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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Rebel on October 03, 2009, 07:56:31 AM
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Eminem has announced plans to publicly disclose details surrounding his upcoming Relapse 2 album with DJ Whoo Kid this weekend. According to reports, Slim Shady will have a one-on-one with the G-Unit deejay on Saturday (October 3).
The Aftermath star will sit down with Shade 45's DJ Whoo Kid on Saturday, October 3 at 3pm ET, during the G Unit Saturdays program, to go in-depth about his highly-anticipated upcoming album, Relapse 2, his performance at Voodoo Festival in New Orleans on October 30th and his role in developing the new video game DJ Hero, scheduled to be released on October 27th. (Sirius Buzz)
Sirius announced today that it will broadcast two in-depth and uncensored interviews with Eminem on his Shade 45 channel in celebration of his channel's fifth anniversary. Eminem will speak with Shade 45's DJ Tony Touch as part of the Toca Tuesdays show on Tuesday, October 6 at 9:00 pm ET. Shade 45 is SIRIUS XM's uncensored, commercial-free hip-hop channel created by Eminem, Shady Records, Interscope Records and SIRIUS. (PR Newswire)
http://www.sohh.com/2009/09/eminem_to_spill_details_o.html
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Just a heads-up incase any of you wanted to catch this today. This wouldn't be a bad place to post info recieved from the interviews.
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This wouldn't be a bad place to post info recieved from the interviews.
I cross my fingers that he will announce following things;
-Just got dropped from Aftermath,Dre couldn't stand my woodpecker from space (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDhKs8Kt1GM) flow
-Dre has finally scraped Detox. (for good this time) and will concentrate on the "Not these niggaz again" (http://"Not these niggaz again") project instead.
-no Dre beats on Relapse 2.
-It full be a full fledged rock album,no rapping what's so ever.
lol at catching a diss for that :laugh:
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This wouldn't be a bad place to post info recieved from the interviews.
I cross my fingers that he will announce following things;
-Just got dropped from Aftermath,Dre couldn't stand my woodpecker from space (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDhKs8Kt1GM) flow
-Dre has finally scraped Detox. (for good this time) and will concentrate on the "Not these niggaz again" (http://"Not these niggaz again") project instead.
-no Dre beats on Relapse 2.
-It full be a full fledged rock album,no rapping what's so ever.
Hahaha... +1.
Btw, I posted a Bishop Lamont interview from Sep. '09 'cause I never saw it postd here. Anyways someone deleted my thread so I posting it in here:
http://acclaimmag.com/feature-article/items/bishop_lamont.html
In short, as of Sep. 7th, dude is still signed and working on music with the Doctor.
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nice goind chad, it sad but true everything you said is what everyone is thinking but too pussy & too busy dick grinding to come out & say it, major props that was my BIG laugh fo the day. ;D :laugh:
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http://rapradar.com/2009/10/03/eminem-says-just-blaze-has-4-or-5-tracks-on-relapse-2/
Apparently Just Blaze contributed a bulk of production to the album. Eminem revealed that there are 4-5 Just Blaze beats.
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the homies DJ Silk & Chocolate also have a track on Relapse 2
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8) about Just Blaze. He's been extremely quiet recently. Hope he's got some bangers for Em. Lol @ the fact the guy who produced Ice Ice Baby is working with Eminem.
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8) about Just Blaze. He's been extremely quiet recently. Hope he's got some bangers for Em. Lol @ the fact the guy who produced Ice Ice Baby is working with Eminem.
There workin with a lot more than just Eminem ;) Don't worry, they got bangers.
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yer i heard they were working on detox. whens that interview dropping? And btw Ice ice baby was a dope beat. If it had been someone respected rapping over it, it would get referred to alot more positively. It was just sorta ironic in a way
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yer i heard they were working on detox. whens that interview dropping? And btw Ice ice baby was a dope beat. If it had been someone respected rapping over it, it would get referred to alot more positively. It was just sorta ironic in a way
I gotta type up the part with Silk because I did them individually. I'll drop it soon though. GREAT interview.
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http://rapradar.com/2009/10/03/eminem-says-just-blaze-has-4-or-5-tracks-on-relapse-2/
Apparently Just Blaze contributed a bulk of production to the album. Eminem revealed that there are 4-5 Just Blaze beats.
Damn now thats a good look, never really heard Em over anything remotely like a Just Blaze beat...
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Just Blaze can produce some really dope material. That beat he he did for the olympics was on the next level shit.
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Just Blaze can produce some really dope material. That beat he he did for the olympics was on the next level shit.
true. that olympic shit was crazy. here are some personal favs for those who would like to listen to some of his works..
Who want what - Beanie Sigle
The Dynasty album's Intro, 1-900 hustla, stick to the script - Jay-z
M.A.R.C.Y - Memphis Bleek
and of course, Church for thugs, No more fun and games, Why you hate the game ... 8)
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that usher joint (throwback) is pretty damn ill too. that old article on detox said it was originally meant for dre too.
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T.I. - King Back; I'm Talkin' to You; Help Is Coming
3 FIRE Just Blaze beats.
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T.I. - King Back; I'm Talkin' to You; Help Is Coming
3 FIRE Just Blaze beats.
co-sign, especially those first 2... always thought those beats were :o even back when I copped that album
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when is it coming out?
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I have a feeling Relapse 2 is gonna be better then Relapse 1. Just from that mariah diss track, Em's flow is better than most of the shit on the first Relapse. He sounds more comfortable. Just Blaze is ill too and can make better beats than Dre sometimes. So i'm thinking he's gonna come with HEAT, especially for Eminem.
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Yup Blaze is part of the reason The Roc did so well
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Relapse was dope. I don't know what people are complaining about. Em at his worst, which Relapse wasn't, is still better than most artist spitting today.
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hopefully he drops some more shit
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JUST BLAZE ON RELAPSE 2!! :o :o
i don't know if eminem got the vocal presence to really get on a just blaze beat these days but that alone makes this album exciting to check.
Just blaze is easily one of the few producers out there who can claim to be in an elite group of 3-4 producers out their in mainstream music who would claim to be the best. Should be interesting.
I hope this album is good though. Relapse was half average, half garbage.
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JUST BLAZE ON RELAPSE 2!! :o :o
i don't know if eminem got the vocal presence to really get on a just blaze beat these days but that alone makes this album exciting to check.
Jigga doesn't have the most commanding presence on a track and he's made classics over Just beats. I think whatever they've cooked up is gonna be on some super dope shit
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Relapse was dope. I don't know what people are complaining about. Em at his worst, which Relapse wasn't, is still better than most artist spitting today.
that horrible flow/accent bullshit is unlistenable. unless he changes that shit up, this will be unlistenable as well.
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Relapse was dope. I don't know what people are complaining about. Em at his worst, which Relapse wasn't, is still better than most artist spitting today.
that horrible flow/accent bullshit is unlistenable. unless he changes that shit up, this will be unlistenable as well.
don't even try to use that argument , people won't hear you ... most of the members here want to keep believing Relapse is a great album ... while it's obviously not the case
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Relapse was dope. I don't know what people are complaining about. Em at his worst, which Relapse wasn't, is still better than most artist spitting today.
that horrible flow/accent bullshit is unlistenable. unless he changes that shit up, this will be unlistenable as well.
don't even try to use that argument , people won't hear you ...
most of the members here want to keep believing
Relapse jEM jEM binks (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jar+jar) is a great album artist... while it's obviously not the case
just had to fix that part ;) ;) ;D ;D
He can come correct on the Hip Hop tip like on for example Rabbit Run (8 Miles OST)....
but it seems he and his fans prefer his woodpecker from space (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDhKs8Kt1GM) flow and rock music.
Just like Snoops piece of shit Ego Trippin,most of Em's music is a mockery against Hip Hop... >:( >:( >:(
Related threads;
Ego Trippin is underrated (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=178487.0)
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Why Fans Do Not Allow Musical Growth In Their Artists? (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=172534.0)
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What will be Aftermath's legacy? (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=187044.0)
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stop acting like some1 really care if u dont like an album.
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people need to calm down and stop criticizing every aspect of the music.
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Just like Snoops piece of shit Ego Trippin,most of Em's music is a mockery against Hip Hop..."
Most of Em's music? Damn Chad thats a hell of a statement! His first 3 albums were all straight fire, Half of Encore was dope, and there are some undeniable bangers on Relapse. The kids flow is next level, noone is fucking with him when it comes to strictly spitting. He's made some garbage, but saying MOST of his music is a mockery to hip hop is a joke. Em seems to be really into the actual craft of rap music, which is a lot more than I can say for most of his artists. Slim Shady is a side of him, so I wouldnt call his 1st singles selling out either, he's just doing himself...
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relapse wasn't very impressive :nahnah:
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stop acting like some1 really care if u dont like an album.
people need to calm down and stop criticizing every aspect of the music.
people need to stop getting so emotional over someone's opinion: Vader is laughing at you ;D
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Just like Snoops piece of shit Ego Trippin,most of Em's music is a mockery against Hip Hop..."
Most of Em's music? Damn Chad thats a hell of a statement! His first 3 albums were all straight fire, Half of Encore was dope, and there are some undeniable bangers on Relapse. The kids flow is next level, noone is fucking with him when it comes to strictly spitting. He's made some garbage, but saying MOST of his music is a mockery to hip hop is a joke. Em seems to be really into the actual craft of rap music, which is a lot more than I can say for most of his artists. Slim Shady is a side of him, so I wouldnt call his 1st singles selling out either, he's just doing himself...
well, he's a pop artist.....
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stop acting like some1 really care if u dont like an album.
people need to calm down and stop criticizing every aspect of the music.
people need to stop getting so emotional over someone's opinion: Vader is laughing at you ;D
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Just like Snoops piece of shit Ego Trippin,most of Em's music is a mockery against Hip Hop..."
Most of Em's music? Damn Chad thats a hell of a statement! His first 3 albums were all straight fire, Half of Encore was dope, and there are some undeniable bangers on Relapse. The kids flow is next level, noone is fucking with him when it comes to strictly spitting. He's made some garbage, but saying MOST of his music is a mockery to hip hop is a joke. Em seems to be really into the actual craft of rap music, which is a lot more than I can say for most of his artists. Slim Shady is a side of him, so I wouldnt call his 1st singles selling out either, he's just doing himself...
well, he's a pop artist.....
Pop meaning popular yes he is
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stop acting like some1 really care if u dont like an album.
people need to calm down and stop criticizing every aspect of the music.
people need to stop getting so emotional over someone's opinion: Vader is laughing at you ;D
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Just like Snoops piece of shit Ego Trippin,most of Em's music is a mockery against Hip Hop..."
