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Title: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Lunatic on June 26, 2009, 09:34:25 AM

01.  Million Bucks (featuring Swizz Beatz)                        2:57
02.  Scene 1: If Tomorrow Comes...                                1:20
03.  Back To Life (featuring Pusha! Montana)                      3:14
04.  Remember My Name                                             3:46
05.  Gangsta (featuring B.G.)                                     4:35
06.  Scene 2: The Meeting                                         0:39
07.  All The Above (featuring T-Pain)                             5:15
08.  Here Comes Trouble                                           3:14
09.  Scene 3: Hating                                              1:09
10.  Hi Hater                                                     3:37
11.  Let's Make A Movie                                           4:02
12.  Kill You                                                     3:05
13.  Scene 4: Contemplating                                       0:48
14.  Runaway Slave                                                3:58
15.  Soldier                                                      4:11
16.  Hood Love (featuring Trey Songz)                             4:12
17.  Floating                                                     3:26
18.  Scene 5: The Phone Call                                      0:44
19.  Celebrate                                                   10:54
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Reventón Bogotá Rolla on June 26, 2009, 09:43:56 AM
FINALLY...
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Action! on June 26, 2009, 10:02:49 AM
The New York version of Young Jeezy.  This album isn't even New York, it's more of a southern album with a new york citizen.  He minds me of Jim Jones as well.  The skits are a bit corny.  All the Above is the brother track Live Ya Life.  Very similar but I'd rather have positive music reaching the masses.   I don't think Maino has carved his niche yet.  Unless he'll be like Jim Jones and just jump popular trends, he needs to develop a sense of who he is.  It was an aiight album.

I'll tell you want Budden's album was horrible mixed and mastered.  Runaway Slave final sound is much better than Pray For Me.  Budden needs to get his shit mixed and mastered again.
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Lunatic on June 26, 2009, 12:32:02 PM
After one spin, it's ok, average debut album

worth keeping:

million bucks
remember my name
gangsta
all the above
hi hater
celebrate
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Lil D on June 26, 2009, 01:42:28 PM
i hate it when albums get pushed back so many times and when it finally gets released it sounds like it has been put together in a few days. somewhat boring album, funny ass hooks and a lot of corny songs on there.
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Young Old Head on June 26, 2009, 01:45:15 PM
i'm actually suprised...not as weak/typical as i thought it would be...
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: hellrazor86 on June 26, 2009, 04:05:39 PM
link please
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: AnybodyKilla on June 26, 2009, 09:59:16 PM
Dope shit, listening now...doesnt sound bad...some shit i noticed. Listen to this beat by Maino, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJkPNEmsQAw and then listen to this Budden beat, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHtwU7xFLRY lol, same beat. Then listen to Mainos joint off this album http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEf9nZHrdtw, see how hes got that dude talkin like that as the judge and then this Budden song, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNxcQrsqBpQ and hes got God talkin in that voice too AND Maino used this beat on his album too for "Runaway Slave" LOL, whats goin on here? Did Maino let Budden use the "Til I Die" beat in exchange for the "Pray For Me" beat or something?
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: sobrino on June 27, 2009, 12:21:31 AM
It was nice... not better than the Willy debut though IMO
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on June 28, 2009, 06:22:19 AM
Decent album.  A step in the right direction for N.Y.
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Action! on June 28, 2009, 08:40:11 AM
Decent album.  A step in the right direction for N.Y.

Really?  I think it's a step backwards.  It's not New York sounding at all.
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on June 28, 2009, 01:50:32 PM
Decent album.  A step in the right direction for N.Y.

Really?  I think it's a step backwards.  It's not New York sounding at all.

I know what you're saying, I'm getting a bit of the vibe though, something that Jada, Cam, etc. didn't have.  It's quite a cohesive album imo.  Still, I think All The Above is the only one making the cut on my harddrive..  Really liked Floating and Runaway Slave though.
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Sofa_King_Awesome on June 28, 2009, 03:20:00 PM
LOL Maino
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: dubsmith_nz on June 28, 2009, 03:57:40 PM
Gonna have to find a link for this, interested in seeing what he brough to the table
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: AnybodyKilla on June 28, 2009, 05:17:50 PM
Kept about half the songs, my fav song was "Floating" though, prob the best Maino song ive heard yet!!!
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Action! on June 28, 2009, 06:24:11 PM
Decent album.  A step in the right direction for N.Y.

