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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: wardy on April 28, 2010, 10:49:02 AM
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2900 >:(
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.11129/title.
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honestly not very surprising, not too much promo outside the net... at least BlaQKout had some coverage in XXL
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Devin the dude outsold Kurupt.. wow?!
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It's a shame no1 looks out for quality music.
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who cares what it sold, what fuckin' difference does it make? 8)
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Congrats Kurupt, You still have 2,900 fans in the whole world ;D
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who cares what it sold, what fuckin' difference does it make? 8)
Exactly, as long as the music is good it doesn't mean shit.
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damn thats crazy tho....his singles back in the day prolly sold more in 3 days....lol
Congrats Kurupt, You still have 2,900 fans in the whole world ;D
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and Gucci Mane's mixtape sold 30k, lol and smh
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Kurupt is shooting a video for "Questions" and I imagine he'll be touring with Snoop. Hopefully the album will sell consistently over time. Okay, so it's never going to be much of a success, but that's how it is these days - a lot of artists have to really work their album.
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It's a shame no1 looks out for quality music.
the sales will stay that way, as long as the industry continues to sleep & live in denial
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who cares what it sold, what fuckin' difference does it make? 8)
Exactly, as long as the music is good it doesn't mean shit.
well it means kurupt probably wont release another cd on his own
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Devin the dude outsold Kurupt.. wow?!
that surprised you? :-X
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It's a shame no1 looks out for quality music.
the sales will stay that way, as long as the industry continues to sleep & live in denial
lol..ok buddy...
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nobody "buys" cds! that doesnt mean kurupt has 2900 fans lol, that just mean 2900 people are dumb enough to pay for something they can get for free! 8)
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it means that 2900 people actually care about their favorite artist and they have supported him
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lol
nobody "buys" cds! that doesnt mean kurupt has 2900 fans lol, that just mean 2900 people are dumb enough to pay for something they can get for free! 8)
did he even make his money back he put into it?
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Gucci Mane has a lot of hype surrounding him..
Kurupt has hype around him in 1992.
I don't need to tell you how long ago that was.
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i don't owe these muthafuckers shit! they got money! i own damn near 1000 cds! im done buying cds! these fucks got money! not just kurupt (im a fan) but artists in general.... 8) make a classic cd with more then 12 goods songs, no skits, and maybe i wont steal it! otherwise fuck spending $20 on something i can get for free 8)
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Even selling 2,900 copies first week, $$ was definitely made..that's at least a profit of 20 G's in one week they made.."they" being everyone involved, but remember it's still $$ made..
U shouldve just left that one alone, bruh.
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^^ No doubt..
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to be honost i dont undestand why people are crying for his sales 60% of the fans in here dont use money on his albums. most people in here wait for a album to leak on the internet and download it instead..
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no surprise at all.. Kurupt is a nobody in todays music. unfortunately but the quality is not REALLY there anymore.
Most of us said it was a good album.
We would not have said that if it was released in 97.
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Only GAME releases quality albums and they sell major units.
No hot singles on radio means low album sales.
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no surprise at all.. Kurupt is a nobody in todays music. unfortunately but the quality is not REALLY there anymore.
Most of us said it was a good album.
We would not have said that if it was released in 97.
but it wasn't released in 97. Why does everyone always compare??
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I expect another video with Kurupt bitching at his fans again.
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Even selling 2,900 copies first week, $$ was definitely made..that's at least a profit of 20 G's in one week they made.."they" being everyone involved, but remember it's still $$ made..
U shouldve just left that one alone, bruh.
Did he delete that? Anyway, unless the album cost $0.00 to make, there was not a profit of anything.
The only people that should care about sales are the people with a financial interest in the work. If not, who cares.
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Ima gon buy one !!! I love this Mc we got to get his hype on !!!!!
Westcoast need us
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lol
I expect another video with Kurupt bitching at his fans again.
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Even selling 2,900 copies first week, $$ was definitely made..that's at least a profit of 20 G's in one week they made.."they" being everyone involved, but remember it's still $$ made..
U shouldve just left that one alone, bruh.
Did he delete that? Anyway, unless the album cost $0.00 to make, there was not a profit of anything.
The only people that should care about sales are the people with a financial interest in the work. If not, who cares.
I realized I shouldn't comment but I still stand by my comments. I bet you this album cost nothing to make. Terrace & Kurupt are tight, Terrace is probably taking money on the back end (sales). All the guest appearances are homies and did it for free (I assume). Even the Lil Jon track is old as hell, I'm sure his only $ coming in off this will be the publishing/royalties.
I bet the only cost of making this album was the pressing of physical copies...which we all know is DIRT cheap.
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Yeah the majority of this album was produced at Terrace's house.
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are people surprised at the hill's numbers tho or even kurupts?
and for how long can you keep blamin downloadin?
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no surprise at all.. Kurupt is a nobody in todays music. unfortunately but the quality is not REALLY there anymore.
Most of us said it was a good album.
We would not have said that if it was released in 97.
but it wasn't released in 97. Why does everyone always compare??
