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Title: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: ICHI THE KILLER on August 11, 2009, 08:17:19 AM
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6603/escaperoutecoverart.jpg)

01. Intro
02. Anti
03. Never Again
04. World Keep Spinnin’
05. Forgive Me
06. State of You
07. Good Enough
08. No Comment
09. We Outta Here feat. Slaughterhouse
10. Clothes on a Mannequin
11. Freight Train
12. Connect 4 feat. Young Chris
13. Tito Santana (Bonus)
14. For You (Bonus)


just leaked gonna
listen now  :)
dont expect anything special as JB is quite boring and not capable to pick up good beats  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Booz on August 11, 2009, 08:24:48 AM
I like it. He is good but for some reason gets raped on almost every Slaughterhouse song, must be his delivery.  :laugh:
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Post by: Action! on August 11, 2009, 08:42:08 AM
He comes correct lyrically so I'm not going to speak on that but his production has improved since Padded Room but the vocals don't sound like they're mixed properly. 

There's some bad beats, some decent ones, and some good ones.

The ad-libs like he's a dj are annoying.

Though it's better mastered than Padded Room, he still needs better mixing and mastering.
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Post by: SO PRUP on August 11, 2009, 09:25:31 AM
someone pm me a link
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Post by: hellrazor86 on August 11, 2009, 09:33:45 AM
reminds me a lot of padded room.. same guy mixed this shit?
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Post by: JohnnyL on August 11, 2009, 09:36:59 AM
 Purchased this, this morning.  Didn't really know what to expect from it, but it's a pretty solid release.  The production on it sounds pretty good to me.  Budden's verses sound pretty nice on here as well.  I've not listened to a lot of Budden's other releases, but I'm starting to think that he's better as a solo artist.  At any rate, overall, the album  delivers.  Also, I wasn't expecting Royce Da 5'9 to appear on "For You," so that was a pleasant surprise.  
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 11, 2009, 09:49:52 AM
not trying to compare this to Me Against The World, haven't even listened to it yet.

but see, this is why albums in the Me Against The World days were all concidered perfect classics.

complaining about quality? i haven't listened, but it can't be that bad; i didn't hear anything on Padded Room that was like "WOW, THAT QUALITY/MIXING WAS AWFUL".

things like that are going to take away from the album? c'mon now lol.

downloading now...
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Booz on August 11, 2009, 09:59:06 AM
not trying to compare this to Me Against The World, haven't even listened to it yet.

but see, this is why albums in the Me Against The World days were all concidered perfect classics.

complaining about quality? i haven't listened, but it can't be that bad; i didn't hear anything on Padded Room that was like "WOW, THAT QUALITY/MIXING WAS AWFUL".

things like that are going to take away from the album? c'mon now lol.

downloading now...
Well Buddens solo records always sound like the vocals are too far  if you know what I mean.
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Post by: lucasfrenay on August 11, 2009, 10:14:08 AM
Production Credits:

Never Again (Produced by Jared F.)
World Keeps Spinning
Forgive Me (Produced by Jared F.)
State Of You (Produced by Jared F.)
Good Enough (Produced by Jared F.)
No Comment (Produced By J. Cardim)
We Outta Here (feat. Royce Da 5'9", Joell Ortiz & Crooked I) (Produced by StreetRunner)
Clothes On A Mannequin (Produced by J. Cardim)
Freight Train (Produced by Jared F.)
Connect Four (feat. Young Chris)
Tito Santana (feat. Wale) (Produced by 9th Wonder) [BONUS]
For You [BONUS]
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 11, 2009, 10:17:19 AM
not trying to compare this to Me Against The World, haven't even listened to it yet.

but see, this is why albums in the Me Against The World days were all concidered perfect classics.

complaining about quality? i haven't listened, but it can't be that bad; i didn't hear anything on Padded Room that was like "WOW, THAT QUALITY/MIXING WAS AWFUL".

things like that are going to take away from the album? c'mon now lol.

downloading now...
Well Buddens solo records always sound like the vocals are too far  if you know what I mean.

i get what you're saying; lemme bump it though.

