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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: OG Hack Wilson on January 13, 2010, 05:59:59 PM
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I'll go with Snoop Doggy Dogg, even though Eazy is one of my favorite artists too.
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No Eazy, No Snoop ;D
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aite some consider eazy e the king of compton?
godfather of gangsta rap?
all those aside...
and what did eazy accomplish that snoop didnt?
1.lyrics = snoop wins
2.image = eazy wins but snoop can and does rep the coast at times
3.delivery = snoop
4.who wrote their own lyrics = snoop
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eazy didnt write his own lyrics?
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common are u serious? without eazy there's no snoop....no matter if it's rapping wise or not eazy will always win cause eazy woulda never sold out his coast like snoop did end of story... ;)
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Eazy's my favorite rapper of all time. But as far as who's better, it probably depends on what you mean by "better." Was Snoop a better technical rapper than Eazy?...maybe. Especially if you're talking about Snoop in his prime. And if you factor in that Snoop probably wrote more of his own lyrics than Eazy. On the other hand, if you factor accomplishments and contributions to the genre in deciding who's better, I'm not so sure that it is so "clear-cut." I'd say you'd probably have to give it to Eazy in that case.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/1_7Cx0dwmh4
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I like both but i say eazy he was realer and the original crip of the rap game. Snoop loses some points bcuz he kinda got watered down. But they're both the shit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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common are u serious? without eazy there's no snoop....
So does that mean Kool Herc is better than every rapper alive or dead?
I gotta say Snoop again and again. People get so lost in what's going on today that they forget how dope Snoop really was. If it's a popularity contest, you might give it to Eazy but if you take the favoritism out of it and look at realistically, Snoop blows him away. Unless we're talking about running record companies then it's probably a complete role reversal.
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Silky Smooth aka Tha Doggfather
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eazy didnt write his own lyrics?
He never wrote his lyrics, The D.O.C. wrote all of his lyrics in the N.W.A. days and after that i think BG Knocc Out and Dre'sta wrote for him.
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you referring to old school snoop or now?
either way id go with eazy but there you go
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you referring to old school snoop or now?
either way id go with eazy but there you go
Yeah, he's talkin' about Snoop Doggy Dogg.
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damn for real
how can the GODFATHER OF GANGSTA RAP not write his own lyrics but try and hold that title?
good looks for that eazy
at least snoop wrote some of his lyrics...lol
eazy didnt write his own lyrics?
He never wrote his lyrics, The D.O.C. wrote all of his lyrics in the N.W.A. days and after that i think BG Knocc Out and Dre'sta wrote for him.
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Eazy E - The Godfather Of Gangstarap BY FAR!
BTW, he DID wrote his own shit. It's confirmed that he wrote his verse from Fuck Tha Police... The track The Muthaphukkin' Real is also confirmed by Ren! He wrote the majority of his last album Str8 Off Tha Streetz Of Muthaphukkin' Compton! Sometimes with the help from O.G. Shaki/Dirty Red, Dre'sta and KnoccOut, sometimes WITHOUT any help!
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Eazy-E
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As much I don't care anymore about Snoop I have to say that without a doubt he provided me with MUCH more dope music.
No matter who's the techinally/flow-wise/delivery-wise better rapper. Also Eazy-E just didn't have the time to fall off that hard.
Whatever, for the only aspect that matters, the amount of good music, Snoop.
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wtf? these are 2 west coast legends, their the same
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damn that snoop clip is dope as fuck. 8)
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damn that snoop clip is dope as fuck. 8)
Hell yeah, you want the MP3 of that? I got it but it's not CDQ, good quality though.
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Snoop Doggy Dogg > Eazy
Eazy > Snoop Dogg
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Eazy E - The Godfather Of Gangstarap BY FAR!
BTW, he DID wrote his own shit. It's confirmed that he wrote his verse from Fuck Tha Police... The track The Muthaphukkin' Real is also confirmed by Ren! He wrote the majority of his last album Str8 Off Tha Streetz Of Muthaphukkin' Compton! Sometimes with the help from O.G. Shaki/Dirty Red, Dre'sta and KnoccOut, sometimes WITHOUT any help!
He did write his own stuff. But he didn't write all of his own stuff. But I'm not saying that as a diss. In the beginning Eazy didn't even plan on being a performing member of the group. Dre talked him into it. I think he wrote more of his stuff as he progressed in his career. But early on, Ice Cube and D.O.C. wrote a lot of his stuff.
I'm still going to stick by my answer of who's "better" depends on what you mean by "better." But as far as whose music do I prefer, I have to go with Eazy.
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Hard to compare. Eazy helped pave the way for the Westcoast cats. But be real...Snoop made it cool, and made the whole world at one point wanna be from the Westcoast. Shit...I wonder if this site would even exist without Snoops influence on the game. I aint partial to either really. But I gotta be real about shit...I dunno if theres a rapper out there who has had more influence on the rap game then Snoop has had.
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Eazy-muthaphukkin'-E hands down. The guy has more than one title than a "gangsta rapper" he was successful in compared to Snoop.
It's like saying Snoop or Tha Dogg Pound? People will say Snoop because without him, there'd be no Daz or Kurupt. Why can't this be applied to Eazy and Snoop?
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Eazy E Why??? If it wasn't for him, N.W.A, G-Funk, Death Row, NONE of that would ever come 2 past. Ice Cube would of gone 2 college, snoop probably die in a drug deal, Eazy probably die from a drug deal (lol), Dr. Dre and Yella would either A. Still be in World Class Wreckin Cru and DJing in clubs, and MC Ren would probably just be at some crappy 9 to 5. Even snoop wouldn't of had a carrier cause There would be no NWA thus no Riff between cube, and then later a Riff between everyone. :/ Its pretty much a wierd ass Cycle of events. I'm not even joking.
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more ppl like snoop so far
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sold out or not...snoop can and does make better songs that eazy did
more ppl like snoop so far
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sold out or not...snoop can and does make better songs that eazy did
more ppl like snoop so far
imo "8 ball" and "Boyz in the hood" would be better to me than anyone track Snoop made except for the fact that back in his prime in the 90's on death row, snoop actually wrote most of his lyrics (some DOC help)
eazy = all ghost writers....whether it was DOC or Ren or someone in ATL or whomever
but i do say chronic and doggystyle = top 5 cds ever
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dont matter overall talkin
snoop wins cuz when he wants to be he can be a better rapper and hes made better songs than eazy e and many more
you really think eazy e is the godfather of gangsta rap?
sold out or not...snoop can and does make better songs that eazy did
more ppl like snoop so far
imo "8 ball" and "Boyz in the hood" would be better to me than anyone track Snoop made except for the fact that back in his prime in the 90's on death row, snoop actually wrote most of his lyrics (some DOC help)
eazy = all ghost writers....whether it was DOC or Ren or someone in ATL or whomever
but i do say chronic and doggystyle = top 5 cds ever
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no....Dre is
cuz Dre's beats made N.W.A.
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altho i agree dre is the godfather of gangsta rap...many wont
but eazy cant get the godfather of gangsta rap when he wasnt as good as snoop, dre, or some even say cube and others
another overrated rapper...eazy e
no....Dre is
cuz Dre's beats made N.W.A.
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altho i agree dre is the godfather of gangsta rap...many wont
but eazy cant get the godfather of gangsta rap when he wasnt as good as snoop, dre, or some even say cube and others
another overrated rapper...eazy e
no....Dre is
cuz Dre's beats made N.W.A.
Cube>Any West Coast rapper. (Yes, Including 2Pac)
Oh yeah.... Forgot to put, IMO
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even ras kass might not be the godfather of gangsta rap
as far as rappin tho
ras kass>>>>eazy e
ras kass>>>>ice cube
whats so special about eazy e?
and did cube write all of his songs?
altho i agree dre is the godfather of gangsta rap...many wont
but eazy cant get the godfather of gangsta rap when he wasnt as good as snoop, dre, or some even say cube and others
another overrated rapper...eazy e
no....Dre is
cuz Dre's beats made N.W.A.
Cube>Any West Coast rapper. (Yes, Including 2Pac)
Oh yeah.... Forgot to put, IMO
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this shit isn't debatable. Eazy wasn't really no rapper so to say and that's all what Snoop was about back then. U can't even compare, it's kinda like on the same level as the Kanye/50 drama... two totally different perspectives. all they could rap about to each other was killin each other lol. this poll is void.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhoZ5c2kCI8
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even ras kass might not be the godfather of gangsta rap
as far as rappin tho
ras kass>>>>eazy e
ras kass>>>>ice cube
whats so special about eazy e?
and did cube write all of his songs?
Not sure? But I do know he wrote "Boyz-N-The Hood" & "Dopeman" those got the ball rolling & without those....
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altho i agree dre is the godfather of gangsta rap...many wont
but eazy cant get the godfather of gangsta rap when he wasnt as good as snoop, dre, or some even say cube and others
another overrated rapper...eazy e
no....Dre is
cuz Dre's beats made N.W.A.
tbh i'd say ice cube should be godfather of gangsta rap. just my opinion though
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Eazy E Why??? If it wasn't for him, N.W.A, G-Funk, Death Row, NONE of that would ever come 2 past. Ice Cube would of gone 2 college, snoop probably die in a drug deal, Eazy probably die from a drug deal (lol), Dr. Dre and Yella would either A. Still be in World Class Wreckin Cru and DJing in clubs, and MC Ren would probably just be at some crappy 9 to 5. Even snoop wouldn't of had a carrier cause There would be no NWA thus no Riff between cube, and then later a Riff between everyone. :/ Its pretty much a wierd ass Cycle of events. I'm not even joking.
Exactly. Eazy-E is the "Godfather of Gangsta Rap" because he created the super group that most modern day successful rappers are, by extension, a part of. Most successful contemporary rap artists can be traced back to the NWA family tree in one way or another. In addition to that, he created a business model that many other companies such as Death Row, Aftermath, Rap-A-Lot, No Limit, etc. have tried to copy.
Now, if we're judging based on skill as a rapper, I can see that an argument could be made for Snoop being the "better" rapper. But using the above criteria, I think you'd have to give it to Eazy. Snoop in his prime was great. And at various points in his career, Snoop has been good. But it really is true that Snoop probably wouldn't have had a career if it weren't for Eazy.
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Pretty much everyone of N.W.A Is considered The God Father of Gangsta Rap (School D is considered The Father and creator) Ice T is considered another great but N.W.A is what revolutionize everything.
Only reason we don't call The other members God Father all the time is because they've expanded into something greater (normally).