Most of Em's music? Damn Chad thats a hell of a statement! His first 3 albums were all straight fire, Half of Encore was dope, and there are some undeniable bangers on Relapse. The kids flow is next level, noone is fucking with him when it comes to strictly spitting. He's made some garbage, but saying MOST of his music is a mockery to hip hop is a joke. Em seems to be really into the actual craft of rap music, which is a lot more than I can say for most of his artists. Slim Shady is a side of him, so I wouldnt call his 1st singles selling out either, he's just doing himself...
well, he's a pop artist.....
Pop meaning popular yes he is
& he makes music for the pop charts ;)
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the homies DJ Silk & Chocolate also have a track on Relapse 2
You talkin about the dude who produced a lot of shit for Jayo Felony?
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Slim also said that Mr. "Kon Artist" Porter produced 2 songs for the record and to expect 50 Cent on the album (of course).
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Im lookinf forward to the album and think it will be a solid effort. As was relapse. Even if this album is classic people will refuse to admit it due to the fact thier standards are to high........and they just like a moan lol.
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im curious to hear what em sounds like over Just Blaze production...over the years ive lowered my expectations when it comes to Eminem releases, so that way hopefully i'll be pleasantly surprised by the end product...but Dre, Just Blaze and Mr. Porter can only be a good thing imo
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Damn, almost missed this. Just Blaze and Em sounds hype. Was wondering where Just Blaze was, he's been quite for the past 2 years other than those 2 fruity beats he did for T.I. and Maino.
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Finally Em goes out the box (production wise), i always wanted him to do an album with producers other than himself and dre, i hope Just/Mr Porter aint the only producers on it, i hope he uses some of the aftermath producers 8)
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Finally Em goes out the box (production wise), i always wanted him to do an album with producers other than himself and dre, i hope Just/Mr Porter aint the only producers on it, i hope he uses some of the aftermath producers 8)
I heard Alchemist did a song for the record... and then there's the old news of the Primo-produced "Keys to The City".
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Just like Snoops piece of shit Ego Trippin,most of Em's music is a mockery against Hip Hop..."
Most of Em's music? Damn Chad thats a hell of a statement!
His first 3 albums were all straight fire,
Half of Encore was dope,
and there are some undeniable bangers on Relapse.
well,only one dope track on his first;
Eminem
The Slim Shady LPInterscope Records (USA)
(http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/310/312978.jpg)
03. Guilty Conscience (Feat. Dr Dre)
Produced by Dr. Dre & Eminem
Contains an interpolation from " Go Home Pigs " , as contained in the film " Getting Straight "
which is a stroke of genius
Eminem The Marshall Mathers LP Interscope Records (USA)
(http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/360/369316.jpg)
03. Stan
Produced by The 45 King
Co-Produced by Eminem
Bass : Mike Elizondo
Guitar : Sean Cruse
another stroke of genius
09. Remember Me (Feat. RBX & Sticky Fingaz)
Produced by Dr Dre & Mel-Man
Bass : Mike Elizondo
Keyboards : Camara Kambon
average
10. I'M Back
Produced by Dr Dre & Mel-Man
Bass : Mike Elizondo
Guitar : John Bigham
dope beat wasted :-\
16. Kim
Produced by F.B.T.
another stroke of genius
EMINEM The Eminem Show Aftermath/Interscope
(http://cover6.cduniverse.com/CDUCoverArt/Music/60694932902.jpg)
3. Business
Produced and mixed by Dr.Dre
Keyboards: Ron Feemster
Bass & Guitars: Mike Elizondo
Background vocals: Traci Nelson (Truth Hurts)
another waste of a dope beat :-\
17. Say what you say
feat. Dr.Dre
Produced & mixed by Dr.Dre
Keyboards: Ron Feemster & Mike Elizondo
Guitar: Mike Elizondo
Phone call: Timbaland
average
^^^rest of that piece of shit is either crappy pop or rock :-[ ^^^
Eminem Encore Shady/Aftermath/Interscope records, 2004
(http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/530/537913.jpg)
05. Like Toy Soldiers
Produced By Eminem
Additional production by Luis Resto
Bass & guitars: Steve King
Keyboards by Luis Resto
* Contains interpolation of "Toy Soldiers", by M.Dawson, M.J. Margules
good
06. Mosh
Produced By Dr. Dre & Mark Batson
Guitars by Mike Elizondo
Keyboards by Mike Elizondo & Mark Batson
tight
13. Just Lose It
Produced By Dr.Dre & Mike Elizondo
Guitars by Mike Elizondo
Keyboards by Mike Elizondo & Mark Batson
* Contains interpolations from "U can't touch this", by R.James, A.Miller
* Contains lyrical excerpts from "Lose Yourself" and "Without me" by Eminem
EDIT; Sucks ass (mix up)
20. Encore / Curtains Down (feat. Dr. Dre & 50 Cent)
Produced By Dr. Dre & Mark Batson
Guitars by Mike Elizondo
Keyboards by Mike Elizondo & Mark Batson
Additional Keyboards by Luis Resto
the track is a little all over the place,but itīs alright
Eminem Relapse Aftermath/Interscope records, 2009
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2788/2a9100986bff4fb2952305af.jpg)
02. 3 A.M.
Produced by Dr. Dre
Keyboards by Mark Batson, Dawaun Parker, Trevor Lawrence Jr. & Mike Elizondo
Intro, Bass & Guitar by Mike Elizondo
Mixed by Dr. Dre
the woodpecker from space decided to fuck up a dope beat >:(
03. My Mom
Produced by Dr. Dre
Keyboards by Mark Batson, Dawaun Parker & Trevor Lawrence Jr
Guitar by Eric "Jesus" Coomes
Mixed by Dr. Dre
the woodpecker from space decided to fuck up a dope beat again,now I need a Valium >:( :-[
04. Insane
Produced by Dr. Dre
Keyboards by Mark Batson, Dawaun Parker, Trevor Lawrence Jr. & Mike Elizondo
Scratches by Trevor Lawrence Jr.
Guitar by Mike Elizondo
Mixed by Dr. Dre
the woodpecker from space decided to fuck up another dope beat
05. Bagpipes From Baghdad
Produced by Dr. Dre & Trevor Lawrence Jr.
Keyboards by Mark Batson, Dawaun Parker, Trevor Lawrence Jr. & Mike Elizondo
Guitar by Sean Cruse
Mixed by Dr. Dre
music to his ears? well the piece of shit you just wasted another dope beat with his woodpecker flow
06. Hello
Produced by Dr. Dre & Mark Batson
Keyboards by Mark Batson, Dawaun Parker & Trevor Lawrence Jr
Mixed by Dr. Dre
never meant to leave us? the dude can go AWOL again for all I care
08. Same Song & Dance
Produced by Dr. Dre & Dawaun Parker
Keyboards by Mark Batson, Dawaun Parker & Trevor Lawrence Jr
Guitar by Mike Elizondo
Mixed by Dr. Dre
another tight beat wasted >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
10. Medicine Ball
Produced by Dr. Dre & Mark Batson
Keyboards by Mark Batson & Dawaun Parker
Mixed by Dr. Dre
fuckings ill beat.... that would fit for example RBX perfect... ohhh no we got the woodpecker from space fucking it up instead >:( >:( >:( >:(
12. Stay Wide Awake
Produced by Dr. Dre
Keyboards by Mark Batson, Dawaun Parker & Trevor Lawrence Jr
Guitar by Mike Elizondo
Mixed by Dr. Dre
another ill beat... not sure who would sound good on it,but my ears hurts when listing to his woodpecker flow :-[ :-[ :-[
13. Old Time's Sake (feat. Dr. Dre)
Produced by Dr. Dre & Mark Batson
Keyboards by Mark Batson, Dawaun Parker & Trevor Lawrence Jr
Guitar by Eric "Jesus" Coomes
Mixed by Dr. Dre
so Dre decided to lower himself to retard flow to match Em's woodpecker flow? :-[ :-[ :-[ :-X >:( >:( >:( >:(
the beat is tight though.
14. Must Be The Ganja
Produced by Dr. Dre & Mark Batson
Keyboards by Mark Batson, Dawaun Parker & Trevor Lawrence Jr
Bass & Guitar by Eric "Jesus" Coomes
Background vocals by Traci Nelson
Mixed by Dr. Dre
He feels like dancing? I feel like smacking Dre in the head for giving the woodpecker another dope beat. >:( >:( >:(
16. Déjā Vu
Produced by Dr. Dre
Keyboards by Mark Batson & Dawaun Parker
Guitar by Sean Cruse
Mixed by Dr. Dre
another tight beat wasted >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
17. Beautiful
Produced by Eminem
Keyboards by Jeff Bass & Luis Resto
Bass & Guitar Jeff Bass
Mixed by Eminem & Mike Strange
he dropped his woodpecker flow :o :o :o :o but hey we missed his rock shit after all that high pitch shit :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
rock or not,brilliant lyrics...
18. Crack A Bottle (feat. Dr. Dre & 50 Cent)
Produced by Dr. Dre
Keyboards by Mark Batson & Dawaun Parker
Bass & Guitar by Eric "Jesus" Coomes
Sample submitted by Eric Danchick
Mixed by Dr. Dre
dope beat... but fuck the rest
20. Underground
Produced by Dr. Dre
Keyboards by Mark Batson & Dawaun Parker
Chorus vocals produced by Sauce
Chorus vocals by Kip Blackshire, Tamara Powell, Tavia Ivey & Lisa Ivey
Mixed by Dr. Dre
beat is insane :o :o :o no woodpecker flow this time around, but not fan of his regular flow either,so.....
Deluxe Edition Bonus Tracks:
21. My Darling
Produced by Eminem
fuckings brilliant... the last verse is insane :o :o :o
22. Careful What You Wish For
Produced by Eminem
song writer skills at it's best
8Mile OST
Lose Yourself
tight
Love Me (Eminem Obie Trice 50 Cent)
dope
8 Mile
dope
Rabbit Run
insane :o
Out of 100 something Em songs I got 31 in rotation,and half of those again I only got in rotation because of Dreīs beats :P :P :P :P
The kids flow is next level, no one is fucking with him when it comes to strictly spitting.
The D.O.C,Kurupt,Lady Of Rage,Crooked I,Chino XL,CanIbus etc.?
He's made some garbage, but saying MOST of his music is a mockery to hip hop is a joke.
is it? :P
Em seems to be really into the actual craft of rap music, which is a lot more than I can say for most of his artists.
Slim Shady is a side of him, so I wouldn't call his 1st singles selling out either, he's just doing himself...
There is no doubt that he is talented.
His song writer skills is at times insanely good.
So here comes the million dollar question,why and who made him make that crappy shit he usually does? (be it rock or woodpecker music)
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Your opinion is irrelevant if you thought "Just Lose It" was a good song. You Euros need to stick to the west coast section.
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Finally Em goes out the box (production wise), i always wanted him to do an album with producers other than himself and dre, i hope Just/Mr Porter aint the only producers on it, i hope he uses some of the aftermath producers 8)
Dre, Just & Mr. Porter won't be the only three. As I've said a few times, DJ Silk & Chocolate produced a joint on the album too.
