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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: blazeindave213 on November 01, 2009, 03:07:24 PM
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http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhJOQBj6dWVzo3DQ35
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what do 50 cent and the game have in common? we could go with their albums getting progressively worse throughout their careers, but the whole dissing jay-z to try and get attention/provoke a response is even lamer. 50 and game both lose.
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welll jayz is clearly a gay
but hes not as gay as 50
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^^ What are you, 10 year old or something?
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"Jay-Z Lost To Nas?"
this is the general consensus among hip hop heads. jay z couldnt touch Ether on his best day. theres no shame in that though...not many rappers could.
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and 50 couldn't even come close to seeing either of them on his best day.
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what do 50 cent and the game have in common? we could go with their albums getting progressively worse throughout their careers, but the whole dissing jay-z to try and get attention/provoke a response is even lamer. 50 and game both lose.
of course he is trying to stir shit up, he is dropping an album. im just surprised he hasnt dropped a diss song/mixtape yet. thats his thing when he drops a new album.
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NAS is the goat
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"Jay-Z Lost To Nas?"
this is the general consensus among hip hop heads. jay z couldnt touch Ether on his best day. theres no shame in that though...not many rappers could.
co sign
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In a purely song format Nas won but in real life Jay-Z won. Not only did he fuck his bitch but he ended being his boss. Additionally, Jay's life is arguable much better than Nas's - he's married to Beyone and he's super fucking rich. Nas is divorced, in debt, and paying huge sums of money to his ex.
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fuck Jay he a 3rd degree devil worshippin freemason hangin out at the Bohemian Grove gettin his shit pushed in by Dick Cheney.
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In a purely song format Nas won but in real life Jay-Z won. Not only did he fuck his bitch but he ended being his boss. Additionally, Jay's life is arguable much better than Nas's - he's married to Beyone and he's super fucking rich. Nas is divorced, in debt, and paying huge sums of money to his ex.
Well, I don't think that personal lives should reflect a feud based on artistic merits. And even if it did, unless you know both of these guys personally, we can't say who is living the happier existence. You can be married with money and still be miserable. On a success level, yes, Jay's bank account is bigger but that just means he's the better businessman.
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Look, Nas won the beef but playing advocates. Here's the thing. I really don't think you ca base this beef off of artistic integrity. It's always been personal. It started as snub and lowkey disses were changed but it wasn't much to ball over. When it got personal did the real disses start to fly.
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every beef has been personal, on one level or another.
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Nas won the battle, Jigga won the war...
Everyone knows in the battle though, Jigga took the L and aint been on the battle tip since
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I wonder if thats why 50 never responded to Nas?
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what do 50 cent and the game have in common? we could go with their albums getting progressively worse throughout their careers, but the whole dissing jay-z to try and get attention/provoke a response is even lamer. 50 and game both lose.
i like game,but i have to agree..jz came out the gates on both of them cats...and gave newyork a new anthem..plus three banging classy joints to vibe to...yeah they lost. 8)
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The thing about jay zs money is,hes sold eveything.Hes basically sold his life to live nation for that 100 million he gotHe sold off roca wear,he sold off rocafella..I wouldnt be surpised if 15 years from now jay z is flat broke because hes spent all his money.
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The thing about jay zs money is,hes sold eveything.Hes basically sold his life to live nation for that 100 million he gotHe sold off roca wear,he sold off rocafella..I wouldnt be surpised if 15 years from now jay z is flat broke because hes spent all his money.
Lol no chance, he coulda retired off of residuals a long time ago
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Isn't it basically a fact that Jay lost to Nas?
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The thing about jay zs money is,hes sold eveything.Hes basically sold his life to live nation for that 100 million he gotHe sold off roca wear,he sold off rocafella..I wouldnt be surpised if 15 years from now jay z is flat broke because hes spent all his money.
naw homie.that brotha got money on lock...he to smart for that.
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master p and suge knight were once considered brilliant business men with hundreds of millions saved.Anything can happen.And hes sold off everything that makes him money for up front cash settlements.That 100 million from live nation he got is for touring.He wont be making money off each tour he got that big sum up front.Thats not smart business at all.