I think its relevant to compare to a time where rappers sold cd's. Now they dont and PART OF the reason is downloading. but steady decline in quality is also a serious factor.. and Streetlights is only dope in 09/10-standards..
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Devin the dude outsold Kurupt.. wow?!
that surprised you? :-X
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i'm definitely gonna buy it soon!
i hope the low sales won't make physical cd's disapear..
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It's funny how album sales in this forum seem to determine the quality of the release. Like if the album sold 100k it would make it sound 10 times better or something.
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It's funny how album sales in this forum seem to determine the quality of the release. Like if the album sold 100k it would make it sound 10 times better or something.
Good point, but this is sad.
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Id be interested to know how many people in this thread bought the album and didnt bootleg....hmmmmm
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I am not ashamed to admit at all, I bought Devin, Cypress and Kurupt when they came out.
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how or why would you be ashamed that you bought it? lol
I am not ashamed to admit at all, I bought Devin, Cypress and Kurupt when they came out.
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how or why would you be ashamed that you bought it? lol
I am not ashamed to admit at all, I bought Devin, Cypress and Kurupt when they came out.
I'm not. I just see comments from people saying wow who are the 3000 idiots that bought that album and shit like that. If I dig the artists and their music, I support them and buy the album. Simple as that.
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its Positive that people still buy music from an artist..
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aite....you jus made it seem like you were ashamed to have bought the cd's but then your tellin it like it is...lol
how or why would you be ashamed that you bought it? lol
I am not ashamed to admit at all, I bought Devin, Cypress and Kurupt when they came out.
I'm not. I just see comments from people saying wow who are the 3000 idiots that bought that album and shit like that. If I dig the artists and their music, I support them and buy the album. Simple as that.
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3000 isn't bad considering Kurupt hasn't had a hit record in 9 years.
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Even selling 2,900 copies first week, $$ was definitely made..that's at least a profit of 20 G's in one week they made.."they" being everyone involved, but remember it's still $$ made..
U shouldve just left that one alone, bruh.
hahaha oh shit the kid with the imaginary career in the music industry doesnt even know the difference between revenue and profit
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^ your an idiot, I already addressed that and stated the album probably cost virtually nothing to make..
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^ your an idiot, I already addressed that and stated the album probably cost virtually nothing to make..
haha im the idiot? what you delete the post for then? and anyway even if your dumbass assumptions about it being basically free to make are true what about the money retailers take off top? surely a great businessman like yourself knows its not just a little bit. then divide the leftover money up between everyone involved and it was basically a waste of time for them
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^ not because I don't stand by it (as stated in my later post, I do) but I feel I probably shouldn't be commenting on certain things.
So don't say I don't know the difference between revenue and profit when I addressed that from the very beginning. Highly doubt this album cost much (if anything at all) to make. Produced at Terrace's house, homie guest appearances, etc.
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^ not because I don't stand by it (as stated in my later post, I do) but I feel I probably shouldn't be commenting on certain things.
So don't say I don't know the difference between revenue and profit when I addressed that from the very beginning. Highly doubt this album cost much (if anything at all) to make. Produced at Terrace's house, homie guest appearances, etc.
ok and terracee didnt charge them, he didnt pay any guests and they just sold it out of their cars right?
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U think Terrace charges Kurupt for beats? lol, he definitely takes his money off the back end (sales).
U actually think Kurupt paid Roscoe, Problem, Uncle Chucc, Tone, J. Black etc. to appear on this album? No, Kurupt is a bigger name than them so they all did it for free + they are all friends, just like Kurupt would return the favor for them on their projects for free even though he is a bigger name.
The only bigger/same level names on this album are Lil Jon, Snoop Dogg, Xzibit & DJ Quik
Lil Jon = track is old as hell, $ for it (if any $ was paid) didn't come off a budget from this album, but either a long time ago OR paperwork for Jon to get his royalties/publishing..
Snoop Dogg - highly doubt Kurupt is paying for Snoop verses
Xzibit - favor for a favor. Come back here and announce me as being correct when u see Kurupt appear on the next Xzibit album.
Quik - he's apart of the team now, Kurupt is not paying for Quik
Certainly not a waste of time at all. If that were the case, little distributors like Fontana, Duck Down, Real Talk Ent., etc (distributors that tend to only sell a few thousand copies of each release) would be shut down by now, not still going strong in 2010 with PLENTY releases only selling 1-5K copies..
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U think Terrace charges Kurupt for beats? lol, he definitely takes his money off the back end (sales).
U actually think Kurupt paid Roscoe, Problem, Uncle Chucc, Tone, J. Black etc. to appear on this album? No, Kurupt is a bigger name than them so they all did it for free + they are all friends, just like Kurupt would return the favor for them on their projects for free even though he is a bigger name.
The only bigger/same level names on this album are Lil Jon, Snoop Dogg, Xzibit & DJ Quik
Lil Jon = track is old as hell, $ for it (if any $ was paid) didn't come off a budget from this album, but either a long time ago OR paperwork for Jon to get his royalties/publishing..
Snoop Dogg - highly doubt Kurupt is paying for Snoop verses
Xzibit - favor for a favor. Come back here and announce me as being correct when u see Kurupt appear on the next Xzibit album.
