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Title: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: thisoneguy360 on March 11, 2010, 11:28:19 AM
True story.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 11, 2010, 11:30:09 AM
perhaps, but it shows the female pull in music now.

bitches are attracted to him & guys listen to try to show they got some "Drake swag".

i'm pretty sure 99% of mainstream music is for guys to try to bag bitches. :D
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on March 11, 2010, 11:32:19 AM
Yeah females truly fucked up rap music. 
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on March 11, 2010, 12:41:23 PM
only got through a few tracks on one of his mictapes and came to the same conclusion
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: thisoneguy360 on March 11, 2010, 02:32:27 PM
Yeah females truly fucked up rap music. 

Yeah, to an extent, but there's plenty of guys that are super into him as well. He's certainly not someone I listen to and think "Wow that was awful" but the hype surrounding him is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on March 11, 2010, 03:10:56 PM
Yeah females truly fucked up rap music. 

Yeah, to an extent, but there's plenty of guys that are super into him as well.

and they are  :camp:
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: V2DHeart on March 11, 2010, 03:19:20 PM
Drake sucks
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Muhfukka on March 11, 2010, 03:48:38 PM
Yeah females truly fucked up rap music. 

Yeah, to an extent, but there's plenty of guys that are super into him as well.

and they are  :camp:
SUPER into him :camp:
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on March 11, 2010, 03:52:55 PM
dont get me wrong, Drake does have a few dope tracks, but overall i fail to see what all the fuss is about  :-\
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on March 11, 2010, 04:02:51 PM
Yeah females truly fucked up rap music. 

Yeah, to an extent, but there's plenty of guys that are super into him as well.

and they are  :camp:
SUPER into him :camp:

lol
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Pgb on March 11, 2010, 04:03:36 PM
Just some pop to me.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 11, 2010, 04:19:24 PM
Yeah females truly fucked up rap music. 

Yeah, to an extent, but there's plenty of guys that are super into him as well. He's certainly not someone I listen to and think "Wow that was awful" but the hype surrounding him is ridiculous.

yeah, i can bump some of his music, along with other mainstream artists.

but i think i've come to the conclusion that Drake & Lil' Wayne are just personalities most people would want to be.

get bitches whenever, super "swaggerful", etc. & they make average music & people just want to be them, so they catch on & there music is catchy, it's nothing that makes you stand back & say "whoa!".

but it's all good, can't hate on them too much, we'd all do it too; plus Drake has always been the way he's been when he came into the game, so he hasn't sold out lol.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Muhfukka on March 11, 2010, 04:22:28 PM
ive really only heard 1 or 2 songs with drake on it, i try to avoid the radio and tv music as much as possible. all i know is he sings a line in his song that goes something like "ive got shit on lock at the mall" which is funny  as fuck to me. clearly marketed to 13 yr old girls
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on March 11, 2010, 04:28:05 PM
Yeah females truly fucked up rap music. 

Yeah, to an extent, but there's plenty of guys that are super into him as well. He's certainly not someone I listen to and think "Wow that was awful" but the hype surrounding him is ridiculous.

yeah, i can bump some of his music, along with other mainstream artists.

but i think i've come to the conclusion that Drake & Lil' Wayne are just personalities most people would want to be.

get bitches whenever, super "swaggerful", etc. & they make average music & people just want to be them, so they catch on & there music is catchy, it's nothing that makes you stand back & say "whoa!".

but it's all good, can't hate on them too much, we'd all do it too; plus Drake has always been the way he's been when he came into the game, so he hasn't sold out lol.

Id wanna have Waynes money...wouldnt wanna be HIM.  First, there isnt one ounce of me that would ever wanna be famous.  Rich, yeah. Famous? Hell naw.  Plus, when you see Wayne...."genius" isnt exactly the word that comes to mind.  So Im assumin his ass will be completely broke within 5 years of retirement

The reason him, and those like him are big? Bitches.  Plain and simple. Bitches come in many forms....not just female. But bitches (male or female) are the biggest purchasers of rap music nowadays.  They know absolutely shit about rap music. So their level of expectations on a rapper are pretty low.  Just that the beat is good and the person sort of looks like part.  A solid beat = a star rapper.  Most Bitches cant even distinguish between the beatmaker/producer and the rapper.  So they start to like Lil Wayne cus the beat is good on their favorite radio song.  And boom...Wayne sells millions.  Good for him...he should make his money.  But its the reason the quality of rap music on the radio is at an all time low.  Bitches.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on March 11, 2010, 04:29:45 PM
clearly marketed to 13 yr old girls

BITCHES
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 11, 2010, 04:36:03 PM
Yeah females truly fucked up rap music. 

