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Title: "Okay , You're Right " by 50 Cent = Yet another failure ..
Post by: dameons on June 04, 2009, 08:46:43 PM
50 , retire please . Even Storch and  Dre beats caiin't help you .just get out of Detox' way , you pop artist sell out .
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Post by: Let's Get Down on June 05, 2009, 01:43:43 AM
haha, track is okay. nothing special..if he's a pop artist sell out, then what's snoop?
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Post by: The Watcher on June 05, 2009, 02:42:17 AM
haha, track is okay. nothing special..if he's a pop artist sell out, then what's snoop?

way past the retirement age?
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Post by: Chamillitary Click on June 05, 2009, 11:19:33 AM
not in my eyes.

i judge music by how much i like it, not how much other people like it & cop it.

song was dope to me, so hopefully he comes with that same shit. 8)
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Post by: Dre-Day on June 05, 2009, 12:46:43 PM
not in my eyes.

i judge music by how much i like it, not how much other people like it & cop it.

song was dope to me, so hopefully he comes with that same shit. 8)

ok, ok, ok.

lol
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Post by: Meho on June 05, 2009, 12:52:41 PM
This ain't bad but it's just so predictable and with no effort to it. Sounded like 50 stole a skeleton beat from Dre and freestyled on it.

Get Up should've blown up though, that track was really dope.
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Post by: Action! on June 05, 2009, 01:07:24 PM
He seems to be going for this skeleton sound since Curtis.  Just a simple drum beat, his vocals, and some minor additional elements.  It's not bad but it's not popping.  The track was aight which isn't saying much.  I enjoyed it on one listen but it doesn't get any replay.
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Post by: Matty on June 05, 2009, 01:09:00 PM
'Get Up' is immense! after 'In Da Club' and 'Outta Control Remix' it is easily 50's hottest single. wasn't pushed very hard though, and the video was terrible.
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Post by: Tha Crip on June 05, 2009, 01:31:22 PM
it aint no IN DA CLUB but it bangs in the ride and in the end thats really all i care about  8)
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Post by: Portugoal on June 05, 2009, 01:32:35 PM
50 , retire please . Even Storch and  Dre beats caiin't help you .just get out of Detox' way , you pop artist sell out .

I played it once and deleted it off my hard drive :)
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Post by: dubsmith_nz on June 05, 2009, 05:13:02 PM
Tracks all good, but I don't think they shoulda released it, beat was a skeleton, and Interscope aint ready to push Fif yet as this had no promo...

I like Fif as an artist but I really don't think there's anyway this album can live up to his own expectations success wise, same formula different beat and it's getting boring...
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 05, 2009, 06:16:58 PM
yeah thats been the best song hes released still, he messed up but i guess the fans werent feelin it but thats a dope joint




This ain't bad but it's just so predictable and with no effort to it. Sounded like 50 stole a skeleton beat from Dre and freestyled on it.

Get Up should've blown up though, that track was really dope.
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on June 07, 2009, 01:11:43 PM
ummmm.... how bout maybe if it was actually promoted as a real single it would be bigger than wat it iz now.
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Post by: Okka on June 07, 2009, 01:18:34 PM
Boring ass loop, nuthin' more.
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Post by: The King on June 07, 2009, 01:47:47 PM
No track is going to blow up if the album keeps getting pushed back. Set a release date, release a single and live with it.
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Post by: LodiDodi on June 07, 2009, 02:36:26 PM
After each listen I like it more and more.  Really under-appreciated track at this stage. The vibe to me is reminiscent of "Patiently Waiting".

I swear, just about every response on this forum to new songs from established artists (Eminem, Dre, 50, Quik + Kurupt, etc.) is wack/average/ok except for one background instrument.........it makes me laugh that some of you expect nothing short of these artists recreating their best albums.  All these guys made their best material when they were hungry, getting the hustle on, or had something to prove.  They do it for themselves.

