, talking about nick cannon and mariah and bagpipes from baghdad..LOL
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: Action! on May 09, 2009, 09:59:17 AM
The verses support the chorus.
Chorus basically says Shady is a lunatic that'll say random shit for attention.
Verses demonstrate that through examples.

Additionally, the track serves as an example of Shady's general problem with having a stable relationship with women.  His frustrations take the form of hatred because he can't solve the problem facing him.  Think about it's placement between Lunatic and Hello.
 

Questions I have do you think this this is supposed to be funny as in silly?

I don't.  When I hear it, I pick up on some minor comedic elements but I think it's a mistake to assume this is supposed to be silly.
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: white Boy on May 09, 2009, 10:31:28 AM
yep, beat is doooope
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 09, 2009, 12:33:12 PM
beats sick, but yeah; when i saw the title i was like alright this is going to be his "Square Dance" or "Mosh" of this album, but no lol.
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: Hittman2001 on May 09, 2009, 03:45:33 PM
fuck nick cannon
 (http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Chapelle-Show-03.jpg)
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on May 09, 2009, 04:20:17 PM
fuck nick cannon
 (http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Chapelle-Show-03.jpg)

i dont think that was the skit, but i remember he was yelling at his son & said that; i was DYING! :laugh:

i miss Dave. :-\
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: Shallow on May 09, 2009, 04:36:25 PM
Most rappers, and music artists in general, are too stupid to tackle a political subject like the Middle East and Iraq. So Eminem is way too stupid to do it. I'd rather read a book about Hip Hop by Jimmy Carter.
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: thisoneguy360 on May 09, 2009, 05:08:25 PM
This beat is a BANGER. Dre came correct on this album.
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 09, 2009, 05:09:36 PM
Most rappers, and music artists in general, are too stupid to tackle a political subject like the Middle East and Iraq. So Eminem is was too stupid to do it. I'd rather read a book about Hip Hop by Jimmy Carter.
that would be an interesting read.
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: Job starring as King Of Zamunda on May 09, 2009, 08:30:18 PM
eminem still rapping?  he goes up there with with some of the fakest rappers. eminem is far from crazy vato loco
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 09, 2009, 08:33:02 PM
eminem still rapping?  he goes up there with with some of the fakest rappers. eminem is far from crazy vato loco
He was real crazy until he got caught up with those assault charges. Then he was a defenseless well-mannered man with his glasses on n shit lol.
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: Job starring as King Of Zamunda on May 09, 2009, 08:51:41 PM
eminem still rapping?  he goes up there with with some of the fakest rappers. eminem is far from crazy vato loco
He was real crazy until he got caught up with those assault charges. Then he was a defenseless well-mannered man with his glasses on n shit lol.
lol eye remember hearing some shit back in the day. he was threatening some nigga with a gun over Kim and the gun wasnte even loaded. eye guess at least these white boys have someone they can relate to physically
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Can
Post by: ThisIsTheWestCoast.com on May 09, 2009, 09:16:21 PM
i agree, this song has everything, its a banger, eminem flow is great but wtf, talking about nick cannon and mariah and bagpipes from baghdad..LOL

exactly.  it also shows that dre's falling off also.  cause how did dre not make em re-do the track and so on.  the tracks is a banger but the content of the track makes no sense what so ever.  i wish em would go back to the pills and put good music out
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: Action! on May 09, 2009, 09:18:10 PM
For the most part if ya in the industry that means ya not in the streets.  Ya in the booth which means if ya yapping ya mouth about some shit it either happened before ya took up the music or ya saying this is a scenario that I know has happened or ya just telling a story.
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Can
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 09, 2009, 09:57:21 PM
i agree, this song has everything, its a banger, eminem flow is great but wtf, talking about nick cannon and mariah and bagpipes from baghdad..LOL

exactly.  it also shows that dre's falling off also.  cause how did dre not make em re-do the track and so on.  the tracks is a banger but the content of the track makes no sense what so ever.  i wish em would go back to the pills and put good music out
At this point in the game, I don't think Dre can really tell Em what to or what not to rap about. His past record sales are proof.
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: eNgIeS on May 09, 2009, 09:58:52 PM
The verses support the chorus.
Chorus basically says Shady is a lunatic that'll say random shit for attention.
Verses demonstrate that through examples.

