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Title: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: 2euce 7even on February 01, 2010, 08:29:58 AM
We All Know How 2Pac Was No Need To Explain That, Real Fans Know What Iīm Talkin About
Please No Pro-2Pac Or Contra-2Pac-Comments Please.Stay On Topic.

Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: Jimmy H. on February 01, 2010, 08:38:47 AM
You pretty much answered your own question.
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: weedhead on February 01, 2010, 08:42:20 AM
hell yeah!he was paranoid..wouldn't u be if the government and haters where after u. 8)
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: Okka on February 01, 2010, 08:43:23 AM
You pretty much answered your own question.
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: Nega-Sikotic on February 01, 2010, 11:29:53 AM
...yes, lock this thread now
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: ThaRealSupreme on February 01, 2010, 11:40:32 AM
U'd be paranoid too if you were a Black Panther baby.
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: Blood$ on February 01, 2010, 11:44:02 AM
I just ate lunch, haven't eaten all fucking day
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: Muhfukka on February 01, 2010, 12:18:24 PM
Psycho Hustla I Hope You Rot In Hell
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: ikke on February 01, 2010, 02:09:33 PM
Not at all in comparisson to his fans
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: Blasphemy on February 01, 2010, 02:31:35 PM
You pretty much answered your own question.
...yes, lock this thread now
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 01, 2010, 07:48:20 PM
was the gov't after him and if they were why?
cuz of the black panther connect or cuz he was pac?



hell yeah!he was paranoid..wouldn't u be if the government and haters where after u. 8)
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: Do Dirty on February 02, 2010, 01:04:21 AM
was the gov't after him and if they were why?
cuz of the black panther connect or cuz he was pac?



hell yeah!he was paranoid..wouldn't u be if the government and haters where after u. 8)

Both, He was Tupac Shakur the son of the Panthers and he was vocal about it. He showed the signs of growing into a strong vocal leader and he had already gained the ears of millions through his music and had already been active in the streets with helping the community. The FBI don't do a half ass job and if Pac showed signs of being a threat as a Panther seed growing into maturity, they'd mos def snuff it out.

Hoover and the FBI did the Panthers dirty all the way up into the 80's. You'd think they stop in the 90's
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: TRG on February 02, 2010, 01:11:05 AM
paranoid?.. 2pac?  nooo
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: V2DHeart on February 02, 2010, 01:53:12 PM
was the gov't after him and if they were why?
cuz of the black panther connect or cuz he was pac?



hell yeah!he was paranoid..wouldn't u be if the government and haters where after u. 8)

Both, He was Tupac Shakur the son of the Panthers and he was vocal about it. He showed the signs of growing into a strong vocal leader and he had already gained the ears of millions through his music and had already been active in the streets with helping the community. The FBI don't do a half ass job and if Pac showed signs of being a threat as a Panther seed growing into maturity, they'd mos def snuff it out.

Hoover and the FBI did the Panthers dirty all the way up into the 80's. You'd think they stop in the 90's

I agree, although I think that his signing with Death Row took away the seriousness of his vocal leadership qualities in return for commercial success, but good point

+1
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 02, 2010, 06:07:54 PM
thats crazy tho that the fbi would be after you
would the fbi be after him if he was one or the other?
instead of both?




was the gov't after him and if they were why?
cuz of the black panther connect or cuz he was pac?



hell yeah!he was paranoid..wouldn't u be if the government and haters where after u. 8)

Both, He was Tupac Shakur the son of the Panthers and he was vocal about it. He showed the signs of growing into a strong vocal leader and he had already gained the ears of millions through his music and had already been active in the streets with helping the community. The FBI don't do a half ass job and if Pac showed signs of being a threat as a Panther seed growing into maturity, they'd mos def snuff it out.