Yeah, to an extent, but there's plenty of guys that are super into him as well. He's certainly not someone I listen to and think "Wow that was awful" but the hype surrounding him is ridiculous.

yeah, i can bump some of his music, along with other mainstream artists.

but i think i've come to the conclusion that Drake & Lil' Wayne are just personalities most people would want to be.

get bitches whenever, super "swaggerful", etc. & they make average music & people just want to be them, so they catch on & there music is catchy, it's nothing that makes you stand back & say "whoa!".

but it's all good, can't hate on them too much, we'd all do it too; plus Drake has always been the way he's been when he came into the game, so he hasn't sold out lol.

Id wanna have Waynes money...wouldnt wanna be HIM.  First, there isnt one ounce of me that would ever wanna be famous.  Rich, yeah. Famous? Hell naw.  Plus, when you see Wayne...."genius" isnt exactly the word that comes to mind.  So Im assumin his ass will be completely broke within 5 years of retirement

The reason him, and those like him are big? Bitches.  Plain and simple. Bitches come in many forms....not just female. But bitches (male or female) are the biggest purchasers of rap music nowadays.  They know absolutely shit about rap music. So their level of expectations on a rapper are pretty low.  Just that the beat is good and the person sort of looks like part.  A solid beat = a star rapper.  Most Bitches cant even distinguish between the beatmaker/producer and the rapper.  So they start to like Lil Wayne cus the beat is good on their favorite radio song.  And boom...Wayne sells millions.  Good for him...he should make his money.  But its the reason the quality of rap music on the radio is at an all time low.  Bitches.

i feel you, but i personally & along with billions of others wouldn't mind the fame. :P

but like these club heads & shit say Wayne is there favorite because the bitch they tryna bag said that shit lol.

it's all about the female appeal. :-\
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on March 11, 2010, 04:42:21 PM
Yeah females truly fucked up rap music. 

Yeah, to an extent, but there's plenty of guys that are super into him as well. He's certainly not someone I listen to and think "Wow that was awful" but the hype surrounding him is ridiculous.

yeah, i can bump some of his music, along with other mainstream artists.

but i think i've come to the conclusion that Drake & Lil' Wayne are just personalities most people would want to be.

get bitches whenever, super "swaggerful", etc. & they make average music & people just want to be them, so they catch on & there music is catchy, it's nothing that makes you stand back & say "whoa!".

but it's all good, can't hate on them too much, we'd all do it too; plus Drake has always been the way he's been when he came into the game, so he hasn't sold out lol.

Id wanna have Waynes money...wouldnt wanna be HIM.  First, there isnt one ounce of me that would ever wanna be famous.  Rich, yeah. Famous? Hell naw.  Plus, when you see Wayne...."genius" isnt exactly the word that comes to mind.  So Im assumin his ass will be completely broke within 5 years of retirement

The reason him, and those like him are big? Bitches.  Plain and simple. Bitches come in many forms....not just female. But bitches (male or female) are the biggest purchasers of rap music nowadays.  They know absolutely shit about rap music. So their level of expectations on a rapper are pretty low.  Just that the beat is good and the person sort of looks like part.  A solid beat = a star rapper.  Most Bitches cant even distinguish between the beatmaker/producer and the rapper.  So they start to like Lil Wayne cus the beat is good on their favorite radio song.  And boom...Wayne sells millions.  Good for him...he should make his money.  But its the reason the quality of rap music on the radio is at an all time low.  Bitches.

I dont agree, ive been listening to hip hop since around 92, i know my hip hop very well, im a musician/beatmaker producer and i can enjoy Drake and Wayne music for what it is.
If im listening to lil Wayne or Drake its because i wanna listen to a certain style im feeling more chill.
One day i might wanna jam out some more lyrical shit and jam out Nas or some gangsta shit and throw on mobb deep.
Your saying that people who listen to wayne dont know hip hop but i would challenge anyone to challenge about hip hop or music in general.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 11, 2010, 04:48:24 PM
^i respect that.

i'm in the same boat as you, throwing it on at times when i'm in that chill mood.

but it's for those who believe they are numbers one & two in rap & put Wayne in like top five, dead or alive lists lol.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on March 11, 2010, 04:50:40 PM
^i respect that.

i'm in the same boat as you, throwing it on at times when i'm in that chill mood.

but it's for those who believe they are numbers one & two in rap & put Wayne in like top five, dead or alive lists lol.

