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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Triple OG Rapsodie on June 09, 2009, 06:26:47 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygrw3U6gDLc
I'd say if it wasn't apparent from Universal Mind Control and him doing ads, its official now
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Jonas Brothers??? Common???? :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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I COPPED Be and Finding Forever, both incredible albums. His last album I heard bad things so I gave a DL and deleted that shit after one listen
I've lost a lot of respect for this nigga
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UMC was a dope release. Very good music for the summer. He kicked some nice old school flows on it.
But, this is lame. I guess the dollar was too good to pass up.
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I COPPED Be and Finding Forever, both incredible albums. His last album I heard bad things so I gave a DL and deleted that shit after one listen
I've lost a lot of respect for this nigga
you and i can finally agree on something +1
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i like that song with lily allen
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I've lost a lot of respect for this nigga
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I'm a fan of conscious hip-hop generally, and Common is always built up to be the #1 conscious rapper but I've never been able to get into any of his albums. He's had some songs I really loved like "The Light".. but I think Mos Def and Talib Kweli are way ahead of Common when it comes to conscious rap. I don't think Common is capable of putting together an album that could compete with the earlier albums from Talib and Mos.. or with Dead Prez debut, as far as conscious rap goes.
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I would rap over this beat, so I don't see the beef? Hip-Hop is universal, don't discriminate against any artists!
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I would rap over this beat, so I don't see the beef? Hip-Hop is universal, don't discriminate against any artists!
Doesn't matter what you think of the Jonas Brothers, they are pop. Common is doing a song with them to try to appeal to the mainstream audience. Not only that he is appearing on tv ads and coming up with his own clothing line. That might be okay for some rappers, but it goes against everything Common has stood for. This is the definition of a sellout. He's a hypocrite to have a song like I Used to Love H.E.R. and now be heading towards the pop tip.
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Resurrection was the only Common album I really liked top to bottom. The rest of them just had the odd banger here and there.
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I would rap over this beat, so I don't see the beef? Hip-Hop is universal, don't discriminate against any artists!
Doesn't matter what you think of the Jonas Brothers, they are pop. Common is doing a song with them to try to appeal to the mainstream audience. Not only that he is appearing on tv ads and coming up with his own clothing line. That might be okay for some rappers, but it goes against everything Common has stood for. This is the definition of a sellout. He's a hypocrite to have a song like I Used to Love H.E.R. and now be heading towards the pop tip.
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How do you know that? Think this, Common has NO IDEA who these guys are (I only found out about their level of popularity like 2 months ago, and still haven't see them anywhere but uTube), then these guys come @ Common to do a song.. Common checks the beat, and he's with it, so he lays a verse about whatever the song is about...
I don't see how that is selling out. If you can make a love song, (assuming that is what it's about), then you ain't got soul, and you shouldn't be rapping..
Concerning the clothing line, could be just a money venture.. And I'm sure all the "real artists" who could have clothing deals, would take it, and some actually do..
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I guess this was just Jonas Brothers' & Disney's way to signal that they don't hate black people. I don't see any other legit reason why this awkward collaboration went down. They should have got Chris Brown instead.
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I would rap over this beat, so I don't see the beef? Hip-Hop is universal, don't discriminate against any artists!
Doesn't matter what you think of the Jonas Brothers, they are pop. Common is doing a song with them to try to appeal to the mainstream audience. Not only that he is appearing on tv ads and coming up with his own clothing line. That might be okay for some rappers, but it goes against everything Common has stood for. This is the definition of a sellout. He's a hypocrite to have a song like I Used to Love H.E.R. and now be heading towards the pop tip.
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How do you know that? Think this, Common has NO IDEA who these guys are (I only found out about their level of popularity like 2 months ago, and still haven't see them anywhere but uTube), then these guys come @ Common to do a song.. Common checks the beat, and he's with it, so he lays a verse about whatever the song is about...
I don't see how that is selling out. If you can make a love song, (assuming that is what it's about), then you ain't got soul, and you shouldn't be rapping..
Concerning the clothing line, could be just a money venture.. And I'm sure all the "real artists" who could have clothing deals, would take it, and some actually do..
First off, everyone knows who the Jonas Brothers are, maybe you don't pay attention to the music industry but Common definitely does. Second, what does making a love song have to do with anything? Common has made love songs before, that isn't what we are talking about. Do you even listen to Common? I"m not coming with this stuff out of my ass, everything he's doing now is stuff he was preaching against during the 90s. If you don't believe me, just go back and listen to his music.
"Selling out" refers to the compromising of one's integrity, morality and principles in exchange for money, 'success' (however defined) or other personal gain
According to this definition, Common is the definition of a sellout. If you don' t know what Common's principles are (or were) then you shouldn't be arguing with me.