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I Cant belive all the hate Relapse gets....When it was first came out evryone loved it, Yea the new voice was annoying but it was good enoff to forget he was even rapping like that, and after awhile you dont even notice it. Ems got a great catalog, and with Relapse 2 coming i can see it being better than first. Then evryone gunna be saying how great Em is agin
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^^ Props for the breakdown Chad, but its obvious you only check Em for the Dre beats. I'll agree to disagree ;)
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^^ Props for the breakdown Chad, but its obvious you only check Em for the Dre beats. I'll agree to disagree ;)
You're right,the only reason I have bothered to check his albums is because of Dre
But if you look closer at the breakdown,
about half of the tracks that I like (the Dre ones on relapse don't count,because other than the beat they suck ass) is produced by Em himself or others.
FYI; I hate the Em tracks not included in the breakdown.
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^^ Props for the breakdown Chad, but its obvious you only check Em for the Dre beats. I'll agree to disagree ;)
You're right,the only reason I have bothered to check his albums is because of Dre
But if you look closer at the breakdown,
about half of the tracks that I like (the Dre ones on relapse don't count,because other than the beat they suck ass) is produced by Em himself or others.
FYI; I hate the Em tracks not included in the breakdown.
Yeah I got that. It's crazy how Em's dopest material came when he channeled the B Rabbit character
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Your opinion is irrelevant if you thought "Just Lose It" was a good song. You Euros need to stick to the west coast section.
even though i don't understand Vader's opinion either, you need to respect it you idiot.
and shut up about Europeans, because we dominate this board :bandit:
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I Cant belive all the hate Relapse gets....When it was first came out evryone loved it, Yea the new voice was annoying but it was good enoff to forget he was even rapping like that, and after awhile you dont even notice it. Ems got a great catalog, and with Relapse 2 coming i can see it being better than first. Then evryone gunna be saying how great Em is agin
u sound like i do, whenever i used to purchase an album and it was trash.. because i purchased it i would literally sit there next to the speakers- close my eyes real tight and force myself to like it.
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in my opinion, Eminem has two classics, one near classic, a solid CD (Relapse) & a shit album.
top five dead or alive to me & that's all there is to it. 8)
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in my opinion, Eminem has two classics, one near classic, a solid CD (Relapse) & a shit album.
top five dead or alive to me & that's all there is to it. 8)
pretty much agree with this
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never mind...the silk and chocolate joint will NOT be on relapse 2
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in my opinion, Eminem has two classics, one near classic, a solid CD (Relapse) & a shit album.
top five dead or alive to me & that's all there is to it. 8)
pretty much agree with this
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^^ Props for the breakdown Chad, but its obvious you only check Em for the Dre beats. I'll agree to disagree ;)
You're right,the only reason I have bothered to check his albums is because of Dre
But if you look closer at the breakdown,
about half of the tracks that I like (the Dre ones on relapse don't count,because other than the beat they suck ass) is produced by Em himself or others.
FYI; I hate the Em tracks not included in the breakdown.
Yeah I got that. It's crazy how Em's dopest material came when he channeled the B Rabbit character
yep... non of that rock or corny shit. real hip hop ;)
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so Vader, you really kept Just Lose It?
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so Vader, you really kept Just Lose It?
Lol he liked "Just Lose It" but not "Deja Vu". "Deja Vu" was straight in every way, dope story telling, no accent, nice sombre beat
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so Vader, you really kept Just Lose It?
Lol he liked "Just Lose It" but not "Deja Vu". "Deja Vu" was straight in every way, dope story telling, no accent, nice sombre beat
yeah opinions are funny sometimes :laugh:
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so Vader, you really kept Just Lose It?
I checked... and :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
hell nah :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
I mixed the titles up with; :-[
Lose Yourself
http://www.youtube.com/v/xFYQQPAOz7Y&hl=en&fs=1
That track is gonna be what Eminem is remember for
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so Vader, you really kept Just Lose It?
I checked... and :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
hell nah :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
I mixed the titles up with; :-[
Lose Yourself
http://www.youtube.com/v/xFYQQPAOz7Y&hl=en&fs=1
lol!
well that makes more sense.
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get over yourself
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get over yourself
:laugh:
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From the interview with Tony Touch:
LP will be pretty different from Relapse 1.
Producers so far:
Dr. Dre
Just Blaze
Mr. Porter
Alchemist
Guests so far:
50 Cent
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so Vader, you really kept Just Lose It?
I checked... and :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
hell nah :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
I mixed the titles up with; :-[
Lose Yourself
http://www.youtube.com/v/xFYQQPAOz7Y&hl=en&fs=1
That track is gonna be what Eminem is remember for
on other words; what rap will be remembered for :-X >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
He should be killed for disrespecting the art of rap and making a mockery out of it >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Are you serious? That track is amazing. Sick beat, sick hook, sick flow, and even a good message. C'mon man, just admit you don't like Eminem you're an honest dude but your opinion is kind of biased on this one lol
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Ya, "Lose Yourself" is Em's greatest track ever.
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I didn't like "Relapse" when it first came out because of that weird accent also. But after listening to it a few times you can't even notice it and not every track has it. It's his best album since The Marshall Mathers CD. This is probably my favorite album of 09...
It will be hard to top...
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I didn't like "Relapse" when it first came out because of that weird accent also. But after listening to it a few times you can't even notice it and not every track has it. It's his best album since The Marshall Mathers CD. This is probably my favorite album of 09...
It will be hard to top...
I'm witcha homie. +1
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I didn't like "Relapse" when it first came out because of that weird accent also. But after listening to it a few times you can't even notice it and not every track has it. It's his best album since The Marshall Mathers CD. This is probably my favorite album of 09...
It will be hard to top...
I'm witcha homie. +1
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so Vader, you really kept Just Lose It?
I checked... and :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
hell nah :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
I mixed the titles up with; :-[
Lose Yourself
http://www.youtube.com/v/xFYQQPAOz7Y&hl=en&fs=1
That track is gonna be what Eminem is remember for
on other words; what rap will be remembered for :-X >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
He should be killed for disrespecting the art of rap and making a mockery out of it >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Are you serious? That track is amazing. Sick beat, sick hook, sick flow, and even a good message.
C'mon man, just admit you don't like Eminem you're an honest dude but your opinion is kind of biased on this one lol
Just Lose It is amazing? :o :-X :-X :-X
anyway...
It's known fact by now that I don't like Em..... I was actually a little too kind in my breakdown :P
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^no, Lose Yourself is amazing lol.
you said "it is the track rap will be remembered for" & acted like the world was coming to an end.
he implied that Lose Yourself is real good & it isn't really a problem to him that it will be "the posterboy" song for rap.
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Personally, I still think "Stan" is his greatest song. Actually, I think that's one of Hip Hop's greatest songs overall... maybe even top 100.
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Finally Em goes out the box (production wise), i always wanted him to do an album with producers other than himself and dre, i hope Just/Mr Porter aint the only producers on it, i hope he uses some of the aftermath producers 8)
i do hope that people will realise that Eminem will use the accent when he likes to, Dre or no Dre.
just look at the track Eminem did with Alchemist, earlier this year
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Personally, I still think "Stan" is his greatest song. Actually, I think that's one of Hip Hop's greatest songs overall... maybe even top 100.
Yeah Stan was a dope concept, and the video worked tied in so well with it
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i am telling you guys, Eminem is top five (top 10 at most) of all time.
we haven't even talked about Infinite & that album was real dope, in my opinon.
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i am telling you guys, Eminem is top five (top 10 at most) of all time.
we haven't even talked about Infinite & that album was real dope, in my opinon.
I'm with ya on that bro, but he's always gonna get dismissed by "real hip hop heads" not only because he was so successful but because he's white...
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damn cham click you put em in the top 10 or 5?
thats crazy but IMO hes overrated like theres no tomorrow
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damn cham click you put em in the top 10 or 5?
thats crazy but IMO hes overrated like theres no tomorrow
the way i look at it; MMLP & SSLP = classics; Infinite & The Eminem Show = near classics; Relapse = real solid (was feelin' it; mostly flow & the beats); Encore = shit (with the exception of a few songs).
his best songs are among the best, in my opinion.
influence wise = like no other (besides a select few)
flow wise = top 5, no question.
lyrically = unreal, stayed personal, took a different approach then everyone else.
overall = top 5-10 all time.
i am telling you guys, Eminem is top five (top 10 at most) of all time.
we haven't even talked about Infinite & that album was real dope, in my opinon.
I'm with ya on that bro, but he's always gonna get dismissed by "real hip hop heads" not only because he was so successful but because he's white...
i would say it was somewhat of a factor, but it also had to do with his controversial & awesome music.
but i wouldn't judge greatness based of success to begin with.
if Eminem sold a total of 8 copies in all his albums combined, it doesn't affect how good the music is. 8)
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aite cham click i think we gon have to disagree wit this
IMO hes one of the most overrated of all time if not the most
aite take what you said
if Eminem sold a total of 8 copies in all his albums combined, it doesn't affect how good the music is.
therefore jus cuz his albums are classic i dont rate him as bein one of the best
IMO his flow on them were dope but the production is what helped him
theres no way in this lifetime rakim isnt better than eminem
theres prolly some underground rappers better than eminem...lol
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aite cham click i think we gon have to disagree wit this
IMO hes one of the most overrated of all time if not the most
aite take what you said
if Eminem sold a total of 8 copies in all his albums combined, it doesn't affect how good the music is.
therefore jus cuz his albums are classic i dont rate him as bein one of the best
IMO his flow on them were dope but the production is what helped him
theres no way in this lifetime rakim isnt better than eminem
theres prolly some underground rappers better than eminem...lol
Albums are only classic if the musics good, not if they sell well. Em has 2 classics, 3 near and one average. His discography speaks for itself, he never compromised who he was for sales either. Sure you may think theres a lot of 'technically' better emcees, but if they can't create a choesive product and make a classic album they don't even belong near the top ten. Em can rap with the best of them, has amazing song writing ability, and has craft 5 amazing albums...
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aite cham click i think we gon have to disagree wit this
IMO hes one of the most overrated of all time if not the most
aite take what you said
if Eminem sold a total of 8 copies in all his albums combined, it doesn't affect how good the music is.
therefore jus cuz his albums are classic i dont rate him as bein one of the best
IMO his flow on them were dope but the production is what helped him
theres no way in this lifetime rakim isnt better than eminem
theres prolly some underground rappers better than eminem...lol
opinion is opinion, but i didn't say he was the best; just one of them.
Pac, Cube, Nas, Rakim, maybe Big L are better.
even though i'll put Em right in their with that class.
notice everybody i named was before Eminem & a few months ago i was preaching the that the farther back you go the "better" the rappers you will find lol.
i truly believe since people place Eminem in such a class with such legends that it only brings more hate his way, true story.