i just don't like hearing complaints on such small shit that wasn't even a factor in grading albums from back in the day, naww mean?
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Post by: dj Hurricane on August 11, 2009, 10:21:10 AM
Link Local HMV Never Heard Of This Got The Slaughterhouse Album Tho
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Post by: Meho on August 11, 2009, 11:03:20 AM
It depends on how much it bothers you but personally I can't stand the album if the mixing is not proper. That's why Dre is my favorite producer and that's why I tend to like Aftermath affiliated projects; the sound is so clean and polished.
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 11, 2009, 11:07:35 AM
It depends on how much it bothers you but personally I can't stand the album if the mixing is not proper. That's why Dre is my favorite producer and that's why I tend to like Aftermath affiliated projects; the sound is so clean and polished.

you're right in that aspect.

i guess it just doesn't bother me too bad to the point i can't listen to is.

anyway, just went through the album one time & i think it's amazing; regardless of how biased you think my opinon is, i think it's right up their with his other projects, hence why i like it.

i don't know if i could go as far as saying it's better than Padded Room, but after a few more listens i might be able to say it's close to it.
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Post by: Action! on August 11, 2009, 11:10:10 AM
Cham Click, that's a really stupid comment by you.

Seriously, I'm listening to music.  I'm not just listening to Budden rapping.  He could just write poetry instead if that's all there was to it.  

Complaints about the sound of the music are legitimate unless they're absurd.  If a drum sounds like tin cans when they should sound like an explosion, it's bad.  That's not a good thing.

Now it seems I'm saying budden's padded room was complete trash which i'm not but it sounds very much like an underground release.  I mean the perfect example is comparing the same tracks Maino used.  His beats sounded that much better because they were properly mixed and mastered.

There is a way to sound deliberate dirty and grimy without sounding like it was poorly mixed and mastered.  
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 11, 2009, 11:31:39 AM
Cham Click, that's a really stupid comment by you.

Seriously, I'm listening to music.  I'm not just listening to Budden rapping.  He could just write poetry instead if that's all there was to it.  

Complaints about the sound of the music are legitimate unless they're absurd.  If a drum sounds like tin cans when they should sound like an explosion, it's bad.  That's not a good thing.

Now it seems I'm saying budden's padded room was complete trash which i'm not but it sounds very much like an underground release.  I mean the perfect example is comparing the same tracks Maino used.  His beats sounded that much better because they were properly mixed and mastered.

There is a way to sound deliberate dirty and grimy without sounding like it was poorly mixed and mastered.  

it's never been so bad or so blatantly obvious i said to myself "wow, that's fucking terrible".

that's all, i don't think it's a make or break the album type of thing, unless it's hands down AWFUL, which i don't believe it is.

matter of opinion.
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Post by: Hatesrats™ on August 11, 2009, 11:31:58 AM
About halfway through it.
Dope sofar...

Anyone else notice how The Slaughter's are all starting to sound alike?
(I can hear all their flows on certain tracks)

Defo a good thing, Not mad at that.

EDIT: Just finished the entire album I must say!!!  8)
I like it, Will defo be spinning this for a while.
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Post by: RingMan on August 11, 2009, 01:41:00 PM
that Requiem for a Dream sample in Intro is dope 8)
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Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 11, 2009, 01:58:10 PM
that Requiem for a Dream sample in Intro is dope 8)

could be the best cut off the album lol.

not dissing the album at all, but the Intro is just so sick lyrically & "beatally". ;D
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Action! on August 11, 2009, 05:47:29 PM
Cham Click, that's a really stupid comment by you.

Seriously, I'm listening to music.  I'm not just listening to Budden rapping.  He could just write poetry instead if that's all there was to it.  

Complaints about the sound of the music are legitimate unless they're absurd.  If a drum sounds like tin cans when they should sound like an explosion, it's bad.  That's not a good thing.

Now it seems I'm saying budden's padded room was complete trash which i'm not but it sounds very much like an underground release.  I mean the perfect example is comparing the same tracks Maino used.  His beats sounded that much better because they were properly mixed and mastered.

There is a way to sound deliberate dirty and grimy without sounding like it was poorly mixed and mastered.  

it's never been so bad or so blatantly obvious i said to myself "wow, that's fucking terrible".

that's all, i don't think it's a make or break the album type of thing, unless it's hands down AWFUL, which i don't believe it is.

matter of opinion.

Yeah, yeah.  It took me a while to adjust to Budden's music.   When I hear a remix by Kickdrums and then compare it to his og work, I end up shaking my head.
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Post by: Action! on August 11, 2009, 06:20:47 PM
here's a somewhat mastered version by a fan, it's a smaller file size but already sounds somewhat better

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L7CCBYXV
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 11, 2009, 07:29:26 PM
ER > HH > PR

This is what Mood Muzik 3 shoulda been...
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 11, 2009, 07:39:05 PM
ER > HH > PR

This is what Mood Muzik 3 shoulda been...

that's a strong claim; i really respect that opinon though.

