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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: MR X To Tha Z on March 23, 2010, 08:55:50 AM
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Game said he got just about everybody he wanted for his upcoming The R.E.D. Album — he has some of the finest tracks featuring guests from all over the hip-hop hemisphere.
"I feel great about this album," he said recently after going over tracks at Dr. Dre's house. "It's back full-force Aftermath and I'm conjoined with Star Trak." (Pharrell Williams is one of the LP's executive producers.) "I got this colorful movement over here where it's beautiful music on this side [with Star Trak] — then when I need to go dark or super grown and sexy, I got Dre over here. The combination is crazy — mixed in with a Cool & Dre track and RZA track and all the sh-- I been doing. The only person I'm upset I didn't work with on this album is DJ Premier. I feel his sh-- would have been perfect for this all-star producer cast that I have. One Premier track would have did me just fine. I would have murdered that sh--. But we ain't get it in, 'cause he was doing a whole bunch of sh-- for Christina Aguilera. I'm just Game. So I gotta just wait for the next album."
The Compton MC said he lets the fans know from the start of the album that he's not playing.
"They got the intro to the album, which is titled 'Infrared,' " Game said of Cool & Dre. "It's one of them joints that Shaheem is gonna love. All the real hip-hop fans, to hear me rap, how I'm rapping on my intro, it's gonna f--- people up. Before you get to #2, you gonna already know I'm serious. I'm spitting. I go in. I done played this for RZA, Dre, Pharrell — all the people who heard this is like, 'N---a, that's crazy!' I haven't spit like I'm spitting on the intro since '300 Bars.' I touched every topic. Everything involving me, I touched."
We'll get a prelude to Game's work with Cool & Dre on a song called "Shake," as it's one of the highlights on his upcoming Gangsta Grillz mixtape with DJ Drama, All Red Everything. Game tells a mayhem-filled story over the beat that incorporates the looped word "shake" throughout.
" 'Shake' is bad, man," Game said. " 'Shake' is crazy. Cool & Dre brought it in and I went through the 'shakes.' I told the story, cutting myself off right before the 'shake' came in [on the track]. I didn't write none of that down. I went in and said the whole sh-- straight through.
"You know what it is about them?" he asked about Cool & Dre. "They are more like my brothers. I can go in with the any moment and make a song. The streets is gonna f--- with it."
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wonder when its coming out ???
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wonder when its coming out ???
hpoefully by the end of the fucking year!
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wonder when its coming out ???
when jimmy says shake
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lol dre day you a fool....march 23 is the release date... ;D
wonder when its coming out ???
when jimmy says shake
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i don't understand the hype behind an album without a single & the most recent things we've heard from Game have been below average. ???
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way below.......dont give him credit for that wack shake shit...horrible song
i don't understand the hype behind an album without a single & the most recent things we've heard from Game have been below average. ???
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way below.......dont give him credit for that wack shake shit...horrible song
i don't understand the hype behind an album without a single & the most recent things we've heard from Game have been below average. ???
it really is pretty awful, but yet people on here are waiting on this album like it's going to change the game.
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lol
way below.......dont give him credit for that wack shake shit...horrible song
i don't understand the hype behind an album without a single & the most recent things we've heard from Game have been below average. ???
it really is pretty awful, but yet people on here are waiting on this album like it's going to change the game.
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doubt dre gave him any 'outta control remix' level joints anyway :-X something as good as 'how we do' or 'westside story' would be straight though.
you...know...i...got...what it takes to make the club go outta control 8)
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yeah some even doubt dre can make somethin as dope as outta control anymore...lol
but westside story and higher>>>>.how we do by miles
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wonder when its coming out ???
when jimmy says shake
LOL
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yeah some even doubt dre can make somethin as dope as outta control anymore...lol
but westside story and higher>>>>.how we do by miles
Imo some of the beats on Relapse were better than Outta Control Remix. That's just my opinion though.
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examples? lol
yeah some even doubt dre can make somethin as dope as outta control anymore...lol
but westside story and higher>>>>.how we do by miles
Imo some of the beats on Relapse were better than Outta Control Remix. That's just my opinion though.
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yeah some even doubt dre can make somethin as dope as outta control anymore...lol
but westside story and higher>>>>.how we do by miles
'higher' wasn't as nice as 'how we do', not by a long way :P
'get up' on the other hand 8)
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yeah some even doubt dre can make somethin as dope as outta control anymore...lol
but westside story and higher>>>>.how we do by miles
Imo some of the beats on Relapse were better than Outta Control Remix. That's just my opinion though.
the production on relapse was really advanced for sure, but the musical direction not so much. pretty corny on the whole.
'outta control remix' is straight crispy gangsta-funk-chill, EXACTLY what i want to hear 8)
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higher>>>>>>>how we do
westside story >>>>>how we do
get up>>>>how we do
get up>>>.westside story (close call)
get up>>>higher (not by much)
yeah some even doubt dre can make somethin as dope as outta control anymore...lol
but westside story and higher>>>>.how we do by miles
'higher' wasn't as nice as 'how we do', not by a long way :P
'get up' on the other hand 8)
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examples? lol
yeah some even doubt dre can make somethin as dope as outta control anymore...lol
but westside story and higher>>>>.how we do by miles
Imo some of the beats on Relapse were better than Outta Control Remix. That's just my opinion though.
Bagpipes From Baghdad beat was very good. Too bad that the content ruined that song. Hello, Same Song & Dance & Stay Wide Awake were dope. But like I said that's just my opinion. Lot of the beats followed the same theme which made Relapse's overall production good imo. And the beats fitted the style Eminem used well, but content ruined it so much that it wasn't really good album.
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The annoying thing about Game not getting a Premo beat is that none of the work that Premier did with Christina is gonna make her album. That fucking sucks. Would of been cool hearing Game over a boom bap beat.
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The annoying thing about Game not getting a Premo beat is that none of the work that Premier did with Christina is gonna make her album. That fucking sucks. Would of been cool hearing Game over a boom bap beat.
really?
i agree game would sound great over a premo beat. alternatively, he might be even better on something from easy mo bee or pete rock 8)
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The annoying thing about Game not getting a Premo beat is that none of the work that Premier did with Christina is gonna make her album. That fucking sucks. Would of been cool hearing Game over a boom bap beat.
really?
i agree game would sound great over a premo beat. alternatively, he might be even better on something from easy mo bee or pete rock 8)
For real. I think we will get to hear them. I think she said that she'll put them on soundtracks or something. But that won't make up for no Premo beat on this album.
