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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Detox Iz Not Active on November 30, 2009, 11:42:24 AM
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First of all, they are 100% wack, their voices are mad annoying and lyrics are weak. Why pac put these bitches on so many of his classic joints I will never know. Yuo would think Suge would tell him to keep them off these tracks
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I love Fatal, and Kadafi was dope. Other than that - I agree.
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Never really cared about them.Didn't mind their featurings.I do have the exact same opinion on big syke long beach has on outlawz.now why did pac put him on his songs remains a mystery to me, that guy is the definition of wack to me
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Never really cared about them.Didn't mind their featurings.I do have the exact same opinion on big syke long beach has on outlawz.now why did pac put him on his songs remains a mystery to me, that guy is the definition of wack to me
picture me rollin, classic track then that bitch ass muther fucker big syke has to open his damn mouth
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First of all, they are 100% wack, their voices are mad annoying and lyrics are weak. Why pac put these bitches on so many of his classic joints I will never know. Yuo would think Suge would tell him to keep them off these tracks
i understand your passion & point but stop talkin shyt, it was meant to happen wit the lawz they were chosen by 2pac so he obviously saw something in em that none of us fans see :)
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Never really cared about them.Didn't mind their featurings.I do have the exact same opinion on big syke long beach has on outlawz.now why did pac put him on his songs remains a mystery to me, that guy is the definition of wack to me
picture me rollin, classic track then that bitch ass muther fucker big syke has to open his damn mouth
please this just showes you have know clue what you are talking about big syke was dope ass gangsta rapper & part of thug life . he was one of 2pac main homies.i like big syke on thug life. the outlawz never ruined a song of 2pacs ever . . they were 2pac's soliders & that ment 2pac thought they were just a good as him & deserved their spot. 2pac always knew better then you .the outlawz are better then 75% of todays new school rappers. i rather listen to outlawz then gucci or lil wayne.
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Never really cared about them.Didn't mind their featurings.I do have the exact same opinion on big syke long beach has on outlawz.now why did pac put him on his songs remains a mystery to me, that guy is the definition of wack to me
picture me rollin, classic track then that bitch ass muther fucker big syke has to open his damn mouth
please this just showes you have know clue what you are talking about big syke was dope ass gangsta rapper & part of thug life . he was one of 2pac main homies.i like big syke on thug life. the outlawz never ruined a song of 2pacs ever . . they were 2pac's soliders & that ment 2pac thought they were just a good as him & deserved their spot. 2pac always knew better then you .the outlawz are better then 75% of todays new school rappers. i rather listen to outlawz then gucci or lil wayne.
who gives a fuck if they were his homies, they still suck dick on the mic
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Outlawz - IE: the remaining Outlawz - Noble, EDI, and Kastro & Napoleon are wack. Plain and simple!!!!
Sure they sounded raw back in 96/97, but that's because not only did they have 2Pac guide and direct them, but he also wrote a lot of their lyrics:
Good Life - EDI's verse
Fade Me - Napoleons verse
U Can Be Touched - Napoleons verse
Life as an Outlaw - Young Nobles verse
Bomb First (of 7 day theory) - EDI's verse ~ I mean he even raps the part "It's Makaveli" on there ::) dumb ass
I can't really be bothered typing the enormous list of songs that contain verses written by 2Pac and rapped by the WackLawz. The only ones that seemed to have no problems writing verses within a good time limit were Kadafi, Fatal, Syke or Storm, and it's odd they are the ones that are no longer part of the group. 2Pac done a lot more than just guide those 4 Outlawz (EDI, Kastro etc.)
The remaining Outlawz fan base and general interest decreased. They went from 2Pacs raw rap group on Death Row to relatively unknown indy artists working with washed up indy artists from the Bay, and South that no one gave a shyt about. Although their interest and talent decreased, their milking off of 2Pac didn't. If anything it Increased
They done tours under the titles of "2pac/Makaveli", and allowed the raping of his music to go on, on a annual basis, and even further p!ssed on his legacy by changing their half-decent lyrics to watered down pre-school rhyming verses on those butered mixtape-sounding tracks. They made peace with his enemies who were STILL dissing him after his death. They are literally uncared for in rap, and require the exploitation of 2Pac's legacy, songs and name to receive any notice, and have the audacity to say they are keeping his memory alive? lol, what a joke
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I agree to an extent but I thought they were pretty good on Hit Em Up
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But the retail had Kadafi & Fatal rapping. The only other Outlaw rapping on there was EDI, and his verse was last on the track, more than likely due to time lags and being the last to write his verse.
Kadafi & Fatal had chemistry though. Those 2 were great on All About U. It's a shame Fatal is holding onto a lot of their work
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It's funny because back when Pac was alive, ain't nobody have shit to say about the Outlawz except good things. Now that he is gone, they are all wack. Hmmmm.
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It's funny because back when Pac was alive, ain't nobody have shit to say about the Outlawz except good things. Now that he is gone, they are all wack. Hmmmm.
You can't say that, we didn't have forums back then ;D
Besides, Pac didn't give them much of an opportunity to be wack. He would murder these tracks then leave them all 1 open slot to fill. Its kind of like when schools put the retarded kids in charge of raising the flag in the morning. They may not be too good at it, but really whats the worst that could happen with limited responsibility?
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It's funny because back when Pac was alive, ain't nobody have shit to say about the Outlawz except good things. Now that he is gone, they are all wack. Hmmmm.
Not "all" Outlawz though mind you. Just the Remaining Outlawz, and that's because they don't have the luxury of 2Pac writing their lyrics for them, recommending the way in which to deliver a verse on tracks, and to have that influence around them regularly in a creative atmosphere. Obviously rappers like Fatal & Kadafi had no problems because they had the ability to keep up, and could write high-quality raps capably on their on. Some people (like yourself) clearly see something odd about the situation, and I may have just put it down to lack of inspiration from a frantic writing machine like 2Pac anxious and intense in a studio missing, but with the facts there, it just isn't so
If nobody believes they are wack now though, then they should go pick up Until The End of Time, Better Dayz or Pacs Life, listen to the Outlaw featured tracks on there, then go listen to their unreleased original counterpart. Listen to the beats they choose now. From raw passionate and gritty to cheapy software sounding south shyt
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yeah never was able to get into the whole outlawz deal
but they make pac look bad/wack on the muzik tip
wonder why he believed in them so much?
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yeah never was able to get into the whole outlawz deal
but they make pac look bad/wack on the muzik tip
wonder why he believed in them so much?
they prob had some dirt on him, like some gay porno 2pac did before he turned thug life
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It's funny because back when Pac was alive, ain't nobody have shit to say about the Outlawz except good things. Now that he is gone, they are all wack. Hmmmm.