Of course hes not top 5. Hes a talented guy hes been around 10 years plus he crafted his own style so good for him you know.
And yeah a lot of it is for bitches, when i was younger id drop some ice cube and snoop on some bitches aint shit in my ride but trust me you get a grown, classy woman in your ride she does not wanna hear that shit lol.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on March 11, 2010, 05:18:37 PM
Yeah females truly fucked up rap music. 

Yeah, to an extent, but there's plenty of guys that are super into him as well. He's certainly not someone I listen to and think "Wow that was awful" but the hype surrounding him is ridiculous.

yeah, i can bump some of his music, along with other mainstream artists.

but i think i've come to the conclusion that Drake & Lil' Wayne are just personalities most people would want to be.

get bitches whenever, super "swaggerful", etc. & they make average music & people just want to be them, so they catch on & there music is catchy, it's nothing that makes you stand back & say "whoa!".

but it's all good, can't hate on them too much, we'd all do it too; plus Drake has always been the way he's been when he came into the game, so he hasn't sold out lol.

Id wanna have Waynes money...wouldnt wanna be HIM.  First, there isnt one ounce of me that would ever wanna be famous.  Rich, yeah. Famous? Hell naw.  Plus, when you see Wayne...."genius" isnt exactly the word that comes to mind.  So Im assumin his ass will be completely broke within 5 years of retirement

The reason him, and those like him are big? Bitches.  Plain and simple. Bitches come in many forms....not just female. But bitches (male or female) are the biggest purchasers of rap music nowadays.  They know absolutely shit about rap music. So their level of expectations on a rapper are pretty low.  Just that the beat is good and the person sort of looks like part.  A solid beat = a star rapper.  Most Bitches cant even distinguish between the beatmaker/producer and the rapper.  So they start to like Lil Wayne cus the beat is good on their favorite radio song.  And boom...Wayne sells millions.  Good for him...he should make his money.  But its the reason the quality of rap music on the radio is at an all time low.  Bitches.

I dont agree, ive been listening to hip hop since around 92, i know my hip hop very well, im a musician/beatmaker producer and i can enjoy Drake and Wayne music for what it is.
If im listening to lil Wayne or Drake its because i wanna listen to a certain style im feeling more chill.
One day i might wanna jam out some more lyrical shit and jam out Nas or some gangsta shit and throw on mobb deep.
Your saying that people who listen to wayne dont know hip hop but i would challenge anyone to challenge about hip hop or music in general.

BITCH! lol j/k

Heres my thing. Yeah ive been into hip hop....really since the Fresh Prince was still makin tapes (yeah, tapes lol).  I remember the first tape I ever bought was Fresh Prince's "Rock The House".  So Ive watched the shit progress through the years.  And for me, its pretty sickening. Im not gonna say that there isnt any good rap music anymore...cus thats just some shit bitter old school people say about new music.  But for me, I listen to the content a lot.  Im focusin on the rapper themselves.  The beat is the beat and you can throw damn near any garbage rapper on a hot beat and make a hit.  But the average rap fan nowadays doesnt seperate the two.  When a hot new single hits the radio...and the beat is smashin...the average rap fan doesnt know enough about rap MUSIC to say...."yeah the beat is off the chain...but the rapper sucks".  They just say..."I love that new Lil Wayne song, he's an amazing rapper" lol.  Its because the fan base has changed over the years.  The rappers/music will reflect the fan base.  So when 13 yr old girls are your number 1 buyers...you make music that appeals to them.  13 yr old girls dont give a shit if you are actually a good rapper.  Only if there is a catchy hook and they can shake their lil asses to the beat. 

The reason I say its gotten bad nowadays is because at one point, rap had to appeal to actual RAP fans.  People who were actually INTO rap music.  The bar was higher for the rappers then.  Eventually it started crossing over and mixing with R&B and Pop music.  Good for the rappers paydays.  But it meant that you were now dilluting the rap fan base with R&B and Pop fans. The bar lowered for the rappers themselves.  Think about it. Now more then ever, it seems like knowledgeable rap fans understand that the best RAPPERS...arent even the ones making all the money and all over the TV.  The marketable ones are.  Thats a damn shame...

