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Title: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 19, 2009, 02:11:47 PM
this is tough for me to choose



here we go

1-Natas "Doubelievengod"
2-Eminem "Infinite"
3-Esham "Dead Flowerz"
4-Eminem "Slim Shady LP"
5-Esham "Closed Casket"
6-Twiztid "Mostasteless" (original)
7-House of Krazees "Remix and Rewind"
8-Dark Lotus "Tales from the Lotus Pod"
9-Esham "Tongues"
10-Natas "WWW.com"

honorable mention: I.C.P. "Riddle Box"

tough list to make...very tough.  but the #1 is clearcut to me, since it was Esham and Natas at their best rap + production wise (esham doing the producing, mixing + beats ofcourse)

left off Royce, Proof, D12 albums and the Marshall MAthers LP and Eminem show...just not good enough to make my cut
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: NillerTheKid on June 19, 2009, 02:29:38 PM
missing a lot from the jay dee family tree
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on June 19, 2009, 02:43:40 PM
The Marshall Mathers LP has to make that list, mine anyway lol.
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Jay_J on June 19, 2009, 02:50:27 PM
King Gordy - Entity
King Gordy - Cobain's Diary
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 19, 2009, 03:49:33 PM
missing a lot from the jay dee family tree


there's a lot i'm missing surely...but Esham during the 1993-1997 range was just as good as Quik or Sneed or any of them cats out west ar rapping + making beats
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 19, 2009, 05:28:25 PM
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Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: R1ZE on June 19, 2009, 06:39:08 PM
fantastic vol 1 and 2 are at the top for sure
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Hatesrats™ on June 19, 2009, 07:30:10 PM
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"Ain't No Future in Yo Frontin" alone>
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 19, 2009, 07:33:41 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_A5FW0Zqf2LA/R3vrIbEWv6I/AAAAAAAAAqQ/NDYT9QvT61s/s320/123959.jpg)
"Ain't No Future in Yo Frontin" alone>
hes from Flint, Michigan
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Moe on June 19, 2009, 08:01:34 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_A5FW0Zqf2LA/R3vrIbEWv6I/AAAAAAAAAqQ/NDYT9QvT61s/s320/123959.jpg)
"Ain't No Future in Yo Frontin" alone>
hes from Flint, Michigan
oh no!, not 1 hour and 6 minutes away!
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 19, 2009, 08:31:37 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_A5FW0Zqf2LA/R3vrIbEWv6I/AAAAAAAAAqQ/NDYT9QvT61s/s320/123959.jpg)
"Ain't No Future in Yo Frontin" alone>
hes from Flint, Michigan
oh no!, not 1 hour and 6 minutes away!


HE DOESN'T REPRESENT DETROIT, HE SHOUTS OUT FLINT-TOWN


IF HE CLAIMED TO BE FROM THE D THEN WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION HERE, BUT I DO NOT COUNT PEOPLE WHO REP DIFFERENT CITIES INTO THE THREAD
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Moe on June 19, 2009, 08:46:00 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_A5FW0Zqf2LA/R3vrIbEWv6I/AAAAAAAAAqQ/NDYT9QvT61s/s320/123959.jpg)
"Ain't No Future in Yo Frontin" alone>
hes from Flint, Michigan
oh no!, not 1 hour and 6 minutes away!


HE DOESN'T REPRESENT DETROIT, HE SHOUTS OUT FLINT-TOWN


IF HE CLAIMED TO BE FROM THE D THEN WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION HERE, BUT I DO NOT COUNT PEOPLE WHO REP DIFFERENT CITIES INTO THE THREAD
they say the big 3 are from detroit but 2 of them are from flint
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 19, 2009, 08:52:48 PM
Flint is a city of it's own...it's got a decent rap scene (Dayton Family for one)


thats like being from The Bay and claiming LA or San Diego instead...or Sactown
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Sofa_King_Awesome on June 19, 2009, 08:57:31 PM
missing a lot from the jay dee family tree
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: operation stackola on June 19, 2009, 09:03:55 PM
Proof?
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Paul on June 20, 2009, 08:25:28 AM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_A5FW0Zqf2LA/R3vrIbEWv6I/AAAAAAAAAqQ/NDYT9QvT61s/s320/123959.jpg)
"Ain't No Future in Yo Frontin" alone>
hes from Flint, Michigan
oh no!, not 1 hour and 6 minutes away!