Keep looking at songs with a microscope and calling it wack if it's not perfect.  Honestly, everytime I see a bad review of a song it makes me think it's probably better than believed to be, because I know the criticizers have one standard:  perfection.  Keep dreamin for perfection
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Post by: al3000 on June 07, 2009, 07:44:55 PM
I'm surprised people ain't feeling the track....I think the songs dope....I hope he comes wit more shit like this....."Niggas hatin but they know they really like this"......lol....50 clownin'
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Post by: JohnnyL on June 07, 2009, 07:51:40 PM
 Personally, I thought the song was average.  I thought the beat was nice, but the lyrics seemed just kind of average.  There was nothing really bad about the song, imo.  But there just wasn't really much that stood out about it either.  I probably still prefer it to anything I heard on "Curtis."  As for the album, this is just the first song, so I'll try to reserve judgement until I hear more.  The production on this was nice, and if that's an indicator of what the rest of the album's production sounds like, then there might still be hope for this.
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Post by: Action! on June 07, 2009, 08:03:26 PM
The drums bang through the speaker but 50 was average.  His vocals were on point but he isn't saying much.  Plus, the beat was missing that it factor.  It's missing something hypnotic, something catchy.

And, I'm a 50 fan as in I enjoyed Curtis.

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Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on June 07, 2009, 08:33:56 PM
this new "OK" joint with 50 sounds like every other track he's made, it's boring and predictable



it's like Dre has made 100 beats just for 50 because they all have that same vibe to it, and it's a vibe people are sick of
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Post by: JohnnyL on June 07, 2009, 09:33:22 PM
The drums bang through the speaker but 50 was average.  His vocals were on point but he isn't saying much.  Plus, the beat was missing that it factor.  It's missing something hypnotic, something catchy.

And, I'm a 50 fan as in I enjoyed Curtis.



 I'm a 50 fan too, but I couldn't really get into "Curtis."  Everybody's taste is different though.  I know a lot of people didn't think much of "The Massacre," but I thought about half the songs on it were really tight.  I'm still holding out hope that 50 delivers a solid album with this one.  I think it's way too early to tell, of course, with just the one song.  But I'm sure I'll check it out when it drops.
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Post by: Action! on June 07, 2009, 10:14:06 PM
The drums bang through the speaker but 50 was average.  His vocals were on point but he isn't saying much.  Plus, the beat was missing that it factor.  It's missing something hypnotic, something catchy.

And, I'm a 50 fan as in I enjoyed Curtis.



I'm a 50 fan too, but I couldn't really get into "Curtis."  Everybody's taste is different though.  I know a lot of people didn't think much of "The Massacre," but I thought about half the songs on it were really tight.  I'm still holding out hope that 50 delivers a solid album with this one.  I think it's way too early to tell, of course, with just the one song.  But I'm sure I'll check it out when it drops.

The Massacre is a dope album.  There were about 3 wack tracks.  Curtis isn't as bad as everyone acts.   For me, I'll enjoy the album if it's like the 3 tracks we've heard but I won't bump it much.
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Post by: Dre-Day on June 07, 2009, 11:37:02 PM
After each listen I like it more and more.  Really under-appreciated track at this stage. The vibe to me is reminiscent of "Patiently Waiting".

I swear, just about every response on this forum to new songs from established artists (Eminem, Dre, 50, Quik + Kurupt, etc.) is wack/average/ok except for one background instrument.........it makes me laugh that some of you expect nothing short of these artists recreating their best albums.  All these guys made their best material when they were hungry, getting the hustle on, or had something to prove.  They do it for themselves.

Keep looking at songs with a microscope and calling it wack if it's not perfect.  Honestly, everytime I see a bad review of a song it makes me think it's probably better than believed to be, because I know the criticizers have one standard:  perfection.  Keep dreamin for perfection

don't put so many people in a box  :nawty:

i just didn't like it: this has nothing to do with crazy expectations ::)
Title: Re: "Okay , You're Right " by 50 Cent = Yet another failure ..
Post by: Big B on June 08, 2009, 05:51:19 AM
haha, track is okay. nothing special..if he's a pop artist sell out, then what's snoop?

way past the retirement age?
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Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on June 08, 2009, 07:43:23 PM
Personally, I thought the song was average.  I thought the beat was nice, but the lyrics seemed just kind of average.  There was nothing really bad about the song, imo.  But there just wasn't really much that stood out about it either.  I probably still prefer it to anything I heard on "Curtis."  As for the album, this is just the first song, so I'll try to reserve judgement until I hear more.  The production on this was nice, and if that's an indicator of what the rest of the album's production sounds like, then there might still be hope for this.