Joe sounds angry on almost every track, givin' real substance here.

definatly better than Halfway House, but i was on the fence about it being better than Padded Room.

i've bumped it four times already today, bumping it again as i type lol; a few more spins & we might have a clear cut winner here. :P

is it just me or is the Intro out of this world compared to most rap? :laugh:
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Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 11, 2009, 08:10:56 PM
ER > HH > PR

This is what Mood Muzik 3 shoulda been...

that's a strong claim; i really respect that opinon though.

Joe sounds angry on almost every track, givin' real substance here.

definatly better than Halfway House, but i was on the fence about it being better than Padded Room.

i've bumped it four times already today, bumping it again as i type lol; a few more spins & we might have a clear cut winner here. :P

is it just me or is the Intro out of this world compared to most rap? :laugh:

Lol yeah basically..  I love whenever that song is sampled.. 

If you take away the last 3 tracks, (2 of them bonuses) I can listen to this all the way through..  This is the kinda music I want from Joe.  No long ass tracks either...  I think what you said about Joe being hungry on every track makes this better than PR.  Some of the songs were good, but the rest I didn't get the energy I wanted..  I heard Joe is gonna remaster this??  So I won't comment on the mastering..

Good shit.
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 11, 2009, 08:33:59 PM
ER > HH > PR

This is what Mood Muzik 3 shoulda been...

that's a strong claim; i really respect that opinon though.

Joe sounds angry on almost every track, givin' real substance here.

definatly better than Halfway House, but i was on the fence about it being better than Padded Room.

i've bumped it four times already today, bumping it again as i type lol; a few more spins & we might have a clear cut winner here. :P

is it just me or is the Intro out of this world compared to most rap? :laugh:

Lol yeah basically..  I love whenever that song is sampled.. 

If you take away the last 3 tracks, (2 of them bonuses) I can listen to this all the way through..  This is the kinda music I want from Joe.  No long ass tracks either...  I think what you said about Joe being hungry on every track makes this better than PR.  Some of the songs were good, but the rest I didn't get the energy I wanted..  I heard Joe is gonna remaster this??  So I won't comment on the mastering..

Good shit.

my only true complaint is that Anti was hyped up to be this huge song & it was about a verse of something new & the rest was word for word from his Death of Autotune Freestyle. :-\

i didn't hear about him remastering it, but i'll definatly give that a peep to see if i hear any major improvments in sound.

my thing is, he's getting better with each release; i can only imagine what Great Escape is going to be. :o

he's drawn a model for how i want it to sound with this disc; i just want a little something more & for it to drop this year (not happening). :P

if it were to make a late Decemeber release though, that would be four albums dropped by Joey in one year, including the Slaughterhouse album. :o
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Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 11, 2009, 08:49:03 PM
Yeah, he's putting in work, but not Lil Wayning it either.. 

It really shows that Joe should be on a major..  If he had the budget at his disposal to get the equipment/producers...  Imagine some of these beats mastered so much better, and maybe live instrumentation added to them..  His vocals sounding crystal clear..   Self-titled had 3 gems, and where he's at now with his songwriting, I bet he could put out a real good album the second time around.

Until then, or if that doesn't happen, I'm more than happy with these type of releases.
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Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 11, 2009, 08:57:47 PM
Yeah, he's putting in work, but not Lil Wayning it either.. 

It really shows that Joe should be on a major..  If he had the budget at his disposal to get the equipment/producers...  Imagine some of these beats mastered so much better, and maybe live instrumentation added to them..  His vocals sounding crystal clear..   Self-titled had 3 gems, and where he's at now with his songwriting, I bet he could put out a real good album the second time around.

Until then, or if that doesn't happen, I'm more than happy with these type of releases.

co-sign the entire statement. 8)
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Post by: MoodMuzik on August 11, 2009, 08:59:13 PM
Yeah, he's putting in work, but not Lil Wayning it either.. 

It really shows that Joe should be on a major..  If he had the budget at his disposal to get the equipment/producers...  Imagine some of these beats mastered so much better, and maybe live instrumentation added to them..  His vocals sounding crystal clear..   Self-titled had 3 gems, and where he's at now with his songwriting, I bet he could put out a real good album the second time around.

