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Lifestyle => Tha G-Spot => Topic started by: Job starring as King Of Zamunda on June 26, 2009, 02:28:19 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/v/lx_zvaEQfzk&hl=en&fs=1&
eye am just curious and think it is a legit question. because at the end of the day. all the bullshit he was pumping his body with and all the surgeries is what really took a toll on his body
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I think it was a ton of things, cant narrow that shit down to just one cause. A lot of child stars end up fucked up in the head. Then you had the pressure and abuse from his pops combined with a overly strict Jehova's Witness household. A lot of Jehovas Witnesses end up being really shy and reserved like him. They seem sort of anti-social. Imagine the conflict within him to be this strict follower of Jehova, but at the same time be the ultimate entertainer. Its a shame that such a great entertainer had so many issues. But to be real, as great as he was....if he would have stayed the same normal Black kid he was in the beginning he would never have become as HUGE as he was. He would have had all the same talent, been just as great....but in this world, his wierdness made him even more famous.
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I think it was a ton of things, cant narrow that shit down to just one cause. A lot of child stars end up fucked up in the head. Then you had the pressure and abuse from his pops combined with a overly strict Jehova's Witness household. A lot of Jehovas Witnesses end up being really shy and reserved like him. They seem sort of anti-social. Imagine the conflict within him to be this strict follower of Jehova, but at the same time be the ultimate entertainer. Its a shame that such a great entertainer had so many issues. But to be real, as great as he was....if he would have stayed the same normal Black kid he was in the beginning he would never have become as HUGE as he was. He would have had all the same talent, been just as great....but in this world, his wierdness made him even more famous.
How many child stars you know going around changing their natural skin color, hair, nose, lips, etc. there are a lot of child start ( majority white) are were drug addicts and alcohols. but none to the extend of Michael Jackson. His hate for himself was on another level.
Yes the strict jevoh witness was there and the father, but there are plenty of people that had strict parents and strict religion growing up. Like eye said the issue with Michael is on a different scale.
your tripping, my friend. he would have had been just as famous. if anything the weirdness probably deviated people from him. His music and his dancing is what people fell in love with him for. you would be surprised to see how many young Black children dont see themselves pretty because of their Black skin and type of hair. Please dont underestimated the effects that white supremacy can have on a young Black child who does have knowledge of thy self.
Eye believe it was a combination of two: him being deprived causes his behavior to eccentric when it came to kids and 2.) WHITE SUPREMACY caused him to hate himself to the point that he mutilated his body
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I think it's as simple as him being retarded.
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Self-esteem.
It's fuckin' too bad. A damn shame.
Only 50 years ol'.. :grumpy:
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I think it was a ton of things, cant narrow that shit down to just one cause. A lot of child stars end up fucked up in the head. Then you had the pressure and abuse from his pops combined with a overly strict Jehova's Witness household. A lot of Jehovas Witnesses end up being really shy and reserved like him. They seem sort of anti-social. Imagine the conflict within him to be this strict follower of Jehova, but at the same time be the ultimate entertainer. Its a shame that such a great entertainer had so many issues. But to be real, as great as he was....if he would have stayed the same normal Black kid he was in the beginning he would never have become as HUGE as he was. He would have had all the same talent, been just as great....but in this world, his wierdness made him even more famous.
How many child stars you know going around changing their natural skin color, hair, nose, lips, etc. there are a lot of child start ( majority white) are were drug addicts and alcohols. but none to the extend of Michael Jackson. His hate for himself was on another level.
Yes the strict jevoh witness was there and the father, but there are plenty of people that had strict parents and strict religion growing up. Like eye said the issue with Michael is on a different scale.
your tripping, my friend. he would have had been just as famous. if anything the weirdness probably deviated people from him. His music and his dancing is what people fell in love with him for. you would be surprised to see how many young Black children dont see themselves pretty because of their Black skin and type of hair. Please dont underestimated the effects that white supremacy can have on a young Black child who does have knowledge of thy self.
