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Title: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Okka on March 18, 2010, 02:43:56 PM
I was just wonderin', these are two of my favorite albums ever (with Doggystyle) and everybody loves them but which one do YOU like more?
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: G-Funk on March 18, 2010, 02:45:03 PM
The Chronic all the way 8)
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on March 18, 2010, 02:49:10 PM
This topic again. ::)
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Paul on March 18, 2010, 02:49:34 PM
Cant decide so fuck you, you should be banned  ;D

Nah it really depends what mood I'm in. If I'm chilling - The Chronic, if I'm drunk - 2001
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Jome on March 18, 2010, 02:50:33 PM
2001, but you should have left out option 3, it very might well come out on top, and you know what that means!

Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: the ghost on March 18, 2010, 02:52:54 PM
The chronic.  When that shit dropped it was larger than life.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Invincible on March 18, 2010, 02:54:46 PM
Can't choose so I chose 'Fuck Okka, he should be banned'
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: white Boy on March 18, 2010, 02:58:02 PM
really?
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on March 18, 2010, 03:00:26 PM
Chronic................barely
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Fresh Bone on March 18, 2010, 03:01:58 PM
The Chronic - 100%.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: westsiderider323 on March 18, 2010, 03:05:29 PM
chronic  8)
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Prof@ssor on March 18, 2010, 03:11:17 PM
2001 aaaall the way
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Mista Rosa on March 18, 2010, 03:13:49 PM
Can't choose so I chose 'Fuck Okka, he should be banned'

 ;D
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Suga Foot on March 18, 2010, 03:14:38 PM
The Chronic; not so much for the content, but for what it did, and how timely it was.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: West Coast Veteran on March 18, 2010, 03:18:35 PM
The Chronic... just damn... I was in L.A. at the time of the release... the shit was just an unbelievable feeling... you were so proud to be from the West Coast... the dickies, the ben davis, the chucks, the flannels... best time of my life hands down...
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 18, 2010, 05:28:58 PM
2001 aaaall the way
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Gamestarr on March 18, 2010, 05:54:32 PM
2001 easy. the only flawless album in history!
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 18, 2010, 05:57:45 PM
voted 2001 because i prefer Dre's 2001 beats.

but The Chronic is a masterpiece and a certified classic. 8)
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: The Ultimate Pianist on March 18, 2010, 07:01:53 PM
2001. but it all depends on the mood, but if I had to choose, 2001 just because i wasnt old enough to truly appreciate Chronic and witness the way it moved the masses. Where as for 2001, that shit changed the way i listen to music lol.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: StevenQBosell on March 18, 2010, 08:09:46 PM
The chronic.  When that shit dropped it was larger than life.

The Chronic... just damn... I was in L.A. at the time of the release... the shit was just an unbelievable feeling... you were so proud to be from the West Coast... the dickies, the ben davis, the chucks, the flannels... best time of my life hands down...
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: jaytee on March 18, 2010, 08:10:15 PM
The Chronic  8)

You can usually tell how old someone is or when they got into Hip-Hop by which album they choose.  I'm not saying that's always the case, but it usually is.  

The original Chronic started a movement for the West Coast and G-Funk.  If you were from the West Coast, you were getting major label deals, nationwide radio and video play.  Nowadays, a West Coast artist can't even get play in their own backyard.  If a person wasn't around to experience the vibe of the time, then they probably wouldn't even understand.  Some guys know their history despite it being before their time, but it's nothing like living it and seeing it develop and unfold right in front of you.  
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: StevenQBosell on March 18, 2010, 08:19:08 PM
The Chronic  8)

You can usually tell how old someone is or when they got into Hip-Hop by which album they choose.  I'm not saying that's always the case, but it usually is.  

The original Chronic started a movement for the West Coast and G-Funk.  If you were from the West Coast, you were getting major label deals, nationwide radio and video play.  Nowadays, a West Coast artist can't even get play in their own backyard.  If a person wasn't around to experience the vibe of the time, then they probably wouldn't even understand.  Some guys know their history despite it being before their time, but it's nothing like living it and seeing it develop and unfold right in front of you.  