Until then, or if that doesn't happen, I'm more than happy with these type of releases.
he got live instruments on great escape...gunna sound sick
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Post by: D-Nice on August 11, 2009, 09:07:31 PM
Yeah, he's putting in work, but not Lil Wayning it either.. 

It really shows that Joe should be on a major..  If he had the budget at his disposal to get the equipment/producers...  Imagine some of these beats mastered so much better, and maybe live instrumentation added to them..  His vocals sounding crystal clear..   Self-titled had 3 gems, and where he's at now with his songwriting, I bet he could put out a real good album the second time around.

Until then, or if that doesn't happen, I'm more than happy with these type of releases.

co-sign the entire statement. 8)
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Action! on August 11, 2009, 09:42:53 PM
I agree with all the opinions expressed.  He deserves to have the funding of a major label.  It seems he got blackballed due to Jay-Z.

I got into this lame ass argument with a Game stan about how Game doesn't have the right to diss Jay-Z unlike someone like Budden who's career got fucked over sideways for a minute.  Yet, Budden still gives Jay his props where as a bitch ass lame like Game just disses him.  I hate that mutherfucka.

I keep saying this but I expect the Great Escape to be the bomb.   Budden's masterpiece till date.  If it's not, if it's anything less than amazing I will be disappointed.  From the sound of it, he'll be fucking with some dope producers which is what he's been missing.

He just needs to make a hot single.   A lot of his fans will probably look down on that statement but boy needs a song that he can present to the world.  If I had to choose a single for Escape Route it would be Freight Train. 

I want a track of just him and Joell trading verses like the minor glimpse we got to see on The One.
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Post by: MoodMuzik on August 11, 2009, 09:49:34 PM
I agree with all the opinions expressed.  He deserves to have the funding of a major label.  It seems he got blackballed due to Jay-Z.

I got into this lame ass argument with a Game stan about how Game doesn't have the right to diss Jay-Z unlike someone like Budden who's career got fucked over sideways for a minute.  Yet, Budden still gives Jay his props where as a bitch ass lame like Game just disses him.  I hate that mutherfucka.

I keep saying this but I expect the Great Escape to be the bomb.   Budden's masterpiece till date.  If it's not, if it's anything less than amazing I will be disappointed.  From the sound of it, he'll be fucking with some dope producers which is what he's been missing.

He just needs to make a hot single.   A lot of his fans will probably look down on that statement but boy needs a song that he can present to the world.  If I had to choose a single for Escape Route it would be Freight Train. 

I want a track of just him and Joell trading verses like the minor glimpse we got to see on The One.
listen to modern warfare...him n joell at there finest
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 12, 2009, 03:46:20 AM
Just downloaded it now.Downloaded the mastered version as well.Im going to bump both in my dre headphones see how much of a difference their is
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Post by: Jaydc555 on August 12, 2009, 05:14:34 AM
Alright i bumped the both the version joe dropped and the version the fan re mastered.The difference is highly noticeable.Everyone should dl the fans version.You can find it at joe buddens forum
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Post by: Jaydc555 on August 12, 2009, 05:16:28 AM
As far as the album.This is joes best work to date.Every track had me invested in it,I felt drained after listening to it twice in a row.This is what hip hop is supposed to be.I cant wait until great escape
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Post by: Young Old Head on August 12, 2009, 05:43:20 AM
Alright i bumped the both the version joe dropped and the version the fan re mastered.The difference is highly noticeable.Everyone should dl the fans version.You can find it at joe buddens forum

pm me a link homie 8)
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Post by: Jaydc555 on August 12, 2009, 05:46:34 AM
Alright i bumped the both the version joe dropped and the version the fan re mastered.The difference is highly noticeable.Everyone should dl the fans version.You can find it at joe buddens forum

pm me a link homie 8)

I got you.Theirs two tracks missing that he didnt remaster,the tracks with the feautures but you can just add those.
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Post by: Young Old Head on August 12, 2009, 05:57:38 AM
Alright i bumped the both the version joe dropped and the version the fan re mastered.The difference is highly noticeable.Everyone should dl the fans version.You can find it at joe buddens forum

pm me a link homie 8)

I got you.Theirs two tracks missing that he didnt remaster,the tracks with the feautures but you can just add those.

