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Title: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: Drudge on May 18, 2009, 11:04:36 AM
http://www.allhiphop.com/stories/rumors/archive/2009/05/15/21564288.aspx

Solar calls it "Pseudo hip hop" Illseed says he disagrees with  Guru and Solar on it.

Solar says you never see new rock and rollers never disrespects the veterans of rock and roll.

Case in point.. Rick Ross came in disrespecting Trick D, 50 cent disrespected alot of rappers I'm not sure if veterans should be used in this point.

http://www.allhiphop.com/stories/rumors/archive/2009/05/15/21564288.aspx
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: Lunatic on May 18, 2009, 11:06:58 AM
Guru Gang Starr should go listen to Scarface, Geto Boyz, Outkast, 8Ball & MJG, UGK, Mr. 3-2, Z-Ro, K-Rino, Killer Mike and countless others before he makes statements.
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: eazye on May 18, 2009, 12:11:30 PM
to quote Premo from dopewhiterappers' sig "7 grand really fucked your head up huh"
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: 2euce 7even on May 18, 2009, 12:11:41 PM
Guru Gang Starr should go listen to Scarface, Geto Boyz, Outkast, 8Ball & MJG, UGK, Mr. 3-2, Z-Ro, K-Rino, Killer Mike and countless others before he makes statements.

you know that the artists you listed weren´t ment to be dissed..im sure they mean ppl like: jeezy, lil jon, solja boy,d4l,etc.
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: Lunatic on May 18, 2009, 12:18:42 PM
Guru Gang Starr should go listen to Scarface, Geto Boyz, Outkast, 8Ball & MJG, UGK, Mr. 3-2, Z-Ro, K-Rino, Killer Mike and countless others before he makes statements.

you know that the artists you listed weren´t ment to be dissed..im sure they mean ppl like: jeezy, lil jon, solja boy,d4l,etc.
regardless, he's at fault for saying "southern" hip-hop. And Jeezy doesn't deserve to be categorized with the people u just named; esp. D4L/Soulja Boy.
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: Al Bundy on May 18, 2009, 02:30:35 PM
guru isn't even relevant anymore, that's why he's talking shit to stir up publicity. quit worrying about the next man and get yours. guru hasn't been shit since the last gangstarr album
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: Lunatic on May 18, 2009, 02:32:20 PM
guru isn't even relevant anymore, that's why he's talking shit to stir up publicity. quit worrying about the next man and get yours. guru hasn't been shit since the last gangstarr album
preach
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: Paul on May 18, 2009, 02:39:25 PM
Guru Gang Starr should go listen to Scarface, Geto Boyz, Outkast, 8Ball & MJG, UGK, Mr. 3-2, Z-Ro, K-Rino, Killer Mike and countless others before he makes statements.

you know that the artists you listed weren´t ment to be dissed..im sure they mean ppl like: jeezy, lil jon, solja boy,d4l,etc.


Lil Jon shouldnt be there either, considering he gave us this gem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJTPol2YZY4


And countless others
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: Lunatic on May 18, 2009, 02:40:09 PM
^Yea I was gonna say Jon don't belong there either.
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 18, 2009, 02:40:59 PM
i told y'all Gangstarr was outdated.  they died out right before the end of Throwback Jerseys
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: Invincible on May 18, 2009, 04:23:11 PM
i told y'all Gangstarr was outdated.  they died out right before the end of Throwback Jerseys

Gang Starr no. Guru, yes. Guru cannot hold down an album without Premier. Gang Starr still gets regular play by me now.
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: QuietTruth on May 18, 2009, 04:24:51 PM
i told y'all Gangstarr was outdated.  they died out right before the end of Throwback Jerseys
LMAO!



