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Title: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Young Dan Iza on September 07, 2009, 07:05:18 AM
last night wideawake and myself had a conversation on twitter, heres what we talked about:

me: "everyone wants to know! when are we going to get tha next episode original version!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!"

wideawake: "As stated previously we CANNOT use unreleased Dr. Dre verses. That song was reviewed and contains Dre there for cant be used."

me: "damn! that sux! thanks for the confirmation though, but i thought u could use it bc its listed on doggystyle"

wideawake: "no, we wish we could because we know the fans want it BADLY."


well kind of bittersweet, it doesnt sound like we will get to hear it soon, but atleast we know that wideawake is listening to  us and they know what the fans want
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: EnzoUK on September 07, 2009, 07:11:14 AM
o well...

propz on the info though.

whats wideawakes twitter btw? ill give them a follow.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on September 07, 2009, 07:22:20 AM
they, in theory, can put it up on their website as a free song right?  because they wouldn't be making any profit off of it...


fucking Dre, why won't he let them release it
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Young Dan Iza on September 07, 2009, 07:26:25 AM
o well...

propz on the info though.

whats wideawakes twitter btw? ill give them a follow.

deathrowmusic
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on September 07, 2009, 07:28:14 AM
this is devistating news right here


Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Macdaddy_93 on September 07, 2009, 07:47:23 AM
I left them a message asking if a "Doggystyle Re-lit" was in the pipeline. There response was "Its a possiblity, but were focusing on the lost files at the mo"
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on September 07, 2009, 08:01:23 AM
I left them a message asking if a "Doggystyle Re-lit" was in the pipeline. There response was "Its a possiblity, but were focusing on the lost files at the mo"


ask them about "MAKAVELI - THE 7 DAY THEORY" for me


i dont use twitter
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: kuruptDPG on September 07, 2009, 08:04:27 AM
damn thats unfortunate, that means no chronic leftovers, no helter skelter, no chronic 2.

these are projects that could sell well
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on September 07, 2009, 08:06:39 AM
damn thats unfortunate, that means no chronic leftovers, no helter skelter, no chronic 2.

these are projects that could sell well
BLAME DR GAY
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Don Seer on September 07, 2009, 08:15:38 AM



told you guys way back before wide awake even won the auction of the row that dre's stuff would never come out like this!


he stopped DR even selling chronic tracks seperately, theres no way he'll ever sign off stuff that wasnt release, in his mind.. whats out was meant to be, what aint, never will be unless it leaks via wideawake.. in which case, of course.. it'll be obvious where its come from!

dre was pretty much the only person who had his own publishing at death row, everything that was under suge's name is fair game for wideawaket to release, unless there are other issues like sample clearance etc

Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on September 07, 2009, 08:19:34 AM
dre HAS To know that niggas be watnin the Next Episode to be released


why wont he just allow it


Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Don Seer on September 07, 2009, 08:23:18 AM
you think death row is a good or bad memory for him?  he could have bought death row easily, as could interscope.

or something he'd rather forget or doesnt care about?


btw i'd love for the LBC Crew project to come out... BUT,.. i think as it was done by Snoop and he hoped for a  release on Doggystyle/Death Row it might not be possible as wideawake may not actually own it, snoop might.. or c style might...

in some cases DR may only own what was handed in.. especially with Dr Dre


Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on September 07, 2009, 08:26:10 AM
i think Death Row was a good memory for him because it made him the legend he is now


he coulda stayed under Eazy E's shadow and shitty contracts but why?


death row is what propelled him to superstardom


you'd think he could simply ok one measley song to be released
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: EnzoUK on September 07, 2009, 08:31:36 AM
damn thats unfortunate, that means no chronic leftovers, no helter skelter, no chronic 2.

these are projects that could sell well

this is horrible news....
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: EFFeX on September 07, 2009, 08:42:46 AM
That update was like a shot gun blast to the chest.

