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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: ikke on January 14, 2010, 08:07:40 AM
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Opinions can't be wrong, you can be wrong about beliefs.
No matter how much you believe in santa it's not going to make him any realler =/
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Huh, opinions can't be wrong? you might want to rethink that one
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Huh, opinions can't be wrong? you might want to rethink that one
In my opinion you never wrote that post. It formed on its own from a mini explosion of pixels on your word pad and then you decided to post it.
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opinions are like assholes...
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opinions are like assholes...
Everyone has em except Retards. =D
Seriously, some people weren't born with Anal openings cause of some birth defect. So yes. Everyone has opinions except retards, who only love bright flashing lights, and bubble wrap.
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the things with opinions is that they are entirely subjective
where as facts can be proven/backed up by evidence/research
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agnosticism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfosGqvSkbs&feature=related
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opinions are like assholes...
Everyone has em except Retards. =D
Seriously, some people weren't born with Anal openings cause of some birth defect. So yes. Everyone has opinions except retards, who only love bright flashing lights, and bubble wrap.
bubble wrap is the shit
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From the opinion (yeah) of a non-religious man (ie. me) religious beliefs are no more than opinions masqueraded as fact anyway.
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Well I'm sick of this shit. God is fact, religion is based on opinion. How bout them Granny Smiths.
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Well I'm sick of this shit. God is fact, religion is based on opinion. How bout them Granny Smiths.
god is not fact. facts are backed by evidence. show me some concrete evidence?
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on the flip side i cannot prove there isnt a god, its just my belief that there isnt.
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Well I'm sick of this shit. God is fact, religion is based on opinion. How bout them Granny Smiths.
god is not fact. facts are backed by evidence. show me some concrete evidence?
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2484/naturemountains.jpg)
(http://img2.timeinc.net/toh/i/g/1206_yards/trees-01.jpg)
(http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/image/s_sunset23.jpg)
(http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/00/18/fb/77/columbia-river-gorge.jpg)
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7681/waterfalldesktopbackgro.jpg)
(http://endangerededen.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/young-african-wildlife-safari-2-young-giraffe-w-michael-poliza-b.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2289/2200698224_7256bc753c.jpg)
(http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_my_p_sk/0_my_photographs_sky_-_cramond_island.jpg)
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God is fact
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It is a fact that there are invisible rats running around your room right now.
I cant prove that to be true anymore then ANYone can prove that god is fact.
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i ask you to show me concrete evidence and you post up some postcard images? lol
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Well I'm sick of this shit. God is fact, religion is based on opinion. How bout them Granny Smiths.
god is not fact. facts are backed by evidence. show me some concrete evidence?
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2484/naturemountains.jpg)
(http://img2.timeinc.net/toh/i/g/1206_yards/trees-01.jpg)
(http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/image/s_sunset23.jpg)
(http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/00/18/fb/77/columbia-river-gorge.jpg)
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7681/waterfalldesktopbackgro.jpg)
(http://endangerededen.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/young-african-wildlife-safari-2-young-giraffe-w-michael-poliza-b.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2289/2200698224_7256bc753c.jpg)
(http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_my_p_sk/0_my_photographs_sky_-_cramond_island.jpg)
cmon man. How does that prove there is a god? lol God is a fabrication of the human mind.
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^ Far from that.
If man didn't create it, who did?
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^ Far from that.
If man didn't create it, who did?
nature did.
http://www.mountain.org/education/subexplore/explore02.cfm
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_are_waterfalls_formed
http://www.weatherquestions.com/Why_are_sunsets_red.htm
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if you wanna find out about other things of the world, then check out this documentary....its pure fact....as in backed by evidence, not just pictures. ;)
How the Earth was made:
http://www.ninjavideo.net/cat/1492
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I love how I erased what I initially put. But I guess it was becuz now's the better time to say it.
God is Nature. That is HIS artwork. There's one proof, and the most OBVIOUS of all.
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I love how I erased what I initially put. But I guess it was becuz now's the better time to say it.
God is Nature. That is HIS artwork. There's one proof, and the most OBVIOUS of all.
no, thats not proof at all. AT ALL. thats YOURE OPINION. again, show me some evidence? not what you think, not why you believe, but evidence!
you cant, cause there is none. NONE. there are theories, beliefs and opinions and NONE of them are backed by EVIDENCE. thats why they are called "religious BELIEFS".
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^ Far from that.
If man didn't create it, who did?
When I was a kid I didnt know who made money. Upon further investigation...I found out. I could have assumed it was god and just never known. Just because we dont know how something was created doesnt mean we need to stop using our mind to figure it out....and simply say god did it. Imagine how primative our world would truly be if we took on that practice.