Not "all" Outlawz though mind you. Just the Remaining Outlawz, and that's because they don't have the luxury of 2Pac writing their lyrics for them, recommending the way in which to deliver a verse on tracks, and to have that influence around them regularly in a creative atmosphere. Obviously rappers like Fatal & Kadafi had no problems because they had the ability to keep up, and could write high-quality raps capably on their on. Some people (like yourself) clearly see something odd about the situation, and I may have just put it down to lack of inspiration from a frantic writing machine like 2Pac anxious and intense in a studio missing, but with the facts there, it just isn't so
If nobody believes they are wack now though, then they should go pick up Until The End of Time, Better Dayz or Pacs Life, listen to the Outlaw featured tracks on there, then go listen to their unreleased original counterpart. Listen to the beats they choose now. From raw passionate and gritty to cheapy software sounding south shyt
Napolean
Fatal
Kadafi
Kastro
Edi
Noble
Storm
Syke
Mopreme
Out of that group, he only ones I would say I was not a big fan of was Syke at times. Kastro's flow has changed over the years and I would say out of all the members, it seems like Edi suffered the most lyrically after Pac passed. But the rest were all good IMO. But absolutely I think you lose some fire and ability when you lose a leader like Pac, but I enjoyed their Rap-A-Lot album, and a good portion of their remixed verses.
I am just being honest though when I say that when Pac was alive, I did not hear that many people say they were wack. If you did, they were Biggie/Junior Mafia fans and they fall in the same boat too. Now I am hearing people say oh Kadafi was wack on Staring At My Rearview, etc. Just does not add up sometimes with some people.
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Fatal comes the tightest.
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Fatal Kadafi and Big Syke were dope. Y'all hatin more than dat bitch mothafuka Bill O'Reilly.
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out of Fatal, Kadafi and to a lesser extent Napolean, i think the Outlawz are terrible
sub-par rappers who had a good chance really. Saying that there are isolated verses i really like (EDI on All Out, Young Noble on Made Niggaz, etc)
as regards Napolean's verse on U Can Be Touched, i honestly think he came off better on that verse than Pac. :D
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See, what's messed up is the Outlawz were the shit. Up until now, no one said shit. Hell, 5 years ago this tread doesn't exist, or if it did then people would laugh them out the board.
On the real, the 'Law were tight as fuck, but that's because Kadafi and Fatal were beast, and EDI had some 2Pac ghost writtens. Big Syke was nice, I have no idea what people are on, in the Mid-90's, his style of rap was considered dope, same with Napolean's and Kastro's style. The only thing that's changed is now we see that music 13-15 years later, and now we are like, damn, those dudes sucked. But by 1994-1996 standards, they are tight as fuck and ain't no one fuckin' wit' 'em. Their styles were highly dated, as they sound 90's as fuck, and in 2009, that's not what you want. But honestly, Still I Rise is the best post death 2Pac release, and the 'Lawz came correct. Right now, everyone's bitching at the 'Lawz, realizing damn those dudes had no business on a 'Pac track. That's true except Fatal and Kadafi. But at the end of the day, they still were good rappers in 94-96, and in 1996, people thought them dudes was tight. But then again, listen to some 90's shit and see how wack some people really were.
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The Outlawz were nothing more than fillers when Pac got lazy. Every Pac song that one of them features on would have been better if pac had just took the time to write another verse.
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2pac should have just kept big syke and asked snoop dogg to appear on more songs with RBX/KURUPT and all other deathrow members
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2pac should have just kept big syke and asked snoop dogg to appear on more songs with RBX/KURUPT and all other deathrow members
drop Big Syke too, imagine all those classic 2pac tracks with DPG on them instead of the wack ass outlawz
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They were cool on certain joints but I must agree they are wack.
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i dnt mind em updatin they raps
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The outlawz shoulda been:
Fatal
Kadafi
Napolean (well its a so so)
Syke
Mopreme
Nutt-so (Dude was soo sick with it)
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2pac should have just kept big syke and asked snoop dogg to appear on more songs with RBX/KURUPT and all other deathrow members
RBX and Pac weren't on Death Row at the same time.
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Kadafis voice was annoying he sounded like he was 11
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ive cut out their verses on all pac songs that ive got except hit em up
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I didn't mind them tbh. Ok there's some annoying or off beat flows but they came with some sick lines. Tracks like Tradin War Stories were banging. 'Keep catching flashbacks, of when niggas ran up in my house and I was too young to blast back!'
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I didn't mind them tbh. Ok there's some annoying or off beat flows but they came with some sick lines. Tracks like Tradin War Stories were banging. 'Keep catching flashbacks, of when niggas ran up in my house and I was too young to blast back!'
They didn't have flow though. To go from a dude like Pac who puts his heart and soul into the verse, straight to one of the Outlawz almost talking over the beat fucks it up for me.
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out of Fatal, Kadafi and to a lesser extent Napolean, i think the Outlawz are terrible
sub-par rappers who had a good chance really. Saying that there are isolated verses i really like (EDI on All Out, Young Noble on Made Niggaz, etc)
as regards Napolean's verse on U Can Be Touched, i honestly think he came off better on that verse than Pac. :D
That verse from U can be touched was actually ghost written by 2pac. Just listen to the OG, Pac raps the exact same verse Napolean RAps.
NEwayz u Niggaz are bunch hatin ass mofo's............................atleast they weren't as bad as Eminem and 50 Cent ruining vintage Pac Tracks.
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Kadafi
Fatal
Storm
Fuck The Others.
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Never really cared about them.Didn't mind their featurings.I do have the exact same opinion on big syke long beach has on outlawz.now why did pac put him on his songs remains a mystery to me, that guy is the definition of wack to me
picture me rollin, classic track then that bitch ass muther fucker big syke has to open his damn mouth
please this just showes you have know clue what you are talking about big syke was dope ass gangsta rapper & part of thug life . he was one of 2pac main homies.i like big syke on thug life. the outlawz never ruined a song of 2pacs ever . . they were 2pac's soliders & that ment 2pac thought they were just a good as him & deserved their spot. 2pac always knew better then you .the outlawz are better then 75% of todays new school rappers. i rather listen to outlawz then gucci or lil wayne.
who gives a fuck if they were his homies, they still suck dick on the mic
they did not suck dick on the mic like you do. big syke was a good gangsta rapper. if 2pac thought he was good enough then he was good enough . 2pac knows better then you ever will .
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fatal the only one worth listening to,fatal is dope as fuck but the other members is super wack.they was kinda alright when pac was alive but now they just terrible.