Dr. Dre - G-Funk, Death Row, Eminem Founder, Aftermath, The Producer
Ice Cube - The Fuck the system, no holds bar Don Mega. Cube The one who openly said Fuck Amerikkka, highlighted hypocrisy and could make a album that didn't pander 2 Gangsta shit even though its 1 of the more hardcore shit around (death Certificate). He mostly became known now as the member who turned Rapper/Actor.
MC Ren - The Villain, Underground member of N.W.A.
DJ Yella - Well He only did 1 album, but mostly was a producer. Left the industry and pretty much Directed Porn. He barely retains the title cause he was a active member of N.W.A
Eazy E - This is his only title cause that's all he did. He didn't do any Innovated stuff with production, all he did was open ruthless, put together N.W.A, and created acts like Bone Thugs. Carrier Wise, his rapping only stuck out do to his vocals, his production on later albums was derived of the G-Funk Dr. Dre made popular, Only reason he didn't fade out into the underground like ren was because of his Feud with Dre and Death Row. Death Row acourse at the time had become the number 1 label at the time do to its huge innovated releases.
So its not like the title was really put on E cause he is dead. Its cause He and the other members of N.W.A helped rap Progress at the time in there own way.
Now if it came to Skill on the mic. I'm going with Snoop only when he does his G-Funk flow. Cause when he raps normally, he's just pedestrian. Only when he can flow with a slow groove does it empathize his style. Eazy On the other hand wins when it comes 2 the Comedic elements that he retain in all of his albums.
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try tellin that to everyone else that someone besides eazy e is the godfather of gangsta rap...maybe not dre but it shouldnt be eazy
altho i agree dre is the godfather of gangsta rap...many wont
but eazy cant get the godfather of gangsta rap when he wasnt as good as snoop, dre, or some even say cube and others
another overrated rapper...eazy e
no....Dre is
cuz Dre's beats made N.W.A.
tbh i'd say ice cube should be godfather of gangsta rap. just my opinion though
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try tellin that to everyone else that someone besides eazy e is the godfather of gangsta rap...maybe not dre but it shouldnt be eazy
altho i agree dre is the godfather of gangsta rap...many wont
but eazy cant get the godfather of gangsta rap when he wasnt as good as snoop, dre, or some even say cube and others
another overrated rapper...eazy e
no....Dre is
cuz Dre's beats made N.W.A.
tbh i'd say ice cube should be godfather of gangsta rap. just my opinion though
Eh, God Father is held a position of respect and power. Seeing as how N.W.A reached Notoriety that no other band ever has. I mean Think of it like The Beetles, ok now imagine that Positive except reverse it and that's how much they caused problems. I mean N.W.A Albums were actually taken by police under laws of endangerment. Ask anyone 2day, there 2 albums still rank as some of the most hardcore shit U can get ahold of. So considering N.W.A is basically a combination of them all they all deserve the title. the group basically was bring out the best of each artist and that's even without Ice Cube. Rens storytelling was amazing. lol I mean he's talking about a preacher Daughter getting gangbanged as smooth as Dre Chronic album. lol
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N.W.A. was three people. Dr. Dre, Eazy-E, and Ice Cube. And without one, the other two might not have been what they were. Yes, they all went on to success to different degrees without each other but if those first records didn't have Cube's anger, Dre's production, or Eric's business savy then who can say where they'd be today. That being said, Snoop is still the better artist than Eazy in nearly every sense. Eazy was great at the business end but compare his flow on any of those early records (or even later ones) with an early Snoop's flow and it's no contest.
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altho i agree dre is the godfather of gangsta rap...many wont
but eazy cant get the godfather of gangsta rap when he wasnt as good as snoop, dre, or some even say cube and others
another overrated rapper...eazy e
no....Dre is
cuz Dre's beats made N.W.A.
Cube>Any West Coast rapper. (Yes, Including 2Pac)
Oh yeah.... Forgot to put, IMO
makaveli, all eyez on me, r u still down, me against the world, thug life vol 1 and 2pacalypse now are better than ANY ice cube album.
ironically, the one album released in Pac's lifetime that isn't up there with the others in terms of perfection was the one with the Ice Cube guest appearance, "Strictly 4 miy niggaz"
cube does not have the same versatility and subject matter that 2pac has...both have amazing rap voices (both different but they work) and both have their fair share of classics.
but Pac made more classics in less time, and had more lyrical content (he even made a song about his mama lol).
imo
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but Pac made more classics in less time, and had more lyrical content (he even made a song about his mama lol).
LMAO pac more lyrical than Cube? ur fuckin insane
so if ur rappin about ur moms ur pengame is lyrical? so I guess Master P must be one of the greatest wordsmiths of all time..
what r u gon tell us next? dat 2pac was a better rapper than Kool g rap or Chino Xl.
fuck outta here
he never fuckin freestyled in his life - even less off the dome.
2pac was an ARTIST - NOT a Rapper. he couldn't spit if his life depended on it. he was great conceptualy in the writing booth and on an emotional level, but ANY nigga could chew him up alive in a battlecypher -snoop, dpg, biggie anyone. he WASN't a "rapper"- he was a wonderful artist wit a capturing, deep emotional and fantastic voice - a poet (a hiphop version of MLK), but dat's were it stops
peace to the nigga pac - but adding him to 5-top of all time is just stupid and weird. he was never an MC (Master Of the Crowd)
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id prolly agree altho many wont
but yeah pac was a better rapper than cube and pacs muzik is still better than cubes
altho i agree dre is the godfather of gangsta rap...many wont
but eazy cant get the godfather of gangsta rap when he wasnt as good as snoop, dre, or some even say cube and others
another overrated rapper...eazy e
no....Dre is
cuz Dre's beats made N.W.A.
Cube>Any West Coast rapper. (Yes, Including 2Pac)
Oh yeah.... Forgot to put, IMO
makaveli, all eyez on me, r u still down, me against the world, thug life vol 1 and 2pacalypse now are better than ANY ice cube album.
ironically, the one album released in Pac's lifetime that isn't up there with the others in terms of perfection was the one with the Ice Cube guest appearance, "Strictly 4 miy niggaz"
cube does not have the same versatility and subject matter that 2pac has...both have amazing rap voices (both different but they work) and both have their fair share of classics.
but Pac made more classics in less time, and had more lyrical content (he even made a song about his mama lol).
imo
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co-sign
id prolly agree altho many wont
but yeah pac was a better rapper than cube and pacs muzik is still better than cubes
altho i agree dre is the godfather of gangsta rap...many wont
but eazy cant get the godfather of gangsta rap when he wasnt as good as snoop, dre, or some even say cube and others
another overrated rapper...eazy e
no....Dre is
cuz Dre's beats made N.W.A.
Cube>Any West Coast rapper. (Yes, Including 2Pac)
Oh yeah.... Forgot to put, IMO
makaveli, all eyez on me, r u still down, me against the world, thug life vol 1 and 2pacalypse now are better than ANY ice cube album.
ironically, the one album released in Pac's lifetime that isn't up there with the others in terms of perfection was the one with the Ice Cube guest appearance, "Strictly 4 miy niggaz"
cube does not have the same versatility and subject matter that 2pac has...both have amazing rap voices (both different but they work) and both have their fair share of classics.
but Pac made more classics in less time, and had more lyrical content (he even made a song about his mama lol).
imo
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reason why pac was a better rapper is cuz cube sounds like hes tryin to hard and pac was hard...no homo
that was pacs role is too say fuck tha industry but cube is the industry
i mean lil jon, etc....
but cube can make dope muzik and has but not on pacs level and not on dre or snoops level
but cube>>>>>eazy (especially style wise)
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I agree that 2pac did some of the best hiphop-music of all time, but i never saw him as a "rapper" - more like an artist
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maybe he was all in 1 cuz he mos def was a rapper at time
regardless were talkin muzik here...who has made better muzik
pac>>>>cube
pac>>>>eazy
snoop>>eazy
snoop>>cube
pac at his best = snoop at his best
dr. dre at his best>>>>>snoop (considerin both might not write their own lyrics)
dr. dre>>>>cube
dr. dre>>>eazy
I agree that 2pac did some of the best hiphop-music of all time, but i never saw him as a "rapper" - more like an artist
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If it wasn't for Eazy bailing out Dre and making gangstarecords with him... Dre would probably have been unsuccesful as a member off Alonzo's group (World Class Wrecking Crew).
So hell no, Dre's not the godfather... Eazy is!!!
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Snoop. Mainly because his career has spanned an extra decade and within that time he's released more great songs. Mind you, if Eazy's life wasnt cut short and he continued to make great tracks it might have been him. Its just a case of one guy outliving the other really.
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EAZY E
i like snoop alot.
but Eazy is Eazy, so it makes this an Eazy vote.
Eric Wright gets my vote
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This is a hard one, Eazy E is an all time favourite of mine, but early Snoop was something else.
Eazy E is considered the godfather of rap for his role in bringing out NWA, not his talent on the mic.
makaveli, all eyez on me, r u still down, me against the world, thug life vol 1 and 2pacalypse now are better than ANY ice cube album.
ironically, the one album released in Pac's lifetime that isn't up there with the others in terms of perfection was the one with the Ice Cube guest appearance, "Strictly 4 miy niggaz"
That's a pretty bold statement, even if it's coming from a Pac groupie. Shit, forgot about the cube track. Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z is one of my favourite albums of Pacs.
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but Pac made more classics in less time, and had more lyrical content (he even made a song about his mama lol).
LMAO pac more lyrical than Cube? ur fuckin insane
so if ur rappin about ur moms ur pengame is lyrical? so I guess Master P must be one of the greatest wordsmiths of all time..
what r u gon tell us next? dat 2pac was a better rapper than Kool g rap or Chino Xl.
fuck outta here
he never fuckin freestyled in his life - even less off the dome.
2pac was an ARTIST - NOT a Rapper. he couldn't spit if his life depended on it. he was great conceptualy in the writing booth and on an emotional level, but ANY nigga could chew him up alive in a battlecypher -snoop, dpg, biggie anyone. he WASN't a "rapper"- he was a wonderful artist wit a capturing, deep emotional and fantastic voice - a poet (a hiphop version of MLK), but dat's were it stops
peace to the nigga pac - but adding him to 5-top of all time is just stupid and weird. he was never an MC (Master Of the Crowd)
LMAO FREESTYLING IS NOT A WAY TO DISPLAY LYRICAL CONTENT
who the fuck is gonna sit there and worry about Pac in a battle cipher??? Pac wasn't a battle rapper and we all know this...
and by the way, Pac did freestyle...go peep "if there's a cure"
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altho i agree dre is the godfather of gangsta rap...many wont
but eazy cant get the godfather of gangsta rap when he wasnt as good as snoop, dre, or some even say cube and others
another overrated rapper...eazy e
no....Dre is
cuz Dre's beats made N.W.A.
