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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: D-Nice on September 26, 2009, 11:06:54 AM
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Kurupt went off, now Warren and Daz.
Daz talking about because 2 or 3 people voiced they opinion, now he is not gonna sell his album as far as hard copies. ???
Warren does not like the forum members bad comments on his music and Kurupt just FLIPPED.
I never thought others opinions mattered to artists that much, especially the ones that are not so good. What happened to the old saying, you gotta learn how to take the good with the bad.
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i know, the internet is taking over
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i know, the internet is taking over
I think some artists are starting to blur criticism and praise. Yeah you appreciate the good but you also take the bad with the good. I have been on other forums and this one is tame compared to others the way they go in on rappers.
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i know, the internet is taking over
I think some artists are starting to blur criticism and praise. Yeah you appreciate the good but you also take the bad with the good. I have been on other forums and this one is tame compared to others the way they go in on rappers.
yep, i guess it's the drugs.
look at the Diggy Diggy Doc -> i even caught heat for pointing that out on this forum :laugh:
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Wow Dubcc is on a come up :D
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Wow Dubcc is on a come up :D
not sure if DOC is reading all that stuff though.
if he does, then he should print some of it ;D
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Wow Dubcc is on a come up :D
not sure if DOC is reading all that stuff though.
if he does, then he should print some of it ;D
It just does not make sense to me. You can't have it both ways. That is why I like Nima's interviews with Snoop. Nothing pre set as far as questions. I give my 2 cents, you give yours. Like the Stan comments for Round Here were classic along with LAX from BCT.
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Wow Dubcc is on a come up :D
not sure if DOC is reading all that stuff though.
if he does, then he should print some of it ;D
It just does not make sense to me. You can't have it both ways. That is why I like Nima's interviews with Snoop. Nothing pre set as far as questions. I give my 2 cents, you give yours. Like the Stan comments for Round Here were classic along with LAX from BCT.
yeah i'm glad Nima didn't hold back.
like Paris said:
Don't let ego and emotions be the reason you slip
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Warren does not like the forum members bad comments on his music and Kurupt just FLIPPED.
What are you talkin' about?
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Warren does not like the forum members bad comments on his music and Kurupt just FLIPPED.
What are you talkin' about?
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Warren does not like the forum members bad comments on his music and Kurupt just FLIPPED.
What are you talkin' about?
The interview Kurupt did with Nima about the forum members wanting to hear Against The Grain with the tracks like No Vaseline Pt 2.
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Warren does not like the forum members bad comments on his music and Kurupt just FLIPPED.
What are you talkin' about?
The interview Kurupt did with Nima about the forum members wanting to hear Against The Grain with the tracks like No Vaseline Pt 2.
Yeah, i thought you was talkin' about that interview.
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Warren does not like the forum members bad comments on his music and Kurupt just FLIPPED.
What are you talkin' about?
The interview Kurupt did with Nima about the forum members wanting to hear Against The Grain with the tracks like No Vaseline Pt 2.
Yeah, i thought you was talkin' about that interview.
Yeah I was like damn Rupt you gonna let the forum members get under your skin like that?
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What I don't understand is how they as artists can get upset over what someone on an internet forum says. As an artist you are creating music and giving it to the world. Its fucking impossible to get everyone to like your music. Do you expect everyone in the world to be a groupie? You should feel lucky that you have any at all. If you can't deal with criticism, then why are you doing it?
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yh true,they starting to take offence for some reason,their the 1s who say we dont give a fuck about the fans opinions, we do whatever we want.
in my opinion i think us fans have a better perspective on music.
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I understood the Kurupt comment because it was like people want to support bootleg music of him saying negative things about his friends but they were hating on the new shit. With Daz, it's like "fuck my fans because they don't want to send me a money order for my CD". I didn't get it because it is people who want to buy his album and it seems like he think he's above that. My feeling is if you upset because people want to know how to purchase your music then I don't know what is going on. Maybe it's something I'm not seeing here but I wanted to buy the album, if he don't want my money, I'm not gonna beg for him to take it. There's other artists who appreciate the support.
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Well this is the unofficial DPG forum and has had that bias. I guess they've gotten used to this board sucking up to them and praising albums that do not deserve it, so when people actually speak out against their music, they take it personally.
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Wasn't Daz being a huge bitch, cause he never sent jack shit when the money came? I mean jesus, all these rappers are just getting butthurt, I swear, THey turned bigger bitch then all the new cats. I swear, no wonder no one supports there fucking asses. Why would you support a guy whos a bitch?
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Well this is the unofficial DPG forum and has had that bias. I guess they've gotten used to this board sucking up to them and praising albums that do not deserve it, so when people actually speak out against their music, they take it personally.
But nobody really spoke out against him. At least in the thread in question. It's one thing to speak out on haters but he was more or less dissing the people who were asking for an alternate option to buy his albums (i.e. "potential paying customers".)
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Well this is the unofficial DPG forum and has had that bias. I guess they've gotten used to this board sucking up to them and praising albums that do not deserve it, so when people actually speak out against their music, they take it personally.
But nobody really spoke out against him. At least in the thread in question. It's one thing to speak out on haters but he was more or less dissing the people who were asking for an alternate option to buy his albums (i.e. "potential paying customers".)
