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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Jome on April 28, 2010, 04:43:34 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/v/GTm8q4XGRic&hl
During a recent call with the On-Air Idiots, Nickel Nine confirms the Slaughterhouse signing to Shady Records. He also talks about Bar Exam 3 (dropping May 31st), why he leads off most the Slaughterhouse songs, his relationship with Eminem and why fans should praise Guru like they did with Biggie & Pac.
Bonus: Royce feat. Eminem - Over freestyle blend http://usershare.net/2DopeBoyz/d5o7qw1jch8c
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Hopefully this will give them the chance to shine without selling out. I doubt it, but it would be good to see.
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should be dope. beat selection should be improved. plus, possible guidance by em.
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Awesome , hope it happens.
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should be dope. beat selection should be improved. plus, possible guidance by em.
I can't even imagine how dope SH feat. Eminem or Eminem feat. SH will sound like. All them just spitting.
Crooked I & Eminem on a same track is a dream come true for every "multi-syllable hiphop" fan :D
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I hope to god the production is better.
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I wasn't that impressed with the first Slaughterhouse album, and I guess Ortiz was bragging about how they did it in a week or something, and Royce further explained in that interview that they had to finish it before the tour.
Royce says they will take more time on the second album. I hope so because I want to see them reach their full potential.
This time around it should be just each artist dropping their verse, but they need to really focus on making the best SONGS they can make and not the best VERSES they can spit.
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I hope to god the production is better.
Slaughter has access to top notch producers now son
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I hope to god the production is better.
Slaughter has access to top notch producers now son
my thing is, i want to hear to new excuse people come up with when the second album comes. :D
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damn em is on the album wit his accent....lol
I hope to god the production is better.
Slaughter has access to top notch producers now son
my thing is, i want to hear to new excuse people come up with when the second album comes. :D
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Am I the only one who liked the first album's production? I think the album's production was fine. My only negative criticism of the first album was the pointless Joe Budden and phone message skits.
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Am I the only one who liked the first album's production? I think the album's production was fine. My only negative criticism of the first album was the pointless Joe Budden and phone message skits.
i was feeling it; it fit who was spitting over it.
but yeah, the skits were absolutely pointless lmfao.
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Am I the only one who liked the first album's production? I think the album's production was fine. My only negative criticism of the first album was the pointless Joe Budden and phone message skits.
Yeah, you can't really front on a line-up consisting of Focus, Alchemist, DJ Khalil, Emile, Mr.Porter, Streetrunner, and leftovers from Red Spyda, Scram Jones & Nottz. (Even though they didn't all bring their A-game)
That's a B+ or A- line-up.. on Shady the dream would be some beats from Dre/Storch, DJ Premier through the Royce/Joell link, Havoc, Sha Money XL, Hi-Tek, or J.R. Rotem.
Joe Budden is a burden I guess we have to live with, hopefully they'll place him on the 3rd or 4th verse, so it's easier skippable.. and fuck skits.
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That's dope n all, n I hope Em is on the album, but I just wanna hear another Royce + Em track 8)
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Am I the only one who liked the first album's production? I think the album's production was fine. My only negative criticism of the first album was the pointless Joe Budden and phone message skits.
Nope,I thought the production was solid.I dont get what peoples problem is,just because it isnt dr.dre,timbaland or some generic southern shit.The production fit the songs and the people.I liked the Joe budden skit,but the phone call ones were pointless.And Joe budden murked microphone,that was a top 5 verse on the album,his verse on cuckoo was the best on that song as well.But people love him or hate him so its whatever
Anyway I just want this to be confirmed already by eminem or someone,and hopefully we get to see a slaughterhouse feature on recovery,it would only make sense if its actually true.Shady is the one major label in hip hop that slaughterhouse could actually work on,its a perfect match.Any other label would want them to tone down their lyrics big time.
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Am I the only one who liked the first album's production? I think the album's production was fine. My only negative criticism of the first album was the pointless Joe Budden and phone message skits.
Yeah, you can't really front on a line-up consisting of Focus, Alchemist, DJ Khalil, Emile, Mr.Porter, Streetrunner, and leftovers from Red Spyda, Scram Jones & Nottz. (Even though they didn't all bring their A-game)
That's a B+ or A- line-up.. on Shady the dream would be some beats from Dre/Storch, DJ Premier through the Royce/Joell link, Havoc, Sha Money XL, Hi-Tek, or J.R. Rotem.
Joe Budden is a burden I guess we have to live with, hopefully they'll place him on the 3rd or 4th verse, so it's easier skippable.. and fuck skits.
nothing wrong with the line up, but it should have been a lot better
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I hope to god the production is better.
Slaughter has access to top notch producers now son
Eminem the producer :raisetheroof:
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The beats for the most part but were good but I disliked the following beats:
not tonight
microphone
cuckoo
killaz
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well on shady they'll have all the time in the world to make the second album :laugh:
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I hope to god the production is better.
