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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: YaKno7 on August 09, 2009, 03:15:25 PM
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Do you think Crooked I should defend Joe Budden, since it happened in his backyard
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no
he needs to drop his EP with Raekwan on it as planned and ignore that whole incident because Joey shouldn't have been running his mouth. Crooked can't be caught up in silly beefs anymore.
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no, he needs to drop his EP with Raekwan on it as planned and ignore that whole incident because Joey shouldn't have been running his mouth.
Exactly. Didn't know Raekwon will be featured on it though.
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no
he needs to drop his EP with Raekwan on it as planned and ignore that whole incident because Joey shouldn't have been running his mouth. Crooked can't be caught up in silly beefs anymore.
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be interestin to see if chef makes a diss track in time for ob4cl2
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I feel ya
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he already did
http://www.rapradar.com/live-show/crooked-i-defends-joe-budden-on-stage-at-rock-the-bells-la.html
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he already did
http://www.rapradar.com/live-show/crooked-i-defends-joe-budden-on-stage-at-rock-the-bells-la.html
"Don't believe everything you see on the Internet. Don't nobody gonna disrespect one of my niggas on the muthafuckin' West Coast."
I'm sorry my G, but I think that already happened.
I lol'd
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Do you think Crooked I should defend Joe Budden, since it happened in his backyard
Wu's got a lot of influence in the West. So, Crooked talkin' this backyard shit is irrelevant. But, no, he shouldn't defend corny ass Budden (it would be detrimental to his already unstable rap career).
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Damn i forgot that Crooked and Rae hooked up. Hopefully that track drops cause it should be heat. Last thing Crooked needs to do is care about Budden - at the rate crookeds gputting on weight dudes gonna be big pun'd in a couple years time.
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Re: Should Crooked I defend Joe Budden
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Quote from: YaKno7 on Today at 03:15:25 PM
Do you think Crooked I should defend Joe Budden, since it happened in his backyard
Wu's got a lot of influence in the West. So, Crooked talkin' this backyard shit is irrelevant. But, no, he shouldn't defend corny ass Budden (it would be detrimental to his already unstable rap career).
I don't no bout dat i'm from tha WEST and I don't know any niggaz talkin or knockin Wu Tang and hell yea Crook should defend Joe they in a group together if i was Joe I would expect Crook 2 have my back jus cuz
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Quote from: YaKno7 on Today at 03:15:25 PM
Do you think Crooked I should defend Joe Budden, since it happened in his backyard
Wu's got a lot of influence in the West. So, Crooked talkin' this backyard shit is irrelevant. But, no, he shouldn't defend corny ass Budden (it would be detrimental to his already unstable rap career).
I don't no bout dat i'm from tha WEST and I don't know any niggaz talkin or knockin Wu Tang and hell yea Crook should defend Joe they in a group together if i was Joe I would expect Crook 2 have my back jus cuz
Northstar and Black Knights are WestC. And going by Pac, the martyr of the West, he gave Wu his blessings as the group "representing the East how we represent the West."
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If it wasn't for Joey (and the rest of the guys) Crooked would still stand with 0 official albums on his C.V.
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I didn't see the incident, but I was at the show, and I'm just gonna state up front from a fan's perspective that what Raekwon and his people did fucked up the rest of the show.
Slaughterhouse had to go on the same time as Nas, which fucked them over in terms of getting a big crowd at their set, and at the same time their set was cut hella short because of the bullshit that went down. I for one was real hot that Slaughterhouse's set got delayed damn near 2 hours and cut short, and as a result of Raekwon's bullshit he didn't do his solo set and Tech N9ne had to go on 2 hours before his scheduled time to fill time because of Raekwon's madness, thus making me and most people miss Tech N9ne's set, on top of not getting to see any kind of Wu-Tang set.
All in all, I expected more from Raekwon being a seasoned vet and a pioneer, he didn't need to pull something like that, especially on someone like Budden in Crooked's backyard, Los Angeles.
The shit was squashed like a month ago between METHOD MAN, whom the problem was actually with, and BUDDEN himself. This shit had nothing to do with Raekwon. Very immature and selfish on his part, he fucked over a lot of fans yesterday with that bullshit.
I love Wu-Tang and all, but they should just be left off the LA leg of the tour next year. When it gets down to it, concerts like this are about the fans and we don't need that bullshit in an already hostile LA concert environment. Slaughterhouse deserved to be on the main stage, and hopefully next year they'll have their shot.
So yes, Crooked I should definitely defend Joe Budden. If I'm this mad just as a fan, I can only imagine how someone like Crooked I is feeling. Fucking bullshit.
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If it wasn't for Joey (and the rest of the guys) Crooked would still stand with 0 official albums on his C.V.
c style?
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true but thats more of a comp vs him bein on every single song (altho its only 1/4 of the project)
If it wasn't for Joey (and the rest of the guys) Crooked would still stand with 0 official albums on his C.V.
c style?
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I didn't see the incident, but I was at the show, and I'm just gonna state up front from a fan's perspective that what Raekwon and his people did fucked up the rest of the show.
Slaughterhouse had to go on the same time as Nas, which fucked them over in terms of getting a big crowd at their set, and at the same time their set was cut hella short because of the bullshit that went down. I for one was real hot that Slaughterhouse's set got delayed damn near 2 hours and cut short, and as a result of Raekwon's bullshit he didn't do his solo set and Tech N9ne had to go on 2 hours before his scheduled time to fill time because of Raekwon's madness, thus making me and most people miss Tech N9ne's set, on top of not getting to see any kind of Wu-Tang set.
All in all, I expected more from Raekwon being a seasoned vet and a pioneer, he didn't need to pull something like that, especially on someone like Budden in Crooked's backyard, Los Angeles.
The shit was squashed like a month ago between METHOD MAN, whom the problem was actually with, and BUDDEN himself. This shit had nothing to do with Raekwon. Very immature and selfish on his part, he fucked over a lot of fans yesterday with that bullshit.
I love Wu-Tang and all, but they should just be left off the LA leg of the tour next year. When it gets down to it, concerts like this are about the fans and we don't need that bullshit in an already hostile LA concert environment. Slaughterhouse deserved to be on the main stage, and hopefully next year they'll have their shot.
So yes, Crooked I should definitely defend Joe Budden. If I'm this mad just as a fan, I can only imagine how someone like Crooked I is feeling. Fucking bullshit.
gotta co-sign that..!
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I didn't see the incident, but I was at the show, and I'm just gonna state up front from a fan's perspective that what Raekwon and his people did fucked up the rest of the show.