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I know, I know, I know. By some strange, COINCIDENTAL reason, we, of all the planets discovered, we, are the only planet with life. But it's becuz COINCIDENTALLY, we had this lil bitty buggy, a cell. AND this cell evolved. Evolved to what? Oh, an ape, than we evolved from that. But than somehow evolved into trees, plants, mountains, billions of other tiny insects, millions of animal life, and it's so funny, becuz we only evolved into male and female species. Hmm. For a reproduction purpose. Hmm. Oh, than we die. But nobody, not even SCIENCE could explain WHY we die. We just do. And that's that. Wow. What a world.
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qt, do you even know about evolution? you think that one year there were apes and the next they were humans? come on man. you really need to watch some documentaries or read or something. cause there are answers, you just choose to play em off. and yes, these answers are backed by what? EVIDENCE.
Evolve, a docu series on evolution
http://www.ninjavideo.net/cat/2214
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Look man, you base your belief on ONE THEORY. We have endless evidence but you lack all possibilities of spiritually. So anythang I say you're gonna say 'oh that shit is fake, that ain't real, its all in your mind, it's a coincidence' It's funny, cuz when I was reading the Quran they talk of these spiritual beings that lead you into the wrong direction, in a direction of doubt and such, obviously they got ya'll by the throat. And I think that is so fascinating. But you're gonna say that's complete bullshit. But its whatever. I don't get it. This world is gorgeous as far as nature goes. Why have such a sour idea of life? How could you be so skeptical? Just thinking of how the world works, how every seed knows it's time like a clock, how your internal body functions, don't you ever think bout that, how could you not believe somethang made this? It's like the refusal to ponder life, so a quick conclusion ya'll act upon. I can't understand it. I don't know. Wonder my nigga, wonder.
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I know, I know, I know. By some strange, COINCIDENTAL reason, we, of all the planets discovered, we, are the only planet with life. But it's becuz COINCIDENTALLY, we had this lil bitty buggy, a cell. AND this cell evolved. Evolved to what? Oh, an ape, than we evolved from that. But than somehow evolved into trees, plants, mountains, billions of other tiny insects, millions of animal life, and it's so funny, becuz we only evolved into male and female species. Hmm. For a reproduction purpose. Hmm. Oh, than we die. But nobody, not even SCIENCE could explain WHY we die. We just do. And that's that. Wow. What a world.
Again...the amazing thing about the human brain is its ability to problem solve and figure things out. You said "of all the planets discovered". Well we know very little about the planets. Our solar system is tiny in comparison to the universe. If you went back in time 2000 years with a flashlight...people would think you were a god, because you possessed some power that they could not explain. "Thank god" there have been people out there who dont decide to stop using their mind, and instead of crediting god for everything, figure the shit out. Im not saying that there is for certain, NO god. Just as you or anyone else can not say there is for certain A god. The problem I have with religion, is that it pretends to know....when obviously they dont. All I ever ask out of a religious person is to be able to say "I dont know for sure". You can believe what u want...its your life. But dont live in a fantasy world that makes you believe you know what happens after death...where we came from...etc....when youve never died and been on earth your entire life.
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i base my belief on one theory? really? thats news to me.
and you claim to have all this evidence, well where the fuck is it? a picture of a waterfall is not evidence. its a picture of a waterfall.
act as if youre a district attorney and you need to convince a jury that Mr. X is guilty of murder. when it comes time to provide evidence are you just gonna show everyone a picture of a gun and say "there you go, your honor". you would be laughed out of that court room so fast.
and where do you get that i have a sour idea of life? just because i dont think theres a god? lmao
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religions were made because man fears what he doesnt understand. saying "god made it" takes away that fear and replaces it with a false sense of security. im not saying thats a bad thing, but stop acting like its fact, when its not. it simply is not a fact that god exists. if it was, we wouldnt be having this discussion right now, would we?
and like i saidf before, its not a fact that there is no god. because if that were a fact, we wouldnt be having this discussion right now, would we?
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religions were made because man fears what he doesnt understand. saying "god made it" takes away that fear and replaces it with a false sense of security.
exactly
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Listen I don't no any more, there's TOO MANY of you.
I've said so much shit in the past. But it's always the same fuckin' answers replied back.
Proof, proof, proof! Yes, okay, well it's called Faith. But there's REASONABLE evidence behind it that makes us believe, otherwise if there wasn't WE WOULDN'T BELIEVE THIS WOULD WE???