haha
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: MediumL on June 20, 2009, 08:27:09 AM
Bizarre - Blue Cheese and Coney Island
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Booz on June 20, 2009, 08:44:26 AM
honorable mention: I.C.P. "Riddle Box"

left off Royce, Proof, D12 albums and the Marshall MAthers LP and Eminem show...just not good enough to make my cut
There is something wrong with this; you don't count MMLP, Rock City or Em Show as good albums but you give honorable mention to I.C.P?  :laugh:
You can see from that list that you are into horrorcore rap.
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 20, 2009, 09:10:34 AM
honorable mention: I.C.P. "Riddle Box"

left off Royce, Proof, D12 albums and the Marshall MAthers LP and Eminem show...just not good enough to make my cut
There is something wrong with this; you don't count MMLP, Rock City or Em Show as good albums but you give honorable mention to I.C.P?  :laugh:
You can see from that list that you are into horrorcore rap.


sorry if I'm not into the "accent" era of Eminem music as much as you are - Eminem Show has like 5 good tracks on it and MMLP has some either Great songs and some horrible songs...nothing inbetween


and ofcourse I'm into horrorcore rap.  doesn't take a genius to notice that one.  bet you never heard a song from Ringmaster...the Loons, Murder Go Round, Mr. Johnsons Head...there's some classics on that shit.


I still put SSLP and Infinite, Eminem at his best on there.


we all got our own opinions my friend, don't shit on mine and i won't shit on yours unless you put Kid Rock on your list
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Jin on June 20, 2009, 10:34:28 AM
Royce Da 5'9 - Death Is Certain
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Booz on June 20, 2009, 11:40:48 AM
honorable mention: I.C.P. "Riddle Box"

left off Royce, Proof, D12 albums and the Marshall MAthers LP and Eminem show...just not good enough to make my cut
There is something wrong with this; you don't count MMLP, Rock City or Em Show as good albums but you give honorable mention to I.C.P?  :laugh:
You can see from that list that you are into horrorcore rap.


sorry if I'm not into the "accent" era of Eminem music as much as you are - Eminem Show has like 5 good tracks on it and MMLP has some either Great songs and some horrible songs...nothing inbetween


and ofcourse I'm into horrorcore rap.  doesn't take a genius to notice that one.  bet you never heard a song from Ringmaster...the Loons, Murder Go Round, Mr. Johnsons Head...there's some classics on that shit.


I still put SSLP and Infinite, Eminem at his best on there.


we all got our own opinions my friend, don't shit on mine and i won't shit on yours unless you put Kid Rock on your list
Accent era? So slim shady lp don't have accent? Might wanna check on that, I'm sure it has way more accent stuff than The Eminem Show. I'll much rather listen to accent eminem than wannabe Nas, all assholes/opinions like you said though.
Besides you are trippin. When was I shitting on you?
I have heard tracks from I.C.P, they have some good tracks from there and there but not for a album worth definatly.
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: J$crILLa on June 22, 2009, 12:52:16 AM
who is natas?
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Jimmy H. on June 22, 2009, 01:10:10 AM

sorry if I'm not into the "accent" era of Eminem music as much as you are - Eminem Show has like 5 good tracks on it and MMLP has some either Great songs and some horrible songs...nothing inbetween

and ofcourse I'm into horrorcore rap.  doesn't take a genius to notice that one.  bet you never heard a song from Ringmaster...the Loons, Murder Go Round, Mr. Johnsons Head...there's some classics on that shit.

I still put SSLP and Infinite, Eminem at his best on there.

we all got our own opinions my friend, don't shit on mine and i won't shit on yours unless you put Kid Rock on your list
So in other words, it's "favorite" Detroit albums, not "best".   
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: dubsmith_nz on June 22, 2009, 01:46:21 AM
Royce Da 5'9 - Death Is Certain

Hard that album is ill! Proof - Searching For Jerry Garcia was pretty dope too
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: NiCc_FrUm_ThA_nO on June 22, 2009, 03:05:37 AM
who is natas?
Natas is a group with Esham, TNT, and Mastamind.
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Action! on June 22, 2009, 05:00:45 AM
Elzhi the Preface
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 22, 2009, 05:01:57 AM

sorry if I'm not into the "accent" era of Eminem music as much as you are - Eminem Show has like 5 good tracks on it and MMLP has some either Great songs and some horrible songs...nothing inbetween

and ofcourse I'm into horrorcore rap.  doesn't take a genius to notice that one.  bet you never heard a song from Ringmaster...the Loons, Murder Go Round, Mr. Johnsons Head...there's some classics on that shit.