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See, what's messed up is the Outlawz were the shit. Up until now, no one said shit. Hell, 5 years ago this tread doesn't exist, or if it did then people would laugh them out the board.
On the real, the 'Law were tight as fuck, but that's because Kadafi and Fatal were beast, and EDI had some 2Pac ghost writtens. Big Syke was nice, I have no idea what people are on, in the Mid-90's, his style of rap was considered dope, same with Napolean's and Kastro's style. The only thing that's changed is now we see that music 13-15 years later, and now we are like, damn, those dudes sucked. But by 1994-1996 standards, they are tight as fuck and ain't no one fuckin' wit' 'em. Their styles were highly dated, as they sound 90's as fuck, and in 2009, that's not what you want. But honestly, Still I Rise is the best post death 2Pac release, and the 'Lawz came correct. Right now, everyone's bitching at the 'Lawz, realizing damn those dudes had no business on a 'Pac track. That's true except Fatal and Kadafi. But at the end of the day, they still were good rappers in 94-96, and in 1996, people thought them dudes was tight. But then again, listen to some 90's shit and see how wack some people really were.
co-sign
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LBC is Actice get a fuckin life you fuckin cocksucker!!!!
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i dont get how ya dudes is hatin on sum cats that wasnt even old enough to buy liquor around the time Pac was alive, IMO the lawz was and still is the bizness, ya just sounding like sum bitter hatin dudes that want to be in their shoes. When Pac was alive ya wasnt saying shit, and who gives a fuck if there wasnt no forums back then, i still didnt hear no complaints, they better than half of these rappers today, they spit the truth, no bullshit, idk what the fuck ya hearin, all i hear is hatin cuz ya cant do it. I dont get how we on a westcoast forum and all i hear is complaints from sum dudes that sound like sum spoiled little kids that aint had they breast milk today
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if 2pac thought he was good enough then he was good enough
this is sig-worthy
hahaha
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The Outlawz are Pac loyal soldiers, their music is untouchable with pac & after pac go listen to the "Outlaw 4 Life" Album from 2005.
Here are My 2pac&Outlawz Top 10:
1 - Hit´em Up - (2pac,Hussein Fatal,Kadafi&Edi)
2 - Made Figgaz - (Nappoleon,Hussein Fatal,Edi,Kastro,Kadafi,2pac)
3 - When We Ride - (2pac,Hussein Fatal,Edi,Syke,Mopreme,Kastro,Kadafi,Napoleon &Storm)
4 - Staring Through My Rearview - (2pac,Kadafi,Edi)
5 - Loust Souls - (2pac,Young Noble & Edi)
6 - Secretz of War - (2pac,Edi,Young Noble & Kadafi)
7 - Bomb 1st - (2pac,Young Noble & Kastro)
8 - Hail Mary - (2pac,Young Noble & Kastro)
9 - Last Breathin - (2pac,Young Noble & Kastro)
10 - Last ones Left - (2pac,Napoleon & Kastro)
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Outlawz are a good group, they not on some cyber shit. They spit the truth tho @ times it can b annoyin. I respect em for their grind even tho they haven't representd Pac like he wouldve like. Some of their outlaw culture tapes r good, they givin back by featuring some underground unknwn artists. The only problem is longbh iz active could neva b approved to appear on one of those tapes n he crying like a lil bh. Respect the Lawz, check out the track they did on Heltah Skeltah's Magnum Force n the tune they dropped on Black and White soundtrack. Forgot the name of the track bt if anyone has it pliz up it for these haters.
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Fatal and Kadafi were the shit (Hit Em Up, All About U, Late Night, etc.) but I agree the rest ruined a lot of songs, expecially Young Noble and Edi are wack as fuck, they shouldn't be on "Makaveli".
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Never really cared about them.Didn't mind their featurings.I do have the exact same opinion on big syke long beach has on outlawz.now why did pac put him on his songs remains a mystery to me, that guy is the definition of wack to me
picture me rollin, classic track then that bitch ass muther fucker big syke has to open his damn mouth
please this just showes you have know clue what you are talking about big syke was dope ass gangsta rapper & part of thug life . he was one of 2pac main homies.i like big syke on thug life. the outlawz never ruined a song of 2pacs ever . . they were 2pac's soliders & that ment 2pac thought they were just a good as him & deserved their spot. 2pac always knew better then you .the outlawz are better then 75% of todays new school rappers. i rather listen to outlawz then gucci or lil wayne.
who gives a fuck if they were his homies, they still suck dick on the mic
they did not suck dick on the mic like you do. big syke was a good gangsta rapper. if 2pac thought he was good enough then he was good enough . 2pac knows better then you ever will .
You don't do yourself any favours by sounding like an idiotic 6 year old coming out with childish "Unlike You" responses and acting like whatever 2pac said or thought was 100% correct and bulletproof further indicates how much of an idiot you are.
The current Outlawz suck. 2Pac ghostwrote a Large amount of their work during their period of which they recieve most admiration and praise for - IE: Their Death Row days!
2Pac liked the idea of a click, or crew behind him, so it did not matter if they wern't as talented as other people out there. The Outlawz were young, and hungry, and would have been easily conditioned and influenced into 2Pacs way of thinking, into his ideologys, his beliefs and anything else he wanted in exhange for them being able to appear alongside the worlds biggest rapper. All they had to do was to be behind him, and ride for him. He sure as hell never thought they were "as" good as him like you suggested. 1) He ghostwrote for them a LOT. and 2) when it came to songs he would even regard them as simply his "little" homies. His enemies wern't even on his level, so he's gonna let his "little homies" take care of them. He never really thought that highley of the Outlawz that most people think, it was simply his crew of people he wanted to mold into an image HE wanted!!!
Too many dumb fans believe "ohh it was 2Pac's group" that means 2Pac thought they were the best. lol get the fk outta here
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The Outlawz are Pac loyal soldiers, their music is untouchable with pac & after pac go listen to the "Outlaw 4 Life" Album from 2005.
Here are My 2pac&Outlawz Top 10:
1 - Hit´em Up - (2pac,Hussein Fatal,Kadafi&Edi)
2 - Made Figgaz - (Nappoleon,Hussein Fatal,Edi,Kastro,Kadafi,2pac)
3 - When We Ride - (2pac,Hussein Fatal,Edi,Syke,Mopreme,Kastro,Kadafi,Napoleon &Storm)
4 - Staring Through My Rearview - (2pac,Kadafi,Edi)
5 - Loust Souls - (2pac,Young Noble & Edi)
6 - Secretz of War - (2pac,Edi,Young Noble & Kadafi)
7 - Bomb 1st - (2pac,Young Noble & Kastro)
8 - Hail Mary - (2pac,Young Noble & Kastro)
9 - Last Breathin - (2pac,Young Noble & Kastro)
10 - Last ones Left - (2pac,Napoleon & Kastro)
and 80% of tracks you just listed feature ghost written verses from 2Pac
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The Outlawz are Pac loyal soldiers, their music is untouchable with pac & after pac go listen to the "Outlaw 4 Life" Album from 2005.