+1. Encapsulates it perfectly.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on March 18, 2010, 09:28:05 PM
The Chronic... just damn... I was in L.A. at the time of the release... the shit was just an unbelievable feeling... you were so proud to be from the West Coast... the dickies, the ben davis, the chucks, the flannels... best time of my life hands down...

i feel u on this 1,000 it was the best time in the westcoast ever except when ice t & nwa started out though....  ;) there was so much unity back then on the westcoast niggaz did musik back then cause that was their only way outta their situations so they did it with true love for it, now it's how many points on their contracts they start wit or how many ringtones they sold this week n all that...   
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: West Coast Veteran on March 18, 2010, 09:43:20 PM
^^^ Word.

The two most important events for the West Coast was Straight Outta Compton and The Chronic. Both shaped West Coast CULTURE not just the music.

When 2001 dropped I didn't feel that IMPACT that those two albums had, I lived and experienced the impact of all those albums. 2001 was just a classic album but it didn't affect the West as movement.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on March 18, 2010, 09:49:27 PM
^^^ Word.

The two most important events for the West Coast was Straight Outta Compton and The Chronic. Both shaped West Coast CULTURE not just the music.

When 2001 dropped I didn't feel that IMPACT that those two albums had, I lived and experienced the impact of all those albums. 2001 was just a classic album but it didn't affect the West as movement.

actually when nwa & the posse & eazy duz it came out i felt the almost the same type of vibe as well but straight outta compton set it off lovely. i use to live out there til 4 years ago so i lived it as well homie...another time when shyt got hectic was when amerikka's most wanted by cube dropped remember that one...when cube & nwa split up there was smoke in the air on the westcoast haha.... ;)  n when niggaz4life dropped damn that shyt was major 2..
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 18, 2010, 09:52:01 PM
The Chronic easy, it was revolutionary. 2001 was great and had better production but the Chronic is just a way better album, Lil' Half Dead was a legend off this album without ever saying a word yet, RBX is know for a couple of lines and Nate debuted with one of the greatest hooks ever on Deez Nuttz. 2001 has Xxplosive and Next Episode, but it just doesn't have that stand out moment that made someone new like Hittman or those dudes on LA Niggaz a legend. Still a straight classic album and it showed Dr. Dre was by far the greatest producer ever, but Chronic it seemed so many people shined.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: acgrundy on March 19, 2010, 12:28:41 AM
the og of course.  Revolutionary.  Introduced some of my all time favorite rappers.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Mietek23 on March 19, 2010, 01:13:03 AM
I choose option nr 3, lol 8)













Nah, I'm just fuckin' around wit' cha - THE CHRONIC hands fuckin' down!
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Fatdodger on March 19, 2010, 01:18:37 AM
2001 aaaall the way

yeah me too
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Dre-Day on March 19, 2010, 04:15:18 AM
 :sign_banhim:
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: The Ultimate Pianist on March 19, 2010, 05:40:42 AM
:sign_banhim:

lol, which one you like better homie ?
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Dre-Day on March 19, 2010, 05:56:45 AM
i can't choose, i would have to flip a coin ;)
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 19, 2010, 06:14:53 AM
1.SO YOUR STILL CHOOSIN
2WHAT IF THE COIN IS WRONG? lol




i can't choose, i would have to flip a coin ;)
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: ikke on March 19, 2010, 06:15:43 AM
The chronic, No album is better produced.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 19, 2010, 09:14:44 AM
ugh, i don't care if you guys pick The Chronic, but PLEASE don't say "it was revolutionary, it set trends, blah, blah, blah". :puke:

that is the most faggot argument i've ever heard.

basically what you're saying is the first hip hop album ever is the greatest album of all time, because it was "revolutionary".