Really?  I think it's a step backwards.  It's not New York sounding at all.

I know what you're saying, I'm getting a bit of the vibe though, something that Jada, Cam, etc. didn't have.  It's quite a cohesive album imo.  Still, I think All The Above is the only one making the cut on my harddrive..  Really liked Floating and Runaway Slave though.

I agree that it's cohesive.  I just think the atmosphere of the album is more southern influenced then it is New York.  It's not a grimey sounding album, it's more polished and smooth.  I understand the Cam comparison and even recent Jada.   Hell, he reminds me of Jim Jones and Young Jeezy put together.   

My real point is that New York needs to reinvent itself but hi-jacking the south isn't the direction I want to see it go.
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Jaydc555 on June 28, 2009, 07:36:25 PM
That's an interesting point about the budden thing.Add in maino took the phrase hi hater from Joey
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: AnybodyKilla on June 28, 2009, 09:30:27 PM
That's an interesting point about the budden thing.Add in maino took the phrase hi hater from Joey

How do you know lol? I know ive seen his gf say it once or twice, but thats about it. Fucked up if he stole that too, smths def up lol!!!
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Jaydc555 on June 28, 2009, 09:35:46 PM
He used to say it tracks a long time ago.I'm sure one of the hardcore budden fans can hit you up with a specific song
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on June 28, 2009, 11:11:32 PM
He used to say it tracks a long time ago.I'm sure one of the hardcore budden fans can hit you up with a specific song

He's been using it as an adlib for the longest time in loads of songs.  If you need some proof, this is circa 2003.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMCOcKPUx8

Who really cares though, phrases catch on, ppl make songs about the phrase.  Nothing wrong there.. 
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on June 28, 2009, 11:15:52 PM
Decent album.  A step in the right direction for N.Y.

Really?  I think it's a step backwards.  It's not New York sounding at all.

I know what you're saying, I'm getting a bit of the vibe though, something that Jada, Cam, etc. didn't have.  It's quite a cohesive album imo.  Still, I think All The Above is the only one making the cut on my harddrive..  Really liked Floating and Runaway Slave though.

I agree that it's cohesive.  I just think the atmosphere of the album is more southern influenced then it is New York.  It's not a grimey sounding album, it's more polished and smooth.  I understand the Cam comparison and even recent Jada.   Hell, he reminds me of Jim Jones and Young Jeezy put together.   

My real point is that New York needs to reinvent itself but hi-jacking the south isn't the direction I want to see it go.

I overstand that.  Some of the tracks felt West coast-ish to me too.  But what I heard in Maino's project compared to others was he at least tryed to implement a bit of the NY sound, even tho he was using the kind of production he was using.. If that makes any sense.   Still work to be done, but I think Maino will help NY come back..  At the very least he got a product into the stores..
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on June 28, 2009, 11:57:42 PM
Lets hear it anyone hook up?
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: LONDON!!! on June 29, 2009, 04:22:29 AM
FINALLY...

bed stuy, bang, bang, ha ha
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on July 04, 2009, 03:57:51 AM
No more replies?
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on July 04, 2009, 04:13:25 AM
Remember My Name: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhhDi9Mzz8A

Floating: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO44Awja_O4

Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: AnybodyKilla on July 04, 2009, 02:20:34 PM
Remember My Name: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhhDi9Mzz8A

Floating: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO44Awja_O4



Yah, i like Remember My Name, Lets Make A Movie and All The Above!!!
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Blood$ on July 04, 2009, 07:35:09 PM
yeah "Let's Make A Movie" is actually a dope song for the ladies... I like that joint

I made a thread about it saying it should be Maino's next single but I guess that thread failed lol
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Jaydc555 on July 04, 2009, 07:40:13 PM
So apparently they aren't releasing the album in Canada until September.Wtf?That's just bizzare
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: dubsmith_nz on July 04, 2009, 07:57:50 PM
So apparently they aren't releasing the album in Canada until September.Wtf?That's just bizzare