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The annoying thing about Game not getting a Premo beat is that none of the work that Premier did with Christina is gonna make her album. That fucking sucks. Would of been cool hearing Game over a boom bap beat.
really?
i agree game would sound great over a premo beat. alternatively, he might be even better on something from easy mo bee or pete rock 8)
For real. I think we will get to hear them. I think she said that she'll put them on soundtracks or something. But that won't make up for no Premo beat on this album.
hmm can't say i'm really up to date with premier's dealings. the tracks he did for christina before were super nice...'still dirty' was a classic gang starr style beat 8)
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way below.......dont give him credit for that wack shake shit...horrible song
i don't understand the hype behind an album without a single & the most recent things we've heard from Game have been below average. ???
it really is pretty awful, but yet people on here are waiting on this album like it's going to change the game.
game is the closest thing to god that we're ever going to get
doubt dre gave him any 'outta control remix' level joints anyway :-X something as good as 'how we do' or 'westside story' would be straight though.
you...know...i...got...what it takes to make the club go outta control 8)
How We Do is decent at best.
future Dre club singles may be listenable, but it's not a great formula.
stick with the hard stuff
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way below.......dont give him credit for that wack shake shit...horrible song
i don't understand the hype behind an album without a single & the most recent things we've heard from Game have been below average. ???
salsa muzik ;D
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On one hand I dont understand the hype around this album on this forum because lax was an abortion of an album and game has gotten progressively worse each album.On the other hand,theirs not exactly a lot of westcoast albums being released these days so what else is their to look forward to?
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look thru the threads....thats exactly what i said......lol
good lookin ;)
way below.......dont give him credit for that wack shake shit...horrible song
i don't understand the hype behind an album without a single & the most recent things we've heard from Game have been below average. ???
salsa muzik ;D
damn this is why im startin to appreciate premo....beat is nice and GANGSTARR = GANGSTA.....when you said 'still dirty' was a classic gang starr style beat.....nah premo cant do no gang starr beat for a pop artist...but damn he came thru on some str8 gangsta shit for real...ima get this in the instrumental and bang it...good lookin
and at first i was thinkin you talkin about dirty...song wit redman...lol
The annoying thing about Game not getting a Premo beat is that none of the work that Premier did with Christina is gonna make her album. That fucking sucks. Would of been cool hearing Game over a boom bap beat.
really?
i agree game would sound great over a premo beat. alternatively, he might be even better on something from easy mo bee or pete rock 8)
For real. I think we will get to hear them. I think she said that she'll put them on soundtracks or something. But that won't make up for no Premo beat on this album.
hmm can't say i'm really up to date with premier's dealings. the tracks he did for christina before were super nice...'still dirty' was a classic gang starr style beat 8)
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yeah man i can imagine guru rapping over that beat in my head very clearly 8)
but christina still killed it as far as female vocals go 8)
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Guys do any of you have the interview or video of khalil saying that game track's RICKY is the next west coast anthem? I read it and it's pissing me off I don't remember where >_>
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next westcoast anthem...what was the last anthem? lol
mos def not one blood...lol
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next westcoast anthem...what was the last anthem? lol
mos def not one blood...lol
true that , but apparently this is his "best" track ever.
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aite so what do you think are his best traxx ever? lol
and if khalil produced it...maybe cuz khalil produced it not cuz game spit on it or wrote it...if he wrote it...lol
next westcoast anthem...what was the last anthem? lol
mos def not one blood...lol
true that , but apparently this is his "best" track ever.
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yeah some even doubt dre can make somethin as dope as outta control anymore...lol
but westside story and higher>>>>.how we do by miles
'higher' wasn't as nice as 'how we do', not by a long way :P
'get up' on the other hand 8)
Wow.
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get up was trash. this site is the only place ive seen give it positive reviews
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get up was trash. this site is the only place ive seen give it positive reviews
Get Up was on some next level shit beat wise. It's just that 50 didn't come up strong.
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anything Game & Dr Dre have done.. is and will most likely be allways dope.. hopefully theres a new chemisty... this album is definately going to be somthing special anyway
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yeah it was...and 50 didnt destroy it but still better than nuthin
get up was trash. this site is the only place ive seen give it positive reviews
Get Up was on some next level shit beat wise. It's just that 50 didn't come up strong.
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People don't heed when it is said Game is an east coast back ryder. Dude is practically an east coast artist. Where's one Wesctcoast producer on there other than Dre?
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i honestly haven't listened to Get Up in 2010 lol; i think when i watched the music video, that was the last time i heard it.
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aite where do you rank these tho
how we do
higher
westside story
get up (energy on this song is mad dope)
outta control remix (effex on this song are mad dope too)
i honestly haven't listened to Get Up in 2010 lol; i think when i watched the music video, that was the last time i heard it.
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whats so "next level" about the get up beat? it sounded like a generic club production with a repetitive melody, and 50 was weak on it to. the whole song is an abortion
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get up live version - sick! check for the extra guitar instrumentation at the end, reminds me of the outro on quik's fandango 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/c9wAjSybpQA
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On one hand I dont understand the hype around this album on this forum because lax was an abortion of an album and game has gotten progressively worse each album.On the other hand,theirs not exactly a lot of westcoast albums being released these days so what else is their to look forward to?
can see this album being a bit of a train wreck with no cohesion.
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Damn...hopefully he fucks wit Hi-Tek, Just Blaze and Primo....a Quik beat would be nice to but....it wont happen.
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damn matty...is there a official version of that get up one you upped?
as in how many different versions are there?
sounds cool...
have you heard it aint nuthin by cypress hill?