i see some of you guys rate albums on impact & shit & that's just fucking dumb; music is music, if it's great it's great; you can't compare albums based on "impact".

what you're saying is that there can never be another classic Hip Hop album, because we've seen it all, nothing can be new or "revolutionary" if it's been done the last twenty-five years.

give me a break people. :grumpy:
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: West Coast Veteran on March 19, 2010, 09:42:08 AM
^^^

you're an idiot... impact plays a big part on what distinguishes a classic from a personal classic.. quality, innovation and impact = classic, understand faggot?
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Dre-Day on March 19, 2010, 10:34:08 AM
calm down, Cham has a point actually.

this topic is about personal opinions

1.SO YOUR STILL CHOOSIN
2WHAT IF THE COIN IS WRONG? lol




i can't choose, i would have to flip a coin ;)

i'll just use a coin with equal sides :laugh:
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Paul on March 19, 2010, 02:00:57 PM
^^^

you're an idiot... impact plays a big part on what distinguishes a classic from a personal classic.. quality, innovation and impact = classic, understand faggot?

The question is what do YOU prefer. Not what made the biggest impact.

And dont get offensive.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Get It Off Ya Chest on March 19, 2010, 02:08:56 PM
damn, all this nostalgic talk about The Chronic makes me wish i was there at that time so much :laugh:
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: ikke on March 19, 2010, 03:48:02 PM
ugh, i don't care if you guys pick The Chronic, but PLEASE don't say "it was revolutionary, it set trends, blah, blah, blah". :puke:

that is the most faggot argument i've ever heard.

basically what you're saying is the first hip hop album ever is the greatest album of all time, because it was "revolutionary".

i see some of you guys rate albums on impact & shit & that's just fucking dumb; music is music, if it's great it's great; you can't compare albums based on "impact".

what you're saying is that there can never be another classic Hip Hop album, because we've seen it all, nothing can be new or "revolutionary" if it's been done the last twenty-five years.

give me a break people. :grumpy:
impact = more similar music from different artists inspired by the original album.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: StevenQBosell on March 19, 2010, 03:49:55 PM
ugh, i don't care if you guys pick The Chronic, but PLEASE don't say "it was revolutionary, it set trends, blah, blah, blah". :puke:

that is the most faggot argument i've ever heard.

basically what you're saying is the first hip hop album ever is the greatest album of all time, because it was "revolutionary".

i see some of you guys rate albums on impact & shit & that's just fucking dumb; music is music, if it's great it's great; you can't compare albums based on "impact".

what you're saying is that there can never be another classic Hip Hop album, because we've seen it all, nothing can be new or "revolutionary" if it's been done the last twenty-five years.

give me a break people. :grumpy:

I can see how someone can say that, unless they were actually there, and living it in real time, as opposed to reading about someone elses experience. And it's not to say "there will never be another revolution" like Chronic '92...
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on March 19, 2010, 03:56:53 PM
ugh, i don't care if you guys pick The Chronic, but PLEASE don't say "it was revolutionary, it set trends, blah, blah, blah". :puke:

that is the most faggot argument i've ever heard.

basically what you're saying is the first hip hop album ever is the greatest album of all time, because it was "revolutionary".

i see some of you guys rate albums on impact & shit & that's just fucking dumb; music is music, if it's great it's great; you can't compare albums based on "impact".

what you're saying is that there can never be another classic Hip Hop album, because we've seen it all, nothing can be new or "revolutionary" if it's been done the last twenty-five years.

give me a break people. :grumpy:

I can see how someone can say that, unless they were actually there, and living it in real time, as opposed to reading about someone elses experience. And it's not to say "there will never be another revolution" like Chronic '92...

times have changed, there will never be another era like that again.... 
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: ikke on March 19, 2010, 04:02:59 PM
ugh, i don't care if you guys pick The Chronic, but PLEASE don't say "it was revolutionary, it set trends, blah, blah, blah". :puke:

that is the most faggot argument i've ever heard.