+1
Exactly my point on the "Daz speaks out on selling hard copies" thread
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what did kurupt say? Anyone have a link to his interview?
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what did kurupt say? Anyone have a link to his interview?
http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/kurupt/
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most of the critics are hardcore fans, like me i just cant stand it when they dont do g-funk, i mean seriously man when they try to keep up with the youngstas their tracks sound like shit.
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most of the critics are hardcore fans, like me i just cant stand it when they dont do g-funk, i mean seriously man when they try to keep up with the youngstas their tracks sound like shit.
But on the real, let them people do what they want to. If their heart isn't in doing G-Funk so be it. People think just because they rock a G-funk sounding beat that it's gonna be like some time machine 1993 throwback classic shit but it don't work that way.
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Where is all of this irateness at? Can someone link to wherever Kurupt and the others went off?
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http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/kurupt/, the new Warren G interview and the Daz thread about the Public Enemiez album.
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well let them do what they want but at the end of the day,ther gonna be like the fans dont like this music and they get reviews saying this album is half good or whatever,solution to that is obviosuly take your time with the beats and lyrics,pick out good beats etc.
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Okay slow down a lil..
people actually expect them to do G-Funk in 2009? Hahahahahhahahahahah
man like i said most of the people here are geeks
its not about following new trends, or liking the new corny shit but its like how the fuck do people get mad that they aint doin G-Funk music in 09?
that's just sad and probably means that people who want to hear that so bad wasn't around or wasn't fans of Hip-Hop back when G-Funk actually was relevant, so they want it now so they can live through those years.
extremely sad..people even act all mad and shit haha...wow
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what did kurupt say? Anyone have a link to his interview?
http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/kurupt/
LMAO... How dare he even say WE - the fans are on some negative shyt for wanting to hear some Kurupt with a passion and an actual rap ability rather than the "I'm gettin mashed, fast, gettin the cash, eat a fat dick BITCH, getting rich, Bitch, Eat a Dick bitch" BS flow and raps. It was KURUPT who was making those tracks, and running back and forth to Death Row, to Daz, to Death Row, To Daz like a cheap ho. He can't be mad at us because we think his current shyt is wack and want to hear something cool, and skillful. It's got nothing to do with disses, it just happens to be something GOOD. I couldn't care if it was dissing, about fkn bitches or guys lol, as long as it's good, and unfortunatly Kurupts new shyt is garbage. It aint our fault. Fk Kurupt too. Daz & Kurupt = made for each other
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yeah where kurupt go off?lol
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I did not know that Kurupt was such an emo.
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this is the issue with being visible on the internet. they are prone to seeng these comments now and because of twitter, myspace facebook etc...they are showing their personalities which are giving people another reason to purchase or not purchase their music. The smart artists have managers and PR Reps and they make the money. Daz and Kurupt are talented but they have taken full control over their careers which means they are much easier to take an attack personally.
I'm a manager for hire ha. But seriously I love the DPG but the internet is hurting them. Promo is one thing but it still needs to be done professionally. Haters are everywhere
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but whats the definition of a hater?
or how is someone a hater if they bought DOGG FOOD but didnt buy same day different shit or public enemies, they are considered a hater? lol
this is the issue with being visible on the internet. they are prone to seeng these comments now and because of twitter, myspace facebook etc...they are showing their personalities which are giving people another reason to purchase or not purchase their music. The smart artists have managers and PR Reps and they make the money. Daz and Kurupt are talented but they have taken full control over their careers which means they are much easier to take an attack personally.
I'm a manager for hire ha. But seriously I love the DPG but the internet is hurting them. Promo is one thing but it still needs to be done professionally. Haters are everywhere
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Okay slow down a lil..
people actually expect them to do G-Funk in 2009? Hahahahahhahahahahah
man like i said most of the people here are geeks
its not about following new trends, or liking the new corny shit but its like how the fuck do people get mad that they aint doin G-Funk music in 09?
that's just sad and probably means that people who want to hear that so bad wasn't around or wasn't fans of Hip-Hop back when G-Funk actually was relevant, so they want it now so they can live through those years.
extremely sad..people even act all mad and shit haha...wow
What is wrong with that ??? Why do people think that G Funk has to stay a 90s thing ?
G Funk is music and music is timeles (when its good music) and i think we can all agree that G Funk IS good music.
I mean George Clinton never stopped doing P Funk, cause thats his passion thats him and when people talk about P Funk they never say stuff like "oooh P Funk...man thats a 70s thing"
Sometimes i ask myself if my heroes did G Funk in the 90s just because it was kool to do it back than, instead doing it for the love of it.
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Things to take out from the Kurupt Interview:
Muthafuckas talking about "Oh I can't wait to hear "No Vaseline Part 2".. Ya'll can't wait to hear all the negative shit, huh. They just love it when me and the homies is against each other!