Quik - he's apart of the team now, Kurupt is not paying for Quik
Certainly not a waste of time at all. If that were the case, little distributors like Fontana, Duck Down, Real Talk Ent., etc (distributors that tend to only sell a few thousand copies of each release) would be shut down by now, not still going strong in 2010 with PLENTY releases only selling 1-5K copies..
so what is all this supposed to prove exactly, that you love to assume shit and act like its fact?
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^ No, and anyone with real music industry knowledge would know that I know what I'm talking about..
but I love how u didn't address ANY of what I just said..no comeback arguments?
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^ No, and anyone with real music industry knowledge would know that I know what I'm talking about..
but I love how u didn't address ANY of what I just said..no comeback arguments?
real music industry knowledge? hahaha whens kocturnal dropping man, last january right? or does he still have that one verse to finish? and why would i argue against the shit youre guessing, like i said its noting but assumptions
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^ its really 'cause u aint got shit to say
i know u don't truly believe kurupt is paying j. black, tone, uncle chucc, etc for their features ::)
don't get me wrong, they're dope artists but they need all the exposure they can get this early in their career. Appearing on a Kurupt album benefits them, not the other way around
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^ its really 'cause u aint got shit to say
i know u don't truly believe kurupt is paying j. black, tone, uncle chucc, etc for their features ::)
don't get me wrong, they're dope artists but they need all the exposure they can get this early in their career. Appearing on a Kurupt album benefits them, not the other way around
yeah youre right man, AT LEAST 20 grand in profits off less than 3000 copies sold. how could i be so dumb?
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Fuck sales! They r legends.
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Shit...I buy any DPGC/Kurupt album I can find at ANYTIME wherever I am...If I don't have it...I cop it when I see it. I bought Streetlights on 4/20. He's one of my favorite and always will be. I don't jump on any bandwagon or jump ship. I like what I like, if noone else does...i don't give a fucc! Sucks he only sold 2.9k...but those are the real fans of his. That including Digital downloads as well or physical CD's only? The album is dope and I support the WEST baby! We still 8).
I'd really like to see Kurupt do a Streetz Iz A Mutha 2 (maybe 17-18 traccs deep). Have some Dre, Warreng G, Soopafly, Daz, Battlecat, Fredwreck, Quik production (or some as Executive Producers) And some guests like a 4horsemen track (which is still supposed to go down) or a Riflemen track and maybe another collabo with Pete Rock and Inspectah Deck, Crooked I, Planet Asia, Buckshot, any member of DPGC spittin, Xzibit, Tash, J-Ro, J. Wells.....I know not all of this is possible on one album...but if he was to do a Streetz II....some of these features and producers would be HOT!
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That's disappointing but not really surprising. I'd be surprised if more than 10'000 copies were pressed for worldwide sales because every non-American website I've seen seems to be selling an import. And there are a few other things that need to be considered.
1. Hip-Hop fans download everything. If they like the album they might come down to Kurupt's next show. That in itself would net him more money than the few bucks off the CD.
2. It's an independent album with two videos that were shot well but not expensively and pretty much exclusive internet promo/ads. What else can you expect?
3. It probably didn't cost a whole lot to make.
All that aside, I like the CD. I can't justify importing it until I've got a couple of other albums to cut down on shipping costs but the next time Kurupt comes to Australia I'll be one of the first to buy a ticket.
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Id be interested to know how many people in this thread bought the album and didnt bootleg....hmmmmm
Seriously...make an anonymous poll thread and sticky it and have us answer honestly. I'd like to see the responses. Remember, that it is US who are the Kurupt fans. If we don't buy his album, then nobody will.
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what do you mean by us?.....he got fans overseas dont he or that dont post on here?
Id be interested to know how many people in this thread bought the album and didnt bootleg....hmmmmm
Seriously...make an anonymous poll thread and sticky it and have us answer honestly. I'd like to see the responses. Remember, that it is US who are the Kurupt fans. If we don't buy his album, then nobody will.
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Devin the dude outsold Kurupt.. wow?!
being honest devin's album is better, and devin is another who has yet to spit a complete wacc verse yell
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anyone with real music industry knowledge would know that I know what I'm talking about
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anyone with real music industry knowledge would know that I know what I'm talking about
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If U don't see what I'm saying, that's ya own fault
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cypress hill had the same amount of promotion as kurupt,maybe less,because i knew kurupt album was comeing out and i seen kurupt video,but i didnt know cypress album was out untill after it was out.and i didnt see any cypress hill video.i guess cypress got more solid fans thats all.both albums had no promotion whats so ever tho.
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cypress hill had the same amount of promotion as kurupt,maybe less,because i knew kurupt album was comeing out and i seen kurupt video,but i didnt know cypress album was out untill after it was out.and i didnt see any cypress hill video.i guess cypress got more solid fans thats all.both albums had no promotion whats so ever tho.
I dunno, Cypress had videos months in advance, performed on George Lopez, etc.
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anyone with real music industry knowledge would know that I know what I'm talking about
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If U don't see what I'm saying, that's ya own fault
You're assuming again.
