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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: LAXCENTRAL on June 17, 2009, 08:37:00 AM
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WILL IT HAPPEN?
WHY?
WHY NOT?
HOW LONG OF A PROCESS??? 8)
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WILL IT HAPPEN?
WHY?
WHY NOT?
HOW LONG OF A PROCESS??? 8)
Yes, its got a good chance of happening.
Why: Because Arnold feels, legalizing and taxing Marijuana shall not only keep Low-drug offenders outta jail, and thus stop wasting prison money. The money from taxing it shall get us out of debt.Honestly its actually a viable operation, and if he can get it legalized, and if its successful, then the rest of America might Legalize it also. This is a huge step, and I'm hoping retards don't fuck it up. How Long??? He's trying to get it passed now, he's setting up his views/The pro's of this choice.
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Arnold's already said he's not gonna do it. Why? Because he's scared for his image. He is putting the option on the table however, because I believe he does want it legalized, he just wants to pass on the responsibility on to someone else.
Why should it not be legalized? Well to prohibitionists:
It is perceived as addictive.
It has "no accepted medical use."
It is associated with unfashionable lifestyles.
Advocates for marijuana legalization rarely present an appealing case.
I am not a prohibitionist.
The reasons for legalization are many, but I'm sure you already know them.
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It will eventually happen once these current fossils in office die out. Now if they find a fountain of youth, then you're fucked.
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who gives a shit, after a couple of years of being legalized its gonna be more expensive than it is now.
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who gives a shit, after a couple of years of being legalized its gonna be more expensive than it is now.
You're an idiot stop talking
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hey but honestly how can they raise the prices after its legalized...
black market prices are the highest...
when legalized then prices have to be pulled down...
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who gives a shit, after a couple of years of being legalized its gonna be more expensive than it is now.
You're an idiot stop talking
lol shut up u dumbfuck, countless of times uve exposed. you have no idea what your talking about. all you do is watch menace and boyz in the hood and u think you know it all.
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who gives a shit, after a couple of years of being legalized its gonna be more expensive than it is now.
You're an idiot stop talking
lol shut up u dumbfuck, countless of times uve exposed. you have no idea what your talking about. all you do is watch menace and boyz in the hood and u think you know it all.
please dont pistolwhip me mr chinaman
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who gives a shit, after a couple of years of being legalized its gonna be more expensive than it is now.
You're an idiot stop talking
lol shut up u dumbfuck, countless of times uve exposed. you have no idea what your talking about. all you do is watch menace and boyz in the hood and u think you know it all.
oh my god you the one to talk
you got all your shit off of fast and the furious
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If you guys wanna check up on the legalization of cannabis check out this website www.norml.com
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who gives a shit, after a couple of years of being legalized its gonna be more expensive than it is now.
You're an idiot stop talking
lol shut up u dumbfuck, countless of times uve exposed. you have no idea what your talking about. all you do is watch menace and boyz in the hood and u think you know it all.
oh my god you the one to talk
you got all your shit off of fast and the furious
yea right like some mexican crips would know any better. go play wit your friends lookin like valet parking mutha fuckas.
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yea right like some mexican crips would know any better. go play wit your friends lookin like valet parking mutha fuckas.
Every now and then, Looney pulls through in the clutch.
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Why should it not be legalized? Well to prohibitionists:
It is perceived as addictive.
It has "no accepted medical use."
It is associated with unfashionable lifestyles.
Advocates for marijuana legalization rarely present an appealing case.
Thats right. Coke is the "classy" drug.
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Why should it not be legalized? Well to prohibitionists:
It is perceived as addictive.
It has "no accepted medical use."
It is associated with unfashionable lifestyles.
Advocates for marijuana legalization rarely present an appealing case.
I am not a prohibitionist.
The reasons for legalization are many, but I'm sure you already know them.
