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Title: Malice in wonderland what to expect?
Post by: mlk93 on October 24, 2009, 10:10:30 AM: The recent leak and featuring of Snoop (with Nipsey ,g malone Belly...) makes me hope a good album and at the same time the featuring on the tracklist ,except the song with problem and nipsey ,scares me.So what can we excpect .An ego trippin(i liked it) type album or a Blue carpet treatment type album?
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Post by: PLANT on October 24, 2009, 10:28:18 AM: Its going to be a mix of Malice, and Wonderland.
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Post by: D-Nice on October 24, 2009, 11:02:54 AM: With Snoop, I have learned to expect the unexpected. Sometimes good, sometimes bad, but you can bet he will always try something new.
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Post by: Lebet on October 24, 2009, 11:50:31 AM: im sure he will rap on NEW beats, and will do best bangers ever =]
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Post by: Detox Is A Myth!!! on October 24, 2009, 12:01:16 PM: This really is an important album for Snoop, because an artist -- particularly a rapper -- can't have two lackluster albums in a row and survive the game. And I'm talking about from the perspective of his core fanbase. Ego Trippin was a disaster and didn't go platinum for the first time in Snoop's career, I believe. If Malice is similarly underwhelming, his career as a legitimate top-shelf rapper will be in serious jeopardy. The reason is because your fanbase will contract, and those outside the base are fickle and can't be relied upon as consumers of one's product. This is to say, long-time Snoop fans like myself, if he alienates us again, he could lose us for good. And what's an artist without a core fanbase? One whose career peters out, that's who. So from a business perspective, he really has to ensure he satisfies his fans who are on the fence about purchasing further Snoop albums. His reputation is on the line.

As for the artistic quality, I'm expecting an electronic, inorganic sound. Lots of processed stuff. I could be wrong, of course -- I'm just predicting. The real question for me is, with Snoop now on his 10th album and achieved all the success he could have ever hoped for, does he have anything left to say? We'll find out. I want to give him my $10, but he has to earn it. I'm not buying it "sight unseen" this time as I did with Ego Trippin, regretfully.

I slightly hesitatingly think he'll come through in the clutch when all is said and done.
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Post by: Jimmy H. on October 24, 2009, 12:09:38 PM: Quote from: Detox Is A Myth!!! on October 24, 2009, 12:01:16 PM
I'm not buying it "sight unseen" this time.
This will probably be the first Snoop album that I am going to wait to hear what the music sounds like before I buy. I actually enjoyed "Ego Trippin" but the early previews of some of the songs on "Malice" don't sound like my cup of tea.
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Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on October 24, 2009, 01:14:43 PM: another dope album by the best from the west
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Post by: snopafly on October 25, 2009, 03:27:56 AM: Quote from: Detox Is A Myth!!! on October 24, 2009, 12:01:16 PM
This really is an important album for Snoop, because an artist -- particularly a rapper -- can't have two lackluster albums in a row and survive the game. And I'm talking about from the perspective of his core fanbase. Ego Trippin was a disaster and didn't go platinum for the first time in Snoop's career, I believe. If Malice is similarly underwhelming, his career as a legitimate top-shelf rapper will be in serious jeopardy. The reason is because your fanbase will contract, and those outside the base are fickle and can't be relied upon as consumers of one's product. This is to say, long-time Snoop fans like myself, if he alienates us again, he could lose us for good. And what's an artist without a core fanbase? One whose career peters out, that's who. So from a business perspective, he really has to ensure he satisfies his fans who are on the fence about purchasing further Snoop albums. His reputation is on the line.

As for the artistic quality, I'm expecting an electronic, inorganic sound. Lots of processed stuff. I could be wrong, of course -- I'm just predicting. The real question for me is, with Snoop now on his 10th album and achieved all the success he could have ever hoped for, does he have anything left to say? We'll find out. I want to give him my $10, but he has to earn it. I'm not buying it "sight unseen" this time as I did with Ego Trippin, regretfully.

I slightly hesitatingly think he'll come through in the clutch when all is said and done.

