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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: snopafly on December 09, 2009, 03:03:28 PM
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http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news07869
Based on one day sales, snoops album is gonna hit record low first week sales, with sales between 55-65k.
Susan boyle hit yet another 600000k :D
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i also suspected that snoop's album maybe wouldve sold that poorly too.
looks like this album might sell even worse than ego trippin
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Gucci, Snoop, BG & Clipse - 4 hip hop debuts, not one hitting 100K first week :-\
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:) hmm yeah probally, but he is not the only one with bad sales, but its still awful.
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Gucci, Snoop, BG & Clipse - 4 hip hop debuts, not one hitting 100K first week :-\
and timbaland :o hmm well people like the miley cyrus thing more and susan boyle ;D
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and timbaland :o
wow didn't even see Timbaland. Wow BG is gonna outsell him probably. I'm glad BG will outsell him but I did NOT see that coming.
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Hmm, wonder if those numbers take into account iTunes? Snoop was number one on the Hip-Hop album charts yesterday.
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How many big name artists are failing to sell big now, in the last couple months Rihanna, Mariah Carey, 50 Cent and now looks like Snoop, Timbaland and Chris brown are all sellin a lot less than anyone expected
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it was expected. first single wasnt strong enough, video was wack as fuck...focussing on the kids that likes Solja Boy didnt work I guess lol...
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I knew the album wasn't gonna sell that much, it is what it is. Albums these days don't sell shit. All the big names are floppin'.
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I don't think anyone could fault the promotion - the album is being worked hard. Hopefully the album has legs, since "I Wanna Rock" is now starting to catch a buzz.
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Timbaland is a bit of a BAD flop wow
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hopefully these poor sales mean that snoop gives up on tryin to make albums for the ladies, and goes back to his roots with a straight westcoast bangin gfunk style album like the old days. he'd most probably win back old fans and make new ones aswell. aint no real snoop fans tryna hear no lovey-dovey pop-rnb rap from snoop. think its about time he needs to stop trying to follow trends with pop, rnb & dirty south shyt, and represent your coast properly by making westcoast style rap music.
i wont hold my breath for this to happen tho ::)
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I don't think anyone could fault the promotion - the album is being worked hard. Hopefully the album has legs, since "I Wanna Rock" is now starting to catch a buzz.
they are pusshing the promo hard. but are they pushing it the right way? for the right crowd? in my opinion they failed.
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I don't think anyone could fault the promotion - the album is being worked hard. Hopefully the album has legs, since "I Wanna Rock" is now starting to catch a buzz.
your right on that. The album is being seriously promoted. Nothing failed there.
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I don't think anyone could fault the promotion - the album is being worked hard. Hopefully the album has legs, since "I Wanna Rock" is now starting to catch a buzz.
they are pusshing the promo hard. but are they pushing it the right way? for the right crowd? in my opinion they failed.
I'd say that they are pushing it the right way. There's been a welcome embracing of digital promotion (Snoop's Great 8 Countdown, Twitter, etc.) which is a good look - need to grant more interviews to online outlets though. He's also been very visible on television and heard on radio stations so I can't really fault it.
As for to the right crowd - is that more of a commentary on the music? If so, I understand. Some people aren't going to appreciate the music that's being aimed at them on this release. If you're suggesting that he's marketing to the wrong crowd, though, I disagree. I think Snoop's longtime fans are aware of this album. Whether they buy it is on them.
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damn, sorry to hear that. guess i was right when i predicted arround 60-70k for snoop, donno what to say, but with situation today, it was expected. hope I wanna rock will help the sales.
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need to grant more interviews to online outlets though
Agreed
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they are pusshing the promo hard. but are they pushing it the right way? for the right crowd? in my opinion they failed.
i agree. he's making an album that doesnt appeal to his fanbase.
alot of snoop fans stopped buying snoops solo records starting from the 2002 release of "paid tha cost to be tha boss" and onwards.
from 2002 all the way to the present, he's been catering to the pop audience, and alienating his real fanbase.
when you only cater to the pop audience, you have to stay in fashion to them, and keep on switching up your style of music to whats hot in pop to stay relevant.
snoop is better off staying true to the westcoast gangsta rap sound, and people will buy his records for it.