I still put SSLP and Infinite, Eminem at his best on there.

we all got our own opinions my friend, don't shit on mine and i won't shit on yours unless you put Kid Rock on your list
So in other words, it's "favorite" Detroit albums, not "best".   


i don't care what your little sister and you think: marshall mathers LP is not a "classic"....IT'S LEAD SINGLE WAS "THE REAL SLIM SHADY" FOR CRYING OUT LOUD  :-\ ::) :laugh:
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Kurupt1607 on June 22, 2009, 05:51:44 AM
How can you forget J Dilla with "Welcome 2 Detroit", classic shit  8)
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: NillerTheKid on June 22, 2009, 06:17:16 AM

sorry if I'm not into the "accent" era of Eminem music as much as you are - Eminem Show has like 5 good tracks on it and MMLP has some either Great songs and some horrible songs...nothing inbetween

and ofcourse I'm into horrorcore rap.  doesn't take a genius to notice that one.  bet you never heard a song from Ringmaster...the Loons, Murder Go Round, Mr. Johnsons Head...there's some classics on that shit.

I still put SSLP and Infinite, Eminem at his best on there.

we all got our own opinions my friend, don't shit on mine and i won't shit on yours unless you put Kid Rock on your list
So in other words, it's "favorite" Detroit albums, not "best".   


i don't care what your little sister and you think: marshall mathers LP is not a "classic"....IT'S LEAD SINGLE WAS "THE REAL SLIM SHADY" FOR CRYING OUT LOUD  :-\ ::) :laugh:
So? possibly best mainstream single ever
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Big B on June 22, 2009, 06:19:52 AM
Proof - Searching For Jerry Garcia was pretty dope too
it was good but i refuse to say dope
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: J$crILLa on June 22, 2009, 12:50:46 PM
who is natas?
Natas is a group with Esham, TNT, and Mastamind.

ok i herd of esham... but thats all out of them
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Paul on June 22, 2009, 01:12:04 PM
who is natas?
Natas is a group with Esham, TNT, and Mastamind.

ok i herd of esham... but thats all out of them


You dont wanna hear mastamind, heard this 1 verse from him i was nearly sick, it was disgusting
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: dubsmith_nz on June 22, 2009, 03:31:39 PM
Proof - Searching For Jerry Garcia was pretty dope too
it was good but i refuse to say dope

lol each to their own
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 22, 2009, 04:36:16 PM

sorry if I'm not into the "accent" era of Eminem music as much as you are - Eminem Show has like 5 good tracks on it and MMLP has some either Great songs and some horrible songs...nothing inbetween

and ofcourse I'm into horrorcore rap.  doesn't take a genius to notice that one.  bet you never heard a song from Ringmaster...the Loons, Murder Go Round, Mr. Johnsons Head...there's some classics on that shit.

I still put SSLP and Infinite, Eminem at his best on there.

we all got our own opinions my friend, don't shit on mine and i won't shit on yours unless you put Kid Rock on your list
So in other words, it's "favorite" Detroit albums, not "best".   


i don't care what your little sister and you think: marshall mathers LP is not a "classic"....IT'S LEAD SINGLE WAS "THE REAL SLIM SHADY" FOR CRYING OUT LOUD  :-\ ::) :laugh:
So? possibly best mainstream single ever

LOL BEST MAINSTREAM SINGLE???


HE TALKS ABOUT CHRISTINA AGULARA FOR CRYING OUT LOUD



wow....i'm done with Marshall Mathers LP threads.  it has some amazing songs but if you compare it to Esham in his prime ya'll crazy.
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 22, 2009, 04:37:12 PM
who is natas?
Natas is a group with Esham, TNT, and Mastamind.

ok i herd of esham... but thats all out of them


You dont wanna hear mastamind, heard this 1 verse from him i was nearly sick, it was disgusting

yes, lets base a career based on ONE VERSE....THIS SOUNDS VERY SMART LOL



were you the same gentlemen trying to tell me THe Real Slim Shady and MArshall Mathers LP were classics in another thread?

now that you've also made this statement I can see where you get that idea from ;)




btw paul you got AIM?  i can send ya some nice music if ya want
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Paul on June 26, 2009, 10:07:06 AM
who is natas?
Natas is a group with Esham, TNT, and Mastamind.

ok i herd of esham... but thats all out of them


You dont wanna hear mastamind, heard this 1 verse from him i was nearly sick, it was disgusting

yes, lets base a career based on ONE VERSE....THIS SOUNDS VERY SMART LOL



were you the same gentlemen trying to tell me THe Real Slim Shady and MArshall Mathers LP were classics in another thread?