Here are My 2pac&Outlawz Top 10:
1 - Hit´em Up - (2pac,Hussein Fatal,Kadafi&Edi)
2 - Made Figgaz - (Nappoleon,Hussein Fatal,Edi,Kastro,Kadafi,2pac)
3 - When We Ride - (2pac,Hussein Fatal,Edi,Syke,Mopreme,Kastro,Kadafi,Napoleon &Storm)
4 - Staring Through My Rearview - (2pac,Kadafi,Edi)
5 - Loust Souls - (2pac,Young Noble & Edi)
6 - Secretz of War - (2pac,Edi,Young Noble & Kadafi)
7 - Bomb 1st - (2pac,Young Noble & Kastro)
8 - Hail Mary - (2pac,Young Noble & Kastro)
9 - Last Breathin - (2pac,Young Noble & Kastro)
10 - Last ones Left - (2pac,Napoleon & Kastro)
and 80% of tracks you just listed feature ghost written verses from 2Pac
I was wondering why they sound better when Pac was present.
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if 2pac thought he was good enough then he was good enough
this is sig-worthy
hahaha
You have fucking tq in your sig,you lost a long time ago.
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Who is Long Beach Iz Active? He's hilarious.
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Who is Long Beach Iz Active? He's hilarious.
Hes a guy who would literally get down and suck snoops dick if asked of im.Any time a snoop song pops up even if its the wackest shit ever and everyone agrees he will come in the thread and claim it to be brilliant.Hell he even called sexual seduction auto tune song of the year.Hes like soopafly dpgc but not nearly as entertaining.He has one joke,snoop announces something,or has a billboard,thread gets made about it he comes into the thread and puts up something inferior to snoops and claims it to be crooked is.That pretty much sums up all his posts.
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I love Fatal, and Kadafi was dope.
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Who is Long Beach Iz Active? He's hilarious.
Hes a guy who would literally get down and suck snoops dick if asked of im.Any time a snoop song pops up even if its the wackest shit ever and everyone agrees he will come in the thread and claim it to be brilliant.Hell he even called sexual seduction auto tune song of the year.Hes like soopafly dpgc but not nearly as entertaining.He has one joke,snoop announces something,or has a billboard,thread gets made about it he comes into the thread and puts up something inferior to snoops and claims it to be crooked is.That pretty much sums up all his posts.
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Who is Long Beach Iz Active? He's hilarious.
Hes a guy who would literally get down and suck snoops dick if asked of im.Any time a snoop song pops up even if its the wackest shit ever and everyone agrees he will come in the thread and claim it to be brilliant.Hell he even called sexual seduction auto tune song of the year.Hes like soopafly dpgc but not nearly as entertaining.He has one joke,snoop announces something,or has a billboard,thread gets made about it he comes into the thread and puts up something inferior to snoops and claims it to be crooked is.That pretty much sums up all his posts.
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listen.....the Outlawz were Pac's homies, he took them in and tought them how to rap and make money.......pretty much took care of them.....so in that aspect, I respect Pac for the great person he is and I respect how the outlawz for how they embraced pac and his legacy after he died......but seriously....music wise, come on, you and i both know theyre not good......Fatal maybe had a little flair....but hes still decent at most.......only reason Pac put them on was cuz they were his homies, and he wanted to help them out......not because they are good rappers....
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a couple of them had skills but thats why there career went down hill after pac died hatal was the dopest out of all of them
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Never really cared about them.Didn't mind their featurings.I do have the exact same opinion on big syke long beach has on outlawz.now why did pac put him on his songs remains a mystery to me, that guy is the definition of wack to me
picture me rollin, classic track then that bitch ass muther fucker big syke has to open his damn mouth
please this just showes you have know clue what you are talking about big syke was dope ass gangsta rapper & part of thug life . he was one of 2pac main homies.i like big syke on thug life. the outlawz never ruined a song of 2pacs ever . . they were 2pac's soliders & that ment 2pac thought they were just a good as him & deserved their spot. 2pac always knew better then you .the outlawz are better then 75% of todays new school rappers. i rather listen to outlawz then gucci or lil wayne.
who gives a fuck if they were his homies, they still suck dick on the mic
they did not suck dick on the mic like you do. big syke was a good gangsta rapper. if 2pac thought he was good enough then he was good enough . 2pac knows better then you ever will .
You don't do yourself any favours by sounding like an idiotic 6 year old coming out with childish "Unlike You" responses and acting like whatever 2pac said or thought was 100% correct and bulletproof further indicates how much of an idiot you are.
The current Outlawz suck. 2Pac ghostwrote a Large amount of their work during their period of which they recieve most admiration and praise for - IE: Their Death Row days!
2Pac liked the idea of a click, or crew behind him, so it did not matter if they wern't as talented as other people out there. The Outlawz were young, and hungry, and would have been easily conditioned and influenced into 2Pacs way of thinking, into his ideologys, his beliefs and anything else he wanted in exhange for them being able to appear alongside the worlds biggest rapper. All they had to do was to be behind him, and ride for him. He sure as hell never thought they were "as" good as him like you suggested. 1) He ghostwrote for them a LOT. and 2) when it came to songs he would even regard them as simply his "little" homies. His enemies wern't even on his level, so he's gonna let his "little homies" take care of them. He never really thought that highley of the Outlawz that most people think, it was simply his crew of people he wanted to mold into an image HE wanted!!!
Too many dumb fans believe "ohh it was 2Pac's group" that means 2Pac thought they were the best. lol get the fk outta here
only one who sounds like idiot is you & your hating. grow up with ignorant bullcrap. 2pac never got down with anybody who did not think highley of . so yo uare wrong as normal . i fellowed 2pac since digital underground & never stopped. 2pac would not have big syke in both thug life & outlawz if he did not think he was good enough to rap. what proof do you have 2pac ghostwriiten for the outlawz because i think it bullcrap what you are saying. 2pac thought the outlawz were good enough to drop solo albums . 2pac was going to have slol albums by the outlawz on his label . also anything 2pac said is 100% correct over what you say. so please save you bullcrap .you showed you don't knoiw shit about 2pac at all. you are one of those bandwagoon 2pac fans from the mid 90's .