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U know as well as me these cats didn't approach Kurupt asking for $ to appear on his album ::)
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Both Kurupt and Cypress had more online promo then anything else. Cypress had a couple more TV show features. They tour alot so like someone said earlier maybe the numbers will stay steady for a bit.
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U know as well as me these cats didn't approach Kurupt asking for $ to appear on his album ::)
You're assuming again.
How would I know?
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U know as well as me these cats didn't approach Kurupt asking for $ to appear on his album ::)
How do you know that for a fact? You are flat out assuming.
Money is the #1 reason for break ups, beefs, and album delays.
Hell, it is the reason why kurupt went back to the row. I wouldn't doubt that some of these appearances are done for free, but I don't know for a fact that all of them are and neither do you.
Ain't no way in hell kurupt made $20gz profit off these sales. That would mean he is making $6.67 profit per cd sold. No fucking way. What is the going cost for a cd these days? $12? So $12 - $6.67 = $5.33 x 3000 = $15,990. So you are saying total expenses for 3000 cd's is approximately $16K? I seriously doubt that...but maybe you being a real music insider could shed some light onto this for me.
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dont know what city/state or even country your in...but not all if any cd's these days are $12.00.......you know the artist can control the price of the cd to a certain extent
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exactly, CD prices vary depending on where u at.. For example if I found the Kurupt album around here in Canada, I know it wouldn't be cheaper than 16.99, possibly all the way up to $19.99 so it's difficult to say..
And I'm not saying Kurupt himself made all that, I don't know what he made because I don't know (nor is it my business) what his splits are with the label.. But the album all around should have profited around that for the week (and obviously that money is split by the label, kurupt, etc)
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There was really good radio single. Most people mostly don't even know he put out a new .
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bottom line..most people have accepted that this isnt kurupt from the death row days...not even close to the space boogie days for that matter...ever think maybe THATS one of the reasons he aint sellin as much? The music isnt up to par...like someone else said...why these comparisons on if this was 97 blah blah...it aint...and just because the music isnt hardly as good..doesnt mean WE have to drop our standards...au contraire...they need to pick it up...
btw, out of the 10 or so people i asked, none of them even have the intention of downloading this...
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Uhm, not trying to kick off the "profit" discussion again Lunatic, but I have to agree with everybody who criticized what you said. Nobody said you are wrong, but the way you talk makes it seem like you KNOW, when you really have no clue and are assuming based on what you think makes sense.
Oh and I can see all those guest appearances being done for free, but you do realize that as long as an album hasn't recouped all the marketing/promotion costs, it is not making profit? If you press up 3000 cds yourself and sell them out the trunk, then yeah, you're making profit. Buzt there's a whole team involved here, they filmed 2 videos, they had the KCNN episodes, etc. Again, I have no idea how much money was or wasn't made, but neither do you, which is why people jumped on you for your comment.
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Uhm, not trying to kick off the "profit" discussion again Lunatic, but I have to agree with everybody who criticized what you said. Nobody said you are wrong, but the way you talk makes it seem like you KNOW, when you really have no clue and are assuming based on what you think makes sense.
Oh and I can see all those guest appearances being done for free, but you do realize that as long as an album hasn't recouped all the marketing/promotion costs, it is not making profit? If you press up 3000 cds yourself and sell them out the trunk, then yeah, you're making profit. Buzt there's a whole team involved here, they filmed 2 videos, they had the KCNN episodes, etc. Again, I have no idea how much money was or wasn't made, but neither do you, which is why people jumped on you for your comment.
As I stated, I don't know but I'm being realistic here.
We can both see all these guest appearances being done for free or for favors in return, etc. I doubt this album has seen much marketing/promotion costs. Some, but not many (no budget breakers). Weren't the videos done by Dah Dah? He seems to be an in house director over there at DPG, doubt he charges them much at all.
All I'm saying is that money was definitely made.
As stated, there is a reason labels like Duck Down, Real Talk Ent., etc. only sound scan a few thousand copies of each release yet are still going strong making money. These projects don't cost much to make.
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Well i bought it, from amazon. The store doen here didnt have it and it wasnt on their list, not even on teh imports list but i think the store is a bit shit.
It is a shame that there arnt many cd collectors anymore, growing up me and my freinds all collected them but no young people seem to.
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It's a shame no1 looks out for quality music.
the sales will stay that way, as long as the industry continues to sleep & live in denial
lol..ok buddy...
you're telling me the industry isn't sleeping? :eh:
Even selling 2,900 copies first week, $$ was definitely made..that's at least a profit of 20 G's in one week they made.."they" being everyone involved, but remember it's still $$ made..
U shouldve just left that one alone, bruh.
Did he delete that? Anyway, unless the album cost $0.00 to make, there was not a profit of anything.
The only people that should care about sales are the people with a financial interest in the work. If not, who cares.
ain't that the truth? props
are people surprised at the hill's numbers tho or even kurupts?
and for how long can you keep blamin downloadin?
as long as there are conservatives i guess
how or why would you be ashamed that you bought it? lol
I am not ashamed to admit at all, I bought Devin, Cypress and Kurupt when they came out.