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1st off..(suge is a ediot,who we all know just fucks off money on dumb shit).......master p still is one of the top money hiphop makers in the entertainment bizz(u didnt know that?)wow.goggle p up homie...alot of programs u watch he is behind(the silent money maker).p is always makeing loot.he never stoped...cause pimp my ride got him paid!!!thats his show not Xs..once again homie he the (silent money maker) behind the seen...better assssk some body....thats why he is called master p(it stands for (MASTER PLANE)...real talk.peace. 8)
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Yes but he also claimed bankruptcy and lost all his money.He did that like what ten years ago?My point is jay z is sitting pretty now but what about 10 or 15 years from now?Hes sold off everything that makes him money.Rocawear,rocafella,live nation gets all his tourng money.All his artists have left him.So wheres the money going to come from?Is he still going to be rapping in his 50s?Not likely.Hell dame basically did the same thing,sold off everything that was making him money to get money upfront and now look.You always see news of him losing houses and vehicles to debt.
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Isn't it basically a fact that Jay lost to Nas?
hell yeah! he lost...nigga got lyricaly burnt....whats your point. :-\
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Yes but he also claimed bankruptcy and lost all his money.He did that like what ten years ago?My point is jay z is sitting pretty now but what about 10 or 15 years from now?Hes sold off everything that makes him money.Rocawear,rocafella,live nation gets all his tourng money.All his artists have left him.So wheres the money going to come from?Is he still going to be rapping in his 50s?Not likely.Hell dame basically did the same thing,sold off everything that was making him money to get money upfront and now look.You always see news of him losing houses and vehicles to debt.
Master P didn't go broke. His label No Limit went bankrupt. There's a big difference. He filed Bankruptcy because his company wasn't making any money. He still has his own personal wealth.
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To me Takeover > Ether, Jay was actually telling the truth when dissing nas where as nas just sounded like a kid cockafella etc
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Yes but he also claimed bankruptcy and lost all his money.He did that like what ten years ago?My point is jay z is sitting pretty now but what about 10 or 15 years from now?Hes sold off everything that makes him money.Rocawear,rocafella,live nation gets all his tourng money.All his artists have left him.So wheres the money going to come from?Is he still going to be rapping in his 50s?Not likely.Hell dame basically did the same thing,sold off everything that was making him money to get money upfront and now look.You always see news of him losing houses and vehicles to debt.
Like I said, album and song residuals...
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In a purely song format Nas won but in real life Jay-Z won. Not only did he fuck his bitch but he ended being his boss. Additionally, Jay's life is arguable much better than Nas's - he's married to Beyone and he's super fucking rich. Nas is divorced, in debt, and paying huge sums of money to his ex.
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Can't disagree with that. As far as on "wax" though nas took it in my opinion but ya i don't think he got the last laugh ha. Well said.
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http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhfn9PFzyrUd9PvYvF
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I like Ace Hood and Khaled shame they brick
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Jay isn't Suge. Jay knows how to maintain relationships, and businesses. He's not gonna end up broke, plus he married to Beyonce.
Nas lost to Jay.
Nas and Jay are both better than 50.
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Jay isn't Suge. Jay knows how to maintain relationships, and businesses. He's not gonna end up broke, plus he married to Beyonce.
Nas lost to Jay.
Nas and Jay are both better than 50.
Jay knows how to maintain relationships?Thats laughable.And he sold off all his businesses theirs nothing left.Did you really just write that?And the term is ethered not taken over.Its pretty evident who won the battle.
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LOL ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQjTBzMcrYM&feature=player_embedded
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Hahaha 50 is a funny motherfucker :D
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shit, Am I the only one that thinks this shit is not funny, so corny, so imature its sad
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damn, 50's face looks weird when he's "crying"
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Lol i should have known better then to think for a second this was serious
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Lol, funny shit.
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To me Takeover > Ether, Jay was actually telling the truth when dissing nas where as nas just sounded like a kid cockafella etc
bing! jay spit facts on the takeover, while nas's rhymes were made up with rumours and name-calling...both tracks were dope to me, but i dont think Nas won the way everyone's saying 8)
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does 50's opinion really matter that much? so much so we get a separate thread on everything he says? :-\
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In truth I'd take BISD over BP3. 50 stepped up his game a bit (although his hooks were quite weak), Jay on the other hand has deteriorated and puts a load of popular artists on his album to keep sales up.
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woow, every song on the album is a single, ahahha
shit, really dont get
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what do 50 cent and the game have in common? we could go with their albums getting progressively worse throughout their careers, but the whole dissing jay-z to try and get attention/provoke a response is even lamer. 50 and game both lose.
Game has dropped 3 albums, ALL are dope. yourGod crooked still looking for Snoop to get him a solo deal
who lost?
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Jay isn't Suge. Jay knows how to maintain relationships, and businesses. He's not gonna end up broke, plus he married to Beyonce.
Nas lost to Jay.
Nas and Jay are both better than 50.