It's called reasoning. There's a reason for everythang. 'Coincidence' and 'by chance'..my ass. Starting with space..magnificent ain't it?
Magnetic fields extend infinitely, though they are weaker further from their source. The Earth's magnetic field, which effectively extends several tens of thousands of kilometres into space, is called the magnetosphere.
The magnetosphere shields the surface of the Earth from the charged particles of the solar wind and is generated by electric currents located in many different parts of the Earth.
The Sun is a bubbling, boiling ball of fire. It constantly belches out great clouds of hot gas. This gas is all charged up with electricity, too. This stuff travels at astounding speeds, some of it right toward Earth! This means that Earth's weather happens inside the Sun's weather!
Thank goodness Earth's magnetic field and atmosphere protect us from most of this blast. Otherwise, the Sun's weather would be OUR weather.
Now if it wasn't for the Earth's gravity, we'd all float off into space. So don't panic when I tell you that you're constantly falling towards the Earth at an accelerating rate of 9.8 meters/second2. Fortunately, you're also standing on the Earth, so that's keeping you from falling.
Earth is only the only planet with this strength of gravitation. Only planet with life. Tell me how? Think about this...The Bible which was written 3,000 years or more ago, says, Earth is the only planet with human life, created by God. IT'S 2010, AND IT'S THE ONLY PLANET WITH HUMAN LIFE. With our advancements, we could of discovered that there was human life on Saturn. And The Bible could have been garbage, but what a consistent book that is, huh?
How come there's only male and female species of animal/mammal/human? Why isn't there somethang between them, why isn't there more? Not a hermaphrodite neither, but a completely different gender?
REASON, REASON, REASON.
God is real. Repent before it's too late my nigga!
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Listen I don't no any more, there's TOO MANY of you.
I've said so much shit in the past. But it's always the same fuckin' answers replied back.
Proof, proof, proof! Yes, okay, well it's called Faith. But there's REASONABLE evidence behind it that makes us believe, otherwise if there wasn't WE WOULDN'T BELIEVE THIS WOULD WE???
It's called reasoning. There's a reason for everythang. 'Coincidence' and 'by chance'..my ass. Starting with space..magnificent ain't it?
Reasonable...
When you are a believer in something....anything will be evidence to you. Because you want it to be. Just like the court analogy that was used. If I WANT someone to be guilty...it doesnt matter if they are or not...I can convince myself through "evidence" that they are. The entire rest of the world might think Im a nut....but if I believe it, it doesnt matter. I can prove it to myself. Every so odd years they find a piece of wood in the desert and claim its evidence of Noahs Ark LOL. Some lady found evidence of Jesus in her potato chip. Hell....Elvis is still fuckin alive, and Tupac might have JUST died in Haiti. In order for evidence to prove something fact, there is no reasonable doubt whatsoever.
Anyways, again. My big issue is the close-mindedness that so many religious folks suffer from that makes them believe that they KNOW for a fact that god is real, that theyre religion is the right one, and that everyone else is wrong. Thats plain ignorance. I never claim to know for SURE that god doesnt exist. Cus none of us know. I just chose to not believe in a god that cant be proven to exist by anyone. At that point its just blind faith to me. And I chose not to be blind.
Regardless...Im sure we can just agree to disagree....yet again lol As this shit is gonna go nowhere
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Listen I don't no any more, there's TOO MANY of you.
I've said so much shit in the past. But it's always the same fuckin' answers replied back.
Proof, proof, proof! Yes, okay, well it's called Faith. But there's REASONABLE evidence behind it that makes us believe, otherwise if there wasn't WE WOULDN'T BELIEVE THIS WOULD WE???
It's called reasoning. There's a reason for everythang. 'Coincidence' and 'by chance'..my ass. Starting with space..magnificent ain't it?
Reasonable...
When you are a believer in something....anything will be evidence to you. Because you want it to be. Just like the court analogy that was used. If I WANT someone to be guilty...it doesnt matter if they are or not...I can convince myself through "evidence" that they are. The entire rest of the world might think Im a nut....but if I believe it, it doesnt matter. I can prove it to myself. Every so odd years they find a piece of wood in the desert and claim its evidence of Noahs Ark LOL. Some lady found evidence of Jesus in her potato chip. Hell....Elvis is still fuckin alive, and Tupac might have JUST died in Haiti. In order for evidence to prove something fact, there is no reasonable doubt whatsoever.