Cube>Any West Coast rapper. (Yes, Including 2Pac)
Oh yeah.... Forgot to put, IMO
makaveli, all eyez on me, r u still down, me against the world, thug life vol 1 and 2pacalypse now are better than ANY ice cube album.
ironically, the one album released in Pac's lifetime that isn't up there with the others in terms of perfection was the one with the Ice Cube guest appearance, "Strictly 4 miy niggaz"
cube does not have the same versatility and subject matter that 2pac has...both have amazing rap voices (both different but they work) and both have their fair share of classics.
but Pac made more classics in less time, and had more lyrical content (he even made a song about his mama lol).
imo
"AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted"
"Kill At Will EP"
"Death Certificate"
"The Predator"
"Lethal Injection"
"Bow Down"
"Straight Outta Compton"......ect
Danm! Hack I love 2Pac aswell, But I guess peep's had to be IN THE 90's to understand Cube's impact.
(Not including the works/acts he impacted, such as the Lench Mob,Yo-Yo, Kam's first solo, Mack 10, WC ect..)
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we can agree to disagree
but i'll take PAc over Cube
but it's like saying "ill take chris paul over deron williams" - you can't go wrong...
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we can agree to disagree
but i'll take PAc over Cube
but it's like saying "ill take chris paul over deron williams" - you can't go wrong...
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Its going off topic a bit like, but I'd take Cube over Pac just because I think his impact was felt more and he changed hip-hop in more ways, or at least he changed hip-hop for me, in more ways.
Cube had a streak of about 4 classic solo albums in a row at the start of his career, in my opinion 2Pac didn't (even though he had 4 or 5 great albums and one or two were classics).
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aite so it wasnt what he had done on the mic, what did he do for nwa that makes him such a dope rapper and a godfather of a certain type of muzik
above the law are more godfathers of gangsta rap than eazy e is....then you might say eazy made atl....he helped em did he help em wit the talent of bein able to rap that dope......dont think so
This is a hard one, Eazy E is an all time favourite of mine, but early Snoop was something else.
Eazy E is considered the godfather of rap for his role in bringing out NWA, not his talent on the mic.
makaveli, all eyez on me, r u still down, me against the world, thug life vol 1 and 2pacalypse now are better than ANY ice cube album.
ironically, the one album released in Pac's lifetime that isn't up there with the others in terms of perfection was the one with the Ice Cube guest appearance, "Strictly 4 miy niggaz"
That's a pretty bold statement, even if it's coming from a Pac groupie. Shit, forgot about the cube track. Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z is one of my favourite albums of Pacs.
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aite so it wasnt what he had done on the mic, what did he do for nwa that makes him such a dope rapper and a godfather of a certain type of muzik
above the law are more godfathers of gangsta rap than eazy e is....then you might say eazy made atl....he helped em did he help em wit the talent of bein able to rap that dope......dont think so
This is a hard one, Eazy E is an all time favourite of mine, but early Snoop was something else.
Eazy E is considered the godfather of rap for his role in bringing out NWA, not his talent on the mic.
makaveli, all eyez on me, r u still down, me against the world, thug life vol 1 and 2pacalypse now are better than ANY ice cube album.
ironically, the one album released in Pac's lifetime that isn't up there with the others in terms of perfection was the one with the Ice Cube guest appearance, "Strictly 4 miy niggaz"
That's a pretty bold statement, even if it's coming from a Pac groupie. Shit, forgot about the cube track. Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z is one of my favourite albums of Pacs.
Sorta goes like this. N.W.A, Above The Law, Ice T, Compton's Most Wanted, South Central Cartel. These were the main acts that got attention at the time 4 Westcoast (T and N.W.A especially).
Above The Law is sorta in the same realm as Dr. Dre when it comes to the G-Funk deal. Because they Labeled the new type of sound Dr. Dre had created. They called it G-Funk, Ghetto Funk, and Gurrilla Funk before anyone else because they were the only other Rap album at the time 2 feature the style.
CMW was mainstreamish, and SCC sorta remained notice but more of a Ren type of deal. Underground. Ice T well, he moved away from rap and went 2 Body Count.
but The term is normally reserved 2 N.W.A because there tracks had the most influence and launched them into megastar status. Nigga4life showed that Rap wasn't just limited 2 the Ghetto anymore, and was becoming a phenomenon. More over it become a threat 2 the government cause just like when they injected minorities with drugs, the moment it affected White People, they knew it would spread like a wild fire.
Now that's not saying ATL, CMW, or SCC didn't do shit. Obviously they helped kept the scene alive. Even N.W.A Shouted out 2 them on both there albums (CMW - CPT album, ATL -N4L).
but anyways. Eazy E helped make every Act on his label. U can't take him outta the equastion, that doesn't mean he gets the credit for everything, but he does deserve a small amount. Like with the All Eyez on Me album. Suge Knight deserved Credit for bailing out 2pac, and getting him on death row. Without that we wouldn't have All Eyez, or Makaveli.
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neighborhood snipaaa
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why is this even a question? somebody is turning over in his grave.
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Its going off topic a bit like, but I'd take Cube over Pac just because I think his impact was felt more and he changed hip-hop in more ways, or at least he changed hip-hop for me, in more ways.
Cube had a streak of about 4 classic solo albums in a row at the start of his career, in my opinion 2Pac didn't (even though he had 4 or 5 great albums and one or two were classics).
id say thug life - MATW - AEOM - Makaveli - R U STill Down - Still i rise were all classics
thats a string of 4 albums alive ,and 6 total :D
someone asked me about Strictly 4 my niggaz....in my opinion on that cd tracks 2 and 4 (the 2 skits) were unnecessary and tracks 9 and 10 were filler in my eyes. pac had plenty of better unreleased songs that he could've used instead of "guess whos back"
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eazy didnt write his own lyrics?
He never wrote his lyrics, The D.O.C. wrote all of his lyrics in the N.W.A. days and after that i think BG Knocc Out and Dre'sta wrote for him.
that may not not be true. check the credits on both it's on and str.8 off tha streetz. the songs that he didn't write he credited to who wrote it. threat wrote both 'sorry louie' and 'my baby's momma' eazy wasn't sayin anything too complex for him not t o write his own but d.o.c and ice did write his early shit. eazy is the real king of the west coast... without him the n.w.a family tree would be as big as it is.
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Pretty much everyone of N.W.A Is considered The God Father of Gangsta Rap (School D is considered The Father and creator) Ice T is considered another great but N.W.A is what revolutionize everything.
Only reason we don't call The other members God Father all the time is because they've expanded into something greater (normally).
Dr. Dre - G-Funk, Death Row, Eminem Founder, Aftermath, The Producer
Ice Cube - The Fuck the system, no holds bar Don Mega. Cube The one who openly said Fuck Amerikkka, highlighted hypocrisy and could make a album that didn't pander 2 Gangsta shit even though its 1 of the more hardcore shit around (death Certificate). He mostly became known now as the member who turned Rapper/Actor.
MC Ren - The Villain, Underground member of N.W.A.
DJ Yella - Well He only did 1 album, but mostly was a producer. Left the industry and pretty much Directed Porn. He barely retains the title cause he was a active member of N.W.A
Eazy E - This is his only title cause that's all he did. He didn't do any Innovated stuff with production, all he did was open ruthless, put together N.W.A, and created acts like Bone Thugs. Carrier Wise, his rapping only stuck out do to his vocals, his production on later albums was derived of the G-Funk Dr. Dre made popular, Only reason he didn't fade out into the underground like ren was because of his Feud with Dre and Death Row. Death Row acourse at the time had become the number 1 label at the time do to its huge innovated releases.
So its not like the title was really put on E cause he is dead. Its cause He and the other members of N.W.A helped rap Progress at the time in there own way.
Now if it came to Skill on the mic. I'm going with Snoop only when he does his G-Funk flow. Cause when he raps normally, he's just pedestrian. Only when he can flow with a slow groove does it empathize his style. Eazy On the other hand wins when it comes 2 the Comedic elements that he retain in all of his albums.
he didn't produce ? he produced find em fuck em and flee on niggaz4life and other songs that he didn't take credit for he cofirmed it in an old rap pages an unreleased last interview where he constantly kept coughing. somebody pull it up. i think it's a feb. 98 mag. and you'll will also see what a dynasty eazy built on the west coast. eazy is the only rapper that has been in the white house. without him the west wouldn't been shit. someone prove me wrong.
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Eazy didn't make beats. I remember he claimed he made one of the beats but on the "Efil4Zaggin" DVD you can see Dre makin' the beat in the studio.
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Eazy didn't make beats. I remember he claimed he made one of the beats but on the "Efil4Zaggin" DVD you can see Dre makin' the beat in the studio.
in the interview eazy played the chick some beats he did. pull up feb. 98 rap pages please. i really think someone need to do a thread just for eazy.
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Pretty much everyone of N.W.A Is considered The God Father of Gangsta Rap (School D is considered The Father and creator) Ice T is considered another great but N.W.A is what revolutionize everything.
Only reason we don't call The other members God Father all the time is because they've expanded into something greater (normally).
Dr. Dre - G-Funk, Death Row, Eminem Founder, Aftermath, The Producer
Ice Cube - The Fuck the system, no holds bar Don Mega. Cube The one who openly said Fuck Amerikkka, highlighted hypocrisy and could make a album that didn't pander 2 Gangsta shit even though its 1 of the more hardcore shit around (death Certificate). He mostly became known now as the member who turned Rapper/Actor.
MC Ren - The Villain, Underground member of N.W.A.
DJ Yella - Well He only did 1 album, but mostly was a producer. Left the industry and pretty much Directed Porn. He barely retains the title cause he was a active member of N.W.A
Eazy E - This is his only title cause that's all he did. He didn't do any Innovated stuff with production, all he did was open ruthless, put together N.W.A, and created acts like Bone Thugs. Carrier Wise, his rapping only stuck out do to his vocals, his production on later albums was derived of the G-Funk Dr. Dre made popular, Only reason he didn't fade out into the underground like ren was because of his Feud with Dre and Death Row. Death Row acourse at the time had become the number 1 label at the time do to its huge innovated releases.
