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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: LyRiCaL_G on May 26, 2009, 06:36:39 PM
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Thats pretty low imo.
Not for the average rapper, not at all!! But for eminem, thats low! And it is still possible to push 700k+ as wayne, kanye, jigga have shown but even these names are not as big as eminem!
Another thing is eminem has always had solid continious sales, like he had a large fan base of people who actually buy his cd and always sells a solid number for many weeks BUT he always has had huge first full week numbers too!
Imo this is a flop in terms of numbers! Eminem is still the biggest cat in the game in terms of name!
I am actually glad he never sold much first week, people are getting tired of the same old formula for first single, try something new for once. ::)
Also i give interscope there props, the promotion they did for the album was great, they never failed eminem at all, its just if you drop wack singles, it finally caught up with him to some extent in terms of numbers and am im glad. The promotion was major but the joint was nowhere near as big as lolipop of lil wayne and dudes first week sales represented that instead of just marketing so im actually glad eminem never sold much. Maybe it'll make him come abit fresher on relapse 2.
However im still not convinced, some people are feeling the relapse record and im sure interscope will see this as an oppurtunity to make relapse 2 have the bigger sales of the two, sort of like MMLP followed SSLP since thats the formula there trying to recreate. And since reviews while mixed, there have been alot of positives said too, im sure we'll not get much change and interscope will drop relapse 2 in the same formula as all other eminem records.
Anyway congrats to eminem for hitting the number one spot, he was faar faar ahead of everyone else in terms of numbers in the weekly sales but since its eminem and he has been away for so long, i was expecting much better.
pz
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Yeah that is low for Shady. I take into consideration the state of the music biz and 50 even with the crazy buzz he got with the whole Kanye thing did almost 690k 1st week. It will be interesting to see how he does in the next couple of weeks, still has time to do good numbers.
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that's pretty awesome, imo.
i mean like in this economy & given that hip hop sales in general aren't what they were when Em first debuted, those are great numbers to me.
how much did Wayne sell his first week?
Em should reach platinum status, 2x might be pushing it; but you never know, it's only been a week.
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that's pretty awesome, imo.
i mean like in this economy & given that hip hop sales in general aren't what they were when Em first debuted, those are great numbers to me.
how much did Wayne sell his first week?
Em should reach platinum status, 2x might be pushing it; but you never know, it's only been a week.
Wayne did a mil, Kanye did 930k on his last album
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that's pretty awesome, imo.
i mean like in this economy & given that hip hop sales in general aren't what they were when Em first debuted, those are great numbers to me.
how much did Wayne sell his first week?
Em should reach platinum status, 2x might be pushing it; but you never know, it's only been a week.
lil wayne went above a million. I dont really see the economy playing MUCH of a factor in terms of record sales. Sales have been decreasing even before the recession etc but big artists have always sold well. Jigga went through a stage when he was dropping an album a year and each was hittin 500-700k so for eminem who always hits around a mill first week to get 600k is low imo.
pz
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alright numbers but if they keep pushing out the singles and promotion continuously it will get to a lot more people and do a lot better overall. still potential for a few mil i think. 50 will struggle to match it without some kind of killer single and big promotional push.
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Shows how much downloading has changed the industry but I have a feeling his numbers would have been lower anyways. He's been gone for a minute, people taste's have changed, and none of his singles were true radio bangers. The most played one was We Made You.
Based on those freestyles I'm looking forward to his future stuff more then I have enjoyed relapse. I could feel him having fun on that Chonkyfire freestyle. I actually think they should use that chorus for a track. "i got you slipping on my swag juice." That shit is on constant rotation.
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Yeah that is low for Shady. I take into consideration the state of the music biz and 50 even with the crazy buzz he got with the whole Kanye thing did almost 690k 1st week. It will be interesting to see how he does in the next couple of weeks, still has time to do good numbers.
Yeh one thing about eminem is he has solid numbers for weeks on end because of who he is so while his first week numbers are good for most artists...they are low for shady. He will however easily hit 1.5 mill, maybe 2 mill or more depending on how much success other singles get but yeh i agree with your post.
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that's pretty awesome, imo.
i mean like in this economy & given that hip hop sales in general aren't what they were when Em first debuted, those are great numbers to me.
how much did Wayne sell his first week?