Jay knows how to maintain relationships?Thats laughable.And he sold off all his businesses theirs nothing left.Did you really just write that?And the term is ethered not taken over.Its pretty evident who won the battle.
HAHA MY BAD. I MEANT TO SAY
JAY LOST TO NAS
and yes, I do think Jay has a good business mind.
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Isn't it basically a fact that Jay lost to Nas?
hell yeah! he lost...nigga got lyricaly burnt....whats your point. :-\
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Rapper 50 Cent appeared on Philadelphia’s Power 99FM this morning (November 3) and addressed a number of controversial feuds currently taking place in Hip-Hop.
50 stopped by Miss Jones’ morning show and discussed Jay-Z’s feud with Philly artist Beanie Sigel, Jay-Z and Rick Ross.
Sigel recently dropped a track titled “Average Cat,” where he accused Jay-Z of abandoning artists on Roc-A-Fella, questioned Jay-Z’s loyalty and accused the mogul of locking him into his deal with the Roc.
50 Cent confirmed Sigel’s allegations on “Average Cat” that he almost signed the Philadelphia-bred rapper to his G-Unit Records, which at one point, was to jointly market a project by former Roc-A-Fella artist Freeway.
“He [Beanie Sigel] would have got at least $800,000 at that point to come over,” 50 Cent told Miss Jones. “Jay was telling him that he didn’t want to lose him. I think Jay and Puffy had these feelings toward me at one point I believe.”
During an interview with Charlamagne Tha God, Beanie Sigel revealed that he was close to signing a deal with G-Unit, but the deal was blocked by Jay-Z.
50 Cent confirmed this and also stated that he ran into the same issues when he attempted to bring estranged Bad Boy artist Mase into the G-Unit fold.
“They didn’t want to lose anything to me, while their energy was going on. Puff didn’t want to sign the Mase deal and Jay didn’t want to do that,” 50 Cent told Miss Jones today (November 3).
50 Cent has wasted no time replying to Rick Ross’ "Baby By Me" remix which hit the Internet yesterday dissing G-Unit.
"I’ve never seen a bigger fraud in Hip-Hop. He Just did a remix to Baby by Me. “It’ll count as a spin for my record. He’s an idiot. I’d be upset if my baby’s momma was out there. He’s broke. His last album sold 300,000 copies. His last record [Triple C’s Custom Cars and Cyles ] just like sold 4,000 records.”
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50 has stayed with Jay's name in his mouth recently, he needs to get over it already
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this thread about to get deleted like mine
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this thread about to get deleted like mine
didnt yours just get combined with the 17000 other "50 cent said" threads?
elano is forgiven tho cos of the language barrier
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this thread about to get deleted like mine
didnt yours just get combined with the 17000 other "50 cent said" threads?
elano is forgiven tho cos of the language barrier
nope, mine got deleted haha but it's all good I'm not trippin', I just posted in that one thread
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LOL ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQjTBzMcrYM&feature=player_embedded
Lol at 50's comment at the end "I could sell 8000 by accident"
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I deleted yours because it was already posted in the "various 50 cent interviews" thread, where I'm merging this one too.
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I deleted yours because it was already posted in the "various 50 cent interviews" thread, where I'm merging this one too.
yeah after I seen mine was deleted and was like wtf I noticed how this title had "various" in it 8)
just noticed too that he was in my state on 93.7 lol
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Check out his response at 4:15.......lol
http://www.youngandthefly.com/2009/11/50-cent-interview-with-kendra-g-radio.html
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lol
is it really that much news when 50 mentions another rapper in an interview? damn rap sucks nowadays
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I deleted yours because it was already posted in the "various 50 cent interviews" thread, where I'm merging this one too.
Good job, there will probably be dozens "50 says <insert outrageous claim/ridiculous diss>" threads the next weeks until and after the release of BISD.
LOL @ 50 signing M.O.P., Mobb Deep & tried to get Beanie Sigel for street cred..
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In a purely song format Nas won but in real life Jay-Z won. Not only did he fuck his bitch but he ended being his boss. Additionally, Jay's life is arguable much better than Nas's - he's married to Beyone and he's super fucking rich. Nas is divorced, in debt, and paying huge sums of money to his ex.
LOL @ Nas losing cuz he signed to Def Jam. U reaize Jay paid him $10million up front to sign? On top of that he got a huge budget and they gave him pretty much complete artistic control there. The Def Jam label was a pioneering black owned label and a complete iconic label to any real MC, especially in New York when Nas was coming up. And he put out really dope albums there. Nas wouldn't have found a better deal anywhere.