The drums bang through the speaker but 50 was average.  His vocals were on point but he isn't saying much.  Plus, the beat was missing that it factor.  It's missing something hypnotic, something catchy.

And, I'm a 50 fan as in I enjoyed Curtis.



Lyrics are average, he isn't saying much. How is that any different from the rest of his material?
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Post by: Action! on June 08, 2009, 08:08:29 PM
50's always had decent lyrics back by a passionate delivery.  That is, he ain't the most lyrical but it's made up by how he delivers a line.  For example,
Quote
This is the hustler's ambition. close your eye and listen
or
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Respect come from admiration or fear.  You can admire me or you can catch one in your wig.
  Both tracks capture the essence of what he's spitting about. 

Basically, I just don't like the track as much as his other material.  He's on his "i'm rich as fuck and don't don't fucking care flow" which matches with what he spits about.  So, by all regards, I think he succeeded at making a song.  It's not a bad song, it's just not what I like.
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Post by: Hatesrats™ on June 08, 2009, 08:44:16 PM
 8) was a cool joint, But I didn't find myself playing it too much after the first couple spins.
As much as I like Dr. Dre, I'd like to see 50's sound go grimey again.
(mess more w/the same producers that helped forge his mixtape dominance)
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Post by: LodiDodi on June 09, 2009, 03:20:08 PM
The drums bang through the speaker but 50 was average.  His vocals were on point but he isn't saying much.  Plus, the beat was missing that it factor.  It's missing something hypnotic, something catchy.

And, I'm a 50 fan as in I enjoyed Curtis.



 I'm a 50 fan too, but I couldn't really get into "Curtis."  Everybody's taste is different though.  I know a lot of people didn't think much of "The Massacre," but I thought about half the songs on it were really tight. 
Co-sign:

Ski Mask Way
Baltimore Love Thing
Position Of Power
Ryder Music
Get In My Car
God Gave Me Style
Outta Control + remix

these songs were way better than the singles (Disco Inferno, Candy Shop)
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Post by: Action! on June 09, 2009, 03:48:23 PM
Disco Inferno was a dope club joint but Candy Shop was sooooooooooooo bad.

Also, I don't think 50 is a horrible lyricists. He's no Crooked or Royce but he knows how to write songs. 
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Post by: Matty on June 09, 2009, 04:21:10 PM
all the singles that 50 dropped from the masscre (disco inferno, candy shop, just a lil' bit) were massive club hits when they came out. hate it or love it, those records did their thing and were excellently crafted from a production standpoint. as a dj, there was no way you could not play those records and the response to them was always huge.
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Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on June 09, 2009, 04:41:29 PM
all the singles that 50 dropped from the masscre (disco inferno, candy shop, just a lil' bit) were massive club hits when they came out. hate it or love it, those records did their thing and were excellently crafted from a production standpoint. as a dj, there was no way you could not play those records and the response to them was always huge.


the massacre had bangers on it whether people want to admit it or not, Curtis on the other hand was terrible
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Post by: KaiserSoze on June 09, 2009, 04:45:23 PM
Somebody Gonna Die Tonight is by far my favourite cut from the Massacre, followed by Ryder Music and Outta Control.
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Post by: Matty on June 09, 2009, 04:49:54 PM
the timbaland/danja joint with justin timberlake was a great single and probably the main reason that curtis actually sold a few records. 50 was a complete hypocrite for it, but the teeny boppers loved it and again a great club track. if he'd saved outta control rmx for curtis it might have been a different story.

i think the reason 50 did so well previously was by being pop but having incredible production to back it up. that's why tracks like 'in da club' (dre) and 'candy shop' (scott storch, dre) helped sell millions of records. curtis was completely lacking any dre tracks that would have made good singles. fire was far too pop sounding, even for dre.
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Post by: Action! on June 09, 2009, 05:41:08 PM
Yeah, I could agree his production wasn't up to notch on Curtis but I don't think Amusement Park would be good even it had an amazing beat. 