Em should reach platinum status, 2x might be pushing it; but you never know, it's only been a week.
Wayne did a mil, Kanye did 930k on his last album
well that is fairly weak then, but whatever.
Wayne has the biggest fan base in the music industry (forget just rap), so that's not even fair & Kanye sold out for sales so fuck him lol.
Eminem should have done better, but i'm sure he's happy with how he did.
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Shows how much downloading has changed the industry but I have a feeling his numbers would have been lower anyways. He's been gone for a minute, people taste's have changed, and none of his singles were true radio bangers. The most played one was We Made You.
Based on those freestyles I'm looking forward to his future stuff more then I have enjoyed relapse. I could feel him having fun on that Chonkyfire freestyle. I actually think they should use that chorus for a track. "i got you slipping on my swag juice." That shit is on constant rotation.
The best 'freestyle' i heard off eminem recently is the alchemist freestyle he did, well its not a freestyle clearly, prewritten stuff but thats some of the best shit ive heard eminem spit in a minute, he could be hitting some form.
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Ye sold Graduation with 950,000 but he sold 808s with 450,000.
Wayne did break a million but he's the face of the new wave.
Two types of freestyles: one's written, one's off the dome.
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Word, and that was clearly prewritten.
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Yeah that is low for Shady. I take into consideration the state of the music biz and 50 even with the crazy buzz he got with the whole Kanye thing did almost 690k 1st week. It will be interesting to see how he does in the next couple of weeks, still has time to do good numbers.
Yeh one thing about eminem is he has solid numbers for weeks on end because of who he is so while his first week numbers are good for most artists...they are low for shady. He will however easily hit 1.5 mill, maybe 2 mill or more depending on how much success other singles get but yeh i agree with your post.
To be honest I really did not see or hear alot of promo for the album. Yeah he had a couple TV appearances here and there but it seemed different this time around. I think the timing of the album, layoff, new day and age in the music industry all play a part in it, but when Kanye and 50 dropped it seemed like a event. I used to get that feeling when Em dropped, but not this time around.
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thats pretty good numbers.
remember when people would laugh at 100K opening weeks?
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actually i dont think its bad, the economic play a huge influence why he didt hit plat. His last album dropped in november, the date it get dropped also means something.. Its also becouse everybody is downloading, it got leaked 2 weeks before and everybody in here was like downloading it then.. I dont think anything was wrong with his singles and promotion,,
50 cent need a slamming single to do any damage to the charts or else he will sell 300000 first week :P
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WTF ? 600,000 First week is crazy , that is alot of units for 1 week dude , what are you talking about ? anyways im glad it sold alot , im tired of this new rap shit
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Flop??? ??? ??? ??? He's 1'st in 20 countries how thee fuck is that flop..he's world wide sell like kanye in 2 years
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After landing at No. 1 in the UK with his fifth consecutive album, Eminem is on track to top all U.S. sales charts as Relapse will reportedly become the highest-selling debut of the year with estimated 630,000 sold copies in its first week.
In addition to Shady, other hip-hop debuts will also hit the charts.
The big story, obviously, is Eminem, whose appeal remains strong enough to get him the year's biggest debut at somewhere between 600k and 630k, leapfrogging Interscope labelmates U2, whose 484k is now the second biggest bow of '09. Both Method Man & Redman's Blackout 2! and Busta Rhymes' Back On My Bullsh*t is set to sell between 60k and 65k. (Rumor Mill Chart Preview)
Based on reports from iTunes, Relapse has landed within the top 5 digital downloads around the globe.
In the US, Relapse is # 1; In the UK Relapse stands at #2; Australia Relapse is #3; In France and Germany Eminem's album hits iTunes charts at #5.(iTunes)
Along with British rapper Dizzee Rascal, Em is again making a splash with Relapse in the UK.
Rap artists celebrated a stellar sales week on Sunday's new U.K. sales charts, with Dizzee Rascal and Armand Van Helden's "Bonkers" (Dirtee Stank) new at the top of the singles survey, and Eminem's "Relapse" (Interscope/Universal) powering straight to No. 1 on the album bestsellers...The Eminem album is his fifth in a row to top the U.K. chart, a run dating back to "The Marshall Mathers LP" in 2000.(Billboard)
With 36 percent reporting, Hits Daily Double reports Eminem's Relapse sales at about 195K. Last week, one-day estimates predicted Slim Shady will lead all sales by leaps and bounds.