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nah i feel what your sayin but its some of the craziest shit EVER that eminem is made out to be a king but others arent on the same level cuz they might not have done as much as eminem
aite i got that part that for example rakim hasnt done as much by droppin as many classic albums or albums period but im talkin best rapper eminem shouldnt be in the top 5 str8 up
im not sayin hes wack but rakim bar 4 bar would MURDER eminem and others would too
i jus dont see all the hype behind eminem for real
aite cham click its a done deal..after hearin that new rakim
rakim>>>>eminem
lol
aite cham click i think we gon have to disagree wit this
IMO hes one of the most overrated of all time if not the most
aite take what you said
if Eminem sold a total of 8 copies in all his albums combined, it doesn't affect how good the music is.
therefore jus cuz his albums are classic i dont rate him as bein one of the best
IMO his flow on them were dope but the production is what helped him
theres no way in this lifetime rakim isnt better than eminem
theres prolly some underground rappers better than eminem...lol
opinion is opinion, but i didn't say he was the best; just one of them.
Pac, Cube, Nas, Rakim, maybe Big L are better.
even though i'll put Em right in their with that class.
notice everybody i named was before Eminem & a few months ago i was preaching the that the farther back you go the "better" the rappers you will find lol.
i truly believe since people place Eminem in such a class with such legends that it only brings more hate his way, true story.
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so Vader, you really kept Just Lose It?
I checked... and :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
hell nah :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
I mixed the titles up with; :-[
Lose Yourself
http://www.youtube.com/v/xFYQQPAOz7Y&hl=en&fs=1
That track is gonna be what Eminem is remember for
on other words; what rap will be remembered for :-X >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
He should be killed for disrespecting the art of rap and making a mockery out of it >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Are you serious? That track is amazing. Sick beat, sick hook, sick flow, and even a good message.
C'mon man, just admit you don't like Eminem you're an honest dude but your opinion is kind of biased on this one lol
Just Lose It is amazing? :o :-X :-X :-X
anyway...
It's known fact by now that I don't like Em..... I was actually a little too kind in my breakdown :P
^no, Lose Yourself is amazing lol.
hope you're joking :P :P :P
you said "it is the track rap will be remembered for" & acted like the world was coming to an end.
;D ;D ;D ;D
Personally, I still think "Stan" is his greatest song.
dope track....
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Truth is if Eminem was put next to rakim on the spot Eminem would out rhyme Rakim.
Rakim and Eminem are on the same caliber of song creation.
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Truth is if Eminem was put next to rakim on the spot Eminem would out rhyme Rakim.
Rakim and Eminem are on the same caliber of song creation.
Truth.
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Truth is if Eminem was put next to rakim on the spot Eminem would out rhyme Rakim.
Rakim and Eminem are on the same caliber of song creation.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3185/3060735974_536a538667_b.jpg)
They probably have made songs together at the infamous Aftermath era for Rakim, but we know we'll never hear them in the near future.
:'( :'(
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IMO hes one of the most overrated of all time if not the most
As an MC, Eminem is prolly one of the best that's out there, he's tight as fuck but sometimes he rhymes about so silly shit that people don't wanna see it.
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yeah and rakim is above and beyond eminem IMO
rakim could, should and SHOULD give eminem a run for his money
rakim can still spit.....he was mad at dre thats why his album came out wack...haha
IMO hes one of the most overrated of all time if not the most
As an MC, Eminem is prolly one of the best that's out there, he's tight as fuck but sometimes he rhymes about so silly shit that people don't wanna see it.
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yeah and rakim is above and beyond eminem IMO
rakim could, should and SHOULD give eminem a run for his money
rakim can still spit.....he was mad at dre thats why his album came out wack...haha What
Why would him being mad at Dre have anything to do with his album quality? Say what you will about bar for bar or whatever, Eminem is one of the very best. The guy can spit but also write. He's in very rare company when it comes to people who could do both at the level that he does.
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haha nah i jus said that cuz rakim'salbum came out wack
but there are few rappers that can make em run for miles
em is cool but dope?
nah hes not dope
does he write all of his muzik?
yeah and rakim is above and beyond eminem IMO
rakim could, should and SHOULD give eminem a run for his money
rakim can still spit.....he was mad at dre thats why his album came out wack...haha What
Why would him being mad at Dre have anything to do with his album quality? Say what you will about bar for bar or whatever, Eminem is one of the very best. The guy can spit but also write. He's in very rare company when it comes to people who could do both at the level that he does.
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haha nah i jus said that cuz rakim'salbum came out wack
but there are few rappers that can make em run for miles
em is cool but dope?
nah hes not dope
does he write all of his muzik?
yeah and rakim is above and beyond eminem IMO
rakim could, should and SHOULD give eminem a run for his money
rakim can still spit.....he was mad at dre thats why his album came out wack...haha What
Why would him being mad at Dre have anything to do with his album quality? Say what you will about bar for bar or whatever, Eminem is one of the very best. The guy can spit but also write. He's in very rare company when it comes to people who could do both at the level that he does.
If Em writes all his music? WTF man. Dude is one of the greatest lyricists and writers ever. He has his own style and I could hardly imagine anybody to be able to write for him. Who could? Seriously, saying Em has ghostwriters is dumb.
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didnt say he has ghostwriters...altho some of his ryhmes are simple
whats so great about eminem?
you think hes better than krs one, gza?
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didnt say he has ghostwriters...altho some of his ryhmes are simple
whats so great about eminem?
you think hes better than krs one, gza?
Well then, what does "does he write all of his muzik?" mean? He's better than these two yeah, KRS-One has been puttin out mostly bullshit after 97 and GZA is not even the best on Wu Tang although he's lyrically great but his flow is very sleepy.
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nah i was jus askin
whats weird is em might be writin for others....i have heard (from people on the inside) ::)
but damn em not better than krs one? damn gza is a slower rapper but damn not better than gza?
not the best in wu tang?
we need to have some debates....lets get it
haha
didnt say he has ghostwriters...altho some of his ryhmes are simple
whats so great about eminem?
you think hes better than krs one, gza?
Well then, what does "does he write all of his muzik?" mean? He's better than these two yeah, KRS-One has been puttin out mostly bullshit after 97 and GZA is not even the best on Wu Tang although he's lyrically great but his flow is very sleepy.
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whats so great about eminem?
you think hes better than KRS-One?
jEM jEM don't even make my top 500 list :D
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haha chad you a fool dogg
aite where does em rank on your list then big dogg?
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haha chad you a fool dogg
aite where does em rank on your list then big dogg?
He don't!
He's a brilliant songwriter though. ;)
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damn so em isnt even in your list of top ranked rappers/mc's/artists etc...?
interestin....why tho?
not good enough? lol
so he can be a wack rapper but a dope song writer?
haha chad you a fool dogg
aite where does em rank on your list then big dogg?
He don't!
He's a brilliant songwriter though. ;)
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Vader is an Eminem hater ;)
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didnt say he has ghostwriters...altho some of his ryhmes are simple
whats so great about eminem?
you think hes better than krs one, gza?
Eminem and KRS-One is apples and oranges to me. I think KRS has just that great commanding flow and he's one of the all-time best in the game but to me, Walk On, you seem like the kind of dude who just because someone makes music that ain't your cup of tea, you can't respect it for how good it is. Eminem is not only a great lyricist but the guy writes great songs. I mean, is he a neccesarily the best at either, I don't know. But I think the majority of artists who could be considered better song writers probably aren't on his level in terms of lyrical prowess and vice versa. I mean, it's hard for a lot of people to get behind a Caucasion rapper whose loved by so many MTV pop fans but beyond that, the guy is fucking good at what he does.
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Vader is an jEM jEM binks hater ;)
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thats cool again hes cool at what he does
but i mean the reason im comparin is cuz rakim, krs one, gza, and others dont get the same attention that this rapper does and IMO they are light years ahead of of em
that dont mean em is wack but hes jus not on their level IMO
didnt say he has ghostwriters...altho some of his ryhmes are simple
whats so great about eminem?
you think hes better than krs one, gza?
Eminem and KRS-One is apples and oranges to me. I think KRS has just that great commanding flow and he's one of the all-time best in the game but to me, Walk On, you seem like the kind of dude who just because someone makes music that ain't your cup of tea, you can't respect it for how good it is. Eminem is not only a great lyricist but the guy writes great songs. I mean, is he a neccesarily the best at either, I don't know. But I think the majority of artists who could be considered better song writers probably aren't on his level in terms of lyrical prowess and vice versa. I mean, it's hard for a lot of people to get behind a Caucasion rapper whose loved by so many MTV pop fans but beyond that, the guy is fucking good at what he does.
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didnt say he has ghostwriters...altho some of his ryhmes are simple
whats so great about eminem?
you think hes better than krs one, gza?
Eminem and KRS-One is apples and oranges to me. I think KRS has just that great commanding flow and he's one of the all-time best in the game but to me, Walk On, you seem like the kind of dude who just because someone makes music that ain't your cup of tea, you can't respect it for how good it is. Eminem is not only a great lyricist but the guy writes great songs. I mean, is he a neccesarily the best at either, I don't know. But I think the majority of artists who could be considered better song writers probably aren't on his level in terms of lyrical prowess and vice versa. I mean, it's hard for a lot of people to get behind a Caucasion rapper whose loved by so many MTV pop fans but beyond that, the guy is fucking good at what he does.
I wanted to use just the same phrase yesterday but I didn't. Don't know why lol. But yeah to me, you can't compare just like that Em to KRS or GZA or most MC's that shined a lot in the early and mid 90's. I mean they really don't have any similarities. It's like comparing Jay-Z to Andre 3K. I could see how you compare him to let's say Nas or Rakim or Kool G Rap in terms of flow, lyricism, song structure and everything. Guys like them are on the same league and style with Em. I don't think you can just put a random rapper next to another random rapper and compare them just like that because they are both rappers.
Fuck it, I just woke up, don't know if I make a point. :D
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aite thats i mean it shouldnt make a difference....were talkin talent and who can spit
as long as the rapper can spit he qualifies, now not that eminem dont spit but compared to those hes not as good
again that dont mean hes wack
i mean nas at his best should murder em
kool g rap at his best should crush em (and this is the same rapper say is the best rapper alive right now still to this day)
rakim should send.....SHOULD SEND EMINEM TO HELL WITH THE DOPE LYRICS AND WRITIN HE CAN DO
ASSUMIN RAKIM WRITES HIS OWN MUZIK, HES ON ANOTHER PLANET OF DOPENESS WHEN IT COMES TO WRITIN SONGS IMO LET ALONE BEIN THE LYRICIST THAT HE IS
didnt say he has ghostwriters...altho some of his ryhmes are simple
whats so great about eminem?
you think hes better than krs one, gza?