I really enjoyed Straight to the Bank.  I wish that track had better production.
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Post by: dubsmith_nz on June 09, 2009, 09:08:18 PM
all the singles that 50 dropped from the masscre (disco inferno, candy shop, just a lil' bit) were massive club hits when they came out. hate it or love it, those records did their thing and were excellently crafted from a production standpoint. as a dj, there was no way you could not play those records and the response to them was always huge.


the massacre had bangers on it whether people want to admit it or not, Curtis on the other hand was terrible

Yeah I never understood the hate that album got, even Yayo murdered his verse on "My Toy Soldier"
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Post by: dubsmith_nz on June 09, 2009, 09:09:24 PM
Yeah, I could agree his production wasn't up to notch on Curtis but I don't think Amusement Park would be good even it had an amazing beat. 

I really enjoyed Straight to the Bank.  I wish that track had better production.

Yup that Amusement Park was straight trash, completely uninspired and boring, I've never met anyone who liked that shit. Straight to the bank was dope tho
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Post by: Booz on June 09, 2009, 10:37:09 PM
all the singles that 50 dropped from the masscre (disco inferno, candy shop, just a lil' bit) were massive club hits when they came out. hate it or love it, those records did their thing and were excellently crafted from a production standpoint. as a dj, there was no way you could not play those records and the response to them was always huge.


the massacre had bangers on it whether people want to admit it or not, Curtis on the other hand was terrible

Yeah I never understood the hate that album got, even Yayo murdered his verse on "My Toy Soldier"
Curtis was decent but c'mon, that is wayyyyy too much.  :laugh:
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Post by: Dre-Day on June 10, 2009, 12:33:30 AM
the timbaland/danja joint with justin timberlake was a great single and probably the main reason that curtis actually sold a few records. 50 was a complete hypocrite for it, but the teeny boppers loved it and again a great club track. if he'd saved outta control rmx for curtis it might have been a different story.

i think the reason 50 did so well previously was by being pop but having incredible production to back it up. that's why tracks like 'in da club' (dre) and 'candy shop' (scott storch, dre) helped sell millions of records. curtis was completely lacking any dre tracks that would have made good singles. fire was far too pop sounding, even for dre.
how was he a complete hypocrite?
50 cent is a pop artist

all the singles that 50 dropped from the masscre (disco inferno, candy shop, just a lil' bit) were massive club hits when they came out. hate it or love it, those records did their thing and were excellently crafted from a production standpoint. as a dj, there was no way you could not play those records and the response to them was always huge.


the massacre had bangers on it whether people want to admit it or not, Curtis on the other hand was terrible

Yeah I never understood the hate that album got, even Yayo murdered his verse on "My Toy Soldier"

why do people keep using that term :laugh:
i understand why it was used, but still
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Post by: A1 on June 10, 2009, 12:59:42 AM
I think 1 track that gets over looked on massacare is god gave me style. Its a really cool track imo. Also curtis had SOME decent tracks i get money, curtis 187, my gun go off....but the best thing about that album was the intro lol
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Post by: Matty on June 10, 2009, 01:28:16 AM
he's a hypocrite because he's always tried to maintain a hard image. he's on record saying he wouldn't work with the neptunes because they're 'too pop' and he's gangsta. then he did a record with timbaland and justin timberlake. what he is and what he thinks he is are two different things.

if dre was so worried about his 'legacy' he'd be distancing himself from 50 nowadays. still, i don't really have any idea what to expect from his new album.
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Post by: dubsmith_nz on June 10, 2009, 01:53:04 AM
all the singles that 50 dropped from the masscre (disco inferno, candy shop, just a lil' bit) were massive club hits when they came out. hate it or love it, those records did their thing and were excellently crafted from a production standpoint. as a dj, there was no way you could not play those records and the response to them was always huge.


the massacre had bangers on it whether people want to admit it or not, Curtis on the other hand was terrible

Yeah I never understood the hate that album got, even Yayo murdered his verse on "My Toy Soldier"
Curtis was decent but c'mon, that is wayyyyy too much.  :laugh:

Nah bro, go listen to Yayo on "My Toy Soldier" from the Massacre, https://www.youtube.com/v/MR7dVjCzuis&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR7dVjCzuis&feature=related) 3rd verse... Something bout I always thought was ill haha...
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Post by: A1 on June 10, 2009, 02:47:39 AM
he's a hypocrite because he's always tried to maintain a hard image. ..... what he is and what he thinks he is are two different things.