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damn matty...is there a official version of that get up one you upped?
as in how many different versions are there?
sounds cool...
have you heard it aint nuthin by cypress hill?
nah its just a live performance...its dope as hell though. thats the kind of live vibe i would of thought dre would be going for on detox 8)
and the cypress hill...nah...that went under the radar somehow...shit is dope!!! 8)
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yeah the instrumentals used in both get up and it aint nuthin are mad dope
damn matty...is there a official version of that get up one you upped?
as in how many different versions are there?
sounds cool...
have you heard it aint nuthin by cypress hill?
nah its just a live performance...its dope as hell though. thats the kind of live vibe i would of thought dre would be going for on detox 8)
and the cypress hill...nah...that went on the radar somehow...shit is dope!!! 8)
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aite where do you rank these tho
how we do
higher
westside story
get up (energy on this song is mad dope)
outta control remix (effex on this song are mad dope too)
in terms of the entire song; Outta Control Remix > Westside Story > Higher > How We Do > Outta Control OG > Get Up.
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whats so "next level" about the get up beat? it sounded like a generic club production with a repetitive melody, and 50 was weak on it to.
Yeah, for real. "Get Up" was weak. Only good thing about the song is the first sound when the song starts.
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ok my last post on 'get up'...the thing is it still sounds like a relative skeleton beat to me...considering the live version and how extra instruments were added in easily. but the drums are ridicolous - if dre can do something on that kinda energy but with more varied instrumentation....then 8)
i'm curious to hear what he has given game - if its the more crisp, live sounds with a dose of funk - what i would consider the real next level, or some generic relapse style leftovers...
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didnt read any posts but props on the name "dredolf hitler"
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How we do is mutherfuckin bangin! That shit was club/street music at its finest in 'recent' times. Both 50 and game killed that shit. Freshh liike UHHH...and the 50 lines be straight ballin, matty know wut up when it comes to how we do.
As for this album...cats cant understand the hype? lol...Dude back with dre, back with aftermath for first time since documentary, working with pharell, working with rza and the rest of them niggaz and he USUALLY comes correct on an album...2 outta three still...regardless of recent joints, the hype is easily understandable. get it? lol
This im looking forward to way more than albums like relapse 2. This shit better drop this summer! Thats when i predicted, i think it'll be out by then...i hope!
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i dont post much but I thought Id throw my opinion in the mix. To start I think the reason the hype for this album is getting bigger without even having a single to go from is because of the Game/Dre reunion. I am a Game fan and I think most of the Game fans will agree that ever since the split between Game and the Aftermath camp everyone has been waiting for a reunion between Game/Dre. Its been talked about for a long time and it has finally happened. That would explain some of the hype, I also think people are intrested to see what Game/Pharell have come up with, Now Pharell has been a big influence in many careers and has done some great things for some artists. I think people are getting hyped about this idea of Game/Pharell/Dre.
Think about it, Game has recieved criticism on his last two albums because of lack of direction and lack of content. Why? because he was in charge.This time he let Pharell/Dre take the reigns and give him direction and criticism, this will insure an album that is on par with the Documentary. Simply because he has real Producers as Executive Producers, which means it will flow properly and will be mixed properly. I trust in Dre's ability to mix an album down well, and Pharells ability to direct an artist on how appeal to the current market (not saying hes gonna sound like soulja Boy, dont take it out of context). also I wouldnt compare those tracks like How We Do and Higher, They both go hard and good tracks but they arent the same type of song Get Up is, Too different types of song shouldnt be compared. As far as I see it they are all good in their own way. Lets focus on whats to come. and to the people who been passing judgment based on the tracks Game has released so far, You guys dont get it. Game release bullshit music before his albums come out cause he is sitting on the tracks worth keeping, Hes not going to give you quality shit till the Album comes out and the quality leftovers will come out afterwards. but rightnow its going to be just the bullshit fucking around music. this is his usual M.O.
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How we do is mutherfuckin bangin! That shit was club/street music at its finest in 'recent' times. Both 50 and game killed that shit. Freshh liike UHHH...and the 50 lines be straight ballin, matty know wut up when it comes to how we do.
As for this album...cats cant understand the hype? lol...Dude back with dre, back with aftermath for first time since documentary, working with pharell, working with rza and the rest of them niggaz and he USUALLY comes correct on an album...2 outta three still...regardless of recent joints, the hype is easily understandable. get it? lol
This im looking forward to way more than albums like relapse 2. This shit better drop this summer! Thats when i predicted, i think it'll be out by then...i hope!
word, 'how we do' is just a classic club track. gangsta-pop crossover at its finest, trademark dre. launched game's career like 'in da club' did for 50. i'm sure everyone has heard it blasting in a club, the beat is straight ill 8)
for that reason i would probably say its the best track on the documentary and definitely his best single. the only other one that comes close is 'hate it or love it' and they both have 50 on them :laugh:
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i dont post much but I thought Id throw my opinion in the mix. To start I think the reason the hype for this album is getting bigger without even having a single to go from is because of the Game/Dre reunion. I am a Game fan and I think most of the Game fans will agree that ever since the split between Game and the Aftermath camp everyone has been waiting for a reunion between Game/Dre. Its been talked about for a long time and it has finally happened. That would explain some of the hype, I also think people are intrested to see what Game/Pharell have come up with, Now Pharell has been a big influence in many careers and has done some great things for some artists. I think people are getting hyped about this idea of Game/Pharell/Dre.
Think about it, Game has recieved criticism on his last two albums because of lack of direction and lack of content. Why? because he was in charge.This time he let Pharell/Dre take the reigns and give him direction and criticism, this will insure an album that is on par with the Documentary. Simply because he has real Producers as Executive Producers, which means it will flow properly and will be mixed properly. I trust in Dre's ability to mix an album down well, and Pharells ability to direct an artist on how appeal to the current market (not saying hes gonna sound like soulja Boy, dont take it out of context). also I wouldnt compare those tracks like How We Do and Higher, They both go hard and good tracks but they arent the same type of song Get Up is, Too different types of song shouldnt be compared. As far as I see it they are all good in their own way. Lets focus on whats to come. and to the people who been passing judgment based on the tracks Game has released so far, You guys dont get it. Game release bullshit music before his albums come out cause he is sitting on the tracks worth keeping, Hes not going to give you quality shit till the Album comes out and the quality leftovers will come out afterwards. but rightnow its going to be just the bullshit fucking around music. this is his usual M.O.
Good post.