So its not like the title was really put on E cause he is dead. Its cause He and the other members of N.W.A helped rap Progress at the time in there own way.
Now if it came to Skill on the mic. I'm going with Snoop only when he does his G-Funk flow. Cause when he raps normally, he's just pedestrian. Only when he can flow with a slow groove does it empathize his style. Eazy On the other hand wins when it comes 2 the Comedic elements that he retain in all of his albums.
he didn't produce ? he produced find em fuck em and flee on niggaz4life and other songs that he didn't take credit for he cofirmed it in an old rap pages an unreleased last interview where he constantly kept coughing. somebody pull it up. i think it's a feb. 98 mag. and you'll will also see what a dynasty eazy built on the west coast. eazy is the only rapper that has been in the white house. without him the west wouldn't been shit. someone prove me wrong.
I was just thinking about Eazy E going to the White House. That's fucking bullshit. Seriously, only reason the President would see him is because the music was considered ignorant and was destroying blacks (in terms of Image, and as a people). Ice Cube Talked about the Issues 3 straight albums, got persecuted by goverment because he wasn't laying down like a house nigga. I'm not saying the meeting is dope, and it did help solidified Eazy E as a huge Entity on the West Coast, but anyone can clearly see, the fuck did it cause everyone in government considered it a hotbutton issue at the time.
Eazy E helped Dre on production, but it was mainly Yella and Dre.
Again on the White House issue, Every politician hated N.W.A and Eazy cause they believed there music promoting Gangsterdom, selfdestruction,racism and Cop killing. So why the fuck would he want 2 meet with him??? Guy didn't give a damn, he saw a good publicity stunt. That was all. get invite 2 teh white house? I'd out right say Fuck That. Cause that motherfucker along with everyone else with the government was the reason why we've been getting fucked in the ass.
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Pretty much everyone of N.W.A Is considered The God Father of Gangsta Rap (School D is considered The Father and creator) Ice T is considered another great but N.W.A is what revolutionize everything.
Only reason we don't call The other members God Father all the time is because they've expanded into something greater (normally).
Dr. Dre - G-Funk, Death Row, Eminem Founder, Aftermath, The Producer
Ice Cube - The Fuck the system, no holds bar Don Mega. Cube The one who openly said Fuck Amerikkka, highlighted hypocrisy and could make a album that didn't pander 2 Gangsta shit even though its 1 of the more hardcore shit around (death Certificate). He mostly became known now as the member who turned Rapper/Actor.
MC Ren - The Villain, Underground member of N.W.A.
DJ Yella - Well He only did 1 album, but mostly was a producer. Left the industry and pretty much Directed Porn. He barely retains the title cause he was a active member of N.W.A
Eazy E - This is his only title cause that's all he did. He didn't do any Innovated stuff with production, all he did was open ruthless, put together N.W.A, and created acts like Bone Thugs. Carrier Wise, his rapping only stuck out do to his vocals, his production on later albums was derived of the G-Funk Dr. Dre made popular, Only reason he didn't fade out into the underground like ren was because of his Feud with Dre and Death Row. Death Row acourse at the time had become the number 1 label at the time do to its huge innovated releases.
So its not like the title was really put on E cause he is dead. Its cause He and the other members of N.W.A helped rap Progress at the time in there own way.
Now if it came to Skill on the mic. I'm going with Snoop only when he does his G-Funk flow. Cause when he raps normally, he's just pedestrian. Only when he can flow with a slow groove does it empathize his style. Eazy On the other hand wins when it comes 2 the Comedic elements that he retain in all of his albums.
he didn't produce ? he produced find em fuck em and flee on niggaz4life and other songs that he didn't take credit for he cofirmed it in an old rap pages an unreleased last interview where he constantly kept coughing. somebody pull it up. i think it's a feb. 98 mag. and you'll will also see what a dynasty eazy built on the west coast. eazy is the only rapper that has been in the white house. without him the west wouldn't been shit. someone prove me wrong.
I was just thinking about Eazy E going to the White House. That's fucking bullshit. Seriously, only reason the President would see him is because the music was considered ignorant and was destroying blacks (in terms of Image, and as a people). Ice Cube Talked about the Issues 3 straight albums, got persecuted by goverment because he wasn't laying down like a house nigga. I'm not saying the meeting is dope, and it did help solidified Eazy E as a huge Entity on the West Coast, but anyone can clearly see, the fuck did it cause everyone in government considered it a hotbutton issue at the time.
Eazy E helped Dre on production, but it was mainly Yella and Dre.
Again on the White House issue, Every politician hated N.W.A and Eazy cause they believed there music promoting Gangsterdom, selfdestruction,racism and Cop killing. So why the fuck would he want 2 meet with him??? Guy didn't give a damn, he saw a good publicity stunt. That was all. get invite 2 teh white house? I'd out right say Fuck That. Cause that motherfucker along with everyone else with the government was the reason why we've been getting fucked in the ass.
The reason he got the invite was because he donated some money to a charitable organization...Make A Wish ??? I believe this was a dinner with the President speaking. The free promo he got from this tale was priceless. To be honest I don't even think the President knew who he was or if he was there. And yes this was a publicity stunt.
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king t>>>>>eazy e
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Pretty much everyone of N.W.A Is considered The God Father of Gangsta Rap (School D is considered The Father and creator) Ice T is considered another great but N.W.A is what revolutionize everything.
Only reason we don't call The other members God Father all the time is because they've expanded into something greater (normally).
Dr. Dre - G-Funk, Death Row, Eminem Founder, Aftermath, The Producer
Ice Cube - The Fuck the system, no holds bar Don Mega. Cube The one who openly said Fuck Amerikkka, highlighted hypocrisy and could make a album that didn't pander 2 Gangsta shit even though its 1 of the more hardcore shit around (death Certificate). He mostly became known now as the member who turned Rapper/Actor.
MC Ren - The Villain, Underground member of N.W.A.
DJ Yella - Well He only did 1 album, but mostly was a producer. Left the industry and pretty much Directed Porn. He barely retains the title cause he was a active member of N.W.A
Eazy E - This is his only title cause that's all he did. He didn't do any Innovated stuff with production, all he did was open ruthless, put together N.W.A, and created acts like Bone Thugs. Carrier Wise, his rapping only stuck out do to his vocals, his production on later albums was derived of the G-Funk Dr. Dre made popular, Only reason he didn't fade out into the underground like ren was because of his Feud with Dre and Death Row. Death Row acourse at the time had become the number 1 label at the time do to its huge innovated releases.
So its not like the title was really put on E cause he is dead. Its cause He and the other members of N.W.A helped rap Progress at the time in there own way.
Now if it came to Skill on the mic. I'm going with Snoop only when he does his G-Funk flow. Cause when he raps normally, he's just pedestrian. Only when he can flow with a slow groove does it empathize his style. Eazy On the other hand wins when it comes 2 the Comedic elements that he retain in all of his albums.
he didn't produce ? he produced find em fuck em and flee on niggaz4life and other songs that he didn't take credit for he cofirmed it in an old rap pages an unreleased last interview where he constantly kept coughing. somebody pull it up. i think it's a feb. 98 mag. and you'll will also see what a dynasty eazy built on the west coast. eazy is the only rapper that has been in the white house. without him the west wouldn't been shit. someone prove me wrong.
I was just thinking about Eazy E going to the White House. That's fucking bullshit. Seriously, only reason the President would see him is because the music was considered ignorant and was destroying blacks (in terms of Image, and as a people). Ice Cube Talked about the Issues 3 straight albums, got persecuted by goverment because he wasn't laying down like a house nigga. I'm not saying the meeting is dope, and it did help solidified Eazy E as a huge Entity on the West Coast, but anyone can clearly see, the fuck did it cause everyone in government considered it a hotbutton issue at the time.
Eazy E helped Dre on production, but it was mainly Yella and Dre.
Again on the White House issue, Every politician hated N.W.A and Eazy cause they believed there music promoting Gangsterdom, selfdestruction,racism and Cop killing. So why the fuck would he want 2 meet with him??? Guy didn't give a damn, he saw a good publicity stunt. That was all. get invite 2 teh white house? I'd out right say Fuck That. Cause that motherfucker along with everyone else with the government was the reason why we've been getting fucked in the ass.
The reason he got the invite was because he donated some money to a charitable organization...Make A Wish ??? I believe this was a dinner with the President speaking. The free promo he got from this tale was priceless. To be honest I don't even think the President knew who he was or if he was there. And yes this was a publicity stunt.
Only thing I can give props 2 on that, is He IS the only 1. But in the end, it depends how u look at it. Some see as sell out, others a landmark.
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how did the gov't meetin come about?
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I rank 'em like this
1. Mac Dre
2. Snoop - he's had a chance to do more
3. Eazy-E - Started it all
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mac dre what? as the godfather of gangsta rap? lol
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Nah, that title belongs to Ice Cube or Eazy-E. Just compared to them other two west coast legends, I'd rank Mac Dre above them
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2pac, snoop, cube and eazy are all better than mac dre was
just common knowledge
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2pac, snoop, cube and eazy are all better than mac dre was
just common knowledge
Ya Tupac and Cube
but good luck convincing anyone that Snoop and Eazy-E are better than Mac Dre. Mainstream much? Both Snoop Dogg and Eazy-E have been known to have ghost writers throughout their careers. Snoop Dogg's catalog doesn't compare to Mac Dre's, I'm gonna let you act like you know but you gotta go back to 93 to find Snoop's peak. All his other albums...........hit or miss
An Eazy-E/Mac Dre collab woulda been hella tight though
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it dont matter if mac dre wrote for kool g rap, krs one or rakim
mac dre's best muzik doesnt touch snoop at his absolute rawest level of rappin even wit snoop not writin his own lyrics
im not even much of a eazy fan but mac dre better than eazy even might be pushin it?
mac dre wasnt a real crazy lyrical rapper on the to where he was different or to be even on snoops level
mac dre is overrated jus like snoop put out alotta wack muzik and albums but dont test snoops dopeness cuz he can drop dope muzik and it will be better than mac dre and eazy e's and many others
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but good luck convincing anyone that Snoop and Eazy-E are better than Mac Dre
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i know every1 is entitled to their own opinions, but seriously man..
did ur mother drop u on the floor when u were an infant or somethin? just wonderin
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it dont matter if mac dre wrote for kool g rap, krs one or rakim
mac dre's best muzik doesnt touch snoop at his absolute rawest level of rappin even wit snoop not writin his own lyrics
im not even much of a eazy fan but mac dre better than eazy even might be pushin it?
mac dre wasnt a real crazy lyrical rapper on the to where he was different or to be even on snoops level
mac dre is overrated jus like snoop put out alotta wack muzik and albums but dont test snoops dopeness cuz he can drop dope muzik and it will be better than mac dre and eazy e's and many others
Nope, I gotta shake my head at that. It's artistic integrity, you don't compare no artist who don't write his own music to an artist who does and when you do the artist who's writing the music is always more valuable. Ya obviously Snoop is the bigger artist and were not gonna compare Al Boo Boo to Doggystyle, but Snoop is in image, he's a great character in hip-hop. He's one of the most marketable artist in hip-hop of all-time. But most of Snoop Dogg's music isn't written by him. Mac Dre has way more better quality material than Snoop, Snoop's catalog has been inconsistent. You wanna say who has the more classic music (as in "Gin & Juice" is more of a revered and notable classic in hip-hop culture than "California Livin'"), it's Snoop but if you questioning who's the greater artist it's obviously the one who's artistically responsible for his own lyrics.