There ain't no respect nowhere, no ways, no more.....so..
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: Al Bundy on May 18, 2009, 04:55:34 PM
i told y'all Gangstarr was outdated.  they died out right before the end of Throwback Jerseys

Gang Starr no. Guru, yes. Guru cannot hold down an album without Premier. Gang Starr still gets regular play by me now.

word.
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: Rick McCrank on May 18, 2009, 04:56:28 PM
Guru Gang Starr should go listen to Scarface

he's on the "Moment of Truth" album
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: Al Bundy on May 18, 2009, 04:57:40 PM
Guru Gang Starr should go listen to Scarface

he's on the "Moment of Truth" album

lmao. i forgot about that betrayl track! face was dope on that
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: Lunatic on May 18, 2009, 06:34:54 PM
i told y'all Gangstarr was outdated.  they died out right before the end of Throwback Jerseys
LMAO!



There ain't no respect nowhere, no ways, no more.....so..
no hate, but u can't deny the majority of the hate comes from the east..
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: D-Nice on May 18, 2009, 06:43:01 PM
Wow I expected a little bit more maturity from Guru on that. That is the problem with blanket statements like that. Now if Illseed would have put him on the spot and said well what about Scarface then he would have got a completely different response. But Face is a Southern artist. That is like saying if Mims sold 3 million albums off of This Is Why I'm Hot, Rick Ross saying he hate East Coast rap.
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 18, 2009, 07:27:12 PM
he's 100% correct
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: D-Nice on May 18, 2009, 07:27:55 PM
he's 100% correct

Explain how.
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 18, 2009, 07:28:58 PM
i told y'all Gangstarr was outdated.  they died out right before the end of Throwback Jerseys

Gang Starr no. Guru, yes. Guru cannot hold down an album without Premier. Gang Starr still gets regular play by me now.

Guru can hold his own if Easy Mo Bee produced the beat haha
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 18, 2009, 07:34:00 PM
he's 100% correct

Explain how.

hip hop and southern rap are different species


hip hop is soulful, based on a culture...you have to have skillful rhymes or you get chased off stage  (happens to the best of them) and when Guru was coming up you couldn't spit shit like "Dufflebag Boy" or you'd get kicked out the cypher


southern rap for the most part is mindless dribble lyrically with lots of bass/base to drown out the vocals when bumping it.  no social message, no heart and no dope flows because the beat's are always too slow.  ofcourse we have our exceptions like Geto Boys and Outkast, but for the most part it's true.
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: D-Nice on May 18, 2009, 07:54:54 PM
he's 100% correct

Explain how.

hip hop and southern rap are different species


hip hop is soulful, based on a culture...you have to have skillful rhymes or you get chased off stage  (happens to the best of them) and when Guru was coming up you couldn't spit shit like "Dufflebag Boy" or you'd get kicked out the cypher


southern rap for the most part is mindless dribble lyrically with lots of bass/base to drown out the vocals when bumping it.  no social message, no heart and no dope flows because the beat's are always too slow.  ofcourse we have our exceptions like Geto Boys and Outkast, but for the most part it's true.

But again then Guru needs to be specific. Making a blanket statement like that throws groups like the Geto Boys, Outkast, etc under the bus. You can find wack shit on the east coast also. But if you talking about something specific then say it meaning Guru in this case.
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 18, 2009, 08:03:08 PM
eh if y our going to take his words 100% literal - then yes he shouldn't say "southern hip hop"


but i think we all know what he meant - all this crunk garbage lil jon started that just keeps getting worse and worse


modern mainstream rap is no longer about lyricism - we're a long way from 1994 when 2pac/Nas/Biggie were at the forefront lol
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 18, 2009, 08:05:41 PM
he's 100% correct

Explain how.

hip hop and southern rap are different species


hip hop is soulful, based on a culture...you have to have skillful rhymes or you get chased off stage  (happens to the best of them) and when Guru was coming up you couldn't spit shit like "Dufflebag Boy" or you'd get kicked out the cypher


southern rap for the most part is mindless dribble lyrically with lots of bass/base to drown out the vocals when bumping it.  no social message, no heart and no dope flows because the beat's are always too slow.  ofcourse we have our exceptions like Geto Boys and Outkast, but for the most part it's true.