Game doesnt always release bullshit music between albums though, between the documentary and DA, some of games best mixtape joints came out and before documentary came out, game released some nice stuff too.
I think the best thing to judge about the music prior to an album coming out is the form of the cat spitting rather than the joint because the joint usually aint gonna be on some next hype but the way a cat spits can AT TIMES tell of if a nigga going to come correct or not and games sounding solid. So hopefully on the album he'll come straight, especially with dre n pharell looking over it.
Only thing i disagree with was how we do in comparison to get up...i think they can be compared and i think how we do is much better. They both looking to be club joints which get street credibility too. How we do had it. Get ups a nice joint but its not of that level.
Also games last album lacked direction without doubt but DA is the album which arguebaly had the most consistant direction/sound. Whether its as dope as documentary or not, is very subjective. I know loads of people who prefer documentary and loads who prefer DA (As an album i prefer DA...for certain joints, i prefer Documentary fo its more replayable production)...
anyway dope post homie!
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i dont post much but I thought Id throw my opinion in the mix. To start I think the reason the hype for this album is getting bigger without even having a single to go from is because of the Game/Dre reunion. I am a Game fan and I think most of the Game fans will agree that ever since the split between Game and the Aftermath camp everyone has been waiting for a reunion between Game/Dre. Its been talked about for a long time and it has finally happened. That would explain some of the hype, I also think people are intrested to see what Game/Pharell have come up with, Now Pharell has been a big influence in many careers and has done some great things for some artists. I think people are getting hyped about this idea of Game/Pharell/Dre.
Think about it, Game has recieved criticism on his last two albums because of lack of direction and lack of content. Why? because he was in charge.This time he let Pharell/Dre take the reigns and give him direction and criticism, this will insure an album that is on par with the Documentary. Simply because he has real Producers as Executive Producers, which means it will flow properly and will be mixed properly. I trust in Dre's ability to mix an album down well, and Pharells ability to direct an artist on how appeal to the current market (not saying hes gonna sound like soulja Boy, dont take it out of context). also I wouldnt compare those tracks like How We Do and Higher, They both go hard and good tracks but they arent the same type of song Get Up is, Too different types of song shouldnt be compared. As far as I see it they are all good in their own way. Lets focus on whats to come. and to the people who been passing judgment based on the tracks Game has released so far, You guys dont get it. Game release bullshit music before his albums come out cause he is sitting on the tracks worth keeping, Hes not going to give you quality shit till the Album comes out and the quality leftovers will come out afterwards. but rightnow its going to be just the bullshit fucking around music. this is his usual M.O.
to be honest i don't think anyone is really excited or cares for the game/pharrell side of things, pharell's beats haven't been all that for quite a long time. i'd rather hear game on more khalil and timbaland tracks. the hype, at least on here, is purely off the dre reunion like you mention. and why not, it's unlikely that dre would have given him relapse style beats. there could be some serious heat on r.e.d. and it'll definitely be better than L.A.X. by a long way.
the great thing is game normally releases leftovers, some of which are better than album cuts, before, around and after his album releases. but 'white soft porn' better be on the final tracklist and he's silly for not getting actual production from Quik. Iovine is undoubtedly calling the shots when it comes to the final album and timing of the release. he's very likely responsible for the dre reunion in the first place...
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Good post.
Game doesnt always release bullshit music between albums though, between the documentary and DA, some of games best mixtape joints came out and before documentary came out, game released some nice stuff too.
I think the best thing to judge about the music prior to an album coming out is the form of the cat spitting rather than the joint because the joint usually aint gonna be on some next hype but the way a cat spits can AT TIMES tell of if a nigga going to come correct or not and games sounding solid. So hopefully on the album he'll come straight, especially with dre n pharell looking over it.
Only thing i disagree with was how we do in comparison to get up...i think they can be compared and i think how we do is much better. They both looking to be club joints which get street credibility too. How we do had it. Get ups a nice joint but its not of that level.
Also games last album lacked direction without doubt but DA is the album which arguebaly had the most consistant direction/sound. Whether its as dope as documentary or not, is very subjective. I know loads of people who prefer documentary and loads who prefer DA (As an album i prefer DA...for certain joints, i prefer Documentary fo its more replayable production)...
anyway dope post homie!
I agree that 'How We Do' is a better track than 'Get Up' overall. On the beats alone its close, 'Get Up' is more advanced in terms of the drums, but 'How We Do' wins as the best all round track.
'Fresh like UUUUHHHHH' :monkey_dance2:
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damn matty you doin it like that....how we do is noway better than get up...nah not happenin...lol
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and where is the BWS artists on the album?
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yeah some even doubt dre can make somethin as dope as outta control anymore...lol
but westside story and higher>>>>.how we do by miles
how we do >>>>>> higher....and i dont give a fuck wut your fucking argument will be
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and where is the BWS artists on the album?
like i've been saying game doesn't really have a say to put them on his albums cuz the songs won't make it. Jimmy Iovine sets up artists with game and production and shit like that.
Get your walk on....I dont understand why you hate on game so hard lol Dude definitely writeshis own shit, i know that for a fact. So when something dope comes out you automatically say game must have not written that song lol be real game ghost writes for people why wouldn't he write his own shit
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and get up was one of the biggest let downs for me. Thought it was going to be dop, that beat is garbo to me and 50 didn't do nothing on it anyways. Credibility should be stripped from you for saying get up is better than how we do let be serious here lol
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yeah some even doubt dre can make somethin as dope as outta control anymore...lol
but westside story and higher>>>>.how we do by miles
how we do >>>>>> higher....and i dont give a fuck wut your fucking argument will be
both are really good songs, on a really good album.
i still fail to see where Get Up came into this conversation though..
that song was so average at best; yeah, Dre dropped a monster on the boards, but it takes more than that to make it a hit.
that shit barely even did anything on the charts and/or the clubs.
and where is the BWS artists on the album?
LOL, like Game would give them a chance. :D
he wants to be the only motherfucker on the West shining, unless he's doing a track with a legend.
you can say what you want about Jimmy picking the lineup for Game, but if Game really wanted anyone off BWS to be on the album, they could find a feature for him.