basically what you're saying is the first hip hop album ever is the greatest album of all time, because it was "revolutionary".

i see some of you guys rate albums on impact & shit & that's just fucking dumb; music is music, if it's great it's great; you can't compare albums based on "impact".

what you're saying is that there can never be another classic Hip Hop album, because we've seen it all, nothing can be new or "revolutionary" if it's been done the last twenty-five years.

give me a break people. :grumpy:

I can see how someone can say that, unless they were actually there, and living it in real time, as opposed to reading about someone elses experience. And it's not to say "there will never be another revolution" like Chronic '92...

times have changed, there will never be another era like that again.... 
there will, just not in the sub-genre you people worship.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Beats By dre on March 19, 2010, 04:04:04 PM
The Chronic put the westcoast rap funk  on the map, but still the best one will come out....detox  8)
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 19, 2010, 04:13:50 PM
ugh, i don't care if you guys pick The Chronic, but PLEASE don't say "it was revolutionary, it set trends, blah, blah, blah". :puke:

that is the most faggot argument i've ever heard.

basically what you're saying is the first hip hop album ever is the greatest album of all time, because it was "revolutionary".

i see some of you guys rate albums on impact & shit & that's just fucking dumb; music is music, if it's great it's great; you can't compare albums based on "impact".

what you're saying is that there can never be another classic Hip Hop album, because we've seen it all, nothing can be new or "revolutionary" if it's been done the last twenty-five years.

give me a break people. :grumpy:

I can see how someone can say that, unless they were actually there, and living it in real time, as opposed to reading about someone elses experience. And it's not to say "there will never be another revolution" like Chronic '92...

times have changed, there will never be another era like that again.... 

that's what i'm saying, you're basically saying that all those albums from the '90's are untouchable & NOTHING, can possibly be on that level.

Eminem is the last one to have "major impact" & that's only because he was an insane spitter, worked with Dre & most importantly, was white.

after Em, there isn't anybody who people we're just like, "omg, that's a certified classic fucking album, top albums ever."

nothing is better than a Wu-Tang album because it had more "impact" than anything in the last decade? get the fuck outta here..

^^^

you're an idiot... impact plays a big part on what distinguishes a classic from a personal classic.. quality, innovation and impact = classic, understand faggot?

no lol, that's my point; quality should be the only thing judged when it's compaing great albums or else we're going to be saying for the next 100 years Illmatic & The Chronic are the two best albums of all time & it's not debateable.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: StevenQBosell on March 19, 2010, 06:07:06 PM
^^^

Thing is though, just like jaytee said;

...If a person wasn't around to experience the vibe of the time, then they probably wouldn't even understand....

it's easy to dismiss how much influence it had on hip hop, if you weren't around to see it unfold in front of you.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 19, 2010, 06:14:10 PM
true but you can look back and try and imagine i guess...thats the best that can be done when your past that....lol
2001 is still......i mean still dre is one of the best songs ever.....and no jay-z writin it had nuthin to do wit the muzik part of it...lol
and of course a better album can be made than one of the best albums of all time...just hasnt been done yet.....


^^^

Thing is though, just like jaytee said;

...If a person wasn't around to experience the vibe of the time, then they probably wouldn't even understand....

it's easy to dismiss how much influence it had on hip hop, if you weren't around to see it unfold in front of you.

Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on March 19, 2010, 06:14:32 PM
The chronic, reasons already been explained by many posters though 2001 did have some of my favourite joints on it like still dre, next episode etc...

and props to westcoast veteran for spitting truth
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on March 19, 2010, 06:15:12 PM
ugh, i don't care if you guys pick The Chronic, but PLEASE don't say "it was revolutionary, it set trends, blah, blah, blah". :puke:

that is the most faggot argument i've ever heard.

basically what you're saying is the first hip hop album ever is the greatest album of all time, because it was "revolutionary".

i see some of you guys rate albums on impact & shit & that's just fucking dumb; music is music, if it's great it's great; you can't compare albums based on "impact".