He may be a homophobic, pill-popping, celeb-dissing misogynist, but there are at least 600-650k others who can relate to Eminem. That's the number of people we estimate will pick up the Detroit hip-hop bad boy's Relapse, his first album for Shady/Aftermath/Interscope in almost five years, based on reports from retailers across this great nation of ours who haven't yet hung up a "For Lease" sign. U2 bowed at #1 with 480k back in March. Def Jam/IDJ's Method Man & Redman follows with 65-70k and Universal Motown's iconic Busta Rhymes, reunited with former Elektra topper Sylvia Rhone, both at between 60-65k. (Hits Daily Double)
To get an idea of how Shady is doing in the Big Apple, SOHH spoke with a Union Square Virgin Megastore to see how Tuesday's new releases are doing.
According to the rep, Busta Rhymes' Back On My Bullsh*t has sold 25 copies as of this afternoon, Redman and Method Man's Blackout 2 has sold 46 pieces and Eminem's Relapse is moving 216 copies since the store opened up this morning. (SOHH)
Busta Rhymes recently told SOHH that he looks forward to the first week sales for all hip-hop albums coming out, which includes albums from DJ Drama and Red Man and Method Man.
"I feel real good about it because its a great day in hip-hop," he told SOHH. "There aint been this much amazing releases on the same day in a minute. All of this dope shit in the marketplace, hip-hop needs it right now. We need it to show people how lucrative the business of hip-hop music still is on a corporate level. We need to also get these tours up and running. I just look forward to seeing what the outcome is going to be. I'm fans of every one of those artists I'ma be out there buying all three of them shits myself that day." (SOHH)
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Shows how much downloading has changed the industry but I have a feeling his numbers would have been lower anyways. He's been gone for a minute, people taste's have changed, and none of his singles were true radio bangers. The most played one was We Made You.
Based on those freestyles I'm looking forward to his future stuff more then I have enjoyed relapse. I could feel him having fun on that Chonkyfire freestyle. I actually think they should use that chorus for a track. "i got you slipping on my swag juice." That shit is on constant rotation.
downloading isn't hurting Eminem that much, as he's selling like crack on itunes :P
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EM used to be great but he has been pure trash for 7 years now, fuck album sales. Who gives a shit about bullshit album sales, no real fan should.
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LOL.. Budenn ;D
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Yeah his first week numbers could've been bigger for about 200k if he had a better single and not some recycled bullshit but calling this a flop is reaching. And mentioning Kanye, Wayne and Jigga is also reaching. Kanye did 900k but that was when he and 50 created this event, 808's only did 400k. Jigga sold like 750k with his comeback album but then had a 80& drop in 2nd week, simillar story with 50 and Curtis. And then there's Wayne who did 1 mill but that was hype, his new rock album is getting pushed back for like 6 months now.
First week sales are overrated, flop will be if in the end he's like under 3mill. And to say that the economy doesn't play part is also a weird statement. And you keep saying how the promotion for this album was amazing but I don't see it. They mostly relied on the name Eminem and that he is back. He had normal TV and radio appearances for any Interscope artist and when they started with the whole drug, rehab campaign it was mostly for Internet users and it was a little late (it was like 3 weeks until the record dropped).
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It did 190k in the UK which is pretty good. I think 300K = plat over here but Em usually goes 3x plat. He needs one hit and one relatively high charting single to help him do BIG numbers. Plus a tour would significantly help sales...
I say wait and see what Jay does and what Kanye or Wayne do next album. I wouldn't be surprised if they do 500K or less.
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Do these sales charts include digital purchases? 600k is good these days but yeah, he could have done a bit better. Calling it a flop is ridiculous
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Bad economy isn't that significant factor for poor album sales. Even in tougher times consumers like to have luxuries. They rather hold on big investments like houses and cars than buying music.
