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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on December 23, 2009, 10:46:54 PM
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why were religions invented and why?
its almost as if we need to identify ourselves with our religions...in some cases
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Religions were started by groups of people to justify why certain unexplainable things occur before they were understandable. Things such as natural disasters, death, eclipses, etc. are all simplified by most religions. Then it was used to control the masses later on.
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but damn they made it to where its complicated and you have to go to school to learn all the tricks and trades and info etc...jus to learn that religion
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Religions were started by groups of people to justify why certain unexplainable things occur before they were understandable. Things such as natural disasters, death, eclipses, etc. are all simplified by most religions. Then it was used to control the masses later on.
Yes and later religions also gave you some morals to live by.
Kind of hard to see now but what jesus said was to do right by not stealing etc.
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god invented religon
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god invented religon
So who invented God?
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Translation: Surah 112: Al-Ikhlas (The Unity, Sincerity, Oneness Of God)
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
4. And there is none like unto Him
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so allah invented god?
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Religion was created by man to control people's mind.
Joseph Smith who's the founder of Mormonism did it as well as Charles T. Russell who's the founder of Jehovah's witness. They are still controlling millions from the grave and earned a hell of a lot of money from those suckers, too.
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Religions were started by groups of people to justify why certain unexplainable things occur before they were understandable. Things such as natural disasters, death, eclipses, etc. are all simplified by most religions. Then it was used to control the masses later on.
Religion has many uses. Obviously it has been used by people as a means to control others, or explain whatever mysteries people encountered.
But taking Islam for example, people practice it for any number of reasons...
-Identification- For example, Black people have historically identified with Islam in America because it offers them something to identify with other than the slave ships, and the religion of their slave master. Offers them a deeper and richer history which traces back to what was the original religion for many people coming from West Africa. A time when they were wealthy kings and queens (Mali Kingdom of Mansa Musa) in control of their own destiny.
-Affiliation/brotherhood- If a Muslim has to leave his homeland and travel to the West, he may be all alone in a world unlike his own if not for Islam. Because of Islam, in any major city in the world, he can immediately connect with the Muslims there and find anything from friendship, a place to stay, a job, connections to back home, familiar lifestyles/identities, etc. Likewise if an American Muslim travels to a Muslim country in Asia or Africa he can immediately find assimilation into his environment.
-Practice, focus, knowledge, discipline- With Islam's attention to daily details it can allow the believer to continue to move forward in life and live in the present-tense. You see some people grow bitter as they get older and life deals them an unfair hand, but a Muslim continues to remind himself throughout the day to remain grateful to Allah, and pays attention to everything from the 5 daily prayers both at home and in the masjid, daily thikrs (remembrence when waking, before sleep, before driving, before eating) walking stepping in musallah with right foot or bathroom with left foot, washing, bathing, Islamic greetings when encountering others, fasting.... so throughout his day he lives in the present tense and stays focused on gratitude towards Allah and never becomes bitter or downtrodden.
Belief- The core of the Islamic belief is simple and true. There is nothing man-made to worship, like a person, place or time as you find in Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism... but rather you are only believing in the Eternal, Infinite Creator.
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-Identification- For example, Black people have historically identified with Islam in America because it offers them something to identify with other than the slave ships, and the religion of their slave master. Offers them a deeper and richer history which traces back to what was the original religion for many people coming from West Africa. A time when they were wealthy kings and queens (Mali Kingdom of Mansa Musa) in control of their own destiny.
Honestly, I don't see no big difference. The Quran was written after The Bible. So when people say that shit that The Bible is the white man's laws, is bullshit, it's not like it's any different. Quran even says that itself. So I don't get all that. It says in the beginning that between the prophets, it's no difference they all came from God. Just becuz a white man used Christianity in the wrong way doesn't knock it's authenticity or make it a white man's book. Just becuz they painted white portraits don't make it that way neither. Them folks used it vainly. That's it. We know the folks in The Bible was not British white like when they came to America wit the shit. Quran confirms, creation, Moses, Jesus, even the apostles, and so on and so forth, so what makes them completely diverse? What I got from The Quran more than The Bible was the emphasis on non-believers more than anythang. Now when The Bible, drops names, dates and events coinciding wit archaeological evidence and The Quran is dropping explanations wit scientific backings.... if one coincides 'History' and The one coincides 'Science', niggas need to put them together. They both great books!! Christianity ain't no white man's Scripture like The Quran ain't no black man's Scripture. Jesus said in The Book Of John another prophet will be sent to bring remembrance of Jesus's teachings of God, Muhammad was born like 5 or 6 centuries after Jesus right? So how we know Jesus could have been talkin' bout Muhammad.
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Translation: Surah 112: Al-Ikhlas (The Unity, Sincerity, Oneness Of God)
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
4. And there is none like unto Him
Exactly. If God is the energy and infinite light, if he's outside the matter and time, the question ain't who invented God, that can't be invented, question is who invented THIS.