Welll Hes sorta right on these parts. Just saw talks 3 more states are thinking about it, now some little bitch saying it caused her to go into depression and suicide, and they got some bull report that the long term effects cause that. The bitch was BI-Polar and Self-medicated. Weed isn't for Mental healing its mainly to with physical pain (Cancer, AIDS, Muscle spasms). Hope the bitch shuts her fucking mouth. Then again people here can already get our weed stamps and go to the dispensers so we cool.
anyways on down the list: Yes generally its seen as no Medical use, even though studies show it prohibits cancer and can help people with vary serious diseases to feel better, but because of the retarded ass smear campaign by the government and conservatives people think its as dangerous as meth.
This is what we need to fix, Currently people see it as "making" Gangsters, Hippies etc. (you get the idea) We need to try and break these "generics" and if we do, then we can progressively move the campaign ahead.
This is were EVERYONE fucks up lol when they push for it.Last time I heard a hearing on legalizing it, they had no studies prepared, no real persuasions to a legitimate point.
Weed will be legal one day (For everyone) we just gotta wait. year after year its being seen as a more applicable way to earn money for the state, and as applicable business venture. All things in good time. 8) 8) 8)
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i dono man...
but when shit gets legalized prices cannot go up...
its not impossible but it is 8)improbable...
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i don't want to try and act like the expert on the situation but i've done a lot of research on the topic and also had my final essay on legalization for my drugs, health and society class in college. to understand why it should be legalized, you need to know the history behind the current laws. i find it ironic that the first state to attempt to make marijuana illegal was California.
i wish i still had my word document with my essay. it had some good points as to why it should be legalized and i can't be fucked to retype that shit for dubcc.
to the people who think that weed prices would go up if it were legalized, i think you haven't considered the idea that major businesses could produce and distribute marijuana much like the cigarette industry does now. you'd probably see a pack of joints at walmart for the low. black market prices would also drop to try and compete with these companies taking their business. fuck 20 dollars a gram
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i don't want to try and act like the expert on the situation but i've done a lot of research on the topic and also had my final essay on legalization for my drugs, health and society class in college. to understand why it should be legalized, you need to know the history behind the current laws. i find it ironic that the first state to attempt to make marijuana illegal was California.
i wish i still had my word document with my essay. it had some good points as to why it should be legalized and i can't be fucked to retype that shit for dubcc.
to the people who think that weed prices would go up if it were legalized, i think you haven't considered the idea that major businesses could produce and distribute marijuana much like the cigarette industry does now. you'd probably see a pack of joints at walmart for the low. black market prices would also drop to try and compete with these companies taking their business. fuck 20 dollars a gram
thats some of the realest shit you have said bundy
+1
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i don't want to try and act like the expert on the situation but i've done a lot of research on the topic and also had my final essay on legalization for my drugs, health and society class in college. to understand why it should be legalized, you need to know the history behind the current laws. i find it ironic that the first state to attempt to make marijuana illegal was California.
i wish i still had my word document with my essay. it had some good points as to why it should be legalized and i can't be fucked to retype that shit for dubcc.
to the people who think that weed prices would go up if it were legalized, i think you haven't considered the idea that major businesses could produce and distribute marijuana much like the cigarette industry does now. you'd probably see a pack of joints at walmart for the low. black market prices would also drop to try and compete with these companies taking their business. fuck 20 dollars a gram
i think this makes a lotta sense G 8)
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i found my legalization paper in my notebook. would you guys like to read it?
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^ SURE 8)
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Don't mind the (1) and etc. Those are my sources that were noted.
Marijuana is a plant that is not allowed to be consumed, produced, or sold in the United States yet the number of past year marijuana users in 2007 was approximately 25.1 million (10.1% of the population aged 12 or older) and the number of past month marijuana users was 14.4 million (5.8%) (1). According to the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), marijuana is the most commonly used illicit drug in America. Why do people smoke weed? The calm and euphoric “high” could be an escape from a bad day at work or could mean life or death to an AIDs patient who can’t eat without it. Cannabis is nothing new. The plant has been reported to exist as far back as 7000 BC. This plant does more than just get you and your friends high. The earliest known woven fabric was apparently made of hemp (2), and over the centuries the plant was used for food, incense, cloth, rope, and much more. It’s also been documented that it’s been used for religious purposes. Why is this drug illegal? It’s not because it makes you into a raving lunatic like what some would like you to believe. To understand my opinion on why laws against marijuana should be reformed, we must know the history behind the legislation.