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I never had a problem with the Outlawz but I also never saw anything that special in them either, but I liked EDI and Fatal the most out of them
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haters will always hate, but the Outlawz are borderline disgrace to the westcoast
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only one who sounds like idiot is you & your hating. grow up with ignorant bullcrap. 2pac never got down with anybody who did not think highley of . so yo uare wrong as normal . i fellowed 2pac since digital underground & never stopped. 2pac would not have big syke in both thug life & outlawz if he did not think he was good enough to rap. what proof do you have 2pac ghostwriiten for the outlawz because i think it bullcrap what you are saying. 2pac thought the outlawz were good enough to drop solo albums . 2pac was going to have slol albums by the outlawz on his label . also anything 2pac said is 100% correct over what you say. so please save you bullcrap .you showed you don't knoiw shit about 2pac at all. you are one of those bandwagoon 2pac fans from the mid 90's .
If you're going to try and respond, and call someone an idiot, at least have the basic preschooler intellect to get your spelling and grammar correct first!!! ::)
I never said Big Syke was wack, nor Kadafi, Fatal or Storm, so quite trying to speculate and compel an image of what I said from one word. Since you clearly have trouble reading as well as spelling, let me write it slowly for you with easy-to-understand words...
The.... Outlawz.......... as in..... EDI..... Young Noble...... Kastro,,, and Napoleon.... You with me so far yeh???? "THOSE" Outlawz... Those ones Suck!!! Those ones, not Syke..... Not Kadafi..... Not Fatal..... Not Storm..... You got me?? The ones from current time. You understand? Probably not, but let's continue anyway - You claim to be some big 2Pac fan from his Digital Underground days (Yeh sure, that's what all defensive morons say) yet don't know that 2Pac ghostwrote for the Outlawz whilst on Death Row? LOL, big 2Pac fan you must be ::)... Sounds like you're the d!ckriding changes fan to me son. 2Pac didn't have any plans for the Outlawz to drop solo albums on Makaveli Records lol. You'd be surprised to what his plans were for the Outlawz, but yeh Nice try rookie!!!
I'm not an Outlawz hater. I just think they suck now, because quite frankly their lyrical ability is weak, and their selection of beats these days is horrible. Any Outlaw who did have the talent to go it alone either did, or quit rappin', and we were left with the weaker out the bunch. The ones people couldn't really give a shyt about. Don't believe me??? Then create a poll, or look at 99% of other polls on the net which ask someone of their favourite Outlaw, and guaranteed it'll either be between Fatal or Kadafi, followed by Syke being 3rd place, and none of those people are even in the group anymore
also anything 2pac said is 100% correct over what you say
LOL, please quit saying that, it really makes you look like a d!ck riding werido who sounds like a 10 year old who would probably come out with "I know you are, but what am I" replys
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I don't see how people can say Napoleon and Kastro suck. To me the worst Outlawz that I hate listening to are Young Noble and E.D.I.
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I always liked Napoleon, Fatal, and Edi Amin
but yeah, there's not one time I wouldn't rather hear pac/another feature than them
pac + richie rich or shock g or anyone from dpg>>>>>>> pac + outlaws
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I always liked Napoleon, Fatal, and Edi Amin
but yeah, there's not one time I wouldn't rather hear pac/another feature than them
pac + richie rich or shock g or anyone from dpg>>>>>>> pac + outlaws
Whatever happened to Richie Rich?
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Nothing, he is still featuring on a lot of albums, Yukmouth, B-Legit, Dru Down etc. I had a feeling that after his Greatest Hits, that nothing much more would come from him in terms of full length albums, and he hasn't really done much since then. Hope he drops some of his unreleased material from the late 90's
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See, what's messed up is the Outlawz were the shit. Up until now, no one said shit. Hell, 5 years ago this tread doesn't exist, or if it did then people would laugh them out the board.
On the real, the 'Law were tight as fuck, but that's because Kadafi and Fatal were beast, and EDI had some 2Pac ghost writtens. Big Syke was nice, I have no idea what people are on, in the Mid-90's, his style of rap was considered dope, same with Napolean's and Kastro's style. The only thing that's changed is now we see that music 13-15 years later, and now we are like, damn, those dudes sucked. But by 1994-1996 standards, they are tight as fuck and ain't no one fuckin' wit' 'em. Their styles were highly dated, as they sound 90's as fuck, and in 2009, that's not what you want. But honestly, Still I Rise is the best post death 2Pac release, and the 'Lawz came correct. Right now, everyone's bitching at the 'Lawz, realizing damn those dudes had no business on a 'Pac track. That's true except Fatal and Kadafi. But at the end of the day, they still were good rappers in 94-96, and in 1996, people thought them dudes was tight. But then again, listen to some 90's shit and see how wack some people really were.
Good post.
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Nothing, he is still featuring on a lot of albums, Yukmouth, B-Legit, Dru Down etc. I had a feeling that after his Greatest Hits, that nothing much more would come from him in terms of full length albums, and he hasn't really done much since then. Hope he drops some of his unreleased material from the late 90's
him and shock g would make a great duo
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See, what's messed up is the Outlawz were the shit. Up until now, no one said shit. Hell, 5 years ago this tread doesn't exist, or if it did then people would laugh them out the board.
On the real, the 'Law were tight as fuck, but that's because Kadafi and Fatal were beast, and EDI had some 2Pac ghost writtens. Big Syke was nice, I have no idea what people are on, in the Mid-90's, his style of rap was considered dope, same with Napolean's and Kastro's style. The only thing that's changed is now we see that music 13-15 years later, and now we are like, damn, those dudes sucked. But by 1994-1996 standards, they are tight as fuck and ain't no one fuckin' wit' 'em. Their styles were highly dated, as they sound 90's as fuck, and in 2009, that's not what you want. But honestly, Still I Rise is the best post death 2Pac release, and the 'Lawz came correct. Right now, everyone's bitching at the 'Lawz, realizing damn those dudes had no business on a 'Pac track. That's true except Fatal and Kadafi. But at the end of the day, they still were good rappers in 94-96, and in 1996, people thought them dudes was tight. But then again, listen to some 90's shit and see how wack some people really were.
Good post.
You know what's funny, since I am older, and I remember The Outlawz, I remember people were on their jock (I went 90's) and no one would disrespect them, just like Mack 10, Spice 1, Yukmouth, Too $hort and many others. Listen to these guys again, and listen to their styles. In 2009, they'd suck. As much as people say Hip-Hop is dead now, people wouldn't like that old school shit either. People right now have no idea what they want. They don't buy Slaughterhouse, they think Kanye is gay, they think The Outlawz are wack, and 2Pac is the GOAT, until they hear What'z Ya Phone #. The Outlawz were the shit in 1996, in 1996 their style was relevent. In 2009, the style is played out, it ain't fresh and people say it's wack.