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Yeah,thats absolute horse shit that game doesnt get a say lol,get fucking real if he wanted someone on his own album he could do it.
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yeah some even doubt dre can make somethin as dope as outta control anymore...lol
but westside story and higher>>>>.how we do by miles
how we do >>>>>> higher....and i dont give a fuck wut your fucking argument will be
both are really good songs, on a really good album.
i still fail to see where Get Up came into this conversation though..
that song was so average at best; yeah, Dre dropped a monster on the boards, but it takes more than that to make it a hit.
that shit barely even did anything on the charts and/or the clubs.
and where is the BWS artists on the album?
LOL, like Game would give them a chance. :D
he wants to be the only motherfucker on the West shining, unless he's doing a track with a legend.
you can say what you want about Jimmy picking the lineup for Game, but if Game really wanted anyone off BWS to be on the album, they could find a feature for him.
Higher sounds like a dude who tries to get his penis up but can't, ''Dim dim dim dim dim, dum dum dum dum'' repeat it and add some piano after the last ''dum'' and there, you got higher.
It's not melodic, it sucks. How we do was futuristic, incredible, the claps in the beginning, the violin, the melodic piano, the extra drums, Game's flow, 50's chorus = CLASSIC
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^If game don't have a label deal then he can't put them on the album. It's all about money game doesn't decide what tracks make it. If jimmy iovine thinks someone is marketable then he'll let them on the album i'd guess so. How come d12 wasn't on the marshall mathers lp? same reason...Although i do agree game likes to be the only one hot out here. And this album is going to be dope as fuck. Fuck what the haters say. LAX was a decent album but was just poorly structured and the flow of tracks didn't work while Doctors Advocate had a nice flow. DA was dope as fuck really LAX was the only disappointment and even so it will still get rotations
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Yeah,thats absolute horse shit that game doesnt get a say lol,get fucking real if he wanted someone on his own album he could do it.
even if it was just one person; they could find space for one verse for him.
Jimmy allows Eminem to throw Obie Trice & members of D-12 on his albums.
& if by some ridiculous long shot this is true & Game really isn't allowed to get any of them on his album, that is why mainstream Hip Hop is stone cold dead; you can't even get actual rappers on your albums? Jimmy gives Game a list of mainstream guys he's "allowed" to put on his albums?
which also leads me to saying, i don't see how you guys are hyped for this lol; i mean, why do you think Jimmy "won't allow" guys off BWS on the album? because they don't appeal mainstream; meaning this album is straight set up for mainstream appeal & nothing less. what kind of "vintage West Coast classic" songs you expect Game to drop when he can't even get one of his street homies on the album, but he can get Lady GaGa..?
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^If game don't have a label deal then he can't put them on the album. It's all about money game doesn't decide what tracks make it. If jimmy iovine thinks someone is marketable then he'll let them on the album i'd guess so. How come d12 wasn't on the marshall mathers lp? same reason...Although i do agree game likes to be the only one hot out here. And this album is going to be dope as fuck. Fuck what the haters say. LAX was a decent album but was just poorly structured and the flow of tracks didn't work while Doctors Advocate had a nice flow. DA was dope as fuck really LAX was the only disappointment and even so it will still get rotations
What the fuck,d 12 WAS on the marshal mathers lp.
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^If game don't have a label deal then he can't put them on the album. It's all about money game doesn't decide what tracks make it. If jimmy iovine thinks someone is marketable then he'll let them on the album i'd guess so. How come d12 wasn't on the marshall mathers lp? same reason...Although i do agree game likes to be the only one hot out here. And this album is going to be dope as fuck. Fuck what the haters say. LAX was a decent album but was just poorly structured and the flow of tracks didn't work while Doctors Advocate had a nice flow. DA was dope as fuck really LAX was the only disappointment and even so it will still get rotations
What the fuck,d 12 WAS on the marshal mathers lp.
yeah, "Under The Influence"; & they were on The Eminem Show & Encore..lol.
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cham if you wanna know where 'get up' came into the conversation that'll be me :laugh:
anything related to dre produced singles and chances are you'll find me talking about 'outta control remix' and 'get up' 8)
i don't think game will be on anything too dark or on a similar vibe to 'how we do' though...i can imagine it being some more chill and grown up shit this time. obviously anything mildly westcoast, head nodding, upbeat and funky is what i'm checking for...
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cham if you wanna know where 'get up' came into the conversation that'll be me :laugh:
anything related to dre produced singles and chances are you'll find me talking about 'outta control remix' and 'get up' 8)
i don't think game will be on anything too dark or on a similar vibe to 'how we do' though...i can imagine it being some more chill and grown up shit this time. obviously anything mildly westcoast, head nodding, upbeat and funky is what i'm checking for...
i just found it very average; i can't put it in the same sentence as the "Outta Control Remix"; but to each his own lol.
as for RED Album's Dre produced single, i see it being as mainstream as they come; i just hope it has a nice West Coast feel to it & i'll be good. i can't see it topping "How We Do", but i just hope it's better than my expectations for it. :P
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noone gives a fuck each others argument... lol...take it how you want it
higher + westside story>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>how we do
yeah some even doubt dre can make somethin as dope as outta control anymore...lol
but westside story and higher>>>>.how we do by miles
how we do >>>>>> higher....and i dont give a fuck wut your fucking argument will be
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Chams speaks truth about one thing, if game really wanted a BWS nigga on one of his tracks, he could def get them on it if he pushed hard enough. Aslong as the joint was dope ofcourse. However it would have to make sense. If he put a bws nigga on his record, it would mean once he is done with his record he would have to push his bws nigga out there too and i dont see game as that sorta business cat. Almost can see why he wouldnt put a BWS cat on it because its not like we going to hear off the cat ever again anyway lol. Game just needs to survive on his own, niggas of the west dont come by often anymore so when a cat like games got a name, he better work to keep his own name out their more than worrying about someone who aint never going to get an album out most likely under him.
I love how this album seems to fully backed by dre and has some of the biggest hiphop producers backing it. Should be banging, i gotta feeling this shits going to be heat. Not none of that 50/eminem bullshitt some of y'all get 'hyped' for lol ;)
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Lyrical_G: thanks for pointing that out, that was the anti G-Unit mixtape period. Some of his best verses came from those tapes. I forgot about the tapes for a min.