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plz Common is the biggest contradiction in hip hop. To come out dissing people about TV ads and making party joints and then to do the exact same thing when he'd found a little fame. Smh
But im not gonna lie, i copped Be and Finding Forever. :laugh:
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plz Common is the biggest contradiction in hip hop. To come out dissing people about TV ads and making party joints and then to do the exact same thing when he'd found a little fame. Smh
But im not gonna lie, i copped Be and Finding Forever. :laugh:
yeah showing up in gap commercials and shit was a little strange for a dude like him
I mean he can do whatever he wants as far as im concerned im not offended by it
Be and Finding Forever.... now thats the issue, classic shit.
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plz Common is the biggest contradiction in hip hop. To come out dissing people about TV ads and making party joints and then to do the exact same thing when he'd found a little fame. Smh
But im not gonna lie, i copped Be and Finding Forever. :laugh:
yeah showing up in gap commercials and shit was a little strange for a dude like him
I mean he can do whatever he wants as far as im concerned im not offended by it
Be and Finding Forever.... now thats the issue, classic shit.
im not knocking his hustle but i just found it a bit of a bitch move. Him appearing in Smokin Aces as well was just another thing to list of the way hes contradicted himself. Still a dope artist nevertheless but am I the only one that dont really feel his pre-kanye albums that much? I love songs like The Light and 6th Sense but alot of it i just cant vibe with. Maybe its my inability to get into J Dillas beats.
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I would rap over this beat, so I don't see the beef? Hip-Hop is universal, don't discriminate against any artists!
you jonas brother loving fag
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The last album was a complete disgrace
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listen to the intro of "Be", then listen to his album
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UMC was a dope release. Very good music for the summer. He kicked some nice old school flows on it.
But, this is lame. I guess the dollar was too good to pass up.
would you have passed it?
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I don't agree with the sentiments that UMC was a disgrace or disrespectful to his past material. If an artists expands their style, he generally get called a sellout which is unfair.
First, he addresses his position on The People,
Nobody believe, until I believe me
Now I'm on the rise doing business with my guys
Visions realize, music affected lives
A gift from the skies, to be recognize
I'm keeping my eyes on the people, that's the prize
From, What A Word,
[quote And the story goes on and on, it goes on and on and on
They say, "Hey boy, you rap real good but ain't making no hit songs"
So he'd tell himself, yo, yo, yo self you gotta do it the way you do
And make this music from your soul and make it fresh and new
What do you see when look at me and I'm just standing there?
Shit, that make the world all work, that's what in my blood
And I won't stop until I drop 'cause my life's just burning out
So walk, keep climbing, won't look down until I reach the top[/quote]
Finally his verse on CuDi's Make Her Say (I Poke Her Face),
A stripper from the south looking for a payday
Said "Bitch! You should do it for the love like Ray Jay!"
"But they say you be on that conscious tip"
Get your hair right and get up on this conscious dick
I embody everything from the Gali to the party
Its the way I was raised on the South Side safari, so
Immortal Technique said "What? You don't think revolutionaries don't like to fuck too?"
I don't see the big deal. I enjoyed the approach he took with UMC. So, if does appear as a contradiction I really don't care.
Do I contradict myself?
Very well, then I contradict myself,
I am large, I contain multitudes.
- Walt Whitman
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UMC was a dope release. Very good music for the summer. He kicked some nice old school flows on it.
But, this is lame. I guess the dollar was too good to pass up.
would you have passed it?
No! I don't care that he's on some track. I think the track is lame, not him jumping on it. By connection of it being a poor track I think he's lame for jumping on it but it doesn't really change my opinion on Common's rap career (past to present) which I respect immensely
I also think he's a horrible actor. Jeeze he was horrible in Terminator Salvation.
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UMC was a dope release. Very good music for the summer. He kicked some nice old school flows on it.
But, this is lame. I guess the dollar was too good to pass up.
would you have passed it?
No! I don't care that he's on some track. I think the track is lame, not him jumping on it. By connection of it being a poor track I think he's lame for jumping on it but it doesn't really change my opinion on Common's rap career (past to present) which I respect immensely
I also think he's a horrible actor. Jeeze he was horrible in Terminator Salvation.
no, would you have passed on the money if you were common.
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UMC was a dope release. Very good music for the summer. He kicked some nice old school flows on it.
But, this is lame. I guess the dollar was too good to pass up.
would you have passed it?
No! I don't care that he's on some track. I think the track is lame, not him jumping on it. By connection of it being a poor track I think he's lame for jumping on it but it doesn't really change my opinion on Common's rap career (past to present) which I respect immensely
I also think he's a horrible actor. Jeeze he was horrible in Terminator Salvation.
no, would you have passed on the money if you were common.
If I were Common I wouldn't spend the first part of my career preaching about not going pop and then later switch it up and start doing the things I was against.