What really kills album sales today is Itunes. In the '90s when people heard a song that they liked they would go to a record store and buy the whole album. Today they don' have to do that, they just log on to Itunes, get the song and perhaps preview some of the songs from the album and purchase the ones they liked.
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Bad economy isn't that significant factor for poor album sales. Even in tougher times consumers like to have luxuries. They rather hold on big investments like houses and cars than buying music.
What really kills album sales today is Itunes. In the '90s when people heard a song that they liked they would go to a record store and buy the whole album. Today they don' have to do that, they just log on to Itunes, get the song and perhaps preview some of the songs from the album and purchase the ones they liked.
truth ^^^^ (although album sales may still be slightly affected by the economy - unemplyoment rising means people may be struggling and aren't gonna waste $10 on an album when it could buy them food).
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Do these sales charts include digital purchases?
That's a valid question.
I don't remember when was the last time I bought an album at a record store but I buy digital all the time.
I wouldn't be surprised if itunes amounted to another 600k for Em.
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clearly not a flop, but i did expect a lot higher.
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eminem flop?? what abaut red&meth,they like diomond floping
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Busta Rhymes flopped sooo hard too
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Bad economy isn't that significant factor for poor album sales. Even in tougher times consumers like to have luxuries. They rather hold on big investments like houses and cars than buying music.
What really kills album sales today is Itunes. In the '90s when people heard a song that they liked they would go to a record store and buy the whole album. Today they don' have to do that, they just log on to Itunes, get the song and perhaps preview some of the songs from the album and purchase the ones they liked.
truth ^^^^ (although album sales may still be slightly affected by the economy - unemplyoment rising means people may be struggling and aren't gonna waste $10 on an album when it could buy them food).
Yeah that is true. Of course if you live with a strict budget you'll weight your spendings more carefully but the bad economy = low album sales is exaggerated . Perhaps the music is just so damn uninspired these days. I must say that I haven't heard anything stunning in a long time.
In my opinion labels should start showing statistics of how much money they made of record sales in 2009 and in 1999. That way you could tell if music business has really suffered.
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Bad economy isn't that significant factor for poor album sales. Even in tougher times consumers like to have luxuries. They rather hold on big investments like houses and cars than buying music.
What really kills album sales today is Itunes. In the '90s when people heard a song that they liked they would go to a record store and buy the whole album. Today they don' have to do that, they just log on to Itunes, get the song and perhaps preview some of the songs from the album and purchase the ones they liked.
truth ^^^^ (although album sales may still be slightly affected by the economy - unemplyoment rising means people may be struggling and aren't gonna waste $10 on an album when it could buy them food).
Yeah that is true. Of course if you live with a strict budget you'll weight your spendings more carefully but the bad economy = low album sales is exaggerated . Perhaps the music is just so damn uninspired these days. I must say that I haven't heard anything stunning in a long time.
In my opinion labels should start showing statistics of how much money they made of record sales in 2009 and in 1999. That way you could tell if music business has really suffered.
Its weird cause cinema ticket sales have done better recently yet music sales continue to slump. Maybe its the fact seeing a film at a cinema > watching it illegally on the pc or waiting till dvd release. Maybe the music industry needs to offer more stuff that can't simply be downloaded when releasing CDs.
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You all forgot one thing: its not worldwide sales. He sold waaay more than 1 mill worldwide ;)
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Yeah his first week numbers could've been bigger for about 200k if he had a better single and not some recycled bullshit but calling this a flop is reaching. And mentioning Kanye, Wayne and Jigga is also reaching. Kanye did 900k but that was when he and 50 created this event, 808's only did 400k. Jigga sold like 750k with his comeback album but then had a 80& drop in 2nd week, simillar story with 50 and Curtis. And then there's Wayne who did 1 mill but that was hype, his new rock album is getting pushed back for like 6 months now.
First week sales are overrated, flop will be if in the end he's like under 3mill. And to say that the economy doesn't play part is also a weird statement. And you keep saying how the promotion for this album was amazing but I don't see it. They mostly relied on the name Eminem and that he is back. He had normal TV and radio appearances for any Interscope artist and when they started with the whole drug, rehab campaign it was mostly for Internet users and it was a little late (it was like 3 weeks until the record dropped).
yep
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Shows how much downloading has changed the industry but I have a feeling his numbers would have been lower anyways. He's been gone for a minute, people taste's have changed, and none of his singles were true radio bangers. The most played one was We Made You.
