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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Myrealname on November 26, 2002, 11:04:08 AM
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Ok we all know dre is one of the tightest producers ever but personally i prefer Dj quik,to me is a fuckin genius!
Lately dre is boring and repetitive,dj quik is underrated but still BETTER than dr dre.
What do y'all think ?
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hmm...i love both producers music, DRE is fuckin great, made some amazin beats in the DEATH ROW ERA, but overall i prefer DJ QUIK.....as a rapper hes MUCH MUCH BETTER, and as a producer im feelin his beats more, they are more musical and he experiments alot which i like, plus hes still layin down some heated beats, whereas Dres beats lately haven't been too great.....
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They are both great producers. Quik's style is different from Dre's. But i've been listening to dre longer than quik, so i pick dre.
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Yeah but actually dj quik is able to produce a track without help from 15 people around him.
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Yeah but actually dj quik is able to produce a track without help from 15 people around him.
Im intrested in how you got this information?
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Yeah but actually dj quik is able to produce a track without help from 15 people around him.
Im intrested in how you got this information?
Which one ?
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Yeah but actually dj quik is able to produce a track without help from 15 people around him.
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Dre has proved he is able to do beats all alone back n tha day, the help he has no days is people that play some of the instruments and shit so Dre ain't have to do all this shit but the beats are coming out of Dre's mind.
btw why do we have to go through this shit every week?
it's getting annoying, if yall don't agree that Dre's the best or betta than Quik nobody forces u to.
By regulary makin these polls u only prove that u care too much about others personal oppinions.
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By regulary makin these polls u only prove that u care too much about others personal oppinions.
What can we do in a forum ? ::)
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Quik...
His beats are tight. Quik knows how to use instruments. Most of them are just "way 2 fonky". But Quik is also the better rapper. I've never felt Dre's rapping style.
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One of the best dj quik songs to me is "Do I Love Her?", the beat is so hot and quik raps is fuckin awesome......dre cant fuck with him (even cuz dre actually is not able to write rap!)
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oooh not this again....this is a never ending issue!....you like who you like more and thats it......i fuckin love both of them....with dre haveing the edge......
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I simply prefer Dre.
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Both are damn tight, but I prefer Quik. The man is a pure genius!
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i'll have to go with quik, dre's been boring lately
dre's old stuff was better than quik's old stuff, but i'll still have to pick quik
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Dr dre is so much better, even though I'm not feelin his newest stuff too much. Quik's tight though, and I prefer the stuff he's doin now over Dre's, but all in all he's not Dr. Dre.
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DJ Quik by far. Dre's okay, but he can't rap, plus I'm not feeling his beats. Even a lot of his old shit is weak.
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Dr.Dre is the G.O.A.T. producer, nuff said.
Quik is a tite producer, but I don't like his voice.
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Quik is dope no doubt, but he isn't fukin with Dre's catalog...The Chronic, Doggystyle, 2001 are 3 of the best produced albums ever in hiphop, not to mention the shit he did with NWA, DOC, Eazy-E in the 80's...
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quik i crown as 2nd best in rap but dre is #1
it's like comparing jimi hendrex with angus young from ac dc
angus young is tight but he wouldn't have a career without jimi laying out the blueprint to westcoast beat making
plus quik through most of his career 89-01 has relied HEAVILY on Roger and Zapp....true dre relied on G. Clinton but that was from 91-94/5
dre's proven he can switch style and still sound dope without losing listeners....just gainging more everytime around (nwa to deathrow to aftermath...he's consistantly eclipsed his career each go round), he's also reinvented production methods each time around
we went from jacking old ass records to using sampling sparingly while mixing in your own original shit....and since 97 has been pushing producers to be more original
no one in in rap can make that claim
quik's only claims to fame is he could play his own instruments and WAS the best rapping producer ....but a little dude named eminem has now taken that crown
no matter your preference you have to tip your hat to dre no matter who comes into a producing contest (rap wise) with him
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angus young is tight but he wouldn't have a career without jimi laying out the blueprint to westcoast beat making
I'm going with Angus Young too. Darren Blake needs to make a hip-hop classic first.