How unfortunate...  :(
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: GimmeYourShoes on September 07, 2009, 09:05:32 AM
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Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: EFFeX on September 07, 2009, 09:21:34 AM
Does WIDEawake have an official forum yet? I think that would greatly help with fan communication.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on September 07, 2009, 10:34:45 AM
Dre needs to stop being a bitch and let them use his old vocals
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: EFFeX on September 07, 2009, 10:48:13 AM
Dre needs to stop being a bitch and let them use his old vocals

Co-sign...

I mean, he hasn't even released Detox, there ain't no way he's going to release his old joints.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: GangstaBoogy on September 07, 2009, 11:13:29 AM
Lol Dre doesn't want anything released. His new shit, his old shit, his artist, nada!

We live in the digital era. WideAwake could just leak it if they really wanted us to have it. They can't get sued for material they never made money off of.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: MarshColin on September 07, 2009, 11:22:41 AM
they, in theory, can put it up on their website as a free song right?  because they wouldn't be making any profit off of it...


fucking Dre, why won't he let them release it

Pretty sure that's illegal too because it is still technically "releasing" the song which still would violate the agreement and it doesn't matter if they make money off of it or not.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: kuruptDPG on September 07, 2009, 11:25:34 AM
Dre needs to stop being a bitch and let them use his old vocals

Co-sign...

I mean, he hasn't even released Detox, there ain't no way he's going to release his old joints.

yh i agree. maybe hes re-used alot of verses and doesnt want us to find out about it
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on September 07, 2009, 11:27:48 AM
wait tho....they cant use dre's but they can use snoops, daz, etc....?
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Don Seer on September 07, 2009, 11:34:40 AM
yes because dre had his own publishing. suge owned everyone elses publishing, apart from 2pac.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on September 07, 2009, 11:39:24 AM
oh so suge owned daz, kurupt, snoop, cpo etc but not dres?




yes because dre had his own publishing. suge owned everyone elses publishing, apart from 2pac.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Don Seer on September 07, 2009, 11:42:26 AM
maybe not cpo.. but yeah pretty much.. if they were new when they came out on death row then its 100% they were on suge publishing and knight management.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on September 07, 2009, 11:46:09 AM
thats crazy aite good lookin on explainin that, but damn thats crazy
and that could be the reason all daz can do is talk but he cant take any legal action since he cant do anything?
(talk as in speak on it as to why he thinks what he thinks vs dre approvin or declinin for the release)




maybe not cpo.. but yeah pretty much.. if they were new when they came out on death row then its 100% they were on suge publishing and knight management.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: V2DHeart on September 07, 2009, 01:52:54 PM
Be good to know the exact technicality in relation to the 2Pac catalouge. IE: The All Eyez On Me, and Don Killuminati : 7 Day Theory albums. WIDEawake probably - in fact, more than likely wont be able to use OG versions of songs as bonuses on the re-issues should there be any, but may - at present time, be able to use additional mixes of the songs.

I think they should leave the 2Pac re-issues (if any) later on, in 2011, 2012 to allow time to create a 'good' valued relationship with Amaru, and a reliance that they wont exploit the 2Pac material (even though that would be hypocritical from Amaru - the "alive conspiracy initiators") in the hopes that one day they could re-issue those 2 albums with Original versions of tracks, and a couple of cuts
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Blasphemy on September 07, 2009, 02:10:58 PM
I say Boycott Detox and Dres crusty ass until the retard at least gives us the Next Episode...Fuck Dre never did give a shit about his fans, no wonder his ass got punked by everyone in the game.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: nuerastudios06 on September 07, 2009, 02:23:01 PM
If profit isn't made I doubt Dre can do anything about it. Just say some hacked into their system and jacked. Once out Dre might be willing to sign it off seing that it's seen the light of day.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on September 07, 2009, 02:24:25 PM
Be good to know the exact technicality in relation to the 2Pac catalouge. IE: The All Eyez On Me, and Don Killuminati : 7 Day Theory albums. WIDEawake probably - in fact, more than likely wont be able to use OG versions of songs as bonuses on the re-issues should there be any, but may - at present time, be able to use additional mixes of the songs.

