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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Detox Iz Not Active on September 06, 2009, 06:03:52 AM
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at that time period, all these unreleased tracks>>>ya fav at the time
now, 2pac may have released more tracks but they weren't on this level
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Ice Cube 8)
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Ice Cube 8)
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at that time period, all these unreleased tracks>>>ya fav at the time
now, 2pac may have released more tracks but they weren't on this level
u def got brain damage homeboy, snoop himself knowz he aint on pac's level........
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Ice Cube 8)
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at that time period, all these unreleased tracks>>>ya fav at the time
now, 2pac may have released more tracks but they weren't on this level
u def got brain damage homeboy, snoop himself knowz he aint on pac's level........
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at that time period, all these unreleased tracks>>>ya fav at the time
now, 2pac may have released more tracks but they weren't on this level
sorry but you are wrong . ice cube & 2pac both released better music from that time.
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Snoop back then was the best but he didnt last as long as Pac (and that says something) and definately not as long as Cube did it. Cube been doin it since 86 in a sense even though his first solo was in 90
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nah
2pac > ice cube > dj quik > crooked i > kurupt > snoop > eazy e > planet asia > xzibit > dilated > big hutch
dj quik was a better lyricist than snoop PLUS he made his own beats each album
ice cube is far better t han Snoop
Kurupt outshined Snoop during the doggystyle era...that's all i need to say about that one
and i prefer crooked i's top 50 songs to snoops top 50....but snoops top 10 songs to crookeds top 10
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snoop with dre during death row >>>>
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during that era snoop was easily top 5 in the west maybe even in rap
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snoop with dre during death row >>>>
No doubt, but after that he fell off pretty damn fast...
To me its either Pac, Cube, or Snoop. I'd personally go with Pac though...
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snoop with dre during death row >>>>
No doubt, but after that he fell off pretty damn fast...
To me its either Pac, Cube, or Snoop. I'd personally go with Pac though...
2pac for sure
snoop was mad limited in subjects to rap aobut, Pac on the other hand even had the time to make a song about his mama
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Dylan is the greatest rapper of all time! He spits hot fire!
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snoop with dre during death row >>>>
he still was not best on the west at the time . 2pac & ice cube were still best on the west at the time.2pac & ice cube during 1991 & after >>>>>> snoop with dre during death row. that is straight fact. ice cube has always been better m.c then snoop dogg & that is hip hop fact.stop being a snoop stan . i bet you did not even listen to snoop till after death row. i been down with snoop dogg since deep cover before the chronic.
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snoop with dre during death row >>>>
I have to agree.
I'm a huge fan of both pac and cube, but doggystyle is better than any album they ever put out.
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I don't know. Snoop was holding things down from the time he wrote Deep Cover until Pac came on the scene. He had really changed the game with that laid-back delivery shit. I think people tend to overlook how talented the guy is.
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I don't know. Snoop was holding things down from the time he wrote Deep Cover until Pac came on the scene. He had really changed the game with that laid-back delivery shit. I think people tend to overlook how talented the guy is.
2pac was already on the scene before deep cover . snoop dogg was talented but was not the first to use a laid back flow.
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Pac is the GOAT, lets just get that out of the way. 8)
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I don't know. Snoop was holding things down from the time he wrote Deep Cover until Pac came on the scene. He had really changed the game with that laid-back delivery shit. I think people tend to overlook how talented the guy is.
2pac was already on the scene before deep cover . snoop dogg was talented but was not the first to use a laid back flow.
I'm aware of both facts you brought up. Pac was around and doing his thing in those days but his name wasn't as hot as those associated with Death Row (i.e. Snoop and Dre). There were obviously rappers rhyming with a smooth flow before Snoop. Slick Rick was an obvious influence on young Calvin but I'd say it was Snoop's chemistry with Dre that a lot of the other producer-artist teams were trying to duplicate.
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I don't know. Snoop was holding things down from the time he wrote Deep Cover until Pac came on the scene. He had really changed the game with that laid-back delivery shit. I think people tend to overlook how talented the guy is.
2pac was already on the scene before deep cover . snoop dogg was talented but was not the first to use a laid back flow.
I'm aware of both facts you brought up. Pac was around and doing his thing in those days but his name wasn't as hot as those associated with Death Row (i.e. Snoop and Dre). There were obviously rappers rhyming with a smooth flow before Snoop. Slick Rick was an obvious influence on young Calvin but I'd say it was Snoop's chemistry with Dre that a lot of the other producer-artist teams were trying to duplicate.
