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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: LAXCENTRAL on June 13, 2009, 01:47:59 AM
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What you think? 8)
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Every country has a duty to protect its borders. The US is no exception (for both borders).
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More strict, how about should the U.S actually enforce and protect the border and the answer is absolutely yes. America is on the verge of a depression, it can't really support the existing population let alone yet millions more arriving.
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lol believe me, if the U.S. really wanted to make the border down here more strict...they could and would. If you grew up down here in S.D., chances are youve been through or to the border a ton of times. The San Diego/ Tijuana border crossing is the busiest in the world, and guaranteed not as strict as a lot of others. Part of the problem is that the idea of protecting the borders from Illegal Immigrants and drugs is all just a game of smoke and mirrors. Create the illusion that youre doing a great job, without actually doing shit. The other issue is that a lot of smugglers have Border Patrol agents working for them.
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It's really not that simple. We should talk about reparations to Mexico first and then we talk border security.
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my friends you are all right...
i see all the views... good stuff... 8)
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It's really not that simple. We should talk about reparations to Mexico first and then we talk border security.
lol, what a joke. Mexico is lucky we don't tax their ass even more for their continued failure to help with eliminating drug flow into America.
But yes. The reasons for a tighter border are so overwhelming, I don't want to get it in to it.
Cartel violence
Undocumented, untaxed population
Public sanitation
Public safety
Cost to local governments
Animals (disease ridden ones, crossing over, I mean real animals, not just the dirty rio grande crossers)
I could go on and really get in to the finer points, but I'm pretty sure most of us are in agreement on this issue.
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Yes, all borders need to be strict. If this is a topic turning into Immagration, I believe we restrict the borders, and legalize the ones here who already working and are trying to build a better life. The one's who are not, and poisoning our streets/killing us, fuck em send em back.As a mexican its a sorta a borderline issue for me.Mexico's shit do to all the corruption, if they feel they can make a better life, then come, but at least come legally.If they just want to come fuck it up, fuck up my people more, fuck em.
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It's really not that simple. We should talk about reparations to Mexico first and then we talk border security.
lol, what a joke. Mexico is lucky we don't tax their ass even more for their continued failure to help with eliminating drug flow into America.
But yes. The reasons for a tighter border are so overwhelming, I don't want to get it in to it.
Cartel violence
Undocumented, untaxed population
Public sanitation
Public safety
Cost to local governments
Animals (disease ridden ones, crossing over, I mean real animals, not just the dirty rio grande crossers)
I could go on and really get in to the finer points, but I'm pretty sure most of us are in agreement on this issue.
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Mexicans aren't gonna give a fuck about the babydick problems Americans are having because of them when they're making pennies while being run by a corrupt government. NO matter how you look at it, while Mexico is a shithole people are going to be migrating to make their lives better for themselves and their children. You might say "Oh that's not America's problem, they put themselves in this situation." It became their problem once they stole half their land for a measly $15 mil (worth 300 mil now) in the treaty of guadalupe hidalgo. Those are the reparations I'm talking about
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It became their problem once they stole half their land for a measly $15 mil (worth 300 mil now) in the treaty of guadalupe hidalgo. Those are the reparations I'm talking about
1. Inflation! The concept of "boo hoo, it wasn't enough money" the Mexican government sold the fucking terrirtory! Don't be mad at the US because the government in Mexico was a bunch of putzes.
2. Reparations - Mexico should pay reparations for all the Indians and Aztecs they stole land from and slaughtered. Matter of fact, they should pay American Indians reparations for all the land they stole.
And hell, why not France, England and Spain, they all killed natives and stole their lands and gold as well.
There is no major nation without a bloody past involving power struggles. That is the way of the world. To whine about money needed for ills commited past is a bunch of fucking bullshit.
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It became their problem once they stole half their land for a measly $15 mil (worth 300 mil now) in the treaty of guadalupe hidalgo. Those are the reparations I'm talking about
1. Inflation! The concept of "boo hoo, it wasn't enough money" the Mexican government sold the fucking terrirtory! Don't be mad at the US because the government in Mexico was a bunch of putzes.