i might as well master them myself 8) +1
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Post by: Jaydc555 on August 12, 2009, 06:04:56 AM
Anyone else want the remaster pm me
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Post by: JohnnyL on August 12, 2009, 09:14:59 AM
 Someone was saying that Joe said on his video blog that he was working on remastering this himself.  Anyone know if that's correct?
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Post by: Jaydc555 on August 12, 2009, 09:16:59 AM
He said that.he said amalgam hired someone that was supposedly amazing at mastering and this was his test run.He failed horribly.But he also said he was going to get padded room re mastered and its been a long time.
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Post by: S P I C E on August 12, 2009, 10:54:47 AM
Wow what a great album!! This is Joey at his best!!  This reminds me of Mood Music 2 and that is a great thing.  I am so impressed with this release, the into is crazy.
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Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 12, 2009, 10:58:30 AM
Wow what a great album!! This is Joey at his best!!  This reminds me of Mood Music 2 and that is a great thing.  I am so impressed with this release, the into is crazy.

LOL, i am telling you the Intro is no ordinary Intro; it's a classic fucking intro! :o 8)
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Post by: S P I C E on August 12, 2009, 11:08:05 AM
Wow what a great album!! This is Joey at his best!!  This reminds me of Mood Music 2 and that is a great thing.  I am so impressed with this release, the into is crazy.

LOL, i am telling you the Intro is no ordinary Intro; it's a classic fucking intro! :o 8)

Yeah the only other intro I have ever heard as good as this was Cam's intro from Killa Season.
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Post by: MoodMuzik on August 12, 2009, 11:17:10 AM
the fact joe has dropped 4 albums in less than 1 year is amazing
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Post by: Jaydc555 on August 12, 2009, 11:27:01 AM
I feel sorry for the people or should i say sheep that base their judgements on joe just on the hate he gets.They miss out on some incredible music.
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Post by: S P I C E on August 12, 2009, 11:43:43 AM
I feel sorry for the people or should i say sheep that base their judgements on joe just on the hate he gets.They miss out on some incredible music.

Aint that the truth
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Young Old Head on August 12, 2009, 12:19:00 PM
the fact joe has dropped 4 albums in less than 1 year is amazing

4 albums? i count 3 - padded room, slaughterhouse, escape route. halfway house came out last year and wasn't even an album ;)
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 12, 2009, 12:29:15 PM
great escape is coming out this year.And halfway house is an album.All original songs and 13 tracks,thats an album to me
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: MoodMuzik on August 12, 2009, 12:35:49 PM
the fact joe has dropped 4 albums in less than 1 year is amazing

4 albums? i count 3 - padded room, slaughterhouse, escape route. halfway house came out last year and wasn't even an album ;)

halfway house is an album and it came out in october...it is august right now....not a year yet...
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Post by: Avalanche on August 12, 2009, 12:43:22 PM
i think its safe to say that whoever mastered the last couple of albums is somewhat tone def and has no idea how to work the treble/sharp tools. lol
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 12, 2009, 01:59:09 PM
the fact joe has dropped 4 albums in less than 1 year is amazing

4 albums? i count 3 - padded room, slaughterhouse, escape route. halfway house came out last year and wasn't even an album ;)

halfway house is an album and it came out in october...it is august right now....not a year yet...

wow, this guy is an animal! :o 8)
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Post by: Young Old Head on August 13, 2009, 04:36:09 AM
great escape is coming out this year.And halfway house is an album.All original songs and 13 tracks,thats an album to me

if i surely remember there like 2 songs over other people's beats = mixtape to me
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: MoodMuzik on August 13, 2009, 07:52:09 PM
never again is amazing...everyone can relate to it
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: MoodMuzik on August 13, 2009, 08:06:08 PM
intro-4/5  gets you hyped
anti-5/5   so much anger
never again-5/5  song everyone can relate too
world keep spinnin-10/5   song is amazing and so true
forgive me-4.5/5            great song speaks on meth
state of you- 4.5/5         culd easily turn into a 5
good enough-10/5         so much emotion put into this shit
no comment 4/5.......quality...no comment
we outta here-3.5/5        an anthem!!!!!
clothes on a mannequin-5/5  cant stress how good this shit is
freight train-4.5/5   great story
young chris, tito santana, for you....c them all as bonus so not gunna grade