I think the reason L.A.X. was such a let down was because it was so rushed. I remember the time frame, Game just got out twin towers(PC'd up by the way, but I wont hold it against him) after serving a week and he went in the studio with Cool N Dre and that was at the begining of the year and the album was in stores by the 4th quarter. I remember The Documentary was 3 years in the making and Im pretty sure Doctor's Advocate took like a year and a half to get put out. Then you have L.A.X. done in a few months. He rushed it and it was lackluster to some people, dont get me wrong...I enjoyed the album but it didnt stand out as a classic. Doctor's Advocate was my personal favorite because the content was personal.
I noticed some of the guys were talking about how the Dre/Eminem tracks and Dre/50 tracks have come out. Em knows how he wants his music to sound when he makes it and Dre tailor fits his beats to fit with Em's vision....Same with 50, Dre will build a beat around you....The reason people get so hyped with the Game/Dre colabos is cause they come from the same place, its that west coast G funk new era type music. Dre makes beats like that for Game cause thats what Game represents, he is catering to his image and style. Thats why How We Do, Higher, & Westside Story sounded like some Chronic 2004 type shit.
Also Matty mentioned that a lot of people dont care about Pharell, cause his beats havent been stellar recently, which I wont argue but what Im trying to say about Pharell is that he is very good at giving an artist direction and coaching them on how to make good music. I remember Snoop said in an interview some years back that Dre was responsible for giving him his first #1 album but it wasnt tell he worked with Pharell that Snoop actually had his #1 chart topping single......he said that Pharell was responsible for taking his career to a new level. I think that the same thing is going to happen to Game, I see him having a chance to become a bigger figure in Hip Hop with Pharell guiding him.
Lastly, BWS....In one of those video interviews Game did last year the dude asked him about BWS and he started naming off Juice and Clyde and X.O. and Game said that they are still there doing their thing but when he was asked why they arent featured on the albums, Game actually went on record and said they need to make a name for themselves first. Once they make a name for themselves he will put all his efforts into backing them, but not sooner. I know it sounds kinda fucked when you first think about it but its for their own good man, do that shit on your own and show me you want it type mentality.
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On one hand I dont understand the hype around this album on this forum because lax was an abortion of an album and game has gotten progressively worse each album.
More or less how I feel though I only felt the production on Doctor's Advocate was poorer, lyrically he stepped it up.
Anyways, BWS is a joke. I wouldn't want to feature any of those "artists" on my album if I could work with the likes of Nas or Common.
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On one hand I dont understand the hype around this album on this forum because lax was an abortion of an album and game has gotten progressively worse each album.
More or less how I feel though I only felt the production on Doctor's Advocate was poorer, lyrically he stepped it up.
Anyways, BWS is a joke. I wouldn't want to feature any of those "artists" on my album if I could work with the likes of Nas or Common.
Well I agree that xo and menace are garbage,i think clyde carson is a great new artist that could move units.
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Can't wait to hear this.
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To me, it's wait and see. I'd kind of like to see Game move away from all these major guests and superstar producers. Over the course of three albums, he's pretty much worked with nearly every major hip-hop act out there minus a few noteable exceptions. Instead of going after name producers, I'd like to see him challenge himself a little more. Artists in general need to find that "fan" inside them and not just go after what's hot. Either way, as a rapper, Game is someone I feel the need to check for.
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^If game don't have a label deal then he can't put them on the album. It's all about money game doesn't decide what tracks make it. If jimmy iovine thinks someone is marketable then he'll let them on the album i'd guess so. How come d12 wasn't on the marshall mathers lp? same reason...Although i do agree game likes to be the only one hot out here. And this album is going to be dope as fuck. Fuck what the haters say. LAX was a decent album but was just poorly structured and the flow of tracks didn't work while Doctors Advocate had a nice flow. DA was dope as fuck really LAX was the only disappointment and even so it will still get rotations
What the fuck,d 12 WAS on the marshal mathers lp.
just checked haven't peeped that album in a while your right bizzare was on that ammityville track
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The hell is going on in this thread?
Get Up was produced by Scott Storch.
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The hell is going on in this thread?
Get Up was produced by Scott Storch.
I have no idea who officially produced it.
*waits for storch and dre die-hards to argue*
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dre ghost produced it....lol
heavily dre influenced considerin tuff jew produced it...and might aswell give dre credit for it
The hell is going on in this thread?
Get Up was produced by Scott Storch.
I have no idea who officially produced it.
*waits for storch and dre die-hards to argue*
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storch produced it.Aint no way in hell dre ghost produced something lol that man would always take his credit.
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i dont post much but I thought Id throw my opinion in the mix. To start I think the reason the hype for this album is getting bigger without even having a single to go from is because of the Game/Dre reunion. I am a Game fan and I think most of the Game fans will agree that ever since the split between Game and the Aftermath camp everyone has been waiting for a reunion between Game/Dre. Its been talked about for a long time and it has finally happened. That would explain some of the hype, I also think people are intrested to see what Game/Pharell have come up with, Now Pharell has been a big influence in many careers and has done some great things for some artists. I think people are getting hyped about this idea of Game/Pharell/Dre.
Think about it, Game has recieved criticism on his last two albums because of lack of direction and lack of content. Why? because he was in charge.This time he let Pharell/Dre take the reigns and give him direction and criticism, this will insure an album that is on par with the Documentary. Simply because he has real Producers as Executive Producers, which means it will flow properly and will be mixed properly. I trust in Dre's ability to mix an album down well, and Pharells ability to direct an artist on how appeal to the current market (not saying hes gonna sound like soulja Boy, dont take it out of context). also I wouldnt compare those tracks like How We Do and Higher, They both go hard and good tracks but they arent the same type of song Get Up is, Too different types of song shouldnt be compared. As far as I see it they are all good in their own way. Lets focus on whats to come. and to the people who been passing judgment based on the tracks Game has released so far, You guys dont get it. Game release bullshit music before his albums come out cause he is sitting on the tracks worth keeping, Hes not going to give you quality shit till the Album comes out and the quality leftovers will come out afterwards. but rightnow its going to be just the bullshit fucking around music. this is his usual M.O.