You.  Youre an exception lol
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on March 11, 2010, 05:19:57 PM
Oh yeah...Mtl....send me some beats! lol
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 11, 2010, 05:20:41 PM
extremely overrated.....he sounds the same and hes way to borin
good lookin




only got through a few tracks on one of his mictapes and came to the same conclusion
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Sikotic™ on March 11, 2010, 05:21:15 PM
For a commercial rapper, he's not nearly as bad as most new guys coming in the game.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on March 11, 2010, 05:28:54 PM
For a commercial rapper, he's not nearly as bad as most new guys coming in the game.

its kinda fucked up that we have to resort to saying..."well....compared to how bad the others are...i guess he's above....average?!" lol
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: thisoneguy360 on March 11, 2010, 05:31:12 PM
For a commercial rapper, he's not nearly as bad as most new guys coming in the game.

That's why I said I don't think he's horrible, but people are hyping him up like he's gonna save hip hop or something.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on March 11, 2010, 05:31:47 PM
For a commercial rapper, he's not nearly as bad as most new guys coming in the game.

this i agree with...yes he's obviously aiming at a specific audience (teen girls lol) but at the same time when you compare him to some of the other more recent commercial rappers to break through (y'all know who im talking about), hes got a lot more to offer...

he also seems to switch quite comfortably between "commercial" and "underground" shit...for example, he'll do some Young Money shit, then turn round and drop "My New" featuring Von P from Tanya Morgan, and Phonte from Little Brother, produced by Nottz, or "Think Good Thoughts" with Elzhi and Phonte and production by 9th Wonder, and is quite vocal in his opinion on the less commercial artists/groups who have influenced him and he listens to, so from that respect i gotta give it to him, he kinda caters to both audiences at times

but maybe if he did more of that kinda shit i'd be more open to the idea of actually listening to his other shit...at the moment im not convinced  8)
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 11, 2010, 05:32:45 PM
nah hes gon be gon soon, and even if he isnt he wont be remembered as anythin special or legendary ever




For a commercial rapper, he's not nearly as bad as most new guys coming in the game.

That's why I said I don't think he's horrible, but people are hyping him up like he's gonna save hip hop or something.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on March 11, 2010, 05:34:09 PM
For a commercial rapper, he's not nearly as bad as most new guys coming in the game.

That's why I said I don't think he's horrible, but people are hyping him up like he's gonna save hip hop or something.

Hip Hop will be saved when real rappers stand up and decide to crush this wave of pop rap that is taking over.  If that shit dont happen....rap will continue to go down hill. At least mainstream
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on March 11, 2010, 05:34:40 PM
nah hes gon be gon soon, and even if he isnt he wont be remembered as anythin special or legendary ever




For a commercial rapper, he's not nearly as bad as most new guys coming in the game.

That's why I said I don't think he's horrible, but people are hyping him up like he's gonna save hip hop or something.

more then likely
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 11, 2010, 05:36:16 PM
real tlak daygo...nowhere near nuthin like that, every song he, t.i., rick ross etc...i listen to wc, westside connection, trick daddy, and real shit more
IT GIVES ME MORE FUEL...lol





For a commercial rapper, he's not nearly as bad as most new guys coming in the game.

That's why I said I don't think he's horrible, but people are hyping him up like he's gonna save hip hop or something.

Hip Hop will be saved when real rappers stand up and decide to crush this wave of pop rap that is taking over.  If that shit dont happen....rap will continue to go down hill. At least mainstream
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Meho on March 11, 2010, 05:39:19 PM
For a commercial rapper, he's not nearly as bad as most new guys coming in the game.

That's why I said I don't think he's horrible, but people are hyping him up like he's gonna save hip hop or something.

Hip Hop will be saved when real rappers stand up and decide to crush this wave of pop rap that is taking over.  If that shit dont happen....rap will continue to go down hill. At least mainstream

I got a question for you. First of all what exactly is a real rapper and name some examples of real rappers in todays music ?
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 11, 2010, 05:41:29 PM
For a commercial rapper, he's not nearly as bad as most new guys coming in the game.

That's why I said I don't think he's horrible, but people are hyping him up like he's gonna save hip hop or something.