Eye believe it was a combination of two: him being deprived causes his behavior to eccentric when it came to kids and 2.) WHITE SUPREMACY caused him to hate himself to the point that he mutilated his body
Yeah alot of child stars end up fucked up, but thats why I dont think it was that alone. Its a combination of everything. Michael was thrust in front of the spotlight at an early age. He was pushed to be a star by his pops. He came from a household where your taught that the world is evil, man is bad, but you need to become a huge success in the eyes of the same people you think are evil. Thats pretty conflicting shit for a young kid to deal with. THEN, you have the fact that he went from (in a relatively short amount of time) being a kid in simple, strict home in gary Indiana....to a mega celebrity in Hollywood. A Hollywood that, at the time, believed beauty was defined by a Cosmo cover model...not a Jet Beauty of the Week. Michael being programmed to be the big star, im sure felt the pressure to assimilate into that Hollywood persona that allowed him to be what Hollywood felt was beautiful. Bottom line, he was all fucked up.
As for the famous part. My point is this. There are a lot of great, and talented musicians who dont become famous. As a matter of fact, some of the greatest...arent famous. Michael is one of the most talented entertainers ever. His talent remained the same no matter what. If he would have stayed who he was, he would have still be just as talented and just as amazing. But Im not convinced Hollywood would have allowed him to become the most famous entertainer of all time had it not been for the skin lightening, and overall change in himself. Shit, Beyonce blew the fuck up in the music industry when she started making herself lighter. Its fucked up, but thats how they do shit. Not to mention, the world loves a freak show. And Michael gave them that shit.
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Surgeries, meds, I think stress was a huge factor, being 400 MILLION in debt is no joke, the media, he had to go back on tour, I dont think he wanted to, Im sure he wulda rather jus kicked back but that was the only way 4 him to get out of debt n make some money. The rehearsals might've taken a toll on him, he prolly had a weak heart which is why we saw him in a wheelchair alot.
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create hype to sell more
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i voted fuck you nigger. just because the option was there
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I vote it was a legit skin disease, lol, I didn't even see the poll. Wow.
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I think it was a ton of things, cant narrow that shit down to just one cause. A lot of child stars end up fucked up in the head. Then you had the pressure and abuse from his pops combined with a overly strict Jehova's Witness household. A lot of Jehovas Witnesses end up being really shy and reserved like him. They seem sort of anti-social. Imagine the conflict within him to be this strict follower of Jehova, but at the same time be the ultimate entertainer. Its a shame that such a great entertainer had so many issues. But to be real, as great as he was....if he would have stayed the same normal Black kid he was in the beginning he would never have become as HUGE as he was. He would have had all the same talent, been just as great....but in this world, his wierdness made him even more famous.
How many child stars you know going around changing their natural skin color, hair, nose, lips, etc. there are a lot of child start ( majority white) are were drug addicts and alcohols. but none to the extend of Michael Jackson. His hate for himself was on another level.
Yes the strict jevoh witness was there and the father, but there are plenty of people that had strict parents and strict religion growing up. Like eye said the issue with Michael is on a different scale.
your tripping, my friend. he would have had been just as famous. if anything the weirdness probably deviated people from him. His music and his dancing is what people fell in love with him for. you would be surprised to see how many young Black children dont see themselves pretty because of their Black skin and type of hair. Please dont underestimated the effects that white supremacy can have on a young Black child who does have knowledge of thy self.
Eye believe it was a combination of two: him being deprived causes his behavior to eccentric when it came to kids and 2.) WHITE SUPREMACY caused him to hate himself to the point that he mutilated his body
Yeah alot of child stars end up fucked up, but thats why I dont think it was that alone. Its a combination of everything. Michael was thrust in front of the spotlight at an early age. He was pushed to be a star by his pops. He came from a household where your taught that the world is evil, man is bad, but you need to become a huge success in the eyes of the same people you think are evil. Thats pretty conflicting shit for a young kid to deal with. THEN, you have the fact that he went from (in a relatively short amount of time) being a kid in simple, strict home in gary Indiana....to a mega celebrity in Hollywood. A Hollywood that, at the time, believed beauty was defined by a Cosmo cover model...not a Jet Beauty of the Week. Michael being programmed to be the big star, im sure felt the pressure to assimilate into that Hollywood persona that allowed him to be what Hollywood felt was beautiful. Bottom line, he was all fucked up.
As for the famous part. My point is this. There are a lot of great, and talented musicians who dont become famous. As a matter of fact, some of the greatest...arent famous. Michael is one of the most talented entertainers ever. His talent remained the same no matter what. If he would have stayed who he was, he would have still be just as talented and just as amazing. But Im not convinced Hollywood would have allowed him to become the most famous entertainer of all time had it not been for the skin lightening, and overall change in himself. Shit, Beyonce blew the fuck up in the music industry when she started making herself lighter. Its fucked up, but thats how they do shit. Not to mention, the world loves a freak show. And Michael gave them that shit.
yup eye noticed that bullshit too. pure bullshit. eye see where your coming from
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him being deprived causes his behavior to eccentric when it came to kids
That and alot of things that happened during his childhood, he was probably molested himself, who knows. I watched this doco last night, and he sure was a troubled person.