Bottom line, Snoop don't write most of his own music and his catalog has been inconsistent
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nah check it out tho i dont like all of snoops muzik but his muzik is timeless when he makes dope muzik
has he always made dope muzik..........no
has he always written his own muzik....no
but snoops best muzik vs mac dre's best?
i mean WHATS MY NAME is prolly better than mac dre's life and some would say thats not even snoops best but Imo thats one of snoops best
see you say shake your head at that....let me ask you
where are you from?
if your from cali what area?
it dont matter if mac dre wrote for kool g rap, krs one or rakim
mac dre's best muzik doesnt touch snoop at his absolute rawest level of rappin even wit snoop not writin his own lyrics
im not even much of a eazy fan but mac dre better than eazy even might be pushin it?
mac dre wasnt a real crazy lyrical rapper on the to where he was different or to be even on snoops level
mac dre is overrated jus like snoop put out alotta wack muzik and albums but dont test snoops dopeness cuz he can drop dope muzik and it will be better than mac dre and eazy e's and many others
Nope, I gotta shake my head at that. It's artistic integrity, you don't compare no artist who don't write his own music to an artist who does and when you do the artist who's writing the music is always more valuable. Ya obviously Snoop is the bigger artist and were not gonna compare Al Boo Boo to Doggystyle, but Snoop is in image, he's a great character in hip-hop. He's one of the most marketable artist in hip-hop of all-time. But most of Snoop Dogg's music isn't written by him. Mac Dre has way more better quality material than Snoop, Snoop's catalog has been inconsistent. You wanna say who has the more classic music (as in "Gin & Juice" is more of a revered and notable classic in hip-hop culture than "California Livin'"), it's Snoop but if you questioning who's the greater artist it's obviously the one who's artistically responsible for his own lyrics.
Bottom line, Snoop don't write most of his own music and his catalog has been inconsistent
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it dont matter if mac dre wrote for kool g rap, krs one or rakim
mac dre's best muzik doesnt touch snoop at his absolute rawest level of rappin even wit snoop not writin his own lyrics
im not even much of a eazy fan but mac dre better than eazy even might be pushin it?
mac dre wasnt a real crazy lyrical rapper on the to where he was different or to be even on snoops level
mac dre is overrated jus like snoop put out alotta wack muzik and albums but dont test snoops dopeness cuz he can drop dope muzik and it will be better than mac dre and eazy e's and many others
Nope, I gotta shake my head at that. It's artistic integrity, you don't compare no artist who don't write his own music to an artist who does and when you do the artist who's writing the music is always more valuable. Ya obviously Snoop is the bigger artist and were not gonna compare Al Boo Boo to Doggystyle, but Snoop is in image, he's a great character in hip-hop. He's one of the most marketable artist in hip-hop of all-time. But most of Snoop Dogg's music isn't written by him. Mac Dre has way more better quality material than Snoop, Snoop's catalog has been inconsistent. You wanna say who has the more classic music (as in "Gin & Juice" is more of a revered and notable classic in hip-hop culture than "California Livin'"), it's Snoop but if you questioning who's the greater artist it's obviously the one who's artistically responsible for his own lyrics.
Bottom line, Snoop don't write most of his own music and his catalog has been inconsistent
i dont like to compare rappers wit each other stylisticialy (cuz i dont think dat is somethin u should do), but i had to speak on this one..
Snoop ALWAYS wrote his own material, always - until like 1 album ago. the thing wit "snoopy neva wrote his own lyrcis" seems to b a fad nowadays. it's incorrect - he wasn't writing his rhymes for "Ego Trippin'" - ONE of his albums (and he DID write some of the songs on there). as a matter of fact, snoop used to write for other artists - an album called "The Chronic", one of the biggest hiphoprecords of all time (if not the BIGGEST) were penned by Snoop, RBX, Rage and The D.o.c.
Snoop's got a unique voice (in the positive way), better flow, and performs 100times beter than what Mac Dre ever did on any song. Hands down
Snoop is one of the best offthedome-freeylers of all time (co-signed by D.O. muddafuccin C.)
Snoop's worst album "Da Game Is To Be Sold, Not To Be TOld" eats up every sog Mac Dre ever did
Mac Dre's lyrics can b really funny sometimes, but his performances were always the worst on all of the songs he performed on (performance-wise) - never outshined anybody (the worst in Cutthoat Committee). His verses is a bunch of adlibs stacked on top of each other, and he usually recorded by punchin in on his verse alot (which is taboo in hiphop).
He actually did start off pretty good wit his persona as a performer in the early 90's - but in the end of his career, he ended up soundin like Mr Mackey from South Park..
If anythin, Mac Dre's rhymes are savin him some face - but you c, the lyrical-tip isn't what builds the whole artist.
to sum it up - Mac Dre was kinda a boring and untalented rapper (read again - rapper not writer) to listen to - no candy for the ears at all
I really really really like Mac Dre, i got most of his catalogue - and im always keepin an ear to what Thizz Nation is doin - but to say dat Mac Dre is a better artist than Eazy or Snoop, proves dat ur musictaste-buds is striclty limited to the Bay Area-scene - which is really depressing. Mac Dre is a small small breadcrumb on a big big big table of good hiphop-music
Bottomline: everybody's entitled to their own opinions, but u are surely (and hopefully) alone on these "opinions"
some icing on the cake: the majority of the humanrace likes Snoop and Eazy more, and i guess that alone proves to us obviously who he is "better"
Rip Eazy-e
rip mac dre
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it dont matter if mac dre wrote for kool g rap, krs one or rakim
mac dre's best muzik doesnt touch snoop at his absolute rawest level of rappin even wit snoop not writin his own lyrics
im not even much of a eazy fan but mac dre better than eazy even might be pushin it?
mac dre wasnt a real crazy lyrical rapper on the to where he was different or to be even on snoops level
mac dre is overrated jus like snoop put out alotta wack muzik and albums but dont test snoops dopeness cuz he can drop dope muzik and it will be better than mac dre and eazy e's and many others
Nope, I gotta shake my head at that. It's artistic integrity, you don't compare no artist who don't write his own music to an artist who does and when you do the artist who's writing the music is always more valuable. Ya obviously Snoop is the bigger artist and were not gonna compare Al Boo Boo to Doggystyle, but Snoop is in image, he's a great character in hip-hop. He's one of the most marketable artist in hip-hop of all-time. But most of Snoop Dogg's music isn't written by him. Mac Dre has way more better quality material than Snoop, Snoop's catalog has been inconsistent. You wanna say who has the more classic music (as in "Gin & Juice" is more of a revered and notable classic in hip-hop culture than "California Livin'"), it's Snoop but if you questioning who's the greater artist it's obviously the one who's artistically responsible for his own lyrics.
Bottom line, Snoop don't write most of his own music and his catalog has been inconsistent
i dont like to compare rappers wit each other stylisticialy (cuz i dont think dat is somethin u should do), but i had to speak on this one..
Snoop ALWAYS wrote his own material, always - until like 1 album ago. the thing wit "snoopy neva wrote his own lyrcis" seems to b a fad nowadays. it's incorrect - he wasn't writing his rhymes for "Ego Trippin'" - ONE of his albums (and he DID write some of the songs on there). as a matter of fact, snoop used to write for other artists - an album called "The Chronic", one of the biggest hiphoprecords of all time (if not the BIGGEST) were penned by Snoop, RBX, Rage and The D.o.c.
Snoop's got a unique voice (in the positive way), better flow, and performs 100times beter than what Mac Dre ever did on any song. Hands down
Snoop is one of the best offthedome-freeylers of all time (co-signed by D.O. muddafuccin C.)
Snoop's worst album "Da Game Is To Be Sold, Not To Be TOld" eats up every sog Mac Dre ever did
Mac Dre's lyrics can b really funny sometimes, but his performances were always the worst on all of the songs he performed on (performance-wise) - never outshined anybody (the worst in Cutthoat Committee). His verses is a bunch of adlibs stacked on top of each other, and he usually recorded by punchin in on his verse alot (which is taboo in hiphop).
He actually did start off pretty good wit his persona as a performer in the early 90's - but in the end of his career, he ended up soundin like Mr Mackey from South Park..
If anythin, Mac Dre's rhymes are savin him some face - but you c, the lyrical-tip isn't what builds the whole artist.
to sum it up - Mac Dre was kinda a boring and untalented rapper (read again - rapper not writer) to listen to - no candy for the ears at all
I really really really like Mac Dre, i got most of his catalogue - and im always keepin an ear to what Thizz Nation is doin - but to say dat Mac Dre is a better artist than Eazy or Snoop, proves dat ur musictaste-buds is striclty limited to the Bay Area-scene - which is really depressing. Mac Dre is a small small breadcrumb on a big big big table of good hiphop-music
Bottomline: everybody's entitled to their own opinions, but u are surely (and hopefully) alone on these "opinions"
some icing on the cake: the majority of the humanrace likes Snoop and Eazy more, and i guess that alone proves to us obviously who he is "better"
Rip Eazy-e
rip mac dre
You clearly don't know one thing about what your talking about.
Leaving trailing evidence of your stupidity in the fact that you compare an up-in-coming underground rapper to two established mainstream artist.
WTF are you talking about? Clearly someone came to this conversation one toke over the line, saying Mac Dre was a boring rapper? I'm calling your bluff, you haven't heard shit. Mac Dre's popularity was reaching it's highest at the point of his death in 2004 he released two albums on the same day before Nelly did and a third album before his death in November before the election. Name some songs, cause your not making a good case with your argument. You clearly weren't listening to Mac Dre caSaying Mac Dre was the worst in the Cutthroat Committee, get outta here, your opinions no longer valid on the subject at hand. My musical taste transcends all genres, most of the artist I listen to are not from the Bay Area.