Lol thats fucking wierd and pointless
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: AnybodyKilla on July 04, 2009, 10:16:18 PM
So apparently they aren't releasing the album in Canada until September.Wtf?That's just bizzare

LOLLLLL, this albums gonna flop pretty hard im pretty sure, not saying that him releasing it in Canada woulda made a big difference or anything. This was a hella sloppy release and to think he had all that time to drop it!!!
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Jaydc555 on July 04, 2009, 10:25:15 PM
The record company fucked up horribly on this release.They should have dropped it when hi hater was big
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on July 05, 2009, 12:52:00 AM
ya floating is the shit
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: AnybodyKilla on July 05, 2009, 12:53:08 AM
ya floating is the shit

Ive been playing the shit outta it!!!
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on July 05, 2009, 04:12:22 AM
The record company fucked up horribly on this release.They should have dropped it when hi hater was big

Yup.  Or right after All The Above was buzzing..  These suits afraid to jump,  The promotion/exposure was there, they just did it in the most horrible timeframe.  And I don't know what to say about the Canadian distribution, that's just messed for a major label release.

I'ma keep bumping this thread Stan-style for my boy Maino....
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: BIGWORM on July 05, 2009, 09:01:14 PM
The album is nice....
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Hoodlum204 on July 06, 2009, 10:53:04 AM
I Can Bump This All The Way Through. I Think It's A Dope Album. I Don't Know Why The Label Fucked Up Releasing This. I Been Bumping It For A Few Days.  8) "Kill You" Is Probly The Dopest Cut On The Album!! IMO
Blaze 1
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: K.Dub on July 07, 2009, 12:11:28 PM
What? We've been waiting several years for a proper album from this dude, and we get this?
I find this album boring after first listen. The beats are meh, flow is nothing to brag about about and he got little to no charisma in my opinion.

Might grow on me though.
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Hoodlum204 on July 07, 2009, 01:30:02 PM
I Agree He Has Little Charisma. But I Still Think This Is A Dope Album.
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: MediumL on July 07, 2009, 02:01:28 PM
Thing with Maino is that he isn't a typical punchline NY rapper which is fine but he doesn't really have enough charisma to getaway with it. I could see myself listening to one or two tracks in the future but i'm guessing Jada and Bustas albums will be more bumpable to me (in terms of albums that are in the same style).
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Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on July 07, 2009, 05:38:18 PM
I dunno, he's no lyrical giant, and doesn't flow like 50, but I like what he's talking about on alot of the songs. 
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: AnybodyKilla on July 07, 2009, 07:24:53 PM
Just checked on Hits Daily Double and he's sold 17k but it doesn't show how much % is in. Damn that's a flop imo, anything over 35k wouldve been good. Seeing as Jim Jones did only 43k then it seems right I guess. Don't think he'll be happy though but I'm glad it finally dropped!!!
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Post by: dubsmith_nz on July 07, 2009, 08:53:50 PM
Just checked on Hip Hop Daily and he's sold 17k but it doesn't show how much % is in. Damn that's a flop imo, anything over 35k wouldve been good. Seeing as Jim Jones did only 43k then it seems right I guess. Don't think he'll be happy though but I'm glad it finally dropped!!!

Fuck thats a massive flop, I was hoping he would push atleast 50k, 2 big singles, and the first new NYC artsit to drop in a long time. Damn, noone else has a chance
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: AnybodyKilla on July 07, 2009, 08:57:01 PM
Just checked on Hip Hop Daily and he's sold 17k but it doesn't show how much % is in. Damn that's a flop imo, anything over 35k wouldve been good. Seeing as Jim Jones did only 43k then it seems right I guess. Don't think he'll be happy though but I'm glad it finally dropped!!!

Fuck thats a massive flop, I was hoping he would push atleast 50k, 2 big singles, and the first new NYC artsit to drop in a long time. Damn, noone else has a chance

Jim Jones is a established artist man and he only moved 43k first week so it really wasnt a big surprise!!!
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Post by: D-Nice on July 07, 2009, 08:57:38 PM
Just checked on Hip Hop Daily and he's sold 17k but it doesn't show how much % is in. Damn that's a flop imo, anything over 35k wouldve been good. Seeing as Jim Jones did only 43k then it seems right I guess. Don't think he'll be happy though but I'm glad it finally dropped!!!