I agree this is an inportant album for Snoop dogg, this is his 10th album, i am pretty sure he is not trying to make to many sidesteps. But anyway its pretty hard for every rapper right now. why is it that?

1) leaking off albums : with powerhouse torrent sites like Isohunt, The pirate bay. alot off people are just using this, its easy its just like google 2 sek album downloaded..

2) the internet: its a perfect way to promote albums and songs, but alot off people is just hearing songs on Myspace youtube etc.. fucking "pitbull" have 65 million wiews on a song on youtube, but look at his album sales

sure snoop have a big hardcore hiphop/rap fanbase, but he also have a big pop fanbase, he need to go both ways
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Post by: Mietek23 on October 25, 2009, 05:16:03 AM: I expect the worst solo album from Snoop D-O-Double G with some bullshit guest apperances like Soulja Boy and wack beats like "Gangsta Luv" - nothing more..
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Post by: Dre-Day on October 25, 2009, 12:25:20 PM: Quote from: mlk93 on October 24, 2009, 10:10:30 AM
The recent leak and featuring of Snoop (with Nipsey ,g malone Belly...) makes me hope a good album and at the same time the featuring on the tracklist ,except the song with problem and nipsey ,scares me.So what can we excpect .An ego trippin(i liked it) type album or a Blue carpet treatment type album?

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Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on October 25, 2009, 12:29:26 PM: With songs like Protocol and Word Of A Gangsta I was expecting a classic. With the news that those songs are not gonna be on the album I dont know what to expect. Maybe not a classic but a good album for sure.
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Post by: G-Funk on October 25, 2009, 04:04:57 PM: Quote from: Mietek23 on October 25, 2009, 05:16:03 AM
I expect the worst solo album from Snoop D-O-Double G with some bullshit guest apperances like Soulja Boy and wack beats like "Gangsta Luv" - nothing more..

same. I'm expecting only a certain amount of songs that I might like.
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Post by: PLANT on October 25, 2009, 04:11:37 PM: It will prolly be like every other Snoop record. It will have songs that you love, and song that you hate and wonder why they are on the album....Altho, there is supposed to be only 12 tracks on the album which is something new for a Snoop cd.
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Post by: Invincible on October 25, 2009, 06:13:21 PM: Quote from: PLANT on October 25, 2009, 04:11:37 PM
It will prolly be like every other Snoop record. It will have songs that you love, and song that you hate and wonder why they are on the album....Altho, there is supposed to be only 12 tracks on the album which is something new for a Snoop cd.

He said that for Ego Trippin aswell. And look what happened, we got 21 tracks. I wouldn't bet on it.
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Post by: We Fly High on October 25, 2009, 06:33:02 PM: it is 12 tracks confirmed.
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Post by: Invincible on October 25, 2009, 06:35:25 PM: Quote from: We Fly High on October 25, 2009, 06:33:02 PM
it is 12 tracks confirmed.

Ok, fair enough. Expect 8 bonus tracks then. :D
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Post by: Portugoal on October 28, 2009, 07:44:50 AM: I'm not feeling these new MIW tracks. The best I heard from it are the first 15 seconds of "Protocol".
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Post by: westside159 on November 01, 2009, 04:49:53 PM: wheres the tracclisting for the album ? i think it will be dope .. well see
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Post by: ironmike on November 01, 2009, 05:24:55 PM: Quote from: We Fly High on October 25, 2009, 06:33:02 PM
it is 12 tracks confirmed.
12 tracks only? i'm not confident that the album will be tight, because there's not much songs to choose from, and also snoop's judgement for selection of tracks.
would be better if its 18 tracks, so there's more of a chance i'll find some tracks that i like. oh well.
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Post by: woof on November 01, 2009, 05:33:27 PM: Quote from: Invincible on October 25, 2009, 06:35:25 PM
Quote from: We Fly High on October 25, 2009, 06:33:02 PM
it is 12 tracks confirmed.