Based on those freestyles I'm looking forward to his future stuff more then I have enjoyed relapse. I could feel him having fun on that Chonkyfire freestyle. I actually think they should use that chorus for a track. "i got you slipping on my swag juice." That shit is on constant rotation.
downloading isn't hurting Eminem that much, as he's selling like crack on itunes :P
I don't believe that one minute. Downloading has changed the name of the game. I don't understand why people don't think this is the case.
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Shows how much downloading has changed the industry but I have a feeling his numbers would have been lower anyways. He's been gone for a minute, people taste's have changed, and none of his singles were true radio bangers. The most played one was We Made You.
Based on those freestyles I'm looking forward to his future stuff more then I have enjoyed relapse. I could feel him having fun on that Chonkyfire freestyle. I actually think they should use that chorus for a track. "i got you slipping on my swag juice." That shit is on constant rotation.
downloading isn't hurting Eminem that much, as he's selling like crack on itunes :P
I don't believe that one minute. Downloading has changed the name of the game. I don't understand why people don't think this is the case.
that's up to you, but Eminem is doing better than i expected with digital sales.
you can check the charts, facts don't lie.
not to mention that, not everybody that downloads an album, would have purchased it, if there was no internet.
downloading mainly gets put in a negative perspective, but thanks to the file spreading, music reached people that it didn't reach before.
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thats not bad, goin Gold on the first week is a success IMO, and at this rate he'll most likely be goin Platinum for this one.
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I wonder how much he did worlwide.
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I know he did over 200K in the UK. Depends on his fanbase eslsewhere...
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It seems like em and 50 are just as big in other countries as they are in the states.Where as most rappers only have a fan base in the states.
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As of now, the highest selling hip hop record of the last 4 years is "Tha Carter III" at 3x platinum. I see Em hitting 2x platinum by the end of the summer, considering his appearances on upcoming award shows and events, a potential though very limited tour schedule and if he drops another video with mainstream appeal, most likely "Beautiful" being the obvious choice. I'll be surprised if he ties Wayne's 3 million, because you have to consider the numbers these days. It's a major accomplishment for an artist to hit gold, let alone platinum.
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i'd say worldwide Slim is at least 2x platinum. ;) 8)
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more and more people have access to the internet these days, so i can see 600 still good but i kno his next one will be more.....but they make up for alot of it in Concerts and Itunes.
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I didn't even buy the album, and I was probably one of his biggest fans from Feb. 99' when he released the Slim Shady LP all the way until D12 World dropped, I had to be one of his biggest fans. So if people like me aren't even buying his albums anymore than something is wrong. I thought the bonus tracks were excellent, just as on Encore I didn't like the album, but I thought "We As Americuns" was a great song. I break Em's album's down like this.
Slim Shady LP- 5 out of 5
MMLP- 5 out of 5
D12-Devils Night- 5 out of 5
Eminem Show- 5 out of 5
8 Mile Soundtrack- 5 out of 5
D12 World- 3 out of 5
Encore- 2 out of 5
Relapse- 1 out of 5 (to me the whole album isn't even good for more than one listen. I wish he would of put a whole album out with the same style as the bonus cuts)
That being said...I wanted him to outsell Wayne so I'm really disappointed with that.
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yer I was listening t As the World Turns earlier today and it made me realise how dope Em was back in the day. 2nd verse is one of the funniest sotires ive ever heard in a rap song. 8)
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How can you give relapse a 1?what the fuck is wrong with your ears?insane>as the world turns
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How can you give relapse a 1?what the fuck is wrong with your ears?insane>as the world turns
i want to know how The Eminem Show & the 8 Mile Soundtrack got 5/5's; even Devil's Night was pure greatness, but a 5/5.
you would really throw those 3 against his first two & other 5/5 albums like Illmatic, Me Against The World, All Eyez On Me, Doggystyle, The Chronic, etc.?
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Damn thats a lot I am shure he will stay in the top 10 for
quite a while.Didnt he do a lot to promote the album? Compared to
his last album sales it can be called a flop but Lil wayne really only hit a mill in
one week because of Lolipop it got a whole lot
of radio play and what not.
