West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Drudge on May 18, 2009, 11:04:36 AM
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http://www.allhiphop.com/stories/rumors/archive/2009/05/15/21564288.aspx
Solar calls it "Pseudo hip hop" Illseed says he disagrees with Guru and Solar on it.
Solar says you never see new rock and rollers never disrespects the veterans of rock and roll.
Case in point.. Rick Ross came in disrespecting Trick D, 50 cent disrespected alot of rappers I'm not sure if veterans should be used in this point.
http://www.allhiphop.com/stories/rumors/archive/2009/05/15/21564288.aspx
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Guru Gang Starr should go listen to Scarface, Geto Boyz, Outkast, 8Ball & MJG, UGK, Mr. 3-2, Z-Ro, K-Rino, Killer Mike and countless others before he makes statements.
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to quote Premo from dopewhiterappers' sig "7 grand really fucked your head up huh"
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Guru Gang Starr should go listen to Scarface, Geto Boyz, Outkast, 8Ball & MJG, UGK, Mr. 3-2, Z-Ro, K-Rino, Killer Mike and countless others before he makes statements.
you know that the artists you listed weren´t ment to be dissed..im sure they mean ppl like: jeezy, lil jon, solja boy,d4l,etc.
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Guru Gang Starr should go listen to Scarface, Geto Boyz, Outkast, 8Ball & MJG, UGK, Mr. 3-2, Z-Ro, K-Rino, Killer Mike and countless others before he makes statements.
you know that the artists you listed weren´t ment to be dissed..im sure they mean ppl like: jeezy, lil jon, solja boy,d4l,etc.
regardless, he's at fault for saying "southern" hip-hop. And Jeezy doesn't deserve to be categorized with the people u just named; esp. D4L/Soulja Boy.
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guru isn't even relevant anymore, that's why he's talking shit to stir up publicity. quit worrying about the next man and get yours. guru hasn't been shit since the last gangstarr album
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guru isn't even relevant anymore, that's why he's talking shit to stir up publicity. quit worrying about the next man and get yours. guru hasn't been shit since the last gangstarr album
preach
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Guru Gang Starr should go listen to Scarface, Geto Boyz, Outkast, 8Ball & MJG, UGK, Mr. 3-2, Z-Ro, K-Rino, Killer Mike and countless others before he makes statements.
you know that the artists you listed weren´t ment to be dissed..im sure they mean ppl like: jeezy, lil jon, solja boy,d4l,etc.
Lil Jon shouldnt be there either, considering he gave us this gem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJTPol2YZY4
And countless others
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^Yea I was gonna say Jon don't belong there either.
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i told y'all Gangstarr was outdated. they died out right before the end of Throwback Jerseys
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i told y'all Gangstarr was outdated. they died out right before the end of Throwback Jerseys
Gang Starr no. Guru, yes. Guru cannot hold down an album without Premier. Gang Starr still gets regular play by me now.
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i told y'all Gangstarr was outdated. they died out right before the end of Throwback Jerseys
LMAO!
There ain't no respect nowhere, no ways, no more.....so..
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i told y'all Gangstarr was outdated. they died out right before the end of Throwback Jerseys
Gang Starr no. Guru, yes. Guru cannot hold down an album without Premier. Gang Starr still gets regular play by me now.
word.
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Guru Gang Starr should go listen to Scarface
he's on the "Moment of Truth" album
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Guru Gang Starr should go listen to Scarface
he's on the "Moment of Truth" album
lmao. i forgot about that betrayl track! face was dope on that
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i told y'all Gangstarr was outdated. they died out right before the end of Throwback Jerseys
LMAO!
There ain't no respect nowhere, no ways, no more.....so..
no hate, but u can't deny the majority of the hate comes from the east..
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Wow I expected a little bit more maturity from Guru on that. That is the problem with blanket statements like that. Now if Illseed would have put him on the spot and said well what about Scarface then he would have got a completely different response. But Face is a Southern artist. That is like saying if Mims sold 3 million albums off of This Is Why I'm Hot, Rick Ross saying he hate East Coast rap.
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he's 100% correct
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he's 100% correct
Explain how.
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i told y'all Gangstarr was outdated. they died out right before the end of Throwback Jerseys
Gang Starr no. Guru, yes. Guru cannot hold down an album without Premier. Gang Starr still gets regular play by me now.
Guru can hold his own if Easy Mo Bee produced the beat haha
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he's 100% correct
Explain how.
hip hop and southern rap are different species
hip hop is soulful, based on a culture...you have to have skillful rhymes or you get chased off stage (happens to the best of them) and when Guru was coming up you couldn't spit shit like "Dufflebag Boy" or you'd get kicked out the cypher
southern rap for the most part is mindless dribble lyrically with lots of bass/base to drown out the vocals when bumping it. no social message, no heart and no dope flows because the beat's are always too slow. ofcourse we have our exceptions like Geto Boys and Outkast, but for the most part it's true.