Ok, fair enough. Expect 8 bonus tracks then. :D

u can expect the regular iTunes bonus tracks as well as Japan retail bonus

"2 Minutes Warning" produced by Terrace Martin
"Different Languages" with Jazmine Sullivan dedicated to Shante
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Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on November 01, 2009, 05:56:31 PM: so far we got

1.Gangsta Luv
2.Different Languages
3.I Wanna Rock
4.Upside Down
5.the brandy track
6. the other dream cut
7.the soljah boy track
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

what else am i missing
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Post by: woof on November 01, 2009, 06:04:12 PM: read the post above :D
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Post by: PLANT on November 01, 2009, 06:21:02 PM: this is the "Different Languages" track prod by Teddy Riley

only the beat playing without snoop verse but it sounds dope IMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/wh9n8KBq71w
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Post by: R1ZE on November 01, 2009, 08:41:32 PM: Wow, that Teddy Riley shit sounds amazing.
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Post by: KrazySumwhat on November 01, 2009, 10:49:12 PM: Iam expecting a good album but 12 tracks and soulja boy being on there dose worry me, but hey, taht track Dj quik did with Chingy actually wasnt bad....
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Post by: westside159 on November 02, 2009, 01:23:20 PM: Quote from: PLANT on November 01, 2009, 06:21:02 PM
this is the "Different Languages" track prod by Teddy Riley

only the beat playing without snoop verse but it sounds dope IMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/wh9n8KBq71w

man thats that bomb , i like that cut ... Different Languages = Fire
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Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on November 02, 2009, 11:54:04 PM: Pimpin aint Easy is from the album too right?
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Post by: We Fly High on November 03, 2009, 03:06:49 AM: not sure why.. but my favorite song, and i'm sure its going to be a lot of yours as well, has never been mentioned in any reviews so far..

da track is certified west coast classic (i know it hasnt been released yet - but im that confident). Vintage Snoop with the classic west coast sound.

but "2 Minute Warning" is fucking crazy too.. you guys are going to love that for sure.

Snoop dogg Millionaire is not on the album..
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Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on November 03, 2009, 06:13:12 AM: Niice im glad that Snoop Dogg millionaire is not part of it!! can we expect a tracklist soon?!
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Post by: quiksta80 on November 03, 2009, 07:36:39 AM: I know it isn't a reliable source but this is what was listed on wikipedia...

Intro
I Wanna Rock (Produced by Just Blaze)
2 Minute Warning (Feat. Raekwon and Bun B) (Produced by Pete Rock)
1800 (Feat. Swizz Beatz) (Produced by Just Blaze)
Different Languages (Feat. Jazmine Sullivan) (Produced by Nottz)
Gangsta Luv (Feat. The-Dream) (Produced By Tricky Stewart)
Pronto (Feat. Gucci Mane) (Produced by Polow da Don)
That’s Tha Homie (Feat. Timbaland) (Produced By Timbaland and Danja)
Booties Automatic (Feat. Rihanna) (Produced by Jonathan Rotem)
Upside Down (Feat. Problem & Nipsey Hussle) (Produced by Scoop DeVille)
Secrets (Feat. Kokane) (Produced by Battlecat)
Pimpin Ain’t EZ (Feat. R. Kelly) (Produced by Dr. Dre)
Luv Drunk (Feat. The-Dream) (Produced by Tricky Stewart)
World of a Gangsta (Produced by DJ Premier)
Special (Feat. Brandy & Pharrell) (Produced by The Neptunes)
"Outro"
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Post by: Trizzle on November 03, 2009, 07:43:30 AM: Secrets (Feat. Kokane) (Produced by Battlecat) 8) i hope it's real
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Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on November 03, 2009, 07:55:36 AM: Quote from: quiksta80 on November 03, 2009, 07:36:39 AM
I know it isn't a reliable source but this is what was listed on wikipedia...