Marijuana made its introduction to the US in the early 1600’s but it did not reach public awareness as a recreational drug until the early 1900's. The first state marijuana law was passed by California because of resentment towards Mexican-Americans (which at that time, most Mexicans smoked marijuana) that were “stealing” their jobs by working for less pay. It was largely ignored due to broad and poor wording "preparations of hemp, or loco weed." “Loco-weed” meant not cannabis, but a common western herb that crippled and killed their livestock, and “Indian hemp” meant not a hallucinogenic drug from the East Indies but the yucca fibers that held together ancient ladders leading to cliff dwellings, and the other plant fibers twisted by living Paiutes into the cords used in their rabbit hunts (3). Other states quickly followed with marijuana prohibition laws, including Wyoming (1915), Texas (1919), Iowa (1923), Nevada (1923), Oregon (1923), Washington (1923), Arkansas (1923), and Nebraska (1927). Within a very short time, marijuana started being linked to violent behavior.
In 1930, the Federal Bureau of Narcotics was established and Harry J. Anslinger was appointed director. Once in office, Anslinger started to draw national attention to the problem he wanted to create by telling stories filled of racism and violence. My two favorite quotes from Anslinger are "You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother” and “Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men." He got support from Dupont chemical company and various pharmaceutical companies in the effort to outlaw cannabis. Dupont had patented nylon, and wanted hemp removed as competition. The pharmaceutical companies knew that people could grow their own and not have to purchase it from large companies. After two years of secret planning, Anslinger brought his plan to Congress; The Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 -- complete with a scrapbook full of sensational editorials, stories of ax murderers who had supposedly smoked marijuana, and racial slurs. The committee passed the legislation on without much discussion on the house floor; one senate member didn’t even know what marijuana was, and the bill got passed on a lie from a member of the committee that the American Medical Association supported this bill “100%”. On August 2, 1937, marijuana became illegal at the federal level. There have been many revisions to this legislation since then. The US government replaced this with the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 and put marijuana in Schedule I which is reserved for dangerous drugs that have no recognized medical use.
I believe that marijuana should be legal to use, produce and distribute. The current laws were put in place under false propaganda and the only reason it hasn’t been legalized is because the majority of America’s perception on marijuana is “it’s illegal for a reason”; blindly following what their government tells them. Everything they taught me in D.A.R.E. when I was in 4th grade regarding weed was false. I’m an active “researcher” of marijuana and I haven’t moved onto harder drugs and I haven’t raped anyone either. Hell, my grades have gotten better since starting my research! The short term effects of marijuana are long documented but no one knows the long term effects from smoking weed except for having a higher risk of getting lung cancer which you could get from smoking anything due to the harsh smoke eating away at your lungs. Although I am for the legalization of marijuana, I do think that children should not have access to weed. If it were up to me, I’d make it so that you need to be at least eighteen years of age for purchase or consumption. There should also be strict laws against operating vehicles while under the influence, much like alcohol. Our governments’ budget deficit is an equal opportunity problem for America and taxing marijuana could raise enough cash to get ourselves out of our growing twelve trillion in debt. Legalizing cannabis would help more than it would hurt our country. Alcohol prohibition in the 1920’s didn’t work; people still drank, and organized criminals reaped the profits from black market trade. We should tap into the market and let companies produce marijuana for distribution while taxing every pack of marijuana joints sold much like cigarettes. Legalization would also free many people that were taken to prison over the nations weak attempt at a “war on drugs” thus saving tax payers billions annually. According to ONDCP, federal spending to incarcerate drug offenders totals nearly $3 Billion a year -- $2.525 Billion by the Bureau of Prisons, and $429.4 Million by Federal Prisoner Detention. (4) With the money we’d be saving from not imprisoning petty drug offenders and by taxing, we could use that money to pay off our debt or use it for other areas in our goverments budget like education or health care. This opportunity should not be passed up!
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you really did it big with that posting 8)
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Sooner or later i think it will be legalized
Why should it not be legalized? Well to prohibitionists:
It is perceived as addictive.