Mate, you're a pretty racist cat aye. Wouldn't it be funny if you are really a pommy cunt or better yet.....................GERMAN.
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Dr. Funkenstein's diagnosis:
Once, in the 1980s, George Clinton made an interesting comment in an interview with the music/social critic Greg Tate. He suggested that the reason Michael Jackson kept changing his facial appearance (through repeated cosmetic surgeries, it appeared, though Jackson frequently denied this) was that his image had become so ubiquitous he'd grow sick of seeing it everywhere. The only way Jackson could maintain a sense of his own identity as a person rather than a product, in other words, was by changing his face, thereby staying a step ahead of his own marketing machine.
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Dr. Funkenstein's diagnosis:
Once, in the 1980s, George Clinton made an interesting comment in an interview with the music/social critic Greg Tate. He suggested that the reason Michael Jackson kept changing his facial appearance (through repeated cosmetic surgeries, it appeared, though Jackson frequently denied this) was that his image had become so ubiquitous he'd grow sick of seeing it everywhere. The only way Jackson could maintain a sense of his own identity as a person rather than a product, in other words, was by changing his face, thereby staying a step ahead of his own marketing machine.
thats the most bullshit eye ever heard
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him being deprived causes his behavior to eccentric when it came to kids
That and alot of things that happened during his childhood, he was probably molested himself, who knows. I watched this doco last night, and he sure was a troubled person.
Mate, you're a pretty racist cat aye. Wouldn't it be funny if you are really a pommy cunt or better yet.....................GERMAN.
here comes honkey complaining about reverse racism.......... wouldnt it be funny if you were some white nerd, who says nigga when reciting his favorite rap song but doesn about Blacks. OH WAIT YOU ARE
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Job...
Micheal Jackson died of food poisoning from eating 9 year old wieners
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Micheal Jackson died of food poisoning from eating 9 year old wieners
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Job...
Micheal Jackson died of food poisoning from eating 9 year old wieners
nigga you a clown. you need to first stop paying for ass second you need to get up in the gym. because you got a bird chest nigga and you flabby. look like a fat fuck on the toilet
"Niggas lookin like Larry Holmes, flabby and sick
Tryin to player hate on my shit, you eat a fat dick " - Pac
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Sadly,I think he was pretty fucked up in the head, probably thought that becoming white was the best thing he could do, what a sad person. RIP MJ
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Dr. Funkenstein's diagnosis:
Once, in the 1980s, George Clinton made an interesting comment in an interview with the music/social critic Greg Tate. He suggested that the reason Michael Jackson kept changing his facial appearance (through repeated cosmetic surgeries, it appeared, though Jackson frequently denied this) was that his image had become so ubiquitous he'd grow sick of seeing it everywhere. The only way Jackson could maintain a sense of his own identity as a person rather than a product, in other words, was by changing his face, thereby staying a step ahead of his own marketing machine.
thats the most bullshit eye ever heard
What's bullshit about it?
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probably the same thing that goes through the minds of the sick fucks who get sex reassignment surgery. except in this case it was skin color instead of sex.
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him being deprived causes his behavior to eccentric when it came to kids
That and alot of things that happened during his childhood, he was probably molested himself, who knows. I watched this doco last night, and he sure was a troubled person.
Mate, you're a pretty racist cat aye. Wouldn't it be funny if you are really a pommy cunt or better yet.....................GERMAN.
here comes honkey complaining about reverse racism.......... wouldnt it be funny if you were some white nerd, who says nigga when reciting his favorite rap song but doesn about Blacks. OH WAIT YOU ARE
....................................NOT
(http://www.trojanwire.com/images/polamalu-si-cover.jpg)
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I think it was a ton of things, cant narrow that shit down to just one cause. A lot of child stars end up fucked up in the head. Then you had the pressure and abuse from his pops combined with a overly strict Jehova's Witness household. A lot of Jehovas Witnesses end up being really shy and reserved like him. They seem sort of anti-social. Imagine the conflict within him to be this strict follower of Jehova, but at the same time be the ultimate entertainer. Its a shame that such a great entertainer had so many issues. But to be real, as great as he was....if he would have stayed the same normal Black kid he was in the beginning he would never have become as HUGE as he was. He would have had all the same talent, been just as great....but in this world, his wierdness made him even more famous.