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How many big name artists are failing to sell big now, in the last couple months Rihanna, Mariah Carey, 50 Cent and now looks like Snoop, Timbaland and Chris brown are all sellin a lot less than anyone expected
All well deserved though, those album were all mediocre, playing it safe. I still think that good music on a major label sells well (Em, Jay, Kanye, Alicia...). I wouldn't count out Timbaland like that though, he only did like 120k with Shock Value 1 and he's got plenty of single material left on the album.
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^ two not very good selling albums in a row pointed at a pop audience. Maybe Snoop takes an Ice Cube like route the next time around
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I don't think anyone could fault the promotion - the album is being worked hard. Hopefully the album has legs, since "I Wanna Rock" is now starting to catch a buzz.
your right on that. The album is being seriously promoted. Nothing failed there.
numbers could prove that it is a failure...I do not want to compare Snoop to Jigga (although they both released their 10th album) but although jigga didnt sell much on his first week, you could tell he had an impact, the ad for his album was crazy, the features had some Major and upcoming superstars, he had great videos, and great promotion stunts... and last but not least.. EVERYBODY has its favorite song on his album, most of the songs on his album are memorable, while on Snoopy's side, this album is just another reason why he will never be taken seriously
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^ two not very good selling albums in a row pointed at a pop audience. Maybe Snoop takes an Ice Cube like route the next time around
How much did "Tha Blue Carpet Treatment" sell?
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^ two not very good selling albums in a row pointed at a pop audience. Maybe Snoop takes an Ice Cube like route the next time around
How much did "Tha Blue Carpet Treatment" sell?
Went platinum. Sold very good.
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Dream track didn't catch on
people forget that Sexual Eruption was the #7 track on billboard
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Gucci, Snoop, BG & Clipse - 4 hip hop debuts, not one hitting 100K first week :-\
Debuts?
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I'm glad this album is flopping.
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low numbers for Snoop but I kinda expected it to be honest
great to see B.G. is predicted to hit 40-50K, didn't expect that much at all considering he's just now starting to get a push from the label, he's even supposed to sell more than Clipse too.... damn
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..i guess this is a wake up call for snoopy..shit is not like it use to be before..snoop did release a few good albums but his fans knows he can always do better but he kept fuckin up.. we want a solid album with ur homies!!
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a straight westcoast bangin gfunk style album like the old days.
that'd be pretty cool but thats not gonna happen anytime soon my friend. :-X
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Hm... Maybe it is good that this shit is gonna flop.
This is a major wake up call for Snoop.
Struggling to sell half of 100k!
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Im surprised it even sold that much to be honest
Sad that gucci does those numbers,a lot of stupid people in this world
Im not surprised about timbaland,the album seems to have zero promo,Hell I didnt even know it was coming out.
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As for to the right crowd - is that more of a commentary on the music? If so, I understand. Some people aren't going to appreciate the music that's being aimed at them on this release. If you're suggesting that he's marketing to the wrong crowd, though, I disagree. I think Snoop's longtime fans are aware of this album. Whether they buy it is on them.
Snoop's longtime fans aren't feeling this album (look at the response from this forum for instance). And he's failed to draw in the pop crowd with a big single. Its a lose lose situation. A dope album might have made up for a weak single in the long run. But now he's fucked. He should have made an album for the fans, like he originally said Ego Trippin was going to be.
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hopefully these poor sales mean that snoop gives up on tryin to make albums for the ladies, and goes back to his roots with a straight westcoast bangin gfunk style album like the old days.
G-Funk is dead, homie, it's 2009 and you still wishin for that shit? I'd rather hear a new album like "BTC", it's the last real good album Snoop Dogg released.
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go INDEPENDENT like ICE CUBE
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LOL at people wanting G Funk in 2009.
Anyway Snoops numbers are pretty bad ( I thought they'd be bad but Raekwon sold more than him) but its what he gets for making an album that aimed to appeal to everyone. It attempted to get to the mainstream audience and failed pretty miserably. Gucci did pretty well although with all the buzz he's had on the internet I'd thought he'd at least do a 100k. Hell even Chris Brown and Rihanna have flopped badly (although I'm not sure whether Xmas sales will help those two).