I think they should leave the 2Pac re-issues (if any) later on, in 2011, 2012 to allow time to create a 'good' valued relationship with Amaru, and a reliance that they wont exploit the 2Pac material (even though that would be hypocritical from Amaru - the "alive conspiracy initiators") in the hopes that one day they could re-issue those 2 albums with Original versions of tracks, and a couple of cuts

I bet you they can release whtaever 2pac originals they want - but they'd have to pay some $$$$ to a few estates (johnny j, kadafi etc)
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: kuruptDPG on September 07, 2009, 02:42:47 PM
dre probs thinks his old stuff will either out sell detox if it comes out or he doesnt want any1 to hear old verses that maybe are recycled
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: dameons on September 07, 2009, 03:33:45 PM
I'll take an instrumental.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: snoop on September 07, 2009, 03:56:33 PM
I think it's as simple as Dre not wanting Wide Awake making money off his work.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on September 07, 2009, 04:06:06 PM
dre probs thinks his old stuff will either out sell detox if it comes out or he doesnt want any1 to hear old verses that maybe are recycled
we already know Next Episode aint recycled
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on September 07, 2009, 04:07:15 PM
I think it's as simple as Dre not wanting Wide Awake making money off his work.
do u know how many no-name Jews got 3-car garages off of record sales from THe CHronic 2001??


Dre knows he'd be seeing a fat check from Wide Awake....hell he's probably getting one from the Re-Lit project itself



that's not the reason for t ihs
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Okka on September 07, 2009, 04:15:53 PM
Well, only one who knows the reason is Dr. Dre. I hope who the fuck ever will get the next interview with Dre better ask why doesn't he want his old material released.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on September 07, 2009, 04:22:39 PM
Well, only one who knows the reason is Dr. Dre. I hope who the fuck ever will get the next interview with Dre better ask why doesn't he want his old material released.
and then punch him int he fucking jaw
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: The "Untouchable" DJR on September 07, 2009, 04:51:11 PM
I always thought it was pretty obvious Dre doesn't want anything to do with anything DR related, not then and not now. And why should he, he has left the past behind him. Besides this dude takes ten years to do another album, his label isn't what it should be so why in the fuck should he be involved in putting out some unreleased songs from a time period he has left behind him a long time ago and doesn't care for anymore?
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on September 07, 2009, 05:51:30 PM
I always thought it was pretty obvious Dre doesn't want anything to do with anything DR related, not then and not now. And why should he, he has left the past behind him. Besides this dude takes ten years to do another album, his label isn't what it should be so why in the fuck should he be involved in putting out some unreleased songs from a time period he has left behind him a long time ago and doesn't care for anymore?
then were gonn ahve to kick this niggas ASS!!@!!@
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: 1981 on September 07, 2009, 06:05:29 PM
Well, only one who knows the reason is Dr. Dre. I hope who the fuck ever will get the next interview with Dre better ask why doesn't he want his old material released.
and then punch him int he fucking jaw

hahahahaha
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Detox Is A Myth!!! on September 07, 2009, 07:01:16 PM
If profit isn't made I doubt Dre can do anything about it. Just say some hacked into their system and jacked. Once out Dre might be willing to sign it off seing that it's seen the light of day.

Guys, c'mon now.  Do you know how copyright law works?  You can't just take somebody else's intellectual property and release it to the public when somebody else (e.g. Dre) owns the copyright (publishing) to it.  It's illegal.  Deal with it.  The only way Dre vocals get released through WideAwake is if he sees them paying Snoop his royalties from the Lost Sessions album in October and begins to trust WideAwake enough that he lets them put out his old music.  That's the only way.  If they put it up for free on their Web site, that's a copyright lawsuit right there.  It has nothing to do with whether they're profiting off of it.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Blasphemy on September 07, 2009, 07:12:19 PM
If profit isn't made I doubt Dre can do anything about it. Just say some hacked into their system and jacked. Once out Dre might be willing to sign it off seing that it's seen the light of day.