what you're saying is that there can never be another classic Hip Hop album, because we've seen it all, nothing can be new or "revolutionary" if it's been done the last twenty-five years.

give me a break people. :grumpy:


Award for the dumbest post of this thread should be given to you.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 19, 2010, 06:34:47 PM
^^^

Thing is though, just like jaytee said;

...If a person wasn't around to experience the vibe of the time, then they probably wouldn't even understand....

it's easy to dismiss how much influence it had on hip hop, if you weren't around to see it unfold in front of you.


lol, way to put words in my mouth.

i never said it didn't have impact, i never denied how influencial it was.

but that doesn't label it the greatest album of all time.

look at College Dropout, classic album; wasn't "super influencial", wasn't "revolutionary", just a classic album.

ugh, i don't care if you guys pick The Chronic, but PLEASE don't say "it was revolutionary, it set trends, blah, blah, blah". :puke:

that is the most faggot argument i've ever heard.

basically what you're saying is the first hip hop album ever is the greatest album of all time, because it was "revolutionary".

i see some of you guys rate albums on impact & shit & that's just fucking dumb; music is music, if it's great it's great; you can't compare albums based on "impact".

what you're saying is that there can never be another classic Hip Hop album, because we've seen it all, nothing can be new or "revolutionary" if it's been done the last twenty-five years.

give me a break people. :grumpy:


Award for the dumbest post of this thread should be given to you.

just stop living in the past & accept todays music.

the way you guys sound, you just co-sign the older CD because clearly that has more "impact" when it was still a fairly new genre back then.

any coincidence like i said, Eminem is the last person to make a significant classic album with actual impact? it was basically the only thing the game hadn't seen, a white boy.

you mean to tell me 10 years go by & nobody dropped anything classic enough to be put in the conversation with older albums?

i'd personally like to welcome all of you to the 21st century.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 19, 2010, 06:57:45 PM
good lookin for the welcome cham...lol
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 19, 2010, 07:50:24 PM
good lookin for the welcome cham...lol

anytime, fam. ;) 8)
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 19, 2010, 07:51:12 PM
but the 2001 sound is doper....lol



good lookin for the welcome cham...lol

anytime, fam. ;) 8)
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 19, 2010, 07:55:30 PM
but the 2001 sound is doper....lol



good lookin for the welcome cham...lol

anytime, fam. ;) 8)

i agree with you lol.

i'm not saying you can't be a fan of The Chronic or older music, i'm not trying to shoot it down.

but when i hear arguments like "well clearly this album 1 is better than album 2 because album 1 had more impact", i just shake my head lol.

well what happens when album 2 is better lyrically, better production, etc.? lol.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on March 19, 2010, 07:59:03 PM
yeah IMO chronic is better to many cuz of when it came out and what it meant and did to and for hip-hop but overall 2001 is a doper album IMO
the 2001 sound still lives or people want more of that vs more of chronic




but the 2001 sound is doper....lol



good lookin for the welcome cham...lol

anytime, fam. ;) 8)

i agree with you lol.

i'm not saying you can't be a fan of The Chronic or older music, i'm not trying to shoot it down.

but when i hear arguments like "well clearly this album 1 is better than album 2 because album 1 had more impact", i just shake my head lol.

well what happens when album 2 is better lyrically, better production, etc.? lol.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Nutty on March 19, 2010, 10:27:53 PM
The chronic.  When that shit dropped it was larger than life.