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See, what's messed up is the Outlawz were the shit. Up until now, no one said shit. Hell, 5 years ago this tread doesn't exist, or if it did then people would laugh them out the board.
On the real, the 'Law were tight as fuck, but that's because Kadafi and Fatal were beast, and EDI had some 2Pac ghost writtens. Big Syke was nice, I have no idea what people are on, in the Mid-90's, his style of rap was considered dope, same with Napolean's and Kastro's style. The only thing that's changed is now we see that music 13-15 years later, and now we are like, damn, those dudes sucked. But by 1994-1996 standards, they are tight as fuck and ain't no one fuckin' wit' 'em. Their styles were highly dated, as they sound 90's as fuck, and in 2009, that's not what you want. But honestly, Still I Rise is the best post death 2Pac release, and the 'Lawz came correct. Right now, everyone's bitching at the 'Lawz, realizing damn those dudes had no business on a 'Pac track. That's true except Fatal and Kadafi. But at the end of the day, they still were good rappers in 94-96, and in 1996, people thought them dudes was tight. But then again, listen to some 90's shit and see how wack some people really were.
Good post.
You know what's funny, since I am older, and I remember The Outlawz, I remember people were on their jock (I went 90's) and no one would disrespect them, just like Mack 10, Spice 1, Yukmouth, Too $hort and many others. Listen to these guys again, and listen to their styles. In 2009, they'd suck. As much as people say Hip-Hop is dead now, people wouldn't like that old school shit either. People right now have no idea what they want. They don't buy Slaughterhouse, they think Kanye is gay, they think The Outlawz are wack, and 2Pac is the GOAT, until they hear What'z Ya Phone #. The Outlawz were the shit in 1996, in 1996 their style was relevent. In 2009, the style is played out, it ain't fresh and people say it's wack.
2 for 2. +1 homie.
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i co-sign this powerful thread
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See, what's messed up is the Outlawz were the shit. Up until now, no one said shit. Hell, 5 years ago this tread doesn't exist, or if it did then people would laugh them out the board.
On the real, the 'Law were tight as fuck, but that's because Kadafi and Fatal were beast, and EDI had some 2Pac ghost writtens. Big Syke was nice, I have no idea what people are on, in the Mid-90's, his style of rap was considered dope, same with Napolean's and Kastro's style. The only thing that's changed is now we see that music 13-15 years later, and now we are like, damn, those dudes sucked. But by 1994-1996 standards, they are tight as fuck and ain't no one fuckin' wit' 'em. Their styles were highly dated, as they sound 90's as fuck, and in 2009, that's not what you want. But honestly, Still I Rise is the best post death 2Pac release, and the 'Lawz came correct. Right now, everyone's bitching at the 'Lawz, realizing damn those dudes had no business on a 'Pac track. That's true except Fatal and Kadafi. But at the end of the day, they still were good rappers in 94-96, and in 1996, people thought them dudes was tight. But then again, listen to some 90's shit and see how wack some people really were.
Good post.
You know what's funny, since I am older, and I remember The Outlawz, I remember people were on their jock (I went 90's) and no one would disrespect them, just like Mack 10, Spice 1, Yukmouth, Too $hort and many others. Listen to these guys again, and listen to their styles. In 2009, they'd suck. As much as people say Hip-Hop is dead now, people wouldn't like that old school shit either. People right now have no idea what they want. They don't buy Slaughterhouse, they think Kanye is gay, they think The Outlawz are wack, and 2Pac is the GOAT, until they hear What'z Ya Phone #. The Outlawz were the shit in 1996, in 1996 their style was relevent. In 2009, the style is played out, it ain't fresh and people say it's wack.
Whats Ya Phone Number was never dope, period. Not in the 90s and not in the 00s. I still bump All Eyez on Me occasionally in 2009, so no it doesn't suck.
If Pac was alive today and rapping over techno beats, I wouldn't check for his shit either.
The Outlawz were never the shit. Maybe you thought they were back then, but to me they've always been filler. A classic Pac track is still a classic Pac track regardless of whether there's an Outlaw rapping over it. Did anyone give a shit about the songs they did without Pac? I certainly didn't. There's your answer.
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I'll still stick by my opinion. I must be one of a few who thought the Outlaw features were good in 96. I didn't mind them being on 2Pac tracks, but they were wack 5 years ago, and they're wack today. It has nothing to do with their style from the 90's because the Outlawz simply aren't the same Outlawz from the 90's. Anyone with ears can hear that.
They went from raw lyrics and verses, to watered down one-syllable "High, sky, bye, die" BS lines and verses. Anyone who is trying to claim their delivery on the mic is the same as it was in 94-96 really need to listen to some of their newer material
Here's more or less the exact same statement in content with another rapper:
Maybe the reason Snoop Dogg records sell less these days is because his 93 style is not relevant today??
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It has nothing to do with "they style bein played out"... they were just never good to begin with. everyone here is stuck in the 90s anyway - we dig that shit for a reason. but the outlaws just dont cut it
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I'm not saying the current Outlawz are not wack. Just like every other rapper, with age goes skills. Hip-Hop is a young persons game, and the older you get the worst your flow gets, the more watered down your lyrics get. Compare Kurupt, or Snoop, or any other rapper over the years. If you talk about the Outlawz from today, yeah they wack, but no more wack than any other artist from the 90's and 80's, even the early 2000's.
Now as for their style in 1996, how can you claim they were wack when dudes came out hard as fuck.
how is Kadafi wack here
[Verse Four: Khadafi]
I'm from N-E-W Jerz, where plenty murders occurs
No points in common, we bringin drama to all you herbs
Knuckle check the scenario, Lil' Cease
I bring you fake G's to your knees, coppin pleas you Degenario
Lil Kim, is you coked up, or doped up?
Get ya lil' Jr. Whopper click smoked up, what the fuck
is you STUPID?! I take money, crash and mash through Brooklyn
with my click lootin, shootin and pollutin ya block
with 15 shots cock glock to your knot
Outlaw mafia click movin up another notch
And your box top spots get mopped and dropped
and all your fake-ass East coast props brainstormed and locked
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only one who sounds like idiot is you & your hating. grow up with ignorant bullcrap. 2pac never got down with anybody who did not think highley of . so yo uare wrong as normal . i fellowed 2pac since digital underground & never stopped. 2pac would not have big syke in both thug life & outlawz if he did not think he was good enough to rap. what proof do you have 2pac ghostwriiten for the outlawz because i think it bullcrap what you are saying. 2pac thought the outlawz were good enough to drop solo albums . 2pac was going to have slol albums by the outlawz on his label . also anything 2pac said is 100% correct over what you say. so please save you bullcrap .you showed you don't knoiw shit about 2pac at all. you are one of those bandwagoon 2pac fans from the mid 90's .