It has "no accepted medical use."
It is associated with unfashionable lifestyles.
Advocates for marijuana legalization rarely present an appealing case.
lol at the prohibitionists
i mean take a look at ciggaretes...
-they are addictive
-they got nicotine which creates lung cancer (smokers are most likely to die from some sort of cancer lol, fuck the exceptions)
-smoking around non-smokers affects non-smokers too
-no medical use, lmao
and that shit is legal and has been killing people for quite a long time
alcohol
-also addictive (has been proved scientifically??)
-drunk people are dangerous lol
-shit load of people have died from being drunk (car accidents, falling of various shit, fights...)
also legal...
weed is less dangerous than both
and their has not been any death from the use of weed!!!
also:
Al Bundy true talk there 8)
and too people that think prices will go up if you legalize weed yall should go to Amsterdam..4 grams = 13 euro (20$ maybe less)
I always thought Arnold was open-minded 8)
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Sooner or later i think it will be legalized
Why should it not be legalized? Well to prohibitionists:
It is perceived as addictive.
It has "no accepted medical use."
It is associated with unfashionable lifestyles.
Advocates for marijuana legalization rarely present an appealing case.
lol at the prohibitionists
i mean take a look at ciggaretes...
-they are addictive
-they got nicotine which creates lung cancer (smokers are most likely to die from some sort of cancer lol, fuck the exceptions)
-smoking around non-smokers affects non-smokers too
-no medical use, lmao
and that shit is legal and has been killing people for quite a long time
alcohol
-also addictive (has been proved scientifically??)
-drunk people are dangerous lol
-shit load of people have died from being drunk (car accidents, falling of various shit, fights...)
also legal...
weed is less dangerous than both
and their has not been any death from the use of weed!!!
also:
Al Bundy true talk there 8)
and too people that think prices will go up if you legalize weed yall should go to Amsterdam..4 grams = 13 euro (20$ maybe less)
I always thought Arnold was open-minded 8)
It's too late to ban sigarettes and alcohol. they would if they could
If they knew all that shit about nicotine when it was invented it would be illigel by now.
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i don't want to try and act like the expert on the situation but i've done a lot of research on the topic and also had my final essay on legalization for my drugs, health and society class in college. to understand why it should be legalized, you need to know the history behind the current laws. i find it ironic that the first state to attempt to make marijuana illegal was California.
i wish i still had my word document with my essay. it had some good points as to why it should be legalized and i can't be fucked to retype that shit for dubcc.
to the people who think that weed prices would go up if it were legalized, i think you haven't considered the idea that major businesses could produce and distribute marijuana much like the cigarette industry does now. you'd probably see a pack of joints at walmart for the low. black market prices would also drop to try and compete with these companies taking their business. fuck 20 dollars a gram
+1
YESSSS SSSIIIIIRRRRR!
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people, stop calling it Marijuana.... Marijuana is a derogative old mexican word (old as in pre-spanish invasion) and it pretty much means faggot....
the word Marijuana was adopted by the US government in 1932 following the 1931 illiegalization of "Hemp" yup!
they didn't even care about people smoking it... weed was not made illegal because people smoked it..
HEMP(aka Cannabis AKA weed) was used, at that time, to make paper, books, sails (sail boat), clothing, oil, ropes, etc.... infact, in the 1920's, Hemp FAR SURPASSED cotton as America's chief crop.....
HEMP was made illegal to protect the cotton conglomerate, who's members were scattered all through-out the federal government....
So, based on that information, will Weed ever be legal??? all signs point to no....
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i don't want to try and act like the expert on the situation but i've done a lot of research on the topic and also had my final essay on legalization for my drugs, health and society class in college. to understand why it should be legalized, you need to know the history behind the current laws. i find it ironic that the first state to attempt to make marijuana illegal was California.
i wish i still had my word document with my essay. it had some good points as to why it should be legalized and i can't be fucked to retype that shit for dubcc.
to the people who think that weed prices would go up if it were legalized, i think you haven't considered the idea that major businesses could produce and distribute marijuana much like the cigarette industry does now. you'd probably see a pack of joints at walmart for the low. black market prices would also drop to try and compete with these companies taking their business. fuck 20 dollars a gram
+1
YESSSS SSSIIIIIRRRRR!