Eminem and KRS-One is apples and oranges to me. I think KRS has just that great commanding flow and he's one of the all-time best in the game but to me, Walk On, you seem like the kind of dude who just because someone makes music that ain't your cup of tea, you can't respect it for how good it is. Eminem is not only a great lyricist but the guy writes great songs. I mean, is he a neccesarily the best at either, I don't know. But I think the majority of artists who could be considered better song writers probably aren't on his level in terms of lyrical prowess and vice versa. I mean, it's hard for a lot of people to get behind a Caucasion rapper whose loved by so many MTV pop fans but beyond that, the guy is fucking good at what he does.
I wanted to use just the same phrase yesterday but I didn't. Don't know why lol. But yeah to me, you can't compare just like that Em to KRS or GZA or most MC's that shined a lot in the early and mid 90's. I mean they really don't have any similarities. It's like comparing Jay-Z to Andre 3K. I could see how you compare him to let's say Nas or Rakim or Kool G Rap in terms of flow, lyricism, song structure and everything. Guys like them are on the same league and style with Em. I don't think you can just put a random rapper next to another random rapper and compare them just like that because they are both rappers.
Fuck it, I just woke up, don't know if I make a point. :D
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I don't think you can just put a random rapper next to another random rapper and compare them just like that because they are both rappers.
Normally that would be the truth....
But in jEM jEMīs case you can compare him with 500 random rappers for all I care :D :D
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thats cool again hes cool at what he does
but i mean the reason im comparin is cuz rakim, krs one, gza, and others dont get the same attention that this rapper does and IMO they are light years ahead of of em
that dont mean em is wack but hes jus not on their level IMO
I just don't see the "not on their level" aspect of it. Yes, KRS-One and Rakim are veterans in the game and when Em was only two or so albums deep, I could see this as an issue with the long term career signifance but it's ten years later and he's proven to have staying power. I'm a huge KRS fan and he still makes great music but there's nothing I can think of that he's put out in the last eight or so years that can rival a "Lose Yourself" or "Stan" in terms of just well-written and produced songs. I think when it comes to writing emotion, Eminem is in that Tupac-Scarface class of writers. Obviously, he's from a different background so the content is slightly different but "Rock Bottom" is as good a portrait of white class poverty as some of its urban equivalents are in terms of ghetto living. When he switched up to doing stuff where he ripped on the presurres that came with fame, I think he did a great job with that as well.
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aite but str8 up rapper vs rapper or rapper vs mc or rapper vs lyricist etc....
where do you rank these as whos better....forget albums jus str8 up lyrical & delivery
em
scarface
krs one
gza
kool g rap
rakim
thats cool again hes cool at what he does
but i mean the reason im comparin is cuz rakim, krs one, gza, and others dont get the same attention that this rapper does and IMO they are light years ahead of of em
that dont mean em is wack but hes jus not on their level IMO
I just don't see the "not on their level" aspect of it. Yes, KRS-One and Rakim are veterans in the game and when Em was only two or so albums deep, I could see this as an issue with the long term career signifance but it's ten years later and he's proven to have staying power. I'm a huge KRS fan and he still makes great music but there's nothing I can think of that he's put out in the last eight or so years that can rival a "Lose Yourself" or "Stan" in terms of just well-written and produced songs. I think when it comes to writing emotion, Eminem is in that Tupac-Scarface class of writers. Obviously, he's from a different background so the content is slightly different but "Rock Bottom" is as good a portrait of white class poverty as some of its urban equivalents are in terms of ghetto living. When he switched up to doing stuff where he ripped on the presurres that came with fame, I think he did a great job with that as well.
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I can't do what you're saying.
If it was a freestyle battle i'm sure Em would win. KRS would probably be competition but my gut tells me the rest of'em probably can't freestyle that well.
Rakim & Kool G Rap are legendary because they paved paths. When you look at their competition during their era they took it to another level. Em is a product of them...that's to say he can be better but he can't. When you're original you become a teacher and a student may surpass the teacher but it doesn't erase them. Ya dig?
On a personal level,
Rakim
Eminem
KRS-One
Kool G Rap
GZA
Scarface
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holy shhhhhh
you have gza, kool g rap, scarface.....muthafuckin scarface below eminem?
SCARFACE? DAMN
even gza.....gza below eminem?
and damn above krs one
again freestylin is one thing but rappin.....come on em even to this day all those could and should eat em alive.....if em can still spit so they can and theyve all proven includin em but damn why does this rapper get so much special treatment as bein the best ever?
thats interestin
why do you and others treat em like a god? haha
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I will admit I'm not a huge fan of the Wu-Tang clan. I'm a die hard fan of masta killah's work. And, I enjoy rza's solo bobby digital releases but the rest of'em i never got down with. my loss.
scarface is another cat who i never got into.
honestly, it's in that order of who i've listened to most. i'm not saying em's the best rapper alive or my favorite because a) i don't think there's a best rapper alive and B) he's nowhere near my favorite.
I barely listen to eminem or rakim.
I bump a lot of reks & masta killa now. bishop lamont here and there.
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I'm a huge KRS fan and he still makes great music but there's nothing I can think of that he's put out in the last eight or so years that can rival a "Lose Yourself" or "Stan" in terms of just well-written and produced songs.
Stan is a stroke of genius... and lose yourself is one of the few EM tracks that's listenable.
I guess its just me, but I take these KRS tracks any day over anything jEM jEM binks has ever put out:
-As You Already Know off Digital (2003)
-My Mind Is Racing off Keep Right (2004)
-I was there off Hip Hop lives (2008)
-House Of hits (feat. Chief Rocker Busy Bee) off Hip Hop lives (2008)
-Rising To The Top off Hip Hop lives (2008)
-Hip Hop Lives off Hip Hop Lives (2008)
-Kill A Rapper off Hip Hop Lives (2008)
-criminal minded 2008 (with beat intro) (random track 2008)
-Radio (random track 2008)
-The DJ (Revolution , random track 2008)
-Robot off Survival Skills (2009)
-Past Present Future off (2009)
8) 8) 8) 8)
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Eminem to me was at his best pre-Eminem Show (I really dig his 8 Mile work, can;t remember if that was before or after Eminem Show).Almost everything he did before that album is top notch material
I can say the same about Boogie Down Productions KRS-One.A large portion of the material he did as Blastmaster KRS-One is dope as fuck whereas I don't really feel his later releases as "KRS-One".Eminem s definately a better spitter to me, KRS MIGHT be the all around slightly better artist, but not by much.But that might just be me, I'm not a big KRS fan.His beats are another story tho, as a producer he shits on Eminem ;D
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I can say the same about Boogie Down Productions KRS-One.
A large portion of the material he did as Blastmaster KRS-One is dope as fuck whereas I don't really feel his later releases as "KRS-One".
I can dig that...
I stopped listen to KRS around "Sex & Violence" (92)... and just recently got into him again.
BDP/KRSīfirst two albums shits on pretty much everything that's released in rap's history period.
But why compare KRS to jEM jEM binks?
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^^I wouldn't be comparing them if it wasn't for all the other comparisons made in the thread, and the ones between KRS and Em in particular
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holy shhhhhh
you have gza, kool g rap, scarface.....muthafuckin scarface below eminem?
SCARFACE? DAMN
even gza.....gza below eminem?
and damn above krs one
again freestylin is one thing but rappin.....come on em even to this day all those could and should eat em alive.....if em can still spit so they can and theyve all proven includin em but damn why does this rapper get so much special treatment as bein the best ever?
Why should they or could they eat Em alive? Because they aren't as mainstream? That seems to be what your qualifiactions are for these odd-ass lists. Let's take guys that hip-hop circles will respect and throw them in with Eminem, who is obviously a mainstream artist, and of course, everyone that is a traditional hip-hop fan is going to agree with you and say they are all better than Eminem. Scarface "might" be a better writer. I don't know about that but as far as lyricsists go, Em is definitely better. I don't know what you qualify as "special treatment". Thing is people like him and Jay-Z are always going to be given a good deal of hate for whatever they do because they have a crossover audience and most rap fans will completely look past whatever skills they have and say, "Well, how can they be as good as this rapper? He doesn't have fans that listen to Taylor Swift or whoever?". Thing is if Scarface or Rakim were in an LL Cool J position, people would bitch about them too and say they are getting unfair attention. Only cats who are allowed that kind of love are rappers who die before their time.
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still cant believe people like relapse...eminem fell out of my top ten with that one...if i was Dre i would feel like dude spat in my face the way he wasted those beats...deja vu and beautiful were the only songs id even sit through again...
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Why should they or could they eat Em alive? Because they aren't as mainstream? That seems to be what your qualifiactions are for these odd-ass lists. Let's take guys that hip-hop circles will respect and throw them in with Eminem, who is obviously a mainstream artist, and of course, everyone that is a traditional hip-hop fan is going to agree with you and say they are all better than Eminem. Scarface "might" be a better writer. I don't know about that but as far as lyricsists go, Em is definitely better. I don't know what you qualify as "special treatment". Thing is people like him and Jay-Z are always going to be given a good deal of hate for whatever they do because they have a crossover audience and most rap fans will completely look past whatever skills they have and say, "Well, how can they be as good as this rapper? He doesn't have fans that listen to Taylor Swift or whoever?". Thing is if Scarface or Rakim were in an LL Cool J position, people would bitch about them too and say they are getting unfair attention. Only cats who are allowed that kind of love are rappers who die before their time.
That was so on point, I have to give you a +1. People are too concerned with what is "real" hip-hop, if it's good music it's good music, whether it's mainstream or independent. The rest is irrelevant.
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Why should they or could they eat Em alive? Because they aren't as mainstream? That seems to be what your qualifications are for these odd-ass lists. Let's take guys that hip-hop circles will respect and throw them in with Eminem, who is obviously a mainstream artist, and of course, everyone that is a traditional hip-hop fan is going to agree with you and say they are all better than Eminem. Scarface "might" be a better writer. I don't know about that but as far as lyricists go, Em is definitely better. I don't know what you qualify as "special treatment". Thing is people like him and Jay-Z are always going to be given a good deal of hate for whatever they do because they have a crossover audience and most rap fans will completely look past whatever skills they have and say, "Well, how can they be as good as this rapper? He doesn't have fans that listen to Taylor Swift or whoever?". Thing is if Scarface or Rakim were in an LL Cool J position, people would bitch about them too and say they are getting unfair attention. Only cats who are allowed that kind of love are rappers who die before their time.
That was so on point, I have to give you a +1.
People are too concerned with what is "real" hip-hop, if it's good music it's good music, whether it's mainstream or independent. The rest is irrelevant.