Guys, c'mon now.  Do you know how copyright law works?  You can't just take somebody else's intellectual property and release it to the public when somebody else (e.g. Dre) owns the copyright (publishing) to it.  It's illegal.  Deal with it.  The only way Dre vocals get released through WideAwake is if he sees them paying Snoop his royalties from the Lost Sessions album in October and begins to trust WideAwake enough that he lets them put out his old music.  That's the only way.  If they put it up for free on their Web site, that's a copyright lawsuit right there.  It has nothing to do with whether they're profiting off of it.

That's assuming dre actually gives a shit. The entire Death Row thing could be seen as both a good and a bad way. In the beginning good, but near the end it was a BAD thing for dre. I mean he was dissed out by 2pac, he didn't show up at Snoops Murder trail, Suge Knight had turn the label into a very bad area. Even 2pac and snoop said near the end lots of bad blood was starting to erupt between the artist.

Honestly i dbout dre gives a shit, and wouldn't want them to profit from the sells, that and I think he is ok with the way everything turned out.. but yeah, fuck dre for not letting that track drops. Its got to be the Most Hyped up West Coast Track since what OG Cali Love.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: G-Funk on September 07, 2009, 07:13:47 PM
Well, only one who knows the reason is Dr. Dre. I hope who the fuck ever will get the next interview with Dre better ask why doesn't he want his old material released.

wasn't dubcnn gonna interview him?
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on September 07, 2009, 07:39:26 PM
If profit isn't made I doubt Dre can do anything about it. Just say some hacked into their system and jacked. Once out Dre might be willing to sign it off seing that it's seen the light of day.

Guys, c'mon now.  Do you know how copyright law works?  You can't just take somebody else's intellectual property and release it to the public when somebody else (e.g. Dre) owns the copyright (publishing) to it.  It's illegal.  Deal with it.  The only way Dre vocals get released through WideAwake is if he sees them paying Snoop his royalties from the Lost Sessions album in October and begins to trust WideAwake enough that he lets them put out his old music.  That's the only way.  If they put it up for free on their Web site, that's a copyright lawsuit right there.  It has nothing to do with whether they're profiting off of it.


did  you see what happend when DeatH Row put "the last meal" for FREE in mp3 format on it's website??


they never got in trouble
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Blasphemy on September 07, 2009, 07:52:23 PM
Well, only one who knows the reason is Dr. Dre. I hope who the fuck ever will get the next interview with Dre better ask why doesn't he want his old material released.

wasn't dubcnn gonna interview him?

wasn't dubcnn suppose to have a Magizine? I'm still lookin 4 it...
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Blasphemy on September 07, 2009, 07:57:40 PM
If profit isn't made I doubt Dre can do anything about it. Just say some hacked into their system and jacked. Once out Dre might be willing to sign it off seing that it's seen the light of day.

Guys, c'mon now.  Do you know how copyright law works?  You can't just take somebody else's intellectual property and release it to the public when somebody else (e.g. Dre) owns the copyright (publishing) to it.  It's illegal.  Deal with it.  The only way Dre vocals get released through WideAwake is if he sees them paying Snoop his royalties from the Lost Sessions album in October and begins to trust WideAwake enough that he lets them put out his old music.  That's the only way.  If they put it up for free on their Web site, that's a copyright lawsuit right there.  It has nothing to do with whether they're profiting off of it.


did  you see what happend when DeatH Row put "the last meal" for FREE in mp3 format on it's website??


they never got in trouble

That's cause Snoop Dogg doesn't know shit about legality, nor does he want to get into it with Suge. When he left The row, suge was in jail.. Dre on the other hand is a real businessman. He obviously did take Death row and Suge to court. While he couldn't get his masters/rights back he did get the injunction passed to stop any more releases of him. Face it Dre is smarter, if Death Row had done that with 2001 Dre so would of filed a lawsuit, won and probably use the opportunity to try and regain the rights to the Chronic again.