I'm not. I just see comments from people saying wow who are the 3000 idiots that bought that album and shit like that. If I dig the artists and their music, I support them and buy the album. Simple as that.
you shouldn't take that too serious, D~Nice.
then again you bought Ego Trippin, so that will be hunting you forever :D
what do you mean by us?.....he got fans overseas dont he or that dont post on here?
Id be interested to know how many people in this thread bought the album and didnt bootleg....hmmmmm
Seriously...make an anonymous poll thread and sticky it and have us answer honestly. I'd like to see the responses. Remember, that it is US who are the Kurupt fans. If we don't buy his album, then nobody will.
well Kurupt is probably bigger in the US than anywhere else
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In my mind, not the sells is the really question.
the really question is in 2015, or later If you remember this record what U say, was it good, or worth to buyin, or hearin...
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yeah and this album was talked about for months in advanced like it was goin to be amazin..... ;D
In my mind, not the sells is the really question.
the really question is in 2015, or later If you remember this record what U say, was it good, or worth to buyin, or hearin...
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Nuthin' is sellin these days. I don't care though, the album was good IMO and i'm buyin myself a copy when i see it in the stores.
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It's a shame no1 looks out for quality music.
the sales will stay that way, as long as the industry continues to sleep & live in denial
lol..ok buddy...
you're telling me the industry isn't sleeping? :eh:
Even selling 2,900 copies first week, $$ was definitely made..that's at least a profit of 20 G's in one week they made.."they" being everyone involved, but remember it's still $$ made..
U shouldve just left that one alone, bruh.
Did he delete that? Anyway, unless the album cost $0.00 to make, there was not a profit of anything.
The only people that should care about sales are the people with a financial interest in the work. If not, who cares.
ain't that the truth? props
are people surprised at the hill's numbers tho or even kurupts?
and for how long can you keep blamin downloadin?
as long as there are conservatives i guess
how or why would you be ashamed that you bought it? lol
I am not ashamed to admit at all, I bought Devin, Cypress and Kurupt when they came out.
I'm not. I just see comments from people saying wow who are the 3000 idiots that bought that album and shit like that. If I dig the artists and their music, I support them and buy the album. Simple as that.
you shouldn't take that too serious, D~Nice.
then again you bought Ego Trippin, so that will be hunting you forever :D
what do you mean by us?.....he got fans overseas dont he or that dont post on here?
Id be interested to know how many people in this thread bought the album and didnt bootleg....hmmmmm
Seriously...make an anonymous poll thread and sticky it and have us answer honestly. I'd like to see the responses. Remember, that it is US who are the Kurupt fans. If we don't buy his album, then nobody will.
well Kurupt is probably bigger in the US than anywhere else
Nah it does not haunt me, I'm good. ;)
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It's a shame no1 looks out for quality music.
the sales will stay that way, as long as the industry continues to sleep & live in denial
lol..ok buddy...
you're telling me the industry isn't sleeping? :eh:
Even selling 2,900 copies first week, $$ was definitely made..that's at least a profit of 20 G's in one week they made.."they" being everyone involved, but remember it's still $$ made..
U shouldve just left that one alone, bruh.
Did he delete that? Anyway, unless the album cost $0.00 to make, there was not a profit of anything.
The only people that should care about sales are the people with a financial interest in the work. If not, who cares.
ain't that the truth? props
are people surprised at the hill's numbers tho or even kurupts?
and for how long can you keep blamin downloadin?
as long as there are conservatives i guess
how or why would you be ashamed that you bought it? lol
I am not ashamed to admit at all, I bought Devin, Cypress and Kurupt when they came out.
I'm not. I just see comments from people saying wow who are the 3000 idiots that bought that album and shit like that. If I dig the artists and their music, I support them and buy the album. Simple as that.
you shouldn't take that too serious, D~Nice.
then again you bought Ego Trippin, so that will be hunting you forever :D
what do you mean by us?.....he got fans overseas dont he or that dont post on here?
Id be interested to know how many people in this thread bought the album and didnt bootleg....hmmmmm
Seriously...make an anonymous poll thread and sticky it and have us answer honestly. I'd like to see the responses. Remember, that it is US who are the Kurupt fans. If we don't buy his album, then nobody will.
well Kurupt is probably bigger in the US than anywhere else
the industry in general is sleeping on talent...sleeping on kurupt though? no..he did about what he shouldve sold..
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Weren't the videos done by Dah Dah?
no. another indication of what you know about the situation.
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the industry in general is sleeping on talent...sleeping on kurupt though? no..he did about what he shouldve sold..
that's not what i said.
the industry is sleeping when it comes to the internet...
i don't think Kurupt could have very high CD sales either.
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Weren't the videos done by Dah Dah?
no. another indication of what you know about the situation.
:D
Regardless, videos can be shot for pretty cheap. Especially a name like Kurupt. Lots of up and coming directors would do it at a discounted price, etc.