That's true, but how someone can find
fart jokes,Jerry Springer & Jackass humor,bubble gum rap,horror themed mickey mouse voices and/or rock rap entertaining is beyond me. :P
So I guess I stick to my "real" Hip Hop.... ;D ;D
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Why should they or could they eat Em alive? Because they aren't as mainstream? That seems to be what your qualifications are for these odd-ass lists. Let's take guys that hip-hop circles will respect and throw them in with Eminem, who is obviously a mainstream artist, and of course, everyone that is a traditional hip-hop fan is going to agree with you and say they are all better than Eminem. Scarface "might" be a better writer. I don't know about that but as far as lyricists go, Em is definitely better. I don't know what you qualify as "special treatment". Thing is people like him and Jay-Z are always going to be given a good deal of hate for whatever they do because they have a crossover audience and most rap fans will completely look past whatever skills they have and say, "Well, how can they be as good as this rapper? He doesn't have fans that listen to Taylor Swift or whoever?". Thing is if Scarface or Rakim were in an LL Cool J position, people would bitch about them too and say they are getting unfair attention. Only cats who are allowed that kind of love are rappers who die before their time.
That was so on point, I have to give you a +1.
People are too concerned with what is "real" hip-hop, if it's good music it's good music, whether it's mainstream or independent. The rest is irrelevant.
That's true, but how someone can find
fart jokes,Jerry Springer & Jackass humor,bubble gum rap,horror themed mickey mouse voices and/or rock rap entertaining is beyond me. :P
So I guess I stick to my "real" Hip Hop.... ;D ;D
im with vader...and its not good music thats the point...there may even be a case that from a technical aspect his flow and structure is still on point...but artisically the album sucked big time...possible the worst album ive bought since 'shock value'
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Why should they or could they eat Em alive? Because they aren't as mainstream? That seems to be what your qualifications are for these odd-ass lists. Let's take guys that hip-hop circles will respect and throw them in with Eminem, who is obviously a mainstream artist, and of course, everyone that is a traditional hip-hop fan is going to agree with you and say they are all better than Eminem. Scarface "might" be a better writer. I don't know about that but as far as lyricists go, Em is definitely better. I don't know what you qualify as "special treatment". Thing is people like him and Jay-Z are always going to be given a good deal of hate for whatever they do because they have a crossover audience and most rap fans will completely look past whatever skills they have and say, "Well, how can they be as good as this rapper? He doesn't have fans that listen to Taylor Swift or whoever?". Thing is if Scarface or Rakim were in an LL Cool J position, people would bitch about them too and say they are getting unfair attention. Only cats who are allowed that kind of love are rappers who die before their time.
That was so on point, I have to give you a +1.
People are too concerned with what is "real" hip-hop, if it's good music it's good music, whether it's mainstream or independent. The rest is irrelevant.
That's true, but how someone can find
fart jokes,Jerry Springer & Jackass humor,bubble gum rap,horror themed mickey mouse voices and/or rock rap entertaining is beyond me. :P
So I guess I stick to my "real" Hip Hop.... ;D ;D
I'm with Vader...and its not good music thats the point...
there may even be a case that from a technical aspect his flow and structure is still on point...
but artistically
his albums
sucks big time...
some of the
worst albums
ever is done.
Fixed +1 ;)
So if you take away his technical flow,songwriter skills and the few stroke of genius tracks; Stan,Guilty Conscience & My Darling and killers Rabbit Run & Lose Yourself....
what you got left?
fart jokes,Jerry Springer & Jackass humor,bubble gum rap,horror themed mickey mouse voices and/or rock rap
Yeah,that's it ;D ;D ;D ;D
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we agree on his current status but to be fair his 1st 2 were bangers what did you think of the followin out of interest
rock bottom
way i am
bitch please 2
bad meets evil
role model
i mean yeah he still had the 'shock value' content back then but at least it sounded authentic and some of his reference were a lot less mainstream i.e sonny bono,dee barnes etc whereas now its like what can i say 'ooo miley cyrus' blah blah blah sounds forced and contrived but then maybe ive grew out of his target audience idk
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we agree on his current status but to be fair his 1st 2 were bangers what did you think of the following out of interest
rock bottom
Nice songwriting and nice beat, but got damn his voice is annoying :-[ :-[ :-[
way I am
ain't my thing :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
bitch please 2
below average.. prefer the OG.
bad meets evil
average
role model
fart joke shit wasted over dope beat.... >:( >:( >:( >:(
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we agree on his current status but to be fair his 1st 2 were bangers what did you think of the following out of interest
rock bottom
Nice songwriting and nice beat, but got damn his voice is annoying :-[ :-[ :-[
lol if you thought his voice was annoying then i can only imagine how horrendously bad you thought relapse was haha
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damn see chad is comin thru wit some bangers......i mean jus listen to THE DJ, that song is one of the dopest songs hip hop has put out.....jus listen to what hes sayin, the beat, the outro.
but yeah better than eminems borin muzik
I'm a huge KRS fan and he still makes great music but there's nothing I can think of that he's put out in the last eight or so years that can rival a "Lose Yourself" or "Stan" in terms of just well-written and produced songs.
Stan is a stroke of genius... and lose yourself is one of the few EM tracks that's listenable.
I guess its just me, but I take these KRS tracks any day over anything jEM jEM binks has ever put out:
-As You Already Know off Digital (2003)
-My Mind Is Racing off Keep Right (2004)
-I was there off Hip Hop lives (2008)
-House Of hits (feat. Chief Rocker Busy Bee) off Hip Hop lives (2008)
-Rising To The Top off Hip Hop lives (2008)
-Hip Hop Lives off Hip Hop Lives (2008)
-Kill A Rapper off Hip Hop Lives (2008)
-criminal minded 2008 (with beat intro) (random track 2008)
-Radio (random track 2008)
-The DJ (Revolution , random track 2008)
-Robot off Survival Skills (2009)
-Past Present Future off (2009)
8) 8) 8) 8)
thats interestin that you think em is a better lyricist than faceor alotta rappers. the reason they could or would eat jem jem alive.....lol @ chad for that but thats cuz they are dope at what they do, IMO em has gotten his support from the mtv white crowd, and i dont care that hes sold 80 million records or whatever, hes a overrated rapper and isnt as talented as the rappers that have been mentioned and theres more. hes jus not on their level, that dont mean hes wack but hes not the best, hes not the better rapper. I doubt he would still be the better rapper if he had only sold 8 million records to date, its all hype and its all overhyped
and yeah relapse was wack, that accent was garbage and dre wasted some good pieces of muzik on jem jem, nuthin too bangin tho but as far as lyrics, jem jem aint nuthin special
holy shhhhhh
you have gza, kool g rap, scarface.....muthafuckin scarface below eminem?
SCARFACE? DAMN
even gza.....gza below eminem?
and damn above krs one
again freestylin is one thing but rappin.....come on em even to this day all those could and should eat em alive.....if em can still spit so they can and theyve all proven includin em but damn why does this rapper get so much special treatment as bein the best ever?
Why should they or could they eat Em alive? Because they aren't as mainstream? That seems to be what your qualifiactions are for these odd-ass lists. Let's take guys that hip-hop circles will respect and throw them in with Eminem, who is obviously a mainstream artist, and of course, everyone that is a traditional hip-hop fan is going to agree with you and say they are all better than Eminem. Scarface "might" be a better writer. I don't know about that but as far as lyricsists go, Em is definitely better. I don't know what you qualify as "special treatment". Thing is people like him and Jay-Z are always going to be given a good deal of hate for whatever they do because they have a crossover audience and most rap fans will completely look past whatever skills they have and say, "Well, how can they be as good as this rapper? He doesn't have fans that listen to Taylor Swift or whoever?". Thing is if Scarface or Rakim were in an LL Cool J position, people would bitch about them too and say they are getting unfair attention. Only cats who are allowed that kind of love are rappers who die before their time.
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I'm a huge KRS fan and he still makes great music but there's nothing I can think of that he's put out in the last eight or so years that can rival a "Lose Yourself" or "Stan" in terms of just well-written and produced songs.
Stan is a stroke of genius... and lose yourself is one of the few EM tracks that's listenable.
I guess its just me, but I take these KRS tracks any day over anything jEM jEM binks has ever put out:
-As You Already Know off Digital (2003)
-My Mind Is Racing off Keep Right (2004)
-I was there off Hip Hop lives (2008)
-House Of hits (feat. Chief Rocker Busy Bee) off Hip Hop lives (2008)
-Rising To The Top off Hip Hop lives (2008)
-Hip Hop Lives off Hip Hop Lives (2008)
-Kill A Rapper off Hip Hop Lives (2008)
-criminal minded 2008 (with beat intro) (random track 2008)
-Radio (random track 2008)
-The DJ (Revolution , random track 2008)
-Robot off Survival Skills (2009)
-Past Present Future off Survival Skills (2009)
8) 8) 8) 8)
damn see chad is coming thru wit some bangers......
i mean jus listen to THE DJ, that song is one of the dopest songs hip hop has put out.....
just listen to what hes saying, the beat, the outro.
but yeah better than eminems boring muzik
The DJ is ill track.... real ill 8)
The only good jEM jEM is dead on a platter;
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The idea if relapse being a concept record where the serial killer is a metaphor for his drug issues is dope and interesting. Unfortunately, according to Eminem that's not how he arranged the album but is supposed to be funny. He failed in my opinion. No denying that.
But you're wrong to limit Eminem and his career to buttjokes. Part of what he did involved being offensive in order to reveal the hypocritical standards of the people judging him.
[Eminem (Dr. Dre):]
You find me offensive? I find you offensive
For finding me offensive
Hence if I should draw a line on any fences
If so to what extense if
Any, should I go? 'Cause it's getting expensive
Being on the other side of the courtroom on the defensive
They say that I cause extensive
Psychological nerve damage to the brain when I go to lengths this,
Far at other people's expenses
I say your all just too god damn sensitive
It's censorship
And it's down right blasphemous
Listen to shit now cause I won't stand for this
I actually like Eminem more during the era of the Eminem Show and through Encore and Curtain Call the Hits. While I enjoyed Relapse when I viewed it as a concept record since he's been outspoken about it I view it as a failure.
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But you're wrong to limit Eminem and his career to buttjokes.
Limit? I said;
That's true, but how someone can find
fart jokes,Jerry Springer & Jackass humor,bubble gum rap,horror themed mickey mouse voices and/or rock rap entertaining is beyond me. :P
So I guess I stick to my "real" Hip Hop.... ;D ;D
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real talk chad
and btw that krs one song is from dj revolution album king of decks
but do you agree jem jem is overrated?
yeah them lines action posted are aite....but compared to what gza, face, rza, have done jem jem isnt on their level and prolly never was or will be
he really messed up wit that relapse album
But you're wrong to limit Eminem and his career to buttjokes.
Limit? I said;
That's true, but how someone can find
fart jokes,Jerry Springer & Jackass humor,bubble gum rap,horror themed mickey mouse voices and/or rock rap entertaining is beyond me. :P
So I guess I stick to my "real" Hip Hop.... ;D ;D
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But you're wrong to limit Eminem and his career to buttjokes.