No we were just eager to hear what the continuation of a well known and recognized diss track was going to sound like, if anything people love it when all the old clicks are back together.. Dre/Snoop, Daz/Kurupt/Soopafly, Nas/AZ, DJ Quik/AMG/Suga Free etc, not the other way around. Why call it "No Vaseline part 2" if you didn't want people to look up and gather up interest
This [Against The Grain] shit sounds like some god damn punk ass Suge Knight shit, putting out all that goddamn negative shit man
No it sounds like Kurupt to me ::)
The West Coast public was loving that shit when I dropped Callin' Out Names, but the whole game [the industry] turned they back on me
Oh really?? Bullshyt - Because I can recall Space Boogie having a song on there called "Game Over", which was all over TV & Radio, and earned you the biggest mainstream success since Dogg Food, and also featuring on a song with Shade Shiest & Nate Dogg (Where I wanna Be) again all over the TV & Radio.. Better commercial awareness than Kuruption or Streetz Iz a Mutha ever done
their opinions can suck a dick, nobody gives a fuck about their opinions! We don't make music for these fuckas! If you don't like it, don't buy the muthafucka man
Again - like many on here who has purchased The Dogg Food album more than once, and Kuruption, Streetz Iz a Mutha, Space Boogie, The Originals, Dillinger & Gotti and many more I find this insulting, because I have an opinion shared by many that Kurupts lyrical ability has fell off over the years, my opinion can suck a d!ck? lol. Immature. Spent too long with Daz this time
These is what I call false fans. Because a fan loves your music regardless
??? So you can release wack music and we gotta love it regardless because we're fans? The hell outta here lol
Well I ain't buying none of thir records!" Nigga you ain't been buying our records!
We have. I can easily provide details from Amazon, CD Universe & Paypal that confirm this, and many others on here can too
Bust a nut in yo face, put it in yo eye, and see if you can see the homies coming, you asshole!
Ouch. I've stated an opinion on more current Kurupt/DPG releases, and I'm going to get a wave of the "homies" coming to bust caps at my ass? lol. I mean come on, grown men that can't handle a bit of fkn criticism, it's pathethic
Everytime I get on these websites, I read all that negative shit, I ignore it. I'm not tripping, that's they opinions
Kurupt with a slight memory loss there, because he's been "trippin" for the entire start of the interview til now
The shit I'm hearing about this fucking EP bullshit, muthafuckas is ready to buy it for 14 dollars and wasn't ready to buy Cali Iz Active for the same price
What does that tell you... People wanted to hear the Death Row material, not for the negativity, or the disses, but for the fact that Death Row was well renowned for putting out "classic" & "timeless" materal. It's were Dogg Food, Doggystyle, and others came from so is it any surprise people were eager to hear a Death Row Kurupt CD??? No, and I purchased Cali is Active and it was alright, nothing special to be named classic, but it was good
Fuck ya'll niggas and fuck that EP too, now suck a dick and beat it!
Gladly. Let me know when the next Kurupt release is, so I can avoid it
A lot of these people, they think we don't know who they are, They got pictures of you muthafucking assholes
^^^
I mean come on, men at nearly 40 years old, who clearly can't accept criticism, and want to attack the few fans they actually have who still buy their product... Truth be told, that Kurupt's rap ability has slide tremendously over the years, to a lazy flow of sluggish vocabulary, and raps that people can't even be bothered with - How many times can you say "Bitch" and "Suck a Dick" in one verse?... Expanding who you're working with? Fine, getting back with Daz, Snoop etc. All good, but it still doesn't conceal the fact that the actual rapping is poor. Only when Kurupt went back to Death Row and "dissed", did he get some passion and fire up under his ass to actually deliver the heat THAT'S what us fans admired, not the dissing, not the "fk Daz", but the fire.. Kurupt, like Daz dissing his fans heavily for having an opinion on a West Coast forum that's visited by... hmm WEST COAST FANS :o Diss your majority listeners for your own malfunctions in raps, and just see how far it gets you.. Long, but had to write it. Daz & Kurupt are starting to act like a bunch of immature little bitches
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yep, i guess it's the drugs.
look at the Diggy Diggy Doc -> i even caught heat for pointing that out on this forum :laugh:
don't forget your myspace convos with Erotic D :P :P :P
I'm sure if his ass didn't go to jail right after he signed up here,he would go off on dubcc... :P
what did kurupt say? Anyone have a link to his interview?
http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/kurupt/
the 10 page feed back thread is even better. :P :laugh:
Tanji got his heart broken :P :P :P :P :laugh: :laugh:
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There's so much bullshit posted here I'm not surprised they (DPG, Warren and so on) get a little heated sometimes. Why not? If you can voice your opinions, surely they are allowed to do so too. Right? If someone writes something on here that upsets you, you respond. Isn't that the way it goes? You do it yourselves all the time.
You act like the artists owe you something. They've been making music for years that people enjoy. If you don't like the music, don't listen or make something of your own. If you're too lazy or not talented enough, listen to something else.
I don't agree with everything they do or say, but I still respect the artists for making music that I can enjoy. When the artists lash out on "haters" on the forum you obviously feel guilty or targeted since you get so upset. I don't get upset, why would I? It's almost never necessary to write negative shit about music (it's only an opinion among many others, why waste energy if you don't like it), but if I were to do it I'd try to make it into constructive criticism. At least then it's possible that the artist might get something out of it. You might also get something out of it if the artist takes the constructive criticism to heart, and keeps it in mind while making new music.