Anyways, again. My big issue is the close-mindedness that so many religious folks suffer from that makes them believe that they KNOW for a fact that god is real, that theyre religion is the right one, and that everyone else is wrong. Thats plain ignorance. I never claim to know for SURE that god doesnt exist. Cus none of us know. I just chose to not believe in a god that cant be proven to exist by anyone. At that point its just blind faith to me. And I chose not to be blind.
Regardless...Im sure we can just agree to disagree....yet again lol As this shit is gonna go nowhere
The close-mindedness works both ways here though.
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Listen I don't no any more, there's TOO MANY of you.
I've said so much shit in the past. But it's always the same fuckin' answers replied back.
Proof, proof, proof! Yes, okay, well it's called Faith. But there's REASONABLE evidence behind it that makes us believe, otherwise if there wasn't WE WOULDN'T BELIEVE THIS WOULD WE???
It's called reasoning. There's a reason for everythang. 'Coincidence' and 'by chance'..my ass. Starting with space..magnificent ain't it?
Reasonable...
When you are a believer in something....anything will be evidence to you. Because you want it to be. Just like the court analogy that was used. If I WANT someone to be guilty...it doesnt matter if they are or not...I can convince myself through "evidence" that they are. The entire rest of the world might think Im a nut....but if I believe it, it doesnt matter. I can prove it to myself. Every so odd years they find a piece of wood in the desert and claim its evidence of Noahs Ark LOL. Some lady found evidence of Jesus in her potato chip. Hell....Elvis is still fuckin alive, and Tupac might have JUST died in Haiti. In order for evidence to prove something fact, there is no reasonable doubt whatsoever.
Anyways, again. My big issue is the close-mindedness that so many religious folks suffer from that makes them believe that they KNOW for a fact that god is real, that theyre religion is the right one, and that everyone else is wrong. Thats plain ignorance. I never claim to know for SURE that god doesnt exist. Cus none of us know. I just chose to not believe in a god that cant be proven to exist by anyone. At that point its just blind faith to me. And I chose not to be blind.
Regardless...Im sure we can just agree to disagree....yet again lol As this shit is gonna go nowhere
The close-mindedness works both ways here though.
daygo and myself both admit we dont know for sure, so how are we being close minded? youre the one who thinks its a fact, regardless of whats being presented to you.
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Listen I don't no any more, there's TOO MANY of you.
I've said so much shit in the past. But it's always the same fuckin' answers replied back.
Proof, proof, proof! Yes, okay, well it's called Faith. But there's REASONABLE evidence behind it that makes us believe, otherwise if there wasn't WE WOULDN'T BELIEVE THIS WOULD WE???
It's called reasoning. There's a reason for everythang. 'Coincidence' and 'by chance'..my ass. Starting with space..magnificent ain't it?
Reasonable...
When you are a believer in something....anything will be evidence to you. Because you want it to be. Just like the court analogy that was used. If I WANT someone to be guilty...it doesnt matter if they are or not...I can convince myself through "evidence" that they are. The entire rest of the world might think Im a nut....but if I believe it, it doesnt matter. I can prove it to myself. Every so odd years they find a piece of wood in the desert and claim its evidence of Noahs Ark LOL. Some lady found evidence of Jesus in her potato chip. Hell....Elvis is still fuckin alive, and Tupac might have JUST died in Haiti. In order for evidence to prove something fact, there is no reasonable doubt whatsoever.
Anyways, again. My big issue is the close-mindedness that so many religious folks suffer from that makes them believe that they KNOW for a fact that god is real, that theyre religion is the right one, and that everyone else is wrong. Thats plain ignorance. I never claim to know for SURE that god doesnt exist. Cus none of us know. I just chose to not believe in a god that cant be proven to exist by anyone. At that point its just blind faith to me. And I chose not to be blind.
Regardless...Im sure we can just agree to disagree....yet again lol As this shit is gonna go nowhere
The close-mindedness works both ways here though.
Maybe with some people yes. Like I told you tho...I cant prove that there is no god...you cant prove that there is one. Im not saying I am for sure right....I might be wrong. Just as you might. But most religious folks Ive ever known cant admit (by the very nature of the religion they are a part of) that they might be wrong.
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^ So you're willing to risk an eternity of your spirit residing in a purgatory of hell becuz you can't be for certain? Of course neither can I. Cuz it's Faith. But if there ain't no God, there's no God, no consequence to me. You see what I'm sayin'?
daygo and myself both admit we dont know for sure, so how are we being close minded? youre the one who thinks its a fact, regardless of whats being presented to you.
You think I never had doubts or questions?? I mean I did but I came to the conclusion, life is far too unexplained and etc. and the more I see ya'll wit these beliefs the deeper mines becomes. Outta curiosity, is the only reason you choose not to believe is becuz you can't 'see' him?