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LMAO, what am i bluffin? i was bumpin Mac dre when ur where swimming around in ur dad's nutsack..
one could agree, dat except for the reply i did earlier, there ISN'T a better summary on Mac Dre the artist for u.
what i wrote is what i wrote - Mac dre was a boring rapper, who was occasionaly dope wit his pengame - but just terribly awful in the studiobooth - nothin capturing, nothin "special" - no nothin of dat magnitude, comparin to a, say Snoop or Eazy. and notice, I was always comparin Mac Dre wit those artists, nothin else - BUT if i would to speak on Mac Dre as an artist alone, without comparin him wit those artists, i'd still say he's kinda boring, yeah
a boring rapper who did songs without mixing and mastering, and who pressed dat shit up every 3 months on a plastic cd, and sold it though rapbay
a boring rapper who at one time - rapped over an other artists instrumental and released it as a "single"
Mac Dre's popularity was reaching it's highest at the point of his death in 2004 he released two albums on the same day before Nelly did and a third album before his death in November before the election
u make it sound like, Mac Dre's "fanbase" is spread around the globe like dat of a Backstreet Boy- bringin in Nelly's name. Mac Dre's fanbase resides in Bay Area, and have been residin in Bay Area since his untimely death back in 04 (more or less). the only "success" Thizz had since his passing, was Mistah Fab (and he blew after he left)
Mac Dre's popularity was reaching it's highest at the point of his death
well, du'h!!!
what im sayin is, go head and bump Mac Dre (i still do occasionaly) - im sure most of us liked some of his songs. But to compare him in a reckless and unintelligent way by bringin in names like Eazy E and Snoop like they never existed on the map, it's just... "dumb", like Mac Dre himself woud say..
but still dat is ur opinion.. but what really cracked me up, was the quote rite here
but good luck convincing anyone that Snoop and Eazy-E are better than Mac Dre dat was really "stupid", yadada?
and i am certain dat u are xtremely limited in musical taste- what i can do for u however - is provide u wit a couple of youtube-links to new music, which could be a good start for u in realizin dat Mac Dre is not and never was the "Adam" of hiphop-music
Leaving trailing evidence of your stupidity in the fact that you compare an up-in-coming underground rapper to two established mainstream artist
uhhh... didn't u start it? ::) *idiot*
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as a emcee and artist i go with Snoop
but eazy paved the way for cats like snoop
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yeah i agree wit fabtoxicp on this 1
theres no way mac dre at his best is better or was better than snoop
again snoop might not write his own muzik but whether he does or not hes better than mac dre and many others
i mean im not even the biggest fans of e-40 or richie rich but they are better than mac dre as many are
but yeah he was a borin rapper jus like mistah fab is
thats crazy tho IMO that someone would consider mac dre better than snoop or eazy
and thats part of the reason why i was askin where your from? (if the westcoast where on the west)
im askin you mac dre fan
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First of all Mac Dre is the greater artist than both Snoop Dogg an Eazy-E, and it's very easy and safe argument to say Snoop or Eazy is greater than Mac Dre artistically but Mac Dre had his own style and was one of the instrumental originators in the hyphy movement. His music can't be compared to other Bay Area artist, like I said he has his own style and he's nothing like E-40. Boring? 'Til the day he died he was always recording music with filled with the freshest lines, are you dumb? Pound for Pound Mac Dre is one of the greatest Pimp Rappers of all-time. Lyrically he shined the most when collabing with Andre Nickatina.
You people clearly aren't qualified to make a top 10. First of all not a single rapper we mentioned so far is placing anywhere in the top 10. I'd say their spot fits in somewhere between 11-25. The only way you can say an artist like Snoop (who's been known be nothing more than the marketable mouthpiece for lyrics he didn't write) is better than Mac Dre is to argue that Snoop has the better catalog, and you can't do it. Snoop hasn't released a classic since his debut (which is one of the greatest pieces of hip-hop ever). However this is a no-brainer, no mathematics required. If this was a better argument I'd compare the discographies side-by-side but there's no need to do that, I'm just going to assume that you know Mac Dre's catalog was very consistent. His last year along was 3 very hot albums, check them out. Classics in the eyes of his fans, I wouldn't call them classics though because they didn't make a big enough impact on hip-hop, ala Doggystyle.
See if you are talking hip-hop artists who use ghost writers, like Eazy-E, Dr. Dre, and Snoop your can't compare him artistically to a Tupac Shakur, Rakim, or Mac Dre you have to compare their work musically. That lack of artistic integrity and artistic control won't help them when discussing them in terms among the greats but you can talk about the quality of their music.
In my opinion Eazy-E has the more solid catalog than Snoop. Besides Snoop's first album, The Last Meal and the last 3 albums Snoop's discography is GARBAGE!
Snoop Dogg may be the GOAT performer in hip-hop, that comes with experience. He's in the game because his image itself is marketable, you can put him on a t-shirt cause he's recognizable. Mac Dre in comparison is more regionally enjoyed and he has a cult like following. His image is recognizable to a smaller amount of hip-hop fans. He never reached mainstream success.
Most of you haven't heard Mac Dre's material, so I'm going to treat it like that and maybe try to introduce you to a piece of his catalog you'd like.
"Bi-Polar"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfheCRRZE8A
He had many styles, you people like to blaze?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Szl_JyCUQ&feature=related
"Not My Job"
And no your not talking to a closed-head outta the Bay who's only heard Mac Dre, Mac Mall, J-Diggs, and E-40. My musical taste, expands every musical genre and I'm not from the Bay. ::)
In a credible top 25 (which accounts for all the above), Mac Dre ranks higher than both and SNoop ranks higher than Eazy-E cause he had the chance to do more.
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yeah next to noone will agree with you and i wont but they will use this against you...lol
your name doesnt help your case at all
but to say or put rakim, mac dre, and and 2pac in the same category is beyond insanity but its ok to be insane problem is you dont want to admit it that you are ...who does....lol
but not in 1 second of this planet universal time will anyone agree with you that mac dre was better than snoop better yet eazy e
i rarely listen to e-40's muzik but e-40 (as most would say) gave mac dre a chance wit the movement he made not the movement mac dre made
the movement mac dre made was a dance and a muzik type but e-40 is a lyricist mac dre isnt
sides when you said this
Besides Snoop's first album, The Last Meal and the last 3 albums Snoop's discography is GARBAGE!
you lost...lol
tha last meal>>>mac dre's life...lol
especially wit tha last meal which is considered a classic let alone the rest of his albums (yeah the last 3 have been wack but that doesnt make mac dre a better rapper)
mac dre put out millions of cd's? does that mean hes a better rapper? no he made the same type of muzik over and over again and now he has everyone in the bay area copyin him and ridin his name except for e-40, and a few others
but hey think what you want but keep dreamin about mac dre bein anywhere near any of these rappers
krs one
rakim
snoop
kool g rap
the list goes on
i mean you keep talkin about top 25 this n that....you might make some cry with your top list by the way your talkin cuz all it will consist of is mac dre, mac mall, and that regions sound
i see you over there reppin the bay area but fact is bay area doesnt have the best rappers ever and dont make dope muzik, anymore if they ever did
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yeah next to noone will agree with you and i wont but they will use this against you...lol
your name doesnt help your case at all
but to say or put rakim, mac dre, and and 2pac in the same category is beyond insanity but its ok to be insane problem is you dont want to admit it that you are ...who does....lol
but not in 1 second of this planet universal time will anyone agree with you that mac dre was better than snoop better yet eazy e
i rarely listen to e-40's muzik but e-40 (as most would say) gave mac dre a chance wit the movement he made not the movement mac dre made
the movement mac dre made was a dance and a muzik type but e-40 is a lyricist mac dre isnt
sides when you said this
Besides Snoop's first album, The Last Meal and the last 3 albums Snoop's discography is GARBAGE!
you lost...lol
tha last meal>>>mac dre's life...lol
especially wit tha last meal which is considered a classic let alone the rest of his albums (yeah the last 3 have been wack but that doesnt make mac dre a better rapper)
mac dre put out millions of cd's? does that mean hes a better rapper? no he made the same type of muzik over and over again and now he has everyone in the bay area copyin him and ridin his name except for e-40, and a few others
but hey think what you want but keep dreamin about mac dre bein anywhere near any of these rappers
krs one
rakim
snoop
kool g rap
the list goes on
i mean you keep talkin about top 25 this n that....you might make some cry with your top list by the way your talkin cuz all it will consist of is mac dre, mac mall, and that regions sound
i see you over there reppin the bay area but fact is bay area doesnt have the best rappers ever and dont make dope muzik, anymore if they ever did
lol Mac Dre isn't in Tupac's/Rakim's category.
We already said MD, Snoop, and Eazy ain't no top 10.
Exactly, Mac Dre and E-40's styles are not the same.
Lmao@ a DECENT album being better than Mac Dre's life when Mac Dre's catalog is leagues and bounds ahead of Snoop's. Funny, keep your mainstream opinion in the bubblegum section. In 10 years you'll be kicking the mainstream opinion saying Lil Wayne is a legend
If you accuse me of being a backpacker I'm tracking IP's
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nah never said wayne is dope and never will end of discussion...
good lookin on the internet gang bangin...lol
if others think mac dre is and ever will be better than 2pac, snoop, eazy and anyone else on that caliber...money will be donated to them not to haiti...lol
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dre dog would and prolly has murdered mac dre on the mic
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nah never said wayne is dope and never will end of discussion...
good lookin on the internet gang bangin...lol
if others think mac dre is and ever will be better than 2pac, snoop, eazy and anyone else on that caliber...money will be donated to them not to haiti...lol
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dre dog would and prolly has murdered mac dre on the mic
I'm obviously not capable or willing to track an IP, just playin.
2Pac>Mac Dre>Snoop>Eazy-E
synchronize your mind. watch with your body mind and soul
listen to the whole catalog
I listen to the complete catalogs of artist I don't really enjoy just cause they might got some gems in there and I needa be up on there music. My top 10 is more credible than yours anyday and more justifiable. I bet you got Eminem in your top 10 to don't you?