Slaughterhouse had to go on the same time as Nas, which fucked them over in terms of getting a big crowd at their set, and at the same time their set was cut hella short because of the bullshit that went down. I for one was real hot that Slaughterhouse's set got delayed damn near 2 hours and cut short, and as a result of Raekwon's bullshit he didn't do his solo set and Tech N9ne had to go on 2 hours before his scheduled time to fill time because of Raekwon's madness, thus making me and most people miss Tech N9ne's set, on top of not getting to see any kind of Wu-Tang set.
All in all, I expected more from Raekwon being a seasoned vet and a pioneer, he didn't need to pull something like that, especially on someone like Budden in Crooked's backyard, Los Angeles.
The shit was squashed like a month ago between METHOD MAN, whom the problem was actually with, and BUDDEN himself. This shit had nothing to do with Raekwon. Very immature and selfish on his part, he fucked over a lot of fans yesterday with that bullshit.
I love Wu-Tang and all, but they should just be left off the LA leg of the tour next year. When it gets down to it, concerts like this are about the fans and we don't need that bullshit in an already hostile LA concert environment. Slaughterhouse deserved to be on the main stage, and hopefully next year they'll have their shot.
So yes, Crooked I should definitely defend Joe Budden. If I'm this mad just as a fan, I can only imagine how someone like Crooked I is feeling. Fucking bullshit.
I feel 'ya. That sucks buying tickets and getting f'd over like this. Though, you're contradicting yourself on the beef issue. Rae is a Wu member (Buddens dissed his brother, diss one/you diss them all). So, you're pissed about this, but expect Crook to stick up for Buddens?
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true but thats more of a comp vs him bein on every single song (altho its only 1/4 of the project)
If it wasn't for Joey (and the rest of the guys) Crooked would still stand with 0 official albums on his C.V.
c style?
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crooked was on damn near every song
except for 2 or 3 crappy ones
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true but we tryna get the closest to a real album wit as lil guests as possible but yeah i guess that counts dependin on who you ask
(and you already know people are gon say crooked should forever be thankful to joe/royce since they put him on and got his solo album released...if it ever gets released)
true but thats more of a comp vs him bein on every single song (altho its only 1/4 of the project)
If it wasn't for Joey (and the rest of the guys) Crooked would still stand with 0 official albums on his C.V.
c style?
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crooked was on damn near every song
except for 2 or 3 crappy ones
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This entire situation is a fucking satire...
1. Joe Budden's original comment wasn't even a straight diss. All he said and you can peep the og video is that he can outrap most of them on the list today, for example Method Man.
2. Instead, Method Man took it as a diss and starting talking like Budden fucked his bitch.
3. Rae and Busta start spouting off the mouth
4. Royce starts talking shit while Budden keeps up his video blogs.
5. some meditation occurs
6. some other bullshit from inspectah deck
7. it's deaded again
Then this shit which basically Raekwon and 3 to 5 other dudes run up on Budden in his personal vacinity. Someone punches Budden. Budden gets scared he's about to get his ass whooped apologizes and ya know the rest.
This is all jokes to me.
From the get go Budden shouldn't have apologized and there shouldn't have been a mediation. What Budden said was truth. If other rappers don't want to do their job then that's that. Now Budden's looking foolish with various members of Wu Tang (inspectah deck and raekown for his random acts of fuckery).
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for real im sayin why back down and give in when you consider yourself better than them?
(so you consider yourself better than them until they confront you?)
This entire situation is a fucking satire...
1. Joe Budden's original comment wasn't even a straight diss. All he said and you can peep the og video is that he can outrap most of them on the list today, for example Method Man.
2. Instead, Method Man took it as a diss and starting talking like Budden fucked his bitch.
3. Rae and Busta start spouting off the mouth
4. Royce starts talking shit while Budden keeps up his video blogs.
5. some meditation occurs
6. some other bullshit from inspectah deck
7. it's deaded again
Then this shit which basically Raekwon and 3 to 5 other dudes run up on Budden in his personal vacinity. Someone punches Budden. Budden gets scared he's about to get his ass whooped apologizes and ya know the rest.
This is all jokes to me.
From the get go Budden shouldn't have apologized and there shouldn't have been a mediation. What Budden said was truth. If other rappers don't want to do their job then that's that. Now Budden's looking foolish with various members of Wu Tang (inspectah deck and raekown for his random acts of fuckery).
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I didn't see the incident, but I was at the show, and I'm just gonna state up front from a fan's perspective that what Raekwon and his people did fucked up the rest of the show.
Slaughterhouse had to go on the same time as Nas, which fucked them over in terms of getting a big crowd at their set, and at the same time their set was cut hella short because of the bullshit that went down. I for one was real hot that Slaughterhouse's set got delayed damn near 2 hours and cut short, and as a result of Raekwon's bullshit he didn't do his solo set and Tech N9ne had to go on 2 hours before his scheduled time to fill time because of Raekwon's madness, thus making me and most people miss Tech N9ne's set, on top of not getting to see any kind of Wu-Tang set.
All in all, I expected more from Raekwon being a seasoned vet and a pioneer, he didn't need to pull something like that, especially on someone like Budden in Crooked's backyard, Los Angeles.
The shit was squashed like a month ago between METHOD MAN, whom the problem was actually with, and BUDDEN himself. This shit had nothing to do with Raekwon. Very immature and selfish on his part, he fucked over a lot of fans yesterday with that bullshit.
I love Wu-Tang and all, but they should just be left off the LA leg of the tour next year. When it gets down to it, concerts like this are about the fans and we don't need that bullshit in an already hostile LA concert environment. Slaughterhouse deserved to be on the main stage, and hopefully next year they'll have their shot.
So yes, Crooked I should definitely defend Joe Budden. If I'm this mad just as a fan, I can only imagine how someone like Crooked I is feeling. Fucking bullshit.
I feel 'ya. That sucks buying tickets and getting f'd over like this. Though, you're contradicting yourself on the beef issue. Rae is a Wu member (Buddens dissed his brother, diss one/you diss them all). So, you're pissed about this, but expect Crook to stick up for Buddens?
There's a difference between sticking up for someone and having someone sucker punched at a concert. When I said it had nothing to do with Raekwon, I was implying that it was merely a war of words, no shots had been fired. and to my knowledge it had been SQUASHED.
If Raekwon wanted to speak on it, more power to him, but making it a physical thing only makes this beef into something more serious, which is exactly what hip hop doesn't need. RZA, GZA, and Inspectah Deck were all there and didn't say a word to Budden. Why would Raekwon chose to do this? Especially when Raekwon is on songs with Crooked and was pumping Slaughterhouse on the Rock the Bells hype videos. It's some bullshit, and there was no reason for Raekwon to stick his nose in this deaded beef, especially when he took it to a physical level.
All in all, I kinda feel sorry for Joe Budden.
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for real im sayin why back down and give in when you consider yourself better than them?