The quality of the music varies of course. We can't always expect another classic. I don't think it's possible for any artist to make a better record than a previously released classic. i.e. Warren's Regulate..G Funk Era or Snoop's Doggystyle. A classic in my eyes is a perfect record, and it's not possible to be better than perfect. But they can make new classics though, if they keep making music. That's why there's no real point in comparing albums, they should be judged as individual entities.
Anyway, I just felt I had to write something. These artists (warren, daz, kurupt, snoop and so on...) make music that I like to listen to. So what if they talk back to people on the forum. They have the right to do that, just as you do. They make music that I like, they're constantly releasing new material and it's west coast. That's why I support their music. This is my opinion.
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There's so much bullshit posted here I'm not surprised they (DPG, Warren and so on) get a little heated sometimes. Why not? If you can voice your opinions, surely they are allowed to do so too. Right? If someone writes something on here that upsets you, you respond. Isn't that the way it goes? You do it yourselves all the time.
You act like the artists owe you something. They've been making music for years that people enjoy. If you don't like the music, don't listen or make something of your own. If you're too lazy or not talented enough, listen to something else.
I don't agree with everything they do or say, but I still respect the artists for making music that I can enjoy. When the artists lash out on "haters" on the forum you obviously feel guilty or targeted since you get so upset. I don't get upset, why would I? It's almost never necessary to write negative shit about music (it's only an opinion among many others, why waste energy if you don't like it), but if I were to do it I'd try to make it into constructive criticism. At least then it's possible that the artist might get something out of it. You might also get something out of it if the artist takes the constructive criticism to heart, and keeps it in mind while making new music.
The quality of the music varies of course. We can't always expect another classic. I don't think it's possible for any artist to make a better record than a previously released classic. i.e. Warren's Regulate..G Funk Era or Snoop's Doggystyle. A classic in my eyes is a perfect record, and it's not possible to be better than perfect. But they can make new classics though, if they keep making music. That's why there's no real point in comparing albums, they should be judged as individual entities.
Anyway, I just felt I had to write something. These artists (warren, daz, kurupt, snoop and so on...) make music that I like to listen to. So what if they talk back to people on the forum. They have the right to do that, just as you do. They make music that I like, they're constantly releasing new material and it's west coast. That's why I support their music. This is my opinion.
Don't know who that is for but me personally I am not offended by what they say. I just made a observation.
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Don't know who that is for but me personally I am not offended by what they say. I just made a observation.
I can't speak for him,but it sounds like he's generally speaking.
Or he don't know you :P ;)
Ok. ;D
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There's so much bullshit posted here I'm not surprised they (DPG, Warren and so on) get a little heated sometimes. Why not? If you can voice your opinions, surely they are allowed to do so too. Right? If someone writes something on here that upsets you, you respond. Isn't that the way it goes? You do it yourselves all the time.
You act like the artists owe you something. They've been making music for years that people enjoy. If you don't like the music, don't listen or make something of your own. If you're too lazy or not talented enough, listen to something else.
I don't agree with everything they do or say, but I still respect the artists for making music that I can enjoy. When the artists lash out on "haters" on the forum you obviously feel guilty or targeted since you get so upset. I don't get upset, why would I? It's almost never necessary to write negative shit about music (it's only an opinion among many others, why waste energy if you don't like it), but if I were to do it I'd try to make it into constructive criticism. At least then it's possible that the artist might get something out of it. You might also get something out of it if the artist takes the constructive criticism to heart, and keeps it in mind while making new music.
The quality of the music varies of course. We can't always expect another classic. I don't think it's possible for any artist to make a better record than a previously released classic. i.e. Warren's Regulate..G Funk Era or Snoop's Doggystyle. A classic in my eyes is a perfect record, and it's not possible to be better than perfect. But they can make new classics though, if they keep making music. That's why there's no real point in comparing albums, they should be judged as individual entities.
Anyway, I just felt I had to write something. These artists (warren, daz, kurupt, snoop and so on...) make music that I like to listen to. So what if they talk back to people on the forum. They have the right to do that, just as you do. They make music that I like, they're constantly releasing new material and it's west coast. That's why I support their music. This is my opinion.
This maybe true, but a bitch is still a bitch. We never expect more classic material, what we expect though is the artist not to act like a fucking prick to there fans. The fact he said Quote from: Kurupt
These is what I call false fans. Because a fan loves your music regardless
Is pure bullshit, Fans don't have to support inferior sell out music. Now I'm not saying he Sold out, but what he expects is fans need to be mindless Stans or some shit. Fact is this. People see bullshit get support it sells. Look at 50, his ass sold high numbers and the club mania has been fucking up the game ever sense. Soulja Boy's fucking single Proved that bullshit can now move, and calling it what it is, results in being persecuted.
The fact is after 2PAC and Biggies Death, No one wants a feud, This is why wack rappers can't be called out on it with out someone persecuting the guy telling the truth. The fact is we take a gamble with a album when we buy it, but the fact is we BUY IT, With our own hard earn money. They don't have 2 work a 9-5 anymore, they can whore themselves to white America anytime they want.