Limit? I said;
That's true, but how someone can find
fart jokes,Jerry Springer & Jackass humor,bubble gum rap,horror themed mickey mouse voices and/or rock rap entertaining is beyond me. :P
So I guess I stick to my "real" Hip Hop.... ;D ;D
real talk chad
and BTW that krs one song is from DJ revolution album king of decks
but do you agree jem jem is overrated?
yeah them lines action posted are aite....but compared to what gza, face, rza, have done jem jem isn't on their level and prolly never was or will be
he really messed up wit that relapse album
That's it... Revolutions album was whatever... other than the KRS track that is,so I changed the album title in my itunes.
Overrated?
As I said before dude ain't even on my radar...
Kill him; ;D
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oh my bad...alotta stuff goin on so i do forget info thats comin my way.... ;D
but thats cool and good to see that you do think he isnt on your radar
jus why does everyone think em is a god and the best of all time or this n that is crazy
go listen to some of rakims muzik and its INSANE
But you're wrong to limit Eminem and his career to buttjokes.
Limit? I said;
That's true, but how someone can find
fart jokes,Jerry Springer & Jackass humor,bubble gum rap,horror themed mickey mouse voices and/or rock rap entertaining is beyond me. :P
So I guess I stick to my "real" Hip Hop.... ;D ;D
real talk chad
and BTW that krs one song is from DJ revolution album king of decks
but do you agree jem jem is overrated?
yeah them lines action posted are aite....but compared to what gza, face, rza, have done jem jem isn't on their level and prolly never was or will be
he really messed up wit that relapse album
That's it... Revolutions album was whatever... other than the KRS track that is,so I changed the album title in my itunes.
Overrated?
As I said before dude ain't even on my radar...
Kill him; ;D
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oh my bad...alotta stuff goin on so i do forget info thats coming my way.... ;D
but thats cool and good to see that you do think he isn't on your radar
just why does everyone think em is a god and the best of all time or this n that is crazy
go listen to some of rakims muzik and its INSANE
But you're wrong to limit Eminem and his career to buttjokes.
Limit? I said;
That's true, but how someone can find
fart jokes,Jerry Springer & Jackass humor,bubble gum rap,horror themed mickey mouse voices and/or rock rap entertaining is beyond me. :P
So I guess I stick to my "real" Hip Hop.... ;D ;D
real talk chad
and BTW that krs one song is from DJ revolution album king of decks
but do you agree jem jem is overrated?
yeah them lines action posted are aite....but compared to what gza, face, rza, have done jem jem isn't on their level and prolly never was or will be
he really messed up wit that relapse album
That's it... Revolutions album was whatever... other than the KRS track that is,so I changed the album title in my itunes.
Overrated?
As I said before dude ain't even on my radar...
Kill him; ;D
(http://home.comcast.net/~jimsondergeld/PMEJarJarBinks.jpg)
Why?
I can only speculate...
-White?
-Timing? (Jerry Springer,Jackass and shit like that was very popular at the time) His music and words was pretty much the "soundtrack" for that.
Was it calculated?
Maybe.. but one thing is sure,his timing was perfect.
Proof; 80 million people related to that crap. :-[
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related or got it cuz it was in their face....what if rakim, sold out and made wack overrated muzik, hed prolly sell too maybe not as much cuz hes not white but hed sell
look at all the dope rappers that release meaningful albums, how much do they sell?
look at all the rappers that release wack muzik, how much do they sell?
look at eminem releasin muzik? how much does he sell? and what does he talk about to sell that many units?
oh my bad...alotta stuff goin on so i do forget info thats coming my way.... ;D
but thats cool and good to see that you do think he isn't on your radar
just why does everyone think em is a god and the best of all time or this n that is crazy
go listen to some of rakims muzik and its INSANE
But you're wrong to limit Eminem and his career to buttjokes.
Limit? I said;
That's true, but how someone can find
fart jokes,Jerry Springer & Jackass humor,bubble gum rap,horror themed mickey mouse voices and/or rock rap entertaining is beyond me. :P
So I guess I stick to my "real" Hip Hop.... ;D ;D
real talk chad
and BTW that krs one song is from DJ revolution album king of decks
but do you agree jem jem is overrated?
yeah them lines action posted are aite....but compared to what gza, face, rza, have done jem jem isn't on their level and prolly never was or will be
he really messed up wit that relapse album
That's it... Revolutions album was whatever... other than the KRS track that is,so I changed the album title in my itunes.
Overrated?
As I said before dude ain't even on my radar...
Kill him; ;D
(http://home.comcast.net/~jimsondergeld/PMEJarJarBinks.jpg)
Why?
I can only speculate...
-White?
-Timing? (Jerry Springer,Jackass and shit like that was very popular at the time) His music and words was pretty much the "soundtrack" for that.
Was it calculated?
Maybe.. but one thing is sure,his timing was perfect.
Proof; 80 million people related to that crap. :-[
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oh my bad...alotta stuff goin on so i do forget info thats coming my way.... ;D
but thats cool and good to see that you do think he isn't on your radar
just why does everyone think em is a god and the best of all time or this n that is crazy
go listen to some of rakims muzik and its INSANE
But you're wrong to limit Eminem and his career to buttjokes.
Limit? I said;
That's true, but how someone can find
fart jokes,Jerry Springer & Jackass humor,bubble gum rap,horror themed mickey mouse voices and/or rock rap entertaining is beyond me. :P
So I guess I stick to my "real" Hip Hop.... ;D ;D
real talk chad
and BTW that krs one song is from DJ revolution album king of decks
but do you agree jem jem is overrated?
yeah them lines action posted are aite....but compared to what gza, face, rza, have done jem jem isn't on their level and prolly never was or will be
he really messed up wit that relapse album
That's it... Revolutions album was whatever... other than the KRS track that is,so I changed the album title in my itunes.
Overrated?
As I said before dude ain't even on my radar...
Kill him; ;D
(http://home.comcast.net/~jimsondergeld/PMEJarJarBinks.jpg)
Why?
I can only speculate...
-White?
-Timing? (Jerry Springer,Jackass and shit like that was very popular at the time) His music and words was pretty much the "soundtrack" for that.
Was it calculated?
Maybe.. but one thing is sure,his timing was perfect.
Proof; 80 million people related to that crap. :-[
related or got it cuz it was in their face....what if rakim, sold out and made wack overrated muzik, hed prolly sell too maybe not as much cuz hes not white but hed sell
look at all the dope rappers that release meaningful albums, how much do they sell?
look at all the rappers that release wack muzik, how much do they sell?
look at eminem releasin muzik? how much does he sell? and what does he talk about to sell that many units?
Rakim was very popular in his prime.
So was Scarface/Geto Boys & RZA/Wu Tang Clan. (each has probably sold at least 30 million records)
But try to look at it with objective eyes,it's simple...
Common,if it wasn't for the strength of their banging music... I don't think many really related to Wu Tang's lyrics.
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true but since gza, rza, ghostface and the wu tang have sold less in comparison to em sellin that much (even tho alot of its on 2001) and other releases but regardless all that hes sold does that make him better?
thats as if what people are sayin otherwise theres no way in hell jem jem is better than gza, scarface, rakim...alone IMO
and i dont mind that im on my own planet and the only one that thinks this...call me dumb, wack, old, young but jem jem is overrated
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true but since gza, rza, ghostface and the wu tang have sold less in comparison to em selling that much (even tho alot of its on 2001) and other releases but regardless all that hes sold does that make him better?
thats as if what people are saying otherwise theres no way in hell jem jem is better than gza, scarface, rakim...alone IMO
and i don't mind that I'm on my own planet and the only one that thinks this...call me dumb, wack, old, young but jem jem is overrated
It don't but popular opinion has spoken....
I guess we have to live with it. :-[
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yeah thats wack but it is what it is...haha
true but since gza, rza, ghostface and the wu tang have sold less in comparison to em selling that much (even tho alot of its on 2001) and other releases but regardless all that hes sold does that make him better?
thats as if what people are saying otherwise theres no way in hell jem jem is better than gza, scarface, rakim...alone IMO
and i don't mind that I'm on my own planet and the only one that thinks this...call me dumb, wack, old, young but jem jem is overrated
It don't but popular opinion has spoken....
I guess we have to live with it. :-[
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But you're wrong to limit Eminem and his career to buttjokes.
Limit? I said;
That's true, but how someone can find
fart jokes,Jerry Springer & Jackass humor,bubble gum rap,horror themed mickey mouse voices and/or rock rap entertaining is beyond me. :P
So I guess I stick to my "real" Hip Hop.... ;D ;D
You're wrong for limiting him to just that as if he doesn't touch on social issues or explore personal feelings and emotions. Yes, he has a lot of material that's not appealing (material you have limited him to) but that's not all of his work.
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But you're wrong to limit Eminem and his career to buttjokes.
Limit? I said;
That's true, but how someone can find
fart jokes,Jerry Springer & Jackass humor,bubble gum rap,horror themed mickey mouse voices and/or rock rap entertaining is beyond me. :P
So I guess I stick to my "real" Hip Hop.... ;D ;D
You're wrong for limiting him to just that as if he doesn't touch on social issues or explore personal feelings and emotions. Yes, he has a lot of material that's not appealing (material you have limited him to) but that's not all of his work.
So if you take away his technical flow,songwriter skills and the few stroke of genius tracks;
Stan,Guilty Conscience & My Darling and killers Rabbit Run & Lose Yourself....
what you got left?
fart jokes,Jerry Springer & Jackass humor,bubble gum rap,horror themed mickey mouse voices and/or rock rap
Yeah,that's it ;D ;D ;D ;D
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everyone and anyone can disagree with me but when others agree em is overrated and not all what the world makes him out to be....
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everyone and anyone can disagree with me but when others agree em is overrated and not all what the world makes him out to be....
Thing is that is great you have an opinion but you're not really saying anything in eleven replies that you didn't say in two. You're pretty much just backpacking off of things that Vader said.
And what does the world make him out to be? There's just as many, if not more people who hate him than love him. Thing is for every one person that loves a popular celebrity, there's probably about ten people who wish that same person would die or at least fail miserably.
So if you take away his technical flow,songwriter skills and the few stroke of genius tracks;
Stan,Guilty Conscience & My Darling and killers Rabbit Run & Lose Yourself....
what you got left?
You'd still have Rock Bottom, If I Had, nearly every track on Marshall Mathers LP, his guest verse on Renegade, his guest verse on Forgot About Dre, his two diss tracks against Benzino, Till I Collapse, his guest verse on Xzibit's U Don't Know Me, Scary Movies with Royce Da 5'9, and many other songs.
Yes, he's done some mainstream commercial music to sell records but so has Tupac, Nas, Biggie, Wu-Tang, Kurupt, Redman, and the list goes on and on. Even Walk On's boy, Rakim's biggest claim to fame in the last decade was an R&B single for one of Dre's female vocalists. Everybody's compromising to get their money. Nobody's ignornat to what a major label deal entails yet all these artists are still signed to them. Why is that?