That's why Dre IMO is only good as a businessman/producer.Lyricist? He needs ghost writers, as a rapper hes good. But I mean he ain't stupid. He never bought into the whole east vs west thing, the Hardcore image Death Row was putting out (which ironically he started via The Chronic). His ass knew business.

Sorta Ironic, he found such success on Death cause of Suge Knight being able to get his contract from Ruthless (though the publishing clause may explain why he didn't release anything), then near the end he found himself on a bad way cause of Suge and Suge being able to prevent him from getting his masters. Its a fucked situation lol
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Muhfukka on September 07, 2009, 08:24:39 PM
fuck dr dre
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Jimmy H. on September 07, 2009, 09:50:02 PM
I say Boycott Detox and Dres crusty ass until the retard at least gives us the Next Episode..

Or maybe we can all find out where he lives and sit on his lawn crying like little kids syaing "GIMME NEXT EPISODE! I WANT IT!!!!"

Be good to know the exact technicality in relation to the 2Pac catalouge. IE: The All Eyez On Me, and Don Killuminati : 7 Day Theory albums. WIDEawake probably - in fact, more than likely wont be able to use OG versions of songs as bonuses on the re-issues should there be any, but may - at present time, be able to use additional mixes of the songs.

I think they should leave the 2Pac re-issues (if any) later on, in 2011, 2012 to allow time to create a 'good' valued relationship with Amaru, and a reliance that they wont exploit the 2Pac material (even though that would be hypocritical from Amaru - the "alive conspiracy initiators") in the hopes that one day they could re-issue those 2 albums with Original versions of tracks, and a couple of cuts
I think Laura Lavi already broke it down in an interview. She said they could put one album worth of unreleased Tupac songs as part of the auction deal.

did  you see what happend when DeatH Row put "the last meal" for FREE in mp3 format on it's website??


they never got in trouble
That's not true at all. Priority actually brought the legal team down on them. And in the case of "The Last Meal", Suge argued that since he was still making money off of Snoop's catalog at No Limit that it would hurt his sales too.

Dre gave up his masters and his portion of a company that was worth more than $100 million dollars. Since then, he apparently never got paid his proper dollars when it came to publishing royalties so I'm guessing I think of a few reasons why he's not in a hurry to sign off on giving more of his material away. We may get it some day, we may not. It ain't the end of the world. We still got four unreleased Dre-produced Snoop songs coming, next month.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Blasphemy on September 08, 2009, 01:49:05 AM
I say Boycott Detox and Dres crusty ass until the retard at least gives us the Next Episode..

Or maybe we can all find out where he lives and sit on his lawn crying like little kids syaing "GIMME NEXT EPISODE! I WANT IT!!!!"


Maybe I can find were your mom is and Donkey Punch the bitch proper.  8)

I mean come on, I just want the Next Episode already. Detox hype is crap, he says he is bring Lil Wayne and TI on the mother fucker....do R-Kelly and shit. Not really hyped up for it anymore.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Dre-Day on September 08, 2009, 01:57:51 AM
I say Boycott Detox and Dres crusty ass until the retard at least gives us the Next Episode..

Or maybe we can all find out where he lives and sit on his lawn crying like little kids syaing "GIMME NEXT EPISODE! I WANT IT!!!!"
;D props!
so much drama on dubcc over one song, damn :D
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Jimmy H. on September 08, 2009, 02:02:15 AM
Maybe I can find were your mom is and Donkey Punch the bitch proper.  8)