So all I'm saying it basically, basically I'm not going to spend my money on bullshit. Fuck your Fans, Fuck Your Ego, Fuck your Hypocritical notions, Fuck your sellout bullshit, fuck your mainstream bullshit, Fuck your bullshit in general. If your just going to make a album with inferior quality, and expect me to pay for it, then You out your damn mind. Mother fuckers arent rich, motherfuckers don't got money to waste.
I pay 12 for 12 tracks, Based on this Single, or this Sampler. Even then you can't trust them.
Singles tend to be hot, but they don't go with the rest of the album, Look at Slaughter House and The One.
Samplers tend to sample just the best part of a track, and it turns out the rest consist of poorly constructed lyrics, flow, delivery, and transitional chorus.
People wonder why I download a entire album before I actually buy the mother fucker. Cause most artist sell out the moment they sign. They do this bullshit, and then on the record they claim real.
But yeah, anyways
The Entire DPG click needs to wake up.
They past their time, Fuck its only the hardcore fans who support them and yet they still put out some bullshit, and expect the fans to buy em? lol Nigga, You might as well post a huge Uncle Tom Tattoo on your head. Cause what you doing is bullshit. You bleeding out the only people who support you, while everyone else was against your ass from the start.
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There's so much bullshit posted here I'm not surprised they (DPG, Warren and so on) get a little heated sometimes. Why not? If you can voice your opinions, surely they are allowed to do so too. Right? If someone writes something on here that upsets you, you respond. Isn't that the way it goes? You do it yourselves all the time.
You act like the artists owe you something. They've been making music for years that people enjoy. If you don't like the music, don't listen or make something of your own. If you're too lazy or not talented enough, listen to something else.
I don't agree with everything they do or say, but I still respect the artists for making music that I can enjoy. When the artists lash out on "haters" on the forum you obviously feel guilty or targeted since you get so upset. I don't get upset, why would I? It's almost never necessary to write negative shit about music (it's only an opinion among many others, why waste energy if you don't like it), but if I were to do it I'd try to make it into constructive criticism. At least then it's possible that the artist might get something out of it. You might also get something out of it if the artist takes the constructive criticism to heart, and keeps it in mind while making new music.
The quality of the music varies of course. We can't always expect another classic. I don't think it's possible for any artist to make a better record than a previously released classic. i.e. Warren's Regulate..G Funk Era or Snoop's Doggystyle. A classic in my eyes is a perfect record, and it's not possible to be better than perfect. But they can make new classics though, if they keep making music. That's why there's no real point in comparing albums, they should be judged as individual entities.
Anyway, I just felt I had to write something. These artists (warren, daz, kurupt, snoop and so on...) make music that I like to listen to. So what if they talk back to people on the forum. They have the right to do that, just as you do. They make music that I like, they're constantly releasing new material and it's west coast. That's why I support their music. This is my opinion.
This maybe true, but a bitch is still a bitch. We never expect more classic material, what we expect though is the artist not to act like a fucking prick to there fans. The fact he said Quote from: Kurupt
These is what I call false fans. Because a fan loves your music regardless
Is pure bullshit, Fans don't have to support inferior sell out music. Now I'm not saying he Sold out, but what he expects is fans need to be mindless Stans or some shit. Fact is this. People see bullshit get support it sells. Look at 50, his ass sold high numbers and the club mania has been fucking up the game ever sense. Soulja Boy's fucking single Proved that bullshit can now move, and calling it what it is, results in being persecuted.
The fact is after 2PAC and Biggies Death, No one wants a feud, This is why wack rappers can't be called out on it with out someone persecuting the guy telling the truth. The fact is we take a gamble with a album when we buy it, but the fact is we BUY IT, With our own hard earn money. They don't have 2 work a 9-5 anymore, they can whore themselves to white America anytime they want.
So all I'm saying it basically, basically I'm not going to spend my money on bullshit. Fuck your Fans, Fuck Your Ego, Fuck your Hypocritical notions, Fuck your sellout bullshit, fuck your mainstream bullshit, Fuck your bullshit in general. If your just going to make a album with inferior quality, and expect me to pay for it, then You out your damn mind. Mother fuckers arent rich, motherfuckers don't got money to waste.
I pay 12 for 12 tracks, Based on this Single, or this Sampler. Even then you can't trust them.
Singles tend to be hot, but they don't go with the rest of the album, Look at Slaughter House and The One.
Samplers tend to sample just the best part of a track, and it turns out the rest consist of poorly constructed lyrics, flow, delivery, and transitional chorus.
People wonder why I download a entire album before I actually buy the mother fucker. Cause most artist sell out the moment they sign. They do this bullshit, and then on the record they claim real.
But yeah, anyways
The Entire DPG click needs to wake up.
They past their time, Fuck its only the hardcore fans who support them and yet they still put out some bullshit, and expect the fans to buy em? lol Nigga, You might as well post a huge Uncle Tom Tattoo on your head. Cause what you doing is bullshit. You bleeding out the only people who support you, while everyone else was against your ass from the start.
Very good post.
Perfect example for this is Warrens new record.