(so you consider yourself better than them until they confront you?)
This entire situation is a fucking satire...
1. Joe Budden's original comment wasn't even a straight diss. All he said and you can peep the og video is that he can outrap most of them on the list today, for example Method Man.
2. Instead, Method Man took it as a diss and starting talking like Budden fucked his bitch.
3. Rae and Busta start spouting off the mouth
4. Royce starts talking shit while Budden keeps up his video blogs.
5. some meditation occurs
6. some other bullshit from inspectah deck
7. it's deaded again
Then this shit which basically Raekwon and 3 to 5 other dudes run up on Budden in his personal vacinity. Someone punches Budden. Budden gets scared he's about to get his ass whooped apologizes and ya know the rest.
This is all jokes to me.
From the get go Budden shouldn't have apologized and there shouldn't have been a mediation. What Budden said was truth. If other rappers don't want to do their job then that's that. Now Budden's looking foolish with various members of Wu Tang (inspectah deck and raekown for his random acts of fuckery).
I'm not sure where you're going but ... to my understanding, the reason no disses from Budden never occurred was out of respect to his peers in slaughterhouse. And, as far as my knowledge, Budden never ran off his mouth about being the best fighter or being the best goon and making it deeper than rap. All he said was he can outrap them. Again, he censored himself with the disses due to respect for his new group but the rest of the crap is all bullshit.
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homies suppose to hold each other down.so of course crooked suppose to ride with joe,if he a real nigga.and thats exactly what hes doing because he a real nigga
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If it wasn't for Joey (and the rest of the guys) Crooked would still stand with 0 official albums on his C.V.
c style?
Compilation?
Crooked is an integral part of Slaughterhouse.
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To add to the satire, this twitter page was launched yesterday
http://twitter.com/mousebuddenseye
a lot of quotables from that Twitter Page
Yo @PerezHilton...you got any tips on getting rid of a black eye? about 21 hours ago from web
My black eye gets more play than my music. Ain't that bout a bitch! about 22 hours ago from web
Don't expect for me to be a trending topic. I wasn't even a trendy rapper. about 22 hours ago from web
This is my first hit since "Pump It Up". about 22 hours ago from web
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but isnt that in a way bitchmade to speak up and go in on some og's and then not put it together to where meth, ins, rae, busta etc...can be like damn you know what damn we underestimated this duke buddens
he dope, and he might very well be better than this
but joe jus talked bout it
and on the side of rae doin what he did, if rae thinks he can take joe on, (physically or rappin wise) hes out to prove it, but IMO it looks like he did this to get respect somehow
damn they talkin mad shit bout buddens
for real im sayin why back down and give in when you consider yourself better than them?
(so you consider yourself better than them until they confront you?)
This entire situation is a fucking satire...
1. Joe Budden's original comment wasn't even a straight diss. All he said and you can peep the og video is that he can outrap most of them on the list today, for example Method Man.
2. Instead, Method Man took it as a diss and starting talking like Budden fucked his bitch.
3. Rae and Busta start spouting off the mouth
4. Royce starts talking shit while Budden keeps up his video blogs.
5. some meditation occurs
6. some other bullshit from inspectah deck
7. it's deaded again
Then this shit which basically Raekwon and 3 to 5 other dudes run up on Budden in his personal vacinity. Someone punches Budden. Budden gets scared he's about to get his ass whooped apologizes and ya know the rest.
This is all jokes to me.
From the get go Budden shouldn't have apologized and there shouldn't have been a mediation. What Budden said was truth. If other rappers don't want to do their job then that's that. Now Budden's looking foolish with various members of Wu Tang (inspectah deck and raekown for his random acts of fuckery).
I'm not sure where you're going but ... to my understanding, the reason no disses from Budden never occurred was out of respect to his peers in slaughterhouse. And, as far as my knowledge, Budden never ran off his mouth about being the best fighter or being the best goon and making it deeper than rap. All he said was he can outrap them. Again, he censored himself with the disses due to respect for his new group but the rest of the crap is all bullshit.
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I didn't see the incident, but I was at the show, and I'm just gonna state up front from a fan's perspective that what Raekwon and his people did fucked up the rest of the show.
Slaughterhouse had to go on the same time as Nas, which fucked them over in terms of getting a big crowd at their set, and at the same time their set was cut hella short because of the bullshit that went down. I for one was real hot that Slaughterhouse's set got delayed damn near 2 hours and cut short, and as a result of Raekwon's bullshit he didn't do his solo set and Tech N9ne had to go on 2 hours before his scheduled time to fill time because of Raekwon's madness, thus making me and most people miss Tech N9ne's set, on top of not getting to see any kind of Wu-Tang set.
All in all, I expected more from Raekwon being a seasoned vet and a pioneer, he didn't need to pull something like that, especially on someone like Budden in Crooked's backyard, Los Angeles.
The shit was squashed like a month ago between METHOD MAN, whom the problem was actually with, and BUDDEN himself. This shit had nothing to do with Raekwon. Very immature and selfish on his part, he fucked over a lot of fans yesterday with that bullshit.
I love Wu-Tang and all, but they should just be left off the LA leg of the tour next year. When it gets down to it, concerts like this are about the fans and we don't need that bullshit in an already hostile LA concert environment. Slaughterhouse deserved to be on the main stage, and hopefully next year they'll have their shot.
So yes, Crooked I should definitely defend Joe Budden. If I'm this mad just as a fan, I can only imagine how someone like Crooked I is feeling. Fucking bullshit.
c/s 100%,i was there last night as well and the sh fans got robbed. crooked and cob was riding with joe heavy last night and i dont see that changin. crook(the rest of sh) was still mad cool last night lettin me get a pic and choppin it up a lil bit and the cob camp is cool people too.
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I didn't see the incident, but I was at the show, and I'm just gonna state up front from a fan's perspective that what Raekwon and his people did fucked up the rest of the show.
Slaughterhouse had to go on the same time as Nas, which fucked them over in terms of getting a big crowd at their set, and at the same time their set was cut hella short because of the bullshit that went down. I for one was real hot that Slaughterhouse's set got delayed damn near 2 hours and cut short, and as a result of Raekwon's bullshit he didn't do his solo set and Tech N9ne had to go on 2 hours before his scheduled time to fill time because of Raekwon's madness, thus making me and most people miss Tech N9ne's set, on top of not getting to see any kind of Wu-Tang set.
All in all, I expected more from Raekwon being a seasoned vet and a pioneer, he didn't need to pull something like that, especially on someone like Budden in Crooked's backyard, Los Angeles.
The shit was squashed like a month ago between METHOD MAN, whom the problem was actually with, and BUDDEN himself. This shit had nothing to do with Raekwon. Very immature and selfish on his part, he fucked over a lot of fans yesterday with that bullshit.