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-Identification- For example, Black people have historically identified with Islam in America because it offers them something to identify with other than the slave ships, and the religion of their slave master. Offers them a deeper and richer history which traces back to what was the original religion for many people coming from West Africa. A time when they were wealthy kings and queens (Mali Kingdom of Mansa Musa) in control of their own destiny.
Honestly, I don't see no big difference. The Quran was written after The Bible. So when people say that shit that The Bible is the white man's laws, is bullshit, it's not like it's any different. Quran even says that itself. So I don't get all that. It says in the beginning that between the prophets, it's no difference they all came from God. Just becuz a white man used Christianity in the wrong way doesn't knock it's authenticity or make it a white man's book. Just becuz they painted white portraits don't make it that way neither. Them folks used it vainly. That's it. We know the folks in The Bible was not British white like when they came to America wit the shit. Quran confirms, creation, Moses, Jesus, even the apostles, and so on and so forth, so what makes them completely diverse? What I got from The Quran more than The Bible was the emphasis on non-believers more than anythang. Now when The Bible, drops names, dates and events coinciding wit archaeological evidence and The Quran is dropping explanations wit scientific backings.... if one coincides 'History' and The one coincides 'Science', niggas need to put them together. They both great books!! Christianity ain't no white man's Scripture like The Quran ain't no black man's Scripture. Jesus said in The Book Of John another prophet will be sent to bring remembrance of Jesus's teachings of God, Muhammad was born like 5 or 6 centuries after Jesus right? So how we know Jesus could have been talkin' bout Muhammad.
Notice, I was talking about Identification. You are talking about theology. So we are talking about two different things. Yes, the Bible has similarities to the Qu'ran as you said. But that is not the point.
Historically, although you say the Bible and Qu'ran are similar, the histories of Christians and Muslims have not been similar. If you look at black people in America and ask, "How did you become a Christian"? The answer is, "Through slavery". So many blacks in America were not comfortable with this answer, and they didn't want to identify with that part of their history.
Let's say an Alien came to America. And they wanted to Identify with either Christianity and Islam. They read the history of Christains in America and they didn't like it for whatever reasons, they met with Christians in their environment and they did not feel comfortable around them for whatever reason. Then they read the history of Muslims in America and they were inspired, and they found it easy to biuld relationships with Muslims in their environment. So therefore, they they identify with Muslims.
Another example could be an Arab comes over to America with Zero understanding of Islam. The Christians in the country reject him mostly or because of his race. Yet, the Muslims accept him naturally because of his race and language. So therefore he identifies more with Islam, and it's possible he may start attending a local masjid and making efforts to learn more and practice more Islam.
So... you see I was talking about Identification and you were talking about Theology.
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Oh you mean like how a person chooses a religion? I see what you're sayin'. I thought you meant somethang different, lol.
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Translation: Surah 112: Al-Ikhlas (The Unity, Sincerity, Oneness Of God)
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
4. And there is none like unto Him
Exactly. If God is the energy and infinite light, if he's outside the matter and time, the question ain't who invented God, that can't be invented, question is who invented THIS.
See in Islam, Allah has 99 names. So he is the Creator of this. Because "Creator" is one of his 99 names. So when we worship we are worshiping the Creator. Also, we are worshiping the "Infinite/Eternal", which means we worship what has always been here forever and ever with no beginning and no in.
So to answer your question Allah is both. He is the Infinite energy and the Source of all that is in Creation.
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Oh you mean like how a person chooses a religion? I see what you're sayin'. I thought you meant somethang different, lol.
Word... not only how a person chooses a religion, but the question for the thread was "why" is their religion. And I was pointing out that people practice Islam for many different reasons.
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did adam and eve have anythin to do with the makin of all this religion stuff?
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Translation: Surah 112: Al-Ikhlas (The Unity, Sincerity, Oneness Of God)
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
4. And there is none like unto Him
Exactly. If God is the energy and infinite light, if he's outside the matter and time, the question ain't who invented God, that can't be invented, question is who invented THIS.
See in Islam, Allah has 99 names. So he is the Creator of this. Because "Creator" is one of his 99 names. So when we worship we are worshiping the Creator. Also, we are worshiping the "Infinite/Eternal", which means we worship what has always been here forever and ever with no beginning and no in.
So to answer your question Allah is both. He is the Infinite energy and the Source of all that is in Creation.
Word up, I understand this, it's those skeptics that don't. :D That's why I ask. Cuz they answer-less. :D
Oh you mean like how a person chooses a religion? I see what you're sayin'. I thought you meant somethang different, lol.
Word... not only how a person chooses a religion, but the question for the thread was "why" is their religion. And I was pointing out that people practice Islam for many different reasons.
Yeah, lol, that's my bad.
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did adam and eve have anythin to do with the makin of all this religion stuff?