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lol i bet daz,warren g etc reading this page. if not they should
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i feel that a lot of us our spoiled on artist music from there younger years. Its stupid that people complain about how they want the music to be this way or that way, we need to come to the realization that it will never be what it was, complaining aint gonna change shit. I grew up on these cats and i will support them because they have blessed us with so much music over the years, it may or may not be what u want, it may not be what u like but as time goes on people change, people mature, no one stays in the same spot forever, so if their music changed then its obvious that they have changed as a person, either for the good or for bad. imagine being in their shoes, as time goes on we live and learn, our views either change for the better or for the worse, If u dont like what u hear then dont buy it. I understand where they are coming from, just understand that they are doing the best that they can do, everything that they do is how they feel at that moment. We arent always gonna be satisfied but who gives a fuck, if u like it try it, if u deny it then dont buy it, its as simple as that. A lot of u feel insulted when u shouldnt, they're the ones making the music not us. They have to hear the criticism, i would be upset as well, they are only human. At times i hear the old kurupt in spirts, and times i hear the old daz and Warren G in spirts, i love to hear them that way but ya need to understand that they are no longer the same people. They grew up, if u dont like what u hear then shut the fuck up and pop in the old shit and chill out. They have made thousands and thousands of songs, some we love and some we dont, now if u r a true fan then u wouldnt be complainin, u would just shut the fuck up and appreciate the fact that they still here to give us something rather than nothing at all, just my opinion!!!
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Rap has evolved. Its no longer bout guns bitches weed. Its why some of the more popular rap artists are the ones that talk about issues rap has seldomly covered
Even so even if they stayed on that G or Pimp shit, they just need to get the hunger back. Listening to Snoops voice on the unreleased shit recently like Poor Young Dave and Fallin 2 Sleep On Death Row he had that fire in his voice that he hasnt had since 1995. He's gotta bring that back. Its not even about the beats with my love for Snoop. I still like Snoop. But if he brought that sick ass flow & voice he used to have i'd be more likely to buy his shit.
Kurupt started goin wack with lyrics and raps from 2000 onwards. For a dude that was supposedly one of the best lyricists and rappers he has fallen off. Same shit with Prodigy from Mobb Deep. Both great rappers who just seem to have gotten lazy with the mic.
Daz still produces some good stuff but to me it sounds like he could take more time to polish those beats and build upon them. His raps have always been underrated but he needs to stop talkin the same shit he always has. Plus he's been exposed as a lying joke who fucked his fans over its an up hill battle for him to make it back
Warren G i feel sorry for the most. He's still on point (though his latest album is solid, but not good enough) but again still gets fucked over by Snoop, Dre & the industry.
Its hard to see if any of these rappers will be relevant again. Same with 50 Cent & Game. there relevance to hip hop seems to have dissapeared this past year. The games changing. Evolve with it or get left behind, but if you're gonna evolve, make it authentic and bring that passion and fire, dont sleep walk through it
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I see it this way;
Artists can do what the fuck they want with their music, after all they are doing music because they love it and make money of it. Fans can't use that "they were doing g-funk then and they need to appeal that audience" demand, artists need to progress and they have the right to experiment.
It's pathetic to get some immature hissy fit when someone criticizes your music. It's everyones own opinion what they think about the music and fans should that same freedom of speech that artists have in doing their own music. I find it fucking ridiculous if these dogg pound rappers have never experienced people who don't like their music...will they beat them up like some fucking morons would do or something? Sounds kinda like that, doesn't it? :laugh:
And someone should really tell Kurupt that people who love listening to music don't give a fuck about what the situation was when the music was done. I don't give a fuck if he had a feud with Daz when he did "No Vaseline Pt. 2", it was still a dope track. It's the same way I don't give a fuck about those Michael Jackson pedophile accusations...I'm listening to the music and not listening to a fucking life story of the artist and caring whether he had relationship problems when he did that shit or if he got pussy for the first time while recording it.
That is some fucking groupie dickrider shit if you wanna consider your favorite artists feelings before listening to a track.
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Inferio07: Agree with your post...
Blasphemy: I respect your post. I agree with some of the things you said. I also download and listen before I buy music. The things I like I buy. I don't like some of that new shit, like soulja boy and so on, therefore I don't buy that.
But there are some artists I support however. Like DPG and Warren for example. More or less, I like the type of music they make. All their albums can't be equally good but I seem to enjoy every album to some extent. I support their albums because I like the music and this way I'll probably get more music from these artists. Imagine if everyone just stopped buying snoop music after he released The Game is to Be Sold... We might not have gotten albums like The Last Meal or The Blue Carpet Treatment. Snoop might be a bad example since he makes money from so much else he'd still be putting out records, but you get the point.
Now I'm not saying everyone should buy records they don't like. This is just why I support these certain artists. I like the music they make so I buy it. Every record is a document of the time when it came out. Even though I didn't really like The Game is to be Sold.. when it came out, I can now enjoy it for what it is. I also think Warren's new album is solid. Sooo much better than most on the garbage that's put out today. But that's my opinion.
So I couldn't care less if the artists get annoyed at people on forums talking shit about their music. I enjoy the music. It would probably be best for the artists themselves to not catch feelings over this dumb shit, or to respect peoples opinions if it's written in a constructive way. But they're only human, they can get angry if they want to. Doesn't bother me.