4.5/5 albumt o me culd turn into 5/5 as years go by


culd be his best work

great escape will be even better which is scary
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: The Watcher on August 13, 2009, 08:22:08 PM
the album is decent, i just can't listen to it because of the mastering done

seriously, whoever mastered this album needs to find another profession, they did the worst job in the history of hiphop

ortiz's verse on we outta here sounds like it was recorded over skype
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: MoodMuzik on August 13, 2009, 08:27:17 PM
the album is decent, i just can't listen to it because of the mastering done

seriously, whoever mastered this album needs to find another profession, they did the worst job in the history of hiphop

ortiz's verse on we outta here sounds like it was recorded over skype
amalgam hired a new guy to do it and it was his first time doing this...joe said the guy failed and amalgam aint shit lmao
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 13, 2009, 09:30:04 PM
intro-4/5  gets you hyped
anti-5/5   so much anger
never again-5/5  song everyone can relate too
world keep spinnin-10/5   song is amazing and so true
forgive me-4.5/5            great song speaks on meth
state of you- 4.5/5         culd easily turn into a 5
good enough-10/5         so much emotion put into this shit
no comment 4/5.......quality...no comment
we outta here-3.5/5        an anthem!!!!!
clothes on a mannequin-5/5  cant stress how good this shit is
freight train-4.5/5   great story
young chris, tito santana, for you....c them all as bonus so not gunna grade

4.5/5 albumt o me culd turn into 5/5 as years go by


culd be his best work

great escape will be even better which is scary

i'd give We Outta Here a 4 & the Intro a 5; but i agree, amazing. 8)
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Jome on August 14, 2009, 11:25:53 AM
09. We Outta Here (feat. Royce da 5'9", Joell Ortiz & Crooked I)
Produced by StreetRunner

14. For You (feat. Royce Da 5'9")
Produced by Bink!

Did myself a favour, and only downloaded these 2.. both should have made the SH-album, especially track 14, with added Crooked & Ortiz verses.
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: JohnnyL on August 14, 2009, 11:39:17 AM
09. We Outta Here (feat. Royce da 5'9", Joell Ortiz & Crooked I)
Produced by StreetRunner

14. For You (feat. Royce Da 5'9")
Produced by Bink!

Did myself a favour, and only downloaded these 2.. both should have made the SH-album, especially track 14, with added Crooked & Ortiz verses.

I don't know, man.  I know you're not really a Budden fan, but this album is pretty good.  I'm glad you checked these two tracks out, anyway.
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 15, 2009, 02:01:29 AM
Unreal album.
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: AnybodyKilla on August 15, 2009, 09:05:40 PM
This is a really good mixtape, sounds like an album. Im feellin just about every track. That "We Outta Here" track is a banger, gonna pound in the whip!!!
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: K.Dub on August 16, 2009, 01:33:05 AM
This album is dope, I love that Metallica sample!
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 16, 2009, 02:47:48 AM
This album is dope, I love that Metallica sample!

Haha yup, No Leaf Clover.
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Elano on August 16, 2009, 03:32:09 AM
culd be his best work

great escape will be even better which is scary

lmao how do you know it ?
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 18, 2009, 11:45:10 PM
Still bumping this as an album.  Every track.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunatic on August 19, 2009, 07:17:31 PM
FINALLY got around to bumping it and I think it may be his best work so far. I loved Padded Room as well, but this is overall more consistent I would say; and Budden is rapping better verses on here. Funny the Slaughterhouse track is probably the worst cut :laugh:

As big of a fan I am of Budden, I don't blame Amalgam Digital for the mastering, I blame him. Take matters into your own hands dude. Tash put out an album this year on the very same Amalgam Digital, go listen to the mixing and mastering on that shit; crystal clear as fuck. Why? Because he didn't trust some random dude that Amalgam handled - he brought on his own team (mostly J-Beam & E. Swift) and that shit came out perfect. I'm sure Budden could do the same.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 19, 2009, 07:22:45 PM
FINALLY got around to bumping it and I think it may be his best work so far. I loved Padded Room as well, but this is overall more consistent I would say; and Budden is rapping better verses on here. Funny the Slaughterhouse track is probably the worst cut :laugh:

As big of a fan I am of Budden, I don't blame Amalgam Digital for the mastering, I blame him. Take matters into your own hands dude. Tash put out an album this year on the very same Amalgam Digital, go listen to the mixing and mastering on that shit; crystal clear as fuck. Why? Because he didn't trust some random dude that Amalgam handled - he brought on his own team (mostly J-Beam & E. Swift) and that shit came out perfect. I'm sure Budden could do the same.

he said he is personally mastering Great Escape & the guy at Amalgam SUCKS lol.

but he said that about Padded Room & he didn't master it, so we'll see lol.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunatic on August 19, 2009, 07:23:39 PM
^well i wonder if he is any good at mastering; that may be a bad idea lol. Not every artist could master. He is fucking Joe Budden for crying out loud lol, it can't be that difficult for him to find a GOOD professional 2 do it.