No, it can be understood as a religious parable, you don't have to take it literally. The Qu'ran talks about it to show that first there was Allah and that Allah is perfection. That once all things existed in that realm of perfection. Yet, we have slipped down to this Earth where it appears that there is so much imperfection, yet if we turn towards Allah then we can be redirected towards the first cause and our origional state of submission, oneness (Islam) with Allah's perfection.
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not many people know this but religion was invented in Harlem during the early 1930s. my spirit guide told me.
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not many people know this but religion was invented in Harlem during the early 1930s. my spirit guide told me.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Everyone knows it was invented in South Bronx. You're spirit must be a member of the Juice Crew.
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Religions were started by groups of people to justify why certain unexplainable things occur before they were understandable. Things such as natural disasters, death, eclipses, etc. are all simplified by most religions. Then it was used to control the masses later on.
Religion has many uses. Obviously it has been used by people as a means to control others, or explain whatever mysteries people encountered.
But taking Islam for example, people practice it for any number of reasons...
-Identification- For example, Black people have historically identified with Islam in America because it offers them something to identify with other than the slave ships, and the religion of their slave master. Offers them a deeper and richer history which traces back to what was the original religion for many people coming from West Africa. A time when they were wealthy kings and queens (Mali Kingdom of Mansa Musa) in control of their own destiny.
-Affiliation/brotherhood- If a Muslim has to leave his homeland and travel to the West, he may be all alone in a world unlike his own if not for Islam. Because of Islam, in any major city in the world, he can immediately connect with the Muslims there and find anything from friendship, a place to stay, a job, connections to back home, familiar lifestyles/identities, etc. Likewise if an American Muslim travels to a Muslim country in Asia or Africa he can immediately find assimilation into his environment.
-Practice, focus, knowledge, discipline- With Islam's attention to daily details it can allow the believer to continue to move forward in life and live in the present-tense. You see some people grow bitter as they get older and life deals them an unfair hand, but a Muslim continues to remind himself throughout the day to remain grateful to Allah, and pays attention to everything from the 5 daily prayers both at home and in the masjid, daily thikrs (remembrence when waking, before sleep, before driving, before eating) walking stepping in musallah with right foot or bathroom with left foot, washing, bathing, Islamic greetings when encountering others, fasting.... so throughout his day he lives in the present tense and stays focused on gratitude towards Allah and never becomes bitter or downtrodden.
Belief- The core of the Islamic belief is simple and true. There is nothing man-made to worship, like a person, place or time as you find in Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism... but rather you are only believing in the Eternal, Infinite Creator.
I got all that and more without religion. Religion is for weak-minded people who need a security blanket.
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Religions were started by groups of people to justify why certain unexplainable things occur before they were understandable. Things such as natural disasters, death, eclipses, etc. are all simplified by most religions. Then it was used to control the masses later on.
Religion has many uses. Obviously it has been used by people as a means to control others, or explain whatever mysteries people encountered.
But taking Islam for example, people practice it for any number of reasons...
-Identification- For example, Black people have historically identified with Islam in America because it offers them something to identify with other than the slave ships, and the religion of their slave master. Offers them a deeper and richer history which traces back to what was the original religion for many people coming from West Africa. A time when they were wealthy kings and queens (Mali Kingdom of Mansa Musa) in control of their own destiny.
-Affiliation/brotherhood- If a Muslim has to leave his homeland and travel to the West, he may be all alone in a world unlike his own if not for Islam. Because of Islam, in any major city in the world, he can immediately connect with the Muslims there and find anything from friendship, a place to stay, a job, connections to back home, familiar lifestyles/identities, etc. Likewise if an American Muslim travels to a Muslim country in Asia or Africa he can immediately find assimilation into his environment.
-Practice, focus, knowledge, discipline- With Islam's attention to daily details it can allow the believer to continue to move forward in life and live in the present-tense. You see some people grow bitter as they get older and life deals them an unfair hand, but a Muslim continues to remind himself throughout the day to remain grateful to Allah, and pays attention to everything from the 5 daily prayers both at home and in the masjid, daily thikrs (remembrence when waking, before sleep, before driving, before eating) walking stepping in musallah with right foot or bathroom with left foot, washing, bathing, Islamic greetings when encountering others, fasting.... so throughout his day he lives in the present tense and stays focused on gratitude towards Allah and never becomes bitter or downtrodden.
Belief- The core of the Islamic belief is simple and true. There is nothing man-made to worship, like a person, place or time as you find in Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism... but rather you are only believing in the Eternal, Infinite Creator.
I got all that and more without religion. Religion is for weak-minded people who need a security blanket.
are u an atheist? or do you belive godd does maybe exist maybe not
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Sik's just got a lil bit of The Devil in him, that's all. Lol.
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basically its either two things, it was invented to explain the unexplainable and/or to control the masses and to keep society morally sound.
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The Reptilians created religion because humans were created to be sheeple to serve the Repitilians and are not suppose to know that Reptilians exist so they created a story about some guy that lives in the sky.