Booz wrote that it's "some fucking groupie dickrider shit if you wanna consider your favorite artists feelings before listening to a track". Getting mad because the artists are angry at critics is also "considering" their feelings.
I listen to the music. Again, this is just my thoughts on this subject...
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yep, i guess it's the drugs.
look at the Diggy Diggy Doc -> i even caught heat for pointing that out on this forum :laugh:
don't forget your myspace convos with Erotic D :P :P :P
I'm sure if his ass didn't go to jail right after he signed up here,he would go off on dubcc... :P
sure, but Erotic D wasn't as sensitive as The Doc.
he could get pissed off on dubcc though
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Man tell Warren G to get back to making that dope westcoast G Funk with the Synths and Hard Baselines rapping about real life hood shit again , and tell Kurupt to make a official album Like Tha Streetz Iz A Mutha again with real lyrics , and tell Daz to take his time writing his lyrics and stop rapping the same shit over & over again and come with them Hard Beats again !!!!!!!!!
Daz's Best moment in the rap game = Retaliation Get Back & Revenge and Dogg Food
Kurupts Best moment in the rap game = Dogg Food , Tha Streetz Iz A Mutha ..
Warren G Best moment in the rap game = Regulate G Funk Era , I Want It All
Snoop Dogg's Best moment in the rap game = Chronic , Doggystyle , Murder Was The Case Soundtracc .....
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Man tell Warren G to get back to making that dope westcoast G Funk with the Synths and Hard Baselines rapping about real life hood shit again , and tell Kurupt to make a official album Like Tha Streetz Iz A Mutha again with real lyrics , and tell Daz to take his time writing his lyrics and stop rapping the same shit over & over again and come with them Hard Beats again !!!!!!!!!
Daz's Best moment in the rap game = Retaliation Get Back & Revenge and Dogg Food
Kurupts Best moment in the rap game = Dogg Food , Tha Streetz Iz A Mutha ..
Warren G Best moment in the rap game = Regulate G Funk Era , I Want It All
Snoop Dogg's Best moment in the rap game = Chronic , Doggystyle , Murder Was The Case Soundtracc .....
I bet u didnt even listen to G Files...hes rappin about real life.
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Man tell Warren G to get back to making that dope westcoast G Funk with the Synths and Hard Baselines rapping about real life hood shit again , and tell Kurupt to make a official album Like Tha Streetz Iz A Mutha again with real lyrics , and tell Daz to take his time writing his lyrics and stop rapping the same shit over & over again and come with them Hard Beats again !!!!!!!!!
Daz's Best moment in the rap game = Retaliation Get Back & Revenge and Dogg Food
Kurupts Best moment in the rap game = Dogg Food , Tha Streetz Iz A Mutha ..
Warren G Best moment in the rap game = Regulate G Funk Era , I Want It All
Snoop Dogg's Best moment in the rap game = Chronic , Doggystyle , Murder Was The Case Soundtracc .....
You can't TELL nobody nothing, especially an artist. The reason all those records worked was because that was where the artists were at that time. It came out of that enviorment and time period. Forcing yourself into that frame of mind when your heart isn't in it is not "rapping about real life". It's funny how fans will throw around orders for artists to switch up their style and think it's acceptable. If another group of fans or a label head did that and told them to make club tracks or this or that and the artist did, you'd say it was "selling out". Does nobody see the hypcrocisy here?
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ya need to understand that they are no longer the same people. They grew up
Daz grew up? lol. Have you missed his youtube videos, and childish outburts over the years?
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Daz grew up? lol. Have you missed his youtube videos, and childish outburts over the years?
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Homie i dont think u understand where i'm coming from. A lot of people take a piece out of somebody's life and say thats who they are which is fucking bullshit, thats basically what ur doing. We can see there faults and flaws, but they cant see ours, and if u truly listened to his music u would understand that it has more meaning than it has ever had, it may not be as hood and gutta like it was, but when u listen to his music now he has more to say in my opinion, therefore he has grown up in that area. They give us something every single year, the times has changed and they gave us so much already. Our vibes change, no one will never be satisfied. Why are u complaining, why cant u shut the fuck up, why cant u take it for what it is, if u dont understand that then thats a area in your life where U NEED TO GROW UP!! ya complain and then expect them to be nice, come on man.
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I'll always remember Mack 10's reaction when Nima asked him if he was jumped by the 4life crew. Priceless. Dubcnn running the game. ;D
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Daz grew up? lol. Have you missed his youtube videos, and childish outburts over the years?
Homie i dont think u understand where i'm coming from. A lot of people take a piece out of somebody's life and say thats who they are which is fucking bullshit, thats basically what ur doing. We can see there faults and flaws, but they cant see ours, and if u truly listened to his music u would understand that it has more meaning than it has ever had, it may not be as hood and gutta like it was, but when u listen to his music now he has more to say in my opinion, therefore he has grown up in that area. They give us something every single year, the times has changed and they gave us so much already. Our vibes change, no one will never be satisfied. Why are u complaining, why cant u shut the fuck up, why cant u take it for what it is, if u dont understand that then thats a area in your life where U NEED TO GROW UP!! ya complain and then expect them to be nice, come on man.