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Shit...I dunno what the profit was made off this Streetlights CD for the 1st week.....I just hope Kurupt keeps dropping music, I can't stand listening to the raido and hearing all this commercial junk. I wonder if in a few months they might add those 3 bonus tracks and 1-3 more joints on the Streetlights CD to hopefully pull in additional sales again. This CD will continue to sell...maybe not amazing numbers but more people will buy it and sooner or later. Alotta people I know out here in Arizona didn't even know he dropped a new album and I let them know...played some cuts off the album and now they own the hard copy!
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Congrats Kurupt, You still have 2,900 fans in the whole world ;D
You gotta account for the fact that some people (probably from this forum) bought 3 copies lol
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poor kurupt, cd is hot tho
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Well i bought my copy.
I remember the days when albums were rare because they didnt sell many, well that seems the case with nearly every album now a days.
Do the sales include official downloads also or just physical sales ?
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^ Don't think they include digital sales. They should revamp that soon to include digital sales. Digital plays too big of a part in the game to not be included. I'm sure they'll change that soon (hopefully).
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Even selling 2,900 copies first week, $$ was definitely made..that's at least a profit of 20 G's in one week they made.."they" being everyone involved, but remember it's still $$ made..
U shouldve just left that one alone, bruh.
Did he delete that? Anyway, unless the album cost $0.00 to make, there was not a profit of anything.
The only people that should care about sales are the people with a financial interest in the work. If not, who cares.
networth my equal yell
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Been waiting for the UK release (if ever) but I just ordered this last night from amazon.com
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Shit...I buy any DPGC/Kurupt album I can find at ANYTIME wherever I am...If I don't have it...I cop it when I see it. I bought Streetlights on 4/20. He's one of my favorite and always will be. I don't jump on any bandwagon or jump ship. I like what I like, if noone else does...i don't give a fucc! Sucks he only sold 2.9k...but those are the real fans of his. That including Digital downloads as well or physical CD's only? The album is dope and I support the WEST baby! We still 8).
I'd really like to see Kurupt do a Streetz Iz A Mutha 2 (maybe 17-18 traccs deep). Have some Dre, Warreng G, Soopafly, Daz, Battlecat, Fredwreck, Quik production (or some as Executive Producers) And some guests like a 4horsemen track (which is still supposed to go down) or a Riflemen track and maybe another collabo with Pete Rock and Inspectah Deck, Crooked I, Planet Asia, Buckshot, any member of DPGC spittin, Xzibit, Tash, J-Ro, J. Wells.....I know not all of this is possible on one album...but if he was to do a Streetz II....some of these features and producers would be HOT!
YOU ARE A GREAT FAN MY EQUAL,much respect to you yell
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Well i bought it, from amazon. The store doen here didnt have it and it wasnt on their list, not even on teh imports list but i think the store is a bit shit.
It is a shame that there arnt many cd collectors anymore, growing up me and my freinds all collected them but no young people seem to.
you are another good fan much respect yell
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2,900 units sold LOL damn thats more than a flop homie , streetlights was not a good album
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Kurupt is shooting a video for "Questions" and I imagine he'll be touring with Snoop. Hopefully the album will sell consistently over time. Okay, so it's never going to be much of a success, but that's how it is these days - a lot of artists have to really work their album.
Questions ? thats probally the weakest song on the album . beat is weak
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I can pretty much guarantee no money has been made off of 3000 copies sold. If that few of copies w/ the promo done from this album can generate a profit you would see a lot more people investing in music. Crooked I would have released an album years ago.
All the majors are facing financial problems. There really isn't a ton of money to be made in music anymore. I mean if a profit is made off 3000 cd's sold that would mean someone who sells millions of copies is making millions in profits. Absolutely no way. Like I said, you would see way more investors if that were the case. Instead companies rather shelve a fully completed album and eat the sunk costs rather than invest any more money and try and recoup.
And good lord @ $16.99-$19.99 for a cd!!! No wonder music doesn't sell anymore!
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soundscan is not the end all as well yell
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I don't understand why artists like Kurupt even release albums? I am assuming that paying for production and studio time costs more than they can make in revenues. They have to be losing money.
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I don't understand why artists like Kurupt even release albums? I am assuming that paying for production and studio time costs more than they can make in revenues. They have to be losing money.
Thats why snoop don't sign these guys and put them out. Its sad to realize the reality. Hey I love Dogg Food and got nothing but love for kurupt...but this is the reality.
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I don't understand why artists like Kurupt even release albums? I am assuming that paying for production and studio time costs more than they can make in revenues. They have to be losing money.
See that's the thing... A lot of artists DON'T pay for production depending on who their messing with...Especially albums like this..
I manage Knoc..there are so many hungry, DOPE producers who would be willing to give up their beats to Knoc free in return for just the credit and exposure.. HECK not even just dope new producers - I can get a list of dope well known west coast producers who would give Knoc (or any west coast veteran artist) beats for free off the love.. And then Knoc (like most veteran artists) is in a situation where he doesn't pay for studio time..and BOOM, u have yourself an entire album put together with 0$ spent on production/studio time..and can put together a cool name of guest appearances without spending any money.