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tha gangsta bangin is cool...i guess if thats what you do
see thats why you lost no he isnt in my top 10
be careful in what judge...only im good at that...lol (obviously i was in this case anyway)
its all good tho id like to see what others say about your thoughts on eazy, mac dre, and snoop and even pac i guess
nah never said wayne is dope and never will end of discussion...
good lookin on the internet gang bangin...lol
if others think mac dre is and ever will be better than 2pac, snoop, eazy and anyone else on that caliber...money will be donated to them not to haiti...lol
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dre dog would and prolly has murdered mac dre on the mic
I'm obviously not capable or willing to track an IP, just playin.
2Pac>Mac Dre>Snoop>Eazy-E
synchronize your mind. watch with your body mind and soul
listen to the whole catalog
I listen to the complete catalogs of artist I don't really enjoy just cause they might got some gems in there and I needa be up on there music. My top 10 is more credible than yours anyday and more justifiable. I bet you got Eminem in your top 10 to don't you?
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Tupac - #1 of all-time
Eminem - #11, could reach top 10 if his next album is up to expectations. He's been on fire lately lyrically so that shouldn't be a problem. Should be better than the last Relapse
Mac Dre>Snoop in every way shape and form, you refuse to believe this cause your probably grew up with Snoop in the limelight with his image all. It's okay, it's not your fault when you have promoted Lil Wayne to Bob Marley status in 10 years because it's the mainstream opinion after an artist maintains a career without falling off for a certain longevity. You clearly never heard Mac Dre's discography. CLEARLY! Mac Dre's discography sh!ts on Snoop's. Mac Dre has a better style on and off the mic. Snoop is a great character off the mic, like I said he's marketable and a house hold name deep in the suburbs and all over America. Snoop is a bit corny at times, very rarely does he come off as fresh and he has been known to jock Mac Dre's style off the mic at times. Undeniably recognizable.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzKrIZWYDJU
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N.W.A. was three people. Dr. Dre, Eazy-E, and Ice Cube. And without one, the other two might not have been what they were. Yes, they all went on to success to different degrees without each other but if those first records didn't have Cube's anger, Dre's production, or Eric's business savy then who can say where they'd be today. That being said, Snoop is still the better artist than Eazy in nearly every sense. Eazy was great at the business end but compare his flow on any of those early records (or even later ones) with an early Snoop's flow and it's no contest.
LOL at leaving out Yella & MC Ren.
you may have your reasons but still
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Mac Dre Fan
ur not providin anythin of intelligence or reasonobility in ur words - ur a "stan", an obsessed fan-individal - who is dedicatin his life life into preaching on what is in his best interest, rather than viewing on subject matter through a logic perspective
the fact dat ur nick is "Mac Dre Fan", n the fact dat ur first posts and threads on this forum is about Mac Dre and the fact dat ur comparin ur pinup-idol wit names zillionofgazillion light years away from him, like you are ACTUALLY speakin on logical terms - is enuff for me to conclude dat u are without a doubt:
an insane crazy man, and crazy ppl cant be debated wit
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Quote of the year
but good luck convincing anyone that Snoop and Eazy-E are better than Mac Dre
Mac Dre Fan
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MAKE A PHUKKIN MAC DRE THREAD N DON'T GET ON OUR NERVES!!!!
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ima have to agree
Mac Dre Fan
ur not providin anythin of intelligence or reasonobility in ur words - ur a "stan", an obsessed fan-individal - who is dedicatin his life life into preaching on what is in his best interest, rather than viewing on subject matter through a logic perspective
the fact dat ur nick is "Mac Dre Fan", n the fact dat ur first posts and threads on this forum is about Mac Dre and the fact dat ur comparin ur pinup-idol wit names zillionofgazillion light years away from him, like you are ACTUALLY speakin on logical terms - is enuff for me to conclude dat u are without a doubt:
an insane crazy man, and crazy ppl cant be debated wit
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lol you can talk about stans all you want. My user name reflects the first thought on my mind when signing on a west coast forum to ask about ONE QUESTION, I have no commitment to this forum, so you can leave the petty details like my username a side.
Let's stay on the subject at hand, so I can run you outta here. Your a closed minded individual clearly, but I'mma treat you like a red-headed step-child if you wana debate me on this. There's no debate to this next fact, I won't say Mac Dre's discography shits on Eazy's
But it clearly shits all over Snoop Doggs and his fabricated image. ::)
Mac Dre Fan
ur not providin anythin of intelligence or reasonobility in ur words - ur a "stan", an obsessed fan-individal - who is dedicatin his life life into preaching on what is in his best interest, rather than viewing on subject matter through a logic perspective
the fact dat ur nick is "Mac Dre Fan", n the fact dat ur first posts and threads on this forum is about Mac Dre and the fact dat ur comparin ur pinup-idol wit names zillionofgazillion light years away from him, like you are ACTUALLY speakin on logical terms - is enuff for me to conclude dat u are without a doubt:
an insane crazy man, and crazy ppl cant be debated wit
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lol you can talk about stans all you want. My user name reflects the first thought on my mind when signing on a west coast forum to ask about ONE QUESTION, I have no commitment to this forum, so you can leave the petty details like my username a side.
Let's stay on the subject at hand, so I can run you outta here. Your a closed minded individual clearly, but I'mma treat you like a red-headed step-child if you wana debate me on this. There's no debate to this next fact, I won't say Mac Dre's discography shits on Eazy's
But it clearly shits all over Snoop Doggs and his fabricated image. ::)
Mac Dre Fan
ur not providin anythin of intelligence or reasonobility in ur words - ur a "stan", an obsessed fan-individal - who is dedicatin his life life into preaching on what is in his best interest, rather than viewing on subject matter through a logic perspective
the fact dat ur nick is "Mac Dre Fan", n the fact dat ur first posts and threads on this forum is about Mac Dre and the fact dat ur comparin ur pinup-idol wit names zillionofgazillion light years away from him, like you are ACTUALLY speakin on logical terms - is enuff for me to conclude dat u are without a doubt:
an insane crazy man, and crazy ppl cant be debated wit
Only thinkg Macs shits on though is Post Doggystyle. Classic albums like that can't be touched.
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I'm an ol' school nigga so I gotta say Easy...even tho he didn't write his own rhymes and Snoop made hotter music....wit out easy there would've been no NWA....no NWA means no Dr. Dre...No Dr. Dre means no Snoop Dogg.....real facts. 8)
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I'm an ol' school nigga so I gotta say Easy...even tho he didn't write his own rhymes and Snoop made hotter music....wit out easy there would've been no NWA....no NWA means no Dr. Dre...No Dr. Dre means no Snoop Dogg.....real facts. 8)
so much shit woulda been different in hip-hop if it weren't for Eazy-E
No Ruthless
No Death Row
No Tupac getting bailed out for 1996
No Makaveli album
No Aftermath
No Eminem
No G-Unit
No Game
lol you can talk about stans all you want. My user name reflects the first thought on my mind when signing on a west coast forum to ask about ONE QUESTION, I have no commitment to this forum, so you can leave the petty details like my username a side.
Let's stay on the subject at hand, so I can run you outta here. Your a closed minded individual clearly, but I'mma treat you like a red-headed step-child if you wana debate me on this. There's no debate to this next fact, I won't say Mac Dre's discography shits on Eazy's
But it clearly shits all over Snoop Doggs and his fabricated image. ::)
Mac Dre Fan
ur not providin anythin of intelligence or reasonobility in ur words - ur a "stan", an obsessed fan-individal - who is dedicatin his life life into preaching on what is in his best interest, rather than viewing on subject matter through a logic perspective
the fact dat ur nick is "Mac Dre Fan", n the fact dat ur first posts and threads on this forum is about Mac Dre and the fact dat ur comparin ur pinup-idol wit names zillionofgazillion light years away from him, like you are ACTUALLY speakin on logical terms - is enuff for me to conclude dat u are without a doubt:
an insane crazy man, and crazy ppl cant be debated wit
Only thinkg Macs shits on though is Post Doggystyle. Classic albums like that can't be touched.
Exactly my nigga
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No Ruthless
No Death Row
No Tupac getting bailed out for 1996
No Makaveli album
No Aftermath
No Eminem
No G-Unit
No Game
no ruthless maybe...but why the rest? lol
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No Ruthless
No Death Row
No Tupac getting bailed out for 1996
No Makaveli album
No Aftermath
No Eminem
No G-Unit
No Game
no ruthless maybe...but why the rest? lol
no ruthless No dre as a gangsta rapper mayby no aftermath eminem would still be around tho
game mayby but wouldnt be the same no eminem then mayby 50 wouldnt of
came out n prob would of got killed there for no g-unit. and ofcource suge was inspired by eazy
so no e no suge no 2pac bail which would of changed things music wise thier for makaveli might not of got made
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No Ruthless
No Death Row
No Tupac getting bailed out for 1996
No Makaveli album
No Aftermath
No Eminem
No G-Unit
No Game
no ruthless maybe...but why the rest? lol
no ruthless No dre as a gangsta rapper mayby no aftermath eminem would still be around tho
game mayby but wouldnt be the same no eminem then mayby 50 wouldnt of
came out n prob would of got killed there for no g-unit. and ofcource suge was inspired by eazy
so no e no suge no 2pac bail which would of changed things music wise thier for makaveli might not of got made
Eminem would probably still be around, but with no Dre to discover Eminem, Eminem wouldn't have reached the level of fame and success he has achieved. In general, I agree with the things you're saying here though.
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damn you actin like eazy birthed dre, snoop,....shhhh the whole damn westcoast
eazy was as talented as dre, snoop, king t, doc, above the law
he was jus associated wit em but he didnt make em....or break em..lol
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damn you actin like eazy birthed dre, snoop,....shhhh the whole damn westcoast
eazy was as talented as dre, snoop, king t, doc, above the law
he was jus associated wit em but he didnt make em....or break em..lol
I don't mean to say that it's a certainty that none of these people would have made it in the business without Eazy. They're all talented people, so maybe some of them would have. But I believe in giving credit where it's due, and the fact is that Dr. Dre and Ice Cube both had their first taste of fame in NWA. I'm sure even they would say that that opened a lot of doors for them. And from that point on, they were able to open a lot of doors for others who, in turn, were able to open doors for others and so on. That's why I don't think Eazy's importance to the genre can be emphasized enough.