I love Wu-Tang and all, but they should just be left off the LA leg of the tour next year. When it gets down to it, concerts like this are about the fans and we don't need that bullshit in an already hostile LA concert environment. Slaughterhouse deserved to be on the main stage, and hopefully next year they'll have their shot.
So yes, Crooked I should definitely defend Joe Budden. If I'm this mad just as a fan, I can only imagine how someone like Crooked I is feeling. Fucking bullshit.
I feel 'ya. That sucks buying tickets and getting f'd over like this. Though, you're contradicting yourself on the beef issue. Rae is a Wu member (Buddens dissed his brother, diss one/you diss them all). So, you're pissed about this, but expect Crook to stick up for Buddens?
There's a difference between sticking up for someone and having someone sucker punched at a concert. When I said it had nothing to do with Raekwon, I was implying that it was merely a war of words, no shots had been fired. and to my knowledge it had been SQUASHED.
If Raekwon wanted to speak on it, more power to him, but making it a physical thing only makes this beef into something more serious, which is exactly what hip hop doesn't need. RZA, GZA, and Inspectah Deck were all there and didn't say a word to Budden. Why would Raekwon chose to do this? Especially when Raekwon is on songs with Crooked and was pumping Slaughterhouse on the Rock the Bells hype videos. It's some bullshit, and there was no reason for Raekwon to stick his nose in this deaded beef, especially when he took it to a physical level.
All in all, I kinda feel sorry for Joe Budden.
word RZA was cool as fuck. he got the slaughterhouse and wu-tang chants goin durin HIS set. Rae seen joe alone and felt like superman for a second but got ghost when shit got thick
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but isnt that in a way bitchmade to speak up and go in on some og's and then not put it together to where meth, ins, rae, busta etc...can be like damn you know what damn we underestimated this duke buddens
he dope, and he might very well be better than this
but joe jus talked bout it
and on the side of rae doin what he did, if rae thinks he can take joe on, (physically or rappin wise) hes out to prove it, but IMO it looks like he did this to get respect somehow
damn they talkin mad shit bout buddens
for real im sayin why back down and give in when you consider yourself better than them?
(so you consider yourself better than them until they confront you?)
This entire situation is a fucking satire...
1. Joe Budden's original comment wasn't even a straight diss. All he said and you can peep the og video is that he can outrap most of them on the list today, for example Method Man.
2. Instead, Method Man took it as a diss and starting talking like Budden fucked his bitch.
3. Rae and Busta start spouting off the mouth
4. Royce starts talking shit while Budden keeps up his video blogs.
5. some meditation occurs
6. some other bullshit from inspectah deck
7. it's deaded again
Then this shit which basically Raekwon and 3 to 5 other dudes run up on Budden in his personal vacinity. Someone punches Budden. Budden gets scared he's about to get his ass whooped apologizes and ya know the rest.
This is all jokes to me.
From the get go Budden shouldn't have apologized and there shouldn't have been a mediation. What Budden said was truth. If other rappers don't want to do their job then that's that. Now Budden's looking foolish with various members of Wu Tang (inspectah deck and raekown for his random acts of fuckery).
I'm not sure where you're going but ... to my understanding, the reason no disses from Budden never occurred was out of respect to his peers in slaughterhouse. And, as far as my knowledge, Budden never ran off his mouth about being the best fighter or being the best goon and making it deeper than rap. All he said was he can outrap them. Again, he censored himself with the disses due to respect for his new group but the rest of the crap is all bullshit.
I think we disagree about how the Raekown situation.
But, I agree Budden was the one that commented on being able to ourap a lot of folks. He could've made a diss but instead he said if you take feelings, then diss me and we can prove it that way. Nobody did. That's why this is a big joke.
Really? This is worth fighting over?
I mean I didn't have any respect for Raekwon when he gave props to Rick Ross and said he was a legend. I sure in hell don't have any know.
I like Budden but now I just feel sad for dude. It's that feeling when you hear a friend got jumped and you wanted to be there to help him out but shit happens. A part of me thinks dude should give up the blog shit.
Basically, it's all pathetic and the end of day I could give more than a nuts fuck.
I'm a check Budden's music and the other members of Slaughterhouses. I'll check out if Masta Killah releases anything. I don't really feel anyone else from or affiliated with the Wu.
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poor guy i kinda feel bad for joe budden getting pussy on the rock the bells tour, and unbelievable promo for the fight that just occurred. poor guy
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fuck that, Joe Budden talks wayyy too much shit to not have anything done to him....he needs to learn from this and MOVE ON like the song says, and PLEASE, NO MORE MOUTH RUNNING ON VIDEO BLOGS, FUCKIN ATTENTION HOE
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fuck that, Joe Budden talks wayyy too much shit to not have anything done to him....he needs to learn from this and MOVE ON like the song says, and PLEASE, NO MORE MOUTH RUNNING ON VIDEO BLOGS, FUCKIN ATTENTION HOE
This isn't a shot @ you personally, but your sig of Pac reminded me of a similar situation that happened out in the Bay area years ago when Pac was alive. Shock G shared a story about Tim Dog coming out to do a show in the Bay and some goons had the venue surrounded. Apparently they weren't gonna let Tim Dog walk outta there without some sort of repercussion for all the shit talking he did on Compton.
Pac came to Tim Dog's rescue and told the Bay area goons to loosen their grip and give him a pass.
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yeah i feel you and good lookin on havin the debate and keepin it g'd up
me personally nowhere the biggest joe budden fan, more of a slaughthouse fan
and wu tang....well my favorite and the ones im always checkin for are
masta killa
gza
rza
raekwon is dope but he isnt as dope as he claims to be and he still can rap up to what gza can
(and him co-sginin rick ross deserves a beat down of its own...lol)
the rest arent doin it no more even tho they claim otherwise
but yeah i feel bad for joe cuz yeah he was talkin wit that gangsta talk but not sure if he was ready to get handed a beatdown of any kind on any level
but isnt that in a way bitchmade to speak up and go in on some og's and then not put it together to where meth, ins, rae, busta etc...can be like damn you know what damn we underestimated this duke buddens
he dope, and he might very well be better than this
but joe jus talked bout it
and on the side of rae doin what he did, if rae thinks he can take joe on, (physically or rappin wise) hes out to prove it, but IMO it looks like he did this to get respect somehow
damn they talkin mad shit bout buddens
for real im sayin why back down and give in when you consider yourself better than them?
(so you consider yourself better than them until they confront you?)
This entire situation is a fucking satire...
1. Joe Budden's original comment wasn't even a straight diss. All he said and you can peep the og video is that he can outrap most of them on the list today, for example Method Man.