Fuck thats a massive flop, I was hoping he would push atleast 50k, 2 big singles, and the first new NYC artsit to drop in a long time. Damn, noone else has a chance

The album was pushed back a couple of times. Should have dropped last year when Hi Hata was getting some burn.
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Post by: Hoodlum204 on July 07, 2009, 09:56:59 PM
Just checked on Hip Hop Daily and he's sold 17k but it doesn't show how much % is in. Damn that's a flop imo, anything over 35k wouldve been good. Seeing as Jim Jones did only 43k then it seems right I guess. Don't think he'll be happy though but I'm glad it finally dropped!!!

Fuck thats a massive flop, I was hoping he would push atleast 50k, 2 big singles, and the first new NYC artsit to drop in a long time. Damn, noone else has a chance

The album was pushed back a couple of times. Should have dropped last year when Hi Hata was getting some burn.
Exactley!
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: AnybodyKilla on July 07, 2009, 10:27:04 PM
Just checked on Hip Hop Daily and he's sold 17k but it doesn't show how much % is in. Damn that's a flop imo, anything over 35k wouldve been good. Seeing as Jim Jones did only 43k then it seems right I guess. Don't think he'll be happy though but I'm glad it finally dropped!!!

Fuck thats a massive flop, I was hoping he would push atleast 50k, 2 big singles, and the first new NYC artsit to drop in a long time. Damn, noone else has a chance

The album was pushed back a couple of times. Should have dropped last year when Hi Hata was getting some burn.
Exactley!

Well dropping it back then woulda kinda been premature. I dont think many people wouldve bought the album sololy based on that one song, he wasnt established enough back then. Now that hes gotten more exposure with more singles, vids, the interviews and all of that stuff people know more about him and what hes about. Now i think was a good time to drop it, shoulda came out a lil earlier when "All The Above" was blazin then it wouldve been perfect!!!
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Post by: D-Nice on July 07, 2009, 10:34:10 PM
Just checked on Hip Hop Daily and he's sold 17k but it doesn't show how much % is in. Damn that's a flop imo, anything over 35k wouldve been good. Seeing as Jim Jones did only 43k then it seems right I guess. Don't think he'll be happy though but I'm glad it finally dropped!!!

Fuck thats a massive flop, I was hoping he would push atleast 50k, 2 big singles, and the first new NYC artsit to drop in a long time. Damn, noone else has a chance

The album was pushed back a couple of times. Should have dropped last year when Hi Hata was getting some burn.
Exactley!

Well dropping it back then woulda kinda been premature. I dont think many people wouldve bought the album sololy based on that one song, he wasnt established enough back then. Now that hes gotten more exposure with more singles, vids, the interviews and all of that stuff people know more about him and what hes about. Now i think was a good time to drop it, shoulda came out a lil earlier when "All The Above" was blazin then it wouldve been perfect!!!

true but these days all these delays just kill the momentum a artist is building and before ya know it a album comes and goes without much said.
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on July 08, 2009, 12:02:40 AM
I disagree.  I think if you drop your album just after the peak of your single, it will do well.   I think for a new artist, the time when I am most amped up to buy their shit is right after they drop a hot ass joint (most likely your single). 

Drop a mixtape for buzz and get the underground goin.

Drop your video/single.

DON'T drop anything else except for new singles (Keep the fans fiending for that exclusive music that's gonna be on ur album)

Do your promotion/marketing in the time between you single and your album.  Then DROP THE ALBUM.

It's a perfect timespan, but when these labels/artists start fucking around with delays you fuck the timeline up and it's unrecoverable from there..  You don't need to release "buzz music" if your timeline is set so the fans never lose their buzz for you!  You really got make sure your label believes in you and is dedicated to your schedule.  You should have your album complete with the singles before the first joint leaks.  They say you can't control what the fans are gonna eat up, and that you gotta have a strong single to recoup the money?  Wrong, major labels can make any song work if they think it's a hit, it's just all about the timing.
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Post by: MediumL on July 08, 2009, 12:24:57 AM
damn even Ace hood is selling more than him. I know ace hood got an album out already and def jam wouldve copped some cds but still. Maino had the hits - maybe he'll do better when people realise its in stores...
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Post by: AnybodyKilla on July 08, 2009, 03:18:36 PM
I disagree.  I think if you drop your album just after the peak of your single, it will do well.   I think for a new artist, the time when I am most amped up to buy their shit is right after they drop a hot ass joint (most likely your single). 