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How many people can say theyve heard all from both?
More people are gonna choose dre cause they dont own quiks whole catalog...In fact theres a reason right there...Quik has way more of a catalog than Dre (7 cds to be exact) Also Quik has never fallen off...hes just switched up his style. You cant judge him by one record cause he always sounds different. Dre hasnt done much to change...People say they feel Quiks newer shit more than dres....well what makes anyone think this will change...Dres guest apperences have been shitty for the most part but Quik has hardley provided leftover beats to anyone that hes produced for reciently...
Remember Quality not Quantity.... Think of they worst songs Quik has been on this year...then think of Dres...
Im not tryna bring Dre fans down but c'mon Ive just named some valid points and there are way more.
DRE will always be #1 because he'll always be bigger. But Quiks MUSIC will always be #1 cause it will always be better.
Oh yeah and if you havnt heard all from both then dont vote cause you cant judge by guest apperences. Go buy every DJ Quik cd then vote.
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How many people can say theyve heard all from both?
More people are gonna choose dre cause they dont own quiks whole catalog...In fact theres a reason right there...Quik has way more of a catalog than Dre (7 cds to be exact) Also Quik has never fallen off...hes just switched up his style. You cant judge him by one record cause he always sounds different. Dre hasnt done much to change...People say they feel Quiks newer shit more than dres....well what makes anyone think this will change...Dres guest apperences have been shitty for the most part but Quik has hardley provided leftover beats to anyone that hes produced for reciently...
Remember Quality not Quantity.... Think of they worst songs Quik has been on this year...then think of Dres...
Im not tryna bring Dre fans down but c'mon Ive just named some valid points and there are way more.
DRE will always be #1 because he'll always be bigger. But Quiks MUSIC will always be #1 cause it will always be better.
Oh yeah and if you havnt heard all from both then dont vote cause you cant judge by guest apperences. Go buy every DJ Quik cd then vote.
or go download them all!!! ;)...lol..jk go out and buy them...anyway you can make good points dre fans can make good points and thats the way it is.....this is never ending.....i personally like dre and quik is number 2 in my opinion but like i said it is and opinion....you got yours saying quik is the best and thats cool too.
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angus young is tight but he wouldn't have a career without jimi laying out the blueprint to westcoast beat making
I'm going with Angus Young too. Darren Blake needs to make a hip-hop classic first.
David,not darren :D
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I got everything they officialy released...so why the fuck should I Care...
Stupid pole....They are both equal.
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I got everything they officialy released...so why the fuck should I Care...
Stupid pole....They are both equal.
Mr.stupid pole go to your bedroom and listen to some ja rule new ish
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Quik...
His beats are tight. Quik knows how to use instruments. Most of them are just "way 2 fonky". But Quik is also the better rapper. I've never felt Dre's rapping style.
word
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Dj Dre. Honestly, today its Quik but tomorrow its Dre again. it changes everyday. I can't decide. Dre had 2 classic albums and produced tons of classic tracks for other albums, and Quik has at least 4 classic albums.
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David,not darren :D
I also quoted the other guy who put down Angus Young. Just joking around clowning him. ;)
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No way Quik. He has not impacted music nearly as much as Dre. Quik does not have 4 classic albums, LOL, y'all need to get your definitions strizzzaight. Quik's never really invented himself to another level like Dre, and hasn't brought fools in like Snoop and Eminem; two of the biggest stars in hip-hop history.
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Murrow come on the question wasnt who impacted music more or who brought who into the game, the question was who you think is better. But anyway, you say I should get my definition of a classic straight but yet you would probably say that a Eminem Show or Marshall Mathers LP is a classic. All good, each to his own, its just my opinion cause I consider Safe N Sound or Rhytmalism classics, without a doubt. But yea like I said, Quik and Dre are about on the same level in my opinion. Dont forget Quik plays his own instruments
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Dre 2 classic albums???