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UMC was a dope release. Very good music for the summer. He kicked some nice old school flows on it.
But, this is lame. I guess the dollar was too good to pass up.
would you have passed it?
No! I don't care that he's on some track. I think the track is lame, not him jumping on it. By connection of it being a poor track I think he's lame for jumping on it but it doesn't really change my opinion on Common's rap career (past to present) which I respect immensely
I also think he's a horrible actor. Jeeze he was horrible in Terminator Salvation.
no, would you have passed on the money if you were common.
If I were Common I wouldn't spend the first part of my career preaching about not going pop and then later switch it up and start doing the things I was against.
do you think he can sleep at night?
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UMC was a dope release. Very good music for the summer. He kicked some nice old school flows on it.
But, this is lame. I guess the dollar was too good to pass up.
would you have passed it?
No! I don't care that he's on some track. I think the track is lame, not him jumping on it. By connection of it being a poor track I think he's lame for jumping on it but it doesn't really change my opinion on Common's rap career (past to present) which I respect immensely
I also think he's a horrible actor. Jeeze he was horrible in Terminator Salvation.
no, would you have passed on the money if you were common.
Let me get this straight, you're asking me if I was in Common's shoes would I have passed on the money for laying some vocals for a track? And, I said, "No!" as in "If I were Common I would not have passed up the opportunity of getting paid some change to lay some guest vocals over some pop white boys." He gets paid and he can possibly build his fan base. Good moves!
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UMC was a dope release. Very good music for the summer. He kicked some nice old school flows on it.
But, this is lame. I guess the dollar was too good to pass up.
would you have passed it?
No! I don't care that he's on some track. I think the track is lame, not him jumping on it. By connection of it being a poor track I think he's lame for jumping on it but it doesn't really change my opinion on Common's rap career (past to present) which I respect immensely
I also think he's a horrible actor. Jeeze he was horrible in Terminator Salvation.
no, would you have passed on the money if you were common.
If I were Common I wouldn't spend the first part of my career preaching about not going pop and then later switch it up and start doing the things I was against.
do you think he can sleep at night?
I don't really care. What's for sure is that he's lost his right to comment on the state of hip hop and be taken seriously.
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You haven't even heard the verse yet.. You just posted an "intro".. This is the same shit I was talking about in the Charles Hamilton vs. Detroit thread...
Just because it is the "Jonas Brothers" you are automatically assuming it is going to be a "party track".
I tryed to find the joint but I couldn't, I found a clip of the Jonas brother talking about how they respected Common as a rapper and poet, and reached out to him.. They also said the song was about getting into a bad situation because you were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I don't know about you, but that sounds like a concept Common would come up, and the "intro" you posted certainly doesn't sound like a party track.....
I don't know about his out-of-music deals, but I'm still giving Common his Hip-Hop pass.. (Still waiting to hear the song, though)
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Raekwon done lost his pass that's for sure.
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Raekwon done lost his pass that's for sure.
Why do you say that?
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Raekwon done lost his pass that's for sure.
Why do you say that?
Well, he said Rick Ross was a legend or some bullshit comment like that. It was pretty disappointing how he dick rode the most popular artists right now.
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A black figure...in the middle of chaos and gunfire
So many raps about rims, surprised niggaz ain't become tires
On the street you turn cold and then go screech
I tell 'em "fuck 'em" like I do to police
The beast is runnin' rampant
I'm in between sheets tryin' to have sex that's tantric
For the ghetto, tryin' to make a get-up stand-up anthem
You spit hot garbage son of Sanford
What you rappin' for to get fame or get rich?
I slap a nigga like you, and tell him "Rick James bitch!"
With your Hollywood stories, on porches
We polly hood stories about who became rich
And whatever light they hit, we wanna hit the same switch
You didn't know where to aim it, you still remain bitch
I'm forever puttin' words together
Some'll sever mothers from daughters and fathers from sons
The name Com' has never been involved wit' run
Unless its DMC, or runnin' these broads to bein' free
I'm harder than the times, you hardly scary
Hopin' God's inside you, God is Halle Barry
They ask me where hip-hop is goin', it's Chicagoan
Poetry's in motion like a picture now showin'
It's the city, the city y'all, the city
Uh, the city y'all, come on
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Here is the track: http://usershare.net/8yx7lclwigav
As I predicted, the track is hardbody for something coming from the likes of the Jonas Brothers.. Also, Common's 2 short verses are good, and wrote just like he would on his own album...
Did he still sellout?? Opinions please.
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Here is the track: http://usershare.net/8yx7lclwigav
As I predicted, the track is hardbody for something coming from the likes of the Jonas Brothers.. Also, Common's 2 short verses are good, and wrote just like he would on his own album...
Did he still sellout?? Opinions please.
He's sold out long before that...