Slaughter has access to top notch producers now son
Eminem the producer :raisetheroof:
Eminem has made a lot of great tracks production wise.
And who doesnt like microphones beat????That beat was awesome.Cuckoo I liked because it fit the theme of the song but i can see why people didnt like it.Not tonight is the only beat i disliked on the album
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you liked the one?
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The beats for the most part but were good but I disliked the following beats:
not tonight
microphone
cuckoo
killaz
Say whaaat?
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The beats for the most part but were good but I disliked the following beats:
not tonight
microphone
cuckoo
killaz
I wasn't too crazy about the beat for "Cuckoo," but I liked the other three.
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The beats for the most part but were good but I disliked the following beats:
not tonight
microphone
cuckoo
killaz
I wasn't too crazy about the beat for "Cuckoo," but I liked the other three.
For the most part I liked mostly every song on the album. I actually liked the "Cuckoo" beat for creativity, but the song itself is mostly a skipper for me personally.
I love "Not Tonight" and "Microphone" though, those along with "Lyrical Murderers" and "Onslaught 2" get the most play from me.
I can't forget "Rain Drops" though, I just didn't mention it among those, cause that song is in a completely different category for me.
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Microphone was a top five beat of 2009.
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Interesting. If its actually done and they have signed with shady records as a group deal, this would be the first signing i would support on shady records and it would be pretty big. Crooked I spittin on a major lol...still find it hard to believe haha, it would be a good move though.
lol@having all the time in the world to release their album comment. Aint that the truth, hopefully it comes out sometime though, would be koool and hopefully eminem aint producing more than 1-2 tracks on it.
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Expect the next Slaughterhouse album to be ruined by weak Eminem production then. Whoop-de-doo.
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Can't understand why people hate on Eminem production. He has produced some CLASSIC tracks and some garbage too but his beats are pretty decent at least for me. And I can't even think of any album that has been released under Shady that had weak production. Maybe Obie's second one but anyway y'all get the point.
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Can't understand why people hate on Eminem production. He has produced some CLASSIC tracks and some garbage too but his beats are pretty decent at least for me. And I can't even think of any album that has been released under Shady that had weak production. Maybe Obie's second one but anyway y'all get the point.
People will always find something to hate.Eminem has produced hip hop classics,he makes the occasional shitty beat but so does every producer.
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Can't understand why people hate on Eminem production. He has produced some CLASSIC tracks and some garbage too but his beats are pretty decent at least for me. And I can't even think of any album that has been released under Shady that had weak production. Maybe Obie's second one but anyway y'all get the point.
I don't "HATE" on it, mate, I just don't like his production style. Never have. He's had a few decent productions but in my humble opinion overall he's not a good producer.
Its all about opinions mate, mines just different to yours thats all.
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So in your opinion eminem show was ruined by his production?lol
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So in your opinion eminem show was ruined by his production?lol
I actually didnt like the Eminem Show as an album. There were a lot of poor songs on there. So in a way yes, but that wasnt just down to the production.
One thing I will say is that Eminem's two best albums are his first two, which coincidentally happen to be the two albums he's done with the least production handled by himself.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem_production_discography
i mean, i don't know how credible it is; but if that list is true (i know some of them are); he's got some dope ass beats under his belt.
i mean, you would expect the protege of the greatest producer in history to be pretty good lol.
but just because Slaughterhouse is on Shady doesn't nessesarily mean that EVERY song will be produced by Eminem
maybe Slim can hook them up with Dre for a song or two; not to mention on Em's "Recovery" he's using producers other than stictly Dre, so maybe he'll hook Slaughterhouse up with those guys.
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i was actually about to go check the tracklist & name the songs that were really tight on The Eminem Show & as i went though them i noticed that i can single one song out that was weak.
nothing on that album was below a 3.5/5 for me.
i'd consider myself a pretty big Eminem fan though, so i may be biased & i'd consider it a personal classic album. :P
but when i listen to guys like Eminem & Slaughterhouse, i don't listen to them to be blown away by production; they are top notch lyricists, i listen for the sick word play & the awesome flows.
any classic production that i may come across listening to guys like that is just a bonus. 8)
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i was actually about to go check the tracklist & name the songs that were really tight on The Eminem Show & as i went though them i noticed that i can single one song out that was weak.
nothing on that album was below a 3.5/5 for me.
i'd consider myself a pretty big Eminem fan though, so i may be biased & i'd consider it a personal classic album. :P
but when i listen to guys like Eminem & Slaughterhouse, i don't listen to them to be blown away by production; they are top notch lyricists, i listen for the sick word play & the awesome flows.
any classic production that i may come across listening to guys like that is just a bonus. 8)
I'd definitely agree with this part I've highlighted.