Which ones aren't classics?
Straight Outta Compton
No One Can Do It Better
Niggaz4Life
The Chronic
Doggystyle
2001
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Well...if you look at it overall...more people would say Dre's are classics, and Quik's aren't. And for who they produce for is a big part of who is better...cause they are producers!
I love Quik alot...but he never had the impact in his music like Dre.
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i love both artists shit but i like Dres beats better straight out...Don't get me wrong Under the influence was one of my favorites in the past year
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He has not impacted music nearly as much as Dre. Quik does not have 4 classic albums, LOL, y'all need to get your definitions strizzzaight.
Yes he does.
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Dont forget Quik plays his own instruments
This is the main difference between quik and dre and that's why i prefer quik.
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Dont forget Quik plays his own instruments
This is the main difference between quik and dre and that's why i prefer quik.
So can Dre...but Dre opts for musicians who have more knowledge so he can get a better sound. That is was sets them apart in some ways. Dre plays piano...he also played the trumpet on "The Watcher."
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i hope some1 posts this once again after detox is out.
dont count dre out.
hes coming with something big
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i havent heard much of quik
about 10 tracks and i can say eithwer has been bad
but i can say that abouta couple dre beats
but dres been around for over a decade.
every beat he makes cant possibly be good
i pick DRE
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i havent heard much of quik
about 10 tracks and i can say eithwer has been bad
but i can say that abouta couple dre beats
but dres been around for over a decade.
every beat he makes cant possibly be good
i pick DRE
oh and quik aint in da game fo 10 years or what???
quik over dre !!!
more innovative !
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i havent heard much of quik
about 10 tracks and i can say eithwer has been bad
but i can say that abouta couple dre beats
but dres been around for over a decade.
every beat he makes cant possibly be good
i pick DRE
oh and quik aint in da game fo 10 years or what???
quik over dre !!!
more innovative !
Quik is not more innovative...he has used the SAME FUNK FOR YEARS...HE EVEN SAID SO HIMSELF! Dre has changed his style from N.W.A. - Death Row, from Death Row - Aftermath...now he will soon change up again.
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i havent heard much of quik
about 10 tracks and i can say eithwer has been bad
but i can say that abouta couple dre beats
but dres been around for over a decade.
every beat he makes cant possibly be good
i pick DRE
oh and quik aint in da game fo 10 years or what???
quik over dre !!!
more innovative !
Quik is not more innovative...he has used the SAME FUNK FOR YEARS...HE EVEN SAID SO HIMSELF! Dre has changed his style from N.W.A. - Death Row, from Death Row - Aftermath...now he will soon change up again.
Dre is not able to play instruments,he's good with the mouse on the pc with the bass/keyboard/sax/guitar player behind him,along with the publicist,manager,spokeperson and ghost writer (hey dre do this,do that).
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i havent heard much of quik
about 10 tracks and i can say eithwer has been bad
but i can say that abouta couple dre beats
but dres been around for over a decade.
every beat he makes cant possibly be good
i pick DRE
oh and quik aint in da game fo 10 years or what???
quik over dre !!!
more innovative !
Quik is not more innovative...he has used the SAME FUNK FOR YEARS...HE EVEN SAID SO HIMSELF! Dre has changed his style from N.W.A. - Death Row, from Death Row - Aftermath...now he will soon change up again.
Dre is not able to play instruments,he's good with the mouse on the pc with the bass/keyboard/sax/guitar player behind him,along with the publicist,manager,spokeperson and ghost writer (hey dre do this,do that).
IMAO myrealname...your a puppet.
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Imao ::)
Ok,im sorry if i've hurt your feelings.
To me dj quik is most complete.
Since "2001" album every dre beat is the same,to me he's boring now.
P.s. (actually your avatar seems more a puppet than me).