Tash did.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 19, 2009, 07:27:08 PM
^well i wonder if he is any good at mastering; that may be a bad idea lol. Not every artist could master. He is fucking Joe Budden for crying out loud lol, it can't be that difficult for him to find a GOOD professional 2 do it.

Tash did.

if people bitch about the mastering on his CD's i doubt he would put it in his own hands & do a worse job; he probably knows what he is doing.

but yeah, he should give it to Dre; Joey got Royce, Royce got Em, Em got Dre. :D
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lunatic on August 19, 2009, 07:28:24 PM
^well i wonder if he is any good at mastering; that may be a bad idea lol. Not every artist could master. He is fucking Joe Budden for crying out loud lol, it can't be that difficult for him to find a GOOD professional 2 do it.

Tash did.

if people bitch about the mastering on his CD's i doubt he would put it in his own hands & do a worse job; he probably knows what he is doing.

but yeah, he should give it to Dre; Joey got Royce, Royce got Em, Em got Dre. :D
haha nice connection there :D
Title: Re: --Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread--
Post by: Al Bundy on August 19, 2009, 08:15:51 PM
the album is decent, i just can't listen to it because of the mastering done

seriously, whoever mastered this album needs to find another profession, they did the worst job in the history of hiphop

ortiz's verse on we outta here sounds like it was recorded over skype

rofl. buddden still hasn't figured out how to get his shit mastered correctly? even after padded room
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: Action! on August 19, 2009, 08:35:11 PM
Quote
Listen, how much longer you expect me to be degraded by niggas that can't appreciate being appreciated?
Ya'll made this beef related.  One less person to judge just one more problem alleviated.
- State of You

His flow is insane on State of You.  Matter of fact that beat is insane.  It switches up nicely between each set of verses.  Certain elements just need to be turned up so you can appreciate the instrumentation more.

Quote
Bad contract, teams can't make a trade
majors fucking you in the ass
nigga, you going to stay a slave
5'9 is in my ear saying hey behave
but shit is fucked up and I blame it on the way it was paved
I'll chill for the sake of your age
You're great live but let me know when the stage gets appraised
All in, raising the stakes
Swear you and your label should pray
Thank God I was placed in this decade by a mistake
I don't belong here, Dad fucked Mom in the wrong year
Wrong peers amongst niggas with wrong ears
Wrong dancing, funny sounds - every song sounds weird
Wrong fashion, it's like everyone's gone queer
Be clear, I ain't hear to be fronting
You can dislike me, I ain't here to pretend
Run but you can't hide
I can't lie, I told niggas in the first two bars I was anti
- Anti

How can you hate on that?  it's pure dope
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 19, 2009, 09:30:55 PM
the sample for State of You was sick.

& if that wasn't a clear shot at Meth on Anti (it was an old verse from the Joey's DOA Freestyle), i must be on something lol.

sick album! 8)
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: Action! on August 19, 2009, 09:54:32 PM
I know that's why i was og disappointed with anti because the beat was lacking for reused lyrics but DAMN THOSE LYRICS ARE DOPE
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 21, 2009, 03:04:39 AM
What's the word..  Is he gonna re-release it?
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: virtuoso on August 21, 2009, 04:37:07 AM
I have only heard Intro on youtube so far but wtf, this mixing is horrible, this sounds worse than the mixing on padded room, i want to hear this the way it should be heard

Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: Makaveli's Food & Liquor on August 21, 2009, 05:42:52 AM
Its a dope street album, Joey at his best but the mastering/mixing is pathetic and it really ruins it, he should just get it fixed instead of making excuses, PR and HH both had the same problem so its not like its a new thing, he should stop being cheap fucker and get it done right ffs, lol at anyone who buys these 'albums'
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: virtuoso on August 21, 2009, 06:56:21 AM

Was PR's mixing ever sorted out? i read in an interview that it was being addressed but never saw any confirmation?
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 21, 2009, 09:19:55 AM
I have only heard Intro on youtube so far but wtf, this mixing is horrible, this sounds worse than the mixing on padded room, i want to hear this the way it should be heard



amazing song though. 8)
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 23, 2009, 01:49:57 PM

Was PR's mixing ever sorted out? i read in an interview that it was being addressed but never saw any confirmation?