I disagree about the Eminem Show but as you say, its a personal classic for you so we're always going to have different tastes and so on.
Don't get me wrong, the guy has made a few classic beats, but overall I've never been taken in by his sound and I think a lot of his beats are similar (not all, but quite a few).
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I agree,i didnt listen to slaughterhouse for the production.
And every single producer has a lot of songs that sound the same,its called their style.Are you going to tell me that dj preimier songs dont sound the same?or dr.dre?or timbaland?or any producer?If you dont like theri style thats fine,its call personal taste,but I have always found the they have songs that sound so similar arguement dumb because you could say that about every single producer in rap
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I agree,i didnt listen to slaughterhouse for the production.
And every single producer has a lot of songs that sound the same,its called their style.Are you going to tell me that dj preimier songs dont sound the same?or dr.dre?or timbaland?or any producer?If you dont like theri style thats fine,its call personal taste,but I have always found the they have songs that sound so similar arguement dumb because you could say that about every single producer in rap
There is a distinction between having your own style and songs sounding the same.
Also, you hit the nail on the head when you said "if you don't like their style thats fine". Well thats what I'm saying, I don't like his production style.
But again, I agree with you about Slaughterhouse being about the verses. No-one is going to their work for choruses and beats. Its all about the rhymes. And personally I love that about them. There arent a huge amount of emcees out there today that get mainstream exposue of any sort that you can say that about.
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You pick any big producer and someone can post up songs of theirs that sound the same.
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You pick any big producer and someone can post up songs of theirs that sound the same.
Again, as I said just one post ago I agree with that, but there is still a difference between two songs sounding the same and two songs being in a similar style.
What you see to have missed is what I said about agreeing with you saying "if you don't like his style". For example, if I don't like a lot of his songs, and I think some of them sound similar, it stands to reason I'm not going to like them either doesnt it? Thats the point I'm getting across.
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Alright fair enough.Not everyone is going to like everyones production.
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Eminem has a distinct style you hear in some of his beats.
some of his harder beats like "We Ain't", "Hands Up" & "Patiently Waiting" for example sound nothing like his work.
but you get a song like "Beautiful" or "Moment of Clarity" & there is something about it that makes it like "vintage" Eminem, i guess you could say.
i'm looking through that Wiki link i posted with all of Em's production & i have to say, i didn't know he produced half of these (again, if accurate) & i must say, i'm impressed.
his work on both of Obie Trice's albums & D-12's albums were pretty damn good.
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pretty damn good...but nuthin str8 fire, str8 instant classic, str8 dopeness right? lol
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yes,thier is straihgt classic songs from his production.
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which 1's?
yes,thier is straihgt classic songs from his production.
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^just about everything he produced on SSLP & MMLP & some of the stuff on The Eminem Show & Encore; i really had no idea he produced so much of his own albums.
maybe not all classic, but really good.
Renegade, Patiently Waiting & almost all the production on Obie Trice's & about half of the songs off Devil's Night.
like i said though, when you're learning from Dr. Dre, you're bound to be pretty nasty at some point.
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all the eminem stans will b all over slaughterhouse now...yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy....seriously tho =)
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all the eminem stans will b all over slaughterhouse now...yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy....seriously tho =)
hopefully it will expand the popularity of Slaughterhouse.
they have to be on his album though; if he's just on their album, it can't hurt them, but how many people will listen to Slaughterhouse to begin with?
i know Slim will hook Slaughterhouse up with a guest spot on Recovery. :P
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all the eminem stans will b all over slaughterhouse now...yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy....seriously tho =)
hopefully it will expand the popularity of Slaughterhouse.
they have to be on his album though; if he's just on their album, it can't hurt them, but how many people will listen to Slaughterhouse to begin with?
i know Slim will hook Slaughterhouse up with a guest spot on Recovery. :P
co sign. Congrats to Slaughterhouse, I was just bumping their album earlier today.
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which 1's?
yes,thier is straihgt classic songs from his production.
Just look through his discography that was posted,if you cant find a coupe classics in their for yoursel i dotn know what to tell you.
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yeah theres some bangers....but course dre had the real bangers.... ;D
which 1's?
yes,thier is straihgt classic songs from his production.
Just look through his discography that was posted,if you cant find a coupe classics in their for yoursel i dotn know what to tell you.
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^nobody is saying Eminem is Dr. Dre or even that Eminem is some Godly guy on the boards; but he's got some real nice productions in his catalogue that deserve more credit than he gets.
people generally shit on his productions, but he's got some nice ass beats.
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people shit on his work cuz alot of it sounds the same....but yeah he got some dope work....but why you think people dont like his work or dont get the credit he deserves?
maybe he gets too much credit on the rappin side and less on the production side
^nobody is saying Eminem is Dr. Dre or even that Eminem is some Godly guy on the boards; but he's got some real nice productions in his catalogue that deserve more credit than he gets.
people generally shit on his productions, but he's got some nice ass beats.