I mean come on, I just want the Next Episode already. Detox hype is crap, he says he is bring Lil Wayne and TI on the mother fucker....do R-Kelly and shit. Not really hyped up for it anymore.
  Mama jokes? Crying about Dre & Snoop tracks from the Death Row era? Quick. Somebody get me a DeLorean DMC-12, about five feet of fishing line, and a Sega Genesis cartridge. We lost another one in 1993 and he appears to be throwing a temper tantrum.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Dre-Day on September 08, 2009, 02:06:09 AM
Maybe I can find were your mom is and Donkey Punch the bitch proper.  8)

I mean come on, I just want the Next Episode already. Detox hype is crap, he says he is bring Lil Wayne and TI on the mother fucker....do R-Kelly and shit. Not really hyped up for it anymore.
  Mama jokes? Crying about Dre & Snoop tracks from the Death Row era? Quick. Somebody get me a DeLorean DMC-12, about five feet of fishing line, and a Sega Genesis cartridge. We lost another one in 1993 and he appears to be throwing a temper tantrum.

:D
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: GSmith on September 08, 2009, 02:47:35 AM
Someone should ask about the Helter Skelter Album. I dont have Twitter so i cant ask.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: V2DHeart on September 08, 2009, 10:22:50 AM
Quote from: False Things Must Perish2

did  you see what happend when DeatH Row put "the last meal" for FREE in mp3 format on it's website??

they never got in trouble

They did get contacted about that. Dead Man Walkin' also appeared on the website as well, which helped Death Row, and Tha Last Meal was The last release from No Limit that Suge would profit from

Quote from: Jimmy H
I think Laura Lavi already broke it down in an interview. She said they could put one album worth of unreleased Tupac songs as part of the auction deal.

I know about the previously unreleased 13 track 2Pac album. In fact, it could be broken down as 2 EP's.. One with 6 tracks, another with 7... One projected album can consist of multiple volumes. What I mean about the Makaveli/All Eyez albums was that there may be a technicality which allows them to release material in any shapre or form already released to the public. Suge's Death Row had something similar, which is why we seen many tracks from the All Eyez/Makaveli albums released in numerous forms Eg: Remix (Nu Mixx) Live albums and so on - various remixes on other inmates projects (Kurupt, Eastwood, NINA, Crooked I) which wouldn't deprive the belief that a 2Pac OG's album could have happened on Death Row in modern times

Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: love33 on September 08, 2009, 05:48:33 PM
What really happened was Suge was going to release 4 unreleased Dr. Dre solo tracks around the same time period in 1999 when Dre was dropping then-titled "The Chronic 2000" (same title Suge was using).  Suge was going to put the 4 unreleased Dre tracks, with the unreleased Pac tracks that did get released, and combine that with DPG tracks and tracks by the Top Dogg, Tha Realest, Soopafly, and Mac Shawn.  Suge renamed "Inside Out" to "Chronic 2000" and it was a great marketing strategy for Suge to push his new acts along with Top Dogg being on that "All About U" video on Tupac's Greatest Hits.

Dre forfeited the masters over to Suge as part of his deal when he left Death Row.  So Suge really owned those masters (now Wideawake).  However, the court ruled even though Suge owned them, that he could never release them without Dre's approval, except for tracks that had already been released (This is why we saw the same Dre tracks repackaged and re-released on several Death Row releases, but never any unreleased tracks).  The judge ruled this way because Dre had not recieved any compensation for sales of "The Chronic" album when he left the label, even though he forfeited his masters to Suge, Dre never recieved any royalties so the judge made this ruling.

Then Dre took him to court saying that he didn't want his tracks released on Suge's version of "The Chronic 2000."  So the judge ruled that Suge has exclusive rights over the album title "The Chronic 2000" and Suge was NOT allowed to release any Dre tracks that were recorded in the Death Row era even though suge legally owned those tracks.  This is why Dre's album was renamed to "2001," because suge owned "The Chronic 2000" name.  (Otherwise, two "chronic 2000" albums probably would have came out with the same title and the controversy would have led to even more sales).

When Suge forfeited his masters to death row over in the bankruptcy hearing and were eventually purchased legitimately by Wideawake, all of suge's tracks became ownership of wideawake, including the Dr. Dre tracks. The tracks are all there, but Wideawake cannot release them without approval from Dr. Dre.