2. Instead, Method Man took it as a diss and starting talking like Budden fucked his bitch.
3. Rae and Busta start spouting off the mouth
4. Royce starts talking shit while Budden keeps up his video blogs.
5. some meditation occurs
6. some other bullshit from inspectah deck
7. it's deaded again
Then this shit which basically Raekwon and 3 to 5 other dudes run up on Budden in his personal vacinity. Someone punches Budden. Budden gets scared he's about to get his ass whooped apologizes and ya know the rest.
This is all jokes to me.
From the get go Budden shouldn't have apologized and there shouldn't have been a mediation. What Budden said was truth. If other rappers don't want to do their job then that's that. Now Budden's looking foolish with various members of Wu Tang (inspectah deck and raekown for his random acts of fuckery).
I'm not sure where you're going but ... to my understanding, the reason no disses from Budden never occurred was out of respect to his peers in slaughterhouse. And, as far as my knowledge, Budden never ran off his mouth about being the best fighter or being the best goon and making it deeper than rap. All he said was he can outrap them. Again, he censored himself with the disses due to respect for his new group but the rest of the crap is all bullshit.
I think we disagree about how the Raekown situation.
But, I agree Budden was the one that commented on being able to ourap a lot of folks. He could've made a diss but instead he said if you take feelings, then diss me and we can prove it that way. Nobody did. That's why this is a big joke.
Really? This is worth fighting over?
I mean I didn't have any respect for Raekwon when he gave props to Rick Ross and said he was a legend. I sure in hell don't have any know.
I like Budden but now I just feel sad for dude. It's that feeling when you hear a friend got jumped and you wanted to be there to help him out but shit happens. A part of me thinks dude should give up the blog shit.
Basically, it's all pathetic and the end of day I could give more than a nuts fuck.
I'm a check Budden's music and the other members of Slaughterhouses. I'll check out if Masta Killah releases anything. I don't really feel anyone else from or affiliated with the Wu.
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yeah i feel you and good lookin on havin the debate and keepin it g'd up
me personally nowhere the biggest joe budden fan, more of a slaughthouse fan
and wu tang....well my favorite and the ones im always checkin for are
masta killa
gza
rza
raekwon is dope but he isnt as dope as he claims to be and he still can rap up to what gza can
(and him co-sginin rick ross deserves a beat down of its own...lol)
the rest arent doin it no more even tho they claim otherwise
but yeah i feel bad for joe cuz yeah he was talkin wit that gangsta talk but not sure if he was ready to get handed a beatdown of any kind on any lev
but isnt that in a way bitchmade to speak up and go in on some og's and then not put it together to where meth, ins, rae, busta etc...can be like damn you know what damn we underestimated this duke buddens
he dope, and he might very well be better than this
but joe jus talked bout it
and on the side of rae doin what he did, if rae thinks he can take joe on, (physically or rappin wise) hes out to prove it, but IMO it looks like he did this to get respect somehow
damn they talkin mad shit bout buddens
for real im sayin why back down and give in when you consider yourself better than them?
(so you consider yourself better than them until they confront you?)
This entire situation is a fucking satire...
1. Joe Budden's original comment wasn't even a straight diss. All he said and you can peep the og video is that he can outrap most of them on the list today, for example Method Man.
2. Instead, Method Man took it as a diss and starting talking like Budden fucked his bitch.
3. Rae and Busta start spouting off the mouth
4. Royce starts talking shit while Budden keeps up his video blogs.
5. some meditation occurs
6. some other bullshit from inspectah deck
7. it's deaded again
Then this shit which basically Raekwon and 3 to 5 other dudes run up on Budden in his personal vacinity. Someone punches Budden. Budden gets scared he's about to get his ass whooped apologizes and ya know the rest.
This is all jokes to me.
From the get go Budden shouldn't have apologized and there shouldn't have been a mediation. What Budden said was truth. If other rappers don't want to do their job then that's that. Now Budden's looking foolish with various members of Wu Tang (inspectah deck and raekown for his random acts of fuckery).
I'm not sure where you're going but ... to my understanding, the reason no disses from Budden never occurred was out of respect to his peers in slaughterhouse. And, as far as my knowledge, Budden never ran off his mouth about being the best fighter or being the best goon and making it deeper than rap. All he said was he can outrap them. Again, he censored himself with the disses due to respect for his new group but the rest of the crap is all bullshit.
I think we disagree about how the Raekown situation.
But, I agree Budden was the one that commented on being able to ourap a lot of folks. He could've made a diss but instead he said if you take feelings, then diss me and we can prove it that way. Nobody did. That's why this is a big joke.
Really? This is worth fighting over?
I mean I didn't have any respect for Raekwon when he gave props to Rick Ross and said he was a legend. I sure in hell don't have any know.
I like Budden but now I just feel sad for dude. It's that feeling when you hear a friend got jumped and you wanted to be there to help him out but shit happens. A part of me thinks dude should give up the blog shit.
Basically, it's all pathetic and the end of day I could give more than a nuts fuck.
I'm a check Budden's music and the other members of Slaughterhouses. I'll check out if Masta Killah releases anything. I don't really feel anyone else from or affiliated with the Wu.
U-God's Dopium is one of the best album's of the year
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I lost any respect I had for raekwon after this day and wont be buying his new album anymore,he doesnt deserve my money.Number one he fucked over the fans,thats not acceptable.He sticks his nose in a beef that was deaded and has nothing to do with him.He jumpes budden with some friends but then bounces before his set any case of any retaliation.People can dislike budden all they want but from a fan perspective of both these artists rae took an l for this.
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BUT HE DIDNT GET BEAT DOWN THO.......HE GOT ONE PUNCH, THATS IT, AND WHAT DOES HE DO? HE FUCKIN GOES ON HIS WEBCAM AGAIN AND TALKS ABOUT HOW MUCH HIS EYE AND SHOULDER HURTS......LIKE COME ON, WTF KINDA SHIT IS THAT??
HONESTLY, JOE STARTED ALL THIS, EVEN IF RAEKWON ACTED ILL BY LETTING ONE OF HIS GOONS PUNCH HIM, JOEY STARTED ALL THIS BY RUNNING HIS MOUTH ABOUT METH......NONE OF THIS WOULDVE HAPPENED IF JOEY DIDNT SAY ANYTHING
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i was thinkin of goin to the event but damn im glad i didnt spend 5 bills or however much i was gon spend
how did rae take the l when he didnt get jumped on? unless you mean he took the l for sucker punchin him?
I lost any respect I had for raekwon after this day and wont be buying his new album anymore,he doesnt deserve my money.Number one he fucked over the fans,thats not acceptable.He sticks his nose in a beef that was deaded and has nothing to do with him.He jumpes budden with some friends but then bounces before his set any case of any retaliation.People can dislike budden all they want but from a fan perspective of both these artists rae took an l for this.