Drop a mixtape for buzz and get the underground goin.

Drop your video/single.

DON'T drop anything else except for new singles (Keep the fans fiending for that exclusive music that's gonna be on ur album)

Do your promotion/marketing in the time between you single and your album.  Then DROP THE ALBUM.

It's a perfect timespan, but when these labels/artists start fucking around with delays you fuck the timeline up and it's unrecoverable from there..  You don't need to release "buzz music" if your timeline is set so the fans never lose their buzz for you!  You really got make sure your label believes in you and is dedicated to your schedule.  You should have your album complete with the singles before the first joint leaks.  They say you can't control what the fans are gonna eat up, and that you gotta have a strong single to recoup the money?  Wrong, major labels can make any song work if they think it's a hit, it's just all about the timing.


Yah i feel you on that too, that would work aswell!!!

Mainos final numbers were 17,187, so i those were the official numbers from yesterday. Ace Hood sold 21, 584. Mainos gotta be pissed about his numbers!!!
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Post by: Lunatic on July 08, 2009, 03:20:49 PM
shocked to see Ace Hood push more numbers :-\
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Post by: hellrazor86 on July 08, 2009, 03:42:22 PM
link?
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on July 08, 2009, 06:24:00 PM
I disagree.  I think if you drop your album just after the peak of your single, it will do well.   I think for a new artist, the time when I am most amped up to buy their shit is right after they drop a hot ass joint (most likely your single). 

Drop a mixtape for buzz and get the underground goin.

Drop your video/single.

DON'T drop anything else except for new singles (Keep the fans fiending for that exclusive music that's gonna be on ur album)

Do your promotion/marketing in the time between you single and your album.  Then DROP THE ALBUM.

It's a perfect timespan, but when these labels/artists start fucking around with delays you fuck the timeline up and it's unrecoverable from there..  You don't need to release "buzz music" if your timeline is set so the fans never lose their buzz for you!  You really got make sure your label believes in you and is dedicated to your schedule.  You should have your album complete with the singles before the first joint leaks.  They say you can't control what the fans are gonna eat up, and that you gotta have a strong single to recoup the money?  Wrong, major labels can make any song work if they think it's a hit, it's just all about the timing.


Yah i feel you on that too, that would work aswell!!!

Mainos final numbers were 17,187, so i those were the official numbers from yesterday. Ace Hood sold 21, 584. Mainos gotta be pissed about his numbers!!!

Yeah.  But Ace Hood already had an album out already right?  I guess he's got some longetivity edge there...  He's a South artist, which gives him an edge (He is right?)  And he's on DefJam (I think?) which has a better marketing/promotion machine for Urban artists than Atlantic.  Still I never knew that guy's album was coming out cept for when I saw it on blogs.  I'm really interested to know if his sales were mostly region-based, or an even distribution through-out the country...

Comparision: Cam did 42K, Kiss did 142K.

I really expect Fab to do something above 200K. 
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: AnybodyKilla on July 08, 2009, 06:33:35 PM
I disagree.  I think if you drop your album just after the peak of your single, it will do well.   I think for a new artist, the time when I am most amped up to buy their shit is right after they drop a hot ass joint (most likely your single). 

Drop a mixtape for buzz and get the underground goin.

Drop your video/single.

DON'T drop anything else except for new singles (Keep the fans fiending for that exclusive music that's gonna be on ur album)

Do your promotion/marketing in the time between you single and your album.  Then DROP THE ALBUM.

It's a perfect timespan, but when these labels/artists start fucking around with delays you fuck the timeline up and it's unrecoverable from there..  You don't need to release "buzz music" if your timeline is set so the fans never lose their buzz for you!  You really got make sure your label believes in you and is dedicated to your schedule.  You should have your album complete with the singles before the first joint leaks.  They say you can't control what the fans are gonna eat up, and that you gotta have a strong single to recoup the money?  Wrong, major labels can make any song work if they think it's a hit, it's just all about the timing.