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Like Ive said Ive never understood the whole songs sounds the same arguement as it can be made for every producer.I dont understand the hate on his production,songs like patiently waiting, or nightmares for king gordy or dont come down for obie trice are great tracks.Yeah he does have some generic shit but so does any producer.I think the hate comes from his work onthe 2pac album.That album was his worst work for the most part,though it did have some great tracks on it.
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^yeah, most of the beats on "Loyal to the Game" had that "generic" Eminem sound.
but also, it could just be that he produces for people who aren't "huge" names & for those bigger names, it sounds so "un-Eminem" related, that people would associate the two.
i didn't know Em produced "Hands Up" & "On Fire" for Banks; those are some bangers i wouldn't expect out of Slim.
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He didnt produce them,he co produced them.On fire was with kwame,who biggie had ethered,that was a big step in his career to have a big song again,and hands up the name is alluding me right now....On the kwame thing,thats the one thing I love about g unit is their willingness to work with any producer as long as the beat was hot,they didnt care about names.It was cool seeing guys like sam sneed have beats in the mainstream again
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^realllly? that's disappointing; i thought Em was dropping straight bangers lol.
& yeah, it was cool, until they started using no name guys who made shitty beats. :-X :P
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yeah that loyal to the game shit is wack....but some of the g-unit songs were cool
he did the warrior part 2 version too...which isnt nuthin special
but whatever input he had for on fire and hands up....they not bad...but im comparin em to str8 bangers like poppin them thangz....that right there is insane and instant classic...and id take that over almost anythin em has ever done
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Can't understand why people hate on Eminem production. He has produced some CLASSIC tracks and some garbage too but his beats are pretty decent at least for me. And I can't even think of any album that has been released under Shady that had weak production. Maybe Obie's second one but anyway y'all get the point.
I don't "HATE" on it, mate, I just don't like his production style. Never have. He's had a few decent productions but in my humble opinion overall he's not a good producer.
Its all about opinions mate, mines just different to yours thats all.
that's fine.
i think he's got some heat though
^just about everything he produced on SSLP & MMLP & some of the stuff on The Eminem Show & Encore; i really had no idea he produced so much of his own albums.
maybe not all classic, but really good.
Renegade, Patiently Waiting & almost all the production on Obie Trice's & about half of the songs off Devil's Night.
like i said though, when you're learning from Dr. Dre, you're bound to be pretty nasty at some point.
yeah, you can definitely hear it.
remember when i said that 50's I'm supposed to die tonight sounds like Dre?
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=214201.0
Like Ive said Ive never understood the whole songs sounds the same arguement as it can be made for every producer.I dont understand the hate on his production,songs like patiently waiting, or nightmares for king gordy or dont come down for obie trice are great tracks.Yeah he does have some generic shit but so does any producer.I think the hate comes from his work onthe 2pac album.That album was his worst work for the most part,though it did have some great tracks on it.
well isn't that what some say about Dr.Dre, like you mentioned earlier?
like Dre, Eminem doesn't make complex instrumentals
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I hope to god the production is better.
U suckas need to clean dat ear wax outta yo god damn ears if you question the production. Tha beats fit Slaughterhouse's style perfectly for their first album. Hopefully we get to hear Slaughter over dre/storch and Sha Money XL beats.
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GREAT NEWS!
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I think the hate comes from his work onthe 2pac album.That album was his worst work for the most part,though it did have some great tracks on it.
name one great track.
fucking up a 2pac album SHOULD lose him some major points
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I thought thugs get lonely too was great.The beat fit the song perfect with nates hook.
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I thought thugs get lonely too was great.The beat fit the song perfect with nates hook.
the only redeeming part about the raping (!) of that 2pac track was nate dogg on the hook. the beat sounded like some cheap background music and 2pacs vocals were completely fucked with.
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I thought thugs get lonely too was great.The beat fit the song perfect with nates hook.
the only redeeming part about the raping (!) of that 2pac track was nate dogg on the hook. the beat sounded like some cheap background music and 2pacs vocals were completely fucked with.
this. It's nice that Eminem admitted that relapse and the accent were ehhh. Now he needs to apologize for ruining a 2pac album and promise to get Dr. Dre to remake the album, this time without fucking with the vocals
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I thought thugs get lonely too was great.The beat fit the song perfect with nates hook.
Agreed.
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I thought thugs get lonely too was great.The beat fit the song perfect with nates hook.
the only redeeming part about the raping (!) of that 2pac track was nate dogg on the hook. the beat sounded like some cheap background music and 2pacs vocals were completely fucked with.
Yeah. Nate Dogg was much better on the hook than that chick from the OG version. The beat was pretty boring though.