Of course if Akon came out and sold 3,000 copies, there would be a tons of money loss 'cause he pays out the ass for guest appearances, etc...that's not the case with these established, veteran artists who are past their selling prime..
If I was wrong, ask yourselves this question..why do u see soooooo many releases from artists come out, sell only a few thousand copies and yet that artist still continues to drop albums? Surely if they were losing themselves and their labels $, they wouldn't be able to come out with more releases - the label wouldn't allow it and no other label would sign the artist. Kurupt will be an example - I doubt that album with him and Roscoe sold much...but Kurupt is able to keep coming out with albums, right? It's because artists like Kurupt, etc. are able to put together an album with minimal costs and still make revenue off it.
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these niggaz need 2 sell their shit out their trunk ... throw away their ego and go grind ... shit..
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this is what you niggaz wanted right, i told you bitch niggaz nobody cares about these old west coast niggaz no more, ice will sell around the same numbers.
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this is what you niggaz wanted right, i told you bitch niggaz nobody cares about these old west coast niggaz no more, ice will sell around the same numbers.
u wrong there mayne u crazy if u think Ice Cube selling under 3,000 copies first week ::)
Cube will sell at least 30K first week..and that's probably still low balling him.
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I know I'm probably the minority here but the reason why I didn't buy Kurupt's album is because I honestly didn't like it. I love Kurupt's older music, the shit is dope but I haven't really been feeling his music for a while. DPG puts out some cool shit sometimes and when they do I'll buy it, but most of the time I'm not really feeling it so I don't, and just to be clear I don't download it for free either; if I don't care enough to buy it I don't download it either. I heard Kurupt's album tracks that were available here on DUBCNN to listen to and I listened to the album snippets on Amazon and I just didn't like it. It had a couple cool tracks but everything else was either boring or just had a different Kurupt sound that I don't care to listen too mainly because the production for the most part was weak as hell. If Tarrence produced most of the album and did it for free then maybe next time Kurupt should pay him to get some tighter beats or work with a different producer. In my opinion Tarrence hasn't really produced a track where I was like DAMN! the one song that he produced that I really liked is Frontline with WC, the beat was straight but Dub ripped it and made it tighter.
Recently I bought Lynch's new album and the Danny Boy album is coming in the mail so I don't mind supporting some good music but I'm not going to just settle for whatever someone puts out even if I don't like it. It's like if you're use to buying bomb ass weed from your boy and all of the sudden he starts selling some wack shit you're not going to keep buying from him just to keep buying from him, it's not anything personal but your going to save your money and wait and buy some bomb from someone elso or maybe from your boy once he get some better shit; it's like the same thing when it come to music for me. I know either way sales are going to be down due to downloading but if the quality of your music is only "good" by 2009/2010 standards (like some one mentioned in an earlier post, good point by the way) then you better get use to poor sales because rap music/production in 2009/2010 compared to the quality we've heard in the past is way below average by comparison. Just my opinion...
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ice will flop and thats that, nobody is check for these old ass nigaz no more
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ice will flop and thats that, nobody is check for these old ass nigaz no more
Ice Cube is independent and will sell at least 100,000 copies in total = that's not a flop for an independent cat, actually very successful and LOTS of profit = especially when he'll actually be making the majority $$ off his own record instead of another label exec or whoever.
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most rappers don't make money off of album sales anyway, they pull money through touring
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most rappers don't make money off of album sales anyway, they pull money through touring
that too
3K copies sold or not, this album release will land Kurupt more shows
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most rappers don't make money off of album sales anyway, they pull money through touring
that too
3K copies sold or not, this album release will land Kurupt more shows
and probably a video criticizing his fans
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Thats why snoop don't sign these guys and put them out. Its sad to realize the reality. Hey I love Dogg Food and got nothing but love for kurupt...but this is the reality.
Actually i think the next Dogg Pound album is comin out on Priority Records, that means Snoop Dogg did sign them.
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Thats why snoop don't sign these guys and put them out. Its sad to realize the reality. Hey I love Dogg Food and got nothing but love for kurupt...but this is the reality.
Actually i think the next Dogg Pound album is comin out on Priority Records, that means Snoop Dogg did sign them.
And got them their deal on Death Row and co signed the Koch deal for Cali Iz Active
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2900 copies sold is nowhere close to a 20 grand profit.Half the money you spend on a cd goes to the retail company,then you have the distribution company taking their share,then anyone who worked on the album.Come on man,20 grand is not realistic at all.
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rappers like kurupt and daz should be very thankful that snoop is using them on his tours, almost every time he go touring he is using them. Thats good.
I am pretty sure kurupt is just realeasing new music is just becouse he loves it nothing more.
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can anybody tell me where's the sense in 5 pages argue on how much Kurupt earned/lost money? How about listening to the music guys? Are you really that curious? Is that really so important to you? WTF? I give a shit if he earned 1 dollar or lost 100 dollars. it's not my business. i don't ask my friends how much they earn. and some of you act like you need to know how much money man got before you decide to hang out with him... so sad
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ice will flop and thats that, nobody is check for these old ass nigaz no more
Nobodys buying the new rappers shit . period
the old rappers are still making the best shit .