2. Reparations - Mexico should pay reparations for all the Indians and Aztecs they stole land from and slaughtered. Matter of fact, they should pay American Indians reparations for all the land they stole.
And hell, why not France, England and Spain, they all killed natives and stole their lands and gold as well.
There is no major nation without a bloody past involving power struggles. That is the way of the world. To whine about money needed for ills commited past is a bunch of fucking bullshit.
What? LOL. For one Mexico didn't "sell" their land like it was an auction how dumb could you be, US troops basically conquered Mexico when they conquered DF. It was basically a deal that Mexico had to agree on, they had a gun to the dome while signing the treaty. It was stolen plain and simple with some money thrown at them for public relations. Do you really think CA alone is worth 300 mil?? LOL
On your second point I really have nothing to say on that. Mexicans are Spaniards and Indigenous natives what the fuck are you talking about. The Spanish basically molliwopped the entire Aztec empire.
The US has had control of Mexico since that treaty my brotha, just look at the Mexican laws and politicians in office kissing America's ass. I wouldn't be surprised if half of these politicians were on Americas payroll
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Look you basically said a whole bunch of nothing. Weasel terms. I understand this is probably close to your heart since you are mexican-American, but that's what makes you subjective. I'm not gonna get in to it since you won't want to accept the realities of things, I'll just let other people look at what I presented, and what you presented, and decide whether mexico should receive reparation payment. lol. bloodiest country in north America and they feel they were done wrong. nothing but a bunch of muts with no direct relation to any wrongdoing.
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Look you basically said a whole bunch of nothing. Weasel terms. I understand this is probably close to your heart since you are mexican-American, but that's what makes you subjective. I'm not gonna get in to it since you won't want to accept the realities of things, I'll just let other people look at what I presented, and what you presented, and decide whether mexico should receive reparation payment. lol. bloodiest country in north America and they feel they were done wrong. nothing but a bunch of muts with no direct relation to any wrongdoing.
No you're just thinking I'm ignorant because I'm Mexican American so you don't even acknowledge the points I'm trying to make. I haven't even tried to make an argument for Mexicans living out here(here's one though, ITS THEIR LAND) I was just responding to the misinformed information you posted. And you damn well know in a forum with 90% white males(some maybe most with resentment towards Mexicans) it's ignorant to let them "decide" who's wrong and who's right in this subject.
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No you're just thinking I'm ignorant because I'm Mexican American
Negative.
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No you're just thinking I'm ignorant because I'm Mexican American
Negative.
I understand this is probably close to your heart since you are mexican-American, but that's what makes you subjective
Being mexican-american makes me subjective.. lol really?
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Mexico is fucked up right now, no doubt. Its poor, and controlled more by drug cartels then by the government. Whats funny is the idea that Mexico is solely to blame for drugs and illegal immigration seeping into the US. This is a problem that could be solved relatively easy by the the US government, should they chose to. One thing ive learned about our government (other then them being unbelievably corrupt), is that they are very intelligent. When there seems to be such an obvious solution to a problem (like say, building a giant guarded wall between the US and Mexico), but it still never does and never will happen, there is a reason. Does anybody really doubt whether the US government would be able to keep illegal immigrants and drugs out if they really wanted to? lol. Lets say we build that big wall, how many border patrol agents are out of a job? We stop drugs from entering the country. How many police officers are out of a job? Etc...etc. We dont allow immigrants in. Imagine the effect THAT would have on so many industries from agriculture to contruction, etc, etc. People need to not look at Mexico as THE problem, and instead look at ourselves sometimes. Put it like this, drugs would be smuggled into this country at such a high rate...if there werent so many fuckin drug addicts here lol. Supply and demand. You can blame the dealer, or blame the junkie. America= Junkie.
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Yes, all borders need to be strict. If this is a topic turning into Immagration, I believe we restrict the borders, and legalize the ones here who already working and are trying to build a better life. The one's who are not, and poisoning our streets/killing us, fuck em send em back.As a mexican its a sorta a borderline issue for me.Mexico's shit do to all the corruption, if they feel they can make a better life, then come, but at least come legally.If they just want to come fuck it up, fuck up my people more, fuck em.