AND
people, stop calling it Marijuana.... Marijuana is a derogative old mexican word (old as in pre-spanish invasion) and it pretty much means faggot....
the word Marijuana was adopted by the US government in 1932 following the 1931 illiegalization of "Hemp" yup!
they didn't even care about people smoking it... weed was not made illegal because people smoked it..
HEMP(aka Cannabis AKA weed) was used, at that time, to make paper, books, sails (sail boat), clothing, oil, ropes, etc.... infact, in the 1920's, Hemp FAR SURPASSED cotton as America's chief crop.....
HEMP was made illegal to protect the cotton conglomerate, who's members were scattered all through-out the federal government....
So, based on that information, will Weed ever be legal??? all signs point to no....
Like everything you said except that last line. Weed is def on the verge of becoming legal in many areas.
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i don't want to try and act like the expert on the situation but i've done a lot of research on the topic and also had my final essay on legalization for my drugs, health and society class in college. to understand why it should be legalized, you need to know the history behind the current laws. i find it ironic that the first state to attempt to make marijuana illegal was California.
i wish i still had my word document with my essay. it had some good points as to why it should be legalized and i can't be fucked to retype that shit for dubcc.
to the people who think that weed prices would go up if it were legalized, i think you haven't considered the idea that major businesses could produce and distribute marijuana much like the cigarette industry does now. you'd probably see a pack of joints at walmart for the low. black market prices would also drop to try and compete with these companies taking their business. fuck 20 dollars a gram
+1
YESSSS SSSIIIIIRRRRR!
AND
people, stop calling it Marijuana.... Marijuana is a derogative old mexican word (old as in pre-spanish invasion) and it pretty much means faggot....
the word Marijuana was adopted by the US government in 1932 following the 1931 illiegalization of "Hemp" yup!
they didn't even care about people smoking it... weed was not made illegal because people smoked it..
HEMP(aka Cannabis AKA weed) was used, at that time, to make paper, books, sails (sail boat), clothing, oil, ropes, etc.... infact, in the 1920's, Hemp FAR SURPASSED cotton as America's chief crop.....
HEMP was made illegal to protect the cotton conglomerate, who's members were scattered all through-out the federal government....
So, based on that information, will Weed ever be legal??? all signs point to no....
Like everything you said except that last line. Weed is def on the verge of becoming legal in many areas.
I never got illigal drugs.
I mean you can't stop it, throw dealers in jail there will come new dealers.
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HEY WHATS WITH THE +1'S
DUDE ITS LIKE WE RE IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL...
OR LIKE KINDERGARTEN... ITS LIKE MIGHT AS WELLL REPLY...
<<GOOD SHIT HOMMIE, HERE IS A PLUS ONE STICKER, OR A NUMBER 1 COOKIE>> 8)
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HEY WHATS WITH THE +1'S
DUDE ITS LIKE WE RE IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL...
OR LIKE KINDERGARTEN... ITS LIKE MIGHT AS WELLL REPLY...
<<GOOD SHIT HOMMIE, HERE IS A PLUS ONE STICKER, OR A NUMBER 1 COOKIE>> 8)
+1
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HEY WHATS WITH THE +1'S
DUDE ITS LIKE WE RE IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL...
OR LIKE KINDERGARTEN... ITS LIKE MIGHT AS WELLL REPLY...
<<GOOD SHIT HOMMIE, HERE IS A PLUS ONE STICKER, OR A NUMBER 1 COOKIE>> 8)
GNR....
it's a message board man, you act as if this is the first and only place where cat's do the "+1" thing...
beside, typing "+1" conveys a lot of information with only 2 characters.... Lazy people gotta love it! ;D
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HEY WHATS WITH THE +1'S
DUDE ITS LIKE WE RE IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL...
OR LIKE KINDERGARTEN... ITS LIKE MIGHT AS WELLL REPLY...