You got 4 other senses my nigga. ;)
Or is it the theory of evolution? Cuz you got people who still believe in God regardless.
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Listen I don't no any more, there's TOO MANY of you.
I've said so much shit in the past. But it's always the same fuckin' answers replied back.
Proof, proof, proof! Yes, okay, well it's called Faith. But there's REASONABLE evidence behind it that makes us believe, otherwise if there wasn't WE WOULDN'T BELIEVE THIS WOULD WE???
It's called reasoning. There's a reason for everythang. 'Coincidence' and 'by chance'..my ass. Starting with space..magnificent ain't it?
Reasonable...
When you are a believer in something....anything will be evidence to you. Because you want it to be. Just like the court analogy that was used. If I WANT someone to be guilty...it doesnt matter if they are or not...I can convince myself through "evidence" that they are. The entire rest of the world might think Im a nut....but if I believe it, it doesnt matter. I can prove it to myself. Every so odd years they find a piece of wood in the desert and claim its evidence of Noahs Ark LOL. Some lady found evidence of Jesus in her potato chip. Hell....Elvis is still fuckin alive, and Tupac might have JUST died in Haiti. In order for evidence to prove something fact, there is no reasonable doubt whatsoever.
Anyways, again. My big issue is the close-mindedness that so many religious folks suffer from that makes them believe that they KNOW for a fact that god is real, that theyre religion is the right one, and that everyone else is wrong. Thats plain ignorance. I never claim to know for SURE that god doesnt exist. Cus none of us know. I just chose to not believe in a god that cant be proven to exist by anyone. At that point its just blind faith to me. And I chose not to be blind.
Regardless...Im sure we can just agree to disagree....yet again lol As this shit is gonna go nowhere
The close-mindedness works both ways here though.
daygo and myself both admit we dont know for sure, so how are we being close minded? youre the one who thinks its a fact, regardless of whats being presented to you.
exactly..it's the gospel of I don't know. Can you prove Santa Claus don't exist?? No you can't. Same goes for god. That's how you're gonna set this up my niggas. keep an open mind. you have to look at everything from a neutral standpoint. i don't give a fucc who you are.
^ So you're willing to risk an eternity of your spirit residing in a purgatory of hell becuz you can't be for certain? Of course neither can I. Cuz it's Faith. But if there ain't no God, there's no God, no consequence to me. You see what I'm sayin'?
So in other words..your faith is like a "get outta jail free" card for you. You honestly think that's a good enough reason to believe?. Trust me when I tell you this but the reasons for not believing in this bullshit far outweigh the ones that tell you to believe.
daygo and myself both admit we dont know for sure, so how are we being close minded? youre the one who thinks its a fact, regardless of whats being presented to you.
You think I never had doubts or questions?? I mean I did but I came to the conclusion, life is far too unexplained and etc. and the more I see ya'll wit these beliefs the deeper mines becomes. Outta curiosity, is the only reason you choose not to believe is becuz you can't 'see' him?
You got 4 other senses my nigga. ;)
Or is it the theory of evolution? Cuz you got people who still believe in God regardless.
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if you'd keep an open mind you would understand. you're not asking all the questions my nigga. the theory of evolution is definitely something that sounds reasonable and it's not even a theory. we know for a fact that species evolve. we don't know anything about this god business. NADA.
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^ So you're willing to risk an eternity of your spirit residing in a purgatory of hell becuz you can't be for certain? Of course neither can I. Cuz it's Faith. But if there ain't no God, there's no God, no consequence to me. You see what I'm sayin'?
this right here is the exact reason I think people believe in any particular religion. This basically sums it up. Fear. They are too afraid to NOT believe it. Thats terrible.
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on the flip side i cannot prove there isnt a god, its just my belief that there isnt.
THIS.
Facts have to be proven but you can be wrong about this so it should be factual?
Exeption?
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^ So you're willing to risk an eternity of your spirit residing in a purgatory of hell becuz you can't be for certain? Of course neither can I. Cuz it's Faith. But if there ain't no God, there's no God, no consequence to me. You see what I'm sayin'?
daygo and myself both admit we dont know for sure, so how are we being close minded? youre the one who thinks its a fact, regardless of whats being presented to you.
You think I never had doubts or questions?? I mean I did but I came to the conclusion, life is far too unexplained and etc. and the more I see ya'll wit these beliefs the deeper mines becomes. Outta curiosity, is the only reason you choose not to believe is becuz you can't 'see' him?