Intro
I Wanna Rock (Produced by Just Blaze)
2 Minute Warning (Feat. Raekwon and Bun B) (Produced by Pete Rock)
1800 (Feat. Swizz Beatz) (Produced by Just Blaze)
Different Languages (Feat. Jazmine Sullivan) (Produced by Nottz)
Gangsta Luv (Feat. The-Dream) (Produced By Tricky Stewart)
Pronto (Feat. Gucci Mane) (Produced by Polow da Don)
That’s Tha Homie (Feat. Timbaland) (Produced By Timbaland and Danja)
Booties Automatic (Feat. Rihanna) (Produced by Jonathan Rotem)
Upside Down (Feat. Problem & Nipsey Hussle) (Produced by Scoop DeVille)
Secrets (Feat. Kokane) (Produced by Battlecat)
Pimpin Ain’t EZ (Feat. R. Kelly) (Produced by Dr. Dre)
Luv Drunk (Feat. The-Dream) (Produced by Tricky Stewart)
World of a Gangsta (Produced by DJ Premier)
Special (Feat. Brandy & Pharrell) (Produced by The Neptunes)
"Outro"

I wanna rock is produced by scoop deville
2minute warning was produced by Terrace
Pronto features Soljah Boy
Thats the homie was produced by Danja
Pimpin aint easy was produced by Nottz
World of a gangsta was produced by Soopafly
Special is a Blue Carpet treatment left over
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Post by: Invincible on November 03, 2009, 02:21:35 PM: Quote from: quiksta80 on November 03, 2009, 07:36:39 AM
I know it isn't a reliable source but this is what was listed on wikipedia...

Intro
I Wanna Rock (Produced by Just Blaze)
2 Minute Warning (Feat. Raekwon and Bun B) (Produced by Pete Rock)
1800 (Feat. Swizz Beatz) (Produced by Just Blaze)
Different Languages (Feat. Jazmine Sullivan) (Produced by Nottz)
Gangsta Luv (Feat. The-Dream) (Produced By Tricky Stewart)
Pronto (Feat. Gucci Mane) (Produced by Polow da Don)
That’s Tha Homie (Feat. Timbaland) (Produced By Timbaland and Danja)
Booties Automatic (Feat. Rihanna) (Produced by Jonathan Rotem)
Upside Down (Feat. Problem & Nipsey Hussle) (Produced by Scoop DeVille)
Secrets (Feat. Kokane) (Produced by Battlecat)
Pimpin Ain’t EZ (Feat. R. Kelly) (Produced by Dr. Dre)
Luv Drunk (Feat. The-Dream) (Produced by Tricky Stewart)
World of a Gangsta (Produced by DJ Premier)
Special (Feat. Brandy & Pharrell) (Produced by The Neptunes)
"Outro"

That tracklist is so fake. PR & Premier? No chance. I can't believe that someone actually sits there and makes up bullshit tracklists. They must be so bored.
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Post by: the ghost on November 03, 2009, 03:27:50 PM: I actually like that's the homie. Hope he has some other decent cuts on the record.
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Post by: PLANT on November 03, 2009, 04:37:35 PM: Quote from: We Fly High on November 03, 2009, 03:06:49 AM
not sure why.. but my favorite song, and i'm sure its going to be a lot of yours as well, has never been mentioned in any reviews so far..

da track is certified west coast classic (i know it hasnt been released yet - but im that confident). Vintage Snoop with the classic west coast sound.

but "2 Minute Warning" is fucking crazy too.. you guys are going to love that for sure.

Snoop dogg Millionaire is not on the album..
this is great news, cant wait!
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Post by: RedMagic213 on November 04, 2009, 04:24:01 AM: Ego Trippin 2 !!!!

Snoop too scared to drop a straight westcoast banger...and before you all start saying the whole "you gotta make worlwide appeal music" like how dre says...if from South Africa, and i love the westcoast sound. So no one can ever say that you cant drop a westcoast classic in 2009/10...

So bring on Ego Trippin 2/Malice in Wonderland...my friends havent pirated an album in ages. they are patiently waiting the release date ( leak release date that is )
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Post by: moe on November 04, 2009, 05:33:23 AM: Quote from: PLANT on October 24, 2009, 10:28:18 AM
Its going to be a mix of Malice, and Wonderland.
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Post by: ironmike on November 04, 2009, 05:43:38 AM: i'm startin to have a bad feelin this is going to be ego trippin pt2.
with the supposed rubbish guest lineup of guest artists and having only 12 tracks, it doesnt sound too convincing that this'll be a dope record.
i hope í'm wrong.