<<GOOD SHIT HOMMIE, HERE IS A PLUS ONE STICKER, OR A NUMBER 1 COOKIE>> 8)
GNR....
it's a message board man, you act as if this is the first and only place where cat's do the "+1" thing...
beside, typing "+1" conveys a lot of information with only 2 characters.... Lazy people gotta love it! ;D
CASE RESTED LOL
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i don't want to try and act like the expert on the situation but i've done a lot of research on the topic and also had my final essay on legalization for my drugs, health and society class in college. to understand why it should be legalized, you need to know the history behind the current laws. i find it ironic that the first state to attempt to make marijuana illegal was California.
i wish i still had my word document with my essay. it had some good points as to why it should be legalized and i can't be fucked to retype that shit for dubcc.
to the people who think that weed prices would go up if it were legalized, i think you haven't considered the idea that major businesses could produce and distribute marijuana much like the cigarette industry does now. you'd probably see a pack of joints at walmart for the low. black market prices would also drop to try and compete with these companies taking their business. fuck 20 dollars a gram
yea i see what your saying. but if it were as low as ciggerette prices (even though stoges are fucking expensive now) the weed black market would ultimately collapse. i know slangers arnt gonan be able to sell 6-10 dollar OG kush grams. i mean shit that would be dope though. but seems kinda backwords that theyll sell it for ciggerete prices because somebodys gonna come up huge if the businesses sell it for 20 bucks a pack of joints
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^ i hear ya
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i don't want to try and act like the expert on the situation but i've done a lot of research on the topic and also had my final essay on legalization for my drugs, health and society class in college. to understand why it should be legalized, you need to know the history behind the current laws. i find it ironic that the first state to attempt to make marijuana illegal was California.
i wish i still had my word document with my essay. it had some good points as to why it should be legalized and i can't be fucked to retype that shit for dubcc.
to the people who think that weed prices would go up if it were legalized, i think you haven't considered the idea that major businesses could produce and distribute marijuana much like the cigarette industry does now. you'd probably see a pack of joints at walmart for the low. black market prices would also drop to try and compete with these companies taking their business. fuck 20 dollars a gram
yea i see what your saying. but if it were as low as ciggerette prices (even though stoges are fucking expensive now) the weed black market would ultimately collapse. i know slangers arnt gonan be able to sell 6-10 dollar OG kush grams. i mean shit that would be dope though. but seems kinda backwords that theyll sell it for ciggerete prices because somebodys gonna come up huge if the businesses sell it for 20 bucks a pack of joints
it's already cheaper in humboldt county (you can get some really dank shit @ $4/gram) so how come the dealers wouldn't be able to afford to sell it when they would have the legal right to grow their own plants? it would be cheaper than buying a pound and breaking it up into dubs lol
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^ hey but would it be the same quality?
or what the can prolly grow would be like chronic no?
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^ hey but would it be the same quality?
or what the can prolly grow would be like chronic no?
i don't just throw the word dank around to describe any strain of weed. this weed i'm talking about would be sold for over $20/gram here in socal. just smoking a bowl will get you dunzo
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All this stuff about strain strength and prcies and shit should be that last thing you guys worry about. There's a fundamental problem with the prohibition of marijuana in this country and that needs to change. Worry about the particulars later you damn stoners :P
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good idea j bananas...
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al bundy...
sounds like you know whats up good lookz on the input
but as far as myself... i dont get messed up off a hit no more... i need like lotta hits or a full blunt to get messed up you know..
but when i first started smokin kush i was gettin messed up off it...
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al bundy...
sounds like you know whats up good lookz on the input
but as far as myself... i dont get messed up off a hit no more... i need like lotta hits or a full blunt to get messed up you know..
but when i first started smokin kush i was gettin messed up off it...
a hit won't do shit for me too.
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Hope it happens! It should be legalized!
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will it happen? it has to.
when? who the fuck knows. soon i hope...
it is kinda bullshit to pay 20-25 for a GRAM.
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will it happen? it has to.
when? who the fuck knows. soon i hope...
it is kinda bullshit to pay 20-25 for a GRAM.
we gotta pretty good click through a hommie's hook. it comes to a little bit cheaper than that