2pac was already on the scene before deep cover . snoop dogg was talented but was not the first to use a laid back flow.
[/quote] I'm aware of both facts you brought up. Pac was around and doing his thing in those days but his name wasn't as hot as those associated with Death Row (i.e. Snoop and Dre). There were obviously rappers rhyming with a smooth flow before Snoop. Slick Rick was an obvious influence on young Calvin but I'd say it was Snoop's chemistry with Dre that a lot of the other producer-artist teams were trying to duplicate.
[/quote]please . 2pac was hot before death row . 2pac was hot by juice & that was when his first album had came out .2pac got hotter by poetic justice & his second album then 2pac became a mega star by the time he got shot the first time & his third album .i am from that era my friend. i am 31 years old & that means i know what i am talking about. i get around was getting as much play as g-thang , dre day & let me ride. alos 2pac was apart of the digital underground & everybody knew who digital underground is at that time. 2pac was has as hot as as those associated with Death Row (i.e. Snoop and Dre) at the time
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2pac didn't get extremely famous until Me Against The World, that's what Propelled him into one of the greats (later All Eyez and Makaveli would add to his legacy, along with all the countless docs and controversy and tracks). Even then, the west coast was held down by Snoop, Dre, Eazy, Ice Cube. But Dr. Dre and Snoop had the biggest thing back then cause of how ground breaking Doggy Style and The Chronic was. Everyone was trying to emulate them, you can even hear the influence on BIGs debut.
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2pac didn't get extremely famous until Me Against The World, that's what Propelled him into one of the greats (later All Eyez and Makaveli would add to his legacy, along with all the countless docs and controversy and tracks). Even then, the west coast was held down by Snoop, Dre, Eazy, Ice Cube. But Dr. Dre and Snoop had the biggest thing back then cause of how ground breaking Doggy Style and The Chronic was. Everyone was trying to emulate them, you can even hear the influence on BIGs debut.
please eveybody knew who 2pac was in hip hop because of juice
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EVERYBODY knew who 2pac was musically when "I get around" and "Keep Ya hEad Up" came out
everyone in hip hop knew who he was because of Juice + 2pacalypse + connections to Ed Lover, Live Squad and Digital Underground
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Pac is the GOAT, lets just get that out of the way. 8)
LMAO @ Pac being the GOAT, he wasn't seeing Cube on any level, the real GOAT
but Snoop during the Death Row was unfuckwitable
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EVERYBODY knew who 2pac was musically when "I get around" and "Keep Ya hEad Up" came out
everyone in hip hop knew who he was because of Juice + 2pacalypse + connections to Ed Lover, Live Squad and Digital Underground
There is a difference between everyone knowing who you are and being on top of the game. Pac was a pretty big name in those days but Snoop was like the poster boy for the West. I guess it's up for date but a lot of you are looking at from the perspective of what Pac became versus what he was. I'm not saying he was small potatoes back then either.
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Back then Snoop was no.1 dude on the west, he had an amazing 5 star megahit album, controversy was surrounding him and whole deathrow camp, so yea i agree he was the biggest star at the time, but did he have better records at that time then everyone else, cannot really agree on that..
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Snoop had up to 100 extra (approx.) more than 2Pac in the Vaults. It doesn't matter though, as WIDEawake can only release 13 previously unreleased ones of 2Pac's, but can release a lot more of Snoops
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Snoop had up to 100 extra (approx.) more than 2Pac in the Vaults. It doesn't matter though, as WIDEawake can only release 13 previously unreleased ones of 2Pac's, but can release a lot more of Snoops
isthat the Death Row vaults?
because i think we all know Amaru has interscopes vaults with plenty of classics still hidden in it
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Only one other person brought this up:
From 92-96, Kurupt could have rapped circles around pretty much every rapper in the industry including Snoop. Real talk, if Kurupt dropped a solo album after "New York, New York", it would be talked about in the same sentence as "Illmatic" and "Ready to Die". Since this forum is the unofficial Snoop Doggy Dogg fan club, that thought would be blasphemous, however lyrically:
Kurupt over Dre/Daz beats > Snoop over Dre/Daz beats
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Snoop may not be the best rapper on the westcoast, but theres no denying hes the biggest star, the biggest name and the biggest artist the westcoast has ever seen. Also the most global artist in rap, period. Plus, he has the best album in westcoast history.
Pac was great, but he never did anything on the level of "The Chronic" or "Doggystyle". I would actually put Cube above Pac in terms of being the best from the west. Pac's legacy was really blown up by media controversy then death IMO.