Youve just descibed pretty much 85% of the rappers in hip hop including the man in youre aviator
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Post by: KaiserSoze on June 10, 2009, 03:17:41 AM
if dre was so worried about his 'legacy' he'd be distancing himself from 50 nowadays.

Are you joking? 50 Cent is the one making by far the most money in rap now, not Jay, not  Diddy or anyone else who you consider close to his grossing power. 50 is a genius, he has a great business mind and he knows exactly what the mainstream wants and delivers it, whether me and you like it or not.
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Post by: Matty on June 10, 2009, 01:44:08 PM
i'm not joking. if dre cared about money he'd be selling beats to any old fool. its about good music and lets face it, 50 is making some pretty shitty music as of late.
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Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on June 10, 2009, 01:52:03 PM
i'm not joking. if dre cared about money he'd be selling beats to any old fool. its about good music and lets face it, 50 is making some pretty shitty music as of late.

Shitty or not, he's still selling records and getting spins. 50 and Em may not be the powerhouses they once were, but they're still powerhouses compared to everyone else.
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Post by: Matty on June 10, 2009, 02:14:05 PM
no doubt, but again thats not the point. im saying that long term, dre's legacy will be tarnished (and this is supposedly his big concern) by fucking with 50 when he was waaaay past his prime and showed no sign of regaining any previous form. it's ironic that he's too paranoid to get behind new acts like stat or bishop lamont for the same reason, but continues to support 50 cent.

so the quality of this 50 lp will be interesting.
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Post by: dubsmith_nz on June 10, 2009, 03:12:44 PM
no doubt, but again thats not the point. im saying that long term, dre's legacy will be tarnished (and this is supposedly his big concern) by fucking with 50 when he was waaaay past his prime and showed no sign of regaining any previous form. it's ironic that he's too paranoid to get behind new acts like stat or bishop lamont for the same reason, but continues to support 50 cent.

so the quality of this 50 lp will be interesting.

Or after his lesser involvement in Massacre and Curtis, he may be trying to prove that he can be the cat who brings 50 back! That I'd like to see :D
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Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on June 10, 2009, 03:31:54 PM
no doubt, but again thats not the point. im saying that long term, dre's legacy will be tarnished (and this is supposedly his big concern) by fucking with 50 when he was waaaay past his prime and showed no sign of regaining any previous form. it's ironic that he's too paranoid to get behind new acts like stat or bishop lamont for the same reason, but continues to support 50 cent.

so the quality of this 50 lp will be interesting.

Or after his lesser involvement in Massacre and Curtis, he may be trying to prove that he can be the cat who brings 50 back! That I'd like to see :D

I think its actually Dre's beats thats hurting 50. He's too commercial and people aren't feeling him anymore. Now if he did an album produced by Primo it would sound like a new 50, even if he's spitting about the same shit.
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Post by: Matty on June 10, 2009, 03:46:29 PM
i would hope dre can bring 50's music back to some kind of credibility and universal appeal again. but i do agree he needs to diversify his sound - working with premo would be great, or just if dre/khalil give him some more street sounds than we've come to expect from the aftermath camp.

'i get money' was big for that reason - a raw, old school sounding beat. its about all 50 can sound decent over these days.
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Post by: Action! on June 10, 2009, 07:09:57 PM
I'm not convinced 50 lost his flare to make quality music.   For one, G-Unit's TOS was a dope album but the public wasn't looking to get down with it.