Hip Hop will be saved when real rappers stand up and decide to crush this wave of pop rap that is taking over.  If that shit dont happen....rap will continue to go down hill. At least mainstream

honestly, it isn't even "real rappers" not making a stand, i mean Nas dropped "Hip Hop Is Dead".

it's just the fans pay combined millions of dollars for this new generation of Hip Hop & they aren't even interested in things that "real rappers" put out.

it has to be pure blame on the fans, i mean, artists are just doing what they have to, to make a buck & label executives aren't going to push "real rap", if it isn't going to sell.

if these autotuned songs didn't sell & people were hyped for a new actualy rap album, it wouldn't be the way it is.

blame goes to the fans for wanting more & more music by the mainstream guys today, which gets back to the female influence & how since they want it & guys want girls to get loose in the club, they don't mind it & what you have is the fall of mainstream Hip Hop.

mainstream being underlined because it isn't rap that's dead, just the mainstream junk; plenty of fantastic underground music.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 11, 2010, 05:42:51 PM
real talk cham....REAL MUTHAFUCCIN TALK G
damn thats what i been sayin for years
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Sikotic™ on March 11, 2010, 05:51:29 PM
its kinda fucked up that we have to resort to saying..."well....compared to how bad the others are...i guess he's above....average?!" lol
That's why I said I don't think he's horrible, but people are hyping him up like he's gonna save hip hop or something.

Yeah, no doubt. It's not a good thing everyone is acting like he's hip-hops savior.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Lucifuge on March 12, 2010, 02:07:59 AM
Fuck up shit is when "real rapprs" drop album people says hes playdout,and they said they need to back on they street shit,and then they said hes playdout..fuck out with that
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: ikke on March 12, 2010, 04:01:09 AM
People talk about hip-hop as 1 genre but it's too big for it to remain the same.
There's no hip-hop anymore, there are several sub-culture's within the hip-hop culture.
Even comparing a waka to a method man is ridiculous, comparing him to the sex pistols makes just as much sense.

If you want hip-hop to stay the same you want it to die.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: MrJas on March 12, 2010, 05:22:09 AM
For a commercial rapper, he's not nearly as bad as most new guys coming in the game.

very true, IMO So Far Gone was an awesome mixtape.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: MediumL on March 12, 2010, 05:30:31 AM
For a mainstream rapper he's alright but I just find his subject matter boring as fuck. Can't believe people get hyped over songs where he talks about nothing with punchlines.

Drake = glorified punchline rapper that can write a hook
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: AlerG on March 12, 2010, 06:28:05 AM
He's one of them, really nothing about him that makes me wanna listen to more than 15 seconds of his music,

http://www.myspace.com/miclordzmusic <-----Better Music Than Drakes  8)
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 12, 2010, 06:33:56 AM
yeah 12 seconds actually...lol




He's one of them, really nothing about him that makes me wanna listen to more than 15 seconds of his music,

http://www.myspace.com/miclordzmusic <-----Better Music Than Drakes  8)
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: westside159 on March 13, 2010, 06:16:29 AM
he aint no rapper he is a pop singer

cant feel a rich kid from toronto like that , claiming to be this and that bs
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on March 13, 2010, 11:29:18 AM
Yeah females truly fucked up rap music. 

Yeah, to an extent, but there's plenty of guys that are super into him as well. He's certainly not someone I listen to and think "Wow that was awful" but the hype surrounding him is ridiculous.

yeah, i can bump some of his music, along with other mainstream artists.

but i think i've come to the conclusion that Drake & Lil' Wayne are just personalities most people would want to be.

get bitches whenever, super "swaggerful", etc. & they make average music & people just want to be them, so they catch on & there music is catchy, it's nothing that makes you stand back & say "whoa!".

but it's all good, can't hate on them too much, we'd all do it too; plus Drake has always been the way he's been when he came into the game, so he hasn't sold out lol.

Id wanna have Waynes money...wouldnt wanna be HIM.  First, there isnt one ounce of me that would ever wanna be famous.  Rich, yeah. Famous? Hell naw.  Plus, when you see Wayne...."genius" isnt exactly the word that comes to mind.  So Im assumin his ass will be completely broke within 5 years of retirement

The reason him, and those like him are big? Bitches.  Plain and simple. Bitches come in many forms....not just female. But bitches (male or female) are the biggest purchasers of rap music nowadays.  They know absolutely shit about rap music. So their level of expectations on a rapper are pretty low.  Just that the beat is good and the person sort of looks like part.  A solid beat = a star rapper.  Most Bitches cant even distinguish between the beatmaker/producer and the rapper.  So they start to like Lil Wayne cus the beat is good on their favorite radio song.  And boom...Wayne sells millions.  Good for him...he should make his money.  But its the reason the quality of rap music on the radio is at an all time low.  Bitches.