Nas continued throwin little shots at Jay well after Ether and Jay never responded. Then after Jay became prez one of the first things he does is go after Nas.
So saying that Nas lost cuz he signed to Def Jam is pretty illogical.
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In a purely song format Nas won but in real life Jay-Z won. Not only did he fuck his bitch but he ended being his boss. Additionally, Jay's life is arguable much better than Nas's - he's married to Beyone and he's super fucking rich. Nas is divorced, in debt, and paying huge sums of money to his ex.
LOL @ Nas losing cuz he signed to Def Jam. U reaize Jay paid him $10million up front to sign? On top of that he got a huge budget and they gave him pretty much complete artistic control there. The Def Jam label was a pioneering black owned label and a complete iconic label to any real MC, especially in New York when Nas was coming up. And he put out really dope albums there. Nas wouldn't have found a better deal anywhere.
Nas continued throwin little shots at Jay well after Ether and Jay never responded. Then after Jay became prez one of the first things he does is go after Nas.
So saying that Nas lost cuz he signed to Def Jam is pretty illogical.
Whatever Nas was paid is minuscule compared to what Jay made.
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This was a good interview. Some one actually interviews him about a critique. His response is well taken. It seems like if he was a completely independent artist his album would be pretty hardcore.
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This was a good interview. Some one actually interviews him about a critique. His response is well taken. It seems like if he was a completely independent artist his album would be pretty hardcore.
yeah, i thought so too.
50 basically explained the rap game perfectly, you have to use what's in to sell.
i blame the fans lol.
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this thread about to get deleted like mine
didnt yours just get combined with the 17000 other "50 cent said" threads?
elano is forgiven tho cos of the language barrier
SHUT UP ASSHOLE
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Yeah, but he should just admit he doesn't like Ja Rule. He should of just said "I hate that nigga. I did what I had to do to get him out of my way."
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Yeah, but he should just admit he doesn't like Ja Rule. He should of just said "I hate that nigga. I did what I had to do to get him out of my way."
lol, it would have been more entertaining; but 50 Cent always tries to tie in some business man shit.
he would pay to have that Jay-Z persona of being a deal making/business man type shit.
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In a purely song format Nas won but in real life Jay-Z won. Not only did he fuck his bitch but he ended being his boss. Additionally, Jay's life is arguable much better than Nas's - he's married to Beyone and he's super fucking rich. Nas is divorced, in debt, and paying huge sums of money to his ex.
LOL @ Nas losing cuz he signed to Def Jam. U reaize Jay paid him $10million up front to sign? On top of that he got a huge budget and they gave him pretty much complete artistic control there. The Def Jam label was a pioneering black owned label and a complete iconic label to any real MC, especially in New York when Nas was coming up. And he put out really dope albums there. Nas wouldn't have found a better deal anywhere.
Nas continued throwin little shots at Jay well after Ether and Jay never responded. Then after Jay became prez one of the first things he does is go after Nas.
So saying that Nas lost cuz he signed to Def Jam is pretty illogical.
Whatever Nas was paid is minuscule compared to what Jay made.
What I don't understand is how money figures into the equation when comparing the two. Because if you want to go by those rules, then Jimmy Iovine and the real heads of the hip hop industry are winning. They have been milking rappers for all they are worth all these years. If you want to look at the hip hop industry as a "business", then yes, Jay-Z is winning compared to Nas. Jay-Z is involved in all these business ventures and companies, while Nas has focused more on releasing quality music and establishing his strength as a music legend. Nas will always be the better rapper. Jay-Z will always be the better businessman. Whoever "wins", depends on what your definition of success is. If its all about making money, then Jay-Z won. If its all about releasing meaningful music, which imo is what hip hop is all about, then Nas won. Not to say that Jay-Z doesn't have a decent discography, but his music has always been more pop-oriented and he doesn't have the same lyrical ability as Nas.
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He doesn't?
Jay may be more sophisticated but I respect 50's business as much as I do Jay's.
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what do 50 cent and the game have in common? we could go with their albums getting progressively worse throughout their careers, but the whole dissing jay-z to try and get attention/provoke a response is even lamer. 50 and game both lose.
Game has dropped 3 albums, ALL are dope. yourGod crooked still looking for Snoop to get him a solo deal
who lost?
LAX was pure garbage.And why do you continuely talk about crooked i in situations that have nothing to do with him?You talk about him more then his biggest fans.
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In a purely song format Nas won but in real life Jay-Z won. Not only did he fuck his bitch but he ended being his boss. Additionally, Jay's life is arguable much better than Nas's - he's married to Beyone and he's super fucking rich. Nas is divorced, in debt, and paying huge sums of money to his ex.