The Clipse did alright and they were supposedly undershipped (although thats everyones excuse) but it'd be nice if they could outsell Birdman. 50s numbers aren't looking as bad when everyone else is coming through with such weak numbers but I can see why Wayne and Game pushed their albums back. Probably spooked by the horrible numbers coming in.
I think some of the UK rappers are selling more than their US counterparts. Lol
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hopefully these poor sales mean that snoop gives up on tryin to make albums for the ladies, and goes back to his roots with a straight westcoast bangin gfunk style album like the old days.
G-Funk is dead, homie, it's 2009 and you still wishin for that shit? I'd rather hear a new album like "BTC", it's the last real good album Snoop Dogg released.
I hear Germany is barely getting that shit. :laugh:
and I agree, BTC was bangin, few fillers here and there though, but some dope singles came out 8)
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hopefully these poor sales mean that snoop gives up on tryin to make albums for the ladies, and goes back to his roots with a straight westcoast bangin gfunk style album like the old days.
G-Funk is dead, homie, it's 2009 and you still wishin for that shit? I'd rather hear a new album like "BTC", it's the last real good album Snoop Dogg released.
I hear Germany is barely getting that shit. :laugh:
and I agree, BTC was bangin, few fillers here and there though, but some dope singles came out 8)
what is BTC?
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Susan boyle hit yet another 600000k :D
Wow are you fuckin serious?
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Gucci, Snoop, BG & Clipse - 4 hip hop debuts, not one hitting 100K first week :-\
Debuts?
what dont ya get about it? all those albums are "Debuting" onto the charts this week.
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Susan boyle hit yet another 600000k :D
you mean 600k.
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Timbaland is a bit of a BAD flop wow
I haven't heard anything outside of this board or random sites about Timbos album, never heard a track on radio, in a club or at a party, or seen a video get play. So it's not surprising, Interscopes marketing team seem to have fallen the fuck off, or all been fired
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Timbaland is a bit of a BAD flop wow
I haven't heard anything outside of this board or random sites about Timbos album, never heard a track on radio, in a club or at a party, or seen a video get play. So it's not surprising, Interscopes marketing team seem to have fallen the fuck off, or all been fired
That Morning AFter Dark track is getting play, heard it in the clubs
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Susan boyle hit yet another 600000k :D
you mean 600k.
yes 600k
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what is BTC?
shit, my bad. BCT...blue carpet treatment. but u knew that ; )
Susan boyle hit yet another 600000k :D
snoop still has highest first week sales for a debut, 900k.
surprised at the susan boyle sales tho. good for her ;D
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gucci mane - 80k with all the radio play and promotion videos .. FLOP
Clipse - flopped too
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what is BTC?
shit, my bad. BCT...blue carpet treatment. but u knew that ; )
Susan boyle hit yet another 600000k :D
snoop still has highest first week sales for a debut, 900k.
surprised at the susan boyle sales tho. good for her ;D
Eminem did something like 1.4 mil with the MMLP so I think Snoop lost that 900k title a long time ago
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Timbaland is a bit of a BAD flop wow
I haven't heard anything outside of this board or random sites about Timbos album, never heard a track on radio, in a club or at a party, or seen a video get play. So it's not surprising, Interscopes marketing team seem to have fallen the fuck off, or all been fired
That Morning AFter Dark track is getting play, heard it in the clubs
Oh word? Haven't listened to the album yet, track any good?
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what is BTC?
shit, my bad. BCT...blue carpet treatment. but u knew that ; )
Susan boyle hit yet another 600000k :D
snoop still has highest first week sales for a debut, 900k.
surprised at the susan boyle sales tho. good for her ;D
Eminem did something like 1.4 mil with the MMLP so I think Snoop lost that 900k title a long time ago
No, Snoop still has it.
Keyword, "Debut" album.
Susan is in second with 700 but Snoop is in first with 800.
And on a side note, i think this was kinda underestimated.
I think Snoop could do 100K or rounded to it.
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10th solo album shouldv been kinda SPECIAL.... like too shorts 10th album
but snoop fucked up his 10th album...