If you're going to try and respond, and call someone an idiot, at least have the basic preschooler intellect to get your spelling and grammar correct first!!! ::)
I never said Big Syke was wack, nor Kadafi, Fatal or Storm, so quite trying to speculate and compel an image of what I said from one word. Since you clearly have trouble reading as well as spelling, let me write it slowly for you with easy-to-understand words...
The.... Outlawz.......... as in..... EDI..... Young Noble...... Kastro,,, and Napoleon.... You with me so far yeh???? "THOSE" Outlawz... Those ones Suck!!! Those ones, not Syke..... Not Kadafi..... Not Fatal..... Not Storm..... You got me?? The ones from current time. You understand? Probably not, but let's continue anyway - You claim to be some big 2Pac fan from his Digital Underground days (Yeh sure, that's what all defensive morons say) yet don't know that 2Pac ghostwrote for the Outlawz whilst on Death Row? LOL, big 2Pac fan you must be ::)... Sounds like you're the d!ckriding changes fan to me son. 2Pac didn't have any plans for the Outlawz to drop solo albums on Makaveli Records lol. You'd be surprised to what his plans were for the Outlawz, but yeh Nice try rookie!!!
I'm not an Outlawz hater. I just think they suck now, because quite frankly their lyrical ability is weak, and their selection of beats these days is horrible. Any Outlaw who did have the talent to go it alone either did, or quit rappin', and we were left with the weaker out the bunch. The ones people couldn't really give a shyt about. Don't believe me??? Then create a poll, or look at 99% of other polls on the net which ask someone of their favourite Outlaw, and guaranteed it'll either be between Fatal or Kadafi, followed by Syke being 3rd place, and none of those people are even in the group anymore
also anything 2pac said is 100% correct over what you say
LOL, please quit saying that, it really makes you look like a d!ck riding werido who sounds like a 10 year old who would probably come out with "I know you are, but what am I" replys
agreed.
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I'm not saying the current Outlawz are not wack. Just like every other rapper, with age goes skills. Hip-Hop is a young persons game, and the older you get the worst your flow gets, the more watered down your lyrics get. Compare Kurupt, or Snoop, or any other rapper over the years. If you talk about the Outlawz from today, yeah they wack, but no more wack than any other artist from the 90's and 80's, even the early 2000's.
Now as for their style in 1996, how can you claim they were wack when dudes came out hard as fuck.
how is Kadafi wack here
[Verse Four: Khadafi]
I'm from N-E-W Jerz, where plenty murders occurs
No points in common, we bringin drama to all you herbs
Knuckle check the scenario, Lil' Cease
I bring you fake G's to your knees, coppin pleas you Degenario
Lil Kim, is you coked up, or doped up?
Get ya lil' Jr. Whopper click smoked up, what the fuck
is you STUPID?! I take money, crash and mash through Brooklyn
with my click lootin, shootin and pollutin ya block
with 15 shots cock glock to your knot
Outlaw mafia click movin up another notch
And your box top spots get mopped and dropped
and all your fake-ass East coast props brainstormed and locked
I thought Kadafi was very talented. He actually wrote all of his own lyrics, and was gifted enough to put that alternative edge on a track next to 2Pac's. Who Do U Believe In for example. People say Outlawz died when 2Pac died, but they died when Kadafi did IMO
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Here's more or less the exact same statement in content with another rapper:
Maybe the reason Snoop Dogg records sell less these days is because his 93 style is not relevant today??
Snoop has always had the same type of lyrics, in the 90s and today. The song choices are the reason he has fallen off.
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Agreed, his lyrics contain the same elements to what his 90's tracks did, but his flow and delivery technique have changed since then
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I think they were tight with pac and a few years after. Syke has always been tight imo.
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haters will always hate, but the Outlawz are borderline disgrace to the westcoast
since most of outlawz were not west coast in first place but east coast like new jersey . aslo outlawz where never disgrace to west coast at all.
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haters will always hate, but the Outlawz are borderline disgrace to the westcoast
since most of outlawz were not west coast in first place but east coast like new jersey . aslo outlawz where never disgrace to west coast at all.
have you heard the outlawz before?
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See, what's messed up is the Outlawz were the shit. Up until now, no one said shit. Hell, 5 years ago this tread doesn't exist, or if it did then people would laugh them out the board.
On the real, the 'Law were tight as fuck, but that's because Kadafi and Fatal were beast, and EDI had some 2Pac ghost writtens. Big Syke was nice, I have no idea what people are on, in the Mid-90's, his style of rap was considered dope, same with Napolean's and Kastro's style. The only thing that's changed is now we see that music 13-15 years later, and now we are like, damn, those dudes sucked. But by 1994-1996 standards, they are tight as fuck and ain't no one fuckin' wit' 'em. Their styles were highly dated, as they sound 90's as fuck, and in 2009, that's not what you want. But honestly, Still I Rise is the best post death 2Pac release, and the 'Lawz came correct. Right now, everyone's bitching at the 'Lawz, realizing damn those dudes had no business on a 'Pac track. That's true except Fatal and Kadafi. But at the end of the day, they still were good rappers in 94-96, and in 1996, people thought them dudes was tight. But then again, listen to some 90's shit and see how wack some people really were.
Good post.
You know what's funny, since I am older, and I remember The Outlawz, I remember people were on their jock (I went 90's) and no one would disrespect them, just like Mack 10, Spice 1, Yukmouth, Too $hort and many others. Listen to these guys again, and listen to their styles. In 2009, they'd suck. As much as people say Hip-Hop is dead now, people wouldn't like that old school shit either. People right now have no idea what they want. They don't buy Slaughterhouse, they think Kanye is gay, they think The Outlawz are wack, and 2Pac is the GOAT, until they hear What'z Ya Phone #. The Outlawz were the shit in 1996, in 1996 their style was relevent. In 2009, the style is played out, it ain't fresh and people say it's wack.
Whats Ya Phone Number was never dope, period. Not in the 90s and not in the 00s. I still bump All Eyez on Me occasionally in 2009, so no it doesn't suck.
If Pac was alive today and rapping over techno beats, I wouldn't check for his shit either.
The Outlawz were never the shit. Maybe you thought they were back then, but to me they've always been filler. A classic Pac track is still a classic Pac track regardless of whether there's an Outlaw rapping over it. Did anyone give a shit about the songs they did without Pac? I certainly didn't. There's your answer.
i gotta agree wit sum of this here....i was 18 when all eyez on me dropped and me and my homies always thought the outlaws were just ok,....and whats your phone # was always skipped
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big syke is awesome... his voice is tight.. all other outlawz are meh...