Man are u for real? I live in San Diego...as close as it gets to the border and illegal immigration. Are you tellin me when you walk down the street...youre worried some illegal immigrant is going to attack you? lol. I live down here, and Im checkin my rearview for Americans (Black, White, Hispanic, doesnt matter)...not illegal immigrants LOL.
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Yes, all borders need to be strict. If this is a topic turning into Immagration, I believe we restrict the borders, and legalize the ones here who already working and are trying to build a better life. The one's who are not, and poisoning our streets/killing us, fuck em send em back.As a mexican its a sorta a borderline issue for me.Mexico's shit do to all the corruption, if they feel they can make a better life, then come, but at least come legally.If they just want to come fuck it up, fuck up my people more, fuck em.
Man are u for real? I live in San Diego...as close as it gets to the border and illegal immigration. Are you tellin me when you walk down the street...youre worried some illegal immigrant is going to attack you? lol. I live down here, and Im checkin my rearview for Americans (Black, White, Hispanic, doesnt matter)...not illegal immigrants LOL.
lol, money.
Illegals are usually the victims of violent crimes, not perpetrators
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It's really not that simple. We should talk about reparations to Mexico first and then we talk border security.
lol, what a joke. Mexico is lucky we don't tax their ass even more for their continued failure to help with eliminating drug flow into America.
But yes. The reasons for a tighter border are so overwhelming, I don't want to get it in to it.
Cartel violence
Undocumented, untaxed population
Public sanitation
Public safety
Cost to local governments
Animals (disease ridden ones, crossing over, I mean real animals, not just the dirty rio grande crossers)
I could go on and really get in to the finer points, but I'm pretty sure most of us are in agreement on this issue.
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very true
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Yes, all borders need to be strict. If this is a topic turning into Immagration, I believe we restrict the borders, and legalize the ones here who already working and are trying to build a better life. The one's who are not, and poisoning our streets/killing us, fuck em send em back.As a mexican its a sorta a borderline issue for me.Mexico's shit do to all the corruption, if they feel they can make a better life, then come, but at least come legally.If they just want to come fuck it up, fuck up my people more, fuck em.
Man are u for real? I live in San Diego...as close as it gets to the border and illegal immigration. Are you tellin me when you walk down the street...youre worried some illegal immigrant is going to attack you? lol. I live down here, and Im checkin my rearview for Americans (Black, White, Hispanic, doesnt matter)...not illegal immigrants LOL.
Did you hear me you ignorant mother fucker??? I said to the Ones who come in here and push the drugs. Fuck em. To the ones who fucking want to come here for a better life, and give their kids a chance away from the violence of the homeland. Welcome to America.
You obviously didn't hear what the fuck I said, cause I didn't tell you that. That's a assumption only a moron would make. I said it clear, If illegals who are helping the drugs come in. Fuck em. If the illegal's want to help their families for a better life. Welcome. Though, Honestly it would be a lot better for them to come Legally cause then they can get Better help, and not be paid shit money, but like the Above poster said, yes they usually are the victims.
Personally if I had the power. I'd make a wall, with border agents watching it. The Illegal's who Have already come in here during the building for the wall. Can ALL become registered citizens.This would allow them better work opportunity, and benefits like Medical.This would also force the people who hired em for shit pay to pay them the average wage they would a citizen.Because the Borders are no longer open, anyone caught coming over illegally shall be sent back, with information on how to submit to becoming a Citizen either on a Work visa (since they mostly come for their families) or a Citizenship application. Anyone Caught coming with Drugs, or any other illegal acts shall not be released, but throw in a Federal prison, charged with Invasion.
This helps fight the cartels, because they can't afford to break them out or risk getting The American Government even more involved. That's if I had the power though.