I have to say though that Em's version of "Don't You Trust Me" is far better than the OG. Dido fixation or not, Em made that song listenable. The OG version sucks. That's probably the only instance where you'll ever hear me say that about an Eminem remix of a 2pac song versus the OG, but I really did not care for the OG version at all.
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Ill second that on dont you trust me.I enjoyed crooked nigga too.
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em has some dope productions by himself, there's no doubt about that
one of my favorites has to be "Love Me" from 8 Mile OST.cold ass beat and a great song
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em has some dope productions by himself, there's no doubt about that
one of my favorites has to be "Love Me" from 8 Mile OST.cold ass beat and a great song
That was a tight track. I tend to overlook some of the tracks on the 8 Mile Soundtrack, but there were some good songs on there.
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but why you think people dont like his work or dont get the credit he deserves?
Because he's a mainstream artist. A lot of people with diverse hip-hop tastes aren't comfortable with giving Eminem that much credit because in doing so, they may come off as having limited knowledge of the music. There are a lot of Eminem fans who only know MTV or radio and hip-hop heads generally get nervous about being grouped in with those kinds of fans. They'd rather throw out some generic monotone rapper from the West because at least, it implies that they know of rap music that didn't cross over to the pop charts. And I'm not saying you have to love him or even be a fan but you have to give him credit as an artist or to me, you're a hater. 90% of the folks bitching would fucking embrace the shit out of a rapper who was half as talented and only rhymed about low riders and gang-banging.
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When was the last time em actaully produced something, i wouldnt expext many tracks from him but he will definitly have some verses.
The competative side of him will come out.
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When was the last time em actaully produced something, i wouldnt expext many tracks from him but he will definitly have some verses.
The competative side of him will come out.
He produced beautiful I believe.
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^he did.
he doesn't produce for anybody; he was producing for Ca$his & Obie on his label & they are irrelevant as of now.
so i expect him to produce a decent chunk of the album.
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I cant wait for obie to drop another album.Ive bought all 3 of his albums and all 3 are great albums
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I cant wait for obie to drop another album.Ive bought all 3 of his albums and all 3 are great albums
i never got around to his third album, but his first two were mad good.
Cheers was like a powerhouse album for Obie; he was fucking with Shady right in prime when Aftermath was running music with G-Unit & shit.
had them all over the album; even a verse from Dre; it was epic lol.
Second Round's On Me was right there with it too; it was more focused on Obie instead of features & stuff.
Cheers will always be better to me, but Second Round's On Me was the shit. 8)
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I hope to god the production is better.
Slaughter has access to top notch producers now son
my thing is, i want to hear to new excuse people come up with when the second album comes. :D
THe same as now, They try to sound too much like a rapper
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I hope to god the production is better.
Slaughter has access to top notch producers now son
my thing is, i want to hear to new excuse people come up with when the second album comes. :D
THe same as now, They try to sound too much like a rapper
so people complain & complain that there is no "real rap" left & how they hate the new sound & then Slaughterhouse brings you guys what you want & it's not good enough? -_-
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I hope to god the production is better.
Slaughter has access to top notch producers now son
my thing is, i want to hear to new excuse people come up with when the second album comes. :D
THe same as now, They try to sound too much like a rapper
so people complain & complain that there is no "real rap" left & how they hate the new sound & then Slaughterhouse brings you guys what you want & it's not good enough? -_-
People are retarded.
They rap about rapping and they hate that, then a second later they say KRS & Rakim are the Greatest
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I hope to god the production is better.
Slaughter has access to top notch producers now son
my thing is, i want to hear to new excuse people come up with when the second album comes. :D
THe same as now, They try to sound too much like a rapper
so people complain & complain that there is no "real rap" left & how they hate the new sound & then Slaughterhouse brings you guys what you want & it's not good enough? -_-
People are retarded.
They rap about rapping and they hate that, then a second later they say KRS & Rakim are the Greatest
what's even more funny is that rappers like Slaughterhouse talk about bringing real hip hop back but then they are too afraid to call out the wack rappers. Wack MCs would have been the perfect track to name names.
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Slaughterhouse is a bunch of mixtape rappers who can't make a decent coherent song to save their life
Obie Trice>>>>any of those 4
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Slaughterhouse is a bunch of mixtape rappers who can't make a decent coherent song to save their life
Obie Trice>>>>any of those 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/nHgUFHll3aM
i love all of Obie's work, but Move On is better than any song he's made.
as for the album, it did have some thrown together verses & some songs with no direction; but overall, pretty damn good. 8)
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I hope to god the production is better.
Slaughter has access to top notch producers now son
my thing is, i want to hear to new excuse people come up with when the second album comes. :D
THe same as now, They try to sound too much like a rapper
so people complain & complain that there is no "real rap" left & how they hate the new sound & then Slaughterhouse brings you guys what you want & it's not good enough? -_-
you do know that the ones that complain, are the ones only listening to big names right?