If anything 50 has oversaturate himself & G-Unit in the market.  Being such a smart business man I'm kind of shocked he doesn't see that.   He could have avoided over saturation by producing different music ala Kanye West did with 808s.  I'm not saying 50 should release an auto-tune record but rather he needs to reinvent himself in the public eye.  Give the public another reason to be back on his jock.  Kanye showed the public another dimension of his character and people bought it because it was genuine.   Or, he could have waited a year or two to release Curtis. Collecting a bunch of dope records for the album in that time period. 

I do agree he was being a hyprocite for criticizing other artist like Kanye for working with Timbaland and then went and worked with him. 
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 10, 2009, 07:18:55 PM
yeah that justin shit he did wit timbo was wack
but damn get up is dope
and i get it in is better than this
ok your right is borin like i get money became borin after a while
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Post by: Invincible on June 10, 2009, 08:31:39 PM
I'm not convinced 50 lost his flare to make quality music.   For one, G-Unit's TOS was a dope album but the public wasn't looking to get down with it.

If anything 50 has oversaturate himself & G-Unit in the market.  Being such a smart business man I'm kind of shocked he doesn't see that.   He could have avoided over saturation by producing different music ala Kanye West did with 808s.  I'm not saying 50 should release an auto-tune record but rather he needs to reinvent himself in the public eye.  Give the public another reason to be back on his jock.  Kanye showed the public another dimension of his character and people bought it because it was genuine.   Or, he could have waited a year or two to release Curtis. Collecting a bunch of dope records for the album in that time period. 

I do agree he was being a hyprocite for criticizing other artist like Kanye for working with Timbaland and then went and worked with him. 

What! TOS was an awful album. Had such cheap production on it.
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Post by: Action! on June 10, 2009, 08:41:35 PM
I'm not convinced 50 lost his flare to make quality music.   For one, G-Unit's TOS was a dope album but the public wasn't looking to get down with it.

If anything 50 has oversaturate himself & G-Unit in the market.  Being such a smart business man I'm kind of shocked he doesn't see that.   He could have avoided over saturation by producing different music ala Kanye West did with 808s.  I'm not saying 50 should release an auto-tune record but rather he needs to reinvent himself in the public eye.  Give the public another reason to be back on his jock.  Kanye showed the public another dimension of his character and people bought it because it was genuine.   Or, he could have waited a year or two to release Curtis. Collecting a bunch of dope records for the album in that time period. 

I do agree he was being a hyprocite for criticizing other artist like Kanye for working with Timbaland and then went and worked with him. 

What! TOS was an awful album. Had such cheap production on it.

To me, it worked well for what they went for.   It's part of the charm.  It's dirty sounding.   I mean, Yayo really doesn't deserve to spit over a 500 grand beat so I understand the cheaper production.  Causalities of War, TOS, Kitty Kat, Let It Go, Ready or Not are all dope.  It would've been a doper duo album with just 50 and Banks but since the group has Yayo as well I dealt with it.
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Post by: jeanmiche777 on June 10, 2009, 08:43:53 PM
Yayo, in my book, isn't even a rapper. He's just some guy that stayed loyal to 50 cent.
Title: Re: "Okay , You're Right " by 50 Cent = Yet another failure ..
Post by: Action! on June 10, 2009, 08:47:13 PM
Yayo, in my book, isn't even a rapper. He's just some guy that stayed loyal to 50 cent.

He's more like a hype man.  Funny enough he drops better bars than some rappers,

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I'm an icon, heart made of steel, bars made of iron
> Juice's recent tracks

At least he's got some adjective usage going on and can make me laugh.
Title: Re: "Okay , You're Right " by 50 Cent = Yet another failure ..
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 10, 2009, 08:47:43 PM
haha damn yayo is one of the most hated rappers for real
but yeah hes jus a extra
wonder if he writes his on lyrics?
hope banks does, cuz hes the best rapper
Title: Re: "Okay , You're Right " by 50 Cent = Yet another failure ..
Post by: D-Nice on June 10, 2009, 08:49:22 PM
I'm not convinced 50 lost his flare to make quality music.   For one, G-Unit's TOS was a dope album but the public wasn't looking to get down with it.