You got 4 other senses my nigga. ;)
Or is it the theory of evolution? Cuz you got people who still believe in God regardless.
exactly, there are things we cant explain, thats why people find comfort in god. it goes back to the whole fear/security thing. its far too simple to say "god did it" or "its gods will". life is never simple, so why should the explanations be so simple?
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^ So you're willing to risk an eternity of your spirit residing in a purgatory of hell becuz you can't be for certain? Of course neither can I. Cuz it's Faith. But if there ain't no God, there's no God, no consequence to me. You see what I'm sayin'?
this right here is the exact reason I think people believe in any particular religion. This basically sums it up. Fear. They are too afraid to NOT believe it. Thats terrible.
exactly. im not worried about what happens to me when i die, im worried about my life RIGHT NOW. when we die, we die. why are people afraid to accept that?
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I don't know. I don't know about ya'll no more. I have questioned, kept an open mind, so that should be flipped, YA'LL SHOULD QUESTION, YA'LL WONDER, wondering leads to wisdom. 'Oh I can't see him, I can't see God', YA'LL CAN'T SEE FUCKIN' AIR NEITHER! Whatever. This world is fucked, unfortunately. Ya'll just need to understand reason. It sounds crazy, ya'll ideations sound crazy. Like everythang was just some big coincidence. Like really ya'll? Really? Come on homies. Death. Why we die? TELL ME OH ATHEIST, WHY? No idea. Just happens. IT JUST 'DOESN'T HAPPEN'. Life doesn't just happen. It's somethang called..CAUSE & EFFECT! Ya'll learned that in fuckin' GRAMMAR SCHOOL!!
I'ma say though, I hope somethang happens, AND NOT SOMETHANG BAD OR SOME TRAGEDY, but somethang, some awaking in ya'll lives, somethang positive to change your views and realize God is fuckin' good. I says it wit respect.
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you call my ideas crazy but youre the one who prays to some invisible man in the sky. :p
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Like the invisible air you breathe? The invisible wind you feel hit chur face?
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The heart can see things invisible to the eye ;D
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religions were made because man fears what he doesnt understand. saying "god made it" takes away that fear and replaces it with a false sense of security.
exactly
not really. to you guys it's a false sense of security, but to others it's a true sense of living. I don't believe in God just because my parents, grandparents and the bible says so. I see the world for how it is and I see evidence of God through life and experience.
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religions were made because man fears what he doesnt understand. saying "god made it" takes away that fear and replaces it with a false sense of security.
exactly
not really. to you guys it's a false sense of security, but to others it's a true sense of living.
Thank you.
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In an attempt to get back on topic:
Officially it's not factual but this sounds like the exeption not taken into consideration when creating this rule.
Off Topic:
nothing magical happens during your life, why would something magical happen after you die?
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religions were made because man fears what he doesnt understand. saying "god made it" takes away that fear and replaces it with a false sense of security.
exactly
not really. to you guys it's a false sense of security, but to others it's a true sense of living. I don't believe in God just because my parents, grandparents and the bible says so. I see the world for how it is and I see evidence of God through life and experience.
In an atheists POV you've contradicted yourself there, how you see the world is dicatated by your upbringing and learning ipso facto...you DO believe in God just because of your parents.
I'm not one to shit on someone's beliefs, just thought I'd point that out so you'd understand at least the other side of the argument.
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religions were made because man fears what he doesnt understand. saying "god made it" takes away that fear and replaces it with a false sense of security.
exactly
not really. to you guys it's a false sense of security, but to others it's a true sense of living. I don't believe in God just because my parents, grandparents and the bible says so. I see the world for how it is and I see evidence of God through life and experience.
In an atheists POV you've contradicted yourself there, how you see the world is dicatated by your upbringing and learning ipso facto...you DO believe in God just because of your parents.
I'm not one to shit on someone's beliefs, just thought I'd point that out so you'd understand at least the other side of the argument.
I was speaking hypothetically, in reality my parents never really told me to be a good catholic and I never read the bible.. When I asked about religion my mom just told me "Just be happy." And even if they told me to believe in God and read the bible that doesn't mean they can dictate how I view the world. There are many athiests out there that grew up with religious parents and obviously their view of the world wasn't dictated by their upbringing and learning(as you said). I don't believe my view on religion has been tainted by my family's beliefs.
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imma have to agree with sparegz. my cousin and i are the only atheists in a family full of catholics and a couple chrstians here and there.