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Am I the only one who liked the first album's production? I think the album's production was fine. My only negative criticism of the first album was the pointless Joe Budden and phone message skits.
+1 all the beats were ill, esp when you factor in they made it in a week (cuz they had to go on tour)
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Slaughterhouse is a bunch of mixtape rappers who can't make a decent coherent song to save their life
Obie Trice>>>>any of those 4
ever hear the song "Move On"?
go fuck yaself ::)
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I hope to god the production is better.
Slaughter has access to top notch producers now son
my thing is, i want to hear to new excuse people come up with when the second album comes. :D
THe same as now, They try to sound too much like a rapper
so people complain & complain that there is no "real rap" left & how they hate the new sound & then Slaughterhouse brings you guys what you want & it's not good enough? -_-
People are retarded.
They rap about rapping and they hate that, then a second later they say KRS & Rakim are the Greatest
what's even more funny is that rappers like Slaughterhouse talk about bringing real hip hop back but then they are too afraid to call out the wack rappers. Wack MCs would have been the perfect track to name names.
Royce Did call out Jim Jones, Soulja Boy & Rick Ross somewhere on the album.
But people don't like namecalling, look at game
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I hope to god the production is better.
Slaughter has access to top notch producers now son
my thing is, i want to hear to new excuse people come up with when the second album comes. :D
THe same as now, They try to sound too much like a rapper
so people complain & complain that there is no "real rap" left & how they hate the new sound & then Slaughterhouse brings you guys what you want & it's not good enough? -_-
People are retarded.
They rap about rapping and they hate that, then a second later they say KRS & Rakim are the Greatest
what's even more funny is that rappers like Slaughterhouse talk about bringing real hip hop back but then they are too afraid to call out the wack rappers. Wack MCs would have been the perfect track to name names.
Royce Did call out Jim Jones, Soulja Boy & Rick Ross somewhere on the album.
But people don't like namecalling, look at game
no, they don't like NAME DROPPING ;)
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Slaughterhouse is a bunch of mixtape rappers who can't make a decent coherent song to save their life
Obie Trice>>>>any of those 4
What a complete load of shit.
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namedropping is what game does. Referencing other rappers in every track and using their names/albums as punchlines.
calling out rappers for being wack is an entirely different thing, and is what Slaughterhouse would be doing if they had the balls. Instead they call themselves real hip hop and talk about the mainstream in general being wack because they are scared of being blackballed if they named names. They are a product of the industry like everyone else, they just happen to be able to spit.
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namedropping is what game does. Referencing other rappers in every track and using their names/albums as punchlines.
calling out rappers for being wack is an entirely different thing, and is what Slaughterhouse would be doing if they had the balls. Instead they call themselves real hip hop and talk about the mainstream in general being wack because they are scared of being blackballed if they named names. They are a product of the industry like everyone else, they just happen to be able to spit.
real hip-hop isnt about calling out wack rappers. Thats called a waste of time. They spit rhymes over beats and they do it well. Nothing wrong with that.
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it seems like everyone is a pussy; nobody calls out good rappers.
Joe Budden called out Meth, which almost turned to Budden vs. Wu-Tang; would have been epic.
i give Game credit for calling out Jay-Z.
but it seems like all the other shit talking is people calling out Soulja Boy & wack rappers.
i mean shit, i'm better than Soulja Boy too; it doesn't take much to call out a scrub.
you got multiple people calling themselves the best; i can't think of a rapper who hasn't called himself the best; so we need these guys calling each other out.
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it seems like everyone is a pussy; nobody calls out good rappers.
Joe Budden called out Meth, which almost turned to Budden vs. Wu-Tang; would have been epic.
i give Game credit for calling out Jay-Z.
but it seems like all the other shit talking is people calling out Soulja Boy & wack rappers.
i mean shit, i'm better than Soulja Boy too; it doesn't take much to call out a scrub.
you got multiple people calling themselves the best; i can't think of a rapper who hasn't called himself the best; so we need these guys calling each other out.
Truthfully, the Budden-Meth thing could have been interesting but the thing is rap feuds for the most part are played out. Very little good music comes from it. Just a lot of YouTube videos and blogs.
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it seems like everyone is a pussy; nobody calls out good rappers.
Joe Budden called out Meth, which almost turned to Budden vs. Wu-Tang; would have been epic.
i give Game credit for calling out Jay-Z.
but it seems like all the other shit talking is people calling out Soulja Boy & wack rappers.
i mean shit, i'm better than Soulja Boy too; it doesn't take much to call out a scrub.
you got multiple people calling themselves the best; i can't think of a rapper who hasn't called himself the best; so we need these guys calling each other out.