How many child stars you know going around changing their natural skin color, hair, nose, lips, etc. there are a lot of child start ( majority white) are were drug addicts and alcohols. but none to the extend of Michael Jackson. His hate for himself was on another level.
Yes the strict jevoh witness was there and the father, but there are plenty of people that had strict parents and strict religion growing up. Like eye said the issue with Michael is on a different scale.
your tripping, my friend. he would have had been just as famous. if anything the weirdness probably deviated people from him. His music and his dancing is what people fell in love with him for. you would be surprised to see how many young Black children dont see themselves pretty because of their Black skin and type of hair. Please dont underestimated the effects that white supremacy can have on a young Black child who does have knowledge of thy self.
Eye believe it was a combination of two: him being deprived causes his behavior to eccentric when it came to kids and 2.) WHITE SUPREMACY caused him to hate himself to the point that he mutilated his body
agree with this
Job...
Micheal Jackson died of food poisoning from eating 9 year old wieners
nigga you a clown. you need to first stop paying for ass second you need to get up in the gym. because you got a bird chest nigga and you flabby. look like a fat fuck on the toilet
"Niggas lookin like Larry Holmes, flabby and sick
Tryin to player hate on my shit, you eat a fat dick " - Pac
dayum, roasted him lol
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Going to say, his Fathers abuse, Him being a Child Star,working up to his death, Loss of a normal Child hood which he wanted, which resulted in his Kid in a man body type mentality (Come on Never land ranch, who here didn't think WTF? when he first bought that lol), The fact he had a skin condition that changed him from black to white, so he bleached/powered the rest of it to even it out, the fact he might of not feel good about the way he looks, so he got surgery (Possibly has that complex, were you don't like your self no mater what) after Surgery, then his nose was all fucked up (Eventually it was fixed sorta). The constant hanging around with children, didn't help him grow up mentally at all, The various pains he supposedly had (it was muscle type stuff I think).
Honestly I'm not surprised, they say the best artist or comedian usually has the most fucked up life or personality.
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Honestly I'm not surprised, they say the best artist or comedian usually has the most fucked up life or personality.
it's these guys substitute sanity, inner peace self worth and love for Fame and Stardom..
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Honestly I'm not surprised, they say the best artist or comedian usually has the most fucked up life or personality.
it's these guys substitute sanity, inner peace self worth and love for Fame and Stardom..
Also, a lot of their art stems from pain.
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classic case of nature and nuture
the nurture side of it:
1. no child hood
2. bad father
3. had to grow up early
4. isolated from the world
5. jehova's witness....and all that that it encompasses
6. everyone has said that he lacked self confidence...hence why he tried to so much plastic surgury....something probably went wrong once, i believe he broke his nose after he had gotten surgury on it and then it was all down hill from there
7. unable to relate to anyone
the nature side of it
it's a disease called vitiligo
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/2020/Desiree_Vitiligo_080327_ms.jpg)
(http://www.bio.davidson.edu/Courses/Immunology/Students/Spring2003/Leese/Vitiligo.jpg)
(http://www.bagofnothing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/bwthomasap.jpg)
(http://www.jacksonaction.com/text/vitiligo-filer/image002.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i279/marnifrances/Michael%20Jackson/Vitiligo5.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/Kidd92/normal_vitiligomj.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Q_bee/Michael%20Jackson/vitiliigo.jpg)
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/80.jpg)
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/zpmjda/image008.jpg)
(http://riotclitshave.com/2009.01/vitiligo_45978_lg.jpg) hence michael always wearing make up (mascara specifically)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/mitshu/vitiligo1.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JeSqlMgBcyY/R9iW__wFgKI/AAAAAAAABIg/RwbRzoau8NA/s320/vitiligo2.jpg)
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/lQ6b7kHGsSg/hqdefault.jpg)
(http://mjbigfan.blog.gogo.mn/resource/vitiligo.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/unbeakablej/vit4.jpg)
(http://www.tratamientoycura.com/blog/img/vitiligo_tratamientoycura.com_02.jpg)
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Honestly I'm not surprised, they say the best artist or comedian usually has the most fucked up life or personality.
it's these guys substitute sanity, inner peace self worth and love for Fame and Stardom..