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Snoop may not be the best rapper on the westcoast, but theres no denying hes the biggest star, the biggest name and the biggest artist the westcoast has ever seen. Also the most global artist in rap, period. Plus, he has the best album in westcoast history.
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EVERYBODY knew who 2pac was musically when "I get around" and "Keep Ya hEad Up" came out
everyone in hip hop knew who he was because of Juice + 2pacalypse + connections to Ed Lover, Live Squad and Digital Underground
wrong, The rest did and he did stand out, but it wasn't until Me Against The World that he finally got HUGE respect, ask a lot of 2pac fans around that era they'll say they say his first album they got of him was Me Against The World. He was still notable on the west for the controversy and the film, but his albums weren't no wear near as succesfull as The Chronic and Doggystyle cause they still had the underground feel.
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Cube > Snoop > Quik in the Doggystyle era
Quik > Cube > Snoop in the Doggfather era
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Only one other person brought this up:
From 92-96, Kurupt could have rapped circles around pretty much every rapper in the industry including Snoop. Real talk, if Kurupt dropped a solo album after "New York, New York", it would be talked about in the same sentence as "Illmatic" and "Ready to Die". Since this forum is the unofficial Snoop Doggy Dogg fan club, that thought would be blasphemous, however lyrically:
Kurupt over Dre/Daz beats > Snoop over Dre/Daz beats
NOBODY was puttin Kurupt Young Gotti ahead of GZA THE GENIUS
Gza's liquid swords will always be looked upon as Raps best album by someone not named 2pack Shaker
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Only one other person brought this up:
From 92-96, Kurupt could have rapped circles around pretty much every rapper in the industry including Snoop. Real talk, if Kurupt dropped a solo album after "New York, New York", it would be talked about in the same sentence as "Illmatic" and "Ready to Die". Since this forum is the unofficial Snoop Doggy Dogg fan club, that thought would be blasphemous, however lyrically:
Kurupt over Dre/Daz beats > Snoop over Dre/Daz beats
NOBODY was puttin Kurupt Young Gotti ahead of GZA THE GENIUS
Gza's liquid swords will always be looked upon as Raps best album by someone not named 2pack Shaker
The entire East Coast Wu-Tang Catalog is amazing I'll admit. But At the time despite critical success, West Coast was doing both selling and praise. Ready To Die was the only album out there to be matched with sells and success.
Honestly both coast had a huge amount of albums that were amazing, but only a few had a HUGE impact and only a few were innovated. Some impact was good, others well not.. lol
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it wasn't really eas and west
it was east and death row....even Eazy E was so desperate t hat he reosrted to "G Funk" on 187um dr dre killa ep
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Only one other person brought this up:
From 92-96, Kurupt could have rapped circles around pretty much every rapper in the industry including Snoop. Real talk, if Kurupt dropped a solo album after "New York, New York", it would be talked about in the same sentence as "Illmatic" and "Ready to Die". Since this forum is the unofficial Snoop Doggy Dogg fan club, that thought would be blasphemous, however lyrically:
Kurupt over Dre/Daz beats > Snoop over Dre/Daz beats
As a straight lyricist, Kurupt was the best thing they had over there at Death Row but Snoop was the star. It's kind of like comparing Canibus and Slick Rick. Snoop's bread and butter was more about the style and the way he flowed than the complexity of the actual rhymes. Kurupt was vicious with his but Snoop was the major featured artist on every hit record off The Chronic for a reason. Kurupt's flow was aggressive. You listen to "Stranded On Death Row" and he comes out and just knocks the listener or their ass. Snoop's shit is kind of like, it don't even matter what the words are. He makes that shit sound so cool and melodic that the listener wants to just take it and own that. I think someone actually summed it up on one of the VH1 specials, either about Dre or Snoop in that the beauty of the records they made was they did songs about guns, smoking weed, and bitches and the production made it sound as clean as a Quincy Jones-produced Michael Jackson record.
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your 2nd album is doggfather, i ain't got to say mo'
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it wasn't really eas and west
it was east and death row....even Eazy E was so desperate t hat he reosrted to "G Funk" on 187um dr dre killa ep
That album came out in 93/94, G Funk was around its peak. What do you mean desperate.
Snoop may not be the best rapper on the westcoast, but theres no denying hes the biggest star, the biggest name and the biggest artist the westcoast has ever seen. Also the most global artist in rap, period. Plus, he has the best album in westcoast history.
Pac was great, but he never did anything on the level of "The Chronic" or "Doggystyle". I would actually put Cube above Pac in terms of being the best from the west. Pac's legacy was really blown up by media controversy then death IMO.