I personally think the major reason Dre will not sign off on a release of some of these tracks is because it would water down the hype of "Detox."  When an artist has huge hype for a release, it can kill the hype if a bunch of records surface before the big release.  For example, this is why Jermaine Dupri was upset at Daz for releasing a solo album on indy DPG records shortly before his big release when JD was trying to hype and push "So So Gangsta."
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: JD Bastin on September 08, 2009, 05:51:19 PM
i hope they release "187um NEW YORK KILLERZ" by Pac, i want that in CD-Q
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on September 08, 2009, 06:36:50 PM
jimmy H


if i dont get a Cdq of Next episode in my lifetime i'll have to start a genocide!
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Sir Petey on September 08, 2009, 07:16:40 PM
this shit is fuckin crazy!


yall are clownin hard in this thread!!!


Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Jimmy H. on September 08, 2009, 09:37:32 PM
jimmy H


if i dont get a Cdq of Next episode in my lifetime i'll have to start a genocide!
That's an interesting plan but how does that work? Are you gonna start the genocide from your death bed or are you counting on some kind of reincarnation that will allow you to exact revenge in another life? I mean, what if you start the genocide and halfway through it, "Next Episode" comes out. Boy, will your face be red. 
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on September 08, 2009, 09:49:20 PM
no because it'll be too late my friend


we'll all be dead
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on September 08, 2009, 09:49:56 PM
I say Boycott Detox and Dres crusty ass until the retard at least gives us the Next Episode..

Or maybe we can all find out where he lives and sit on his lawn crying like little kids syaing "GIMME NEXT EPISODE! I WANT IT!!!!"
;D props!
so much drama on dubcc over one song, damn :D



get the fuck outta here, that song would drive me to buy two copies of the CD its ut out on
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Davizz on September 08, 2009, 11:45:06 PM
They should release it without Dre vocal and use it as a bonus on the next Snoop Dogg project... it's better than nothing.
Then maybe they could leak Dre's acapella.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Jimmy H. on September 08, 2009, 11:59:55 PM
They should release it without Dre vocal and use it as a bonus on the next Snoop Dogg project... it's better than nothing.
Then maybe they could leak Dre's acapella.
And maybe Reese's can start taking the peanut butter out of the Peanut Butter Cups and just sell it seperately. I like your idea though. They can call it "Next Episode: The King Solomon Edition".
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Dre-Day on September 09, 2009, 12:20:19 AM
jimmy H


if i dont get a Cdq of Next episode in my lifetime i'll have to start a genocide!
That's an interesting plan but how does that work? Are you gonna start the genocide from your death bed or are you counting on some kind of reincarnation that will allow you to exact revenge in another life? I mean, what if you start the genocide and halfway through it, "Next Episode" comes out. Boy, will your face be red. 

They should release it without Dre vocal and use it as a bonus on the next Snoop Dogg project... it's better than nothing.
Then maybe they could leak Dre's acapella.
And maybe Reese's can start taking the peanut butter out of the Peanut Butter Cups and just sell it seperately. I like your idea though. They can call it "Next Episode: The King Solomon Edition".
LOL, you're on fire lately, haha ;D
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Jimmy H. on September 09, 2009, 12:30:09 AM
I'm just picturing all these people with a WideAwake CD that has "Next Episode" minus the Dre vocals on one track and then a Dre acapella on the other one. It's like taking apart a brand new biycle and giving every child in a family of 12 a different piece as a Christmas present.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Blasphemy on September 09, 2009, 12:47:09 AM
If they took Dres vocals, I wouldn't purchase that shit, Keep the shit whole and OG. I mean on the real that be some Amaru shit right there.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Macdaddy_93 on September 09, 2009, 01:05:18 AM
damn thats unfortunate, that means no chronic leftovers, no helter skelter, no chronic 2.