^ This.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on March 19, 2010, 11:26:45 PM
^^^

Thing is though, just like jaytee said;

...If a person wasn't around to experience the vibe of the time, then they probably wouldn't even understand....

it's easy to dismiss how much influence it had on hip hop, if you weren't around to see it unfold in front of you.


lol, way to put words in my mouth.

i never said it didn't have impact, i never denied how influencial it was.

but that doesn't label it the greatest album of all time.

look at College Dropout, classic album; wasn't "super influencial", wasn't "revolutionary", just a classic album.

ugh, i don't care if you guys pick The Chronic, but PLEASE don't say "it was revolutionary, it set trends, blah, blah, blah". :puke:

that is the most faggot argument i've ever heard.

basically what you're saying is the first hip hop album ever is the greatest album of all time, because it was "revolutionary".

i see some of you guys rate albums on impact & shit & that's just fucking dumb; music is music, if it's great it's great; you can't compare albums based on "impact".

what you're saying is that there can never be another classic Hip Hop album, because we've seen it all, nothing can be new or "revolutionary" if it's been done the last twenty-five years.

give me a break people. :grumpy:


Award for the dumbest post of this thread should be given to you.

just stop living in the past & accept todays music.

the way you guys sound, you just co-sign the older CD because clearly that has more "impact" when it was still a fairly new genre back then.

any coincidence like i said, Eminem is the last person to make a significant classic album with actual impact? it was basically the only thing the game hadn't seen, a white boy.

you mean to tell me 10 years go by & nobody dropped anything classic enough to be put in the conversation with older albums?

i'd personally like to welcome all of you to the 21st century.

Lmao....Kids ;)
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: acgrundy on March 20, 2010, 12:13:31 AM
how old are you chamilitary?
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: West Coast Veteran on March 20, 2010, 12:25:09 AM
^^^

you're an idiot... impact plays a big part on what distinguishes a classic from a personal classic.. quality, innovation and impact = classic, understand faggot?

The question is what do YOU prefer. Not what made the biggest impact.

And dont get offensive.

i only got offensive because cham somewhat called me a faggot with that "impact is a faggot response" quote. he's a cool poster..
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 20, 2010, 06:15:53 AM
^^^

you're an idiot... impact plays a big part on what distinguishes a classic from a personal classic.. quality, innovation and impact = classic, understand faggot?

The question is what do YOU prefer. Not what made the biggest impact.

And dont get offensive.

i only got offensive because cham somewhat called me a faggot with that "impact is a faggot response" quote. he's a cool poster..

na, my mans, i was just speaking in general.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 20, 2010, 06:21:49 AM
how old are you chamilitary?

18, but before you go anywhere with that you BEST be at least 30; even that is young.

there is absolutely no chance that you were 12 years old & understood the times, the scene & the impact that The Chronic had on people, it's just music to anyone at that age.

so make your move, champ..
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Matty on March 20, 2010, 06:27:03 AM
wasn't anywhere old enough to appreciate the original chronic when it came out and had an impact. i can appreciate it as a classic album though, way ahead of its time, very smooth and musical, expertly produced 8)

but if i had to choose which one to bump, the one with the most personal meaning....2001...
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: midwestryder on March 20, 2010, 01:52:18 PM
ugh, i don't care if you guys pick The Chronic, but PLEASE don't say "it was revolutionary, it set trends, blah, blah, blah". :puke:

that is the most faggot argument i've ever heard.

basically what you're saying is the first hip hop album ever is the greatest album of all time, because it was "revolutionary".

i see some of you guys rate albums on impact & shit & that's just fucking dumb; music is music, if it's great it's great; you can't compare albums based on "impact".

what you're saying is that there can never be another classic Hip Hop album, because we've seen it all, nothing can be new or "revolutionary" if it's been done the last twenty-five years.

give me a break people. :grumpy:

I can see how someone can say that, unless they were actually there, and living it in real time, as opposed to reading about someone elses experience. And it's not to say "there will never be another revolution" like Chronic '92...

times have changed, there will never be another era like that again.... 

that's what i'm saying, you're basically saying that all those albums from the '90's are untouchable & NOTHING, can possibly be on that level.

Eminem is the last one to have "major impact" & that's only because he was an insane spitter, worked with Dre & most importantly, was white.

after Em, there isn't anybody who people we're just like, "omg, that's a certified classic fucking album, top albums ever."

nothing is better than a Wu-Tang album because it had more "impact" than anything in the last decade? get the fuck outta here..