No one called out Soulja Boy except for Ice T. It was interesting that almost everyone who was asked about it said something along the lines of "he's making money, doing his own thing. Ice T shouldn't have said that." Inside they agreed with Ice T but they were all too pussy to admit it.
Budden vs. Wu Tang would've been epic. But cmon, out of all the rappers on that list he calls out Meth, someone who actually puts out good music!? If he had the balls he would've called out lil wayne, the hottest rapper in the game, not a legend from the 90s who doesn't sell records anymore. Oh but I forgot, they've already kissed Lil Wayne's ass in interviews ::)
Why would you call out a good rapper who you like? It doesn't make sense, apart from some friendly competition. It used to be that someone who wanted to make a name would attack whoever was hottest at the moment. But I seriously believe that there must be some inside scam because I don't understand how half of music fans can hate lil wayne yet no rapper is brave enough to diss him. Face it, your heroes are too scared to call out the names of anyone popular in the industry. I'm straight out calling them hypocrites because they generalize with songs like Wack Mcs but in reality they aren't brave enough to "slaughter" any individual rapper.
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^not just Soulja Boy, but other weak rappers like Soulja Boy.
& like you said, why diss someone if you like them? you just assume that everybody in Slaughterhouse hates Lil' Wayne?
Joe Budden's favorite rapper? Eminem. Royce's boy? Eminem.
Eminem? recently did a song with Lil' Wayne; why would they diss him?
& let's face it, only people selling records (kind of) are Eminem, Lil' Wayne, Jay-Z, Kanye West & T.I.; i see Drake selling pretty well for his debut.
but other than them, nobody else sells, why would you diss one of them, the only rappers with major fanbases that buys albums? you're only affecting your chances of losing fans & selling less.
Slaughterhouse could of lyrically murked Lil' Wayne worse than Nas did Jay & Pac did Big, but it wouldn't change anything; Wayne would still sell & Slaughterhouse would only get hate for it.
i'm just using Slaughterhouse as an example, but the same thing applies for anybody else trying to make it.
i want to see major beef like Jay/Nas, Big/Pac, Dre/Eazy, etc.
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"he's making money, doing his own thing."
I never understood this.
He killed 3 people but it's cool he's getting money
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^not just Soulja Boy, but other weak rappers like Soulja Boy.
& like you said, why diss someone if you like them? you just assume that everybody in Slaughterhouse hates Lil' Wayne?
Joe Budden's favorite rapper? Eminem. Royce's boy? Eminem.
Eminem? recently did a song with Lil' Wayne; why would they diss him?
& let's face it, only people selling records (kind of) are Eminem, Lil' Wayne, Jay-Z, Kanye West & T.I.; i see Drake selling pretty well for his debut.
but other than them, nobody else sells, why would you diss one of them, the only rappers with major fanbases that buys albums? you're only affecting your chances of losing fans & selling less.
Slaughterhouse could of lyrically murked Lil' Wayne worse than Nas did Jay & Pac did Big, but it wouldn't change anything; Wayne would still sell & Slaughterhouse would only get hate for it.
i'm just using Slaughterhouse as an example, but the same thing applies for anybody else trying to make it.
i want to see major beef like Jay/Nas, Big/Pac, Dre/Eazy, etc.
That's where you're wrong. It's been done before. The way KRS One did the Juice Crew. The way Canibus did LL Cool J. The way 50 did Ja. Someone going at Lil wayne WOULD be big beef. The reason they don't is because they are scared plain and simple. If they were really a "slaughterhouse" they would be slaughtering the fake rappers like they talk about in songs. These dudes make songs about how they are real hip hop and the mainstream is wack, yet they suck up to the mainstream rappers in interviews. Hypocrites.
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Or maybe they actually like lil wayne?Just because you have your own personal feelings about an artist doesnt mean they share them.
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Or maybe they actually like lil wayne?Just because you have your own personal feelings about an artist doesnt mean they share them.
the point is they are afraid to go at anyone who represents the mainstream. Lil Wayne was just an example. Its hypocritical to talk about how wack the mainstream is and then suck up to the rappers who represent the mainstream.
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Whats to be gained by it?This isnt canibus vs ll,where it would an even fight.What could they possibly gain?The fan bases arent the same,people like who they like and I dont think slaughterhouse ethering some bum who cant make a good diss song back would very entertaining.Noboyd is going to care about the diss songs,it would gain them nothing except making another enemy who has more pull in the industry.Call it what you want but in the end it would be stupid and wouldnt be entertaiing to anyone.
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If wu tang and slaughterhouse had happened,that would be entertaining.But I dont want to see them diss rappers for being wack that we already know are wack,thats just lame.40 glocc type of begging for attention that gets you nowhere.
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When I heard Crooked talk about the mainstream I appreciate that he didn't diss them but acknowledges there's a place for Young Money and there needs to a place for other styles or it'll become a sour apple soon.