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imma have to agree with sparegz. my cousin and i are the only atheists in a family full of catholics and a couple chrstians here and there.
wykid wouldn't you be agnostic because you think there could possibly be a god?
i've been reading through this thread and yeah no one is going to gain anything out of this convo. the day someone convinces quiet truth that god doesn't exist is the day pablo escobar delivers me a kilo
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imma have to agree with sparegz. my cousin and i are the only atheists in a family full of catholics and a couple chrstians here and there.
wykid wouldn't you be agnostic because you think there could possibly be a god?
i've been reading through this thread and yeah no one is going to gain anything out of this convo. the day someone convinces quiet truth that god doesn't exist is the day pablo escobar delivers me a kilo
na, i dont believe there is a god, i just cant prove it.
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What - the - fuck - is - goin' - on - in - California - ? - ? - ! - ! - !
Besides it being a Cali thang...Wykid why don't you believe there's a God, if you was raised Catholic, how did you become a fuckin' atheist? ???
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because it seems like a fairy tale, to be frank.
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Ahh, yeah....it's deeper than that though...to be franker.
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not really. a guy in the sky made us out of nothing and poof. we're here. riiight. makes a lot of sense. ::)
plus, science disproves many of the things in the bible, and other holy books.
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Like the invisible air you breathe? The invisible wind you feel hit chur face?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen
maybe you can tell me gods weight? density? boiling and melting point? or maybe tell me what god is made up of? cause i could tell you all that about the "invisible" air we breath. ;)
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^ God is outta space, matter, time and energy. Why the fuck would he be of the same physical creation he made??
not really. a guy in the sky made us out of nothing and poof. we're here. riiight. makes a lot of sense. ::)
plus, science disproves many of the things in the bible, and other holy books.
False. That's the biggest false ever!!!! Biggest.
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Ain't it so fascinating how humans breathe though. We breathe in oxygen and out carbon dioxide and plants breathe in carbon dioxide and out oxygen. Amazing. :)
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^ God is outta space, matter, time and energy. Why the fuck would he be of the same physical creation he made??
not really. a guy in the sky made us out of nothing and poof. we're here. riiight. makes a lot of sense. ::)
plus, science disproves many of the things in the bible, and other holy books.
False. That's the biggest false ever!!!! Biggest.
idk, why did you try to compare god and air?!?!
and yeah, everything the bible says is true, right? yeah. thats why earth is only a few thousand years old. ::)
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^ God is outta space, matter, time and energy. Why the fuck would he be of the same physical creation he made??
not really. a guy in the sky made us out of nothing and poof. we're here. riiight. makes a lot of sense. ::)
plus, science disproves many of the things in the bible, and other holy books.
False. That's the biggest false ever!!!! Biggest.
idk, why did you try to compare god and air?!?!
and yeah, everything the bible says is true, right? yeah. thats why earth is only a few thousand years old. ::)
God and air is both invisible..
And nowhere in The Bible does it give the age of Earth.
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lol..god and air. lmao
like i said, i can prove that air exists. just hit up the oxygen link i gave you. show me the same thing for god?
and yes, the earth is about 7000 years old according to the bible.
http://home1.gte.net/bridavis/timeline.htm
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the fact that youre using this 'air and god is both invisible' argument tells me that youre running out of things to say. :P
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the fact that youre using this 'air and god is both invisible' argument tells me that youre running out of things to say. :P
Air = God.
Think about it, without it we wouldn't exist & it gives us power to do shit.
Not the sole god of the earth, but one of the aspects that I describe as 'God'.
It's not a conscience.
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lol..god and air. lmao
like i said, i can prove that air exists. just hit up the oxygen link i gave you. show me the same thing for god?
and yes, the earth is about 7000 years old according to the bible.
http://home1.gte.net/bridavis/timeline.htm
You said you don't believe in God cuz you can't see him. Well, you can't see or wind neither...is what I'm sayin'.
And nowhere's in The Bible does it say the age of the Earth. Just becuz people decided to try and 'figure' it out and 'interpret' it in they own lil mathematician way, means shit. There's no numbers in there, therefore...
the fact that youre using this 'air and god is both invisible' argument tells me that youre running out of things to say. :P
Oh TRUST me my nigga, trust me my nigga, never that!! Never. Please believe. Lol.
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lol..god and air. lmao
like i said, i can prove that air exists. just hit up the oxygen link i gave you. show me the same thing for god?
and yes, the earth is about 7000 years old according to the bible.
http://home1.gte.net/bridavis/timeline.htm
You said you don't believe in God cuz you can't see him. Well, you can't see or wind neither...is what I'm sayin'.
i said that? where? and god damn it man, i dont know how else to say this....
I AND EVERYONE ELSE CAN PROVE, BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT WIND IS REAL (LMA0), NOW DO THE SAME FOR GOD???!@!!!!