LOL @ Nas losing cuz he signed to Def Jam. U reaize Jay paid him $10million up front to sign? On top of that he got a huge budget and they gave him pretty much complete artistic control there. The Def Jam label was a pioneering black owned label and a complete iconic label to any real MC, especially in New York when Nas was coming up. And he put out really dope albums there. Nas wouldn't have found a better deal anywhere.
Nas continued throwin little shots at Jay well after Ether and Jay never responded. Then after Jay became prez one of the first things he does is go after Nas.
So saying that Nas lost cuz he signed to Def Jam is pretty illogical.
Whatever Nas was paid is minuscule compared to what Jay made.
What I don't understand is how money figures into the equation when comparing the two. Because if you want to go by those rules, then Jimmy Iovine and the real heads of the hip hop industry are winning. They have been milking rappers for all they are worth all these years. If you want to look at the hip hop industry as a "business", then yes, Jay-Z is winning compared to Nas. Jay-Z is involved in all these business ventures and companies, while Nas has focused more on releasing quality music and establishing his strength as a music legend. Nas will always be the better rapper. Jay-Z will always be the better businessman. Whoever "wins", depends on what your definition of success is. If its all about making money, then Jay-Z won. If its all about releasing meaningful music, which imo is what hip hop is all about, then Nas won. Not to say that Jay-Z doesn't have a decent discography, but his music has always been more pop-oriented and he doesn't have the same lyrical ability as Nas.
I agree on many accounts with what you said. There are many definitions of success and there are definitely different interpretations. Nas is one of my favorite rappers so when I reflect on the individual situations I'm not hating. I think Nas won on wax, which matters to the artistic side of hip-hop and legacy, and then Jay won commercially for hip-hop, which matters just as much. And, I'm glad Nas signed to Def Jam though I don't think he has complete artistic control as someone tried to argue. Clearly, he does not for Nigger never got to see the light of day. Instead of we got an untitled album that was really dope but not as potent and powerful as it should have been. And, Jay has never denied being pop so I take him as excelling at what he does quite well.
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This was a good interview. Some one actually interviews him about a critique. His response is well taken. It seems like if he was a completely independent artist his album would be pretty hardcore.
haha yeah right
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lol
is it really that much news when 50 mentions another rapper in an interview? damn rap sucks nowadays
Its only because he has an album out so naturaly he is going to have more topics on him.
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Well I listen to Hip-Hop for the craft, and the music. Not to gasp over who has made money.
So Nas won.
Jay is a successful money maker, so what, so is Rick Ross, and his shit is whack.
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lol
is it really that much news when 50 mentions another rapper in an interview? damn rap sucks nowadays
Its only because he has an album out so naturaly he is going to have more topics on him.
thats fair enough if the topics are about the actual music...but obviously 50 is doing promo right now with the album due to come out, so to build up hype for it he talks shit in every interview, mentions another person in each one, and hence a new topic on what he said in this and that interview appears on here...typical 50
its not new and its not in the least bit surprising. it amuses me just how much of the board is taken up by the nonsense he says/does
oh and...
this thread about to get deleted like mine
didnt yours just get combined with the 17000 other "50 cent said" threads?
elano is forgiven tho cos of the language barrier
SHUT UP ASSHOLE
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IVI5W8Eg3Gs/SI8lYL-M6jI/AAAAAAAAABE/hJEyACF7rNQ/s320/YouMad.jpg)
:D
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Sigel going to G Unit, thats whats up
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This was a good interview. Some one actually interviews him about a critique. His response is well taken. It seems like if he was a completely independent artist his album would be pretty hardcore.
haha yeah right
We get it,you dont like 50 cent.Now get the fuck out of every topic about him.And by the way Im a fan of bishop but that who i gotta kill mixtape was garbage
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This was a good interview. Some one actually interviews him about a critique. His response is well taken. It seems like if he was a completely independent artist his album would be pretty hardcore.
haha yeah right
We get it,you dont like 50 cent.Now get the fuck out of every topic about him.And by the way Im a fan of bishop but that who i gotta kill mixtape was garbage
Excuse me bitch was the shit
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This was a good interview. Some one actually interviews him about a critique. His response is well taken. It seems like if he was a completely independent artist his album would be pretty hardcore.
haha yeah right
We get it,you dont like 50 cent.Now get the fuck out of every topic about him.And by the way Im a fan of bishop but that who i gotta kill mixtape was garbage
sorry, i didn't expect that you would get so emotional over a true statement