:eh: you're kidding, right?
yeah some even doubt dre can make somethin as dope as outta control anymore...lol
but westside story and higher>>>>.how we do by miles
how we do >>>>>> higher....and i dont give a fuck wut your fucking argument will be
both are really good songs, on a really good album.
i still fail to see where Get Up came into this conversation though..
that song was so average at best; yeah, Dre dropped a monster on the boards, but it takes more than that to make it a hit.
that shit barely even did anything on the charts and/or the clubs.
and where is the BWS artists on the album?
LOL, like Game would give them a chance. :D
he wants to be the only motherfucker on the West shining, unless he's doing a track with a legend.
you can say what you want about Jimmy picking the lineup for Game, but if Game really wanted anyone off BWS to be on the album, they could find a feature for him.
Higher sounds like a dude who tries to get his penis up but can't, ''Dim dim dim dim dim, dum dum dum dum'' repeat it and add some piano after the last ''dum'' and there, you got higher.
It's not melodic, it sucks. How we do was futuristic, incredible, the claps in the beginning, the violin, the melodic piano, the extra drums, Game's flow, 50's chorus = CLASSIC
classic? :sshh:
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dre ghost produced it....lol
heavily dre influenced considerin tuff jew produced it...and might aswell give dre credit for it
You take Dr. Dre dickriding to a whole new level
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On one hand I dont understand the hype around this album on this forum because lax was an abortion of an album and game has gotten progressively worse each album.
More or less how I feel though I only felt the production on Doctor's Advocate was poorer, lyrically he stepped it up.
Anyways, BWS is a joke. I wouldn't want to feature any of those "artists" on my album if I could work with the likes of Nas or Common.
Well I agree that xo and menace are garbage,i think clyde carson is a great new artist that could move units.
When XO still was Scipio without that pathetic super-gangsta attitude I liked a lot of his stuff. When he did music with Bishop, Indef, Chevy Jones etc.
http://www.datpiff.com/pop-mixtape-player.php?id=m538e643&tid=12 So much good music on this mixtape! 8)
lol @ saying "Game ain't a smart enough businessman to sign me!" The last music he put out was in fact garbage. I wish Game really wouldn't have signed him...
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The hell is going on in this thread?
Get Up was produced by Scott Storch.
we're not having this debate all over again :laugh:
dre is credited as 'mixer'....but your ears should tell you it sounds absolutely nothing like a scott storch beat, except for the melody...
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Game needs to release a single soon, this album sounds like it could be the best (production-wise) since 2001. I'd be more hyped about this too if DJ Quik, JR Rotem or Terrace Martin were producing some cuts on it.
That plus Clyde Carson and Juice making appearences on it.
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The hell is going on in this thread?
Get Up was produced by Scott Storch.
we're not having this debate all over again :laugh:
dre is credited as 'mixer'....but your ears should tell you it sounds absolutely nothing like a scott storch beat, except for the melody...
JEEZ, how many idiots is it on this forum? When Storch is credited as a producer, it means he IS the producer of the record. All this wishfull thinking is seriously pathetic.
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Looking forward to this album. Only bws member i would like to hear more music from is clyde carson dude doesnt release much.
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The hell is going on in this thread?
Get Up was produced by Scott Storch.
we're not having this debate all over again :laugh:
dre is credited as 'mixer'....but your ears should tell you it sounds absolutely nothing like a scott storch beat, except for the melody...
JEEZ, how many idiots is it on this forum? When Storch is credited as a producer, it means he IS the producer of the record. All this wishfull thinking is seriously pathetic.
lol, its not 'wishful' thinking, just being objective about the actual sound. besides storch was in rehab/not producing records at the time so likely a storch/dre track from the bishop sessions...
can you name any scott storch produced records that use a similar drum set? thought not.
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Im pretty sure this shit will drop in the fall i hope it drops soon
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The hell is going on in this thread?
Get Up was produced by Scott Storch.
we're not having this debate all over again :laugh:
dre is credited as 'mixer'....but your ears should tell you it sounds absolutely nothing like a scott storch beat, except for the melody...
JEEZ, how many idiots is it on this forum? When Storch is credited as a producer, it means he IS the producer of the record. All this wishfull thinking is seriously pathetic.
lol, its not 'wishful' thinking, just being objective about the actual sound. besides storch was in rehab/not producing records at the time so likely a storch/dre track from the bishop sessions...
can you name any scott storch produced records that use a similar drum set? thought not.
Oh, my bad. Since the drums are different from other Storch tracks that means Dr. Dre MUST have produced it. I mean, it's not like Storch himself could have just used some different drums on that track.
If I hear a Storch beat that has different sounds than his previous beats, I will now know that Dr. Dre produced it. Thanks Matty!
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The hell is going on in this thread?
Get Up was produced by Scott Storch.
we're not having this debate all over again :laugh:
dre is credited as 'mixer'....but your ears should tell you it sounds absolutely nothing like a scott storch beat, except for the melody...
JEEZ, how many idiots is it on this forum? When Storch is credited as a producer, it means he IS the producer of the record. All this wishfull thinking is seriously pathetic.
lol, its not 'wishful' thinking, just being objective about the actual sound. besides storch was in rehab/not producing records at the time so likely a storch/dre track from the bishop sessions...
can you name any scott storch produced records that use a similar drum set? thought not.
Oh, my bad. Since the drums are different from other Storch tracks that means Dr. Dre MUST have produced it. I mean, it's not like Storch himself could have just used some different drums on that track.
If I hear a Storch beat that has different sounds than his previous beats, I will now know that Dr. Dre produced it. Thanks Matty!
no, your just not listening. if it sounds a extra nice and dre is credited as the 'mixer'. and dre is credited as the mixer for 'get up'...
there are plenty of examples of tracks 'mixed' by dre where a producers work suddenly sounds significantly better or different. not even in a subtle way, but often blatantly obvious like 'get up'. at the end of the day it is speculation, but i'm basing it on the sound before the other details are even relevant.
and we've had this debate on here countless times - what is a producer, who would be considered the producer(s) of a certain track, etc...
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If dre had produced it he would have given himself the credit as co producer plain and simple.