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Yes, all borders need to be strict. If this is a topic turning into Immagration, I believe we restrict the borders, and legalize the ones here who already working and are trying to build a better life. The one's who are not, and poisoning our streets/killing us, fuck em send em back.As a mexican its a sorta a borderline issue for me.Mexico's shit do to all the corruption, if they feel they can make a better life, then come, but at least come legally.If they just want to come fuck it up, fuck up my people more, fuck em.
Man are u for real? I live in San Diego...as close as it gets to the border and illegal immigration. Are you tellin me when you walk down the street...youre worried some illegal immigrant is going to attack you? lol. I live down here, and Im checkin my rearview for Americans (Black, White, Hispanic, doesnt matter)...not illegal immigrants LOL.
good shit doggy...
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Yes, all borders need to be strict. If this is a topic turning into Immagration, I believe we restrict the borders, and legalize the ones here who already working and are trying to build a better life. The one's who are not, and poisoning our streets/killing us, fuck em send em back.As a mexican its a sorta a borderline issue for me.Mexico's shit do to all the corruption, if they feel they can make a better life, then come, but at least come legally.If they just want to come fuck it up, fuck up my people more, fuck em.
Man are u for real? I live in San Diego...as close as it gets to the border and illegal immigration. Are you tellin me when you walk down the street...youre worried some illegal immigrant is going to attack you? lol. I live down here, and Im checkin my rearview for Americans (Black, White, Hispanic, doesnt matter)...not illegal immigrants LOL.
Did you hear me you ignorant mother fucker??? I said to the Ones who come in here and push the drugs. Fuck em. To the ones who fucking want to come here for a better life, and give their kids a chance away from the violence of the homeland. Welcome to America.
You obviously didn't hear what the fuck I said, cause I didn't tell you that. That's a assumption only a moron would make. I said it clear, If illegals who are helping the drugs come in. Fuck em. If the illegal's want to help their families for a better life. Welcome. Though, Honestly it would be a lot better for them to come Legally cause then they can get Better help, and not be paid shit money, but like the Above poster said, yes they usually are the victims.
Personally if I had the power. I'd make a wall, with border agents watching it. The Illegal's who Have already come in here during the building for the wall. Can ALL become registered citizens.This would allow them better work opportunity, and benefits like Medical.This would also force the people who hired em for shit pay to pay them the average wage they would a citizen.Because the Borders are no longer open, anyone caught coming over illegally shall be sent back, with information on how to submit to becoming a Citizen either on a Work visa (since they mostly come for their families) or a Citizenship application. Anyone Caught coming with Drugs, or any other illegal acts shall not be released, but throw in a Federal prison, charged with Invasion.
This helps fight the cartels, because they can't afford to break them out or risk getting The American Government even more involved. That's if I had the power though.
lol@ you calling me names like I insulted u. Youre not helping your argument. I dont think we should have an open border where anybody who choses to can just come on through, cus in all honesty that would be insane. But us Americans (yourself included), are sometimes to quick to point the finger rather then look internally for solution. My earlier point was, that if the US government really wanted to build a wall...they could, and would. Theres obviously a reason why illegal immigration and drug smuggling is still such a problem, because we chose for it to be. As for the comment i made that caused your little temper tantrum, you referred to the ones "poisoning our streets/killing us". As I said before, Im as close as it gets to this shit. And believe me, its not illegal immigrants/ drug traffickers who are killing us. We're killing eachother. We are such a major purchaser of illegal drugs that the drug cartels need us as much as we need them. Simply saying, "lets keep em out!" doesnt change the fact that we have a ridiculous amount of drug addicts in this country. Making the drugs harder to get only increases the price of them, it doesnt solve the problem. If we became less dependant on illegal drugs as a country, the drug cartels lose, and drug smuggling decreases. Anyways, my point is we arent the victims here lol.
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eye say we put a lock on all european immigrants
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we get alot of African immigrants in Maine for some reason...they aren't very worrying
now, the Canadians that we get over here, they suck dick
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eye see we put a lock on all european immigrants
You see or you say?
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now, the Canadians that we get over here, they suck dick
literally?
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eye see we put a lock on all european immigrants
You see or you say?
yeah i was thinkin same shit 8)