I dont agree, ive been listening to hip hop since around 92, i know my hip hop very well, im a musician/beatmaker producer and i can enjoy Drake and Wayne music for what it is.
If im listening to lil Wayne or Drake its because i wanna listen to a certain style im feeling more chill.
One day i might wanna jam out some more lyrical shit and jam out Nas or some gangsta shit and throw on mobb deep.
Your saying that people who listen to wayne dont know hip hop but i would challenge anyone to challenge about hip hop or music in general.

BITCH! lol j/k

Heres my thing. Yeah ive been into hip hop....really since the Fresh Prince was still makin tapes (yeah, tapes lol).  I remember the first tape I ever bought was Fresh Prince's "Rock The House".  So Ive watched the shit progress through the years.  And for me, its pretty sickening. Im not gonna say that there isnt any good rap music anymore...cus thats just some shit bitter old school people say about new music.  But for me, I listen to the content a lot.  Im focusin on the rapper themselves.  The beat is the beat and you can throw damn near any garbage rapper on a hot beat and make a hit.  But the average rap fan nowadays doesnt seperate the two.  When a hot new single hits the radio...and the beat is smashin...the average rap fan doesnt know enough about rap MUSIC to say...."yeah the beat is off the chain...but the rapper sucks".  They just say..."I love that new Lil Wayne song, he's an amazing rapper" lol.  Its because the fan base has changed over the years.  The rappers/music will reflect the fan base.  So when 13 yr old girls are your number 1 buyers...you make music that appeals to them.  13 yr old girls dont give a shit if you are actually a good rapper.  Only if there is a catchy hook and they can shake their lil asses to the beat. 

The reason I say its gotten bad nowadays is because at one point, rap had to appeal to actual RAP fans.  People who were actually INTO rap music.  The bar was higher for the rappers then.  Eventually it started crossing over and mixing with R&B and Pop music.  Good for the rappers paydays.  But it meant that you were now dilluting the rap fan base with R&B and Pop fans. The bar lowered for the rappers themselves.  Think about it. Now more then ever, it seems like knowledgeable rap fans understand that the best RAPPERS...arent even the ones making all the money and all over the TV.  The marketable ones are.  Thats a damn shame...

You.  Youre an exception lol
preach +1
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Black Excellence on March 14, 2010, 07:11:55 AM
True story.
i agree i think he's a watered icey version of devin the dude.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 14, 2010, 07:14:05 AM
drake tries too hard and he acts like wayne...thinks hes the best singer/rapper alive.....jus like 50 said to wayne hes a whore for bein on every record
thats what drake is doin....
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on March 14, 2010, 08:23:59 AM
Drake sucks
Plain & simple.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Action! on March 14, 2010, 08:28:58 AM
The talk in here is ridiculous.

You must be stupid if you don't understand what Drake or Lil Wayne rhymes about.  It's often not nothing as some of you claim.  Each track is about something.

Real rappers?  Really?  Come on!  Are people still claiming this argument about MC's? 

Everyone here needs to chill out, enjoy the music, and move on.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Shallow on March 14, 2010, 10:43:22 AM
Drake has always been the way he's been when he came into the game, so he hasn't sold out lol.


Really?

Before

http://www.youtube.com/v/tJUszm9JpCg


http://www.youtube.com/v/fQEjHm7rb4U


After



http://www.youtube.com/v/FBViEHtK9JI


I used to see this kid at the mall. He's nothing like the clown he portrays on camera these days. The guy is a one man minstrel show.


Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 14, 2010, 11:12:30 AM
^i don't know about his personal life; but i'm talking in terms of music, i haven't heard a dramatic change from when he's came in.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: NotoriousTDA on March 14, 2010, 11:21:45 AM
Drake has always been the way he's been when he came into the game, so he hasn't sold out lol.


Really?

Before

http://www.youtube.com/v/tJUszm9JpCg


http://www.youtube.com/v/fQEjHm7rb4U


After



http://www.youtube.com/v/FBViEHtK9JI


I used to see this kid at the mall. He's nothing like the clown he portrays on camera these days. The guy is a one man minstrel show.




money changes people. nothing new here.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Shallow on March 14, 2010, 11:47:46 AM
Drake has always been the way he's been when he came into the game, so he hasn't sold out lol.


Really?