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what is BTC?
shit, my bad. BCT...blue carpet treatment. but u knew that ; )
Susan boyle hit yet another 600000k :D
snoop still has highest first week sales for a debut, 900k.
surprised at the susan boyle sales tho. good for her ;D
Eminem did something like 1.4 mil with the MMLP so I think Snoop lost that 900k title a long time ago
No, Snoop still has it.
Keyword, "Debut" album.
Susan is in second with 700 but Snoop is in first with 800.
And on a side note, i think this was kinda underestimated.
I think Snoop could do 100K or rounded to it.
Oh I get what ya mean now, that's dope that he still holds it
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Timbaland is a bit of a BAD flop wow
I haven't heard anything outside of this board or random sites about Timbos album, never heard a track on radio, in a club or at a party, or seen a video get play. So it's not surprising, Interscopes marketing team seem to have fallen the fuck off, or all been fired
saw the vid for his single yday, he spends most of it pulling weird faces at the camera.
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Interscope has fallen the fuck off big time.They dont seem to promote anyone these days.50 may have been all over the place,but gauranteed that was him doing that alone on the strength of his name.Seems like they spent nothing promoting him,same with eminem.Wale had a decent push i suppose.timbaland had nothing.the knux had nothing.
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Timbaland is a bit of a BAD flop wow
I haven't heard anything outside of this board or random sites about Timbos album, never heard a track on radio, in a club or at a party, or seen a video get play. So it's not surprising, Interscopes marketing team seem to have fallen the fuck off, or all been fired
saw the vid for his single yday, he spends most of it pulling weird faces at the camera.
Lol Timbo screw facing the camera
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Interscope has fallen the fuck off big time.They dont seem to promote anyone these days.50 may have been all over the place,but gauranteed that was him doing that alone on the strength of his name.Seems like they spent nothing promoting him,same with eminem.Wale had a decent push i suppose.timbaland had nothing.the knux had nothing.
Yeah it seemed Fifty did all the promo himself, interviews, appearances etc. Wheres the TV, Radio and Poster advertising? Em had some good advertising with that whole Relapse center they opened up in England for that day or some shit, website etc. Other than that, nothing. Black Eyed Peas got quite a bit, but yeah they fallen off big time
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http://hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi
CHART DATE: 12/14/2009
LAST UPDATE: 12/14/2009 16:09:36
NOW IN: 37.17%
-- 12 GUCCI MANE WARNER BROS. 32,777
STATE VS. RADRIC DAVIS
-- 17 SNOOP DOGG PRIORITY/EMI 22,401
MALICE 'N WONDERLAND
-- 19 CHRIS BROWN JIVE/JLG 21,918
GRAFFITI
-- 41 CLIPSE COLUMBIA 11,885
TIL THE CASKET DROPS
-- 43 B.G. E1 ENTERTAINMENT 11,411
TOO HOOD 2 BE HOLLYWOOD
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looks like snoop is on his way to being the 2nd top seller for new rnb/releases for this week.
not that this is sayin much with those poor numbers. looks like he'll do around 60k
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-- 12 GUCCI MANE WARNER BROS. 32,777
STATE VS. RADRIC DAVIS
-- 17 SNOOP DOGG PRIORITY/EMI 22,401
MALICE 'N WONDERLAND
22K first week?? lol wtf?!
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its only 37.17% in . he's expected to do around 60k
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iTunes Store Top 10 Hip-Hop Albums
US Charts:
1. BlakRoc
BlakRoc
2. The Ecstatic
Mos Def
3. The Blueprint 3
Jay-Z
4. 808s & Heartbreak (Bonus Video Version)
Kanye West
5. Malice 'N Wonderland
Snoop Dogg
6. Licensed to Ill
Beastie Boys
7. Reasonable Doubt
Jay-Z
8. The State vs. Radric Davis
Gucci Mane
9. Three Eyes Off the Time
The Grouch
10. Monkey Business
Black Eyed Peas
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AUS itunes hiphop charts:
6. Malice 'N Wonderland
Snoop Dogg
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Canada itunes hiphop charts:
7. Malice 'N Wonderland
Snoop Dogg
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Japan itunes hiphop charts:
2. Malice 'N Wonderland
Snoop Dogg
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NZ itunes hiphop charts:
3. Malice 'N Wonderland
Snoop Dogg
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netherlands itunes hiphop charts:
8. Malice 'N Wonderland
Snoop Dogg
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switzerland itunes hiphop charts:
10. Malice 'N Wonderland
Snoop Dogg
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its only 37.17% in . he's expected to do around 60k
thats fuckin bad
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yeh, everyones doin bad right now except jay-z. he aint doin big numbers now, but he's already platinum.