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Shows how much downloading has changed the industry but I have a feeling his numbers would have been lower anyways. He's been gone for a minute, people taste's have changed, and none of his singles were true radio bangers. The most played one was We Made You.
Based on those freestyles I'm looking forward to his future stuff more then I have enjoyed relapse. I could feel him having fun on that Chonkyfire freestyle. I actually think they should use that chorus for a track. "i got you slipping on my swag juice." That shit is on constant rotation.
downloading isn't hurting Eminem that much, as he's selling like crack on itunes :P
I don't believe that one minute. Downloading has changed the name of the game. I don't understand why people don't think this is the case.
I agree Downloading/internet has clearly changed the business in many ways and as usual, the entertainment business is reactive to change, its not proactive hence why so many cats fail now.
I would have copped relapse if i never downloaded it, but after listening it i decided not to. However if i couldnt get a link, i would have copped it. I am glad i downloaded it though, i would have been dissapointed with my bread going on this.
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How can you give relapse a 1?what the fuck is wrong with your ears?insane>as the world turns
i want to know how The Eminem Show & the 8 Mile Soundtrack got 5/5's; even Devil's Night was pure greatness, but a 5/5.
you would really throw those 3 against his first two & other 5/5 albums like Illmatic, Me Against The World, All Eyez On Me, Doggystyle, The Chronic, etc.?
Yes I would
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You must smoke a lot of crack
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lol.
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You must smoke a lot of crack
I don't think I'm the only person that considers them to be 5 out of 5 classic albums...
The Eminem Show- Many people agree that Eminem showed alot of growth with this album and that it was as good or better than his previous albums.
Devils Night- What else do you want on this fuckin album to say it's a classic?
8 Mile Soundtrack- "Lose Yourself" is going to end up being Eminem's "Thriller" 20 years from now. 20 years from now he will be most remembered for the track "Lose Yourself" (and also the track "Stan" from MMLP is another "Thriller"). Those will be his "Thriller" tracks. "Lose Yourself" was a #1 record and his biggest record he ever did and I believe it was the climax of his career. Then "8 Mile Rd." is my personal favorite Eminem track of all time. If you had those two songs, and the rest of the tracks were all Soulja Boy, Master P, and MC Hammer tracks, you would still have a classic album! However, there were other great cuts on the album, I thought Boomkats track was a great song, Rakim, 50 Cent and D12 had nice contributions, and Xzibit and was at the hieght of his game back then.
...are all Classic albums 5 out of 5
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I didn't even buy the album, and I was probably one of his biggest fans from Feb. 99' when he released the Slim Shady LP all the way until D12 World dropped, I had to be one of his biggest fans. So if people like me aren't even buying his albums anymore than something is wrong. I thought the bonus tracks were excellent, just as on Encore I didn't like the album, but I thought "We As Americuns" was a great song. I break Em's album's down like this.
Slim Shady LP- 5 out of 5
MMLP- 5 out of 5
D12-Devils Night- 5 out of 5
Eminem Show- 5 out of 5
8 Mile Soundtrack- 5 out of 5
D12 World- 3 out of 5
Encore- 2 out of 5
Relapse- 1 out of 5 (to me the whole album isn't even good for more than one listen. I wish he would of put a whole album out with the same style as the bonus cuts)
That being said...I wanted him to outsell Wayne so I'm really disappointed with that.
You're outta your mind. And you call yourself a writer? Relapse portrays the ART of writing like non of his other albums. I've spoken to other knowledgeable cats and they will tell ya, the way EM puts words together on some of these relapse songs is untouchable, the material has to blow your mind if you're a writer. You're looking at the subject matter from a square's perspective and hating just because drugs don't apply to you.
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I didn't even buy the album, and I was probably one of his biggest fans from Feb. 99' when he released the Slim Shady LP all the way until D12 World dropped, I had to be one of his biggest fans. So if people like me aren't even buying his albums anymore than something is wrong. I thought the bonus tracks were excellent, just as on Encore I didn't like the album, but I thought "We As Americuns" was a great song. I break Em's album's down like this.