Also, a lot of their art stems from pain.
Exactly!!..but one would imagine through music that pain will heal itself, rather it appears to have gain momentum...
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classic case of nature and nuture
the nurture side of it:
1. no child hood
2. bad father
3. had to grow up early
4. isolated from the world
5. jehova's witness....and all that that it encompasses
6. everyone has said that he lacked self confidence...hence why he tried to so much plastic surgury....something probably went wrong once, i believe he broke his nose after he had gotten surgury on it and then it was all down hill from there
7. unable to relate to anyone
the nature side of it
it's a disease called vitiligo
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/2020/Desiree_Vitiligo_080327_ms.jpg)
(http://www.bio.davidson.edu/Courses/Immunology/Students/Spring2003/Leese/Vitiligo.jpg)
(http://www.bagofnothing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/bwthomasap.jpg)
(http://www.jacksonaction.com/text/vitiligo-filer/image002.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i279/marnifrances/Michael%20Jackson/Vitiligo5.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/Kidd92/normal_vitiligomj.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Q_bee/Michael%20Jackson/vitiliigo.jpg)
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/80.jpg)
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/zpmjda/image008.jpg)
(http://riotclitshave.com/2009.01/vitiligo_45978_lg.jpg) hence michael always wearing make up (mascara specifically)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/mitshu/vitiligo1.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JeSqlMgBcyY/R9iW__wFgKI/AAAAAAAABIg/RwbRzoau8NA/s320/vitiligo2.jpg)
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/lQ6b7kHGsSg/hqdefault.jpg)
(http://mjbigfan.blog.gogo.mn/resource/vitiligo.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/unbeakablej/vit4.jpg)
(http://www.tratamientoycura.com/blog/img/vitiligo_tratamientoycura.com_02.jpg)
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Ur message was on Point!!!
Looking @ those Pics..it's sad..truly sad!!!
damn...
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classic case of nature and nuture
the nurture side of it:
1. no child hood
2. bad father
3. had to grow up early
4. isolated from the world
5. jehova's witness....and all that that it encompasses
6. everyone has said that he lacked self confidence...hence why he tried to so much plastic surgury....something probably went wrong once, i believe he broke his nose after he had gotten surgury on it and then it was all down hill from there
7. unable to relate to anyone
the nature side of it
it's a disease called vitiligo
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/2020/Desiree_Vitiligo_080327_ms.jpg)
(http://www.bio.davidson.edu/Courses/Immunology/Students/Spring2003/Leese/Vitiligo.jpg)
(http://www.bagofnothing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/bwthomasap.jpg)
(http://www.jacksonaction.com/text/vitiligo-filer/image002.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i279/marnifrances/Michael%20Jackson/Vitiligo5.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/Kidd92/normal_vitiligomj.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Q_bee/Michael%20Jackson/vitiliigo.jpg)
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/WhoseLineIsItAnyway/Michael%20Jackson/80.jpg)
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/zpmjda/image008.jpg)
(http://riotclitshave.com/2009.01/vitiligo_45978_lg.jpg) hence michael always wearing make up (mascara specifically)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/mitshu/vitiligo1.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JeSqlMgBcyY/R9iW__wFgKI/AAAAAAAABIg/RwbRzoau8NA/s320/vitiligo2.jpg)
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/lQ6b7kHGsSg/hqdefault.jpg)
(http://mjbigfan.blog.gogo.mn/resource/vitiligo.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/unbeakablej/vit4.jpg)
(http://www.tratamientoycura.com/blog/img/vitiligo_tratamientoycura.com_02.jpg)
lmao Joke of the day: "Heres proof god hated darkies"
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you know..you dont have to quote a message when its that long...
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He got wrapped up in bullshit. So called friends that were really doctors peddling drugs to him. It'll all come out in a few weeks.
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He got wrapped up in bullshit. So called friends that were really doctors peddling drugs to him. It'll all come out in a few weeks.
sounds like every other "celeberty downward spiral"...brtiney spears, anna nicole smith, etc.
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Self-Concept
Permanent self-assessment.
He probably wanted to change his face because he's too dark.
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you know..you dont have to quote a message when its that long...
LMAO
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His love of small children.
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(http://www.morethings.com/log/pictures/mj_dangles_baby.jpg)
ABC ITS AS EASY AS 123
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i wonder how bez took this...