^^^

you're an idiot... impact plays a big part on what distinguishes a classic from a personal classic.. quality, innovation and impact = classic, understand faggot?

no lol, that's my point; quality should be the only thing judged when it's compaing great albums or else we're going to be saying for the next 100 years Illmatic & The Chronic are the two best albums of all time & it's not debateable.
sorry , Chamillitary Click  but any hip hop or rap album from 80's to 1997 is untouchable & better  hen anything after 1997 & on . so it is not debateable ,new school. also quality of hip hop & rap went to zero after 1997 .. seee only good quality was from the 80's to 1997 . everything after is crap compared to 80's to 1997.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: J$crILLa on March 20, 2010, 01:54:49 PM
chronic but it is very close
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Get It Off Ya Chest on March 20, 2010, 02:39:56 PM
sorry , Chamillitary Click  but any hip hop or rap album from 80's to 1997 is untouchable & better  hen anything after 1997 & on . so it is not debateable ,new school. also quality of hip hop & rap went to zero after 1997 .. seee only good quality was from the 80's to 1997 . everything after is crap compared to 80's to 1997.

nah, THIS has to be the dumbest post of the thread. that is an extreme example of generalising. just because someone dropped an album pre-97, it's better than post? please. 2001 shits on a lot of 90's albums
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: StevenQBosell on March 20, 2010, 03:16:24 PM
how old are you chamilitary?

18, but before you go anywhere with that you BEST be at least 30; even that is young.

there is absolutely no chance that you were 12 years old & understood the times, the scene & the impact that The Chronic had on people, it's just music to anyone at that age.

so make your move, champ..

You have to remember, we weren't living in vacuums, you really had to be there to see everyone under the age of 25 bumping the Chronic EVERYWHERE you went, I swear to God it seemed like I was the only person without the "weed leaf" necklace, those were everytwhere, hearing your older brother, sisters and cousins flippiing out over the Chronic, particularly out here on the west coast, in L.A. Lek another poster said, this was the album that put the west on the map, and you knew that was going to be the case from the very 1st listen.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 20, 2010, 03:39:20 PM
ugh, i don't care if you guys pick The Chronic, but PLEASE don't say "it was revolutionary, it set trends, blah, blah, blah". :puke:

that is the most faggot argument i've ever heard.

basically what you're saying is the first hip hop album ever is the greatest album of all time, because it was "revolutionary".

i see some of you guys rate albums on impact & shit & that's just fucking dumb; music is music, if it's great it's great; you can't compare albums based on "impact".

what you're saying is that there can never be another classic Hip Hop album, because we've seen it all, nothing can be new or "revolutionary" if it's been done the last twenty-five years.

give me a break people. :grumpy:

I can see how someone can say that, unless they were actually there, and living it in real time, as opposed to reading about someone elses experience. And it's not to say "there will never be another revolution" like Chronic '92...

times have changed, there will never be another era like that again.... 

that's what i'm saying, you're basically saying that all those albums from the '90's are untouchable & NOTHING, can possibly be on that level.

Eminem is the last one to have "major impact" & that's only because he was an insane spitter, worked with Dre & most importantly, was white.

after Em, there isn't anybody who people we're just like, "omg, that's a certified classic fucking album, top albums ever."

nothing is better than a Wu-Tang album because it had more "impact" than anything in the last decade? get the fuck outta here..

^^^

you're an idiot... impact plays a big part on what distinguishes a classic from a personal classic.. quality, innovation and impact = classic, understand faggot?

no lol, that's my point; quality should be the only thing judged when it's compaing great albums or else we're going to be saying for the next 100 years Illmatic & The Chronic are the two best albums of all time & it's not debateable.
sorry , Chamillitary Click  but any hip hop or rap album from 80's to 1997 is untouchable & better  hen anything after 1997 & on . so it is not debateable ,new school. also quality of hip hop & rap went to zero after 1997 .. seee only good quality was from the 80's to 1997 . everything after is crap compared to 80's to 1997.

ahh, point proven lol.

anyway, The Marshall Mathers LP makes my list of top albums any day of the year. 8)
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 20, 2010, 03:50:47 PM
how old are you chamilitary?