It was an in-house dude doing it, and they aren't letting him do it anymore..

So if ER was a different person.  we can then now assume it is the mixing, and not the mastering.

You can't master something to sound good when it was mixed too poorly.

Possible problems:

1) Joe wants a certain sound with his music
2) Joe doesn't wanna spend the time to cooperate with the third party to achieve that sound
3) He and his people end up trying to do it during the mixdown, and fuck it up for everyone.


P.S.

OR

4) He really does have bad luck with engineers, and/or he and Amalgam are cheap fucks.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: DTG Entertainment on August 23, 2009, 01:55:24 PM

Was PR's mixing ever sorted out? i read in an interview that it was being addressed but never saw any confirmation?

It was an in-house dude doing it, and they aren't letting him do it anymore..

So if ER was a different person.  we can then now assume it is the mixing, and not the mastering.

You can't master something to sound good when it was mixed too poorly.

Possible problems:

1) Joe wants a certain sound with his music
2) Joe doesn't wanna spend the time to cooperate with the third party to achieve that sound
3) He and his people end up trying to do it during the mixdown, and fuck it up for everyone.


P.S.

OR

4) He really does have bad luck with engineers, and/or he and Amalgam are cheap fucks.

Sounds about right.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: S P I C E on August 23, 2009, 03:27:54 PM
Leak is on point like usual

And I think this is the best album over the year!!  Even above Padded Room and the Slaughterhouse album.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on October 04, 2009, 11:29:41 PM
TORENO (had to edit this mofo's name) and I have examined the before and after, and pause the laughter, they retailed the disc did it right quick, and it sounds like music you could bump in the whip.

Cop that new Retail CD rip for the better mixing/mastering jumpoff.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: DTG Entertainment on October 04, 2009, 11:36:30 PM
Cop the retail, LOADS better mixing.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: Jaydc on October 05, 2009, 12:05:16 AM
are they selling hardcopies?
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on October 05, 2009, 01:07:43 AM
Goto Wal-Mart.  :)
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: Jaydc on October 05, 2009, 01:10:10 AM
Goto Wal-Mart.  :)

are you being serious or just fucking with me?I dont pay for digital music and I never will.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on October 05, 2009, 01:21:11 AM
Goto Wal-Mart.  :)

are you being serious or just fucking with me?I dont pay for digital music and I never will.

Dead ass, it will be there, cuz I saw Padded Room, and it's same distributor.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: Jaydc on October 05, 2009, 01:24:51 AM
Goto Wal-Mart.  :)

are you being serious or just fucking with me?I dont pay for digital music and I never will.

Dead ass, it will be there, cuz I saw Padded Room, and it's same distributor.
thats fucking dope man.Ill check hmv out as well.Ive been listening to it non stop since it came out.Its better then padded room
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on October 05, 2009, 02:35:56 AM
I agree!!!!!!!!

Probably my favorite independent release from him yet.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 05, 2009, 09:47:23 AM
one of my favorite albums of the year. 8)
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: virtuoso on October 05, 2009, 09:53:23 AM
Great listen if you don't like joe budden that's cool (speaking in general) but to say he isn't a dope lyricist is admitting you don't listen.
Certainly in my 10 top rappers right now
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: Jaydc on October 06, 2009, 09:22:30 PM
Just picked up my hardcopy they had about 5 of them at the hmv by me.I also picked up saigon warning shots 2 but was severely disapointed with it.Too many wack songs on it.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Watcher on October 13, 2009, 12:31:31 AM
i just wish they woulda fixed up ortiz's verse on we outta here, shit sounds terrible
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: Jaydc on October 13, 2009, 07:45:12 PM
Ortiz verse was terrible regardless.His lyrics were subpar and his flow was a mess,didnt flow with the beat at all.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: bez on October 14, 2009, 07:58:36 AM
Solid album. Love the Intro!
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 14, 2009, 10:59:31 AM
Solid album. Love the Intro!

personal favorite on the album.

it's a monster! :o
Title: Re: Joe Budden - Escape Route - Discussion Thread
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on October 14, 2009, 12:41:35 PM
didnt realise the retail was out, will pick it up !