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BUT HE DIDNT GET BEAT DOWN THO.......HE GOT ONE PUNCH, THATS IT, AND WHAT DOES HE DO? HE FUCKIN GOES ON HIS WEBCAM AGAIN AND TALKS ABOUT HOW MUCH HIS EYE AND SHOULDER HURTS......LIKE COME ON, WTF KINDA SHIT IS THAT??
HONESTLY, JOE STARTED ALL THIS, EVEN IF RAEKWON ACTED ILL BY LETTING ONE OF HIS GOONS PUNCH HIM, JOEY STARTED ALL THIS BY RUNNING HIS MOUTH ABOUT METH......NONE OF THIS WOULDVE HAPPENED IF JOEY DIDNT SAY ANYTHING
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true he ran his mouth but if he ran his mouth and what he was sayin accordin to him is true why is it a bad thing?
thats what im sayin if in fact he is a better rapper than method what does that have to do wit rae?
so if hes runnin his mouth about somethin thats true, or cryin bout it why does he need to get ran up on?
its A VS B so C will be next or never
so why cant joe and meth go at it lyrically and if it got physical then rae get in on it
but all joe said was that he was better in todays rankings....right?
BUT HE DIDNT GET BEAT DOWN THO.......HE GOT ONE PUNCH, THATS IT, AND WHAT DOES HE DO? HE FUCKIN GOES ON HIS WEBCAM AGAIN AND TALKS ABOUT HOW MUCH HIS EYE AND SHOULDER HURTS......LIKE COME ON, WTF KINDA SHIT IS THAT??
HONESTLY, JOE STARTED ALL THIS, EVEN IF RAEKWON ACTED ILL BY LETTING ONE OF HIS GOONS PUNCH HIM, JOEY STARTED ALL THIS BY RUNNING HIS MOUTH ABOUT METH......NONE OF THIS WOULDVE HAPPENED IF JOEY DIDNT SAY ANYTHING
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HONESTLY, JOE STARTED ALL THIS, EVEN IF RAEKWON ACTED ILL BY LETTING ONE OF HIS GOONS PUNCH HIM, JOEY STARTED ALL THIS BY RUNNING HIS MOUTH ABOUT METH......NONE OF THIS WOULDVE HAPPENED IF JOEY DIDNT SAY ANYTHING
which was supposed to be over at this point. but he caught feelings over a video made before the shit got squashed at jones beach. i really think he just seen the opportunity and capitalized tryin to make himself look gangster on cam and help ob4cl2 push some units.
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true he ran his mouth but if he ran his mouth and what he was sayin accordin to him is true why is it a bad thing?
thats what im sayin if in fact he is a better rapper than method what does that have to do wit rae?
so if hes runnin his mouth about somethin thats true, or cryin bout it why does he need to get ran up on?
its A VS B so C will be next or never
so why cant joe and meth go at it lyrically and if it got physical then rae get in on it
but all joe said was that he was better in todays rankings....right?
BUT HE DIDNT GET BEAT DOWN THO.......HE GOT ONE PUNCH, THATS IT, AND WHAT DOES HE DO? HE FUCKIN GOES ON HIS WEBCAM AGAIN AND TALKS ABOUT HOW MUCH HIS EYE AND SHOULDER HURTS......LIKE COME ON, WTF KINDA SHIT IS THAT??
HONESTLY, JOE STARTED ALL THIS, EVEN IF RAEKWON ACTED ILL BY LETTING ONE OF HIS GOONS PUNCH HIM, JOEY STARTED ALL THIS BY RUNNING HIS MOUTH ABOUT METH......NONE OF THIS WOULDVE HAPPENED IF JOEY DIDNT SAY ANYTHING
okay, there's nothing wrong with thinking you're better than the next rapper, im sure ALL rappers feel that, but yet, nobody but Joey pops his mouth off like that, why?? cuz, its out of respect, just cuz you think you're better than somebody else dont mean youre gonna PUBLICLY call the rapper out and say you're way better, thats straight up disrespectful....im sorry, i cant fuck with that, and i will never raise my kids to run their mouths like that, this guy musta never got his ass kicked by his father for talking back.....
secondly.....if what Rae said is true, then he had no intentions of beating Joey up, I mean seriously, who the fuck punches a guy once and leaves?? If Rae had ill intentions, IM POSITIVE JOEY WOULDA BEEN FUCKED UP, I mean come on, its 6 against 1, yet they only throw one punch?? I really think Rae had intentions on just confronting him about a video, then Joey, being the fuckface that he is, probably said some slick shit, which made one of Rae's goons mad.....the goon punched him, Rae said fuck that, and they all bounced....im not sure but thats what it sounds like
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Don't matter what reason Raekwon had for trying to mob in on one dude.
As has been stated, this beef was dead. Rock the Bells prides themselves on being a "peaceful rap concert tour". Multiple acts, including Ice Cube himself, were preaching peace all throughout the tour. Handle this shit on your own, Raekwon. Don't take it upon yourself to be a big bad ass at a tour when you know there's 50,000 plus fans paying their money to see this show.
Regardless of what kind of spin is placed on it, yesterday's show was for the FANS, not the rappers, and Raekwon pulled a bitch move by fucking over the fans in multiple ways.
Another dude here said it best, Rae is trying to get some extra pub for his upcoming album.
I've seen the footage and Budden did not say anything violent or slick on the stuff that started this whole "beef". All he did was say "is there really fans that think Method Man can outrap me if he were standing in front of me"....and he didn't only mention Method Man, he mentioned multiple artists.
To spin that into some "you dissing Wu-Tang" type shit is childish and stupid. If Method Man himself didn't get upset to the point to confront Budden physically, then by God there is no reason for Rae to try to turn into Billy Badass.
Sad part is, I'm just as big a fan of Wu as any other group that's ever stepped in rap. But Rae showed that even as seasoned vets, they can stoop to childish shit. Confronting a rapper that's part of a group signed to little ass KOCH and hasn't even dropped an album yet. I'm sorry, but if Wu was smart, they wouldn't have even acknowledged Slaughterhouse.
Look at all the press this debacle has started, giving Slaughterhouse and Joe Budden/Crooked I free press EVERYWHERE.
Almost seems like a rookie mistake on Raekwon's part.
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yall bitch asses need to stop neg repping forreal.....