18, but before you go anywhere with that you BEST be at least 30; even that is young.

there is absolutely no chance that you were 12 years old & understood the times, the scene & the impact that The Chronic had on people, it's just music to anyone at that age.

so make your move, champ..

You have to remember, we weren't living in vacuums, you really had to be there to see everyone under the age of 25 bumping the Chronic EVERYWHERE you went, I swear to God it seemed like I was the only person without the "weed leaf" necklace, those were everytwhere, hearing your older brother, sisters and cousins flippiing out over the Chronic, particularly out here on the west coast, in L.A. Lek another poster said, this was the album that put the west on the map, and you knew that was going to be the case from the very 1st listen.

if you were younger than 13, i'm sorry, but i simply cannot believe you had any relative clue what was going on.

i'm not saying you didn't listen to the music or you didn't love the music, but you didn't get some of the lines & you didn't understand it like you would if you were 15-16.

regardless of all of that, just because it turned people on to smoking Chronic & people wore Chronic Leaf necklaces, how is that relative to the music?

when Soulja Boy made Crank That worldwide & saw people dancing like that anywhere you went or T-Pain making everybody want to use/hear autotune all the time, how was the music? i don't see you guys jumping on that "impact" calling it legendary & classic..

point being, "impact" doesn't equal quality of music; & before some of you jump on me for it, i'm not dissing The Chronic at all, one of the greatest albums ever, but i feel that because of the music on the disc, not because of how the world reacted to it.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: acgrundy on March 20, 2010, 05:29:39 PM
how old are you chamilitary?

18, but before you go anywhere with that you BEST be at least 30; even that is young.

there is absolutely no chance that you were 12 years old & understood the times, the scene & the impact that The Chronic had on people, it's just music to anyone at that age.

so make your move, champ..

I AM 30.  Now I 100% fully understand the foolishness that you speak.  Do yourself a favor and just stop saying the things that you have to say.  Seriously man, nothing against you, but you sound like a fucking moron.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: DJSpin on March 20, 2010, 05:50:05 PM
instead of arguing about impact and how old we all are, just go listen to both cds back to back and then come back and let us know which one you enjoyed more.   let's stop the faggotry
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Nutty on March 20, 2010, 05:52:57 PM
how old are you chamilitary?

18, but before you go anywhere with that you BEST be at least 30; even that is young.

there is absolutely no chance that you were 12 years old & understood the times, the scene & the impact that The Chronic had on people, it's just music to anyone at that age.

so make your move, champ..

I AM 30.  Now I 100% fully understand the foolishness that you speak.  Do yourself a favor and just stop saying the things that you have to say.  Seriously man, nothing against you, but you sound like a fucking moron.

^ Good times aye AC? Think I still have my dubbed tape of the Chronic lying around somewhere.
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: acgrundy on March 20, 2010, 05:59:23 PM
how old are you chamilitary?

18, but before you go anywhere with that you BEST be at least 30; even that is young.

there is absolutely no chance that you were 12 years old & understood the times, the scene & the impact that The Chronic had on people, it's just music to anyone at that age.

so make your move, champ..

I AM 30.  Now I 100% fully understand the foolishness that you speak.  Do yourself a favor and just stop saying the things that you have to say.  Seriously man, nothing against you, but you sound like a fucking moron.

^ Good times aye AC? Think I still have my dubbed tape of the Chronic lying around somewhere.

When Cham was 12, he probably didn't even know what a dubbed tape was. 
Title: Re: The Chronic or 2001
Post by: Jome on March 20, 2010, 07:43:25 PM
Locking this, well played out topic, doesn't lead anywhere.