that's true but southern hip hop is still tha shit, it's just as good as the other versions/genres of hip hop








http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPv0o536V_g   all day
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: D-Nice on May 18, 2009, 08:08:51 PM
eh if y our going to take his words 100% literal - then yes he shouldn't say "southern hip hop"


but i think we all know what he meant - all this crunk garbage lil jon started that just keeps getting worse and worse


modern mainstream rap is no longer about lyricism - we're a long way from 1994 when 2pac/Nas/Biggie were at the forefront lol

I was not taking it in a literall sense. He should be smart enough to know that it could be taken that way though. Obviously if he would have named a few rappers he thought from the south were not hip hop then he would come off as a hater to most. Honest maybe but a hater. So it was easier to just say southern hip hop.
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on May 18, 2009, 08:13:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znuwO-bl034   Tha South will NEVER be shitty!  Mark 'me
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: westside159 on May 18, 2009, 08:14:12 PM
gangstarr is probally saying that the new downsouth shit isnt hip hop , like mike jones , flo rida , soulja boy ,  etc  the hot garbage shit ...      
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: stillinrehab on May 18, 2009, 08:22:27 PM
guru isn't even relevant anymore, that's why he's talking shit to stir up publicity. quit worrying about the next man and get yours. guru hasn't been shit since the last gangstarr album

+1
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: 2euce 7even on May 19, 2009, 05:59:34 AM
Guru Gang Starr should go listen to Scarface, Geto Boyz, Outkast, 8Ball & MJG, UGK, Mr. 3-2, Z-Ro, K-Rino, Killer Mike and countless others before he makes statements.

you know that the artists you listed weren´t ment to be dissed..im sure they mean ppl like: jeezy, lil jon, solja boy,d4l,etc.


Lil Jon shouldnt be there either, considering he gave us this gem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJTPol2YZY4


And countless others

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH, OOOOOKAAAYYY!!!!!!!  ::)
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: QuietTruth on May 19, 2009, 09:17:39 AM
i told y'all Gangstarr was outdated.  they died out right before the end of Throwback Jerseys
LMAO!



There ain't no respect nowhere, no ways, no more.....so..
no hate, but u can't deny the majority of the hate comes from the east..

And they ain't doin' nuthin' either but the same mainstream bullshit.

But I can't front, they mainstream shit better than down south, no doubt, but that's just personal preference.

Thoughhhh nobody should call nobody wack, becuz they all wack.
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: Drudge on May 20, 2009, 06:37:08 AM
gangstarr is probally saying that the new downsouth #### isnt hip hop , like mike jones , flo rida , soulja boy ,  etc  the hot garbage #### ...      

Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: NillerTheKid on May 20, 2009, 09:28:23 AM
gangstarr is probally saying that the new downsouth #### isnt hip hop , like mike jones , flo rida , soulja boy ,  etc  the hot garbage #### ...      


Why drag Premier into it?  ???
Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: StreetsAllSalute on May 20, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
oh its hip hop grand-pa just not as you know it...the south are the ones keepin the shit alive if anything...im actually at a point where i dont wanna hear anything about the 30+ brigade cus this aint no east vs south thing in my eyes...its people who have had their prime,had their fun hating on the people doing it now...and of course some internet fans an fans from that era who latch on....but you throw  stuff coming out the south on in a club full a young folk and its a madness!!...i aint denying these been some garbage put out but that goes throughout hip-hop...for every wack south artist you name i could name an east one...its a pretty ignorant statement from someone who should know better


 



Title: Re: Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop
Post by: KyleEshna on May 20, 2009, 02:11:53 PM
oh its hip hop grand-pa just not as you know it...the south are the ones keepin the shit alive if anything...im actually at a point where i dont wanna hear anything about the 30+ brigade cus this aint no east vs south thing in my eyes...its people who have had their prime,had their fun hating on the people doing it now...and of course some internet fans an fans from that era who latch on....but you throw  stuff coming out the south on in a club full a young folk and its a madness!!...i aint denying these been some garbage put out but that goes throughout hip-hop...for every wack south artist you name i could name an east one...its a pretty ignorant statement from someone who should know better

you broke the board...  >:(