If anything 50 has oversaturate himself & G-Unit in the market.  Being such a smart business man I'm kind of shocked he doesn't see that.   He could have avoided over saturation by producing different music ala Kanye West did with 808s.  I'm not saying 50 should release an auto-tune record but rather he needs to reinvent himself in the public eye.  Give the public another reason to be back on his jock.  Kanye showed the public another dimension of his character and people bought it because it was genuine.   Or, he could have waited a year or two to release Curtis. Collecting a bunch of dope records for the album in that time period. 

I do agree he was being a hyprocite for criticizing other artist like Kanye for working with Timbaland and then went and worked with him. 

What! TOS was an awful album. Had such cheap production on it.

To me, it worked well for what they went for.   It's part of the charm.  It's dirty sounding.   I mean, Yayo really doesn't deserve to spit over a 500 grand beat so I understand the cheaper production.  Causalities of War, TOS, Kitty Kat, Let It Go, Ready or Not are all dope.  It would've been a doper duo album with just 50 and Banks but since the group has Yayo as well I dealt with it.

I think that album almost came off like a throwaway album. Something to put out to fullfill the contract with Interscope. Basically the only promo burn it got was when Rocci on 106 was talking shit about the Curtis album and they ended up playing Rider Pt 2 4 or 5 times on there and did a Making Of show about it to save face.
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 10, 2009, 08:52:58 PM
yeah that album was and is garbage IMO
lol @ 50 doin the autotune shit on rider part 2
and buck bein on what 6 traxx
album was put together crazy for real, BEG FOR MERCY IS......NOT EVEN GON FINISH THE SENTENCE
Title: Re: "Okay , You're Right " by 50 Cent = Yet another failure ..
Post by: Action! on June 10, 2009, 08:55:21 PM
I'm not convinced 50 lost his flare to make quality music.   For one, G-Unit's TOS was a dope album but the public wasn't looking to get down with it.

If anything 50 has oversaturate himself & G-Unit in the market.  Being such a smart business man I'm kind of shocked he doesn't see that.   He could have avoided over saturation by producing different music ala Kanye West did with 808s.  I'm not saying 50 should release an auto-tune record but rather he needs to reinvent himself in the public eye.  Give the public another reason to be back on his jock.  Kanye showed the public another dimension of his character and people bought it because it was genuine.   Or, he could have waited a year or two to release Curtis. Collecting a bunch of dope records for the album in that time period. 

I do agree he was being a hyprocite for criticizing other artist like Kanye for working with Timbaland and then went and worked with him. 

What! TOS was an awful album. Had such cheap production on it.

To me, it worked well for what they went for.   It's part of the charm.  It's dirty sounding.   I mean, Yayo really doesn't deserve to spit over a 500 grand beat so I understand the cheaper production.  Causalities of War, TOS, Kitty Kat, Let It Go, Ready or Not are all dope.  It would've been a doper duo album with just 50 and Banks but since the group has Yayo as well I dealt with it.

I think that album almost came off like a throwaway album. Something to put out to fullfill the contract with Interscope. Basically the only promo burn it got was when Rocci on 106 was talking shit about the Curtis album and they ended up playing Rider Pt 2 4 or 5 times on there and did a Making Of show about it to save face.

Yeah, I heard they had a really small budget to work with.  Less then 250 grand.  

It sounds just like the 2 mixtapes right before it got released - Elephant in the Sand and Return of the Body Snatchers.  From what I understand, It was all the same recording session.  Sure does sound like it.   The production was all kind of mixtape cheap-esque.  It is what it is.  I didn't buy it so I dug it.

Though, G-Unit tracks like Southside and We On Some Shit are classic.  That's the sound I love from 50 and the Unit.   You hear both these tracks?  I'll up'em for anyone that ain't.
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Post by: dubsmith_nz on June 10, 2009, 09:00:08 PM
Southside was fucking ill! T.O.S. was an average album, but Banks murdered some tracks on there, and there were a few bangers. I just wish it could've come slightly close to "Beg For Mercy" though
Title: Re: "Okay , You're Right " by 50 Cent = Yet another failure ..
Post by: D-Nice on June 10, 2009, 09:00:48 PM
I'm not convinced 50 lost his flare to make quality music.   For one, G-Unit's TOS was a dope album but the public wasn't looking to get down with it.