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I didn't really mind the old stuff with the Outlawz. I don't really care for much of the new stuff, other than the stuff that Fatal's been dropping. Some of those tracks are pretty tight. To me though, I'd almost consider the current Outlawz a different group than the original Outlawz. For one thing, there are a lot less members of the Outlawz than there used to be. But to me, it seems like 2pac inspired the Outlawz. It seems like he really lit a fire underneath them, while he was around. But since he's been gone, it's like they lost the key component to their sound. I'm not saying they've never made a good song, since he passed away. But in general, it seems that the group hasn't transitioned well from the Outlawz w/2pac to the Outlawz w/out.
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haters will always hate, but the Outlawz are borderline disgrace to the westcoast
since most of outlawz were not west coast in first place but east coast like new jersey . aslo outlawz where never disgrace to west coast at all.
have you heard the outlawz before?
i heard outlawz since day one . most of outlawz are from new jersey & will tell you that. i been 2pac fan since digital underground . Napoleon was born to orthodox Muslim parents in Irvington, New Jersey. Fula aka Yaki Kadafi was born to Yaasmyn Fula and Sekou Odinga in Montclair, New Jersey in 1977. big syke is the only outlaw originally from the west coast. i bump the crap out of all the outlawz music.
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i know the lawz are meh BUT they came hella tight on some tracks.
hail mary
just like daddy
life of an outlaw
black jezus (storm, kadafi)
u can get touched
made niggaz
hit em up (fatal, kadafi, prince ital, storm) (fatal, kadafi (retail one)
let´s say so: best outlawz are gone and not in the group anymore.i give a fuck bout outlawz NOW i dont even check their shit out.
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outlawz were cool back n the day... they fell off hard lately... and big syke always sounded dope on them pac tracks./
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I completly agree with this post below. in terms of pure talent yeah kadafi and fatal were streets ahead, but all of them had raw energy... napolean on last ones left, blasphemy i liked the energy and flow and at times i thought them complimented eachother. Also you look at the never surrender album and retribution album, great albums to me.
Of course sometimes i would of preferred a 2pac solo but that tells the greatness of pac more that the wackness of the outlawz, I read someone say 2pac used the outlawz when 2pac got lazy... then said that 2pac wrote all there verses... that doesnt work!! if he was just being lazy (which contradictics against everything we know about 2pac's work ethic anyway) would he really write there lyrics for them.
At the end of the day we probably saw more outlaw features because 2pac was trying to support his family and provide the younger generation of his family a life and good living, kadafi, edi and kastro, mopreme all where cousins?? (correct me if i am wrong?) napolean, fatal and noble were all friends of them.
I have to be honest and say in 2009 i am not looking out for the outlawz like i used to, but as the M dogg said, they will decline with age. in 96 - mid 2000 they has raw, energy and hunger something i dont see in alot of artists these days...
I seriously advice people to check out the Retribution album... And i have been posting since 2000 on the deathrow forums, then here and too be its only recently i have seenn people bashing the outlawz.
I'm not saying the current Outlawz are not wack. Just like every other rapper, with age goes skills. Hip-Hop is a young persons game, and the older you get the worst your flow gets, the more watered down your lyrics get. Compare Kurupt, or Snoop, or any other rapper over the years. If you talk about the Outlawz from today, yeah they wack, but no more wack than any other artist from the 90's and 80's, even the early 2000's.
Now as for their style in 1996, how can you claim they were wack when dudes came out hard as fuck.
how is Kadafi wack here
[Verse Four: Khadafi]
I'm from N-E-W Jerz, where plenty murders occurs
No points in common, we bringin drama to all you herbs
Knuckle check the scenario, Lil' Cease
I bring you fake G's to your knees, coppin pleas you Degenario
Lil Kim, is you coked up, or doped up?
Get ya lil' Jr. Whopper click smoked up, what the fuck
is you STUPID?! I take money, crash and mash through Brooklyn
with my click lootin, shootin and pollutin ya block
with 15 shots cock glock to your knot
Outlaw mafia click movin up another notch
And your box top spots get mopped and dropped
and all your fake-ass East coast props brainstormed and locked
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I completly agree with this post below. in terms of pure talent yeah kadafi and fatal were streets ahead, but all of them had raw energy... napolean on last ones left, blasphemy i liked the energy and flow and at times i thought them complimented eachother. Also you look at the never surrender album and retribution album, great albums to me.
Of course sometimes i would of preferred a 2pac solo but that tells the greatness of pac more that the wackness of the outlawz, I read someone say 2pac used the outlawz when 2pac got lazy... then said that 2pac wrote all there verses... that doesnt work!! if he was just being lazy (which contradictics against everything we know about 2pac's work ethic anyway) would he really write there lyrics for them.
At the end of the day we probably saw more outlaw features because 2pac was trying to support his family and provide the younger generation of his family a life and good living, kadafi, edi and kastro, mopreme all where cousins?? (correct me if i am wrong?) napolean, fatal and noble were all friends of them.
I have to be honest and say in 2009 i am not looking out for the outlawz like i used to, but as the M dogg said, they will decline with age. in 96 - mid 2000 they has raw, energy and hunger something i dont see in alot of artists these days...
I seriously advice people to check out the Retribution album... And i have been posting since 2000 on the deathrow forums, then here and too be its only recently i have seenn people bashing the outlawz.
I'm not saying the current Outlawz are not wack. Just like every other rapper, with age goes skills. Hip-Hop is a young persons game, and the older you get the worst your flow gets, the more watered down your lyrics get. Compare Kurupt, or Snoop, or any other rapper over the years. If you talk about the Outlawz from today, yeah they wack, but no more wack than any other artist from the 90's and 80's, even the early 2000's.
Now as for their style in 1996, how can you claim they were wack when dudes came out hard as fuck.
how is Kadafi wack here
[Verse Four: Khadafi]
I'm from N-E-W Jerz, where plenty murders occurs
No points in common, we bringin drama to all you herbs
Knuckle check the scenario, Lil' Cease
I bring you fake G's to your knees, coppin pleas you Degenario
Lil Kim, is you coked up, or doped up?
Get ya lil' Jr. Whopper click smoked up, what the fuck
is you STUPID?! I take money, crash and mash through Brooklyn
with my click lootin, shootin and pollutin ya block
with 15 shots cock glock to your knot
Outlaw mafia click movin up another notch
And your box top spots get mopped and dropped
and all your fake-ass East coast props brainstormed and locked
is it wack? ::) :o
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hack whats the break down of the outlawz, thug life, new jerzey mob etc...
did the new jerzey mob have anythin to do wit pac?