now that you've also made this statement I can see where you get that idea from ;)




btw paul you got AIM?  i can send ya some nice music if ya want


Haha na man i dont

After hearin that verse it put me off checkin out any of his stuff, Do u know what verse im on about?? i like Esham though  :)


I did say Marshall Mathers LP was a classic, my opinion  ;)
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: JohnnyL on June 26, 2009, 10:31:38 AM
Royce Da 5'9 - Death Is Certain

Hard that album is ill! Proof - Searching For Jerry Garcia was pretty dope too

Agree with both these.  "Death Is Certain" imo, is Royce's best album, thus far.  Also, I'd say "Searching For Jerry Garcia" at least deserves a mention.  It's a really good (nearly great) album from one of Detroit's most influencial rappers.  I also think Obie Trice's "Cheers" deserves a mention.  Maybe it's not good enough to be considered "great", but I would say it's a very good, solid album.
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 26, 2009, 10:33:02 AM
i got no idea what song your talkin about from Mastamind paul, do you remember any words from it or anything??


Mastamind is one of those guys who can't sustain himself for a full album but when you put him on a group track he can fit in and get his own following
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Paul on June 26, 2009, 11:19:05 AM
i got no idea what song your talkin about from Mastamind paul, do you remember any words from it or anything??


Mastamind is one of those guys who can't sustain himself for a full album but when you put him on a group track he can fit in and get his own following

Im actually wrong, i went back to listen to it and its a guy called Dice, but Mastamind is on the track

Ill post up the verse anyway

I knew this bitch named Cortessa
She was three years old I was twelve, I used to child molest her
A freaky little young bitch
My dick got hard every time I seen her switch
Even though her pussy got stole
Her colon was swolle because I nutted in her asshole
I'm in love even though she was an infant
And every now and then her mouth I left my dick prints
Her people got suspicious
Pussy delicious, she blew my dick like bubblicious
I used to hit it from the side, she used to ride,
Yeah nig suicide
Now cops investigate
She's 10 years old yelling rape, now I got a court date
I've been fucking her for years, so many years of screaming
Sick demon, now they're testing my semen
Now I'm going to the pen doing five to ten
Hey they say it's manslaughter
But who gives a fuck, I fucked my daughter

 :rubeyes: :loco:

Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 26, 2009, 04:13:28 PM
i got no idea what song your talkin about from Mastamind paul, do you remember any words from it or anything??


Mastamind is one of those guys who can't sustain himself for a full album but when you put him on a group track he can fit in and get his own following

Im actually wrong, i went back to listen to it and its a guy called Dice, but Mastamind is on the track

Ill post up the verse anyway

I knew this bitch named Cortessa
She was three years old I was twelve, I used to child molest her
A freaky little young bitch
My dick got hard every time I seen her switch
Even though her pussy got stole
Her colon was swolle because I nutted in her asshole
I'm in love even though she was an infant
And every now and then her mouth I left my dick prints
Her people got suspicious
Pussy delicious, she blew my dick like bubblicious
I used to hit it from the side, she used to ride,
Yeah nig suicide
Now cops investigate
She's 10 years old yelling rape, now I got a court date
I've been fucking her for years, so many years of screaming
Sick demon, now they're testing my semen
Now I'm going to the pen doing five to ten
Hey they say it's manslaughter
But who gives a fuck, I fucked my daughter

 :rubeyes: :loco:



that was DICE hahahahaha 




edit: you mentioned this but LOL yeah its not Mastamind's verse








and that was one of Dice's weakest verses -  when i heard it i was like "dude he mustve taken his time to make sure each line was as gross as possible" LOL
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on June 26, 2009, 04:14:10 PM
hey Paul, you should go download Esham "Dead Flowerz"


or if you cant find it hit me up on AIM and i can send it to ya




or buy it....it's worth the $$$....some classic detroit sheet
Title: Re: BEST ALBUMS IN THE HISTORY OF DETROIT RAP MUSIC?
Post by: Paul on June 27, 2009, 04:33:06 AM
hey Paul, you should go download Esham "Dead Flowerz"


or if you cant find it hit me up on AIM and i can send it to ya




or buy it....it's worth the $$$....some classic detroit sheet


Yeah i have it lyiing around somewhere, my brother used to be into esham alot and had all his cds, ill hunt it down and giv it a spin