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So if you take away his technical flow,songwriter skills the few stroke of genius tracks;
Stan,Guilty Conscience & My Darling and killers Rabbit Run & Lose Yourself....
what you got left?
You'd still have Rock Bottom
Nice songwriting and nice beat, but got damn his voice is annoying :-[ :-[ :-[
If I Had
Holly shit it's torture to listen to his annoying voice.
Can you seriously listen to this?
nearly every track on Marshall Mathers LP
Crap rock
his guest verse on Renegade
on point... but the hook :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
his guest verse on Forgot About Dre
pointless crap
his two diss tracks against Benzino
can't remember them
Till I Collapse
on point
his guest verse on Xzibit's U Don't Know Me
can't remember it... searched youtube quick,with no relevant hits.
Scary Movies with Royce Da 5'9, and many other songs.
dope beat... Royce is cool.... but fuck jEMīs annoying voice.
Yes, he's done some mainstream commercial music to sell records but so has Tupac, Nas, Biggie, Wu-Tang, Kurupt, Redman, and the list goes on and on.
Even Walk On's boy, Rakim's biggest claim to fame in the last decade was an R&B single for one of Dre's female vocalists.
Everybody's compromising to get their money. Nobody's ignorant to what a major label deal entails yet all these artists are still signed to them. Why is that?
No doubt...
Most of the artists you mentioned have sold millions of records as well.
+ it don't take a scientist to understand why more people can relate to jEMīs shit than just about any other rapper. :P
I just happen to not be one of them ;)
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The song title for the Xzibit record is "Don't Approach Me". Couldn't remember it correctly at the time.
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The song title for the Xzibit record is "Don't Approach Me". Couldn't remember it correctly at the time.
On point lyrics... other than that it's nothing super special.
Lets say for the sake of argument he got 10-15 tight songs.
So what? So does a million other rappers.... if jEM VS >insert your favorite rapper< was ever the point of this thread? :P
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damn chad is really backin me up on this subject and he makes sense....still jem jem has no reason to be the best in the game or the best rapper or the best anythin...hes overrated but like chad said maybe 15 good songs....random number but so do others if not more....why does this rapper get so much credit?
his color has got to be the main reason
what other rapper got so much play on mtv than this rapper who happens to be white and makes commercial muzik that they play?
The song title for the Xzibit record is "Don't Approach Me". Couldn't remember it correctly at the time.
On point lyrics... other than that it's nothing super special.
Lets say for the sake of argument he got 10-15 tight songs.
So what? So does a million other rappers.... if jEM VS >insert your favorite rapper< was ever the point of this thread? :P
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Yes, because Eminem is white has had a huge influence on his career. This isn't a new argument and has been addressed by him since the start of his career with Dr.Dre.
Any artist can be simplified into their top 10 to 15 tracks. From Tupac to Rakim to Kool G to Jay-Z. Pointing that out means nothing.
Additionally, you're argument that,
So if you take away his technical flow,songwriter skills and the few stroke of genius tracks;
is flawed. That's part of what make Eminem so great. The fact that his flow is on point and he's a great song writer. if you applied that log that to other artist the same can be said for them. Every artist has a niche or a particular area they're most known for. What's your point?
That's like saying if you removed Rakim's talent what does he have left?
It's a stupid argument to make.
Additionally, this "sell out" vs. "underground" arugment is old, dead, and played out.
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Seriously chad, you needa stop checking Eminem threads, its obvious you hate dukes music, so why waste your time
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Seriously chad, you needa stop checking Eminem threads, its obvious you hate dukes music, so why waste your time
I admit it's a pointless discussion.
Can't remember why I bothered to enter it... :-[
Sorry... but if you read through my posts,I at least tried to be rational. (other than my obvious Jar Jar Binks pranks)
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nah chad brings good points....he isnt jus sayin fuck eminem
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The guy is saying he doesn't like Eminem's voice, so of course it's difficult to then appreciate the songs. However many people do like his voice and thus appreciate the lyricism
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aite then chad is he a good song writer?
is he a good rapper?
put aside you dont like his voice
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aite then chad is he a good song writer?
is he a good rapper?
put aside you don't like his voice
I have answered this a million times by now;
So if you take away his
-technical flow,
-songwriter skills
and the few stroke of genius tracks;
Stan,Guilty Conscience & My Darling and killers Rabbit Run & Lose Yourself....
what you got left?
fart jokes,Jerry Springer & Jackass humor,bubble gum rap,horror themed mickey mouse voices and/or rock rap
So was the CGI for Jar Jar Binks amazing?
Sure.
Was he annoying as fuck?
And maybe even single handily responsible for fucking up The Phantom Menace?
Yes,if you ask me...
but hey like some cats pointed out,why even bother.... ;)
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damn chad is really backin me up on this subject and he makes sense.
Sadly if he wasn't here, you'd be sinking because you really don't seem to have any points of your own to make.
still jem jem has no reason to be the best in the game or the best rapper or the best anythin...
Who said he is or was the best in anything?
why does this rapper get so much credit?
Credit for what? Examples?
his color has got to be the main reason
what other rapper got so much play on mtv than this rapper who happens to be white and makes commercial muzik that they play?
Um, Jay-Z. Lil Wayne. Kanye West, I'd say just about any other rapper who sells albums like Eminem gets exposure like him. It's not a great conspiracy. Yes, some of them are phenominally wack but guess what? The buying public doesn't always have outstanding taste. There is a reason why the artists who are on MTV also dominate the sales charts, radio waves, and magazine covers. Yes, talent is not always a factor but this isn't exclusively a music thing. Do you think Megan Fox gets all that exposure because she's the greatest actress in her field or because the Transformers movies were the best-made flicks of the past ten years? Whoever the public is interested in, that is who these media outlets go after. National exposure has never been a measuring stick for talent. Ever. That doesn't mean that anyone who is mainstream is automatically a no-talent hack. Thing is you are subscribing to the very same methods as the people you're bitching about except you're taking it to the opposite extreme. If Eminem were doing gold or worse on the same music and one of these guys' images was splashed all over MTV and magazine covers, you'd probably say they were "overrated" too. You're not really commenting on the talent or lack there of, you're commenting on the overexposure.
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Damn, pretty heated conversation going on.
Look - Em, like any other rapper, has got his virtues and his falls. He's shown he can blow minds with his flow, he can write deep songs that deal with tough issues, he can sell a lot of records. He's also shown that he can make some corny-ass tracks, he can do annoying voices and, generally put, make some utter tripe.
There's not a single artist in any genre that hasn't had their moments of greatness and their moments of absolute failure. BUT - because Eminem is so popular and in the brightest spotlight whenever he does anything, everything he does - good or bad - is blown the fuck up. You can't take away his good qualities and judge him for his shortcomings alone, just like you can't ignore the bad stuff he's done and just praise him for the good stuff he's done. Still, his fans hype his best stuff up to a ridiculous degree and his haters keep pointing fingers to the crappiest songs he's done. And so the world goes round 'n round again.
In my book - the guy's good. One of my favourites. But I'm not gonna pretend like my copy of Encore isn't just collecting dust for a reason.
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lol at action thinkin chad and I are the only ones who think eminem is overrated....lol
nah lil dogg...get out ya house....alotta people think hes overrated...go to a different area or listen to other muzik......lol
its all good
scarface>>>>>eminems life
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lol at action thinkin chad and I are the only ones who think eminem is overrated....lol
nah lil dogg...get out ya house....alotta people think hes overrated...go to a different area or listen to other muzik......lol
its all good
scarface>>>>>eminems life
Aside from the point you just don't like him, which is fine because I use the same logic to other rappes such as scarface, your & chad's reasoning at best weak. You say to remove what qualifies him as an artists and don't pay attention to his quality material and you ask us what's left? That's on stupid shit.
Nonetheless, I know you're not the only two people that think he's overrated. Of course other people think that. LOL at your dumbass self for even typing that totally irrelevant point. That's a totally left field comment to make.
And, talking about other folks on computers while typing on one? Come on son you're looking mighty suspect.
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damn GET YOUR WALK ON you are Eminem's Stan..thats bad... you reely hard on his dic ??? ???
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You say to remove what qualifies him as an artists and don't pay attention to his quality material and you ask us what's left? That's on stupid shit.
Translation; only a small body of his work is listenable.
But by the looks of it only Jimmy H. gets the point. +1
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+ 1 chad & jimmy
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Could somebody just post the link to the interview!
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wow lots of eminem hate in here... em is easily top 5 on my list his recent albums havent been the most impresive however his older work such as infinite slim shady lp marshal mathers and 8mile cd make up for it
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why is it eminem hate when someone doesnt like one of his cd's but they
might prolly own the rest of his or own alot of his?
the hater sounds like the person not understandin that the other person doesnt like eminems new style....thats not jus 1 person
alot of people werent feelin relapse...and they are feelin the production moreso than em
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how could you not consider eminem in your top 5 is all im saying
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over these 5 alone theres no way...absolute no way em is/was/will be better than these ever
in no order
gza
scarface
krs one
rakim
2pac
thats jus 5 rappers that em can never top....there are more those 5 for sure that i can think of right now
how could you not consider eminem in your top 5 is all im saying
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over these 5 alone theres no way...absolute no way em is/was/will be better than these ever
in no order
gza
scarface
krs one
rakim
2pac
thats jus 5 rappers that em can never top....there are more those 5 for sure that i can think of right now
how could you not consider eminem in your top 5 is all im saying
Thats your opinon but lyrically hes better then most you just named... and you can argue flow too
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damn thats crazy but to each is own but in this lifetime theres no way he ever was or will be better than them
and except for pac, which many consider the goat....all of them are still spittin dope lyrics to this day...so is em
so IMO they win 1 for 1 against em
if he changes his flow back to pre-eminem show then maybe he might be in this to......even consider jumpin up the ladder faster, but right now hes slippin down fast
but damn you think em is better than rakim, gza, face.....big face? FACEBOM? lol
and you said most so im assumin you meant pac as the one he isnt better than? haha
over these 5 alone theres no way...absolute no way em is/was/will be better than these ever
in no order
gza
scarface
krs one
rakim
2pac
thats jus 5 rappers that em can never top....there are more those 5 for sure that i can think of right now
how could you not consider eminem in your top 5 is all im saying
Thats your opinon but lyrically hes better then most you just named... and you can argue flow too
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over these 5 alone theres no way...absolute no way em is/was/will be better than these ever
in no order
gza
scarface
krs one
rakim
2pac
thats jus 5 rappers that em can never top....there are more those 5 for sure that i can think of right now
how could you not consider eminem in your top 5 is all im saying
Thats your opinon but
lyrically hes better then most you just named... and you can argue flow too
My dog returns for a quick laugh;
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damn chad's dogghouse smells the beef when its near....anyone who tries to say slim fast is dope...the doggs are let out.....lol