these are projects that could sell well

I asked deathrowmusic on twitter about helter skelter, they said it was started but never finished.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: love33 on September 09, 2009, 01:05:29 AM
What if they just took Dre's verse and replaced him with The Game??  Him and Snoop spit venom together like on "Watcha Drinkin On" that was pure fire.  They could have the lyrics be exactly the same except instead of the part "It's the mutha fuckin D-R-E" change it to "It's the muthafuckin G-A-M-E."  He could rap like he does his voice on "Lets Ride."  If we can't have the doctor, might as well have the Doctor's Advocate.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Macdaddy_93 on September 09, 2009, 01:13:06 AM
What if they just took Dre's verse and replaced him with The Game??  Him and Snoop spit venom together like on "Watcha Drinkin On" that was pure fire.  They could have the lyrics be exactly the same except instead of the part "It's the mutha fuckin D-R-E" change it to "It's the muthafuckin G-A-M-E."  He could rap like he does his voice on "Lets Ride."  If we can't have the doctor, might as well have the Doctor's Advocate.

No.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Okka on September 09, 2009, 02:27:14 AM
What if they just took Dre's verse and replaced him with The Game??  Him and Snoop spit venom together like on "Watcha Drinkin On" that was pure fire.  They could have the lyrics be exactly the same except instead of the part "It's the mutha fuckin D-R-E" change it to "It's the muthafuckin G-A-M-E."  He could rap like he does his voice on "Lets Ride."  If we can't have the doctor, might as well have the Doctor's Advocate.

Hahahahah, i'm down with that.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: EnzoUK on September 09, 2009, 03:04:12 AM
What if they just took Dre's verse and replaced him with The Game??  Him and Snoop spit venom together like on "Watcha Drinkin On" that was pure fire.  They could have the lyrics be exactly the same except instead of the part "It's the mutha fuckin D-R-E" change it to "It's the muthafuckin G-A-M-E."  He could rap like he does his voice on "Lets Ride."  If we can't have the doctor, might as well have the Doctor's Advocate.

co sign
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Dre-Day on September 09, 2009, 06:58:01 AM
What if they just took Dre's verse and replaced him with The Game??  Him and Snoop spit venom together like on "Watcha Drinkin On" that was pure fire.  They could have the lyrics be exactly the same except instead of the part "It's the mutha fuckin D-R-E" change it to "It's the muthafuckin G-A-M-E."  He could rap like he does his voice on "Lets Ride."  If we can't have the doctor, might as well have the Doctor's Advocate.
LOL that would be corny man, no.
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Blasphemy on September 09, 2009, 07:04:34 AM
What if they just took Dre's verse and replaced him with The Game??  Him and Snoop spit venom together like on "Watcha Drinkin On" that was pure fire.  They could have the lyrics be exactly the same except instead of the part "It's the mutha fuckin D-R-E" change it to "It's the muthafuckin G-A-M-E."  He could rap like he does his voice on "Lets Ride."  If we can't have the doctor, might as well have the Doctor's Advocate.
LOL that would be corny man, no.

lol also wouldn't it go against Death Row's policiy of keeping it OG? lol the game was still in fuckin school when that song was suppose to come out. :/ then again he name drops so much I wouldn't be surprised if he tried and place himself in history as having a track on Doggystyle...
Title: Re: WideAwake on Tha Next Episode
Post by: Okka on September 09, 2009, 07:04:46 AM
What if they just took Dre's verse and replaced him with The Game??  Him and Snoop spit venom together like on "Watcha Drinkin On" that was pure fire.  They could have the lyrics be exactly the same except instead of the part "It's the mutha fuckin D-R-E" change it to "It's the muthafuckin G-A-M-E."  He could rap like he does his voice on "Lets Ride."  If we can't have the doctor, might as well have the Doctor's Advocate.
LOL that would be corny man, no.

I'm pretty sure he's just fuckin' around. If they can't release "The Next Episode" in it's original form then don't release it at all, just leak it :D