Before

http://www.youtube.com/v/tJUszm9JpCg


http://www.youtube.com/v/fQEjHm7rb4U


After



http://www.youtube.com/v/FBViEHtK9JI


I used to see this kid at the mall. He's nothing like the clown he portrays on camera these days. The guy is a one man minstrel show.




money changes people. nothing new here.


The kid was born rich. He's from the very high end of town.


The answer is simple. He's an actor first and he's playing a role. He might even end up becoming very successful as a crossover star. He obviously can act. But his music will probably always suck.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: NotoriousTDA on March 14, 2010, 12:47:50 PM
opinions, opinions.

i dont even like mainstream music, but when it comes down to getting in that swagger party mood, i wanna listen to some drake.

i think hes got some clever ass rhymes too. its not like hes just farting over a sick beat and people like it just cuz its drake, hes got dope rhymes.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: ikke on March 14, 2010, 12:48:48 PM
Just reflect on drake's struggle for a second

http://www.youtube.com/v/PC-sZcVj4Eg

He really wanted that sandwich!
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: white Boy on March 14, 2010, 05:20:11 PM
who the fuck is drake?
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Sikotic™ on March 14, 2010, 05:27:31 PM
Like Drake is the only rapper putting on an act. C'mon people.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Shallow on March 14, 2010, 05:58:55 PM
Like Drake is the only rapper putting on an act. C'mon people.

Yeah but you gotta see where I'm coming from. He's been on TV here as a the clean cut athlete on a highschool drama, he was always around in the malls and community centers. He was younger than me so we never really hung out, and he was from a much higher end white neighborhood so he wouldn't come down to my area too often. But he was never the guy he's acting like now and I can't buy him in that role at all. Most rappers are acts but when you have seen the real person for so many years it's hard to buy into the facade.

For me it's like I grew up in the same part of New York as Alfonso Ribeiro and after finishing with Silver Spoons instead of going on to play Carlton Banks he decided to jump on the growing hip hop movement and started talking like Big Daddy Kane and Rakim. I just couldn't take him seriously.


I remember seeing Drake downtown at Dundas Square the summer of 08 or 07, just before he started releasing music, and he was all thugged out taking gangsta pics with some photographer. He wasn't famous as Drake yet and no one would have recognized him from the show the way he was dressed, and it was 1AM and not many people were outside anyway. He was walking around talking like Jay Z. We saw each other and he nodded recognizing me from the ball tournaments and shit (I was always the only white guy that dressed and talked like a white guy at these things so I was easy to notice), but I just looked back like what's wrong with this guy. Then he took off in his Pontiac Grand Am and the next time I saw him he was Drake on TV all big and bad.

Do I wish I spent more time with the kid when he was a nobody begging for acceptance on the street? Absolutely. But will I ever take his gimmick seriously? No.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: NotoriousTDA on March 14, 2010, 07:46:00 PM
this is a much deeper issue for you homie.

if it helps, i would recommend seeking a psychiatrist.

or talk to sik or some shit, i think hes a docter
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: MrJas on March 14, 2010, 08:03:43 PM
this is a much deeper issue for you homie.

if it helps, i would recommend seeking a psychiatrist.

or talk to sik or some shit, i think hes a docter
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: Shallow on March 14, 2010, 09:57:07 PM
this is a much deeper issue for you homie.

if it helps, i would recommend seeking a psychiatrist.

or talk to sik or some shit, i think hes a docter


Will do. Thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: westside159 on March 14, 2010, 10:08:08 PM
drake is so overhyped for no reason , its lame
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 14, 2010, 10:08:54 PM
he jus happens to be signed to another rapper who thinks hes the best...lol






drake is so overhyped for no reason , its lame
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: westside159 on March 14, 2010, 10:12:40 PM
Rebirth & Young money albums  =  Flop Trash
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 14, 2010, 10:15:28 PM
wayne cant sleep at night in his pc cell....lol




Rebirth & Young money albums  =  Flop Trash
Title: Re: Drake= The Most Overhyed Rapper Ever
Post by: J-FUNKTION on March 17, 2010, 01:04:16 PM
yo fuck the bullshit..i hated him at first..the few things i heard were trash..but then i saw he had a track produced by khalil, and that shit went hard...so i gave a chance to a mixtape or 2 and i was like damn..this muthafucka really got it when he wants...for every wack track, theres a dope one somewhere in his catalogue...im down with drake...mtl to t.dot ;D