They need to start their own label. I don't understand these rappers talking about money yet won't invest in their own business.
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Whats to be gained by it?This isnt canibus vs ll,where it would an even fight.What could they possibly gain?The fan bases arent the same,people like who they like and I dont think slaughterhouse ethering some bum who cant make a good diss song back would very entertaining.Noboyd is going to care about the diss songs,it would gain them nothing except making another enemy who has more pull in the industry.Call it what you want but in the end it would be stupid and wouldnt be entertaiing to anyone.
Canibus and LL never had the same fanbase. LL mostly made music for the bitches and Canibus was being hella lyrical. No one thought it was a fair fight at first, and everyone was surprised when LL actually came back with a great diss. You don't think anyone would care if Slaughterhouse dissed a mainstream rapper? They would be doing the one thing that everyone who hates the mainstream wishes would happen and people like me would finally be able to stand behind them. It could very well make their fanbase bigger. But right now I see them as fakes. Because the group is supposed to be the "lyrical slaughterhouse", a group of 4 emcees who can slaughter any rapper and don't give a fuck about the mainstream. Instead they are "the group who probably could but don't because they don't want any trouble".
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LL had long established he had skills on the mic,thats how he came into the game.You think soulja boy is suddenly going to turn around and turn into ll cool j on the mic?you really want to see slaughterhouse vs some bum?Thats entertaining to you?It would not help them at all,look at 40 glocc,what has all his wayne bashing gotten him?Nothing.
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If wu tang and slaughterhouse had happened,that would be entertaining.But I dont want to see them diss rappers for being wack that we already know are wack,thats just lame.40 glocc type of begging for attention that gets you nowhere.
hip hop fans are sheep. They don't know or won't acknowledge someone as weak until another rapper says it. That's how the whole Ja Rule situation played out. We knew Ja Rule was wack the whole time right? But we let his music continue to get played, and let our bitches continue to think he was dope. Until this guy named 50 Cent came along and said what we were all feeling. And then we said "yeeah" and refused to support him any longer. And it blew 50s career up.
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LL had long established he had skills on the mic,thats how he came into the game.You think soulja boy is suddenly going to turn around and turn into ll cool j on the mic?you really want to see slaughterhouse vs some bum?Thats entertaining to you?It would not help them at all,look at 40 glocc,what has all his wayne bashing gotten him?Nothing.
he had skills, but he had skills that were considered dope in the 80s. If you were around at the time you would know he had been dropping music for the bitches for a long time and NO ONE thought he could fuck with Canibus on a lyrical level.
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The 50 situation was completely different,ja rule was getting played out on his own.50 was becoming a star for more reasons then dissing ja rule.In da club made 50 a star,that had nothing to do with ja rule.With or without that beef he was a superstar.And again Ja rule is still better then 90 percent of the mainstream people out today.i mean his diss to eminem was the best diss anyone has ever thrown at eminem on wax.And most people will now admit that ja rules music is much better then the shit going on now.
Again,nothing can be gained by this.I just dont get the hyprocritical arguement and it feels like your just reaching for a reason to hate.
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And I was around back then and people were scared to get on a song with canibus lol.But again ll still had that history of being able to rock the mic.
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The Soulja Boy situation is a good reference. Remember when Ice T said Soulja Boy killed hip hop? Of course you do cause that became a fucking catchphrase. Another example of how hip hop fans are sheep.
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The 50 situation was completely different,ja rule was getting played out on his own.50 was becoming a star for more reasons then dissing ja rule.In da club made 50 a star,that had nothing to do with ja rule.With or without that beef he was a superstar.And again Ja rule is still better then 90 percent of the mainstream people out today.i mean his diss to eminem was the best diss anyone has ever thrown at eminem on wax.And most people will now admit that ja rules music is much better then the shit going on now.
Again,nothing can be gained by this.I just dont get the hyprocritical arguement and it feels like your just reaching for a reason to hate.
Don't try and take that victory away from 50. He took Ja out the game. I'm not even a very big fan of 50 but that was all his. And that played a big part of his success. I don't see how you can deny that.
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If wu tang and slaughterhouse had happened,that would be entertaining.But I dont want to see them diss rappers for being wack that we already know are wack,thats just lame.40 glocc type of begging for attention that gets you nowhere.
hip hop fans are sheep. They don't know or won't acknowledge someone as weak until another rapper says it. That's how the whole Ja Rule situation played out. We knew Ja Rule was wack the whole time right? But we let his music continue to get played, and let our bitches continue to think he was dope. Until this guy named 50 Cent came along and said what we were all feeling. And then we said "yeeah" and refused to support him any longer. And it blew 50s career up.
Or how about how no one will listen to Ja Rule now just because he lost a beef, lol.