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he's 100% correct
Explain how.
hip hop and southern rap are different species
hip hop is soulful, based on a culture...you have to have skillful rhymes or you get chased off stage (happens to the best of them) and when Guru was coming up you couldn't spit shit like "Dufflebag Boy" or you'd get kicked out the cypher
southern rap for the most part is mindless dribble lyrically with lots of bass/base to drown out the vocals when bumping it. no social message, no heart and no dope flows because the beat's are always too slow. ofcourse we have our exceptions like Geto Boys and Outkast, but for the most part it's true.
But again then Guru needs to be specific. Making a blanket statement like that throws groups like the Geto Boys, Outkast, etc under the bus. You can find wack shit on the east coast also. But if you talking about something specific then say it meaning Guru in this case.
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eh if y our going to take his words 100% literal - then yes he shouldn't say "southern hip hop"
but i think we all know what he meant - all this crunk garbage lil jon started that just keeps getting worse and worse
modern mainstream rap is no longer about lyricism - we're a long way from 1994 when 2pac/Nas/Biggie were at the forefront lol
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he's 100% correct
Explain how.
hip hop and southern rap are different species
hip hop is soulful, based on a culture...you have to have skillful rhymes or you get chased off stage (happens to the best of them) and when Guru was coming up you couldn't spit shit like "Dufflebag Boy" or you'd get kicked out the cypher
southern rap for the most part is mindless dribble lyrically with lots of bass/base to drown out the vocals when bumping it. no social message, no heart and no dope flows because the beat's are always too slow. ofcourse we have our exceptions like Geto Boys and Outkast, but for the most part it's true.
that's true but southern hip hop is still tha shit, it's just as good as the other versions/genres of hip hop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPv0o536V_g all day
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eh if y our going to take his words 100% literal - then yes he shouldn't say "southern hip hop"
but i think we all know what he meant - all this crunk garbage lil jon started that just keeps getting worse and worse
modern mainstream rap is no longer about lyricism - we're a long way from 1994 when 2pac/Nas/Biggie were at the forefront lol
I was not taking it in a literall sense. He should be smart enough to know that it could be taken that way though. Obviously if he would have named a few rappers he thought from the south were not hip hop then he would come off as a hater to most. Honest maybe but a hater. So it was easier to just say southern hip hop.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znuwO-bl034 Tha South will NEVER be shitty! Mark 'me
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gangstarr is probally saying that the new downsouth shit isnt hip hop , like mike jones , flo rida , soulja boy , etc the hot garbage shit ...
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guru isn't even relevant anymore, that's why he's talking shit to stir up publicity. quit worrying about the next man and get yours. guru hasn't been shit since the last gangstarr album
+1
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Guru Gang Starr should go listen to Scarface, Geto Boyz, Outkast, 8Ball & MJG, UGK, Mr. 3-2, Z-Ro, K-Rino, Killer Mike and countless others before he makes statements.
you know that the artists you listed weren´t ment to be dissed..im sure they mean ppl like: jeezy, lil jon, solja boy,d4l,etc.
Lil Jon shouldnt be there either, considering he gave us this gem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJTPol2YZY4
And countless others
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH, OOOOOKAAAYYY!!!!!!! ::)
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i told y'all Gangstarr was outdated. they died out right before the end of Throwback Jerseys
LMAO!
There ain't no respect nowhere, no ways, no more.....so..
no hate, but u can't deny the majority of the hate comes from the east..
And they ain't doin' nuthin' either but the same mainstream bullshit.
But I can't front, they mainstream shit better than down south, no doubt, but that's just personal preference.
Thoughhhh nobody should call nobody wack, becuz they all wack.
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gangstarr is probally saying that the new downsouth #### isnt hip hop , like mike jones , flo rida , soulja boy , etc the hot garbage #### ...
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gangstarr is probally saying that the new downsouth #### isnt hip hop , like mike jones , flo rida , soulja boy , etc the hot garbage #### ...
Why drag Premier into it? ???
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oh its hip hop grand-pa just not as you know it...the south are the ones keepin the shit alive if anything...im actually at a point where i dont wanna hear anything about the 30+ brigade cus this aint no east vs south thing in my eyes...its people who have had their prime,had their fun hating on the people doing it now...and of course some internet fans an fans from that era who latch on....but you throw stuff coming out the south on in a club full a young folk and its a madness!!...i aint denying these been some garbage put out but that goes throughout hip-hop...for every wack south artist you name i could name an east one...its a pretty ignorant statement from someone who should know better
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oh its hip hop grand-pa just not as you know it...the south are the ones keepin the shit alive if anything...im actually at a point where i dont wanna hear anything about the 30+ brigade cus this aint no east vs south thing in my eyes...its people who have had their prime,had their fun hating on the people doing it now...and of course some internet fans an fans from that era who latch on....but you throw stuff coming out the south on in a club full a young folk and its a madness!!...i aint denying these been some garbage put out but that goes throughout hip-hop...for every wack south artist you name i could name an east one...its a pretty ignorant statement from someone who should know better
you broke the board... >:(