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Imao ::)
Ok,im sorry if i've hurt your feelings.
To me dj quik is most complete.
Since "2001" album every dre beat is the same,to me he's boring now.
P.s. (actually your avatar seems more a puppet than me).
Ahaa...myrealname where are you from? Ethiopia?
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Imao ::)
Ok,im sorry if i've hurt your feelings.
To me dj quik is most complete.
Since "2001" album every dre beat is the same,to me he's boring now.
P.s. (actually your avatar seems more a puppet than me).
Ahaa...myrealname where are you from? Ethiopia?
Can u tell me why dre is better than quik right about now ?
Lately dre's beats are kinda boring to me.
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Imao ::)
Ok,im sorry if i've hurt your feelings.
To me dj quik is most complete.
Since "2001" album every dre beat is the same,to me he's boring now.
P.s. (actually your avatar seems more a puppet than me).
Ahaa...myrealname where are you from? Ethiopia?
Can u tell me why dre is better than quik right about now ?
Lately dre's beats are kinda boring to me.
I agree with you. Overall, I say Dre. Peace
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DRE :-X
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By regulary makin these polls u only prove that u care too much about others personal oppinions.
What can we do in a forum ? ::)
We can acutally discuss some VARIOUS topics and not the same over and over again.
i havent heard much of quik
about 10 tracks and i can say eithwer has been bad
but i can say that abouta couple dre beats
but dres been around for over a decade.
every beat he makes cant possibly be good
i pick DRE
oh and quik aint in da game fo 10 years or what???
quik over dre !!!
more innovative !
Quik is not more innovative...he has used the SAME FUNK FOR YEARS...HE EVEN SAID SO HIMSELF! Dre has changed his style from N.W.A. - Death Row, from Death Row - Aftermath...now he will soon change up again.
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I don't get why people be talking like Dre been using his style since he started producing.
He is WAY more innovative, don't just judge his recent joints.
NWA, Death Row, Aftermath first stlye, Aftermath 2001 Style, and soon Detox...
Never ever has Quik been close to these changes of totally different stlyes which are all on top.
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QUIK!! hands down
Dre dont right his raps plus his beats are boring and the bitch samples a lot you just dont know it.
Dre is OVERRATED
Quik writes his own shit plus his beats are 100 times better than dres.
QUIK is UNDERRATED
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QUIK!! hands down
Dre dont right his raps plus his beats are boring and the bitch samples a lot you just dont know it.
Dre is OVERRATED
Quik writes his own shit plus his beats are 100 times better than dres.
QUIK is UNDERRATED
Dre samples a lot? BULLSHIT. Dre makes his tracks out of thin air - with live instruments. He sampled a lot only in the Death Row days.
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quik over dre !!!
more innovative !
I agree. "Rhythm-al-ism", "Balance & Options" are str8 innovative. Dre's much too boring for me.
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Well Ive got some time to post so heres my thoughts on the subject...
I said before that if you didnt know all the music of both dont vote. Some guy above said that hed only heard 10 Quik songs. Now that is just unfair...I realize this is just a poll on a message board but there is absolutly no way you can judge someone over 10 songs when youve oviously heard way more from Dre.
And Quik has changed his style.
Quik Is The Name - was more demo...Just him learing..sampling...Exactly what dre did with NWA.
Way 2 Fonky - Got his sound right...He made his music fonky. It was just a step above from his last cd.
Safe + Sound - ha was hard on this. He started messin with the talkbox more. He was using the samples right this time and he still branced off with funk.
Rhythmalism - Do i even need to say anything? This is the most original rap cd ive ever heard judging by producton. Its nothing short of amazing. Dres not in arms length from this one.
Balance & Options - Well....Not his best but he proved originality with Well, Tha DIvorce Song, Outro, Pitch In...ect. Defenetly sounds different from Rhythmalism.
Under Tha Influence - Doesnt sound like any cd hes done before. Completely original. The sound, The beats...everything. Very experimental.