Yah i feel you on that too, that would work aswell!!!

Mainos final numbers were 17,187, so i those were the official numbers from yesterday. Ace Hood sold 21, 584. Mainos gotta be pissed about his numbers!!!

Yeah.  But Ace Hood already had an album out already right?  I guess he's got some longetivity edge there...  He's a South artist, which gives him an edge (He is right?)  And he's on DefJam (I think?) which has a better marketing/promotion machine for Urban artists than Atlantic.  Still I never knew that guy's album was coming out cept for when I saw it on blogs.  I'm really interested to know if his sales were mostly region-based, or an even distribution through-out the country...

Comparision: Cam did 42K, Kiss did 142K.

I really expect Fab to do something above 200K. 

I highly doubt that man, Fab will do 150k tops first week!!!
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on July 08, 2009, 06:36:29 PM
Yeah, you're totally right lol..  Oh well.
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: ikke on July 09, 2009, 08:58:31 AM
How come Ace is higher on Billboard 200 but Maino higher on R&B and Rap charts?
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Hoodlum204 on July 09, 2009, 10:55:13 AM
I'm Dissapointed Wit This Weeks #'s....Thats For Damn Sure!
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on July 10, 2009, 01:38:18 AM
Video to A Million Bucks with Swizzy: http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhyV253tO9F2y3Iz30
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: hellrazor86 on July 10, 2009, 07:02:44 AM
fuck the numbers.. maino aint to be fucked wit
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Meho on July 12, 2009, 02:22:37 PM
I almost missed out on this one and would've never checked if The Leak with his acquired taste wasn't so positive about it. Been listening to this for a few days now while jogging and I have to say that it's a dope album from top to bottom. Not your typical mainstream album with random tracks thrown together, he tried to make a cohesive album with a theme to it (his life story) and I think he succeeded. Even the skits aren't pointless but serve as some sort of narrator between tracks.

As far as Maino, he might not be a super MC but he's a quality songwriter with a good ear for beats. I've read that he only sold 18.000 copies which is a shame, if this was released in the 03 Curtis era he would've sold a lot more (his style is similar to 50's).
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: ikke on July 12, 2009, 02:44:37 PM
I almost missed out on this one and would've never checked if The Leak with his acquired taste wasn't so positive about it. Been listening to this for a few days now while jogging and I have to say that it's a dope album from top to bottom. Not your typical mainstream album with random tracks thrown together, he tried to make a cohesive album with a theme to it (his life story) and I think he succeeded. Even the skits aren't pointless but serve as some sort of narrator between tracks.

As far as Maino, he might not be a super MC but he's a quality songwriter with a good ear for beats. I've read that he only sold 18.000 copies which is a shame, if this was released in the 03 Curtis era he would've sold a lot more (his style is similar to 50's).
Only already established rappers sell records now
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Blood$ on July 12, 2009, 10:13:23 PM
I almost missed out on this one and would've never checked if The Leak with his acquired taste wasn't so positive about it. Been listening to this for a few days now while jogging and I have to say that it's a dope album from top to bottom. Not your typical mainstream album with random tracks thrown together, he tried to make a cohesive album with a theme to it (his life story) and I think he succeeded. Even the skits aren't pointless but serve as some sort of narrator between tracks.

As far as Maino, he might not be a super MC but he's a quality songwriter with a good ear for beats. I've read that he only sold 18.000 copies which is a shame, if this was released in the 03 Curtis era he would've sold a lot more (his style is similar to 50's).

+1, I been bumpin' this at the gym as well, or when I'm just cruisin'  8)
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Lunatic on July 12, 2009, 10:14:56 PM
I like the fact that it's cohesive and the skits fit well as Meho said, but I can't really get too much into it. No bad trakcs (minus a small handful) but many 3/5 tracks.
Title: Re: [6.26] Maino-If Tomorrow Comes [Explicit][Retail][2009][Grouprip]
Post by: Jaydc555 on July 12, 2009, 10:42:47 PM
I like that its an album.It has a very cohesive feel with the whole cinematic story feel to it.Most albums nowadays just feel like random songs thrown together.its not a great album but well worth the listen