Hoover and the FBI did the Panthers dirty all the way up into the 80's. You'd think they stop in the 90's
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: COMPTONRIDA1 on February 02, 2010, 08:57:01 PM
hell yeah!he was paranoid..wouldn't u be if the government and haters where after u. 8)

no more said...
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: Jimmy H. on February 02, 2010, 10:18:03 PM
Hoover and the FBI did the Panthers dirty all the way up into the 80's. You'd think they stop in the 90's
Yes, I'm pretty sure they would seeing as Hoover died in 1972. Also, contrary to popular belief, Tupac Shakur was not a Black Panther, his mother was. Granted, Pac shared some political views with the Panther Party but he was not a member. This whole "the government murdered Pac to keep him quiet" theory seems a bit ridiculous.
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: Do Dirty on February 03, 2010, 11:08:21 AM
Hoover and the FBI did the Panthers dirty all the way up into the 80's. You'd think they stop in the 90's
Yes, I'm pretty sure they would seeing as Hoover died in 1972. Also, contrary to popular belief, Tupac Shakur was not a Black Panther, his mother was. Granted, Pac shared some political views with the Panther Party but he was not a member. This whole "the government murdered Pac to keep him quiet" theory seems a bit ridiculous.

Maybe I have to re-read the post but I don't think anyone in here has said Pac was killed my the government (at least not in this forum) though there are those theories floating about the net. Hoover died in '72 but the FBI still kept heavy heat on the Panthers even after his death. Pac wasn't a Panther, no one denies that, but you didn't have to be a direct member of the group to be on the radar. Every active seed of the Panthers is known by the government. If you're born to Panther parents and decide to get active in politics, etc even a little, you'll be taken notice of in a heart beat. That's just how the FBI works. Martin and Malcolm's kids were also listed by the FBI for surveillance
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on February 07, 2010, 08:31:11 AM
no doubt mixture of weed, drink, enemys and no sleep will do that.
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: Jimmy H. on February 07, 2010, 02:17:48 PM
Maybe I have to re-read the post but I don't think anyone in here has said Pac was killed my the government (at least not in this forum) though there are those theories floating about the net. Hoover died in '72 but the FBI still kept heavy heat on the Panthers even after his death. Pac wasn't a Panther, no one denies that, but you didn't have to be a direct member of the group to be on the radar. Every active seed of the Panthers is known by the government. If you're born to Panther parents and decide to get active in politics, etc even a little, you'll be taken notice of in a heart beat. That's just how the FBI works. Martin and Malcolm's kids were also listed by the FBI for surveillance
Martin and Malcolm were major historical figures in the Civil Rights movement. The Black Panthers were a group with thousands of members. I don't think it's the same. I think people buy into the "government killed Pac because he was a Black Panther and they were scared of his movement" theory because it's a more romantic notion than some of the others floating around. I mean, they could have been watching him because his mom was a black Panther or it could have been because he was rolling with Death Row who were rumored to have ties to drug money and gangs. Who knows? In Pac's day, the "hip-hop police" were less commonly-known than they are now.
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: Do Dirty on February 07, 2010, 06:39:45 PM
Maybe I have to re-read the post but I don't think anyone in here has said Pac was killed my the government (at least not in this forum) though there are those theories floating about the net. Hoover died in '72 but the FBI still kept heavy heat on the Panthers even after his death. Pac wasn't a Panther, no one denies that, but you didn't have to be a direct member of the group to be on the radar. Every active seed of the Panthers is known by the government. If you're born to Panther parents and decide to get active in politics, etc even a little, you'll be taken notice of in a heart beat. That's just how the FBI works. Martin and Malcolm's kids were also listed by the FBI for surveillance
Martin and Malcolm were major historical figures in the Civil Rights movement. The Black Panthers were a group with thousands of members. I don't think it's the same. I think people buy into the "government killed Pac because he was a Black Panther and they were scared of his movement" theory because it's a more romantic notion than some of the others floating around. I mean, they could have been watching him because his mom was a black Panther or it could have been because he was rolling with Death Row who were rumored to have ties to drug money and gangs. Who knows? In Pac's day, the "hip-hop police" were less commonly-known than they are now.