Now id like to address the whole "playing instruments" topic... Dre seems to not go out in the open of who does what with his production. Unless you do a hard study of the names of the credits you cant really know for sure. As for Quik---Im a fan that owns all 6(GH is for X-mas) DJ Quik cds. Reading the credits inside i can tell you that Quik has about 3 people that he works with.... Robert Bacon, Stan And G1. If youve listened to one of G1s solo productions youd realize alot of Quiks "Fonky" production comes from him. But if you listen to some of Quiks solo work then youd see he is VERY original and innovative.
Im looking at the Rhythmalism booklet right now and I can see that Quik produces "We still party almost ALL by himself. Check it...
Synthesizer, Bass, Drums - DJ Quik
Guitar - Robert "Fonksta" Bacon
Percussion - DJ Quik & Eric McCain
So he cant play the guitar and he got some help on percussion. Now this may not be a big deal to someone that doesnt know much about this track but it is one of the best produced songs ever. Just listen from begining to end and try to count how many sounds/instruments you hear.
Also Id liek to address someones comment about Dre having more than 2 classics and him bringing more talent into the game... Well if you wanna do it that way then...
Suga Free - Street Gospel (Every song has a touch of Quik)
Mausberg - Non Fiction (Lots of Quik)
2nd II None - 2nd II None - (I think every song)
Penthouse Players Clique - Paid The Cost (Touch Of Quik On Each Track)
Those are all considered classics to lots of people. And lets not forget his own classics. now lets run down the list of artists Quik's brought into rap...
2nd II None
Suga Free
Hi-c
Mausberg
AMG
Playa Hamm
Oh yeah and lets not forget the re-cindeling of El Debarges carrer.
And one more thing... Quik defenetly has 4 classic cds.
Quik Is The Name
Waaaaay 2 Fonky
Safe + Sound
Rhythmalism
All in a row too!
So too sum it up....Dre will always get the vote by majority but if some people would open they're eyes more and take a chance theyd find out theres a whole new sound of music. A sound that is more original... Different and simply amazing... Hell i did. I opened my eyes to Quik and Ive never found better music since. Because of him Ive gone back to an old friend - Funk... And ive been more interested in jazz.(alot of jazz songs sound like Quiks grooves).
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M.O.P. Looks Ignorant
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QUIK!! hands down
Dre dont right his raps plus his beats are boring and the bitch samples a lot you just dont know it.
Dre is OVERRATED
Quik writes his own shit plus his beats are 100 times better than dres.
QUIK is UNDERRATED
good to see that there are still a lot
who are feeln quik more than dre !!!
GT
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Yeah: You on point there homie. I agree 100%...
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Has Dre covered a Quik track? no
Has Quik covered a Dre track? yes
Quote from Quik about Dre
Dr. Dre is incredible. The ultimate chemist. He deserves that position that he’s got as the greatest hip-hop producer of all time. He will never be outdone. Even when he quits.
If Quik see's Dre is the greatest, why can't ya'll?
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Has Dre covered a Quik track? no
Has Quik covered a Dre track? yes
Quote from Quik about Dre
Dr. Dre is incredible. The ultimate chemist. He deserves that position that he’s got as the greatest hip-hop producer of all time. He will never be outdone. Even when he quits.
If Quik see's Dre is the greatest, why can't ya'll?
word!
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some time ago
quik dissed da fuck outta dre...
so...
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some time ago
quik dissed da fuck outta dre...
so...
so in my oppinion it's obvies he realsized that Dre's doing his shit by his own.
Why would he give him all these propz now if inact he thinks Dre's a punk that ain't producin his on shit like he said back n tha day?
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some time ago
quik dissed da fuck outta dre...
so...
so in my oppinion it's obvies he realsized that Dre's doing his shit by his own.