50cent did very well for first week sales considering the market climate
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yeh, everyones doin bad right now except jay-z. he aint doin big numbers now, but he's already platinum.
50cent did very well for first week sales considering the market climate
yea 50 made great numbers.. i`ve been sayin this for a while
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CHART DATE: 12/14/2009
LAST UPDATE: 12/14/2009 18:57:20
NOW IN: 70.38%
-- 9 CHRIS BROWN JIVE/JLG 60,723
GRAFFITI
-- 10 GUCCI MANE WARNER BROS. 60,492
STATE VS. RADRIC DAVIS
-- 15 SNOOP DOGG PRIORITY/EMI 44,682
MALICE 'N WONDERLAND
-- 36 TIMBALAND BLACKGROUND/UNIV MOTOWN 24,227
SHOCK VALUE II
-- 47 CLIPSE COLUMBIA 18,101
TIL THE CASKET DROPS
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Amazon.com Sales Rank: #46 in MP3 Albums
#4 in MP3 Albums > Rap & Hip-Hop
#25 in MP3 Albums > Pop
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Amazon.com Sales Rank: #351 in Music (cd's / hard copies)
#6 in Music > Rap & Hip-Hop
#6 in Music > Pop > Pop Rap
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This album wont even crack 100,000.And it doesnt deserve to either,its a steaming pile of crap.
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wow,im gonna get it tomorrow. but is it really that bad of an album?
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wow,im gonna get it tomorrow. but is it really that bad of an album?
dont waste any money on this ... this is unlistenable for the most part ... I never thought I will say one day that Snoop has a worst album than "Da game is to be sold , not to be told " ... I was wrong
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wow,im gonna get it tomorrow. but is it really that bad of an album?
There is alot opinios if its a good albums or not, personally i think its a good mainstream album, but thats all its is. if you like the less mainstream Snoop get the " i wanna rock" mixtapes and the many leftover tracks. Or just buy "tha blue carpet treatment" or doggystyle.. I mean he have millions off fans :P
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There is alot opinios if its a good albums or not, personally i think its a good mainstream album, but thats all its is.
Exactly.
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snoop still has highest first week sales for a debut, 900k.
I think it was just over 800k and I think 50 Cent beat him.
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Terrible sales considering its his tenth solo. He should have been going in hard to do something special, instead we get malice in wonderland. No dre even though they been in the studio was dissapointing. Sure it could have all been for detox but surely dre and snoop could have come up with some snoop shit for his tenth solo. Dissapointing, i have huge respect for snoop as a solo artist too, but this is just dissapointing. Terrible numbers.
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Terrible sales considering its his tenth solo. He should have been going in hard to do something special, instead we get malice in wonderland. No dre even though they been in the studio was dissapointing. Sure it could have all been for detox but surely dre and snoop could have come up with some snoop shit for his tenth solo. Dissapointing, i have huge respect for snoop as a solo artist too, but this is just dissapointing. Terrible numbers.
Whats even worse is he did it again claiming his album was gonna be something totally different then what ended up being put out. He claimed on many occassions early on that him and dre were working on his upcoming album. Even if dre did some mixing for the album its not much and i know everything dre puts out now isnt a automatic classic but i can guarantee if he woulda done some beats for snoop it woulda been a lot better then some of the crap that made the album. I still don't see how this guy doesnt see a album overseen by dre being a no brainer for success and sales.
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Even if dre did some mixing for the album its not much and i know everything dre puts out now isnt a automatic classic but i can guarantee if he woulda done some beats for snoop it woulda been a lot better then some of the crap that made the album. I still don't see how this guy doesnt see a album overseen by dre being a no brainer for success and sales.
Dr. Dre only mixed "I Wanna Rock".