Hip-Hop police are minor nobodies. Former Panthers will tell you, any relation to the Panthers was enough to get you on the radar. Get active enough and you go from being on the radar to being under surveillance. Pac went beyond hip-hop police, but not enough for the FBI to even be concerned enough to kill him. You don't have to be as big as Martin and Malcolm to be watched, they'll know who you are before you blow up.
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: 2euce 7even on February 24, 2010, 06:11:36 AM
no doubt mixture of weed, drink, enemys and no sleep will do that.

agreed.
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: Sike on February 24, 2010, 01:02:15 PM
no doubt mixture of weed, drink, enemys and no sleep will do that.
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: socal on February 24, 2010, 10:46:57 PM
Killuminati!!  ;D

he'll yeah they were after PAC.. PAC had a knowledge and a voice which made him a very powerful threat to " illuminati, secret yet real life society.. Babylon the system   
Killuminati stand up
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: Jimmy H. on February 24, 2010, 11:34:24 PM
Killuminati!!  ;D

he'll yeah they were after PAC.. PAC had a knowledge and a voice which made him a very powerful threat to " illuminati, secret yet real life society.. Babylon the system   
Killuminati stand up
Oh, here we go again with this shit.
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: Davizz on February 24, 2010, 11:52:28 PM
He was paranoid because he got shot, people wanted to kill him.. how it ended? They killed him.
Can't be blaimed.
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 25, 2010, 06:24:10 AM
lol @ jimmy....you dont believe in the Illuminati?





Killuminati!!  ;D

he'll yeah they were after PAC.. PAC had a knowledge and a voice which made him a very powerful threat to " illuminati, secret yet real life society.. Babylon the system   
Killuminati stand up
Oh, here we go again with this shit.
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: 2euce 7even on March 01, 2010, 09:25:58 AM
He was paranoid because he got shot, people wanted to kill him.. how it ended? They killed him.
Can't be blaimed.

Kurt Cobain: Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: fabtoxicp on March 01, 2010, 11:05:18 AM
all respect to pac, but he sure as hell was paranoid than a mufucca.
he was goin after fugees, jay-z, mobb deep like it was the most serious thing in the world to him, really aggravated-like - while the niggas he dissed, were lookin at him like "dude, what the hell is ur fuckin problem?" "somethins wrong wit u"  ::)
if u were from newyork, and said "i aint feelin dat nigga pac music" or somethin like dat, he basicaly thought u were goin after him in a war
crazy muddafucca  ;D
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: COMPTONRIDA1 on March 01, 2010, 12:34:46 PM
U'd be paranoid too if you were a Black Panther baby.

And they say he was murdered by gang violence..it was the government...
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: 2euce 7even on March 01, 2010, 02:26:40 PM
Quote
And they say he was murdered by gang violence..it was the government...

"fuck the rap game, itīs M.O.B, so believe me we enemies"
"enemies wanna C me, what it B like"

pac was blood-affiliated no question about it.

all respect to pac, but he sure as hell was paranoid than a mufucca.
he was goin after fugees, jay-z, mobb deep like it was the most serious thing in the world to him, really aggravated-like - while the niggas he dissed, were lookin at him like "dude, what the hell is ur fuckin problem?" "somethins wrong wit u"  ::)
if u were from newyork, and said "i aint feelin dat nigga pac music" or somethin like dat, he basicaly thought u were goin after him in a war
crazy muddafucca  ;D

thatīs what im sayin.
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 01, 2010, 05:07:22 PM
was he down wit any crips?
sides snoop?
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: FUCK U on March 01, 2010, 05:15:43 PM
he was doin' too much blow.....
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: krzieg on March 01, 2010, 11:56:49 PM
he was doin' too much blow.....


haha sometimes i think that too
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: Trip Dee on March 02, 2010, 03:33:12 AM
he was doin' too much blow.....


haha sometimes i think that too

yup, i'm preety sure he was sniffin' powda. i bet everyone in the showbiz has at least tried, INCLUDING Matha Stewart lol.
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: 2euce 7even on March 02, 2010, 10:40:31 AM
was he down wit any crips?
sides snoop?

during his thug life dayz.i heard big syke and rated r are crips.
Title: Re: Was 2Pac Paranoid?
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 02, 2010, 10:41:59 AM
aite
did suge punk him and tell him he cant be around crips? (cept snoop)
shit didnt snoop want to be a blood but suge said he cant be cuz hes from lbc? lol



was he down wit any crips?
sides snoop?

during his thug life dayz.i heard big syke and rated r are crips.