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i dont think its reasonable to at look at things lik dat. "eazy gave birth to him to him to him and the whole fuckin musicindustry, woot woot."
sure, i understand the impoartance of credit were credit is due - but dont take things out of content by namedroppin Eminem, 50 cent etc etc.
cus if we are, we might as well say dat Eazy's mother or Alonzo of Wrld CLass Wreckin Cru origianly gave birth to the whole music-scene as we know it.
it's just silly
none of us, would've known what "he" or "she" would've been if it wasn't for "he or "she", get my picture? eminem or 50 could've been on Bad Boy or So So def, or who the fuck knows.. im sure other recordexecutives would've disovered both of them sooner or later
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No Ruthless
No Death Row
No Tupac getting bailed out for 1996
No Makaveli album
No Aftermath
No Eminem
No G-Unit
No Game
Welcome to the class of Eazy-E: Impact 101 187. Take a seat, this shouldn't be much new to you so enjoy a review of the greatest time period in hip-hop SO FAR.
Sure if Eazy-E never partnered up with Jerry Heller the talent of Dr. Dre and Ice Cube would still remain intact but as we all know talent is not a guarantee of success. Success is rare, Ruthless Records was the launching pad for the multi-million dollar careers of both Dr. Dre and Ice Cube. Both of these man have grossed over $100 million during their careers. Without Ruthless Records Dr. Dre and Ice Cube may have made it but there was no guarantee. Jerry Heller's investment of time in these young man was revolutionary at it's time because without Jerry Heller's involvement in the group them hitting the level they did may have no happen so fast. Jerry Heller is a very well connected manager in the music industry. His word holds weight and he was able to get Priority Records to take the risk in distributing something as controversial as one of the first gangsta rap groups. Ice Cube was a teenager when he was writing those lyrics.
Without Eazy-E's business model and pay rolls, the ex-UNLV football player turned bodyguard would have never of been whsipering in Dr. Dre's ear about leaving the Ruthless to start Death Row Records, which originally would have been named Def Row had Jerry Heller not made such kind gesture of helping Suge out while he was being extorted.
With no Death Row Records and certainty no monetary investment from Dr. Dre in the label that would go on to gross over $750 milllion in revenue. Now with Death Row out of the picture Time Warner never has the issue with media controversy over the gangsta rap label, so Interscope Records does not get set-up in an effort to distance the corporation from the controversial label we know as Death Row.
Now of course Jimmy Iovine, Tom Whalley, and Tim Field may have been working with some other gangster rap group making noise but that's besides the point, let's say they aren't. With no Interscope or Death Row, Interscope does not put the money for Tupac to be released on bond by way of Suge Knight. Tupac would have waited for his cases appeal and pending the ruling may have either been released or put in front of the parole board for another few months at the minimum and up to 3 additional years if Tupac doesn't get lucky with the parole board. Interscope holds stake in the success of not only Death Row Records but Tupac. Death Row Records was Interscope's stake in the gangsta rap game. Of course unlike Death Row, Interscope holds no bad blood towards it's competitors but it's all about being #1. Bad Boy was actually competition with Interscope as well back then (Bad Boy just recently signed with Interscope), it's other competition included Rap-A-Lot, Def Jam, etc. It's a blood game and who ever holds controls the biggest stake in it is going to be making the most money.
So Tupac doesn't get out for some time and when he does it's with a little bit of bad blood towards people he thought he was cool with, people who set him up or failed to.....Warner Brother. So Tupac is released, now remember earlier in his prison sentence he was talking about leaving the rap game and just making enough money to start a small business to pay the bills (ala a restaurant). Now of course Tupac may have changed his mind once he knew his pen game was his money maker. So obviously and most likely Tupac would have returned to the rap game. Creatively there is no guarantee of an 'All Eyez on Me' or Makaveli album. No guarantee of a big budget (like Death Row gave him) to even do a double album. The only thing I know Tupac had only musical plan that I believe was not a Death Row plan and that was the concept album he had planned that was going to be released sometime in 1997. From what I got, I believe he specifically did not want that album to be released under Death Row Records and this was one of the major problems brewing below the surface between Tupac and Suge. Death Row recorded in Tarzan, California at Can-Am Studio. Suge wasn't happy with Tupac using studio time paid for by Death Row on a project he was specifically withholding for his own label's release. Suge's feelings on the subject that it should have been all in or nothing to avoid a conflict of interest as to where the quality music goes (as well know this wasn't a problem). Suge was also hearing word about the talks between Tupac and Jimmy Iovine on Makaveli Records and it being directly distributed through Interscope. The Makaveli album would have marked the last album Tupac was obligated to record under his Death Row contract.
So........no involvement with Dre, which means potentially no Aftermath Entertainment signed under Interscope.
No Eminem, although this one may have still made it
Most definitely no Game, he was signed under Aftermath but with no intention. He was a street baller who's whole image was built from the ground up, hate it or love it he really is Mr. Potato Head. Nonetheless when they stopped supporting him (yet still made money off him) he prospered and made much better music than anything out of G-Unit.
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WTF?!?! :o
are u writin a book..? damn, u crazy as hell.. :laugh:
i admit tho, some nice points in there, dat def could make great use for some hypothetical-thinkin for a long time.. readin all these posts, reminds me of those old comic-books Marvel Comics used to publish back in the 90's - the "What If?" editions.. yall member those? "What If Spider-Man Never Met Marry Jane" was alwas my favorite
like i said b4 - this subject matter doesn't have health enuff to b debated more on, bcus of the simple fact dat - WE DONT KNOW. anythin could've happened to anyone at these labels in various ways only the big man himself would know anythin about,
example --- if mister "he" and/or misses "she" never were around - who knows, maybe Could 187um would've been the original André Young, maybe Eminem would've literarly killed his mother if Dre never showed up - maybe Big Lurch would've been the original first-black-president -- all of these things might've happened, due to "Domino-effects"..
WE JUST DONT KNOW, please drop it awready
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WTF?!?! :o
are u writin a book..? damn, u crazy as hell.. :laugh:
i admit tho, some nice points in there, dat def could make great use for some hypothetical-thinkin for a long time.. readin all these posts, reminds me of those old comic-books Marvel Comics used to publish back in the 90's - the "What If?" editions.. yall member those? "What If Spider-Man Never Met Marry Jane" was alwas my favorite
like i said b4 - this subject matter doesn't have health enuff to b debated more on, bcus of the simple fact dat - WE DONT KNOW. anythin could've happened to anyone at these labels in various ways only the big man himself would know anythin about,
example --- if mister "he" and/or misses "she" never were around - who knows, maybe Could 187um would've been the original André Young, maybe Eminem would've literarly killed his mother if Dre never showed up - maybe Big Lurch would've been the original first-black-president -- all of these things might've happened, due to "Domino-effects"..
WE JUST DONT KNOW, please drop it awready
Of course that's all 'what-ifs' and hearsay
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WTF?!?! :o
are u writin a book..? damn, u crazy as hell.. :laugh:
i admit tho, some nice points in there, dat def could make great use for some hypothetical-thinkin for a long time.. readin all these posts, reminds me of those old comic-books Marvel Comics used to publish back in the 90's - the "What If?" editions.. yall member those? "What If Spider-Man Never Met Marry Jane" was alwas my favorite
like i said b4 - this subject matter doesn't have health enuff to b debated more on, bcus of the simple fact dat - WE DONT KNOW. anythin could've happened to anyone at these labels in various ways only the big man himself would know anythin about,
example --- if mister "he" and/or misses "she" never were around - who knows, maybe Could 187um would've been the original André Young, maybe Eminem would've literarly killed his mother if Dre never showed up - maybe Big Lurch would've been the original first-black-president -- all of these things might've happened, due to "Domino-effects"..
WE JUST DONT KNOW, please drop it awready
Of course that's all 'what-ifs' and hearsay
That's right. You could speculate all day on what might have happened if Eazy hadn't been around. But the point is what did happen, since he was around. It's like saying if Thomas Edison didn't invent the light bulb, someone else would have. Yeah, probably. But Thomas Edison is the one who did, so he gets the credit. That's the way credit works. lol
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WTF?!?! :o
are u writin a book..? damn, u crazy as hell.. :laugh:
i admit tho, some nice points in there, dat def could make great use for some hypothetical-thinkin for a long time.. readin all these posts, reminds me of those old comic-books Marvel Comics used to publish back in the 90's - the "What If?" editions.. yall member those? "What If Spider-Man Never Met Marry Jane" was alwas my favorite
like i said b4 - this subject matter doesn't have health enuff to b debated more on, bcus of the simple fact dat - WE DONT KNOW. anythin could've happened to anyone at these labels in various ways only the big man himself would know anythin about,
example --- if mister "he" and/or misses "she" never were around - who knows, maybe Could 187um would've been the original André Young, maybe Eminem would've literarly killed his mother if Dre never showed up - maybe Big Lurch would've been the original first-black-president -- all of these things might've happened, due to "Domino-effects"..
WE JUST DONT KNOW, please drop it awready
Of course that's all 'what-ifs' and hearsay
That's right. You could speculate all day on what might have happened if Eazy hadn't been around. But the point is what did happen, since he was around. It's like saying if Thomas Edison didn't invent the light bulb, someone else would have. Yeah, probably. But Thomas Edison is the one who did, so he gets the credit. That's the way credit works. lol
I wasn't involved in any of the previous discussion that pertains to, I was just making reference to something irrelevant
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good luck convincing anyone that Snoop and Eazy-E are better than Mac Dre.
Sigging this one!!
This must be an alias!
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WTF?!?! :o
are u writin a book..? damn, u crazy as hell.. :laugh:
i admit tho, some nice points in there, dat def could make great use for some hypothetical-thinkin for a long time.. readin all these posts, reminds me of those old comic-books Marvel Comics used to publish back in the 90's - the "What If?" editions.. yall member those? "What If Spider-Man Never Met Marry Jane" was alwas my favorite
like i said b4 - this subject matter doesn't have health enuff to b debated more on, bcus of the simple fact dat - WE DONT KNOW. anythin could've happened to anyone at these labels in various ways only the big man himself would know anythin about,
example --- if mister "he" and/or misses "she" never were around - who knows, maybe Could 187um would've been the original André Young, maybe Eminem would've literarly killed his mother if Dre never showed up - maybe Big Lurch would've been the original first-black-president -- all of these things might've happened, due to "Domino-effects"..
WE JUST DONT KNOW, please drop it awready
Of course that's all 'what-ifs' and hearsay
That's right. You could speculate all day on what might have happened if Eazy hadn't been around. But the point is what did happen, since he was around. It's like saying if Thomas Edison didn't invent the light bulb, someone else would have. Yeah, probably. But Thomas Edison is the one who did, so he gets the credit. That's the way credit works. lol
I wasn't involved in any of the previous discussion that pertains to, I was just making reference to something irrelevant
Yeah. I was just agreeing with the point you made.