Slim Shady LP- 5 out of 5
MMLP- 5 out of 5
D12-Devils Night- 5 out of 5
Eminem Show- 5 out of 5
8 Mile Soundtrack- 5 out of 5
D12 World- 3 out of 5
Encore- 2 out of 5
Relapse- 1 out of 5 (to me the whole album isn't even good for more than one listen. I wish he would of put a whole album out with the same style as the bonus cuts)
That being said...I wanted him to outsell Wayne so I'm really disappointed with that.
You're outta your mind. And you call yourself a writer? Relapse portrays the ART of writing like non of his other albums. I've spoken to other knowledgeable cats and they will tell ya, the way EM puts words together on some of these relapse songs is untouchable, the material has to blow your mind if you're a writer. You're looking at the subject matter from a square's perspective and hating just because drugs don't apply to you.
unless it is weed then all drugs are for squares ..pils are for losers & squares. relapse is eminems worst album ever. you are one who is looking from square's perspective . nothing about album blows my mind instead it grosses me out. eminem only gets away with what he is saying because he is white no black person could get away with it.eminem talks about surban white boy shit not real hip hop aka african amerian shit.hip hop is african american street culture not surban white boy music like eminem .i can't feel or relate to anything eminem raps about because i african american from east st louis & none of that crap eminem raps about happens around here at all. everything eminem raps about happens in white surban part of st louis not the hood at all.so you are not hood & you are white.
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unless it is weed then all drugs are for squares ..pils are for losers & squares. relapse is eminems worst album ever. you are one who is looking from square's perspective . nothing about album blows my mind instead it grosses me out. eminem only gets away with what he is saying because he is white no black person could get away with it.eminem talks about surban white boy shit not real hip ho aka african amerian shit.hip hop is african american street culture not surban white boy music like eminem .i can't feel or relate to anything eminem raps about because i african american from east st ouis & none of that crap eminem raps about happens around here at all. everything eminem raps anbout happens in white surban part of st louis not the hood at all.so you are not hood & you are white.
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You're outta your mind. And you call yourself a writer? Relapse portrays the ART of writing like non of his other albums. I've spoken to other knowledgeable cats and they will tell ya, the way EM puts words together on some of these relapse songs is untouchable, the material has to blow your mind if you're a writer. You're looking at the subject matter from a square's perspective and hating just because drugs don't apply to you.
The problem isn't his rhyme scheme. The way he is putting words together is untouchable, that part I agree. The problem is his content.
As far as drugs, the only drug I use is ganja, and that's really only when I was out in LA or whenever I go to West Africa. It doesn't make me a square just because I don't pop pills, nor does it mean that I'm not capable of understanding Eminem's music. Remember his first album had a great deal of content about poppin pills and I consider that record to be a classic.
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I think 600,000 in the first week is pretty good. With all the downloading that goes on, it's extremely hard to instantly go platinum anymore. Maybe Lil Wayne, Kanye, and Nas have sold more than that lately, but Eminem has also been out of the public eye for four years. I actually think the sales will continue to stay strong for at least a couple more weeks. And as someone else said, if radio and video support is handled properly the album will probably continue to sell well.
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yeah i herd 50 on 106 say that Em officially sold 100 Million records !
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i think you guys are putting too much of an emphasis on sales.
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EM used to be great but he has been pure trash for 7 years now, fuck album sales. Who gives a shit about bullshit album sales, no real fan should.
man shut the fucc up , Relapse is the best hip hop album to drop this year no doubt .. dope shit 8) 8)
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man there are some bigtime squares on here , do you know Eminem almost overdosed on drugs ? He went to rehab for real and does drugs for real , not like these fake rappers who talk about it on albums but dont really do it in real life , he is telling his life story on wax and thats called being a true artist .. dope album 5/5 8) 8)
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Going gold in a week was always great. It was great in the 90's, and it's definitely great in 09.
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Going gold in a week was always great. It was great in the 90's, and it's definitely great in 09.
That's what I'm saying. His album shipped gold. You can't hardly call that a failure. Especially in the downloading age. The fact is, it's difficult as fuck to go platinum nowadays. Especially when you've been out of the public eye for any amount of time. With the right promotion, this album will still go platinum in time.