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Game needs to release a single soon, this album sounds like it could be the best (production-wise) since 2001. I'd be more hyped about this too if DJ Quik, JR Rotem or Terrace Martin were producing some cuts on it.
That plus Clyde Carson and Juice making appearences on it.
Terrace Martin produced 1 track for game for R.E.D
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I'm not one of the guys that hates on Game for no reason. I don't think he's that great as a rapper and his last album was pretty weak.
He relies on good guests and hot beats but when it works its definitely entertaining so the news of these producers can only be a good thing (I hope). Shame no Just Blaze though.
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Game needs to release a single soon, this album sounds like it could be the best (production-wise) since 2001. I'd be more hyped about this too if DJ Quik, JR Rotem or Terrace Martin were producing some cuts on it.
That plus Clyde Carson and Juice making appearences on it.
Terrace Martin produced 1 track for game for R.E.D
JR also produced (at least) one track
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One Premier track would have did me just fine. I would have murdered that sh--. But we ain't get it in, 'cause he was doing a whole bunch of sh-- for Christina Aguilera.
What in the flyin' fuck??
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tina pays him more...lol
One Premier track would have did me just fine. I would have murdered that sh--. But we ain't get it in, 'cause he was doing a whole bunch of sh-- for Christina Aguilera.
What in the flyin' fuck??
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One Premier track would have did me just fine. I would have murdered that sh--. But we ain't get it in, 'cause he was doing a whole bunch of sh-- for Christina Aguilera.
What in the flyin' fuck??
Premo's done plenty of tracks for Aguilera.
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i dont post much but I thought Id throw my opinion in the mix. To start I think the reason the hype for this album is getting bigger without even having a single to go from is because of the Game/Dre reunion. I am a Game fan and I think most of the Game fans will agree that ever since the split between Game and the Aftermath camp everyone has been waiting for a reunion between Game/Dre. Its been talked about for a long time and it has finally happened. That would explain some of the hype, I also think people are intrested to see what Game/Pharell have come up with, Now Pharell has been a big influence in many careers and has done some great things for some artists. I think people are getting hyped about this idea of Game/Pharell/Dre.
Think about it, Game has recieved criticism on his last two albums because of lack of direction and lack of content. Why? because he was in charge.This time he let Pharell/Dre take the reigns and give him direction and criticism, this will insure an album that is on par with the Documentary. Simply because he has real Producers as Executive Producers, which means it will flow properly and will be mixed properly. I trust in Dre's ability to mix an album down well, and Pharells ability to direct an artist on how appeal to the current market (not saying hes gonna sound like soulja Boy, dont take it out of context). also I wouldnt compare those tracks like How We Do and Higher, They both go hard and good tracks but they arent the same type of song Get Up is, Too different types of song shouldnt be compared. As far as I see it they are all good in their own way. Lets focus on whats to come. and to the people who been passing judgment based on the tracks Game has released so far, You guys dont get it. Game release bullshit music before his albums come out cause he is sitting on the tracks worth keeping, Hes not going to give you quality shit till the Album comes out and the quality leftovers will come out afterwards. but rightnow its going to be just the bullshit fucking around music. this is his usual M.O.
:eh: you're kidding, right?
yeah some even doubt dre can make somethin as dope as outta control anymore...lol
but westside story and higher>>>>.how we do by miles
how we do >>>>>> higher....and i dont give a fuck wut your fucking argument will be
both are really good songs, on a really good album.
i still fail to see where Get Up came into this conversation though..
that song was so average at best; yeah, Dre dropped a monster on the boards, but it takes more than that to make it a hit.
that shit barely even did anything on the charts and/or the clubs.
and where is the BWS artists on the album?
LOL, like Game would give them a chance. :D
he wants to be the only motherfucker on the West shining, unless he's doing a track with a legend.
you can say what you want about Jimmy picking the lineup for Game, but if Game really wanted anyone off BWS to be on the album, they could find a feature for him.
Higher sounds like a dude who tries to get his penis up but can't, ''Dim dim dim dim dim, dum dum dum dum'' repeat it and add some piano after the last ''dum'' and there, you got higher.
It's not melodic, it sucks. How we do was futuristic, incredible, the claps in the beginning, the violin, the melodic piano, the extra drums, Game's flow, 50's chorus = CLASSIC
classic? :sshh:
Yes, a CLASSIC club banger. You haven't been to a club the last 10 years Vader have you?
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'how we do' is a pure club track. it isn't even that good on a car system imo but in a club environment tis incredible 8)
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How We Do sounds great on a car system, that thump is crazy.
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How We Do sounds great on a car system, that thump is crazy.
i dunno man, that thump was a bit too much in a small enclosed space. i think it sounds crazy in a more open space with the extra reverb 8)
on game singles - 'hate it or love it' had sickening amounts of bass on a car system. too much for me :o
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Yes, a CLASSIC club banger. You haven't been to a club the last 10 years Vader have you?
that's not what you wrote the first time.
well some people may shake their asses to it, but i still think the song is decent at best.
for the record, i'm not Vader, LOL ;D ask Jome if you don't believe me
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Yes, a CLASSIC club banger. You haven't been to a club the last 10 years Vader have you?
that's not what you wrote the first time.
well some people may shake their asses to it, but i still think the song is decent at best.
for the record, i'm not Vader, LOL ;D ask Jome if you don't believe me
me when the track comes on :monkey_dance2:
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yeah but you think that Outta Control (remix) is Detox' secret weapon :D
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yeah but you think that Outta Control (remix) is Detox' secret weapon :D
now that's a club record :monkey_dance2: :monkey_dance2: :monkey_dance2:
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it's better than How we do, i give you that
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it's better than How we do, i give you that
i wouldn't say that, well i would ;D but two different feels. 'outta control' is lot funkier and laid back, 'how we do' is just pure gangsta 8)
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Yes, a CLASSIC club banger. You haven't been to a club the last 10 years Vader have you?
that's not what you wrote the first time.
well some people may shake their asses to it, but i still think the song is decent at best.
for the record, i'm not Vader, LOL ;D ask Jome if you don't believe me
sorry, its because of your sig ;)
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ah, no problem ;)
if you look closely i'm the one next to him in the picture :D