Why would he give him all these propz now if inact he thinks Dre's a punk that ain't producin his on shit like he said back n tha day?
hmmm good point
perhaps he just wants some more attention, that's why he said that shit bout dre
cause you know quik wants to retire...
so perhaps this was his last try to get more attention thru dre
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quik says he dissed dre coz people were telling him dre was dissing him... it was just a tit for tat diss.
here's what quik said about it
But even while promoting positivity and sonic experimentation, Quik still found time on Balance + Options to send some thinly-veiled disses at a rival. On “U Ain’t Fresh,” Quick rhymes about an anonymous, Ecstacy-popping, bisexual producer who puts his name on other people’s tracks.
Ask DJ Quik who he was talking about on “U Ain’t Fresh!” and you’ll get a “no comment,” but anybody who listens to word on the streets has a good idea. According to Quik now, it was that same “word on the streets” that created any tension that may have existed between the West Coast’s two greatest producers.
“‘U Ain’t Fresh!’ was me being mad because I had listened to the streets,” says Quik. “You know how the streets always try to be like, ‘Word in the streets is that this real famous producer is dissing you. The best producer in hip-hop’—which he is—‘is dissing you on one of his records.’ And I bought it, and I listened to it, and it was like, Y’all are right! That do sound like he’s talking about me. And I jumped the gun and just like shot some shit out there from some shit I heard in the streets. But I was fishing for straws instead of being thorough. I would rather be thorough like I usually do. I’ll be thorough if I’ma diss somebody. And I’ve come to find out, it wasn’t even true, man. Now me and dude end up making the best music ever in life. You know, I guess that was my way of meeting him. Dude is like a warlock. Dude is like a wizard. Dude is still young. Dude is still making the best music ever. It’s like, How the fuck? I look up to him because I wanna be like him.”
So When did Quik first hook up with Dr. Dre?
“Oh, we talking about Dr. Dre now?” Quik says, coyly. “Well, that’s another story. Dr. Dre is incredible. The ultimate chemist. He deserves that position that he’s got as the greatest hip-hop producer of all time. He will never be outdone. Even when he quits.”
i quoted the whole part concerning quik and dre.
(from teh same interview here in xxl http://www.xxlmag.com/main/features/37_quik.php i quoted from before)
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some time ago
quik dissed da fuck outta dre...
so...
so in my oppinion it's obvies he realsized that Dre's doing his shit by his own.
Why would he give him all these propz now if inact he thinks Dre's a punk that ain't producin his on shit like he said back n tha day?
Nah, there is a band compesed by 60 players every time dre is in the studio
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I will always see Quik as like 3 times better than Dre. Dre's beats will never move me like Quik's do. Dre shit is so damn repetitive. Quik be freestylin' at the end wit instruments,switchin' patterns, addin' new instruments throughout the song, his shit is just great. Dre is a Beat Maker, Quik is a musician...that musician shit holds more weight with me.
Oh and with their beef I also heard that Dre stole tracks from Quik. Also that they worked on tracks together and Dre took all of the credit. I don't know if it's true, but I heard that Quik helped Dre with California Love and got no credit for it. Before you shoot me down, Dre does have a history of accusations on stealing work and not giving credit where credit is due...
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I will always see Quik as like 3 times better than Dre. Dre's beats will never move me like Quik's do. Dre shit is so damn repetitive. Quik be freestylin' at the end wit instruments,switchin' patterns, addin' new instruments throughout the song, his shit is just great. Dre is a Beat Maker, Quik is a musician...that musician shit holds more weight with me.
Oh and with their beef I also heard that Dre stole tracks from Quik. Also that they worked on tracks together and Dre took all of the credit. I don't know if it's true, but I heard that Quik helped Dre with California Love and got no credit for it. Before you shoot me down, Dre does have a history of accusations on stealing work and not giving credit where credit is due...
word man
heard same shit bout that stealin..
that was a good point wit quik freestylin wit his instruments !!!
feeln this one fa sho !!! especially at the end of the tracks...
and if listen close you can hear that durin the tracks too
GT