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I know what you were trying to say, but to be fair, I have never really "complained" unjustly, nor expected them to rap about the same content they did in their higher critically acclaimed years. I understand artists have to grow, or adjust as they age, and agree on that front, but they have to adjust and grow while sustaining their ability to rap good, and flow good, or in producer terms "good beats" lol, and DJ Quik although I "prefer" his signature Safe & Sound/Rhythm-alism/Balance & Options sound like the majority, I understand he has to adapt, and he still (although I don't prefer his newer stuff) still comes out with "Quality" product no matter how much you like/dislike it, besides Under The Influence you can't deny the quality of the product he delivers consistently whilst growing and adapting his style.
Now this isn't about the content of which the DPG rap about, but rather the quality of their raps. Kurupt just sounds extremely lazy, like he can't even be bothered, and just churns out poor raps, inadequate of the ingredients rappers would use to be recognized as "talented" and worthy of praise, and I'm sorry, but Kurupts "Bitch Bitch, eat a fat Dick Bitch" filled in almost 90% of his stuff, and lazy one syllable rhymes with a sluggish flow nowadays doesn't deserve praise, and Daz is the same. Even some of his production sounds like it's being made with cheaper software, and lacks that professionally crafted sound.. His general character on youtube frontin' all 'gangsta' like, and acting like an immature child 90% of the time is off-putting, and if we as the fans are paying money for this year on year, and showing support, and giving "advise" of what we as fans expect improvement on, and assist their choices of direction, and they chose to ignore, and we continue to pay our hard earned cash, then why can't we give constructive criticism??? It's our right as a consumer to publicize our displeasure in a product if it doesn't meet our expections, which aren't going to be on the "Dogg Food" level or anything unrealistic like that because lets be honest here, Kurupt delivered well on Kuruption, and Streetz Iz a mutha os not everything is measured in "Dogg Food" expectations
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That is some fucking groupie dickrider shit if you wanna consider your favorite artists feelings before listening to a track.
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Also didn't Daz accept money for albums, but then never sent them out. wasn't it posted awhile back that a conversation took place, and the fan had to eventually DL it and Daz said something along the lines of "Good, Now you can finally hear it bitch". I mean That's when you know the little bitch pretty much is a asshole.
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Also didn't Daz accept money for albums, but then never sent them out. wasn't it posted awhile back that a conversation took place, and the fan had to eventually DL it and Daz said something along the lines of "Good, Now you can finally hear it bitch". I mean That's when you know the little bitch pretty much is a asshole.
That sounds like Daz. To speak to a fan who has gave you money to listen to an album, who is eager enough to want to sacrifice his money on YOU before the countless others in the game, that should be appreciated and valued. If you don't follow through with orders, or what you promise to deliver as a "business" then yeh people will contact you regularly for updates, as with ANY business. I know when I worked in Supply Chain, I used to phone up and drill companies who promised this date, and that date for things to arrive, but never even left their end, and if I wasn't sending e-mails or writing up a letter, I'd be on the phone to them 2 sometimes even 3 times a day because I had a ordering/items system to maintain, just the same as buying something for personal use IMO, if not more important to you because it's your own money, and we never ever got anyone using that language to us because we were the Customer, WE were keeping THEM in business and they would bend over backwards when they wern't being all nicey nicey feeding us BS lines, so why should it be any different for Daz??
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Yeah, that's where I draw the line. I'm always in support of the artists when it comes to them growing creatively and doing what they need to do but if you want to be a business man, you need to respect the consumer above anything else.
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Daz is a "hustler", he doesn't give a fuck ;)
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He will when his main source of income - Music - isn't supported as fully as it used to be due to his disrespectful language and attitude towards those who regularly buy it
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Daz is a "Moron", he doesn't give a fuck ;)
If you're still trying to be a Hustler after you've gone Platinum, be apart of one of the hugest things in Music, and fact you probably haven't been poor for over 15 year, then you're a moron. No other way around it. I mean its not like Suge Knight came in donkey punched a little nigga and took everything he had.
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i don't see how anyone can defend artists acting like straight up bitches. people are always gonna have something to say. if you're an artist and are going to talk to fans online you have to be willing to ignore disrespect.
i don't know how the fuck daz interacts with other people in day to day life based on how he does on here. he's so spring loaded he'd be yelling and crying every time a cashier gives him the wrong change or he breaks a nail.
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if i was a artist i wouldn't check internet forums, maybe if i'm in a studio to waste some time, see what your customers think about your product, other than that, i wouldn't give a shit about internet forums, unless its promotions
i can see where dpg are coming from, its all good to voice your opinon on the artists you listen too's music, theirs nuthin wrong wit construtive critism, but i feel certain times, fans take it too far, like wit all the random, unecessary personal attacks out of no where, it ain't that serious, i mean, i can understand if the artist is a snitch, sex offender, fag, frontman pussy chattin shit on the mic or anything along those type of lines, but most fans on intenet boards, i'd say 90% of most boards, are full of nerds and geeks that wouldn't say shit to an authentic artists face, true stories, so its not a big deal
me personally now, if i was a artist, understanding that, i wouldn't get pissed off wit internet forums, its entertainment to me, its jokes, for real, its not that serious