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Crooked addressing the situation from the stage. http://www.kaltura.com/index.php/kwidget/wid/zkv13n37k8/uiconf_id/66102
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Damn...I guess all the Budden support is cause of the Slaughterhouse/Crooked connection....It's nice that most of you think hip hop/rap whatever you want to call it is over here and the streets is over there somewhere but hip hop is the damn streets...Most rappers may not be gangstas but most are from the hood in some way or form. Run your damn mouth enough and this is what happens but bitches like Budden think that the internet has provided a safe place to run your mouth and not face the consequences.. Shit could have been worse, much worse considering how much dude pops off...I am not condoning Rae, The Wu or anyone for what happened but maybe rappers will stop hiding behind the internet and realize that shit is still real. You are still dealing with dudes from the streets. My thing is, just go back to making good music if you are a rapper/MC whatever...i don't need to know how Joey Buddens feels about someone elses rap rankings especially when you have only one damn hit record your whole career. Rae does not have a personal history of this type shit but Budden knows the Wu as a group will confront that ass and he was still talkin shit even after shit was squashed. I hope Crook does not waste time trying to support this clown...All the members of Slaughter have been overlooked, unsigned, underrated and now have the chance to shine and make some good music for the fans....Either Buddens gets with the program (fuck alll the blogging) or they need to kick dude to the curb. It's the last chance for all these dudes.
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It really is a give or take situation and that's why I think the entire thing is pathetic.
Don't get me wrong about the Wu. I recognize their role historically and think plenty of them still come correct. I'll be the first to admit I haven't peeped all the project they've released. For example, some one mentioned U-God's recent effort and I don't know how it is because I haven't listened to it.
I know out of the many releases I've heard both of Masta Killah's cds are the shit and get multiple spins. Everyone should take a note from him and be more lowkey.
Budden needs to lay off the talk about being better and just diss everyone or not worry about it. Rae needs to focus on his own self. Everyone needs to grow up and stop acting so emotional.
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I'm a big Wu fan but who ever said Wu has influence on the west has lost they mind or isn't from the dubb. The Wu has respect, yup but no real influence. Suge probably has more influence still on the coast than Wu lol. That's not a diss but juss a pic of who has what connections. But I lose respect for muthafuccaz who pull shit like that though. Only pussy niggaz who can't throw blows don't fight one on one, especially when shit is supposed to be squashed over a month ago.
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nah I think some were sayin that we has its westcoast team or westcoast rappers that are down wit the wu like black knights who can spit
some consider black knights better than others favorite rapper or even "some of the better/best rappers"
I'm a big Wu fan but who ever said Wu has influence on the west has lost they mind or isn't from the dubb. The Wu has respect, yup but no real influence. Suge probably has more influence still on the coast than Wu lol. That's not a diss but juss a pic of who has what connections. But I lose respect for muthafuccaz who pull shit like that though. Only pussy niggaz who can't throw blows don't fight one on one, especially when shit is supposed to be squashed over a month ago.
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lol .alot of you guys don't seem to understand the mentality of some people. When you disrespect some one and there apart of a click be prepared to have something come your way of its from the person or one of his boys.
I remember a few years back when I was chilling at a bar. This guy I know came up to me and asked were my boy Leo was, when I asked why he said he was going to knock him out. Then I str8 knocked him out for talking shit.
Joe Buddens got a big mouth and deserves what he gets.
Yeah they so called squashed the beef before but then they do some bullshit like putting that skit on the album that wasn't proper.
As far as the WU goes thats one click that ain't nuttin to fuck with.
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Personally, my opinion is that yeah, he should stick up for Joe Budden. If he believes in Slaughterhouse the group, and Slaughterhouse the movement, then I think he absolutely should. And I think that includes cutting the Raekwon track from "Pig Face, Weapon Waist." I know a lot of you on here disagree with me, but how is it going to look if Crooked keeps Raekwon on his e.p., after this? That doesn't really send the message that Slaughterhouse is a cohesive unit. I mean, unless Crooked I wants to be done with Slaughterhouse after the first album, and just move on to solo stuff. Then maybe it doesn't matter so much.
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he got that inked on his arm
they havent even released the album yet...lol
Personally, my opinion is that yeah, he should stick up for Joe Budden. If he believes in Slaughterhouse the group, and Slaughterhouse the movement, then I think he absolutely should. And I think that includes cutting the Raekwon track from "Pig Face, Weapon Waist." I know a lot of you on here disagree with me, but how is it going to look if Crooked keeps Raekwon on his e.p., after this? That doesn't really send the message that Slaughterhouse is a cohesive unit. I mean, unless Crooked I wants to be done with Slaughterhouse after the first album, and just move on to solo stuff. Then maybe it doesn't matter so much.
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he got that inked on his arm
they havent even released the album yet...lol
Personally, my opinion is that yeah, he should stick up for Joe Budden. If he believes in Slaughterhouse the group, and Slaughterhouse the movement, then I think he absolutely should. And I think that includes cutting the Raekwon track from "Pig Face, Weapon Waist." I know a lot of you on here disagree with me, but how is it going to look if Crooked keeps Raekwon on his e.p., after this? That doesn't really send the message that Slaughterhouse is a cohesive unit. I mean, unless Crooked I wants to be done with Slaughterhouse after the first album, and just move on to solo stuff. Then maybe it doesn't matter so much.
Lol...That's what I'm sayin' man. If this truly is an actual group and a movement, then of course he should stick up for the other members of the group.
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If anyone is going to quit slaughterhouse or abandon the group it will probably be Joell Ortiz.
When it comes to beef he's quieter than a mouse....which isn't a bad thing because too many folks talk too much.
I doubt anyone has any plans on leaving the group soon.
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Fuck it Crooked should defend him man, no matter what. If someone punches out one of my people id be pissed as fuck too.
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If anyone is going to quit slaughterhouse or abandon the group it will probably be Joell Ortiz.
When it comes to beef he's quieter than a mouse....which isn't a bad thing because too many folks talk too much.
Wise man, why fuck up industry connections just because of some stupid shit that don't even concern you.
Ortiz propably drinkin and having fun with the females while other members are heated, lol. :laugh:
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Man this whole beef thing is stupid. But I think Crooked should defend his boy Joey, thats just disrespectful to say "Yea we can make music together s A group, but I ain't gonna ride with u"
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Crooked should be riding for Budden, and he is.
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Crooked should just do him the situation was about joe buddens running his mouth,it wasn't a slaughterhouse thing. But if he wants to play big bad ass he will lose too. Remember the way he made it look when he JUST GOT SHOT AT????? Lmao he need to stick to rapping
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No he shouldnt cause joey is a fuckin pussy who talks alot of shit and he talked shit to the wrong people talk shit to saigon or game or any1 of these bitch boys he had beef with cause they all fake but when u get outta pocket with the WU its a different stoy and they got a track record of this shit he got SONNED so take the L and keep it movin cause in all honesty rae and them dudes could of killed joey but they just smacked him around like a bitch and crook dont want NO PART of the WU! he got up on stage and said nobody gonna disrespect my boy on the westcoast guess what they already did! that is what im tryin to say the WU dont talk they gettin poppin while all these other rappers talk that tuff talk the wu really live it and crooked is my dude one of the best period but he needs to fall back with this one!