Additionally, the track serves as an example of Shady's general problem with having a stable relationship with women.  His frustrations take the form of hatred because he can't solve the problem facing him.  Think about it's placement between Lunatic and Hello.


exactly. People aren't using there brain & realizing the shit Eminem's spitting & the msg his trying to get accross. Not so much the words he says
Title: Bigpipes from Bagdad question.
Post by: Blasphemy on May 09, 2009, 10:24:57 PM
Anyone else think the west coast Sythns would be as good in its place???Just imagine it for a second 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: JRiv on May 09, 2009, 10:26:18 PM
CAN ANYONE HOOK UP THE TRACK? I HAVEN'T HEARD IT ;D
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: Blasphemy on May 09, 2009, 10:28:20 PM
fuck nick cannon
 (http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Chapelle-Show-03.jpg)

i dont think that was the skit, but i remember he was yelling at his son & said that; i was DYING! :laugh:

i miss Dave. :-\

It was teh one where he was getting a call and his son was talking about nick how he was better lol so he says "FUCK NICK CANNON, LIKE I GIVE A FUCK" Lol Oh man, Fuck Comedy Central for ruining dave's conditions to get him back, but god damn I love how they gave him so much freedom. Ask a black Dude was the best thing I ever saw lol
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on May 10, 2009, 05:30:15 AM
The verses support the chorus.
Chorus basically says Shady is a lunatic that'll say random shit for attention.
Verses demonstrate that through examples.

Additionally, the track serves as an example of Shady's general problem with having a stable relationship with women.  His frustrations take the form of hatred because he can't solve the problem facing him.  Think about it's placement between Lunatic and Hello.
 

Questions I have do you think this this is supposed to be funny as in silly?

I don't.  When I hear it, I pick up on some minor comedic elements but I think it's a mistake to assume this is supposed to be silly.

Well I understand what you saying.  You seem to have a good understanding of Eminem's music. 

But "Square Dance" for example was a comedy song as well.  I wasn't asking Eminem to write a song like Immortal Technique would write a song.  I was just wishing he would of done something like "Square Dance" where he threw in nearly a whole verse about Iraq and Bush's War On Terror.  "Square Dance" is one of the best songs Eminem ever did.  It's comedy, yet it was political, and Eminem didn't try to overstep his boundaries of knowledge either; he stayed in his lane and did what he does best.   

"Mosh" on the other hand is an example of Eminem digging to far into politics, in a style that doesn't really suit himl.  But sometimes Eminem can come political on a track and it works out great, such as on tracks like "Square Dance", "White America" and "We As Americuns". 
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: Action! on May 10, 2009, 10:36:13 AM
When I saw the title I thought it was going to be his views about the Iraq and the US intervention in the vein of Mosh but not as slow paced.  At least, that's easily interpreted from the title. Bagpipes are popularly know for being used by the Scotts, usually in relation to funerals.   But, after hearing the tracks Em's just using it as an example of non-normal, crazy, lunacy -whatever the hell you want to call it.  Bagpipes aren't popular in Baghdad.  When one thinks of either the opposing image isn't conjured.
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 10, 2009, 10:58:33 AM
yeah a waste of great work but damn this is bangin, FUCKIN BANGER
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: Jaydc555 on May 10, 2009, 12:07:30 PM
Bangers and mash up in that ass....bitch
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: WestCoastPrince 24 on June 02, 2009, 02:43:07 PM
in iraq when someone dies they play the bagpipes!!! thats why he called it bagpipes from baghdad cause he murdered mariah a nickky, dumbasses!  >:(
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: Jome on June 02, 2009, 02:52:42 PM
I thought he used Nick Cannon as an metaphor for the situation in Iraq..  :D
But anyways, it's about time someone finally made a song about Nick Cannon, I'm sure he's happy about being upgraded from D-celeb to C-celeb.

Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: Moe on June 02, 2009, 05:46:23 PM
I thought he used Nick Cannon as an metaphor for the situation in Iraq..  :D
But anyways, it's about time someone finally made a song about Nick Cannon, I'm sure he's happy about being upgraded from D-celeb to C-celeb.


im sure he doesnt care.
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: Elano on June 02, 2009, 10:52:44 PM
I thought he used Nick Cannon as an metaphor for the situation in Iraq..  :D
But anyways, it's about time someone finally made a song about Nick Cannon, I'm sure he's happy about being upgraded from D-celeb to C-celeb.


im sure he doesnt care.
you are sure ?
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: OchoCinco on June 02, 2009, 10:56:04 PM
hey is same old song and dance about him fantasizing about kidnapping Britney Spears and Lindsy Lohan then killing them?. I was listening to that song when i was on my way home tonight n was like wtf is this shit.
Title: Re: Shouldn't Relapse "Bagpipes From Baghdad" been about Iraq, and not Nick Cannon?
Post by: westside159 on June 03, 2009, 01:37:50 AM
Relapse is definately one of his best albums he put out , from top to bottom its dope !!!  Relapse = Da Bomb shit 8) 8)