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Im still bumpin the shit out of the album. Album of the year for me.
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ice will flop and thats that, nobody is check for these old ass nigaz no more
Nobodys buying the new rappers shit . period
the old rappers are still making the best shit .
tha fuck u talkin bout ...
lemme correct dat the GOOD OLD RAPPERS ARE STILL SELLING
new rappers are movin units too check the soundscan b.o.b lupe kid cudi all em cats new
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can anybody tell me where's the sense in 5 pages argue on how much Kurupt earned/lost money? How about listening to the music guys? Are you really that curious? Is that really so important to you? WTF? I give a shit if he earned 1 dollar or lost 100 dollars. it's not my business. i don't ask my friends how much they earn. and some of you act like you need to know how much money man got before you decide to hang out with him... so sad
lol u know y rap fans curious bout dat shit? cuz rappers always talkin bout they flossin big time and shit got chains and big ass house, tippin hoz .. make u wanna check wut they really got..
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OLD ASS RAPPERS NEED TO QUIT TRYNA DO SUM NEW SHIT .. U OLD DO WUT U DO THE BEST.... PPL WANT DAT SHIT MO THAN U TRYNA PULL DRAKE, T PAIN CATCHY ASS HOOK SHIT..
TO KURUPT MAKE DAT WEST COAST G SHIT ,,DAT FREDWRECK BATTLE CAT SHIT .. DONT TRYNA MAKE SHIT LIKE IM BURNT ERRBODY SAY IM BURNT BULLSHIT, I KNOW U WANNA DO SUM NEW SHIT BUT DAMN.. AND FUCK REASON WHY I DIDNT BUY THIS STREET LIGHTS IS
U GOT FUCKIN DJ DRAMA ON THE LAST SONG MEANING YO LAZY ASS TOOK DAT SHIT OUTTA MIXTPAE AND JUST LOWERED DJ DRAMA VOICE TO SAVE $$$
N Y THE FUCK U USING DAT J BLACK OR BLACK J DUDE HE A SNOOPS MIXTAPE HOOK DUDE .... I THOUGHT THIS WAS AN ALBUM ,,GET LATOYA WILLIAMS OR SUMSHIT
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can anybody tell me where's the sense in 5 pages argue on how much Kurupt earned/lost money? How about listening to the music guys? Are you really that curious? Is that really so important to you? WTF? I give a shit if he earned 1 dollar or lost 100 dollars. it's not my business. i don't ask my friends how much they earn. and some of you act like you need to know how much money man got before you decide to hang out with him... so sad
i just thought it was funny how this kid is so wrong but acts like he knows everything. and i mean it does matter as far as him making more cds
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2900 copies sold is nowhere close to a 20 grand profit.Half the money you spend on a cd goes to the retail company,then you have the distribution company taking their share,then anyone who worked on the album.Come on man,20 grand is not realistic at all.
Once again, I never said KURUPT himself made that much money off these sales...I said the CD probably profited that much..and of course everyone takes their share.
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I'm kind of surprised that Kurupt sold that well since he's not well known outside small circles like Dubcc and what other west coast rap orientated boards there are.
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can anybody tell me where's the sense in 5 pages argue on how much Kurupt earned/lost money? How about listening to the music guys? Are you really that curious? Is that really so important to you? WTF? I give a shit if he earned 1 dollar or lost 100 dollars. it's not my business. i don't ask my friends how much they earn. and some of you act like you need to know how much money man got before you decide to hang out with him... so sad
Welcome to the dubcc lol
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Thats what no Radio play and no promo gets you!!!!!! ???
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I'm kind of surprised that Kurupt sold that well since he's not well known outside small circles like Dubcc and what other west coast rap orientated boards there are.
Are you serious for real?
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I'm kind of surprised that Kurupt sold that well since he's not well known outside small circles like Dubcc and what other west coast rap orientated boards there are.
Are you serious for real?
Obviously there aren't many checking for his music except his core fans. I quit reading this board in last November and returned back in last April and I was surprised by the amount of new west coast rap releases that I was completely unaware of. These kind of rap boards are the only promo for most of the UG rappers.
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I love what dubcc has become over the years..it seems like a lot of yall can't wait 4 someone 2 fail..Kurupt = Legend fuck what goin through!
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Just got Streetlights ;D
an got the new devin the dude Suite #420 8) 8)
both are bangin!
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Anyone got an update on his streetlights album sales thus far? Not that it matters I was jus kinda curious if anybody knew.
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Those are pretty sad numbers.
Numbers matter, numbers = money.........and they aren't making jack.
Thats what no Radio play and no promo gets you!!!!!!
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Gucci Mane has a lot of hype surrounding him..
Kurupt has hype around him in 1992.
I don't need to tell you how long ago that was.
exacly
20 fucking years ago
and Kurupt in 09 was huge... that was 10 years ago
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Gucci Mane has a lot of hype surrounding him..
Kurupt has hype around him in 1992.
I don't need to tell you how long ago that was.
exacly
20 fucking years ago
and Kurupt in 09 was huge... that was 10 years ago
.. huh ??? wasn't 09 last year?