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No. I think he should disrespect him on Twitter and tell Joey that he has no sympathy for men who cry on Ustream.
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I heard Budden didn't even fight back and he apologized lol hell naw Crooked shouldn't defend that nigga. He need to stop runnin his mouth if he don't want no funk.
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The fact is, all of Slaughterhouse, including Crooked I defended Joe's original statement that he could out rap Methodman. That being the case, I don't see why he wouldn't defend him now. I'll agree that the original statement was a pretty bold statement for Joe to make. But Joe didn't physically assault anyone. He apologized to Methodman for what he said. That really should have been the end of it. Now that someone in Methodman's entourage punched Joe Budden, I think everyone in Slaughterhouse has to support their fellow group member. No one will take the group seriously if they don't.
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The fact is, all of Slaughterhouse, including Crooked I defended Joe's original statement that he could out rap Methodman. That being the case, I don't see why he wouldn't defend him now. I'll agree that the original statement was a pretty bold statement for Joe to make. But Joe didn't physically assault anyone. He apologized to Methodman for what he said. That really should have been the end of it. Now that someone in Methodman's entourage punched Joe Budden, I think everyone in Slaughterhouse has to support their fellow group member. No one will take the group seriously if they don't.
If Joey said he'd beat the dog shit outta Meth then I'd agree with you but it was a lyrical challenge. Something that has been a part of Hip Hop since it's birth and the only way Crooked should defend him is on wax 'cause the word is that he didn't attempt to defend himself. Crooked ain't no damn super hero his ass would get rushed the same way so this nigga is not going to save the day if he jumps to Budden's defense.
I don't understand why it came to this conclusion(if this is the end of it) when both are good lyricists and could battle it out on some real shit.
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budden going hard at that nigga now
check worldstar
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The fact is, all of Slaughterhouse, including Crooked I defended Joe's original statement that he could out rap Methodman. That being the case, I don't see why he wouldn't defend him now. I'll agree that the original statement was a pretty bold statement for Joe to make. But Joe didn't physically assault anyone. He apologized to Methodman for what he said. That really should have been the end of it. Now that someone in Methodman's entourage punched Joe Budden, I think everyone in Slaughterhouse has to support their fellow group member. No one will take the group seriously if they don't.
You have a good point
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Hell naw....Crook shouldn't even be fuckin wit dude....everybody knows Joey's a hoe ass nigga....but on the real he should mind his business a nd focus on the music....He's close to gettin on and anything that happens on a street level can fuck him up.
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The fact is, all of Slaughterhouse, including Crooked I defended Joe's original statement that he could out rap Methodman. That being the case, I don't see why he wouldn't defend him now. I'll agree that the original statement was a pretty bold statement for Joe to make. But Joe didn't physically assault anyone. He apologized to Methodman for what he said. That really should have been the end of it. Now that someone in Methodman's entourage punched Joe Budden, I think everyone in Slaughterhouse has to support their fellow group member. No one will take the group seriously if they don't.
If Joey said he'd beat the dog shit outta Meth then I'd agree with you but it was a lyrical challenge. Something that has been a part of Hip Hop since it's birth and the only way Crooked should defend him is on wax 'cause the word is that he didn't attempt to defend himself. Crooked ain't no damn super hero his ass would get rushed the same way so this nigga is not going to save the day if he jumps to Budden's defense.
I don't understand why it came to this conclusion(if this is the end of it) when both are good lyricists and could battle it out on some real shit.
To clarify, I thought that the question posed in the thread was referring to Crooked I defending Joe on wax. But I guess, now that you raised the point, it could also refer to whether or not Crooked I should defend Joe Budden in a potential physical altercation. When I was raising my earlier points, I meant that Crooked I should defend Joe Budden on wax or in a moral support type of situation (publicly condemning Raekwon's actions etc.)
I didn't mean that it was Crooked I's responsibility to take on Raekwon's entourage in a physical fight. I think whether or not Crooked I should get involved in something like that would depend on the specifics of the altercation. If Raekwon would be willing to face Joe Budden one-on-one, then I don't think anyone else should get involved, on either side. But if a situation were to arise where Crooked I could help Joe Budden from getting jumped by multiple people, and it was reasonable to do so, yeah he should help.
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The fact is, all of Slaughterhouse, including Crooked I defended Joe's original statement that he could out rap Methodman. That being the case, I don't see why he wouldn't defend him now. I'll agree that the original statement was a pretty bold statement for Joe to make. But Joe didn't physically assault anyone. He apologized to Methodman for what he said. That really should have been the end of it. Now that someone in Methodman's entourage punched Joe Budden, I think everyone in Slaughterhouse has to support their fellow group member. No one will take the group seriously if they don't.
If Joey said he'd beat the dog shit outta Meth then I'd agree with you but it was a lyrical challenge. Something that has been a part of Hip Hop since it's birth and the only way Crooked should defend him is on wax 'cause the word is that he didn't attempt to defend himself. Crooked ain't no damn super hero his ass would get rushed the same way so this nigga is not going to save the day if he jumps to Budden's defense.
I don't understand why it came to this conclusion(if this is the end of it) when both are good lyricists and could battle it out on some real shit.
To clarify, I thought that the question posed in the thread was referring to Crooked I defending Joe on wax. But I guess, now that you raised the point, it could also refer to whether or not Crooked I should defend Joe Budden in a potential physical altercation. When I was raising my earlier points, I meant that Crooked I should defend Joe Budden on wax or in a moral support type of situation (publicly condemning Raekwon's actions etc.)
I didn't mean that it was Crooked I's responsibility to take on Raekwon's entourage in a physical fight. I think whether or not Crooked I should get involved in something like that would depend on the specifics of the altercation. If Raekwon would be willing to face Joe Budden one-on-one, then I don't think anyone else should get involved, on either side. But if a situation were to arise where Crooked I could help Joe Budden from getting jumped by multiple people, and it was reasonable to do so, yeah he should help.
Got'cha!
I assumed it was physically due to the question being raised after Budden got into a physical confrontation.
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so to sum up this beef, Crooked takes another L
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raekwon#Joe_Budden_Altercation
ROFL look at the end line
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LOL that shit made me laugh out loud
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no, he needs to drop his EP with Raekwan on it as planned and ignore that whole incident because Joey shouldn't have been running his mouth.
Exactly. Didn't know Raekwon will be featured on it though.
yes sir < no pun intended omg lol haahahahahahhahahaha