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lol..god and air. lmao
like i said, i can prove that air exists. just hit up the oxygen link i gave you. show me the same thing for god?
and yes, the earth is about 7000 years old according to the bible.
http://home1.gte.net/bridavis/timeline.htm
You said you don't believe in God cuz you can't see him. Well, you can't see or wind neither...is what I'm sayin'.
i said that? where? and god damn it man, i dont know how else to say this....
I AND EVERYONE ELSE CAN PROVE, BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT WIND IS REAL (LMA0), NOW DO THE SAME FOR GOD???!@!!!!
WE ALSO CAN PROVE ENERGY
IN THE BOOK OF GENESIS IT SAYS THE SPIRIT OF GOD MOVED OVER THE WATERS. SPIRIT. SPIRIT IS ENERGY. AND ENERGY DOES NOT DIE. WE HUMANS POSSESS ENERGY.
The Bible was written more than 3,000 years ago, and the concept of energy was studied only some hundreds of years ago. Crazy ha? ANYWAYS..
YOUR BODY IS NUTTIN'. BODY IS PHYSICAL. SO WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHTS AND EMOTIONS HOMEBOY?
Consciousness!!!
All states of consciousness exist independent of the physical body.
You are body NOW. A physical body. Inside your body is a soul. The soul is made up your thoughts, your feelings, your intellect, etc. That is NOT PHYSICAL. YOU CAN'T SEE THOUGHTS, CAN YOU?
Human beings have a spirit, but are we not spirits.
AKA IN SCIENCE TERMS...Human beings have energy, but we are not energy.
BECUZ WE ARE OF PHYSICAL FORM
WHEN WE DIE, WE BECOME SPIRIT. AKA IN SCIENCE TERMS...WHEN WE DIE, WE BECOME COMPLETE ENEGRY BECUZ ENEGRY CANNOT BE DESTROYED.
IT LEAVES OUR BODY.....WE GO TO HEAVEN...
NOW IT IS PURE SCIENTIFIC FACT ENEGRY CANNOT BE DESTROYED SO....
IF IT DOESN'T DIE, I WANNA KNOW FROM AN ATHEIST, WHERE DOES IT GO?!?!?!
According to some Atheists on this board, they're explanation is 'you just die'. YOU CAN'T!!! YOU CAN'T THOUGH!! SO PLEASE...
YA SEEEEEEE, IT'S MORE THAN JUST SOME MYSTERY MAN IN A MAGICAL SKY!!!!
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when we die we become a spirit and go to heaven? prove it. :D
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and yeah, im not reading all of that....caps lock is annoying as fuck, especially in a real conversation like this.
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and yeah, im not reading all of that....caps lock is annoying as fuck, especially in a real conversation like this.
You did it to me first.
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and yeah, im not reading all of that....caps lock is annoying as fuck, especially in a real conversation like this.
You did it to me first.
one sentence, not a whole fucking post.
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and yeah, im not reading all of that....caps lock is annoying as fuck, especially in a real conversation like this.
You did it to me first.
one sentence, not a whole fucking post.
I sorry.
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I am god and your all going to hell for questioning my existence, quiettruth however will get a cookie.
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I am god and your all going to hell for questioning my existence, quiettruth however will get a cookie.
fuck. :'(
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I am god and your all going to hell for questioning my existence, quiettruth however will get a cookie.
hell sounds good.
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like what someone on this board once said, "Hell is devoting your life to a god that doesn't exist"
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like what someone on this board once said, "Hell is devoting your life to a god that doesn't exist"
I hate when people say shit like that because we all know they don't really mean it. I don't even believe in the mythical hell, but in terms of hell being the worst thing that can happen to someone a line like that is only made by pampered snobs that don't know how good they have it. If you or any one you know equates faith in God with hell you should stop and think about people that suffer from starvation, constant rape, violent torture (and don't give me that bullshit 'if religion wasn't around we wouldn't have those things' crap). These people exist in this world and they really suffer and not a single one of you would chose any of those things over faith in God. So stop lying to us and yourselves and because neither believes you.
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nah, i don't really believe in that line..just makes me laugh. You're right though, I would rather live my life with faith in God 24/7 than chose any of those other things u said...But, i actually have choices in my life so ima make the best of what i have and make this money, ya dig?
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nah, i don't really believe in that line..just makes me laugh. You're right though, I would rather live my life with faith in God 24/7 than chose any of those other things u said...But, i actually have choices in my life so ima make the best of what i have and make this money, ya dig?
I dig.