If anything 50 has oversaturate himself & G-Unit in the market.  Being such a smart business man I'm kind of shocked he doesn't see that.   He could have avoided over saturation by producing different music ala Kanye West did with 808s.  I'm not saying 50 should release an auto-tune record but rather he needs to reinvent himself in the public eye.  Give the public another reason to be back on his jock.  Kanye showed the public another dimension of his character and people bought it because it was genuine.   Or, he could have waited a year or two to release Curtis. Collecting a bunch of dope records for the album in that time period. 

I do agree he was being a hyprocite for criticizing other artist like Kanye for working with Timbaland and then went and worked with him. 

What! TOS was an awful album. Had such cheap production on it.

To me, it worked well for what they went for.   It's part of the charm.  It's dirty sounding.   I mean, Yayo really doesn't deserve to spit over a 500 grand beat so I understand the cheaper production.  Causalities of War, TOS, Kitty Kat, Let It Go, Ready or Not are all dope.  It would've been a doper duo album with just 50 and Banks but since the group has Yayo as well I dealt with it.

I think that album almost came off like a throwaway album. Something to put out to fullfill the contract with Interscope. Basically the only promo burn it got was when Rocci on 106 was talking shit about the Curtis album and they ended up playing Rider Pt 2 4 or 5 times on there and did a Making Of show about it to save face.

Yeah, I heard they had a really small budget to work with.  Less then 250 grand.  

It sounds just like the 2 mixtapes right before it got released - Elephant in the Sand and Return of the Body Snatchers.  From what I understand, It was all the same recording session.  Sure does sound like it.   The production was all kind of mixtape cheap-esque.  It is what it is.  I didn't buy it so I dug it.

Though, G-Unit tracks like Southside and We On Some Shit are classic.  That's the sound I love from 50 and the Unit.   You hear both these tracks?  I'll up'em for anyone that ain't.

Yeah it had a couple bangers on there. Ready Or Not is fire too. Banks was the highlight of the whole album.
Title: Re: "Okay , You're Right " by 50 Cent = Yet another failure ..
Post by: A1 on June 11, 2009, 01:12:54 AM
You so tough is one of my fav g unit tracks. In my opinion even yayo kills it lol...."for that china white i lay a niggas mamma down/we can shoot it out like frank wright did in china town"
Title: Re: "Okay , You're Right " by 50 Cent = Yet another failure ..
Post by: Dre-Day on June 11, 2009, 01:47:51 AM
I'm not convinced 50 lost his flare to make quality music.   For one, G-Unit's TOS was a dope album but the public wasn't looking to get down with it.

If anything 50 has oversaturate himself & G-Unit in the market.  Being such a smart business man I'm kind of shocked he doesn't see that.   He could have avoided over saturation by producing different music ala Kanye West did with 808s.  I'm not saying 50 should release an auto-tune record but rather he needs to reinvent himself in the public eye.  Give the public another reason to be back on his jock.  Kanye showed the public another dimension of his character and people bought it because it was genuine.   Or, he could have waited a year or two to release Curtis. Collecting a bunch of dope records for the album in that time period. 

I do agree he was being a hyprocite for criticizing other artist like Kanye for working with Timbaland and then went and worked with him. 
nah man, it sucks :P

he's a hypocrite because he's always tried to maintain a hard image. he's on record saying he wouldn't work with the neptunes because they're 'too pop' and he's gangsta. then he did a record with timbaland and justin timberlake. what he is and what he thinks he is are two different things.

if dre was so worried about his 'legacy' he'd be distancing himself from 50 nowadays. still, i don't really have any idea what to expect from his new album.
true.
he even acted like he didn't need anyone to sell :laugh:


no doubt, but again thats not the point. im saying that long term, dre's legacy will be tarnished (and this is supposedly his big concern) by fucking with 50 when he was waaaay past his prime and showed no sign of regaining any previous form. it's ironic that he's too paranoid to get behind new acts like stat or bishop lamont for the same reason, but continues to support 50 cent.

so the quality of this 50 lp will be interesting.
yeah, well you know, you can easily point out contradictions, when it comes to analysing irrational thoughts